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WHEREAS, Mendota Homes, in Zoning File No. 97-207, made application to the Saint
Paul Plauniug Commission for a special condition use permit under the provisions of Saint Paul
Legislative Code Section 60.413(13) and 64300(d) for the purpose of constnxcting a 10 unit
cluster development on undeveloped property located on Lexington Pazkway south of St. Clair,
and legally described as and;
WHEREAS, the Zoning Committee of the Plamiing Commission on October 30, 1997,
and on November 13, 1997, after having provided nofice to afFected property owners, held public
hearings at which all persons present were given an opportunity to be heard and submitted it
recommendafion to the commission. The commission, by its Resolution No.97-78, adopted on
November 21, 1997, decided to grant the applica6on based upon the following findings and
conclusions:
1. The applicant has a purchase agreement for the property proposed for development. Ten
dwelling units are proposed: 3 buildings of two units, 1 building of three units, and 1
building of one unit. Access to the homes and gazages is proposed to be entirely from
Lexington Parkway via a private street. There is no alley access.
2. Chapter 60.413(13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments subject to the
following conditions:
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There shall be a minimum of two (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units are planned.
The units shall be attached, common wall, single family, with no unit intruding on
the vertical airspace of any other unit.
This condition is partially met. Nine of the units are attached, common wall,
single-family, with no unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit.
One unit is a single-family home and this condition (b) is modified for that home
in finding 4, below.
c. The parcel shall meet the lot area required per unit in the zoning dish-ict.
This condition can be met. The lot azea, including half of the alley is 107,380.5
square feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit, exceeding the 5,000
squaze feet per unit requirement.
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The parcel shall have a minimum frontage of eighty (80) feet on an improved
street.
This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet of frontage on Le�ngton
pazkway.
The structure shall conform to the schedule of regulations for height, lot
coverage, setbacks and parking.
This condifion is met. As proposed, the development meets the requirements for
height, lot coverage and pazking prescribed by the zoning district. Eight visitor
parldng spaces will be provided in addition to a double garage for each unit.
Zoning enforcement has deternuned the front yazd to be on Lexington, and the
rear yazd to be the farthest northwest corner of the pazcel. The plan appears to
meet all setback requirements.
The design shall be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood.
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood
which consists of a mixture of 1, 1-1/2, and 2 story shuctures with gabled and
hipped roofs. Materials used in the surrounding neighborhood include stucco,
clapboazd, metal siding, and composite shingles. Windows are a mixture of
double hung and fixed "picture" windows.
The proposed units are 1 and 2 stories in height with intersecting gable roofs.
(See drawings attached.) The applicant has not specified which units will be one
or two stories, but rather proposes that decision be made with the potential buyer.
Exterior material is proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, while larger
than the typical home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design, is broken
up by a central gabled bay. Porches and double hung windows provide other
design elements similar to houses in the azea.
Individual lots, buildings, sireet and parking areas shall be designed and situated
to minimize alteration of the natural features and topography.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for the site.
The grading plan also includes construction of a storm water pond near
Le�ngton. However, the overall topography of the site, including the slope into
the railroad corridor, would not be disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the
slope azea of the site would remain.
h. Applications for cluster deveZopment shall include site plans, including
landscaping and elevations and other fnformation the planning commission may
request.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan, landscape plan, and
building elevations along with a written descripfion detailing the specifics of the
development.
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2 3. Section 64300(d) of the zoning code requires that before the plauning coxnxnission may
3 grant approval of a principal use subject to special conditions, the commission shall find
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The extent, Zocation and intensity of the use wi11 be in substantial compliance with
the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan and any applicable subarea pZans which were
approved by the city council.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to flus matter. There
aze no applicable small area plans for this azea.
The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990's recotnmends "expansion of housing
opportunities for middle and higher income households where this mazket is or
can be addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this proposal will be priced at
$139,900 - $200,000, addressing middle income populations.
The use will provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic congestion in
the public streets.
A private street will provide access to the units and a11ow emergency vehicle
traffic and visitor pazking. The Fire Deparhnent has determined this access to be
sufficient for emergency access.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to Lexington raising
concerns about traffic cutting through the alley to avoid the intersection at St.
Clair and Lexington. The current proposal does not ea�tend the existing alley and
does not connect the alley to the private street, eluninating the ability far traffic to
cut through.
The use will not be detrimental to the existing character of development in the
immediate neighborhood or endanger the public health, safety and general
welfare.
This condition is met. The nuxnber of new dwelling units can be accommodated
by exisring facilities and services provided by the city. The private street will
accommodate emergency vehicles and all requirements for water, sewer and storm
water have been met.
The use will note impede the normal and orderly development and improvement
of the surrounding property for uses permitted in the district.
This condition is met. The surrounding property is fully developed. The new
housing will serve as a buffer between the single family homes on St. Clair and
Lexington and the raikoad - Ayd Mill Road corridor.
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The use shall, in all other respects, conform to the applicable regulations of the
district in which it is Zocated.
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7 4. Section 64300( fl of the zoning code states: "The planning commission, after public
8 hearing, may modify any or all special conditions, when strict application of such speeial
9 conditions would unreasonably limit or prevent otherwise lawful use of a piece of
10 property or an e�sting structure and would result in exceptional undue hardship to the
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intent and purpose of such special condifion and is consistent with health, morals and
general welfaze of the community and is consistent with reasonable enjoyment of
adjacent property."
The building fronting on Lexington Pazkway is a stand alone single-family home that
does not meet the common wall condition of (c) above and is hereby modified. Siting a
single-fanuly home rather than a two-fanvly home is more in keeping with the single-
family homes adjoining and to the north along Lexington Parkway. Including the single
family home in the cluster development adds the hazdship of sepazate description and
easements for a single-family lot.
WHEREAS, pursuant to the provisions of Saint Paul Legislarive Code § 64.206, Pat
Byrne, duly filed with the City Clerk an appeal from the determination made by the plauning
commission, requesting that a hearing be held before the City Council for the purpose of
considering the actions taken by the said commission; and
WHEREAS, acting pursuant to § 64.206 through § 64.208, and upon norice to affected
parties a public heazing was duly conducted by the City Council on January�; 1998, where all
interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and �Y
WIIEREAS, the Council, hauing heazd the statements made, and having considered the
application, the report of staff, the record, minutes and resolution of the zoning committee and of
the planning commission, does hereby;
RESOLVE, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul does hereby reverse the decision of
the planning commission in this matter, based on the following findings of the Council:
The Council finds that the planning commission erred with respect to fmding 2( fl and
2(b) in that: (1) the proposed design is not compatible with the surrounding neighborhood as the
exterior design characteristics of the units aze out of character with the neighborhood; and (2) the
overall design of the proposal is more like a suburban Woodbury styled development which is
not in keeping with the surrounding neighborhood. The Council fiu•ther finds with respect to
finding 3(b) that the ingress and egress to Lexington Avenue does not minimize traffic
congestion in the public street and, in fact, adds to traffic congestion; and
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2 BE IT FURTAER RESOLVED, that the appeal of Pat Byrne be and is hereby granted;
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5 BE TT FINALLY RESOLVED, that the City Clerk shall mail a copy of this resolufion
6 to Pat Byrne, the Zoning Administrator and the Planning Commission.
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for property located at Lexington Parkway and St. Clair.
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INFORMAiION(EXPWM
OFFICE OF TE� CITY ATTORNEY ����� �
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Co7emme, Mayar
Civi[ Division
400 City H¢!L
IS West KelZogg Blvd
Saint Paul, Mi�n+esota 55702
Telephone: 612 266-87Z0
Facsimile: 612 298-5619
Apri121, 1998
Nancy Anderson
Council Secretary
31Q City Hall
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Appeal by Pat Byrne
Zoning File No. 97-207
January 27, 1998
Dear Ms. Anderson:
Attached please fmd a s3gned resolution memorializing the decision of the Saint Paul City
Council in the above-entitled matter. Would you please place this matter on the Council Consent
Agenda at your earliest convenience.
If you haue any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
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Peter W. VJarner
Assistant City Attorney
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Enclosure
DEPARTMENT OF PLFvNYING
& ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
crrY oF sanvr Pavz.
Norm Calemarz, Mayor
December 8, 1997
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Dear Ms. Anderson:
Divirion of P(mviing
25 A'estFau�th Street
Saint Pau1, MNSSIO2
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Telephone: 6I2-266-6565
Facsimi[e: 612-228-3374
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Monday, December
22, 1997 for the following appeal of a Planning Commission decision approving a special condition use
permit:
Appellant: PAT BY12NE
File Number: #97-207
Purpose: Appeal a Planning Commission decision approving a special condition use permit to
allow cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units. (Applicant: Mendota Homes)
Address: x� Lexington Parkway South (southwest quadreant of Lexington and St. Clair)
Legal Description of Property: See Survey in File
Previous Action:
Planning Commission Action: Approval with conditions; vote: 16-1, November 21, 1997
Zoning Committee Recommendation: Approval with conditions; vote: 4-0, November 13, 1997
My understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda for the December 1�,
1997 City Council meeting and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger.
Please call me at 266-6580 if you have any questions.
Sincere
Beth Bartz
City Planner
cc: File #97-207
Mike Kraemer
Donna Sanders
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The Satnt Paul �1ty Counctf wi11 mnduct a public hearing on Monday, December 22,
1997 at 4:39 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, Third Floot. � City Hall-Court Hous� W
consider ihe appeat of Pat Byme, to a dectsion of ihe Planning Commission approving a
spectal conditlon use pernvt to allow ciuster development with ten dweliing nnits
(applicant: Menddta Hoates) at ao�c Ix�dngYOn Parkway South [southwest quadrant of
Lerrtc�gton and St. Clair Avenues). - � � -
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DEPARTMENT OF PT.ANNING
& ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CTTY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Co[eman, Mayor
Dec i2-
Prfaq 2i, 1997
Ms. Nancy Anderson
Secretary to the City Council
Room 310 CiTy Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Division af PlanrrLtg
25 West Fowth Street
SaintPaul, MN55102
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Te[epharze: 6I &26Cr6565
Facsimile: 612-228-33I4
RE: Zoning File #97-207: Appellant: PAT BYRNE
City Council Hearing: December 22, 1997 430 p.m. City Council Chambers
PURPOSE: Appeal a planning commission decision approving a special condition use permit to allow a
cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units on property located at the southwest quadrant of
Lexington Pazkway South and St. Clair Ave.
PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION: APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, 16-1
ZONRVG COMNIITTEE RECOn�IIV1ENDATION: APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, 4-0
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: APPROVAL
SUPPORT: One person spoke. Two letters received in support.
OPPOSITTON: Six persons spoke. Eight letters were received in opposition. The Summit Hill
Association voted to oppose the special condition use permit.
Dear Ms. Anderson:
PAT BI'RNE has appealed the decision of the Saint Paul Planning Commission to approve a special
condition use permit to allow a cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units on properry located at
the southwest quadrant of Lexington Parkway South and St. Clair Avenue. The Zoning Committee of
the Saint Paul Planning Commission held a public hearing on the request on October 30, 1997 and
November 13, 1997. The applicant addressed the committee on both occassions. At the close of the
public hearing on November 13 the committee voted 4-0 to recommend approval of the permit with
conditions. The Planning Commission upheld the Zoning Committee's recommendation for approval on
a 16-1 vote on November 21, 1997.
This appeal is scheduled to be heard by the City Counci] on December 22, 1997. Please notify me if any
member of the CiTy Council wishes to have slides of the site presented at the public hearing.
Sincerely,
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Ken Ford
Planning Administrator
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APPLICATtON FOR APPEAL
Department ojPlanning and Economic Development
Zoning Section
II00 Cit}� Hall Annex
15 West Fourth Street
Sainr Paul, Mh' S5102
266-6589
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TYPE OF APPEAL: Application is hereby made for an appeal to the:
i� Soard of Zoning Appeals City Council
under the prov'tsions of Chapter 64, Section 2�? Paragraph � of the Zoning Code, to
appeai a decision made by the �L�`�J�Ji �C_ C�runi iSI� �
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(date o decis on)
GROUNDS FOR APPEAL: Explain why you feel there has been an error in any requirement,
permit, decision or refusal made by an administrative o�cia{, or an error in fact, procedure or
finding made by the Board of Zoning Appeals or the Planning Commission.
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Attachment to
Application For Appeal
Appellant Patrick Byrne
243 S. Lexington Parkway
St. Paul, Minn 55105 266-6171
Property Mendota Homes, File 97-207
Location Southwest quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair
Lot 19 Rueths Addition
This is an appeai to the City Council of a decision made by the Planning Commission
on Friday, November2lst, 1997, #97-207
Grounds for Appeal:
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED and Public Works made errors in facts, procedures and findings
in assessing the safety issues involved with traffic, parking, and storm water
management. There is sufficient unrefuted public testimony to indicated different from
their findings.
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED made errors in facts, procedures and findings in assessing the
compatibility of the project with the surrounding neighborhood. There is sufficient
unrefuted public testimony to indicated different from their findings.
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED and Pubiic Works made errors in facts, procedures and findings
in assessing whether or not the project complied with ali provisions of granting a
special use permit for a"cluster development".
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City Agent:
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city of saint paul
pianning commission resolution
file number 97-�$
�te November 21, 1997 _
WHEREAS, MENDOTA HOMES, file #'t 97-207, has applied for a Special Condition Use under
the provisions of Section 60.413 (li) and 64300 (d) of the Saint Paul Legislative Code for the
purpose of constructing a 10 unit cluster development on undeveloped property located on
Lexington Parkway south of St. Clair, as legally described in the file; and
WHEREAS, the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission on 10l30l97 and i ll13l97 held
public heazings at which all persons present were given an opportunity to be heard pursuant to
said application in accordance with the requirements of Section 64.300 of the Saint Paul
Legislative Code; and
WHEREAS, Saint Paul Planning Commission, based on the evidence presented to its Zoning
Committee at the public hearing as substantially reflected in the minutes, made the following
findings of fact:
The applicant has a purchase a�reement for the property proposed for development. Ten
dwelling units are proposed: 3 buildings of two units, 1 building of three units, and 1
building of one unit. Access to the homes and garages is proposed to be entirely from
Lexington Parkway via a private street. There is no vehicular access from the alley to the
site.
2. Chapter 60.413 (13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments subject to the
following conditions:
a. There shall be a minimum of hvo (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units aze planned.
b. Tlze units shall be attnche�t, common wall, single family, with no unit iniruding on the
vertica! airspace of any other unit.
This condition is partially met. Nine of the units are attached, common wall,
single- family, with no unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit. One unit
is a single-family home and this condition (b) is modified for that home in finding 4,
below.
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c. TJze parcel slzall meet t/te lot area required per ur:it in tJ:e zoning rlistrict.
This condition can be met. The lot azea, including half of the alley is 107,380.5 square
feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit, exceedin� the 5000 square feet per unit
requirement.
d. T/ze parcel s/zallltave a mi�aitsutm frontage of eigl:ty (80) feet o�r an improved street.
This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet of frontage on Lexington Parkway.
e. The structure shall confortn to the schedtde of regulatio�:s for I:ei;kt, !ot coverage,
setbacks and parking.
This condition is met. As proposed, the development meets the requirements for height,
lot coverage and parking prescribed by the zoning district. Eight visitor parking spaces
will be provided in addition to a double garage for each unit. Zonin� enforcement has
determined the front yard to be on Lexington, and the rear yard to be the farthest
northwest corner of the parcel. The pian appears to meet all setback requirements.
f. TI:e design skall be compatible witle tlee srerrour:ding neigltborltood
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood which
consists of a mixture of I, 1-1/2, and 2 story structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
Materials used in the surrounding neighborhood include stucco, clapboard, metal siding,
and composite shingles. Windows are a mixrizre of double hung and fixed "picture"
windows.
The proposed units aze 1 to 2 stories in height with intersecting gable roofs. (See
drawings attached.) The applicant has not specified which units will be one or two
stories, but rather proposes that decision be made with the potential buyer. Exterior
material is proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, while larger than the typical
home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design, is broken up by a central gabled
bay. Porches and double hung windows provide other design elements similaz to houses
in the area.
g. Individua! lots, bui[dings, street and parking areas shall be designed and situated to
minimize alteration ofthe natnrt�7features anrl topograplzy.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for the site. The
grading plan also includes construction of a storm water pond near Lexington. However,
the overall topography of the site, including the slope into the railroad corridor, wouid not
be disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the slope azea of the site would remain.
h. Applicafons for c[uster clevelopment shall include site plans, including Inndscaping
and elevations and other informtztion t{ze planning commission may reqzcest.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan, landscape plan, and building
elevations along with a written description detailing the specifics of the development.
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3. Section 64300 (d) of the zoning code requires that before the planning commission may
grant approval of a principal use subject to special conditions, the commission shall find
that:
a. Tlze extetzt, Zocatiorz atttl intetzsity of tF:e use tvi11 be in substaritial compliarxce witk the
Saint Pau! Comprelzensive Plan and any applicable si[barea plans w{zicJz were
approved by t/te city cot�ncil.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to this matter. There are no
applicable small area plans for this area.
The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990s recommends "expansion of housing
opportunities for middle and higher income households where this market is or can be
addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this proposal will be priced at $139,400 -
$200,000, addressing middle income populations.
b. Tlte use wilt provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic congestion in the
pttblic streets.
A private street will provide access to the units and allow emergency vehicle traffic and
visitor parking. The Fire Department has determined this access to be sufficient for
emergency access.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to Lexington raising concerns
about traffic cuttin� through the alley to avoid the intersection at St. Clair and Lexington.
The current proposal does not extend the existing alley and does not connect the alley to
the private street, eliminating the ability for traffic to cut through.
c. The use wi![ not be detrimental to t/te existing cJiaracter of development in the
immediafe neighbor/:ood or endanger t1:e public healt/i, safety and genera[ wetfare.
This condition is met. The number of new dwelling units can be accommodated by
existing facilities and services provided by the city. The private street will accominodate
emergency vehicles and all requirements for water, sewer and storm water have been met.
d Tlze use will not impede the norn:al an�l orderly development and improvement of the
surrounding property for uses permitted in the district
This condition is met. The surrounding property is fuliy developed. The new housing
will serve as a buffer between the single family homes on St. Clair and Lexinb on and the
railroad - Ayd Mill Road corridor.
e. The use shall, in all otJzer respects, conform to t1:e applicab[e regulatians of t)te district
in which it is located
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(4) Section 64300 (t� of the zoning code states: "The plannin� commission, after public
hearing, may modify any or all special conditions, when strict application of such special
conditions would unreasonably limit or prevent otherwise lawful use of a piece of property
or an existing structure and would result in exceptional undue hardship to the owner of such
proper[y or structure; provided, that such modification will not impair the intent and purpose
of such special condition and is consistent with health, morals and general �n�elfare of the
community and is consistent with reasonable enjoyment of adjacent properiy °'
The building fronting on Lexington Parkway is a stand alone single-family home that does
not meet the common wall condition of (2) c, above, and is hereby modified. Siting a single-
family home rather than a two-family home is more in keeping with the singie-family homes
adjoining and to the north along Lexington Parkway. Including the single family home in
the cluster development avoids the hardship of separate description and easements for a
singie-family lot.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Saint Paul Planning Commission, that under
the authoriTy of the City's Legislative Code, the application for a Special Condition Use to allow
a 10 unit cluster development on the undeveloped pzoperty located on Lexington Parkway south
of St. Clair is hereby approved, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the cluster development be constructed in conformance with the plan dated 11/13/97,
a part of the file;
2. That there be provided a physical barrier to prevent vehiculaz access from the alley to the
site, as determined by site plan review staff;
3. That the area between the alley and the cluster development be landscaped to buffer
nearby residences, as determined by site plan review staff;
4. That the applicant grant an easement of sufficient size that allows emergency and service
vehicles to cross the corner where the rivo aileys meet;
5. That a no left turn sign be posted by the applicant, prohibiting left turns onto Lexington
Park�vay northbound.
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Saint Paul Plannina Commission
City Hall Conference Center
15 Kellogg Boulevard West
A meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Saint Paul was held Friday, November 21, 1997, at
830 a.m. in the Conference Center of City Hall.
Commissioners Mmes. Duarte, Engh, Faricy, Geisser, Nordin, Treichel, and Wenct, and Messrs.
Present: Chavez,. Field Jr., Gordon, Kong, Kramer, Mazdell, Nowlin, Sharpe, Vaught and
Wilson
Commissioners Ms. *Maddox and Messrs. *Johnson and *McDonell
Absent:
*Excused
Also Present: Ken Ford, Planning Administrator; Jean Birkholz, Beth Bartz, Kady Dadlez, Nancy
Frick, Tom Harren, Nancy Homans, Patricia James, Roger Ryan, and Lucy
Thompson, Department of Planning and Economic Development staff.
T. Approval of Minutes of November 7, 1997
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved fo approve the minutes of November 7, 1997;
Commissioner Gordon seconded the moiion which carried unanimously on a voice vote.
II. Chair's Announcements
First Vice Chair Goxdon officiated the meeting in Chair McDonell's absence.
First Vice Chair Gordon announced that Commissioner Maddox' mother passed away; her
funeral was yesterday.
III. Planning Administrator's Announcements
Mr. Ford announced that on Wednesday, November 19, the City Council passed a resolution
requesting that the Planning Commission advise the City Council within 120 days of its
intentions with respect to updating the Fire and Medical Emergency Services Chapter of the
Comprehensive Plan. Staff will be working on recommendations to bring to the Commission.
N. Zoning Committee
#97-207 Mendota Homes - Special condition use permit to allow a 10-unit cluster development
at the southwest quadrant of Lexina on and St. Clair. Beth Bartz, Southwest Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved approval of the requested special condition use permit
to allow a 1 D-unit cluster development at the southwest quadrant of Lerington and St Clair
subjeet to conditions:
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I. ThaL the cluster development be constructed in conformance with ihe plan dafed
II/13/97, a part of the ftle;
2. That ikere be provided a plrysical barrier to prevent vehicutar access from the atley to
the site, ar determined by tlte site plan review staff,•
3. That the area between the alley and the cluster development be landreaped to buffer
nearby residences, as determined by the site plan review staff,•
4. That the applicant grant an easement of sufficient size that allows emergency and
service ve/:icles to eross tlze corner where the two aZleys meet;
5. That a no left turn sign to posted by the applicant, prolzibiting left turns onto
Lexington Parkway northbourxd.
Commissioner Field informed the Commission that the Zoning and Land Use Committee of the
Summit Hill Association and the District 16 Planning Council recommended denial of this
request, but it was based on an eazlier proposal than the one viewed last Thursday.
There was numerous testimony in opposition to the project presented at the Zoning Committee
meeting. The developer and the neighborhood met several times to try to compromise.
Commissioner Nordin asked to hear more about the discussion that took place at the Zoning
Committee meeting. She said that she feels this is a good use of land and would like to vote in
favor of it, but the amount of pavement on the site disturbs her as well as no use of the alley
which would eliminate three driveways and a few turn arounds.
Commissioner Vaught noted that he had the same concerns as well as a safety concem going into
the Zoning Committee meeting. He assured Commissioners that what they see before them
represents a compromise after listening to all of the various positions. Even though this plan is
not particularly perfect, the Committee felt that it could get the job done.
First Vice Chair Gordon asked if the Department of Public Works took a position on this plan?
Commissioner Vaught replied that they spoke about the issues, but were not particularly helpful.
Commissioner Nordin stated that she could not vote in favor of this case. She believes that the
Commission should stand their ground more firmly. Although she said she thinks iYs a
wonderful use of land, no alley access is not a good use.
Commissioner Field said that he also sits on the Housing Task Force with Commissioner Nordin
and he understands her concems and support of the project. However, he feels that this issue is
one that may have to be dealt with more often in the future. In filling up the City's green space
with housing, there's a need to be sensitive to the surrounding neighbors, and compromises will
have to be made.
Commissioner Nordin commented that this neighborhood knew that it was always a possibility
that this open land would be developed. This plan is inconsistent with any existing planning
within the City. She feels that this is not a legitimate compromise to be made for housing.
Commissioner Vaught noted that at the Zoning Committee meeting, Susan Kimberly made the
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comment that in looking to try to meet the needs for new housing in this City, compromises will
have to be made.
Commissioner Nordin stated that she understands why the road and the cul-de-sac are there
because taking tfiat out would tum the alley into a street. She said she is having a hard time
accepting is the four driveways off of it that add all the pavement and all the little turn arounds
you need to get back to that driveway. She stated that those four driveways can be eliminated
with just the alley access; that would leave green space between the houses.
Commissioner Field repeated that the result here is a compromise that is trying to accommodate
all of the conflicting interests of the parties.
The motion on the floor to approve fhe reques[ed special condition use permit to allow a IO-
unit cluster development at the southwest quadrant ofLe.rington and St. Clair carried on a
vote of I6 to I(Nordi�r).
#97-258 US West Communications - Special condition use permit to allow a 90' cellular
telephone antenna at 426 Fairview Avenue North. Nancy Homans, Northwest Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved approval of the requested special condition use persnit
to allow a 90' cellular telephone anlenna at 426 Fairview Avenue Nortl:.
Commissioner Field noted that the Merriam Park Community Council voted to not support the
special condition use permit.
Commissioner Field referred to a memo dated November 20, 1997, which states that the
switching gear will be housed in structures near the antenna. This makes it a different situation
than we the Zoning Committee understood at the time of the vote. It is not viewed as germane to
the actual height of the antenna itself. In addition, there were documents provided in connection
with the pole itself that showed certain landscaping around the antenna and other structures
related to this. There was some concern expressed as to whether that landscaping would be there
in view of the change.
MOTION: Commissdoner Yaught moved to amend the original motion to include a site plan
review; the motion was seconded by Commissioner Wencl which carried unanimously on a
voice vote.
The amended motion on the floor to approve the requested special condition use permit to
allow a 90' cellular telephone antenna af 426 Fairview Avenue North carried unanimously on
a voice vote.
#97-259 US West Communications - Specia] condition use permit to altow a 90' cellular
telephone antenna at 1669 Arcade Street. Patricia James, Northeast Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Fie1d moved approval of the requested special condition use permit
fo allow a 90' celiula� telephone anienna ai I669 Arcade Street, subject to appropriate
screening approved by site plan review staff, carried unanimously on a voice vote.
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MINUTES OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE
CITY COUNCTI, CHAMBERS, SAZNT PAUL, MINNESOTA OI3 NOVEMBER 13, 1997
PRESENT: Mmes. Faricy and Wencl; Messrs. Field, Kramer and Vaught of the
Zoning Committee; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mmes. Bartz,
Frick, Homans, James and Sanders and Mr. Ryan of PED.
ASSENT: Chavez
Gordon, excused
Time: 4:20 - 5:45 p.m.
The meeting was chaired by Litton Field, Chairperson.
MENDOTA HOMES• southwest quadrant of Lexington and St C1aiY• #97-207• Snecial
Condition Use Permit: To allow a 10 unit cluster development.
Beth Bartz, PED, Southwest Quadrant, reviewed that this matter was heard on
Oc[ober 30 and laid over for two weeks to this meeting to allow a Department
of Public Works representative to attend this meeting to respond to concerns.
Tom Kuhfeld from Public Works was present at the meeting to respond to
questions. Ms. Bartz reported that the applicant and representatives of the
neighborhood aonvened and discussed the proposal during the interim. The
neighborhood presented the applicant with two options: A� To have the units
exclusively use the private drive and not be accessed via the alley; or B) If
the units were to be accessed from the alley, that the applicant agree to
improve and maintain the alley in perpetuity. There were also additional
conditions which were outlined in the November 13 letter from David Schultz
who represented the neighbors, as well as correspondence and a revised site
plan from the applicant. The revised site plan is not the applicant's
preferred site plan, however they will do it if they need to. These items
were distributed at the meeting and are included in the case file.
Commissioner Vaught asked for confirmation that the Mathern reaction to
Options A& B was the proposal which includes on the western most part of the
site, a 3-unit building as opposed to a 2-unit building, and includes a single
unit building on the Lexington end of the site and still includes 10 units.
Ms. Bartz responded that was the Mathern response to one of the neighbors'
requests that there only be a single unit on Lexington Avenue, as opposed to�a
duplex. The neighborhood was requesting then, that the total number of units
included in the development be reduced to 9 units, and Ms. Bartz reported the
Matherns' wish to keep the number of units at 10, and to accommodate that a
third unit was added to one of the buildings on the site.
Ms. Bartz noted that staff has had some concern with the proposed site plan
about the additional driveways and how the revised site plan cuts up the siCe.
Tom Beach, LIEP, site plan review, has reviewed the site and feels there is an
alternative to access to the site that would access all of the units off of
Lexington Parkway, but would e3iminate some of the need for a driveway.
Ms. Bartz distributed a copy o£ these comments.
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Tom Kuhfeld, Department of Public Works, was available to respond to
questions.
Commissioner Vaught reviewed concern with a proposal that provides ingress and
egress primary to all or some o£ the units, onto Lexington, has to do with the
topography of Lexington from St. Clair to Ayd Mill Road. He noted speed of
traffic in this location, and said that although there is a signal
intersection on St. C1air that as you cross St. C1air you can't see the
ingress/egress point. Noting concern over the amount o£ tra£Eic on Lexington
and the safety concerns of an additional access road, he asked Mr. Kuhfeld to
elaborate on the thinking of Public works as it related to the. possibility of
using alleys, which he noted is not unprecedented in the city.
Mr. Kuhfeld, Department of Public Works, noted that he had discussed this
matter with the trafEic engineer and recognized the valid concerns. However,
he noted that the situation is not that different from many other similar
situations in Saint Paul, i.e. driveways and unsignalled streets, e.g.,
Maryland Avenue. Mr. Kuhfeld reviwed that the Lexington Street frontage is
the only street frontage that the proposed property has, and said that until
and unless the City were to purchase the right-of-access that the applicant
could not be denied that access. Further, it was his position that where a
property has both alley and street frontage that they ought to have access to
both.
Commissioner Vaught noted that access to Lexington initially was not what the
applicants were seeking, but that their first choice was to primarily use the
alley for access, but were told by Public Works staff that was not possible.
FIe asked iE the proposed site were looked at as two parcels, it being
subdivided, with the front parcel including just the £rontage on Lexington
Pkwy., the back parcel wouldn't have any right or access to Lexington Pkwy.
Vaught contended that other than the fact that the alley doesn't have a name
and does not allow for address numbers off of the alley, he asked what
rationale the Department has beyond that the department has for not having the
primary access to the proposed site being the alley, as opposed to Lexington.
Mr. Kuhfeld responded that their primary responsibility is to fulfill the
Legislative Code that is given to them through ordinances of the City Council,
and he noted that one such ordinance requires an improved street, sewer and
water, or a house number is not issued. He said that a waiver may be granted
to those conditions, with the order of importance being: 1) the sanitary
sewer, 2) water and 3) street frontage. It was noted that the first two are
in place, and Kuhfeld said that the private road gives them something which is
comparable to street frontage and addresses would be given off of Lexington.
He said that in putting in the private road, they would be doing something
allowed in other areas and does not place an added burden on the City for
maintenance, i.e. plowing.
Commissioner Vaught asked that if the point of ingress/egress to the property
was not on Lexington Parkway, that the safety concerns that he raised above
would not be an issue. Mr. Kuhfeld responded that those concerns would be
eliminated, however it would affect the safety concerns in the alley and
direct its access to St. Clair.
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Commissioner Vaught reviewed that exceptions do exist to the general rule o£
not having an address off o£ an unimproved street or an alley to indicate that
- this situation is not unique. He asked what tests Public works uses in order
to a11ow such an exception, and name the alley and assign street numbers to
it.
Mr. Kuh£eld responded that the alley is not a platted street. He said he
believed the City could turn the proposed alley into aa of£icial street with
all o£ the rights and responsibilities, however he said that would be a
different matter than what is before the committee, and would require a
process o£ its own.
Commissioner vaught established from Mr. Kuhfeld that he was aware of places
where egress and ingress was off of an a11ey.
John Mathern, Mendota Homes, the applicant, spoke. Mr. Mathern reviewed that
since the October 30 meeting that time has been spent reviewing the site plan
and a meeting was held with the neighborhood. He reviewed that the
neighborhood presented them with Options A& B. He noted that concerns raised
at the meeting which the applicant tried to address, were that two units would
be built on Lexington Pkwy. next to a single-family one-level house, with
their primary concern thaC the proposal be reduced to one unit. Mr. Mathern
agreed that if he could do that by revising their plan that he would.
Secondly, there was concern of the alley, and that if the alley were improved
that Mendota Homes would plow and maintain the alley. Mr. Mathern said that
on behalf of Mendota Homes and the townhouse association that he could not
obligate the association to maintaining the entire alley and plowing the
entire alley with no cost to the neighborhood in perpetuity. Mendota Homes
did agree a£ter meeting with the neighborhood that they would put a proposal
together to see if the goals that they wished to accomplish could be achieved.
This being reducing the density on Lexingtan by allowing only one unit to be
built on Lexington; and could all ingress/egress be on Lexington and not share
the alley with the neighborhood at all. Mr. Mathern reviewed that a proposal
was put together quickly and given to the neighborhood, and after having had a
chance to review it themselves, Mendota Homes has decided that it is not a
proposal that Mendota would be in favor of because of the amount of asphalt in
both the cul-de-sac and the private driveways necessary. A copy of this site
plan was distributed.
Mr. Mathern reviewed that their preferred plan is the plan reviewed on October
30, with part of the traffic load onto the alley; part onto Lexington; and the
bringing of the cul-de-sac off of Lexington. He reviewed that they received
an additional alternative from Mr. Beach, LIEP, which shows coming in with
their road off of Lexington and then paralleling the alley with their own
private road. Their concerns with proposal were that the private road would
be right next to the public alley and the difficulty in keeping maintenance
separate. Mendota Homes could not support that proposal.
Mr. Mathern asked £or the committee to support the plan with 10 units, with
half of the traffic on Lexington and half the traffic on the alley. If
committee support of their preferred plan wasn't possible, Mendota Homes had
their engineer take Che plan that had all of the traffic on Lexington and
revise that to something with less parking and asphalt on it. This revision
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was circulated at the meeting. Mr. Mathern said that as a compromise they
would accept this proposal which loads all of the traf£ic onto Lexington, does
not share the a11ey with the neighbors, and also has one unit on Lexington and
keeps the proposal at 10 units. Mr. Mathern briefly reviewed the alternative
site plan proposal.
There was some discussion regarding other possible scenarios to configuration
which were ruled out as infeasible. Commissioner Vaught said he would be
hesitant to cut off access to residences that back onto an alley, to that
alley, as he didn�t see the sense, £airness or equity in it. The problem he
saw was to go so far as to establish the primary or only access to those
properties to be off of the alley, but given the alternative proposal by
Mendota Homes, he could accept that.
Commissioner Faricy said she felt that units 8, 9 and 10 as laid ou[ in the
preferred alternative was too congested and asked whether Mr. Mathern would
consider reducing the number of townhouses to 9 units. Mr. Mathern responded
that they are firm with the number 10, and noted that their original proposal
called for 14 or 15 units, and this represents a compromise on density. He
said it is the only 3-unit on site and said that with respect to townhouses it
is rather low in density as most townhouses go 4-6 units attached.
Commissioner Vaught said he believed the trade-off, that being one unit on
Lexington and the 3-Unit discussed above, was a superior plan, given the
relationship to the existing home on Lexington.
Mr. Mathern noted that by putting only one unit on Lexington it will likely
enable them to widen the roadway at its entrance/exit point.
Commissioner Vaught expressed concern that left turns both on to Lexington and
off of Lexington into the development, materially increases the safety hazard
that exists there, and asked if the applicant would be agreeable to
prohibiting that. Mr. Mathern responded that if restrictions were to be made
that he would prefer that they be limited to certain hours of the day of heavy
traffic.
Pat Byrne, 243 S. Lexington Pkwy., reviewed his prepared comments, a copy of
which are in the case file. Mr. Byrne addressed the most recent proposal with
Che one unit on Lexington Pkwy. He expressed concern that given the change in
the proposal at this meeting, that the community council and those present
with comments at the last meeting were being bypassed in the decisionmaking as
they have not seen the latest information.
Chair Field responded that Peter Warner, Assistant Attorney, advised that it
may be left to the discretion of the committee revisited on those issues, and
that notice was given. He said that frequently there are cases that during
tke course of discussion compromises may be reached.
Commissioner Vaught noted that upon layover at the October 30 meeting that it
was never the intent to go back to the Summit Hill Association, but suggestion
was made, and the opportunity provided to those most immediately a£fected to
take part in the process, and he said he suspected that those who could
participate were able to do that.
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Mr. Byrne asked £or the staff position on the pre£erred proposal of the
applicant. Ms. Bartz responded that there is no staft response to the new
proposal. She indicated that one piece o£ the preferred proposal is not in
compliance with the SCUP, with that being the single unit on Lexington. I£
the preferred proposal were considered for approval by the committee an added
condition would be necessary that that single unit on Lexington be split off
from the rest of the development, as a single, unattached unit is not allowed
as part of a cluster development, and there£ore any revised platting there
would need to be reviewed to ensure that there is an 80 foot frontage
maintained on Lexington Avenue for the rest o£ the development.
Commissioner Vaught asked whether the zoning code allows the committee to vary
that requirement. Mr. Warner responded that Eor the purposes of the SCUP
application that variances can also be taken into consideration. He noted
that section 64.300 subd. f(27 of the Legislative Code, indicates tkat the
planning commission may act as the board of zoning appeals and grant variances
for any regulations of the code related to permits or site plan approval;
which gives them the authority.
Chair Field said that putting that issue aside, and having seen the
applicant's revised proposed plan, whether staff noted any consistencies with
the original staff report that would be impacted by the revision. Ms. Bartz
said that the original stafE report conclusions stand, and that Public Works
stafE has provided input noting that it is not substantively different enough
to affect the sta£f recommendation.
Mr. Byrne spoke to finding 2(f), compatibility to the surrounding
neighborhood, and disagreed with staff and found the revised proposal to be
incompatible with the surrounding neighborhood. He also spoke to the issue
ingress and egress and reviewed that staff has not been able to find that
these are safe conditions and finds the access to Lexington to be unsafe.
Byrne opposed the revised proposal and requested Che committee deny the
request until the neighborhood had an opportunity to review the latest
proposal.
Commissioner Vaught ascertained £rom Mr. Byrne that given a choice oE two
versus one units located on Lexington, that he preferred one unit on
Lexington.
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David Schultz, 1120 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Mr. Schultz
reviewed that the neighborhood did attempt to arrive at a compromise and came
up with two options, Options A and S. Ae reviewed that a neighborhood meeting
did take place with the developer and that they did work out what appeared to
be a compromise, however uneasy, as it wasn't acceptable to a11. Aowever, Mr.
Mathern was to later inform them that he couldn't agree to it. Mr. Schultz
said the "preferred alternative" was new to him and he addressed it. Mr.
Schultz' concerns were addressed in his November 13 letter that was
distributed, which he reviewed, and a copy of which is in the case file.
Concerns included a desire for a good bufEer of trees between the development
and the alley. Concern remains that there be sufficient alley easement for
emergency vehicles and for neighborhood parking. Mr. Schultz noted that the
neighbors who did agree to the compromise liked the proposal of where the
triplex was located on the proposal that was presented to them, and liked the
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idea that it be located further away from other residential structures. One
of the neighbors asked that it be written into the association bylaws that
residents and visitors to Lexington Commons wouldn't use the alley.
In looking at the current proposal, Mr. Schultz said he could not speak £or
the neighbors due to the changes. He expressed concern that the preferred
proposal pushes the triplex closer to the existing homes on the St. Clair
side. He noted that the concerns addressed towards the proposal they
considered over the weekend, the adequate buffer, questions about easements
Eor safety vehicles, etc, still pertain. Mr. Schultz agreed with the single
unit on Lexington and found it to be an improvement.
Mr. Schultz spoke of concern on where the triplex units would be located. Ae
said that when the neighUors compromised that they originally wanted to go for
four double units and a single unit on Lexington. He asked that the triplex
be reduced Co a duplex and the overall units be reduced to nine units.
Commissioner Vaught asked Mr. Schultz to elaborate on the point made by Mr.
Schultz about easements for safety vehicles. Mr. Schultz said that there are
two concerns that the neighborhood had discussed that were agreed upon by the
developer and he said he wished to make sure were konored: 1) he noted the
entrance to the alley and proceeding to where a right hand turn is made to the
east/west portion of the alley Chat goes on Co St. Clair, that it is a very
narrow alley, and the concern is to make sure that there is enough room, which
means to cut into the developer's property a bit for an easement to allow
adequate space for service trucks to get through; and 2) That there be enough
space on the alley to accommodate reasonable parking by residents was also an
issue addressed by the neighborhood that he said Mr. Mathern appeared
sympathetic to.
Commissioner Vaught asked what Mr. Schultz was looking for in terms of what
they don't have currently, in terms of parking in the alley.
Mr. Schultz said the primary issue is the easement for service vehicles. The
secondary issue is that currently some residents do park in parts of the alley
because of the types of garages they have, and the developer seemed to
indicate a willingness to accommodate some kind of room on his property to
address both issues. He noted that residents have concern that the
development would make it difficult for residents to park where Chey have been
parking in the back, and that they would be forced to go out onto the street,
and is an attempt to address what they see as a safety issue.
Commissioner VaughC asked what Mr. Schultz suggested with respect to
bu£fering. Mr. Schultz said that the neighborhood discussion originally
proposed it as a privacy fence. Upon speaking with the developer, it was his
estimation that it would be approximately $20,000 to do, however he did agree
at that time to do a good buffer in terms of a tree landscape buffer to
separate the project from the alley.
Commissioner Vaught received agreement from Mr. Schultz that he would prefer
to see one unit on Lexington instead of two.
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Chair Field requested that Mr. Schultz elaborate on the nature of his
complaints regarding the administrative due process issues he alleged at the
end o£ his letter.
Mr. Schultz reviewed his concerns related to two issues:
1) He reviewed that Tim Sullivan had submitted information for public
record which included a letter and attachments, and he understood that
only the letter and not the attachments, were forwarded to the zoning
committee for its review; and
2) He noted concern that Commissioner Vaught at the October 30 meeting
engaged in what he thought was an ex parte discussion with city staff
on some material. He said that as the zoning committee is a formal
adjudicative administrative hearing that the in£ormation is supposed to
be on the record, with decisions based upon it.
Commissioner Vaught responded that he is not prohibited from making ex parte
comments. He further commented that Mr. Schultz had attempted to draw him
into ex parte comments after that October 30 discussion and that he refused to
be engaged.
Mr. Schultz responded that he had approached Commissioner Vaught only to
inquire as to whether or not public testimony would be accepted at this
meeting.
Keith Curtner, 259 So. Lexington Parkway, spoke in opposition. He expressed
concern over traffic filtering off of St. Clair through the development and
out onto Lexington. He said that it appears that the preferred proposal has
parking or driveway pads in significantly short proximity to the alleyways
that would allow that to happen relatively easily, and asked that be
considered in the committee's recommendations.
Mr. Mathern, Mendota Homes, the applicant, spoke in rebuttle. Mr. Mathern
said that in the meeting held with the neighborhood they did agree that tkey
would allow a widening beyond the extent o£ the a11ey at the corner because
that is where the trucks make the turn and it is difficult. He said that this
could be worked out with staff as to rededicating and widening the alley. Ae
said that they do not agree to provide any parking spaces at that location for
the neighborhood. He noted that the location of the triplex, he believes, is
a matter of preference and that Mendota Homes prefers it as shown in the
preferred proposal. He said that a landscape plan wi11 be provided to the
City which will include trees and shrubs on the site.
Commissioner Vaught asked for clarification as to what is intended with the
widening o£ the alley, deeding the property or providing an easement. Mr.
Mathern noted it is just giving the neighborhood the ability to make the turn.
The public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Vaught moved approval of the special coadition use permit with
the £ollowing conditions:
1) That it be conditioned upon the specific plan that was presented at
this meeting which includes the triplex and it includes less asphalt
then the preceding proposal that included the triplex;
2) That there be no vehicular access from the alley to the site itsel£;
(the intent is that there actually be physical barriers)
3) That there be a suitable landscaping plan £os the area between the
existing asphalt and the alley;
4j That there be some speci£ic resolution o£ the issue o£ the passage o£
safety vehicles and/or other service vehicles acrosa the corner of the
alley;
5) There be required to be posted by the applicant (if appropriate) at
egress £rom the property, a prohibition on left turns onto Lexington
northbound; and
6) That the requirements be varied in line with the code provisions sited
earlier by Mr. Warner, to allow the single unit on Lexington as a parC
of this development without requiring that it be broken off as a second
development.
Commissioner Kramer seconded the motion. The motion carried on a unanimous
voice vote of 4 to �.
Commissioner Wencl was not present for the vote.
Commissioner Vaught noted that he believed that Susan Kimberly's testimony at
the October 30 meeting was valuable. He noted that i£ the proposed property
hadn't been an unusual piece of land that it would have been built on a long
time ago. Vaught said he had some difficulty retricting alley access to
property that's across the alley and has alley access, but was willing Co do
so if the developer was agreeable to it. He reiterated his concern over the
traffic on Lexington. He said he preferred this as to the proposal presented
earlier to the neighborhood, and liked the fact that there is less asphalt and
he finds units 6 and 7 to be closer to the houses on St. Clair then 8, 9 and
10 are in either proposal. He noted that he believes one unit on Lexington is
appropriate.
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Commissioner Vaught, after a recess, revisited the complaint by Mr. Schultz.
He said he believed his behavior to be inappropriately characterized as ex
parte. He said that the allegation that the committee is sitting in some
manor o£ quasi-judicial capacity is incorrect, and said it is an
administrative hearing, which is a recommendation to the planning commission
which either makes the decision in terms of SCUPS or advises the city council
in the case of rezonings. He reviewed that those decisions that are made
finally by the planning commission are subject to appeal to the city council
and that it is at that point that the city council sits in a quasi-judicial
capacity. Ae said that a conversation that he has with a staff person is
never an ex parte contact and he said it was inappropriately categorized as
such, and even if it were it is not prohibited and the only prohibition that
he's aware of in the legislative code dealing with ex parte contacts is that
which prohibits a member of the city council sitting in a quasi-judicial
capacity reviewing an appeal oE a decision of the planning commission from
having contact with the parties.
Drafted by:
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Recording Secretary
Sub ' ted b. Approved by:
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Southwest Quadrant Chairpe son
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MINUTES OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA ON OCTOSER 30, 1997
PRESENT: Mme. Wencl; Messrs_ Chavez, Field, Gordon, Kramer and Vaught of the
Zoning Committee; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mmes. Bartz,
Homans, James and Sanders and Mr. Ryan o£ PED.
ARSENT- Fa, excused
Time: 3:37 - 6:20 p.m. _
The meeting was chaired by Litton Field, Chairperson.
MENDOTA HOMES• xxx Lexinaton Pkwv S(southwest auadrant of Lexinaton and St
Clair: #97-207; Special Condition Use Permit. To allow a 10 unit cluster
development.
Beth Bartz, PED, Southwest Quadrant, reviewed the staff report and presented
slides. Staf£ recommended approval of the special condition use permit based
on findings 1 through 3 of the staff report.
Tom Beach, LIEP, site plan review staff, was present to respond�to questions.
The Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16
Planning Council recommended denial of the request for a special condition use
permit to allow a 10 unit cluster development. A letter stating their
position was distributed.
Seven letters of opposition were received, plus one letter signed by numerous
residents of the community in opposition.
Reference was made to a letter of opposition received from Mr. Sullivan by
Commissioner Vaught, and there was agreement by staff and by the commiCtee's
legal counsel that its contents regarding the applicant's previous history
related to bankruptcy and the like was not relevant to the discussion.
Commissioner Gordon spoke to the width of the alley and asked staff's opinion
with respect to whether the alley would be wide enough to accommodate two cars
at the same time. Mr. Beach responded that presently there is an unpaved
alley and noted that it is quite narrow in a few locations. Ae said that the
platted right-of-way is 20 feet, with the narrowest point when approaching St.
Clair there being a fence on one side and a power pole and trees on the other
side, and he noted that the paved area currently is only about 10-12 feet.
Public Works, A11eys staff, reviewed these measurements, and it was deCermined
that with some modification and paving of the alley it would be possible to
get a 15-16 foot paved strip through the location, where a 16 foot paved alley
is standard and it is not uncommon to have a power pole sticking out a foot
into that area. That would be wide enough for two cars in the summer, and in
the winter months it might just have a single track through there. The
applicant has agreed to pave the a11ey.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether staff has reviewed the concerns addressed by
the Canadian Pacific Railway in their letter of opposition dated, August 27,
1997. Ms. Bartz responded that those concerns have been reviewed. In regards
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to the noise barriers that they are requesting the City does not require that
of any developments along railroad corridors. What the railroad is suggesting
in terms of a berm and a fence, has been reviewed by Mr. Beach and found them
to be inappropriate for the site. Regarding the noise vibrations, this is
something that is also not typically required during City review. If the
committee would choose to do so, staff from LZEP sta£E could examine that
further.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the committee would have the authority to
deal with the various issues addressed by the railroad, i.e. noise, vibration
and insulation from the vibration, and warnings to prospective purchasers
about the associated problems. Ms. Bartz responded that staff has reviewed
the letter from the railroad as protection for the railroad that in the case
they either choose to increase their use of the railroad track that they would
have issued some public statement that potential buyers and the developer
should have been forewarned.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether any meetings have been held with
Mr. Mathern, the developer, and the citizens in the area with concerns to
attempt to reconcile the issues. Ms. Bartz responded that Mr. Mathern has met
with the Zoning Committee of District 16 on three occasions and has o£fered to
meet with a groups of residents of the immediate area which was declined by
those neighbors.
Peter warner, Assistant City Attorney, responded to the question £rom
Commissioner Gordon whether the committee had the authority to deal with any
or all of the issues set forth in the letter from the railroad as stated
above. He said that the committee did not have the authority, and noted that
in reviewing the specific requirements set £orth in the code, that the types
of concerns in the letter are not those concerns that can easily be read into
the language of the two applicable provisions of the code.
Commissioner Gordon further asked whether other City agencies would. Mr.
Warner responded that LIEP, in its site plan review, and the issues looked at
in that process, would likely not get to the noise and vibration issues.
Commissioner vaught asked Mr. Beach whether the issues raised by the railroad
that are relevant considerations are being dealt with at the site plan review
process. Mr. Beach responded affirmatively, and he noted that the issue
regarding the vibration he will discuss with the building code staff to
determine whether there are any rules there.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the applicant has offered to take any
actions with respect to any of these issues. Staff was not aware that they
have.
Chair Field questioned whether steps were taken in the site plan review
process to address potential erosion issues. Mr. Beach responded that as part
of the site plan the applicant will be required to take the standard
precautions for erosion, i.e. silt fences, reseeding the hills on the
embankment that comes up from the railroad track, which is likely the only
place where there are substantial grades where erosion would be an issue.
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John Mathern, the applicant, 23920 Hawthorne Avenue North, Forest Lake, spoke.
He reviewed design renderings that were part of the staff packet. Mr. Mathern
reviewed his first proposal was Eor 15 units on the site and had intended to
come in off of the a11ey on St. Clair. However they were unable to obtain
staff approval on that proposal and revised the proposal, putting in a private
road, a cul-de-sac, which accesses their property off of Lexington Avenue.
The cul-de-sac he said has been reviewed by City staff and found to be
sufficient to a11ow ingress and egress of emergency vehicles, as we11 as the
residential traffic on that property. In addition, he said that in order to
minimize the amount of road traffic on any one particular road they split [he
accessibility to the garages for these residences between the.alley on St.
Clair and Lexington and on the Street o£ Lexington as well. He reviewed that
Lexington Avenue is an extremely busy avenue and accessibility to the property
has been one of the concerns of the neighborhood. However, he made the point
that it is the only road they have and is the access to the property and they
intend to use it. He reviewed that 10 one and two-story townhome units would
be built on the site which he finds to be in fitting with the neighborhood as
the neighborhood consists of a mixture of two-story and one level homes.
Mr. Mathern acknowledged the letter from Canadian Pacific Railway and cited
examples of other townhouse developments they have built adjacent to extremely
noisy roads which have all sold and have had resales as well. He reviewed
that the proposed site is above the Canadian Pacific Railway and are 18-20
feet above the railroad bed itself. It is a tiered site with a major storm
sewer artery along the Canadian Pacific Road which is elevated about i0 feet
above the railroad itself and they come up another 10 feet to the plateau of
their site. He said their road has been staged to be between their
development and the railroad, leaving the units backed away from the railroad
area and back up to the a11ey, which disCances them as far away Erom the site
as possible. Mr. Mathern said that the houses will be built on virgin soils
so the shaking in that area should be minimized. Regarding soil borings he
said that they had yet to be done. The fill that exists on the site is where
their road bed would be along the edge of the ridge. He said that the sites
themselves seem to be sandy soil down about 4 to 6£eet. As they intend for
basements on many of the town homes he said it poses no problem for them.
Upon some rudimentary exploration of the site they found their virgin soil
where the houses would be. He addressed an issue by some of the neighbors
that this site was once a dump site. He said that he was awaiting a call back
from the MPCA, however he said he understood that within Ramsey County there
is a list of between 70-90 closed unlisted dump sites but said that this
doesn't seem to be on it. He said that they have been unable to find that any
contamination ever existed on the site, however such issues have been raised
as we11.
Mr. Mathern spoke to issues related to the alley. Mendota Homes has agreed to
pave the a11ey as a means of ingress/egress £or their residents. He noted
that they have asked for some discussion with the neighborhood to discuss this
matter, however the neighborhood declined. At the last meeCing with the
district council some opposition was raised by the neighborhood over
improvements to the alley for fear that it may increase the level of service
on the alley and it may incur a cost for maintaining the alley in the future.
Mendota Homes however does object to maintaining the a11ey indefinitely at no
cost to the entire neighborhood. He said that they would use an upgraded
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gravel alley if acceptable to staff and to the neighborhood i£ that is more
acceptable to the neighborhood.
Mr. Mathern reviewed that their proposed site has been used as a parking area
for the residents for some time, which has raised concerns in the neighborhood
about future parking availability. He said that had they met with the
neighborhood the neighborhood might have Eound that they could have provided
some parking spaces in the back on the curve where the alley will likely have
to be widened, which would also accommodate the garbage truck�s accessibility.
He summarized that they desire to be flexible, have dropped their density from
15 to 10. He spoke of a number of individuals who had given them reservation
agreements already for the site, who are from the neighboring area who would
like to reside in a townhouse and remain in that neighborhood and he said he
sees their development as compatible with the long-term residential
development o£ the City of Saint Pau1. He said that the town homes would be
in a mid-price range of $139 to $200,000 range, most of them likely being
between $139 -$179,000 range, which seems to be compatible with Saint Paul's
long-term plan for housing in the City of Saint Paul.
Traffic on Lexington. This was another large issue which Mr. Mathern
addressed as having been raised by the neighbors in all of their district
council meetings. He said that the traffic is probably between 15-20,000 cars
per day. However, he said if he adds 10 units with an average of 10 trips per
day with two cars, he didn't feel that those 80 trips per day will
significantly increase the traffic load on that road. He acknowledged that it
will be a problem with access, as Lexington is a rather fast trafficking
street, but no different than what the current residents must deal with as
there are a number o£ driveways currently on Lexington.
Mr. Mathern noted that staff has required that a catch basin at the end of the
alley be included so that the water that is there can drain into their pond,
which they will do.
He reviewed the aesthetics of the exterior of the buildings and their
relationship to the neighborhood. Mr. Mathern circulated a chart which showed
the exteriors o£ the existing one and two-1eve1 homes in the neighborhood and
he said that they feel that their one and two-level town homes fit the
neighborhood.
He summarized that they believe it to be a fairly compatible use for the
property, and that it is generally in keeping with the neighborhood as there
are town homes on the other side of Ayd Mill Road. They believe that the 10
unit development allows for a very nice area with a lot of green space to it.
Commissioner Gordon asked for the current conditions of the two alleys. Mr.
Mathern reviewed that the surface of the north/south a11ey is currently
gravel, however they would asphalt it. They would also pave the east/west
alley. When complete there would be a paved surface of approximately 16 feet
wide and he said that is what would be allowed on a 20 foot wide alley
easement, but he was unable to guarantee that two cars could be next to each
other in passing. He pointed out that in the area entering St. Clair that
there is somewhat of a bottle neck with large trees there, fences and garages
that are an existing condition. He said that the possibility would exist for
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all o£ their traffic to be loaded onto Lexington with nobody on the alley,
however splitting the load appears to them to be sufficient.
Commissioner Gordon asked for Mr. Mathern to respond to a proposal for no
access to Lexington, with all access from the alleys. Mr. Mathern responded
that the City has said that £or them to have addresses that they need a street
and they will not allow the alley to be used as their street.
Commissioner Gordon asked Mr. Mathern to respond to the Railway's suggestion
of a fence or a berm. Mr. Mathern said he was not in favor o£ a fence or a
berm. He noted that they sit 20 £eet above the railroad. He.anticipated that
his residents will consist primarily of single individuals andJor married
couples between 40 to 70 with few children, and no minor children that they
would have to guard against.
Commissioner Vaught noted that the unusual topography raises some particular
questions. He noted that the difference between units 6 thru 10 and the
abutting residential property either on St. C1air or on Lexington, is that the
only means of vehicular access is through the alley as there is no access to
any of those units from either Lexington, St. Clair or the private road, which
in effect turns the alley into a public street. Given that, and that it
wouldn't need to be done to service the vehicular needs of any of the other
abutting properties in that area, he doesn't see the reason why having once
paved the alley that Mr. Mathern doesn't think it ought to be the obligation
of the people who created the need to do that because it is the only vehicular
access to their property, why that ought not to be a continuing obligation.
Mr. Mathern responded that the units that do not have their garages exiting on
to the private road, but on to the alley have a sidewalk that takes them down
to the private road, where they can park on the private road.
Commissioner Wencl asked how much guest parking would be provided. Mr.
Mathern responded that there are 8 parking spaces, with 4 on the end of the
cul-de-sac and 4 where you drive past units one and two. He noted that for
the units on the alley that two cars could be parked in front of each double
garage.
Commissioner Wencl asked Eor the width of the private road. Mr. Mathern
responded that the road will be 2� feet wide, with the a11ey easement being 2�
feet wide with a 16 foot wide asphalt surface.
Commissioner Wencl asked staff what width is required when the Fire Department
issues their regulations for the width of a street, allowing for their trucks
to get in and turn-around. Mr. Beach responded that the Fire Department
typically likes a 20 foot access for emergency vehicles. He said that in this
case the 20 foot street out in front with the cul-de-sac was reviewed by them
and determined to be sufficient. He noted Chat the Fire Department was at the
meeting of this project and the plan presented at this meeting meets the Fire
Department approval.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the Fire Department's approval would be
withdrawn if there was no private road with a 20 foot width and there were
only the alleys to access the homes. Ms. Bartz reviewed that just using the
alleys as they were would not have been sufficient.
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Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Mathern had looked at the possibility of
a regulation that would prohibit right turns only to exit and enter the
development. Mr. Mathern said that those things dealing with health and
safety issues they would take guidance from the City on.
Susan Kimberly, PED, Southwest Team Leader, spoke. Ms. Kimberly noted that
over the past few years there has been an ongoing discussion at the
Metropolitan Council about how to deal with the issue of urban growth and what
the impacts of that growth and those policies were on our community. She
reviewed that the Saint Paul Planning Commission and the City Council took
positions on those issues and made a strong case to limit the overall growth
of the region, and need to take the steps necessary to see that sprawl is
diminished. The Metropolitan Council took a position that limited growth to
some extent, and as a result of that Saint Paul is forecasting an approximate
increase of 500 housing units per year £or the next 20 years. She reviewed as
a point of re£erence, that there was some debate about putting housing on the
Koch Mobil site, and the City Council has instructed PED to develop that 65
acre site for housing, and is currently being proposed to be developed in a
fairly intense fashion with 456 units proposed. If there were 20 sites of
that site available all of the new housing could be put on sites that have
little or no impact on any existing neighborhood, however that is not
possible. When looking at how the City would meet the housing goal it was
realized that it is going to happen in increments as being considered with
this proposal. Ms. Kimberly noted that over time these conversations must be
resolved in favor of additional housing in Saint Paul if the City is to meet
these housing goals.
Chair Field recalled the related discussion by the Planning Commission about
housing and their response to the Metropolitan Council, and asked whether the
proposed site was identified at that time as one of the potential housing
sites. Ms. Bartz responded a map was presented at the Planning Commission
discussion which showed some of the larger sites, as we11 as smaller
undeveloped sites, particularly along the Ayd Mill Road corridor and the 2-35E
corridor which have some potential for development and that the proposed site
would have been included among those.
Commissioner Gordon received confirmation £rom staff that the Department of
Public Works has stipulated that the alleys in question may not be used to
provide a street address for the proposed units, but that access to a City
street must be provided for this purpose. Ms. Bartz reviewed that the only
frontage that the proposed site has is on Lexington Parkway and that during
the site plan review process that Public Works determined that the applicant
could not address all of the properties off of Lexington and required that
they develop a private street.
Mr. Beach further reviewed that in order to build a house in Saint Paul it
must have £rontage on an approved street which has to do with public safety
issues and response to calls. In response to an inquiry, Mr. Beach said that
the Department o£ Public Works has said no to an option to name the alley so
thaC it may be used as a street address to eliminate access to Lexington.
There was some discussion about the different configurations looked at. Chair
Fie1d noted that the cul-de-sac basically constitutes the Fire Department
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access aad is critical in such a discussion.
Commissioner Vaught questioned the rationale that was used by Public works £or
requiring the private road £or the sole purpose of providing the buildings
with addresses, as opposed to,-and juxtaposed with, the obvious hazard o£
dumping that traffic onto Lexington Avenue, either right or 1e£t, given the
hazards. Mr. Beach said that upon review Public Works determined that the
ingress/egress situation was not ideal, but acceptable. He noted that an
option might be to keep the private road to meet the technical requirements
£or addresses and fire access and to have all the cars come in off of the
alley.
Commissioner Vaught asked what the reason was for not allowing the access off
the alley. Mr. Beach said that one of the main considerations was the impact
on the neighborhood, and that this was an alley and shouldn't be the main
access for every unit in the development.
Commissioner Vaught commented that all of the properties using the alley for
access is an inconvenience, however he felt that five of the properties using
Lexington to egress is a hazard.
Ms. Bartz pointed out that if the committee would desire some direct input
from the Department of Public Works that time would allow for this item to be
postponed for two weeks.
Chris Trost, Executive Director, Summit Hill Association, DistricC 16 Planning
Council, spoke in opposition. Ms. Trost read in as testimony, the letter from
District 16 dated October 29, 1997. In summary, the Zoning and Land Use
Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16 Planning Council
recommended denial of the request by Mendota Homes for a Special Condition Use
permit. (A copy of this letter is in the case file).
Commissioner Wencl asked for further explanation of the statement that "The
scale of the town homes is out of proportion with the adjacent homes.° Ms.
Trost responded that the size of the individual unit, hal£ of the footprint of
the unit, is approximately twice the size of many, if not most, oE the homes
that surround the townhome development on both Lexington and on St. Clair.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether District 16 made a proposal that would
resolve each of those issues to the applicant with respect to the issues as
they related to the soil tests, the vibration, the finished widths and the
scale. Ms. Trost said that the issues were raised at each of the meetings
over a 3-month period. She suggested that the overall issue and concern is
that there is a lack of confidence because there are so many details le£t
unanswered.
Ms. Trost comments are as follows:
Scale. Units should be smaller.
Finished width of the alle� Problem with finished width of alley is related
to the density of the proposal. Finished width might be fine the way proposed
if there were fewer units and fewer people using the alley.
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Soil. Looking Eor evidence or confirmation that it is not polluted and that
it is buildable.
Vibration. Concerned about establishing that it would not be unacceptable
vibration as addressed by the Canadian Pacific Railway.
Commissioner Gordon asked if there are existing homes as close to the railroad
tracks as any of the proposed homes would be located. Ms. Trost said that srie
was not aware of any that are.
Commissioner Gordon asked why the citizens declined having a meeting with the
applicant. Ms. Trost was unable to answer that.
Charlotte Patros, 1126 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Ms. Patros
expressed concern that the townhouse development would substantially devalue
her home. She said that although access from Lexington is all that is
available to the site, that it does not make it a safe solution.
Commissioner Gordon commented that typically higher valued homes built nearby
lower valued homes tend to increase the costs of nearby homes and asked for
clarification on this point, with Ms. Patros deferring to another person who
would be testifying. He asked whether Ms. Patros saw any solution to the
development which would accommodate the concerns of the neighborhood and the
applicant's desire to do the project. Ms. Patros said her greatest concerns
relate to the soil conditions and the buildability on the soil and the
stability of the structures when built and their subsequent marketability, and
iE these concerns can be met she believes that a solution can be reached.
Chair Field asked staff who is responsible for the oversight of the
suitability of soils for construction. Mr. Seach responded that would
typically be handled by LIEP when building plans are reviewed by LIEP for
compliance with the building code. If staff had reason to believe there to be
soil issues they would ask for soil tests.
Chair Field noted that as the soil issues are not in the purview of the
committee, but rather by LIEP, that they not be included in the committee
discussion.
Keith Curtner, 259 Lexington, a registered professional engineer, spoke in
opposition. Mr. Curtner identified his primary concerns as those of tra£fic,
soil conditions and commented on faetors he believes will impede project
realization. With respect to traffic he expressed concern that the proposed
project wi11 create a variety of traffic and safety problems of significant
proportions. (Please see a copy o£ Mr. Curtner's prepared testimony in the
case file. A set o£ photos was distributed for review and are also part of
the case file.)
Pat Byrne, 243 S. Lexington Parkway, a registered civil engineer, spoke in
opposition. He noted 100� of resident land owners oppose the project. The
issues addressed in decisionmaking included: Trees. Now serve as a sound and
visual barrier to Ayd Mill Road and railroad to be removed, which also serve
as an introduction to neighborhood traveling north on Lexington; Green space
will be severely diminished; Alley traffic. Mr. Byrne said that the addition
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of 10 more cars in alley wi11 be a sa£ety hazard; Property values. Mr. Byrne
alleged that due to the wide disparity in property values between the proposed
units and the existing homes, that the proposal will decrease the value of
existing homes and make them unsalable. No performance bond on the developer.
Byrne expressed concern over risk oE development £ailing and spoke of the
vibrations that are a factor in the neighborhood and which cause cracks in
walls which he believes are due to the poor soils.
Mr. Syrne addressed the issue of the meeting with Mr. Mathern being declined
by the neighborhood residents. He said that because residents saw no
alteration of the conditions which they opposed, they chose not to meet.
Byrne addressed the issue of eliminating the ingress/egress from Lexington
which he supported. I-Ie reviewed the Fire Department's need for a 90 foot cul-
de-sac £or turn-around in conjunction with the Department of Public Work's
need of a street for purposes of addressing.
Mr. Byrne spoke to Ms. Kimberly's remarks above, and noted that 20 sites may
be available in the city but many have issues of contaminated soil and are
costly to develop, however he didn�t believe it justified development that is
not in character with the existing site.
Commissioner Vaught asked how o£ten the Division of Traffic and Accident does
speed enforcement on Lexington Parkway. Mr. Byrne responded that his £amily
has asked the Police Department to do speeding enforcement along that stretch
but Police said that they cannot do it as there is no good place to put a
radar unit. With regard to traffic, the Traffic Division of Public Works when
doing traffic reviews can only look at two issues: 1) distance from the
signalized intersection and 2) line of sight. A1 Shetka, Public Works,
Traffic, was requested by the residents to review Mr. Curtner's concerns
addressed in his letter, and his only response was regarding the frequency of
accidents on St. Clair, which averaged approximately one accident per month,
which was found to be acceptable. Aowever, Mr. Byrne disagreed, commenting
that it was unacceptable in a residential area. (A copy of Mr. Byrne's
prepared remarks are in the case file).
Commissioner Vaught noted that such issues as green space, and marketability
were not issues relevant to the zoning committee's decision making. He
reviewed that although the footprint of the individual units proposed may be
somewhat larger than some of the smaller existing homes in the neighborhood
that they are not in much variance with the larger homes in the neighborhood_
Commissioner Vaught addressed the alley traffic. He hypothesized that at most
the proposal would generate at most a quarter increase in what is a very low
traffic pattern, and which pales in comparison to that existing on Lexington,
and said that the increase may be a nuisance, but not a hazard as the
Lexington traffic issue is.
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Mr. Byrne responded that this would be 2-3 times the city average use oE an
a11ey. He noted the fact that it is a two-block long dead-end alley, and
there is no on-street parking allowed on Lexington during rush hour.
Commissioner Gordon ascertained from Mr. Byrne that is personal there are 8-10
existing homes on the north/south alley currently using the alley, and 9
existing homes using the east/west a11ey. Mr. Byrne said that no hard numbers
exist for measurement of the traffic in these alleys, but rather personal
observation and impressions.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Byrne was aware of any other access
available to these residents to either Lexington or to St. Clair that the
proposed project could use. Mr. Byrne was not.
Helene Schultz, 1120 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Ms. Schultz spoke
to the following issues:
Al1ey tra£fic. Ingress/egress from the present alley on to St. Clair Avenue,
she indicating that two cars cannot safely pass each other at the entrance at
the same time and noted that the residents using the alley have developed a
system that works for negotiating around one another. Chair Field noted that
the alley would be widened if the project were to proceed.
Regarding the traffic flow through the a11ey, she said the question was not
the total number of cars passing through it on a daily basis, but at what
hours it is most congested, with Ms. Schultz indicating that being during rush
hour, both morning and evening.
Declined invitation to meet with developer. Ms. Schultz indicated Chat Mr.
Mathern notified them in advance of the third Zoning and Land Use Committee
meeting as to what his plan would be and asked for neighborhood support.
Since they didn't support it, and were not asked to come to discuss their
particular concerns, she declined the invitation to meet.
Reasonableness factor. She spoke of the negative views the proposed units
would have, the backs of the homes on St. Clair and from the other view would
be overlooking a railroad, and she questioned their marketability.
Ms. Schultz spoke of her neighbor, Bev, who was present at hearing but had to
leave. She said that the private road is proposed to go to the edge of her
property line, as well as a double-unit at this property line. She requested
that the proposal be considered without the home developed on that parcel.
Density. Concern that this type of development is very uncharacteristic of
the neighborhood, and that the cost of the units and character of development
is a significant misfit in the neighborhood. Ms. Schultz would support a
single family development on the site with 4-5 homes with adequate green
space.
Ms. Schultz spoke of a term called In-Rem, which refers to the situation when
property Curns out to be unmarketable, and falls into to disrepair, owners
don't have the resources to maintain it, and eventually falls to the city
without any taxes being paid on it. 5he cautioned against the risk o£ this
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property falling within such an In-Rem status in this neighborhood.
Chair Field asked that public testinony not include the economics of the
project.
David Schultz, 1120 Saint Clair Avenue, a professor of political science,
with expertise in land use and regulatory takings, and experience in code
enforcement, land use, zoning and housing and economic development, spoke in
opposition. Mr. Schultz reviewed the letter he submitted Co the commission
dated 11./13/97, which summarized his concerns. (A copy of this letter is in
the case file). Before doing so he said he disagreed with the. way that staff
has characterized the project and found staff's review of the site to be
remiss in several areas and noted that he found Ms. Kimberly's comments
regarding the Metropolitan Council to be inaccurate, saying he could speak to
that as someone who has worked with the metropolitan council on land use
development in the metropolitan region. I-Ie agrees that more housing should be
built. However, he said Met Council never said to build housing where it
doesn't fit and creates safety hazards and seriously impacts on existing
housing. Further comments included:
Traffic safety. As elaborated above by others. He addressed the issue of
shifting the traffic on to the St. Clair alley. While the alley will be
widened, he noted that at its narrowest point (12-14 feet), he said that there
is almost no room to widen it beyond a couple of additional feet, which will
not be significant in order to accommodate additional traffic. Question had
been addressed as to the number of accidents which have occurred in the a11ey
and he suggested the more appropriate issue to be what is the traffic flow on
St. Clair, which he said is exceedingly high, especially during rush hour,
which provides for difficulty currently in entering and exiting the alley. He
noted that there is currently an average of one accident per month. To add to
this traffic he said would not create an inconvenience but a£urther hazard
that already exists on the St. Clair alley.
Parking. If additional alley area parking is provided it would close up the
alley to allow adequate traffic flow to go through, and in addition the
project will put additional parking out onto already overcrowded streets,
creating further hazards on the streets.
Fire Safety issues. Ae said that even with the widening to 16 feet, that the
ability to get a hook and ladder down the a11ey at its narrowest point is
problematic. He stated that there is an assumption that the entrance to the
proposed cul-de-sac�at St. Clair will adequately absorb fire safety vehicles
and he proposed that is assuming it's not rush hour traffic and that there is
not guest parking in the cul-de-sac, and if not the case there will be
signiEicant difficulty.
Proposal is inconsistent with integrity of the neighborhood, including
aesthetics and lines of the structure. He said it looks different and there
are no other cluster developments in the area.
Mr. Schultz addressed the fact that the existing units in the neighborhood
range in price Erom $60,OOD to $90,000, with the proposed units going from
$140,000 to $200,000. He finds this to indicate an incapatability with the
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existing units.
Inconsistent with the comprehensive plan for the neighborhood. The fact that
it needs a SCUP alone, he said, indicates its incompatability.
Mr. Schultz said he felt attached units, not clustered units would be
permissible. He suggested removal of the two units on Lexington, as the two
large units next to a small house was not acceptable. I-Ie also suggested the
architectural look o£ the building must be changed.
John Mathern, the applicant, spoke in rebuttle. He reviewed the communication
with the neighborhood on a number of occasions. He said that the district
council advised that they meet with the neighborhood and he said that they
attempted to do so, and he said that they desired to have an open dialogue.
He reviewed that they have over the course of time, reduced their density,
changed their roads, changed the way they load on to the alleys. He noted
that the units proposed for bordering on Lexington will be one level units.
Chair Field questioned the issue that detached homes cannot be placed on the
property. Mr. Mathern said this was addressed and at one time they had two
detached units proposed, but were told they had to use a common wa11 with
attached units.
Commissioner Kramer asked i£ certain units couldn't be platted as separate
parcels and make them not part of the clusCer development. Mr. Beach
responded noting that one of the problems is that the units have frontage on a
private street. Given the unusual shape of the lot there might be some
question in meeting the minimum lot size reguirements.
Mr. Ryan further noted that in R-4 zoning they would need 40 feet of frontage
and there is only 180 feet o£ frontage available on Lexington Parkway.
Commissioner Kramer asked if the only way to do stand alone units would be
under a planned unit development. He agreed, but said that in that case a
rezoning would be required.
Commissioner Chavez asked whether the developer has a performance bond in
place. Mr. Mathern responded that none is required for Chis project. He said
that once the project has been approved they would be required to post a
completion bond, which they will do. �
Commissioner Chavez spoke of the a11ey traffic and asked if a11 alleys aren't
pretty similar where two cars cannot pass one another in the alley. Mr. Beach
acknowledged that this situation is quite common.
Mr. Mathern said that had they had an opportunity to meet with the
neighborhood their various concerns could have been addressed, i.e. the
additional parking, the aesthetics, etc.
Commissioner Gordon asked if the site were zoned properly for free-standing
homes he asked if the developer would consider building it that way. Mr.
Mathern responded that it would not be free-standing homes on a City street as
the property doesn't a11ow for that, and an earlier proposal with attached and
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detached units was turned doom by City staff.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Mathern was still willing to meet with
the neighbors to attempt to work out the problems. Mr. Mathern responded that
he did not want to meet with the neighborhood, but wanted to see action taken
by the committee.
Commissioner Chavez noted through staff that the applicant has already agreed
to extension of the 60-day period so that he could continue conversations with
the neighbors and work with district 16 and with staff with issues raised in
the site plan review process. �
Commissioner Wencl said that it appeared that the requirement of having an
additional street is the most limiting part of the development. Mr. Mathern
responded affirmatively. However, he said it was naive of them initially to
believe that they could have all units accessed by the a11ey. It was pointed
out at a number o£ meetings that nobody wanted all of the garages to load on
St. Clair, nobody wanted them to run through from St. Clair to Lexington. He
said that he likes the cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Wencl asked if there is any other possible way to configure the
development so that the cul-de-sac can be minimized, to position the house
more favorably on the site so as to limit the number that have to be accessed
£rom the a11ey. Mr. Beach responded that 90 feet is the minimum required by
the fire code and despite looking at other designs, in the end a better design
could not be identified.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Vaught said that the Lexington traffic significantly bothered
him. He said that he understood that the cul-de-sac oEf of Lexington likely
represented a compromise between what the original proposal was, which was to
use the alley exclusively for access. However, he noted that primary access
to the a11ey wi11 remain £or five of the units. He said he had significant
concerns and unanswered questions with respect to why Public Works was adamant
with respect to the design of this, as he didn't feel it makes sense.
Commiasioner Vaught moved a two-week layover, to November 13, 1997, to allow
Public Works` representatives to attend the meeting to address this issue.
Commissioner Gordon seconded the motion.
Commissioner Vaught welcomed the event Chat the neighborhood and the developer
might decide to meet to try and reach agreement.
Chair Field reviewed that in the event a compromise were arrived at, that the
public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Vaught included in his motion that the public hearing be reopened
in the event a compromise were reached, but would not a11ow for the revisiting
of any and all issues outlined at this meeting. Commissioner Gordon supported
the motion.
Commissioner Gordon also desired input from Public Works and wished to see any
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available data on the use of the a11ey.
Commissioner Vaught noted that the motion implies that the public hearing
would be opened in the event of a compromise with the Chair framing the
discussion and allowing testimony regarding only new issues.
The motion £or a layover to November 13 carried on a unanimous voice vote of
6 to 0.
Drafted by:
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Recording Secretary
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Beth Bartz
Southwest Quadrant
Approved by:
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Chairpers,
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ZONING COMMITTHS STARF RSPORT
FILS # 97-207
1. APPLIC2:N'P: MENDOTA HOMES
DATS OF HEARING: 10/30/97
2. CLASSIFICATION: Special Condition Use
3. LOCATION: xxx LEXINGTON PKWY S(southwest quadrant of Lexington and St.
Clair)
4. PLA23NI23G DISTRICT: 16
5. LEGAL DESCR2PTION: see file
6. PRESENT ZONING: R-4 ZONING CODS RSFERENCE:§60.413 (13) &§64.300 (d)
7. STAFF INVBSTIGATION P.ND REPORT: DATS: October 17, 1997 BY: Beth Bartz
8. DATE RECEIVSD: 08/04/97 DEADLINE FOR ACTION: 12/02/97
A. PIIRPOSE: A special condition use permit to a11ow a 10 unit cluster
development.
B. PARCEL SIZE: The development parcel is roughly triangular in shape with
183.93 feet o£ frontage on Lexington Avenue. Total lot area is 107,380.5
square feet.
C. EXISTING LAND IISE: One storage building is currently located on the
property. Otherwise, it is vacanC.
D. SIIRROUNDING LAND IISE: The property is surrounded by single family homes on
the north and east, and by the Short Line railroad corridor and Ayd`Mill
Road diagonally on the southwest.
E. ZONING COnH CITATION: Sections 60.413 (13) and 64.300 (d) of the zoning
code permit cluster developments subject to the conditions detailed i.n
findings #2 and #3 of this report.
F. HISTORY/DISCIISSION: There are no previous zoning cases concerning this
property. A site plan review is also required. Initial reviews indicate
applicant has meC the site plan requirements; approval is pending on the
approval of the special conditional use permit.
G. DISTRICT COIINCIL RBCOMMENDAT20N: The Summit Hill AsSOCiation reviewed an
earlier proposal for a 12-unit cluster development on October 9, 1997.
They reoommended denial of the special conditional use permit for a 12-unit
development. The 10-unit proposal will be presented to the Zoning and Land
Use Committee of the Summit Hi11 Association on October 28, 1997. Any
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£urther recommendations will be presented at the October 30 public hearing
by the Planning Commission.
H, FINDINGS•
1. The applicant has a purchase agreement for the property proposed for
development. Ten dwelling units are proposed, 5 buildings of two units
each. Access to the parcel is proposed from Lexington Parkway via
private street. Five units wi11 access their garage from the private
street; the remaining five garages will be accessed by the existing
alley.
2. Chapter 60.413 (13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments
subject to the £ollowing conditions:
a. There shall be a minimum of two (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units are planned.
b. The units shall be atCached, common wall, single-family, with no unit
iatruding on the vertica2 airspace of any other unit.
This condition is met. The units are paired side-by-side, with no
unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit.
c. The parcel sha12 meet the Iot area required per unit in the zoning
district.
This condition can be met. The 1ot area, including half of the a11ey
is 107,380.5 square feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit,
exceeding the 5000 square feet per unit requirement.
d. The parcel shall have a minimum frontage of eighty (80) feet on an
improved street.
This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet o£ frontage on
Lexington Parkway.
e. The structure shaSl confozm to the schedu2e of regulations for
height, lot coverage, setbacks and parking.
This condition is met. As proposed, the develoment meets tfie
requirements for height, lot coverage and parking prescribed by the
zoning district. Twelve visitor parking spaces will be provided in
addition to a double garage for each unit. Zoning enforcemenC has
determined the £ront yard to be on Lexington, and the rear yard to be
the farthest northwest corner of the parcel. The plan appears to
meet all setback requires; LIEP will be con£irming conformance will
the front yard setback requirement next week.
f. The design sha12 be compatibSe with the sssrroundiag aeighborhood.
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding
neighborhood which consists o£ a mixture o£ 1, 1-1/2, and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs. Materials used in the
surrounding neighborhood include stucco, clapboard, metal siding, and
composite shingles. Windows are a mixture of double hung and fixed
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"picture" windows.
The proposed units are 1 to 2 sCOries in height with interseeting
gable roofs. (See drawings attached.) The applicant has not
specified which units will be one or two stories, but rather proposes
that decision be made with the potential buyer. Exterior material is
proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, wtiile larger than
the typical home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design,
is broken up by a central gabled bay. Porches and double hung
windows provide other design elements similar to houses in the area.
g. Individual lots, buildings, street and parkiag areas shall be
designed and situated to minimize alteration of the natural features
and topograpky.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for
the site. The grading plan also includes construction of a storm
water pond near Lexington. However, the overall topography of the
site, including the slope into the railroad corridor, would not be
disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the sl.ope area of the site
would remain.
h. Applications for cluster deve2opment sfia21 ineSude site plans,
including landscaping and e2evations and other infozmation the
pSanning commissioa may request.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan,
landscape plan, and building elevations along with a written
description detailing the specifics of the development.
3. Section 64.300 (d) of the zoning code requires that before the planning
commission may grant approval of a principal use subject to special
conditions. the commission shall find that:
a. The extent, location and intensity of the use wi32 be in substantial
compliance with the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan and any applicable
subarea plans which were approved by the city counciZ.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to this
matter. The"re are no applicable small area plans for this area.
The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990s recommends "expansion of
housing opportunities for middle and higher income households where
this market is or can be addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this
proposal will be priced at $139,900 -$200,000, addressing middle
income populations.
b. The use will provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic
congestioa ia the public streets.
A private street wi11 provide primary access to the units and allow
emergency vehicle traffic and visitor parking. The Fire Department
has determined this access to be sufficient for emergency access.
Five of the ten units will access their garage from this private road
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as well. The remaining five units will access their units from the
alley. The applicant has agreed to make improvements to the alley as
part of the project.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to
Lexington raising concerns about traf£ic cutting through the alley to
avoid the intersection at St. Clair and Lexington. The current
proposal does not extend the existing alley and does not aonnect the
alley to the private street, eliminating the ability for traffic to
cut through.
Several residents have expressed concerns about any additional use of
the alley due to the proximity of the alley outlet to the St. Clair -
Lexington intersection and the width o£ the alley. Public Works has
reviewed the pzoposal and found the use of the alley and the proposed
curb cut acceptable provided the alley is paved and the entrance to
the private street from Lexington appear similar to a driveway
curbcut, rather than a street, to minimize confusion.
a. The use wi11 uot be detrimeatal to the existing charaeter of
development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger the public
health, safety and general we2fare.
This condition is met. The number of new dwelling units can be
accommodated by existing facilities and services provided by the
city. The private street will accommodate emergency vehicles and all
requirements for water, sewer and storm water have been met.
d. The use will not impede the normal aud orderZy development and
improvement of the surrounding propesty for uses permitted in tke
district.
This condition is met. The surrounding property is £ully developed.
The new housing will serve as a buffer between the single family
homes on St. Clair and Lexington and the railroad - Ayd Mill Road
cox'ridor.
e. The use sha11, in aIl other respects, coaform to the app2icab2e
regulations of the district in which it is located.
This condition is met.
2. STAFF RECObIDfEtIDATION: Based on findings 1 through 3 staff,recommends
approval of the special conditional use permit.
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SPECIAL CONDITION USE PERMIT APPLICATION
Department of Planning and Economic Development
Zoning Section
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25 West Fourth Street
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❑ River Corridor Conditional Use Permit
❑ Modification of River Corridor Standards
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permit (attach additional sheets if necessary)
• SPECIAL CONDITION USE: Expiain how the use will meet each of the special conditions.
• RIVER CORRIDOR CONDITIONAL USE: Describe how the use will meet the applicable conditions.
• MODIFICATION OF RIVER CORRIDOR STANDARDS: Explain why modifications are needed.
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City of St. Paul
P{anning and Economic Development
25 West �ourth Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
We are proposing the development of a two-plus aere parcel of land located at the
southwest corner of the intersection of Laxington Qaricway South and St. Clair
Avenue in St. Paul. The devefopment will be a townhouse community consisting
of five fixinhomes.
'fhe property has streetfrontage of approximatoly 184 feet on Lexington Parkway.
tt then moves back and widens west of Lexington Parkway South to the front of the
altey behind the homes on Lexington Parkway South and St. Ciair Ave.
Ouf proposal is to build ten homes (five twinhomes) on this project site of 101,589
square feet. The averaga lot siza wili be 2,87D syuare feet. The reason this tot
size is signiftcantly smaller than originally proposed is due to the addition of an
outlot of 74,236 square feet labele8 as "Lot 11" on the preliminary plat.
in order to provide ac�ess to this properky, we propose a private drive off of
Lewngton Ave. that wil� service the garages of five of the townhome units. The
remaining ftve units wili have �arages and street access off the existing aileys and
St. Clair Avenue. This proposal is in r�sponse to concerns about tra�c increases
on Lexington Parkway. We feel that by routing half the traffic of the development
onto Lexington Parkway and haif onto St. Clair Ave., we mitigate the problem. In
addition, we have agreed to pave ti�e north/south and east/west alleys to provide a
hard surface roadvray for residents and neighbors.
After much discussion, we have praduced an exterior design that will be easify
incorporated into the varied design of the existing neighborhood which consists
m�in4y of one and two story structures with detached garages. Our townhomes
will'be a mixture of one attd two story units with and without basements. They wili
have two or three bedrooms, two or thfee bathrooms, and an attached, two-car
garage off the rear of the structure. Twenty covered and 2A uncoveted parking
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A townhome association wi11 be put in place to
Much discussion has occurred on this development with The Summit Hill
Assocfatian, neigF�bors, and City oi St. Paul stafif. We feel we now have a well
ptaiined and designed development. We are hoping for a favorable response.
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October 22, 1997
Beth Bartz
City of St. Paul
Planning and Economic Qevelopment
25 West Fourth Street
St. Paui, MN 55102
Dear Beth,
This IetEer serves fo Update our tetter of September 25, 1997, regarding pricing
and development costs of Lexington Commons Townhomes.
We remain committed to price ssnsitivity and providing a townhome product
suitable for purchase by r�sidents who already live in tho area of Lexington
Parkway and St. Glair Avenue. Ho�vever, due to fewer uniis in the developmant,
our prices have been adjusted upward to accomodate allocation of land
development costs. The Lexington Commons townhomes will now range in price
from $139,900.40 to around $200,000.00. The lower price delivers a rambler with
an unfinished basement. Prices then inerease according to number of leveis,
square footage, and interior selections.
In talking with individuals who are interosted in living in this development, we have
discovered that the increase in price has alienated some potential buyers. 4'Vhile
this is unfortunate, we have also received new inquiries from potential buyers
seeking a slightiy higher price range.
Overall, this project remains viable despito changes in price range. lnterest is stili
high and we look forvvard to approval and moving forward with construction.
Again, thank you very much for your continued support and suggestions on this
development.
Sincerely,
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Erin;E, Mathern
for f�lendota Homes, Inc.
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Summit Hi11 Association
District �6 Planning Council
Beth B2rtz 86� Saint Clair Avenue
Planning and Economic Development saint Paui, Minnesota 5sios
25 West Fourth Street Te�ephone 612-222-1222
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102 Fax s�2-222-issa
e-mail summit.hillC�?stpaul.gov
October 29, 1997
RE: Zoning File Number 97-207
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Dear Ms. Bartz and Members of the Zoning Committee of the Pianning Commission,
The Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hiil Association/District 16 Planning
Council met with Erin and John Mathern of Mendota Homes in August, September and
October to discuss their proposal for a ten unit ciuster development southwest of Lexington
and St. Clair. Throughout the process, the Matherns have been willing to discuss their proposal
and have made changes and adjustments in response to concerns raised at these meetings.
However, it is the opinion of the Zoning and Land Use Committee that there are still significant
issues which have not been addressed in a satisfactory manner. Briefly, these issues are
safety, density, soil conditions and architecture:
• The traffic on Lexington is close to its maximum capacity and may actually reach
maximum capacity during rush hour.
• There is evidence that this site may be a former dumpsite. Yet the developer has
little knowledge of the condition of the soil. A soii test shouid be done and should be
determined to be acceptab4e for a development of this size.
• The multiple concerns of the Canadian Pacific Railroad have not been addressed. A
vibration test should be done and should be determined to be acceptable for
residential habitation.
• The developer has not adequately addressed several issues regarding the aliey; in
particular, the actual finished width and assessments.
• There remains concern over adequate maneuvering room for emergency vehicles
and garbage trucks.
• The scale of the townhomes is out of proportion with the adjacent homes.
• The character and the aesthetic of the townhome development is inappropriate for
this particular site.
Therefore, the Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16
Pfanning Council recommends denial ofi the requesi by Mendota Homes for a Speciai
Condition Use Permit in order to construct a ten unit cluster development southwest of
texington and St. Cfair.
Sincerely,
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Charles Skrief, Chair
Zoning and Land Use Committee
Summit Hili Association/District 16 Planning Council
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November 5, 1997
Beth .Bartz
City of St. Paul
Department of Planning and Zoning
1100 City Hail Annex
25 West 4th Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Mendota Homes/Lexington and St. Clair
Zoning File 97-207
Dear Beth:
I would like to take this opportunity to express my support for the proposed
development of townhomes on the southeast corner of Lexington Parkway and
St. Ciair Avenue. { live in a townhome at Wilder Park, direct4y across Ayd Mili
Road from this proposed development. The townhouse style of living appeals to
those of us who do not want the upkeep of a single family home. �he possibifity
of having more townhomes in this area is an exciting one, since it would allow
peopfe to have this styie of iiving, but remain in the city.
1 understand that there are serious concerns regarding access to this site. When
there are so few lots available in the city for new homes to be built, I think it
essential that some sort of compromise be worked out to enable this
development to proceed. I encourage all parties to work toward a safe, realistic
solution which would aliow these homes to be built.
Thank you.
Very truly yours,
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Kate cGough
1172 St. Clair Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105
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1166 St. Clair Ave
St Paul, MN 55105
November 5, 1997
Dept. of Planning &
Economic Development
Att'n: Beth Bartz
1100 City Hall Annex
25 W. 4th St.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Zoning File 97-207
Mendota Homes
Dear DPED:
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We support the modified proposal to build ten townhomes in the southwest
quadrant of Lexington & St. Clair.
We live in Wilder Park, across Ayd Mill Road from the proposed development.
We understand that access remains an issue, and we urge you and the developer to find
a suitable compromise that will allow the project to move forwazd. St. Paul needs to
encourage these types of developments to provide housing choices, help keep our t�
base viable, and to encourage people to remain in--or perhaps move back to—the city.
With so littie space available for cluster development in St. Paul, a creative solution
must be found that atlows the community to take advantage of this unique opportunity.
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Lauralee GarFieid
and Rodney Oisen
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October 19, 1997
To: Zoning Committee of the Saint Paul Planning Commission
25 West Fourth Street
100 City Hall Annes
Saint Paul, �' S5102
From: Le�ngton & Saint Clair Property Owners prosimate to Subject Development (below)
Subject: Special condirion use permit far 10-unit cluster development called Lexington Commons
Zoning File Number: 97-207
Zoning File l�iame: MENDOTA HOMES
References:
• Article; Highland Villager, August 6, 1997; MnDOT foresees uaffic congestion without Ayd Mill Road Connection.
• Article; Highland Villager, October 8, 1997; Ciry Council iejeas request fo= MaoGrove townhomes.
• Sumaxit Hill Association and Distsict 16 Planning Council; 1997 Goals and Objectices
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We, the undersigned property owners, are unanimously opposed to the proposed cluster development as
wimessed by our signatures on this document. We describe in this letter our reasons why we are opposed
to this project.
We want the Zoning Committee to deny the proposed cluster development. Our rationale:
TRAFFIC DENSITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY
I.exington Avenue is a very hi� volume toadway, especially beriveen I-94 and Randolph; we believe that this project will
exacexbate the tcaffic density in tlus corridor, zefez to the attached article from Highland Villagez, August 6,1997.
Accident frequenry at St. Clair and Lexington is high; we believe that the additional entry/exit traffic to/from the pxoposed
duster development will inczease the frequency of accidents due to the very short haffic mixiug length afforded by the
available sites for new stieet access to the pzoject. It is very probable that the point of intersection of the proposed street access
with Lexington Pazkway coincides with the ma�imum tcaffic velocity in both the north- and south-bound directions; thus
making it very difficult foz traffic movements into and out of the proposed development
We believe that the pzoposed pxoject will cieate a vauetp of tcaffic aad safety pioblems of significant pxoportions. Private street
access for the project onto Lexington Pa:kway will occur at the bottom of the valley betmeen St. Claix and Jeffrxson, just before
the bridge (southboun� oveL Apd Mill Road. Two feanues of This geometry combine to form a dangerous set of traffic
conditions: (1) this low point is whete traffic will typically have its maximum velocity, (2) drivexs atteniion is drewn to points
above the madwap to the traffic lights at the top of the hill (m eithez direction St Qair for northbound tiaffic and Jefferson for
southbound ttaffic). Thus, with cacs at maximum velocitp and with daveis looking ahead to see if ihey can make the lights, the
traffic will be ill pzepazed foz perpendiculaz uaffic movements enteting/leaving the I.eaiagron madwap at the end of the
bridge.
Summit F3il1 Association recognizes the tzaffic problems in District 16 and has set polides to promote traffic c lm a pmjects;
the pmposed project is in duect conflict mith these traffio-calmuig objectives.
PARBING ISSUE
Gurmndy it is possible for guests and escess parking in the reaz of zesideats on Leffington Parkway. With the increased traffic
and deaease in appazent useable surface, parking will no longez be possible in the alleys. The altemative is pazking on
Lexington Pazkmay. Wlule pazking is only restricted there Monday thru Faday and then only during rush hou=s, absolutely none
of the residents park thexe during other houts because the huge potential for causing a fatality. This is not just an opinion. We
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have done studies where cus aze parked duzing daylight hours and seen the number of neaz accidents that occuL We have not
tried this during night hours on weekends because we aze not prepazed to accept the responsibility for the accident ihat will
occua
ARCFiITECTURAL HARMONY
We find ihe plaaned decelopment m be inconsistent wirh e�sting neighborhood arrhitectuie that is currendy all single-family
homes with detached gerages
The Rambler styling, walkout basemenrs and cul-de-sac sueet organization w-ill make the pmject look ]ike �X/oodbury-in-Saint-
Paul very much out of character for the area.
ALLEY ACCESSIBILITY AND TRAFFIC
The subject development will place about a 30% increase in alley traffic aboae that esisting today. The alley in quesrion is a tee
with dead-end ternrinations and no tumarovnds. An 18-foot opening off of St Clair avenue approximaiely 120 feet west of ihe
intexsection of St. Clair and I.esingtoa Pazkway affocds enttance. Figure (ENTER) shows ihis entrance to rhe alley.
The increase in alley treffic will deczease properry calues for rhe residents on Lexington Parkway and St. Clair Avenue.
Neighbors have successfiilly appealed increased properry valuations by arguing incteased street uaffic causes deteriorating
pxopetry values.
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This is the entrance &om St
Clair Avenue to ihe dead-end
alley rhat sezves 18 neighbors.
Note the small access road
widch. Its ONE GAR WIDE!
Traffic is always very 6eavy
at this e�t.�
NEIGHBORAOOD CHARACTER
Constrvcfion plans call fnz a pavate sixeet to secvice the proposed development Building this srreet will zequice the xemoval of
most, if not all, of the trees along the vdge that forms the pzoperty boundary of Reuth's Lot 19. Removing these trees will
exacerbate the existing soil ezosion condirions along Ayd Mill Road. Additionally, these nees form a windbxeak and sound
barrier for the neighborhood; it would be important to keep tliis function for the pioposed homes due to ihe high levels of
uaffic noise (auto and railroad) fiom Lexington, Ayd Mill Road and ihe Soo Line tracks.
There is a kind of Gateway to ihe azea of Saint Paul noxth of Ayd Nfill Road which is formed by the uees along ridge of the
railroad cut Figure (GA3'E) shows the effect that ihese irees have in prociding the green enu�zcay to the city u one proceeds
north on Lexington. Aemoving the tcees to make way for the private stceet access to the ptoposed project will dcastically alter
the chazacter of the neighborhood.
Summit Hill Association has speufic objectives to ptomote greening of District 16. Tlus proposed development is in direct
conflict with these greening objectives.
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top of the adge at the leR These
trees will be removed to make puvate
street access if the proposed
decelopmentgoes forcvazd_
This wrould be a drastic and
irrecocable modification of the
neighborhood chazacteL
FIRE AND SECURITY
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Fire company access to buildings in the pioposed addition would be severely limited by ihe alley access which has overhead
powerlines, restriaed width (single lane) and will require fire rigs to either enter or exit by bac6ing up since rhere is no
pzovision foc tumaround of large azticulated vehicles. Curiendy the waste disposal vehicles (considerable shorrer than hook-
and-ladder equipment) must back up and rurn azound in the tee of ihe alley ln order to access nelghborhobd waste picb
The alley is not designed to serve as a traffic laterat, a role ihat is forced on it now due to pazking limitations and the unique
configuration of the site. It is unsafe now, with no additional traffic. You can't say ihat it will get 30% more unsafe; instead
there w-ill be a disproportionate, nonlineaz increase in safery threat due to ihis tiaffic loading.
STRUCTURAL AND EKVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
We believe diat Lot 19 Reuth's Addition will be built on a former waste disposal site. Current residents have recently at[empted
modemizadon and expansion pmjects. These piojects have shown tY�at the sod in Reuth's Addition is composed of dischazge
material such as coal ash and domestic detatus of verg porous chazactec wtuch in some cases has cequired footings of up to 24
feet in otder to meet consttuction codes of Saint Paul.
We believe that soil stabiliry will pose pLOblems during development foz existing homes in the neighbozhood and will affect
post-development homes strucnual quality. We believe that Ruerhs Addition Lot 19 is the youngest azea of the waste disposal
site and would thecefoxe have ihe least stable soil chatacteristics and greatest potential for hazudous substance entrainment
We have concems about the structural integrity of slab-on-grade houses built on soil of dubious stabiliry; espedallp as this
affects rhe long-term prospects of our community as a whole.
We believe that there is reason to question the environmentai condirion of subsurface soils; i.e. waste disposal fill material will
ptobably contain agents wluch would xequise remediation befoze the soil could be dassified as enviionmentally acceptable foz
homes. Neighbois hace found cieosote tteated railmad ties, lead pipe, bottle glass, coal ash and other debds.
We aze concemed ihat no rigorous and unbiased soil samp3ing has been attempted; we aze not aware of any actual soil resting
has been accomplished on a scale which would permit accurate evaluation of the soil strucmral and environmental qualiry of
Reuth's I.ot 19.
We believe that paor to wnsiderarion of the duster de� the issue of soil condition (structure and encironmental
hazazds) should be resolved fhtough soil tesring.
ECONO�IIC BEA'EFIT
The property, Reuth's Lot 19, has been dassified as having no economic value and has been murimally assessed as such for
many years. To the best of our knowledge, Reuth's Lot 19 was purchase under a Saint Paul surplus propertp program. The
buyer I:new the state of the piopezt� its access limitations and existing soil condition at the time of purchase.
Denying the special condition use perntit will thecefoie not hazm the cuccent ownec The tand is zoned fot Residential
developmeat of single family dwellings and can be sold and/or developed for such purposes.
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We, the neighbors, should not be placed at risL- by City Council to be unieasonably affected by the monetazy goals of either ihe
seller or a developer whose sole purpose is to make monej: We hope that greed of those seeking the special condirion use
pexmit dces not tal.e precedence ovex the desiie of our neighborhood to retain its individuality and charactez
ECOVOhfICS OF DEVELOPhfE1VT
We do not believe there is sufficient marl:et intecest in new construction in a neighborhood w�th home value chazacteristics that
e�st in Reurh's Additioa. Ecea ihough Mendota Homes hu indicated there is interest in the development by persons unL-nown;
we believe that thete is a significant diffecence in intetest and intent 2o buy. We believe that the detractozs 2o the pmpetry
described belom will dampen the interest of the prospective buyes.
We believe that there aze significant detraaoxs which will affect the mazketability of the proposed units: pro�miry to railroad
right-of-way; tcaffic density and entrance/egLess to Lexington Pazb proximity to aircraft appxoaches at MSP Intemational
Airport; un-resolved I-35 Conneaor issues; proximiry to NSP lugh-voltage transmission lines; pending iecreational bike-parh
pmject All of these issues would negarively affect an astute potential buye�s decision to pucchase.
Mazket prices quoted by Mendota Homes fox the units are up to 5180,000. The average home value in fltis neighborhood is
around $8Q000. This means that the proposed uni[s will be valued an mote than 2_times the existing homes We believe that
astute home buyecs would not consider such an investment in ielatively over-priced =eal estate; especially given ihe aesthetics of
the primary ciew from the pioposed residences. Loo�ng from ihe bxow of the hill bordering on the Aqd Mill Road at the
apptosimate location of the ptoposed private sneet access to the project properries is the 14plus story brick Wilder high-rise
and NSP high voltage transmission lines which dominate the view
CLOSING REQUEST
We ask you to please acknowledge our voice as residents of this community and vote to denp any variances
to existing ailowed development.
Sincerely,
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Keith Gurtner 259 xington Pkwy
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25 West Fourth St.
1100 City Hall Annex
St. Paul, MN. 55102
Dear Commissioners:
Re: Zoning file number 97-207: Mendota Homes
I am opposed to a speciai condition use pemut to allow a 10 unit cluster development for
the reasons of safety, trafTic, and character of the neighborhood.
The visitors that now pazk on the side or our garages will no longer be able to park there.
They will instead need to pazk on Lexington Parkway thus eliminating one lane on uaffic
between St. Clair and the bridge over Ayd Mill Road. This poses a safety problem as the
cars going south on Le�ngton Parkway will not be able to cleazly see the park cars.
The additional street or road entrance/e�t onto Lexington by the bridge over Ayd Mill
Road will cause additional problems. This is because both the northbound and the
southbound traffic on Leacington Pazkway has hills. The placement of the opening is at the
bottom of both hills.
The aliey is not wide enough for two cars to use at the same time. If a car is coming in
and a car is going out one of the cars must backup. The means backing up onto to St.
Clair on backing down the aliey until you have enough room to stop. The garbage trucks
need to back out from the north/south alley to the east/west alley to tum around to leave
the alley or vice versa. Our alley in unique in that there is only one entrance/exit. I do not
think our alley could handie any additional cars.
I am against the tearing down of the trees along Ayd Mill Road side of the property
because they act as a sound barrier from the train and traffic noise on Ady Mill Road and
the Soo Line railroad tracks. It wili also change the view and the privacy that people have
when using the backyards for entertaining. It will change the chazacter of the
neighborhood.
Sincerely Yours, �
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Alberta L. Binker
263 So. Lexington Pkwy.
St. Paul, MN. 55105
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?5 �:/PSt Kellogg Blvd.
St. Pa.ul, M1V 55102
DPar Sirs:
I am writing regarding a spPCia.l pPrmit for
P�Yendota HomPS, to build a 13 unit cluster
dPVelopmPrit on thP southwPSt quadrant of
Zexington and St, Clair AvenuPS in St. Paul.
I am definitPl,y against this zoning change
for this small parcel of land. It is a green
spacP so badly nPeded in cities nov:. There
are Pnough homes in this area nou� plus the
railraod tracks and steam lines so near.
I certainl,y hope common sense will be used
regarding this matter and leave thP area
alone:
SincerPly,
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MINNEAPOLIS, M�i t
August 27, 1997
Zoning Committee
City of St. Paul
25 West Fourth St.
I 100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
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�ONING
RE: Zoning File Number 97-207, Mendota Homes
Special conditional use pemut to allow a 13 unit cluster development
Southwest quadrant ofLexington and St. Ciair
CPR Mileage 414, Merriam Park Subdivision
To whom it may concern:
We have reviewed the above-mentioned proposal and wish to state our opposition to it.
Residential development adjacent to our right-of-way is not compatible with railway
operations. The health, safety and welfare of potential residents could be adversely
affected by railway activities.
. Notwithstandin� our opposition, should the proposed draft plan of subdivision be
approved, Canadian Pacific Railway requests that the following conditions be imposed on
the development:
1. Berm, or combination berm and noise attenuation fence, havins extensions or retums
at the ends, to be erected on adjoining property, parallel to the railway right-of-way
with construction accordin� to the following specifications:
a) Minimum total heisht of 18 feet above top-of-rail;
b) Berm minimum height 8 feet and side slopes not steeper than 2.5:1;
c) Fence, or wall, to be constructed without openines and of a durabie material
weighing not less than 4 Ib/sq. ft. of surface azea.
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I`TO part of berm/noise barrier is to be constructed on railway property.
A clause should be inserted in all offers of sale and purchase or lease, and be registered
on title or included in the lease for each dwelling affected by any noise and vibration
attenuation measures, advisin� that any berm, fencin„ or vibration isolation features
implemented are not to be tampered with or altered, and further that the owner shall
have the sole responsibility for and shall maintain these features.
Dwellings must be constructed such that the interior noise levels meet the criteria of
the appropriate authority. A noise study should be cazried out by a professional noise
consultant to detemune what impact, if any, railway noise would have on residents of
proposed subdivisions and to recommend mitigation measures if required. The
recommendations of the sTudy aze to be implemented. -
2. Setback of dwellings from the railway right-of-way to be a minimum of 90 feet. While
no dwelling should be closer, an unoccupied building, such as a garage, may be built
closer. The 8 feet hi�h earth berm adjacent to the right-of-way must be provided in all
instances.
3. Ground vibration transmission to be estimated through site tests. If in excess of the
acceptable levels, all dwellings within 225 feet of the nearest track should be
protected. The measures employed may be:
a) Support the buildin� on rubber pads between the foundation and the occupied
structure so that the maximum vertical natural frequency of the stnxcture on the
pads is 12 Hz;
- b) Insulate the buiiding from the vibration ori�inatin' at the railway tracks by an
intervening discontinuity or by installing adequate insulation outside the building,
protected from compaction that would reduce its effectiveness so that vibration in
the building became unacceptable; or
c) Other adequate measures that �vill retain their effectiveness over time
4. A clause should be inserted in all offers to purchase, agreements of sale and purchase
or lease and in the title deed or lease of each dwelling, warnine prospective purchasers
or tenants of the e�stence of the Railwav's operating right-of-way; the possibility of
alterations, including the possibility that the Railway may expand its operations, which
expansion may affect the living envuonment of the residents notwithstandin� the
inclusion of noise and vibration attenuating measures in the desien of the subdivision
and individual units, and that the Railway will not be responsible for complaints or
claims arising from use of its facilities and/or operations.
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5. Any proposed alterations to the e3cisting drainage pattern affecting railway property
must receive prior concurrence from the Railway, and be substantiated by a draina�e
report.
6. Any proposed utilities under or over railway property to serve the development must
be approved prior to their installation and be covered by the Railway's standard
a�reement.
7. A 6 foot high chain link fence should be constructed and maintained along the
common property line of the Railway and the development by the developer at his
expense, and the developer is made aware of the necessity of includin� a covenant
running with the lands, in all deeds, obliging the purchasers of the land to maintain the
fence in a satisfactory condition at their expense.
To ensure the safety and comfort of adjacent residents and to mitigate as much as possible
the inherent adverse environmental factors, your assurance that the above conditions witl
be imgosed on the developer would be appreciated.
We would appreciate being advised of your decision regarding this proposal in due course.
Sincerely,
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David S. Drach
Area Manager
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Ms. Beth Bartz
Zoning Office
City of St. Paul
1100 Ciry Hall Annex
25 West Fourth Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Southwest Quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair
Applicant: Mendota Homes
Zoning File No. 97-207
Dear Ms. Bartz:
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I am enclosing for your reference copies of three court decisions involving John Mathern, a principal in
Mendota Homes
An Order in mortgage foreclosure action on townhomes built in Washington County;
2. An Order granting United Mortgage Company relief in the bankruptcy of John and
Sandra Mathern and denying the Matherns' discharge;
An Order confirmine the bankruptcy court's denial of the Matherns' discharge in
bankrup[cy.
As I no[ed to you on the phone, Mathems did brina an action against their bankruptcy attorney
in connection with their bankruptcy filing.
In addition to reservations about the developer, I think the site is quite small for the ambitious
project proposed. Substan�ial tra�c will be brouoht into the neighborhood. The budszt raises
concerns about the project's viabiliry, suggestin� the project should be rejected for a special conditional
use permit.
Very tmly yours,
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Professional Limited Iiabilit� Partnership
4000 FIRST B?�\"B PLACE
601 SECO�D A1 SoL�'x
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5540°-4331
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(612) 339-7121
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September 11, 1997
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PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
ZONING COMMITEE
OF THE SAINT PAUL PLANNING COMMISSION
TO property Owners �r��ithin 350 feet; /
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TIME OF HEARING
PL ACF OF HEARIl�'G
HOW TO PARTICIPATE
A1�TI' QUESTIONS
Thursday, 10/30/97 at 3:30 p.m.
Cit}' Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City� Hall-Cour House
15 West Kelloge Blvd, Saint Paul, ivIIv' S5102
1. You ma�� attend hzarino and testif� .
2. You mav send a letter before the hearina to the Zonine Committee. �:
�Vest Fourth St, 1100 City Halt Annex Saint Pau1, M1v » 102.
3. Participation is not required. This is your notice of public hearins.
Call Beth Baztz of the South«•est tzam at 266-6�80 or your District C ounc,:
Representati��e at 222-1222 �sith the follou information:
Zonin� File Number 97-207
Zoning File Iv'ame MENDOTA HONIES
Mailing Date i0/17 47
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David & Helene I,evy Schultz
1120 Saint Clau Avenue
Saint Paul, Minnesota 5�10�
292-1096
October 20, 1997
Zoning Committee
c/o Beth Bartz
25 West Fourth Street
1100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear Zoning Committee Members:
Re: Mendota Homes/ file number 97-207
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We are properiy owners abutting on tbe proposed developed for a ten unit cluster
development at the southwest quadrant of Lexington and Saint Clair. We oppose the
granting of a special condition use permit to permit this development and we urge members
of your committee and the entire Planning Commission to oppose the special use permit.
There are several reasons why we oppose the granting of the special use permit.
The Mendota Homes project poses a traffic safety problem for the
neighboThood. On the one hand, the development will create an egress on to Lexington
Avenue next to the bridge crossing Ayd Mill parkway and the railroad tracks. This new
eeress will force additional cars and traffic on to a road that MNDOT has alreadv described
- as one of the busiest roads in Saint Paul. (see attached Highland Villager article) Already,
the traffic con�estion on Lexington makes it difficult to enter this street and the Mendota
Homes development would only exacerbate the problem. In addition, unlike other
residential streets in the neiahborhood that have altemative egresses besides entering on to
Lexington, the Mendota Homes development w�ill not.
An eQress at this ]ocation will pose riro additional traffic safetv�roblems. First, the egress
�vill come at the base of a slope of an incline that makes it difficult to see oncouung traffic.
This slope thus creates a visual hazard that w�il make tums across tbe Vaf6c very difficult.
Second, an e�ress here will create a hazard for people wishing to make left tums across the
traffic. There is no question that such tums «zli cause traffic backups. additional con�esrion,
' and accidents.
In addirion to tbe traffic problems Mendota Homes wil] cause by the creation of a new
earess on to Lexinaton, the project also calls for the use of an exisring and small alley off
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of Saint Clair as egress for several of the units. This additional demand on the alley is also
a traf6c safety problem for several reasons. First, the alley is very narrow (ZO feet across)
and seivice vehicles and passenger cars already have difficulty driving down it Moreover,
there is no possibility of widening tbe alley. Second. the allev already enters on to a verv
busy intersection where there are many traffic accidents. Those of us �vho already use the
alley for our homes have difficulty entering and leaving the alley because of the Saint Clair
traffia Third, tlie traffic demand on this alley_is alread�reat and the proposed Mendota
Homes development would si�nificantiv increase the number of cars in an allev alreadV
overcrowded. Fourth, unlike other alleys that laave two egresses, the Saint Clair alley only
has one. This means sib ificant stress on an existing al]ey a3ready overused, placing the
additional traffic on to a very busy street. Hence, adding more traffic makes no sense.
The Mendota Homes pro,ject should be denied a special condition use permit
because similar projects for this property have been turned down in the past.
Several times in tl�e past requests for development at this location have been made and the
City l�as consistenUy turned tl�e project down citing dwelling density, congestion, and traffic
safety issues on Saint Clair. Those decisions were made when the traffic congestion on the
street was much less than it is today.
The Mendota Homes project will create �re safety problems. Because of the
narrowness of the Saint Clair alley and the traffic conQestion on Saint Clair and Lexington.
it wil] be verv difficult for public safetv vehicles. e.g., fire, police and ambulance services, to
enter the Mendota Homes develo np �ent• While the developer contends that his proposed
L,e�ngton egress will be accommodate public safety vehicles, we do not believe that is the
case. Especially in situations during rush hours, or when residents have guests over, the
additional cars parked in the area will make entrance by service vehicles problematic.
The Mendota Homes project is inconsistent with the overall integrity of the
neighbor.hood. An important consideration in granting a special use permit is that the
project fit in with the overall intearitv of the neighborhood. On several fronts, this
development does not. First. it creates a type of unit— cluster development—that is out of
character witb tl�e rest of the homes in the neiohborhood. The rest of the houses are single
famih� detached units. Second, the architectural stvle of the proposed units is inconsistent
�oith the houses in the neishborhood. Third, a cul-de-sac development like Ylendota Homes
is inconsistent «ith the type of development �ce have or want in this neiQhborhood. Fourth,
the project increases unit densit�� beyond what is compatible ��ith the current neiQhborhood.
The Mendota Homes project is inconsistent with the comprehensive plan for
the neighborhood. The comprehensive plan for this area of Saint Paul does not call for
this t�rpe of development or increase in the unit densiri�. Since zonin? laws. ��ariances, and
permits must be consistent �iith the overall comprehensive plan. the cluster development
specia] unit permit shou]d be aiewed as a form of spot zonina that is contran� to citv law and
the overall development plans for the nei�bborhood.
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The Mendota Homes request for a special condition use permit to buiid cluster `
units shouid be rejected for the same reasons a similar project on Juliet and
I.exington was TejeCted. Law, as well as fairness dictates that equals should be treated
the same. Here, the Mendota Homes project is very similar to a special condition use
permit for cluster development that you and the City Council rejected recently on Juliet.
There, tl�e basis of rejection was traffic safety, emergency vehicle access, a lack of harmony
bet�veen the proposed project and the neighborhood, and lack of support by neighbors. (see
attached Highland Villager article) T7ie same conditions are present here except to the
e�tent that the Mendota Homes project has even less direct access to a main street than did
the 7uliet project. Hence, fairness and the ]aw dictate that you reject the special condition
use permit.
The Mendota Homes request for a spe�ial condition use permit should be
denied because none of the neighbors abutting on the project support it.
Lacking community support from those who must live near the project, we urge you to
oppose the granting of a special condition use perrnit for Mendota Homes.
'I'hank you for considering our letter and viewpoint.
Sincerely,
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Helene Levy Schultz -
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David & Helene Lery Schultz'htendota Homes
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City Counci) rejects request
for Mac-Grove townhomes
�1 proposed Macalester-Groveland hous-
ing development was dealt another setback
on September 2�4 whzn the St. Paut City
Council rejected a request by Highland Park
dzveloper John Kratz to vacatz a section of
Paiace �venue.
i:*a:z :can[s to construct a two-building,
eisht-uni_ townnome complex on about
=9.000 sauazz fzzt ot ��acant land that he ol� ns
zast o* Lzx�r.g*.or. Parkwav bem�een Palace
and Juiiet a: enues. Hz ���as hoFinQ to a C{� L^.2
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rz>: oEni> r:oper,;�.�chxh nz purnaszefrom
,ie \tiar.z�o.a Dzpz:tment ot T: ar.spo:.a-
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reaues: ier a s�eci�I coaditior, usz ee: :ii*. to
build a"c:uster dzvz(ovmer.t;' a construc:ion
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said the council should not approve the street
vacation until Kratz and his neighbors can
agree on a development plan for the prooerr.��
witho�� Ayd Mi�l Road conne��ion
byJane;�IcClure � tzattheanatysisdidro:zndicateLSa;,.
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� Proposedcor:ectionsben+•eenAqdi�tilL_f.cpreolems."Ionl�seesieintzrseccicn>o•,
Road and I-91 wiL be o.zser:ted to the Ayd c:-aci.y;'said �iacaiescer-Grove!aac :e���_
�Mi11 Road Task Force aU:00 p.n. �Ionda•r, � se�tatr:° Kac� \.fcGough."bVhv 2re •.re :oe's-
Augus:l3, at thz �izrriam Pzr1: Community i:g at milIions aad millions ef dolia: s:e, c
Centz:, 2000 SC 3nthor.y A•:e. Thz task force, >iiil Road iP.+�e can hzr.d'tz the t:a�:ic �.: i;.i "e
which is composed of rzpresentatives fron 5::2°G`n'e 42 oOCY�� -
local commenirr councils,businzss associa- �I:.l Klassen oFthz SL Paul Puoiic �.�or.:;
'tionsandocherne:ghboihood�rouos,hopes Dzpa:tment respondzd tha[ probi�c:> al-
to make a recomnendation'on thz future of readv esistir.g at somz intersections cs ;no;
thero2dway:n19S3. - rzzdilcberecufiedwithoutdiveCin�::�;c-c
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simolvamarerofremocingL`�ebarriersnear ferthecapacityproblemsloomin�;;3a::_
JefTerson Avenue and I-3�E. Connzctin� the c'eloh and I-35E or at Selby and Sr.e:;i ,�, j:2
Ayd �.Iill Road's north end to I-94 is another s:�d.
matter.Sevzralconnections, Hzreare44ekeyfindin�sfrointhzz::zivsis:
and interchange layouts are being studizd, • Snzlling Avenue is expected to >ze .h�
and a?I involve 4'�e removal of residential and la:gesc increase in trafric bythe ye;: 30?0.
comme:cial propzrties. Strong opposition to Pza: ai,ernoon rush hour traftic ve•._mz i>
anyconnectiononthenorthendhasblockzd 'c�*readvat2,375vehidesanhoura*._4-�:ir.�
the comple!ion o; Ayd �titl Road since thz - aac Shz:burnz;3,600 at Snzlline and :=_::har;
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officizls say iailcrz to connec; the roadtivay to tiszly—if Ayd Mill is r.ot connzet:? :o ta:
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Pat Byme
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266-8643
243 S. Lexington Parkway
Tuesdav, Januarv 13. 1998
TOTAL NUMBER t?F SHEETS (including this one): �a
REMARKS
Conceminp "lexinqton Commons proposal (�Lexinpton and St. Clair'
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look�d u� their addresses f 1166 and f 172 St. Clair) and nofed thev are not in our neiqhborhood but
across the freeway from the or000sed developemerrt T hank vou for distnbutina this
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I'm here to read a letter signed by ail af my neighbors. I'd like to note that aimost
all of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the
five public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown
up for at least one of the five private meetings held in various neighbor's homes
or rented community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people
living next to the site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington
Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the tollowing list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
• ProperEy Acquisition
The property consists of two loes. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked
� lot behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surplus county
property for hundreds of dollars. It was deemed valueless or near so then
because of it's unsuitability for development. We are not saying you can't
develop properey because it was deemed valueless at some point in its history.
We just want to be clear that there is no mayor investment or livelihood that we
are threatening with denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of value of their property. It
has accurately been described as valueless in past, peopie have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
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• Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to
deveiop the property under the existing zoning before issuing a speciai use
permit. The owner has not done this. 'Fhere has never been a discussion of
developing the site as zoned_ The site is zoned single family residential, and the
owner has not tried to put singie family residential there. This can happen with
no changes, to the property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen,
with some changes, to the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this
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Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
• Aliey Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two,
not one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone
involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
AlI the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have
happened already due to combination of density of existing traffic and proximity
of the alley (125'} to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the aliey would require a paved surface 16' wide_ This
would require removal of the trees in the ailey and supporting of existing
structures.
• Existing Property Values
Initially some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. it was
thought that if you put new housing woxth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an
existing oId house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would
actually devalue the existing house. However at one of our private meetings we
invited a number of real estate professionats to speak to us. Two of them inform
us this would not be the case. However both were very emphatic that amenities
to the neighborhood are indeed lost, and that their statements on property value
were very much contingent on the proposal being completed and completed
correctly.
However even with this assurance sume are still fearful. This concern was listed
in this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made awaxe of who the developer is. I'd like to return
to this issue a bit later.
• Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
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2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the wamings issued by the railraad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has
indicated that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a
minimum of two schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
developments.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the
very least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this,
no soil barings have been performed. Instead, slab on grade construction has
been proposed.
4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; wiil it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears
that if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving
a mess behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more
deviation or variances, because there will be a need to restore the site inio
something usable. In 1978 Roger Vik pr�posed apartment buildings with
underground garages. Will this proposal come back?
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
stnzctures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. The anly really compatib2e item will be that
they house people.
You go from a 64' or 9Q+' by 25' structures with attached garages of 800 sq feet for
a total of 24Q0 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging
from 600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go Erom a mixEure over SQ years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
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� The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a pubiic street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to �200,000
Again the requirement is far granting a special use permit that compatibility
exists. Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation
of the word compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non
existent one. We believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word
`compatible' is being stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
• Safety
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We feel staff and P1aruling Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the
ptoposal be safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use
permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionals in municipal traffic and municipal engineering
testify that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments
are on public record. There has been no conflicEing testimony from City Staff,
engineering or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as
to distance from a signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight
requirements, and that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, carne
from staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning
commission. Later at another public meeting the same planning commission
member, when quizzed on how informative Public Works was, stated his
disappointment in them. While he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion
he was disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is safe'. We, the
neighbors, are equally disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is
unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this issue later.
Again, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal
engineering and municipal traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions.
One was very descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills,
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. distracting characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff
and they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they
could or would not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safery hazards by requiring a no
le£t turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This
inadequately address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the
two hills Iocated right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to
look like a driveway, not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no
corresponding effort to regulate left turns into the site from north bound
Lexington Parkway, again causing an unexpected road blockage for norEh bound
traffic and crossing over south bound traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason
to condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over
decades and correcting them may not be practical now.
Storm Water Mana� ment
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements
� that are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement
being applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of induscrial or
business expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas or in
park areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the
developer seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon
this particular safety issue.
Parking On Lexington
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington
Parkway, on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing
private property, with the end resuit be3ng that guest of residents on Lexington
end up parking on Lexington, you will almost for sure be causing a tatality.
Residents have done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight
and observing the number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents
occurred almost every signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be
__ conducted_ This issue has not been addressed at all by staff because it is a- ---
seconctary effect of the proposal. But without this proposal it would not happen
at all.
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This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a halt way house moving in, or a]ibrary, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the awner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
• Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development
where the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged
� and deveiopment within existing highly dense sites is to beencourage. There are
plenty of sites within the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential
use. You have the old Amhoist site between Robert and Wabasha, you have
river front sites in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, ,you have the
Phalen Corridor with it's accompanyuig light industrial. These alone offer the
opportunities for 1000's of residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it
worth an investment by the community at large, you can mave on to cleaning
up contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around
a little bet#er, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no
problems with compaYibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be
planned sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good
example.
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The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Councit Policy.
'They have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of
variations of deveioping this site including one not significantly different then
what you are iooking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at
an earlier public hearing to recommend denial.
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� The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with
this policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this
neighborhood. We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way
of complying with the Met Council. Furthermore, the process we have been
subjected to appears to be somewhat willy nilly. The developer has offered many
variations of basically the same problem proposal but changing it enough at the
last minute to make it a difficult moving target. For the last change, offered 5
minutes before the zoning committee meeting, no prepared comments from the
residents were possible. Even complete staff apgroval had to be estimated by the
staff present at the meeting. This did not appear to be the way to decide a
community's future.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
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We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack o€ tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy. However they are willing to state off the record
they do not think so, and in fact think this is a bad example of compiying with
that policy. But there is no departmental procedure for getting that opinion to
you. There is no where an avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a
vacuum from the City on what appears to be the majar impetus for granting
approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answez to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative word because we have an official stance of neutrality and we can't risk
having a Iawyer sue us because our professionai opinion may make it hard for
them to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at
the storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance_
However also note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibility of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of
Parks was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't
make the decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park
staff to ask them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing
them without being requested they run into problems with setting precedence,
etc. and that isn't easy to explain or deal with.
Is staEf really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 24Q0 square foot townhouse
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no trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of siucco,
and wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed
yards off set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the
policy makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this
direction. We are aware that there is a pluralistic society of tax payers and citizens
out there and that they all have their concerns and needs. But we also feel tough
answers to tough questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we
with our 400 yearsof invesYment in this community, are members of that society
aiso.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks
this is a good idea and whether ar not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter
come over and make a definite statement that ponding sites in residentiai
neighborhoods are needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement
that Ehis is a good example of complying with Met Council Policy.
� As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru� all the various puhlic hearings cited by advocates of
this proposal, both at the District Council and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal piease tell the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Council three times on
this issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multiple variations that were not viewed ahead of time. In each case
the neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and
even citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him
earlier.
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� Along with a lack of response at the formal meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them.
The first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning
committee where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and
negotiate, he no longer was willing to do so.
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However after members of the zoning commission stated they wouid view
favorably the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did
discuss alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the
developer. An agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues,
mainly the alIey access, but nowhere near all issues. Before the neighborhood
coordinator could get all the responses from the rest of the neighborhood, the
developer had called back and said there were problems. It was with this
information we attended the zoning committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the full Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson
of the Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposa] as
having neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to
the fulI commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood
support was the issue of not using the alley outletting to St. Clair Avenue by
future owners or guests ot future owners of the town homes. Public record from
the second of the two dates for the public hearing in front of the zoning
committee show that the Matherns never came to an agreement on any other
issue, that they found problem with the proposed agreement before it could be
presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years ot time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council, pay attention to these findings and find Ehem cause for
denying what many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not
destruetion of our neighborhood.
• EarYier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted bya Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the
documents as 'The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage
Corporations for two lots they purchased and that the debt was a Iittle over half a
million. This occurred in October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot of
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� people. However in 1992 there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or
delayed their creditors, failed to produce adequate financial records, and
knowingly made false oaths. It appears that it was further found that the courts
held that substantial evidence to support an inference of fraudulent intent bythe
Mathems. An appeal court found the Matherns failed to set forth affirmative
admissible evidence to rebut the considerable circumstantial evidence of
fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attorney
chose to not have the fulf material released in a package to planning
commission members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their
decision making capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting
attorney was included. Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this
decision by the City Attorney. As noted abave staff and now commission
members are limited as to what they can say or do.
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However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we tear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond for complying with alt the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to explore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our alternatives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We reatize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
VVhy has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for public record 'they wouId never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition
and in alt past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as
is now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first
alternative is to do just fhaE on the lot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone
else in the neighborhood has.
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I HELEN H CURRIER
I 1 t 16 ST. C�AIR AVENUE
I LOT 9, RUETH'S ADDITION
I DAVID A& HELEN L SCHULTZ
I t 120 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
1 LOT 10, RUETH'S ADDiTION
I JOEL M& CHARLOTTE PATROS
I 1126 ST. CLA1R AVENUE
I LOT 11, RUETH'S ADQITION
I ALICE L PETERSON
I 113� ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 12, RUETH'S ADDITION
I MARGARET H MARKS
I 1134 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
i LOT i3, RUETH'S ADDITION
I SUSAN E WAGNER
1 1138 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 14, RUETH'S ADDITION
f CRAIG & BERYL P BOE
I 1142 ST. Cl1aIR AVENUE
-- I LOT 15, RUETH'S ADDITIOI�I _
I JAMES W& LISA R SWYERS
I 1146 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to canstruct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor`s concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received alt the answers.
This is our petition to the City Council of St. Paui from the following residents:
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I MII.KA P& TODD THORESEN
I 1152 ST. CLAtR AYENUE
I LOT 17, RUETH'S ADDITiON
I SETH M ANDERSON
I 1156 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I E 40 FT OF LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
i MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
I 1160 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
f WITH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
I E 40 FT LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
I PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BI.ANK
I 243 S. I.EXIIVGTON PARKWAY
I N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT i,
I RUETH'S ADDITION
I CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
I 251 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
{ EX N 1 O FT, LOT 2, RUETH'S ADD{TION
I KEIYH LANE CURTNER
1 259 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 3, RUETH'S ADDITION
I ALBERTA L 81NKER
I 263 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, RUETH'S ADDITION
I HEI.ENE G OSTROW
I 269 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
1 RUETH'S ADDtTION
I CHRlSTOPHER WALKER
I 273 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 6, RUE7H'S ADDITION
I ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
I 279 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, RUETH'S ADD�TION
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I 283 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 2 FT OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOT 8,
I RUETH'S ADDITION
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Aftemoon. My name is Pat Byrne and I reside at 243 S. Lexington Parkway.
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. However as a courtesy, the
letter was provide to you before hand and Its been indicated that it has been read by
the Council Members. It is important to the signers of that letter that it is read or
listened to as this is their first opportunity to speak to a public representative in this
process. Anyway I'm going to summarize that letter instead of reading it. However I
will read the summary. (I'm not sure if it is the reading or the length that bores
people and puts them to sleep). I'd like to note it is a very concemed group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors that share in this appeal. It consists
of 100% of the people living next to the site and incfudes neighbors on the other
side of Lexington Parkway. If possible I'd like to have those neighbors stand up,
especially those who do not like to speak in public.
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process pertormed by
both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the following list of comments
however you will note that we address both those errors and omissions and repeat a
number of comments we have made in the fast five public meetings held discussing
this issue.
I apologize to the signers if this seems briefer then it should, and I apologize to the
Council if it seems longer then it should.
! Property Acquisition
The site was acquired for very little money back in the 70's. It was deemed
worthless then and has been deemed almost worthfess since then by both ihe
owner and Ramsey County property taxing system. We are not depriving someone
from their livelihood. I'd like to note at this time an error in the letter sent out. It was
not acquired as surplus county property.
! Minimum Requirements
There has never been a discussion of developing the site as a single family
residential site and therefore not requiring anyone to go thru this process.
Ostensibly one of the reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
I'd note that one of the requirements is to minimize alterations of the natural
features and topography. The plan proposes the removal of most if not a�l of the
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! Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two, not
one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet Everyone involved
has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased traffic on the
alley.
All the residents agree this would not be good to ailow. Accidents have happened
already due to cambination af density of existing traffic and proximity of the alley
(125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surtace 16' wide. This wouid
require removai of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing structures.
! Existing Property Values
As noted those people right next to the proposed 150,000 units feel their 60,000
would not sell due to contrast. However two real estate agents, while acknowledging
that amenities are reduced, property values should not be affected. However they
noted this is only true if done right and if done completely as the plan indicates.
However even with this assurance some are still fearful. This concern was listed in
this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made this
disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is.
! Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viabiiity of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill from
the development.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the very
least an abandoned dump site.
4)The site proposal calis for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane expressway
or into a linear park?
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5) There are fears the developer wili walk if the units don't seil even though he has
assured us they will sell like hotcakes. And then what will the City allow to happen
on the site to salvage it
! Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states AThe design wili be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood@.
We think there is a mistake here. And this is one of the major issues to everyone in
the neighborhood. The only really compatible item will be that they house people.
You go from a 90' by 25' structures with attached garage of 800 sq feet for a total
3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from 600 square feet
to 900 square feet. The attached garage is bigger then some of the houses
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metaf
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple family
housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with yards and
boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the trees
removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own unique
characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a special use permit that compatibility exists.
Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story structures
with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation of the word
compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non existent one. We
believe of the envelope ofi possibie interpretations of the word `compatible' is being
stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
! Safety
Another requirement is that `The use will not be detrimental to the existing character
of the development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger public health,
safety, and general welfare'
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of safety,
either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. This is the second major
issue with the neighborhood.
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Traffic
The pubVic record contains assessments by engineering professionals that the
proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe, and there has been no conflicting
testimony from City Staff. In fact when asked directly if they could say the neighbor's
assessment was incorrect we got a negative answer.
The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance from a
signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight requirements, and that it is as safe
as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came from
staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning commission who
fater expressed unhappiness with the response level, as we have though 1 suspect
for different reasons. He was fooking for a clear statement that is was safe and we
were looking for a clear statement that it was unsafe.
As an aside to the letter I'd like to point out that surviving the review process is not a
statement from City Staff that it is safe. It is a statement from staff that it met
distance from signalized intersection standards and it met line of sight standards.
That is all.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a no left
turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This at best
addresses about 20°l0 ofi the traffic safety issue and was done with no consultation
at sll with traSfic professionals.
Storm Water Manaaement
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. As a Water resource professionaf I have found this to be
intrinsically unsafe in residential areas where chifdren are or in areas where their
existence is a surprise.
Parkina On Lexinqton
One end result of the proposal, whether directly or indirectly, will be a definite
increase in Parking on Lexington Parkway. Parking on Lexington will lead to many
traffic accidents and I will easily state, traffic fatalities. There has been no comment
or review or contribution to discussion on this item from anyone within the City.
In the list of major accident areas throughout the city, Lexington Parkway already
occupies 1t8 of that list.
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! Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a`not in my neighborhood you don'Y issue. Yes, we like the open space.
Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land focked lot
couid not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look out at the
24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the back remain
patatabie. It's kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right to
access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
famity housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We ofEer
alternatives later.
As you review the permitted uses in the zoning law you will note that all non single
family residential uses are all socially benefiting items fike churches, schools,
libraries, transitional housing, battered women and children residences, hospices,
etc. Even Cluster development was there to provide more green space. But as
noted elsewhere that also required compatibility and safety.
We are offering reaf acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
! Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
Our community council is on record as strongly agreeing with the principles
espoused in the Metropolitan councils regional blueprint cal{ing for decrease in
urban sprawl and an increase in redevelopment of St. Paul sites. This community
councii is also on record as opposing this particular development
This proposal is not a good example of complying with that policy. We feel the
pressure is misplaced. We know the Mayor's office wants development of over 600
sites within the City. In off record comments we know that PED has been `nice' to
this developer. There is a push to get this redevelopment process going. But I listed
possible examples in the letter. Those sites �end themselves to a coordinated
planned community with no one to complain. They exist now. Just Iook across the
freeway to the Wiider Site.
I woufd also like to say as a manager of various programs that I feel the best way to
a successful program is early simpfe successes, to make sure in your very first
implementations to have everything well thought out, with special attention, to not
use the easier method o4 seeing what happens and then make corrections as you
get into the bulk of a program. No one in the neigh6orhood or community council is
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arguing with the policy. Just that this is the wrong way to start it, whether in our
neighborhood or anyone eise's neighborhood. With over 400 years of investment in
this City we deserve better then this. The City deserves better then this.
! Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some reai serious concems about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or approach is
there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the City's professional
staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting expectations set by that
policy.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question `is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Why do we get vague answers like it as
safe as a driveway to Maryland Avenue, or safety is a relative thing?
Why can't the city address the Parking issue before someone gets killed. Why can't
Staff suggest a variance before a developer asks for it?
How do we manage to get the statement that a vinyl sided 3000 square foot
structure on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no trees worth
$200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and wood
housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards off set
from public streets and Bivd?
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Ms Becker have staff
come and make a definitive statement on whether or not they thinks this is a good
idea and whether or not they thinks it is safe; whether it be traffic, parking or ponds.
to have Ms. Wheelock or staff make the statement that this is a good example of
compfying with Met Council Policy.
If you do approve this proposal please tefl the residents that you have determined i
to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined that it is compatible
with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no possibility of developing
these sites as zoned; and have determined that the cluster development does
preserve and/or increase green space.
! Community Involvement
The community has met many times with Summit Hill Council, with themselves, with
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pianning commission people. We have been asked to give our opinions on plans
that have been changed on us at the last minute. We have sent {etters with issues.
We have asked quest+ons. One of the main reasons cited by the community
council for not approving the the plan was the developers unwillingness to answer
our questions. However we have met with the developer after he was severely
prompted to by the planning commission. However no agreement was ever reached
with the developer.
A partial agreement was reached about the alley. However this agreement was
blown up to the extent that Mr. Field, Chairperson of the Zoning Committee
appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having neighborhood support.
He repeated this position a number of times to the fufl commission.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to al{ of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with a
total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that you, the
City Council address these concerns find them cause for denying what many in the
area feel will lead to the degradation if not destruction of our neighborhood.
! Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right. In our letter we
addressed this issue. It basicalfy was that, because of public records brought to our
attention we have strong doubts as the suitability and ability of Mendota Homes to
develop this site. This was not due to the bankruptcy issues as much as to the
findings by the court that there was substantial evidence of know+ngly making false
oaths and inference of fraudulent intent. An appeals court also found against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professionai capabilities of a developer are questioned and
evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for calming
those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an altemative as we have other
ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that the
performance bond for complying with all the provisions of the site plan review be
expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is within a 18
month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month time table, and
that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the developer or the
owners. We would like the City to explore this or something similar. Again we are
not offering this as an alternative, just something to be done in case our alternatives
are rejected.
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! Alternatives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to ofEer altematives
or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission members
noted for public record `they would never buy it'? Why has it required so much effort
and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition and in all past
renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted earlier, there has not been a proposal to develop as a single family
housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is to do just that on the lot on
Lexington Par4cway, just like everyone eise in the neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns and
statements. Please slow down, please respond to alt of the concerns, please make
sure you have asked all the questio�s and received all the answers.
Before I summarize I like to show this tape prepared by some residents; it was
prepared for one of the initial discussion with the community council.
Tape
We had proposed another video but I'm going to have to ask you to use your
imagination on this one. The video was going to go back and forth between a
picture of the houses in our community, which you have seen, and a picture of a
suburban cul-de-sac with double and triple townhouses all in uniform color and vinyl
and no or little trees, again which I assume most of you have seen before.
In Summary (of a summary)
We feef a major issues is compatibility with the neighborhood. We feel the envelope
of possible interpretations of that requirement has been extremely enlarge and
furthermore pushed in the wrong direction
We feel a major issue is safety in traffic, in parking, and in ponding requirements.
We also feel that the City has not responded adequately or at all to these concerns,
and that you cannot site passing a review process as an adequate addressing of
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direct concerns, especiaNy if those questions are not part of the review process.
We feel issues of alley use is a major safery issue.
We feel a major issue is that cluster deve{opments should lead to increased green
space.
We feei the issues of property vatue, ofi viability of the project, ofi proper
management are important.
We feel there are more acceptable alternatives, development alternative and they
should be the only ones ailowed.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Aftemoon .
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. I'd like to note that almost ali
of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the five
public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown up for at
least one of the five private meetings he�d in various neighbor's homes or rented
community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of �eighbors and a
very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people living next to the
site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed by
both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the foliowing list of comments
however you wili note that we address both those errors and omissions and repeat a
number of comments we have made in the last five public meetings held discussing
ihis issue.
! Property Acquisition
The property consists of finro lots. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked lot
behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surpius county property
for hundreds of dollars. ft was deemed valuefess or near so then because of iYs
unsuitability for development. We are not saying you can't develop property
because it was deemed valusless at some point in its history. We just want to be
clear that there is no major investment or livelihood that we are threatening with
denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of va{ue of their property. It has
accurately been described as valueless in past, people have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
! Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to develop
the p�oQerty under the existing zoning before issuing a special use permit. The
owner has not done this. There has never been a discussion of developing the site
as zoned. The site is zoned single family residential, and the owner has not tried to
put single family residential there. This can happen with no changes, to the
property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen, with some changes, to
the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this concept later.
Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
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development is to preserve and increase green space, to c�uster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
I Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two, not
one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone involved
has aiready reached a minimum proposal to not aliow major increased traffic on the
alley.
All the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have happened
already due to combination of densiry of existing traffic and proximity of the alley
(125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surface 16' wide. This wou{d
require removal of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing structures.
! Existing Property Values
Initiafly some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. It was thought
that if you put new housing worth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an existing old
house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would actually devalue the
existing house. However at one of our private meetings we invited a number of real
estate professionals to speak to us. Two of them inform us this wouid not be the
case. However both were very emphatic that amenities to the neighborhood are
indeed fost, and that their statements on property value were very much contingent
on the proposal being completed and completed correct�y.
However even with this assurance some are stiil fearful. This concern was listed in
this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made this
disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is. I'd like io return to this
issue a bit later.
! Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hiil from
the deve{opment. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has indicated
that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a minimum of two
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schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the very
least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this, no soii
borings have been performed. Instead, siab on grade consiruction has been
p�aposed.
4)The site proposal cails for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane expressway
or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears that
if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving a mess
behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more deviation or
variances, because there will be a need to restore the site into something usable. In
1978 Roger Vik proposed apartment buildings with underground garages. Wil1 this
proposal come back?
! Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states AThe design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood@.
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. 7he onfy reafly compatible item wilf be that they
house people.
You go from a 64' or 90+' by 25' structures with attached garages of 800 sq feet for
a total of 2400 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from
600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple family
housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with yards and
boulevards to a cuf-de-sac with afmost no yard space and most of the trees
removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own unique
characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
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$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a specia! use Qermit that compatibility exists.
Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story structures
with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation of the word
compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non existent one. We
believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word `compatible' is being
stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
! Safety
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of safety,
either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the proposal be
safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionals in municipal tra�c and municipal engineering testify
that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments are on
public record. There has been no conflicting testimony from City Staff, engineering
or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance
from a signa4ized intersection, that it meets Iine of sight requirements, and that it is
as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came from
staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning commission.
Later at another public meeting the same planning commission member, when
quizzed on how informative Public Works was, stated his disappointment in them.
While he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion he was disappointed because
staff would not say directly `it is safe'. We, the neighbors, are equally disappointed
because staff would not say directly `it is unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this
issue later.
/�qain, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal engineering
and municipal traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions. One was very
descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills, distracting
characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff and
they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they could or
woufd not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate ane of these safety hazards by requiring a no left
turn during rush hour traffic sign as you Ieave the development. This inadequately
address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the two hills located
right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to look like a driveway,
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not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no corrssponding effort to
regulate left turns into the site from north bound Lexington Parkway, again causing
an unexpected road blockage for north bound traffic and crossing over south bound
traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason to
condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over decades
and correcting them may not be practicai now.
Storm Water Manaqement
There is a requirement that calis for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements that
are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement being
applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of industrial or business
expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsicaily unsafe in residential areas or in park
areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the developer
seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon this particular
safety issue.
Parkinq On Lexinqton
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington Parkway,
on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing private
property, with the end result being that guest of residents on Lexington end up
parking on Lexington, you wifl afmost for sure be causing a fatafity. Residents have
done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight and observing the
number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents occurred almost every
signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be conducted. This issue has
not been addressed at all by staff because it is a secondary effect of the proposal.
But without this proposal it would not happen at all.
! Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a`not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open space.
Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land focked lot
could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look out at the
24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the back remain
palatable. IYs kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right to
access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
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family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriatefy has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
altematives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usabie by you the decision makers.
! Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development where
the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged and
development within existing highly dense sites is to be encourage. There are plenty
of sites within the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential use. You
have the old Amhoist site between Robert and Wabasha, you have river front sites
in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, you have the Phalen Corridor with
iYs accompanying light industrial. These alone offer the opportunities for 1000's of
residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it worth an
investment by the community at large, you can move on to cleaning up
contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around a little
better, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no problems
with compatibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be planned
sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good example.
The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Council Policy. They
have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of variations of
developing this site including one not significantly different then what you are
looking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at an earlier public
hearing to recommend denial.
The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with this
policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this neighborhood.
We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way of complying with
the Met Councit. Furthermore, the process we have been subjected to appears to be
somewhat willy nilly. Tne deve►oper has offered many variations of basicafly the
same probfem proposaf but changing it enough at the last minute to make it a
difficult moving target. For the �ast change, offered 5 minutes before the zoning
committee meeting, no prepared comments from the residents were possible. Even
complete staff approval had to be estimated by the staff present at the meeting. This
did not appear to be the way to decide a community's future.
! Tough Questions, Tough Answers
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We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue ofi the Met Councii Policy. No where in staff's answers or approach is
there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the City's professional
staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting expectations set by that
poficy. However they are willing to state off the record they do not think so, and in
fact think this is a bad example of complying with that policy. But there is no
departmental procedure for getting that opinion to you. There is no where an
avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a vacuum from the City on what
appears to be the major impetus for granting approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question `is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative word because we have an official stance of neutrality and we can't risk
having a lawyer sue us because our professional opinion may make it hard for them
to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at the
storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance.
However aiso note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibifity of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of Parks
was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't make the
decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park staff to ask
them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing them without
being requested they run into problems with setting precedence, etc. and that isn't
easy to explain or deal with.
Is staff really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 2400 square foot townhouse
with attached garages on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no
trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and
wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards off
set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the policy
makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this direction. We are
aware that there is a pluralistic society of tax payers and citizens out there and that
they all have their concerns and needs, But we also feel tough answers to tough
questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we with our 400 years of
investment in this community, are members of that society also.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
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engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks this is a
good idea and whetfier or not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter come over
and make a defnite statement that ponding sites in residential neighborhoods are
needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement that this is a good
example of compfying with Met Councif Policy.
As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru all the various public hearings cited by advocates of this
proposal, both at the District Council and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal please tell the residents that you have determined it
to be safe for traffc, parking, children; have indeed determined that it is compatible
with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no possibility of developing
these sites as zoned; and have determined that the cluster development does
preserve and/or increase green space.
! Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Councif three times on this
issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multipte variations that were not viewed ahead ofi time. In each case the
neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and even
citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him earlier.
Along with a lack of response at the format meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them. The
first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning committee
where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and negotiate, he no
longer was willi�g to do so.
However after members of the zoning commission stated they would view favorably
the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did discuss
alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the developer. An
agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues, mainly the alley
access, but nowhere near all issues. Betore the neighborhood coordinator could get
alf the responses firom the rest of the neighborhood, the developer had called back
and said there were problems. It was with this information we attended the zoning
committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the fufl Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson of the
Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having
neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to the full
commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood support was the
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issue of not using the a11ey outletting to St. Clair Avenue by future owners or guests
af future owners of the town homes. Pub{ic record from the second of the two dates
for the public hearing in front of the zoning committee show that the Matherns never
came to an agreement on any other issue, that they found problem with the
proposed agreement before it could be presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with a
total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that you, the
Ciry Council, pay attention to these findings and find them cause for denying what
many in the area feef will lead to the degradation 'rf not destruction of our
neighborhood.
! Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viabi�ity and about property values and the
rea� estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted by a Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the documents
as `The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage Corporations for two
lots they purchased and that the debt was a IittVe over half a milfion. This occurred in
October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot o4 people. However in 1992
there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or delayed their creditors, failed
to produce adequate financial records, and knowingly made false oaths. It appears
that it was further found that the courts held that substantia� evidence to support an
inference of fraudulent intent by the Matherns. An appeal court found the Matherns
failed to set forth affirmative admissible evidence to rebut the considerable
circumstantial evidence of fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attomey
chose to not have the full material released in a package to planning commission
members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their decision making
capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting attorney was included.
Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this decision by the City Attorney.
As noted above staff and now commission members are Iimited as to what they can
say or do.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned and
evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for calming
those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we have other
ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that the
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perFormance bond for compiying with all the provisions of the site plan review be
expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is within a 18
month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month time table, and
that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by eitfier the developer or the
owners. We would like the City to explore this or something similar. Again we are
not offering this as an altemative, just something to be done in case our alternatives
are rejected.
! Altematives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer alternatives
or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission members
noted for public record `they wauld never buy iY? Why has it required so much effort
and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition and in all past
renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as is
now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is
to do just that on the lot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone else in the
neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns and
statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please make
sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
This is our petition to the C'ity Council of St. Paul from the following residents:
HELEN H CURRIER
1116 ST. CLAIR Avenue
LOT 9, Rueth's Addition
DAVID A& HELEN L SCHULTZ
1120 ST. CLAIR Avenue
LOT 10, Rueth's Addition
� JOEL M& Charlotte PATROS
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� 1126 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 11, Rueth's Addition
� A�ICE L PETERSON
� 1130 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 12, Rueth's Addition
� MARGARET H MARKS
� 1134 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 13, Rueth's Addition
� SUSAN E WAGNER
� 1138 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 14, Rueth's Addition
� Craig & BERYL P BOE
� 1142 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 15, Rueth's Addition
� JAMES W& LISA R SWYERS
� 1146 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 16, Rueth's Addition
� Milka P& Todd Thoresen
� 1152 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 17, Rueth's Addition
� SETH M ANDERSON
� 1156 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� E 40 FT OF LOT 18, Rueth's Addition
� MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
� 1160 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� WfTH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
� E 40 FT LOT 18, Rueth's Addition
� PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BLANK
� 243 S. Lexington Parkway
j N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT 1,
� Rueth's Addition
� CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
� 251 S. Lexington Parkway
� EX N 1 O FT, LOT 2, Rueth's Addition
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KEITH LANE CURTNER
259 S. Lexington Parkway
LOT 3, Rueth's Addition
� ALBERTA L BINKER
� 263 S. Lexington Parkway
� EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, Rueth's Addition
� HELENE G OSTROW
� 269 S. Lexington Parkway
� S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
� Rueth's Addition
� Christopher WALKER
� 273 S. Lexington Parkway
� LOT 6, Rueth's Addition
ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
279 S. Lexington Parkway
EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, Rueth's Addition
BEVERLY Y DUNBAR
283 S. Lexington Parkway
S 2 FT OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOT 8,
Rueth's Addition
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council ot St. Paul,
Good Afternoon .
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I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. I'd like to note that almost
all of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the
five public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown
up for at least one of the five private meetings held in various neighbor's homes
or rented community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people
living next to the site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington
Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the following list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
• Property Acquisition
The property consists of two lots. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked
lot behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surplus county
property for hundreds of dollars. It was deemed valueless or near so then
because of it's unsuitability for development. We are not saying you cari t
develop property because it was deemed valueless at some point in its history.
We just want to be clear that there is no major investment or livelihood that we
are threatening with denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of value of their property. It
has accurately been described as valueless in past, people have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
• Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to
develop the property under the existing zoning before issuing a special use
permit. The owner has not done this. There has never been a discussion of
developing the site as zoned. The site is zoned single family residential, and the
owner has not tried to put single family residential there. This can happen with
no changes, to the property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen,
with some changes, to the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this
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concept Iater.
Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase gxeen space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
• Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two,
not one, dead end alleys that #urthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone
involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
All the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have
happened already due to combination of density of e�cisting traffic and proximity
of the alley (125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surface 16' wide. This
would require removal of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing
structures.
• Existing Property Values
Initially some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. It was
thought that it you put new housing worth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an
existing old house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would
actually devalue the existing house. However at one of our private meetings we
invited a number of real estate professionals to speak to us. Two of them inform
us this would not be the case. However both were very emphatic that amenities
to the neighborhood are indeed tost, and that their statements on pmperty value
were very much contingent on the proposal being completed and completed
correctly.
However even with this assurance some are still fearfizL This concern was listed
in this leiter for this reason. And to lead into 4he next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is. I'd like to return
to this issue a bit later.
• Viability of the Pmposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
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developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has
indicated that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a
minimum of two schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the
very least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this,
no soil borings have been performed. Instead, slab on grade construction has
been proposed.
4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears
that if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving
a mess behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more
deviation or variances, because there will be a need to restore the site into
something usable. In 1978 Roger Vik proposed apartment buildings with
underground garages. Will this proposal come back?
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. The only really compatibie item will be that
they house people.
You go from a 64' or 90+' by25'structures with attached garages of 800 sqfeet for
a total of 2400 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging
from 600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
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The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of tfie
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house tarm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,OOQ to
$I00,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a special use permit that compatibility
exists. Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation
of the word compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non
existent one. We believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word
'compatible' is being stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
• Safety
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the
proposal be safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use
permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionats in municipal traffic and municipal engineering
testify that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments
are on public recard. 'There has been no conflicting testimony from City Staff,
engineering or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as
to distance from a signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight
requirements, and that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came
from staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning
commission. Later at another public meeting the same planning commission
member, when quizzed on how informative Public Works was, statea his
disappointment in them. Whi1e he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion
he was disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is safe'. We, the
neighbors, are equally disappointed because staff would not say directly `it is
unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this issue later.
Again, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal
engineering and municipai traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions.
One was very descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills,
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distracting characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff
and they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they
could or would not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a n o
left turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development_ This
inadequately address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the
Ywo hills located right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to
look like a driveway, not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no
corresponding effort to regulate left turns into the site from north bound
Lexington Parkway, again causing an unexpected road blockage for north bound
traffic and crossing over south bound traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason
to condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over
decades and correcting them may not be practical now.
Storm Water Management
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements
that are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement
being applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of industrial or
business expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas or in
park areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the
developer seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon
this particular safety issue.
Parking On Lexin�ton
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington
Parkway, on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing
private property, with the end result being that guest of residents on Lexington
end up parking on Lexington, you will almost for sure be causing a fatality.
Residents have done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight
and observing the number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents
occurred almost every signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be
conducted. This issue has not been addressed at ail by staff because it is a
secondary effect of the proposal. But without this proposal it would not happen
at all.
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• Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don t' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a'no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. ALso this is not depriving the owner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons tor denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
• Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development
where the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged
and development within existing highly dense sites is to be encourage. There are
plenty of sites wifhin the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential
use. You have the old Amhoist site befween Robert and Wabasha, you have
river front sites in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, you have the
Phalen Corridor with it's accompanying Iight industrial. These alone offer the
opportunities for 1000's of residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it
worth an investment by the community at large, you can move on to cleaning
up contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around
a little better, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
'They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no
problems with compatibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be
planned sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good
example.
The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Council Policy.
They have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of
variations of developing this site including one not significantly different then
what you are looking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at
an earlier public hearing to recommend denial.
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The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with
this policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this
neighborhood. We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way
of complying with the Met Council. Furthermore, the process we have been
subjected to appears to be somewhat willy nilly. The developer has offered many
variations of basically fihe same problem proposal but changing it enough at the
last minute to make it a difficult moving target. For the last change, offered 5
minutes before the zoning committee meeting, no prepared comments from the
residents were possibie. Even complete staff approval had to be estimated by the
staff present at the meeting. This did not appear to be the way to decide a
community's future.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good exampie of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy. However they are willing to state off the record
they do not think so, and in fact think this is a bad example of complying with
that policy. But there is no departmental procedure for getting that opinion to
you. There is no where an avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a
vacuum from the City on what appears to be the majar impetus for granting
approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why cari t a citizen get an answer to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative ward because we have an official stance of neutrality and we cari t risk
having a lawyer sue us because our professional opinion may make it hard for
them to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at
the storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance.
However also note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibility of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of
Parks was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't
make the decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park
staff to ask them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing
them without being requested they run into problems with setting precedence,
etc. and that isn t easy to explain or dea] with.
Is staff really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 2406 square foot townhouse
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with attached garages on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and
no trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco,
and wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed
yards off set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the
policy makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this
direction. We are aware that there is a pluralisiic society of tax payers and citizens
out there and Ehat Ehey all have their concerns and needs. But we also feel tough
answers to tough questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we
with our 400 years of investment in this community, are members of that society
aIso.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
dne suggestion we would Iike to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks
this is a good idea and whether or not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter
come over and make a definite statement that ponding sites in residential
neighborhoods are needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement
that this is a good example of complying with Met Council Policy.
As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru all the various public hearings cited by advocates of
this proposal, both at the District Councii and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal please te11 the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Council three times on
this issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multiple variations that were not viewed ahead of time. In each case
the neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and
even citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him
earlier�
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Along with a lack of response at the formal meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them.
The first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning
committee where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and
negotiate, he no longer was willing to do so.
However after members of the zoning commission stated they would view
favorably the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did
discuss alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the
developer. An agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues,
mainly the alley access, but nowhere near all issues. Before the neighborhood
coordinator could get all the responses from the rest of the neighborhood, the
developer had called back and said there were problems. It was with this
information we attended the zoning committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the full Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson
of the Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as
having neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to
the full commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood
support was the issue of not using the alley outletting to St. Clair Avenue by
future owners or guests of future owners of the town homes. Public record from
the second of the two dates for the public hearing in front of the zoning
committee show that the Matherns never came to an agreement on any other
issue, that they found problem with the proposed agreement before it could be
presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council, pay attention to these findings and find them cause for
denying what many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not
destruction of our neighborhood.
• Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Eariier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted by a Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the
documents as 'The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage
Corporations for two lots they purchased and that the debtwas a little over half a
million. This occurred in October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot of
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people. However in 1992 there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or
delayed their creditors, failed to produce adequate financial records, and
knowingly made false oaths. It appears that it was further found that the courts
held that substantial evidence to support an inference of fraudu�ent intent bythe
Matherns. An appeal court found the Matherns failed to set forth affirmative
admissible evidence to rebnt the considerable circumstantial evidence of
fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attorney
chose to not have the full material released in a package to planning
commission members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their
decision making capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting
attorney was included. Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this
decision by the City Attorney. As noted above staff and now commission
members are lunited as to what they can say or do.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond for complying with all the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to explore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our altematives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for pubIic record 'they would never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition
and in all past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as
is now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first
alternative is to do just that on the tot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone
else in the neighborhood has.
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Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road_
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narzow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
This is our petition to the City Council of St. Paul from the following residents:
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�� I DAVID A& HELEN L SCHULTZ
I 1120 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 10, RUETH'S ADDITION
I HELEN H CURRIER
, I 1116 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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I JOEL M& CHARLOTTE PATROS
I 1126 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 11, RUETH'S ADDITION
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I ALICE L PETERSON
I 1130 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 12, RUETH'S ADDITION
I MARGARET H MARKS
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I SETH M ANDERSON
I 1156 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I E 40 FT OF LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
I MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
�I 1160 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I WITH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
,�E 40 FT LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BLANK
243 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT 1,
RUETH'S ADDITION
I CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
I 251 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
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I 259 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 3, RUETN'S ADDITION
I ALBERTA L 81NKER
I 263 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, RUETH'S ADDITION
1 HELENE G OSTROW
I 269 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
i RUETH'S ADDITION
z� �Z/��v, I CHRISTOPHER WALKER
f 273 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 6, RUETH'S ADDITION
I ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
� 279 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, RUETH'S ADD�TION
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I BEVERLY Y DUNBAR
I 283 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 2 FT OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOT 8,
I RUETH'S ADDITION
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Afternoon. My name is Pat Byrne and I reside at 243 S. Lexington Parkway.
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. However as a courtesy, /�
the letter was provide to yot�ef re hand and Its been indicated that it has been d�ii,/�, JYL
read by the Council Members.�mportant to the signers of that letter that it is
read or listened to as this is their first opportunity to speak to a public
�.�C representative in this process. Anyway I'm going to summarize that letter
t���"' instead of reading it. However I will read the summary. (I'm not sure if it is the
�4 ll reading or the length that bores people and puts them to sleep). I'd like to note it
is a very concerned group of neighbors and a very united group of neighbors that
��,� / share in this appeal. It consists of 100°lo of the people living ext to the site and
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We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Pianning Commission Members. In the following list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
I apologize to the signers if this seems briefer then it should, and I apologize to
the Council if it seems longer then it should.
• Property Acquisition,
The site was acquired for very little money back in the 70's. It was deemed
worthless then and has been deemed almost worthless since then by both the
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sent out. It was not acquired as surplus county property.
• Minirnum Requirements
There has never been a discussion of developing the site as a single family
residential site and therefore not requiring anyone to go thru this process.
Ostensibly one of the reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
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I'd note that one of the requirements is to minimize alterations of the natural
features and topography. The plan proposes the removai of most if not all of the
trees on this site.
• Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for mos of residents �. It is two,
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involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
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happened already due to combination of density of existing traffic and proximity
of the alley (125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
As noted those people right next to the proposed 150,OQQ units feel their 6�,�0�
would not sell due to contrast. However two real estate agents, while
acknowledging that amenities are reduced, property values should not be
affected. However they noted this is only true if done right and if done
compietely as the plan indicates.
However even with this assurance some are still fearful. This concern was listed
in this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is.
• Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued bythe railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development.
3) T`here has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soiis or at the
very least an abandoned dump site.
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4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) There are fears the developer will walk if the units don't sell even though he
has assured us they will sell like hotcakes. And then what will the City allow to
happen on the site to salvage it
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
We think there is a mistake here. And this is one of the major issues to
everyone in the neighborhood. The only really compatible item will be that they
house people.
You go from a 90' by 25' structures with attached garage of 800 sq feet for a total
3�0 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from 600 square feet
to 900 square feet. The attached garage is bigger then some of the houses
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
• Safety
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Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
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Another requirement is that 'The use will not be detrimentai to the existing
character of the development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger
public health, safety, and general welfare'
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at ail. This is the
second major issue with the neighborhood.
Traffic
The public record contains assessments by engineering professionals that the
proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe, and there has been no
conflicting testimony from City Staff. In fact when asked directly if they could say
the neighbor's assessment was incorrect we got a negative answer.
The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance from a
signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight requirements, and that it is as
safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it i�, a�s safe
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tks an aside to the letter I'd like to point out t�at surviving the review process is
not a statement from City Staff that�� is safe. It is a statement from staff that it
met distance from signalized intersection standards and it met line of sight
standards. That is all.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a no
left turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This�a�t
addresses about 20°fo of the traffic safety issue and was done with no consuitation
at all with traffic professionals.
Storm Water Mana ement
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
p\�proposed developed site. As a Water resource professional I have found this to
��' be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas where children are�or in axeas where
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One end result of the proposal, whether directiy or indirectly, will be a definite
increase in Parking on Lexington Parkway. Parking on Lexington will lead to
� j many traffic accidents and I will easily state, traffic fatalities. There has been no
� comment or review or contribution to discussion on this item from anyone
within the City.
In the list of major accident areas throughout the city, Lexington Parkway
already occupies 1/8 of that list.
• Not Itt My Neighborhood!
This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a'no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn t a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
As you review the permitted uses in the zoning law you will note that all non
�,, � single family residential uses are ail socially benefiting items like churches,
�`• i, schools, libraries, transitional housing, battered women and children residences,
�v �� hospices, etc. Even Cluster development was there to provide more green space.
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We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers_
Council Policy On Urban Development
Our community council is on record as strongly agreeing with the principles
espoused in the Metropolitan councils regional blueprint calling for decrease in
urban sprawl and an increase in redevelopment of St. Paul sites. This
community council is also on recard as opposing this particular development
This proposal is not a good example of complying with that policy. We feel the
pressure is mispiaced. We know the Mayor's office wants development of over
600 sites within the City. In off record comments we know that PED has been
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'nice' to this developer. There is a push to get this redevelopment process going.
,�ut I listed possible examples in the letter. Those sites lend themselves to a
/ coordinated planned community with no one to complain. They exist now. Just
`� look across the freeway to the Wilder Site.
/ I would also like to say as a manager of various programs that I feel the best way
to a successful program is early simple successes, to make sure in your very first
implementations to have everything weil thought out, with special attention, to
� not use the easier method of seeing what happens and then make corrections as
� you get into the bulk of a program. No one in the neighborhood or community
� council is arguing with the policy. Just that this is the wrong way to start it,
whether in our neighborhood or anyone else's neighborhood. With over 400
years of investment in this City we deserve better then this. The City deserves
better then this.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some reai serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Why do we get vague answers like it as
safe as a driveway to Maryland Avenue, or safety is a relative thing?
Why cari t the city address the Parking issue before someone gets killed. Why
cari t Staff suggest a variance before a developer asks for it?
How do we manage to get the statement thaX a vinyl sided 3000 square foot
structure on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no trees
worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and
wood housing with 60� to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards
off set from public streets and Bivd?
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Ms Becker have
staff come and make a definitive statement on whether or not they thinks this is
a good idea and whether or not they thinks it is safe; whether it be traffic, parking
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or ponds. to have Ms. Wheelock or staff make the statement that this is a good
example of complying with Met Council Policy.
If you do approve this proposal please tell the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
� cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• _Community Involvement
The com unity has met many times with Summit Hill Council, with
� themselves, with planning commission people. We have been asked to give our
� opinions on plans that have been changed on us at the last minute. We have
sent letters with issues. We have asked questions. One of the main reasons
cited by the community council for not approving the the plan was the
� developers unwillingness to answer our questions. However we have met with
the developer after he was severely prompted to by the planning commission.
� However no agreement was ever reached with the developer.
A partial agreement was reached about the alley. However this agreement was
� blown up to the extent that Mr. Field, Chairperson of the Zoning Committee
appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having neighborhood
support. He repeated this position a number of times to the full commission.
i result of ali this is that we are united yet in our opposition to ail of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council address these concerns find them cause far denying what
many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not destruction of our
neighborhood.
• Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right. In our letter
we addressed this issue. It basically was that, because of public records brought to
our attention we have strong doubts as the suitability and ability of Mendota
Homes to develop this site. This was not due to the bankruptcy issues as much as
to the findings by the court that there was substantial evidence of knowingly
making false oaths and inference of fraudulent intent. An appeals court also
found against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue.
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We had proposed another video but I'm going to have to ask you to use your
imagination on this one. The video was going to go back and forth between a
picture of the houses in our community, which you have seen, and a pictuxe of a
suburban cul-de-sac with double and triple townhouses all in uniform color and
vinyl and no or little trees, again which I assume most of you have seen before.
In Summary (of a summary)
We feel a major issues is compatibility with the neighborhood. We feel the
envelope of possible interpretations of that requirement has been extremely
enlarge and furthermore pushed in the wrong direction
We feel a major issue is safety in traffic, in parking, and in ponding
requirements. We also feel that the City has not responded adequately or at all to
these concerns, and that you cannot site passing a review process as an adequate
addressing of direct concerns, especially if those questions are not part of the
review process.
We feel issues of alley use is a major safety issue.
We feel a major issue is that cluster developments should lead to increased
green space.
We feel the issues of property value, of viability of the project, of proper
management are important.
We feel there are more acceptable alternatives, development alternative� and
they should be the only ones allowed. '
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However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond fox complying with all the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished byeither the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to expiore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our alternatives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We realize we can`t stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
Why has there been so much probiem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for public recard 'they would never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Secause in its current rendition
and in all past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted earlier, there has not been a proposal to develop as a single £amily
housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is to do just that on the lot
on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone else in the neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narxow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the pubiic hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
Before I summarize I like to show this tape prepared by some residents; it was
prepared for one of the initial discussion with the community council.
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PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
SAINT PAUL CTTY COUNCIL
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Properry Owners within 350 feet;
I Representatives of Planning District 16
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BYRNE, PATRICK
Appeal the Planning Commission approval of a 10 unit cluster development.
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City Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City Hall-Court House
15 West Keliogg Blvd; Saint Paul, MN 55102
HOW TO PARTICIPATE 1. You may attend hearing and testify.
2. You may send a letter before the hearing to the Zoning Section of the
Planning and Economic Development Department, 25 West Fourth St,
1100 City Ha11 Annex, Saint Paul, MN 55102. .
3.. Participation is not required. This is your notice of public hearine.
ANY QUESTIONS
Call Kady Dadlez of the Zoning o�ce at 266-6582 or your District Council
Representative at 222-1222 with the following information:
Zoning File Nutnber 97-313
Zoning File Name MENDOTA HOMES APPEAL
Mailing Date 12/10/97
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David & Helene Schultz
1120 Saint Clau Avenue
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55105
612-292-1096
January 13, 1998
St. Paul City Council
c/o Zoning Section of PED
25 West Fourth Street
1100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear City Council Members:
Re: Mendota Homes Appeal
Zoning File Number 97-313
We are adjoining property owners to the proposed Mendota Homes project and we are sending this letter to
oppose the special use permit that was granted by the Planning Commission. We hope that this letter will
be given all the weight that oral testimony would haue received.
We oppose the granting of the special use permit for all of the reasons stated in the letter endorsed by all of
the adjoining property owners in the area. However, we do wish to reinforce several points.
We believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing Yo give sufficient attention to both the traffic safety
problems and the incompatibility of the proposed project with the current architecture and land use of the
neighborhood. First, placing additional traffic on either Lexington or Saint Clair Avenues will be a safety
hazard that should be considered. Second, the proposed development, with large two and three unit
structures, will be significantly larger than any of the eusting units in the area. Hence, the new Mendota
Homes units will dwarf and hover over the e�sting houses. Overall, it is our believe that the Planning
Commission failed to give due regard to these factors.
Second, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing to permit certain testimony to be placed
on the record for their consideration. By that, neighbors repeatedly sought to enter into the record their
concern about the soil conditions on the land upon which this proposed development might be erected. The
neighbors have legitimate concerns that because of the soil conditions construction of buildings on this
property would perhaps endanger the public health or othenvise damage or be detrimental to neighboring
property. In effect, because the Commission refused to allow testimony on this subject the Commission
abused its discretion and failed to consider facts that may be critical to a fu11 and proper evaluation of the
application of a special use permit for this project.
Third, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing to consider all of the information submitted
to them as a matter of public record. By that, Tim Sullivan had submitted court information to Beth Bartz
regarding John Mathern's financial difficulties with other similar housing projects. Ms. Bartz failed to pass
along to the Planning Commission this information. We believe that the Planning Commission should have
reviewed this information and made its own decision to its relevancy. The failure to consider information
submitted for public record, as well as the failure to pass this information along to the Planning Commission
is an error of law. In sum, we hope that City Council considers this information when it reviews the Mendota
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Homes project since it may speak to the capacity of the developer to execute and complete this project.
Fourth, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in giving weight to facts and testimony that are not
relevant to the statutory requirements specific to the granting of a special use permit. By that, during the
public hearing Susan Kimberly testified to a Metropolitan Council determination that St. Paul needed to
intensify its Iand use and increase the number of housing units in the city over the ne� iwenry years.
Similarly, in its deliberations, the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission referred to her testimony_
While Ms. Kimberl�s testimony may have some merit, neither the Met Council's report nor overall housing
needs in the city are relevant to the granting of a special use permit for this property. Specifically, no where
in §64.300 of the St. Paul I,egislative Code does it permit a regional or general concern for land development
to count as a factor for allowing a special use permit for a specific property. Instead, one must look only to
the applicable statutory conditions of the code as they apply to a specific parcel of property. To the e�ent
that the Planning Commission considered irrelevant information such as this in its decision the Commission
erred, and we urge you to consider the request for a special use permit for this project based solely upon the
statutory relevant factors and facts considering this property.
Fifth, at no point did the Planning Commission consider other alternative and less intensive uses than the
proposed development. Instead of considering a ten unit cluster development some regard should be given
to a less intense but otherwise compatible use for the property, e.g., several single family units.
Overall, for the reasons specified above, as well as for those listed in the joint letter by all the neighbors, we
believe that City Council should overturn the Planning Commission decision and vote to deny a special use
permit for this project.
However, were City Council disposed to supporting this project, we would ask that you modify the current
special use permit in several ways. First, the overall number of units should be reduced to eight or nine units
such that there will not be either a double unit directly on I.exington or a triple unit located anyv✓here in the
project. A triple unit is clearly incompatible with the existing neighborhood and would be very out of size and
character with the neighborhood. Second, by allowing only one unit on I.exington it will protect the house
ne� to it.
Third, by reducing the number of units to eight or nine it will less the intensification of use, preserve green
space, and make the project less of a traffic safety problem. Fourth, we would like to see the developer post
a bond guaranteeing that the project will be completed as specified. What the neighbors fear most is a project
that is started and never completed, leaving a partially undeveloped hazard in the neighborhood.
Please note, in making this request for a reduction in the number of units the developer will claim that he
has already compromised from his initial plan of fifteen units. However, the original proposal for the plan
was twelve units and subsequently the developer increased his request to fifteen. Hence, a compromise of
eight or nine units to preseroe the neighborhood does not seem unreasonable.
Thank you very much for considering our concerns.
Sincerely,
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Helene and David Schultz
Jauuary 13, 1998 (S:S7pm)
David Schultz
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SAINT,F' L, MINNESOTA
Committee: Date
WHEREAS, Mendota Homes, in Zoning File No. 97-207, made application to the Saint
Paul Plauniug Commission for a special condition use permit under the provisions of Saint Paul
Legislative Code Section 60.413(13) and 64300(d) for the purpose of constnxcting a 10 unit
cluster development on undeveloped property located on Lexington Pazkway south of St. Clair,
and legally described as and;
WHEREAS, the Zoning Committee of the Plamiing Commission on October 30, 1997,
and on November 13, 1997, after having provided nofice to afFected property owners, held public
hearings at which all persons present were given an opportunity to be heard and submitted it
recommendafion to the commission. The commission, by its Resolution No.97-78, adopted on
November 21, 1997, decided to grant the applica6on based upon the following findings and
conclusions:
1. The applicant has a purchase agreement for the property proposed for development. Ten
dwelling units are proposed: 3 buildings of two units, 1 building of three units, and 1
building of one unit. Access to the homes and gazages is proposed to be entirely from
Lexington Parkway via a private street. There is no alley access.
2. Chapter 60.413(13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments subject to the
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There shall be a minimum of two (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units are planned.
The units shall be attached, common wall, single family, with no unit intruding on
the vertical airspace of any other unit.
This condition is partially met. Nine of the units are attached, common wall,
single-family, with no unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit.
One unit is a single-family home and this condition (b) is modified for that home
in finding 4, below.
c. The parcel shall meet the lot area required per unit in the zoning dish-ict.
This condition can be met. The lot azea, including half of the alley is 107,380.5
square feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit, exceeding the 5,000
squaze feet per unit requirement.
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The parcel shall have a minimum frontage of eighty (80) feet on an improved
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This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet of frontage on Le�ngton
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The structure shall conform to the schedule of regulations for height, lot
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This condifion is met. As proposed, the development meets the requirements for
height, lot coverage and pazking prescribed by the zoning district. Eight visitor
parldng spaces will be provided in addition to a double garage for each unit.
Zoning enforcement has deternuned the front yazd to be on Lexington, and the
rear yazd to be the farthest northwest corner of the pazcel. The plan appears to
meet all setback requirements.
The design shall be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood.
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood
which consists of a mixture of 1, 1-1/2, and 2 story shuctures with gabled and
hipped roofs. Materials used in the surrounding neighborhood include stucco,
clapboazd, metal siding, and composite shingles. Windows are a mixture of
double hung and fixed "picture" windows.
The proposed units are 1 and 2 stories in height with intersecting gable roofs.
(See drawings attached.) The applicant has not specified which units will be one
or two stories, but rather proposes that decision be made with the potential buyer.
Exterior material is proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, while larger
than the typical home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design, is broken
up by a central gabled bay. Porches and double hung windows provide other
design elements similar to houses in the azea.
Individual lots, buildings, sireet and parking areas shall be designed and situated
to minimize alteration of the natural features and topography.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for the site.
The grading plan also includes construction of a storm water pond near
Le�ngton. However, the overall topography of the site, including the slope into
the railroad corridor, would not be disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the
slope azea of the site would remain.
h. Applications for cluster deveZopment shall include site plans, including
landscaping and elevations and other fnformation the planning commission may
request.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan, landscape plan, and
building elevations along with a written descripfion detailing the specifics of the
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The extent, Zocation and intensity of the use wi11 be in substantial compliance with
the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan and any applicable subarea pZans which were
approved by the city council.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to flus matter. There
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The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990's recotnmends "expansion of housing
opportunities for middle and higher income households where this mazket is or
can be addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this proposal will be priced at
$139,900 - $200,000, addressing middle income populations.
The use will provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic congestion in
the public streets.
A private street will provide access to the units and a11ow emergency vehicle
traffic and visitor pazking. The Fire Deparhnent has determined this access to be
sufficient for emergency access.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to Lexington raising
concerns about traffic cutting through the alley to avoid the intersection at St.
Clair and Lexington. The current proposal does not ea�tend the existing alley and
does not connect the alley to the private street, eluninating the ability far traffic to
cut through.
The use will not be detrimental to the existing character of development in the
immediate neighborhood or endanger the public health, safety and general
welfare.
This condition is met. The nuxnber of new dwelling units can be accommodated
by exisring facilities and services provided by the city. The private street will
accommodate emergency vehicles and all requirements for water, sewer and storm
water have been met.
The use will note impede the normal and orderly development and improvement
of the surrounding property for uses permitted in the district.
This condition is met. The surrounding property is fully developed. The new
housing will serve as a buffer between the single family homes on St. Clair and
Lexington and the raikoad - Ayd Mill Road corridor.
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district in which it is Zocated.
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intent and purpose of such special condifion and is consistent with health, morals and
general welfaze of the community and is consistent with reasonable enjoyment of
adjacent property."
The building fronting on Lexington Pazkway is a stand alone single-family home that
does not meet the common wall condition of (c) above and is hereby modified. Siting a
single-fanuly home rather than a two-fanvly home is more in keeping with the single-
family homes adjoining and to the north along Lexington Parkway. Including the single
family home in the cluster development adds the hazdship of sepazate description and
easements for a single-family lot.
WHEREAS, pursuant to the provisions of Saint Paul Legislarive Code § 64.206, Pat
Byrne, duly filed with the City Clerk an appeal from the determination made by the plauning
commission, requesting that a hearing be held before the City Council for the purpose of
considering the actions taken by the said commission; and
WHEREAS, acting pursuant to § 64.206 through § 64.208, and upon norice to affected
parties a public heazing was duly conducted by the City Council on January�; 1998, where all
interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and �Y
WIIEREAS, the Council, hauing heazd the statements made, and having considered the
application, the report of staff, the record, minutes and resolution of the zoning committee and of
the planning commission, does hereby;
RESOLVE, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul does hereby reverse the decision of
the planning commission in this matter, based on the following findings of the Council:
The Council finds that the planning commission erred with respect to fmding 2( fl and
2(b) in that: (1) the proposed design is not compatible with the surrounding neighborhood as the
exterior design characteristics of the units aze out of character with the neighborhood; and (2) the
overall design of the proposal is more like a suburban Woodbury styled development which is
not in keeping with the surrounding neighborhood. The Council fiu•ther finds with respect to
finding 3(b) that the ingress and egress to Lexington Avenue does not minimize traffic
congestion in the public street and, in fact, adds to traffic congestion; and
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2 BE IT FURTAER RESOLVED, that the appeal of Pat Byrne be and is hereby granted;
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6 to Pat Byrne, the Zoning Administrator and the Planning Commission.
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INFORMAiION(EXPWM
OFFICE OF TE� CITY ATTORNEY ����� �
PegBir75 CiryAnomey
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Co7emme, Mayar
Civi[ Division
400 City H¢!L
IS West KelZogg Blvd
Saint Paul, Mi�n+esota 55702
Telephone: 612 266-87Z0
Facsimile: 612 298-5619
Apri121, 1998
Nancy Anderson
Council Secretary
31Q City Hall
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Appeal by Pat Byrne
Zoning File No. 97-207
January 27, 1998
Dear Ms. Anderson:
Attached please fmd a s3gned resolution memorializing the decision of the Saint Paul City
Council in the above-entitled matter. Would you please place this matter on the Council Consent
Agenda at your earliest convenience.
If you haue any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
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Peter W. VJarner
Assistant City Attorney
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Enclosure
DEPARTMENT OF PLFvNYING
& ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
crrY oF sanvr Pavz.
Norm Calemarz, Mayor
December 8, 1997
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Dear Ms. Anderson:
Divirion of P(mviing
25 A'estFau�th Street
Saint Pau1, MNSSIO2
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Telephone: 6I2-266-6565
Facsimi[e: 612-228-3374
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Monday, December
22, 1997 for the following appeal of a Planning Commission decision approving a special condition use
permit:
Appellant: PAT BY12NE
File Number: #97-207
Purpose: Appeal a Planning Commission decision approving a special condition use permit to
allow cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units. (Applicant: Mendota Homes)
Address: x� Lexington Parkway South (southwest quadreant of Lexington and St. Clair)
Legal Description of Property: See Survey in File
Previous Action:
Planning Commission Action: Approval with conditions; vote: 16-1, November 21, 1997
Zoning Committee Recommendation: Approval with conditions; vote: 4-0, November 13, 1997
My understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda for the December 1�,
1997 City Council meeting and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger.
Please call me at 266-6580 if you have any questions.
Sincere
Beth Bartz
City Planner
cc: File #97-207
Mike Kraemer
Donna Sanders
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The Satnt Paul �1ty Counctf wi11 mnduct a public hearing on Monday, December 22,
1997 at 4:39 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, Third Floot. � City Hall-Court Hous� W
consider ihe appeat of Pat Byme, to a dectsion of ihe Planning Commission approving a
spectal conditlon use pernvt to allow ciuster development with ten dweliing nnits
(applicant: Menddta Hoates) at ao�c Ix�dngYOn Parkway South [southwest quadrant of
Lerrtc�gton and St. Clair Avenues). - � � -
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DEPARTMENT OF PT.ANNING
& ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CTTY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Co[eman, Mayor
Dec i2-
Prfaq 2i, 1997
Ms. Nancy Anderson
Secretary to the City Council
Room 310 CiTy Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Division af PlanrrLtg
25 West Fowth Street
SaintPaul, MN55102
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Te[epharze: 6I &26Cr6565
Facsimile: 612-228-33I4
RE: Zoning File #97-207: Appellant: PAT BYRNE
City Council Hearing: December 22, 1997 430 p.m. City Council Chambers
PURPOSE: Appeal a planning commission decision approving a special condition use permit to allow a
cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units on property located at the southwest quadrant of
Lexington Pazkway South and St. Clair Ave.
PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION: APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, 16-1
ZONRVG COMNIITTEE RECOn�IIV1ENDATION: APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, 4-0
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: APPROVAL
SUPPORT: One person spoke. Two letters received in support.
OPPOSITTON: Six persons spoke. Eight letters were received in opposition. The Summit Hill
Association voted to oppose the special condition use permit.
Dear Ms. Anderson:
PAT BI'RNE has appealed the decision of the Saint Paul Planning Commission to approve a special
condition use permit to allow a cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units on properry located at
the southwest quadrant of Lexington Parkway South and St. Clair Avenue. The Zoning Committee of
the Saint Paul Planning Commission held a public hearing on the request on October 30, 1997 and
November 13, 1997. The applicant addressed the committee on both occassions. At the close of the
public hearing on November 13 the committee voted 4-0 to recommend approval of the permit with
conditions. The Planning Commission upheld the Zoning Committee's recommendation for approval on
a 16-1 vote on November 21, 1997.
This appeal is scheduled to be heard by the City Counci] on December 22, 1997. Please notify me if any
member of the CiTy Council wishes to have slides of the site presented at the public hearing.
Sincerely,
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Ken Ford
Planning Administrator
Attachments cc: City Council members
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APPLICATtON FOR APPEAL
Department ojPlanning and Economic Development
Zoning Section
II00 Cit}� Hall Annex
15 West Fourth Street
Sainr Paul, Mh' S5102
266-6589
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PROPERTY Zoning File
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TYPE OF APPEAL: Application is hereby made for an appeal to the:
i� Soard of Zoning Appeals City Council
under the prov'tsions of Chapter 64, Section 2�? Paragraph � of the Zoning Code, to
appeai a decision made by the �L�`�J�Ji �C_ C�runi iSI� �
on ! t � 2 1� 9 7 , 19� File number. j�7 — Z� �
(date o decis on)
GROUNDS FOR APPEAL: Explain why you feel there has been an error in any requirement,
permit, decision or refusal made by an administrative o�cia{, or an error in fact, procedure or
finding made by the Board of Zoning Appeals or the Planning Commission.
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Attachment to
Application For Appeal
Appellant Patrick Byrne
243 S. Lexington Parkway
St. Paul, Minn 55105 266-6171
Property Mendota Homes, File 97-207
Location Southwest quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair
Lot 19 Rueths Addition
This is an appeai to the City Council of a decision made by the Planning Commission
on Friday, November2lst, 1997, #97-207
Grounds for Appeal:
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED and Public Works made errors in facts, procedures and findings
in assessing the safety issues involved with traffic, parking, and storm water
management. There is sufficient unrefuted public testimony to indicated different from
their findings.
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED made errors in facts, procedures and findings in assessing the
compatibility of the project with the surrounding neighborhood. There is sufficient
unrefuted public testimony to indicated different from their findings.
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED and Pubiic Works made errors in facts, procedures and findings
in assessing whether or not the project complied with ali provisions of granting a
special use permit for a"cluster development".
Signature: �
Date: 1215 7
City Agent:
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city of saint paul
pianning commission resolution
file number 97-�$
�te November 21, 1997 _
WHEREAS, MENDOTA HOMES, file #'t 97-207, has applied for a Special Condition Use under
the provisions of Section 60.413 (li) and 64300 (d) of the Saint Paul Legislative Code for the
purpose of constructing a 10 unit cluster development on undeveloped property located on
Lexington Parkway south of St. Clair, as legally described in the file; and
WHEREAS, the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission on 10l30l97 and i ll13l97 held
public heazings at which all persons present were given an opportunity to be heard pursuant to
said application in accordance with the requirements of Section 64.300 of the Saint Paul
Legislative Code; and
WHEREAS, Saint Paul Planning Commission, based on the evidence presented to its Zoning
Committee at the public hearing as substantially reflected in the minutes, made the following
findings of fact:
The applicant has a purchase a�reement for the property proposed for development. Ten
dwelling units are proposed: 3 buildings of two units, 1 building of three units, and 1
building of one unit. Access to the homes and garages is proposed to be entirely from
Lexington Parkway via a private street. There is no vehicular access from the alley to the
site.
2. Chapter 60.413 (13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments subject to the
following conditions:
a. There shall be a minimum of hvo (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units aze planned.
b. Tlze units shall be attnche�t, common wall, single family, with no unit iniruding on the
vertica! airspace of any other unit.
This condition is partially met. Nine of the units are attached, common wall,
single- family, with no unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit. One unit
is a single-family home and this condition (b) is modified for that home in finding 4,
below.
moved by Field
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c. TJze parcel slzall meet t/te lot area required per ur:it in tJ:e zoning rlistrict.
This condition can be met. The lot azea, including half of the alley is 107,380.5 square
feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit, exceedin� the 5000 square feet per unit
requirement.
d. T/ze parcel s/zallltave a mi�aitsutm frontage of eigl:ty (80) feet o�r an improved street.
This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet of frontage on Lexington Parkway.
e. The structure shall confortn to the schedtde of regulatio�:s for I:ei;kt, !ot coverage,
setbacks and parking.
This condition is met. As proposed, the development meets the requirements for height,
lot coverage and parking prescribed by the zoning district. Eight visitor parking spaces
will be provided in addition to a double garage for each unit. Zonin� enforcement has
determined the front yard to be on Lexington, and the rear yard to be the farthest
northwest corner of the parcel. The pian appears to meet all setback requirements.
f. TI:e design skall be compatible witle tlee srerrour:ding neigltborltood
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood which
consists of a mixture of I, 1-1/2, and 2 story structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
Materials used in the surrounding neighborhood include stucco, clapboard, metal siding,
and composite shingles. Windows are a mixrizre of double hung and fixed "picture"
windows.
The proposed units aze 1 to 2 stories in height with intersecting gable roofs. (See
drawings attached.) The applicant has not specified which units will be one or two
stories, but rather proposes that decision be made with the potential buyer. Exterior
material is proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, while larger than the typical
home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design, is broken up by a central gabled
bay. Porches and double hung windows provide other design elements similaz to houses
in the area.
g. Individua! lots, bui[dings, street and parking areas shall be designed and situated to
minimize alteration ofthe natnrt�7features anrl topograplzy.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for the site. The
grading plan also includes construction of a storm water pond near Lexington. However,
the overall topography of the site, including the slope into the railroad corridor, wouid not
be disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the slope azea of the site would remain.
h. Applicafons for c[uster clevelopment shall include site plans, including Inndscaping
and elevations and other informtztion t{ze planning commission may reqzcest.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan, landscape plan, and building
elevations along with a written description detailing the specifics of the development.
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3. Section 64300 (d) of the zoning code requires that before the planning commission may
grant approval of a principal use subject to special conditions, the commission shall find
that:
a. Tlze extetzt, Zocatiorz atttl intetzsity of tF:e use tvi11 be in substaritial compliarxce witk the
Saint Pau! Comprelzensive Plan and any applicable si[barea plans w{zicJz were
approved by t/te city cot�ncil.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to this matter. There are no
applicable small area plans for this area.
The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990s recommends "expansion of housing
opportunities for middle and higher income households where this market is or can be
addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this proposal will be priced at $139,400 -
$200,000, addressing middle income populations.
b. Tlte use wilt provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic congestion in the
pttblic streets.
A private street will provide access to the units and allow emergency vehicle traffic and
visitor parking. The Fire Department has determined this access to be sufficient for
emergency access.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to Lexington raising concerns
about traffic cuttin� through the alley to avoid the intersection at St. Clair and Lexington.
The current proposal does not extend the existing alley and does not connect the alley to
the private street, eliminating the ability for traffic to cut through.
c. The use wi![ not be detrimental to t/te existing cJiaracter of development in the
immediafe neighbor/:ood or endanger t1:e public healt/i, safety and genera[ wetfare.
This condition is met. The number of new dwelling units can be accommodated by
existing facilities and services provided by the city. The private street will accominodate
emergency vehicles and all requirements for water, sewer and storm water have been met.
d Tlze use will not impede the norn:al an�l orderly development and improvement of the
surrounding property for uses permitted in the district
This condition is met. The surrounding property is fuliy developed. The new housing
will serve as a buffer between the single family homes on St. Clair and Lexinb on and the
railroad - Ayd Mill Road corridor.
e. The use shall, in all otJzer respects, conform to t1:e applicab[e regulatians of t)te district
in which it is located
This condition is met.
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(4) Section 64300 (t� of the zoning code states: "The plannin� commission, after public
hearing, may modify any or all special conditions, when strict application of such special
conditions would unreasonably limit or prevent otherwise lawful use of a piece of property
or an existing structure and would result in exceptional undue hardship to the owner of such
proper[y or structure; provided, that such modification will not impair the intent and purpose
of such special condition and is consistent with health, morals and general �n�elfare of the
community and is consistent with reasonable enjoyment of adjacent properiy °'
The building fronting on Lexington Parkway is a stand alone single-family home that does
not meet the common wall condition of (2) c, above, and is hereby modified. Siting a single-
family home rather than a two-family home is more in keeping with the singie-family homes
adjoining and to the north along Lexington Parkway. Including the single family home in
the cluster development avoids the hardship of separate description and easements for a
singie-family lot.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Saint Paul Planning Commission, that under
the authoriTy of the City's Legislative Code, the application for a Special Condition Use to allow
a 10 unit cluster development on the undeveloped pzoperty located on Lexington Parkway south
of St. Clair is hereby approved, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the cluster development be constructed in conformance with the plan dated 11/13/97,
a part of the file;
2. That there be provided a physical barrier to prevent vehiculaz access from the alley to the
site, as determined by site plan review staff;
3. That the area between the alley and the cluster development be landscaped to buffer
nearby residences, as determined by site plan review staff;
4. That the applicant grant an easement of sufficient size that allows emergency and service
vehicles to cross the corner where the rivo aileys meet;
5. That a no left turn sign be posted by the applicant, prohibiting left turns onto Lexington
Park�vay northbound.
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Saint Paul Plannina Commission
City Hall Conference Center
15 Kellogg Boulevard West
A meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Saint Paul was held Friday, November 21, 1997, at
830 a.m. in the Conference Center of City Hall.
Commissioners Mmes. Duarte, Engh, Faricy, Geisser, Nordin, Treichel, and Wenct, and Messrs.
Present: Chavez,. Field Jr., Gordon, Kong, Kramer, Mazdell, Nowlin, Sharpe, Vaught and
Wilson
Commissioners Ms. *Maddox and Messrs. *Johnson and *McDonell
Absent:
*Excused
Also Present: Ken Ford, Planning Administrator; Jean Birkholz, Beth Bartz, Kady Dadlez, Nancy
Frick, Tom Harren, Nancy Homans, Patricia James, Roger Ryan, and Lucy
Thompson, Department of Planning and Economic Development staff.
T. Approval of Minutes of November 7, 1997
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved fo approve the minutes of November 7, 1997;
Commissioner Gordon seconded the moiion which carried unanimously on a voice vote.
II. Chair's Announcements
First Vice Chair Goxdon officiated the meeting in Chair McDonell's absence.
First Vice Chair Gordon announced that Commissioner Maddox' mother passed away; her
funeral was yesterday.
III. Planning Administrator's Announcements
Mr. Ford announced that on Wednesday, November 19, the City Council passed a resolution
requesting that the Planning Commission advise the City Council within 120 days of its
intentions with respect to updating the Fire and Medical Emergency Services Chapter of the
Comprehensive Plan. Staff will be working on recommendations to bring to the Commission.
N. Zoning Committee
#97-207 Mendota Homes - Special condition use permit to allow a 10-unit cluster development
at the southwest quadrant of Lexina on and St. Clair. Beth Bartz, Southwest Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved approval of the requested special condition use permit
to allow a 1 D-unit cluster development at the southwest quadrant of Lerington and St Clair
subjeet to conditions:
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I. ThaL the cluster development be constructed in conformance with ihe plan dafed
II/13/97, a part of the ftle;
2. That ikere be provided a plrysical barrier to prevent vehicutar access from the atley to
the site, ar determined by tlte site plan review staff,•
3. That the area between the alley and the cluster development be landreaped to buffer
nearby residences, as determined by the site plan review staff,•
4. That the applicant grant an easement of sufficient size that allows emergency and
service ve/:icles to eross tlze corner where the two aZleys meet;
5. That a no left turn sign to posted by the applicant, prolzibiting left turns onto
Lexington Parkway northbourxd.
Commissioner Field informed the Commission that the Zoning and Land Use Committee of the
Summit Hill Association and the District 16 Planning Council recommended denial of this
request, but it was based on an eazlier proposal than the one viewed last Thursday.
There was numerous testimony in opposition to the project presented at the Zoning Committee
meeting. The developer and the neighborhood met several times to try to compromise.
Commissioner Nordin asked to hear more about the discussion that took place at the Zoning
Committee meeting. She said that she feels this is a good use of land and would like to vote in
favor of it, but the amount of pavement on the site disturbs her as well as no use of the alley
which would eliminate three driveways and a few turn arounds.
Commissioner Vaught noted that he had the same concerns as well as a safety concem going into
the Zoning Committee meeting. He assured Commissioners that what they see before them
represents a compromise after listening to all of the various positions. Even though this plan is
not particularly perfect, the Committee felt that it could get the job done.
First Vice Chair Gordon asked if the Department of Public Works took a position on this plan?
Commissioner Vaught replied that they spoke about the issues, but were not particularly helpful.
Commissioner Nordin stated that she could not vote in favor of this case. She believes that the
Commission should stand their ground more firmly. Although she said she thinks iYs a
wonderful use of land, no alley access is not a good use.
Commissioner Field said that he also sits on the Housing Task Force with Commissioner Nordin
and he understands her concems and support of the project. However, he feels that this issue is
one that may have to be dealt with more often in the future. In filling up the City's green space
with housing, there's a need to be sensitive to the surrounding neighbors, and compromises will
have to be made.
Commissioner Nordin commented that this neighborhood knew that it was always a possibility
that this open land would be developed. This plan is inconsistent with any existing planning
within the City. She feels that this is not a legitimate compromise to be made for housing.
Commissioner Vaught noted that at the Zoning Committee meeting, Susan Kimberly made the
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comment that in looking to try to meet the needs for new housing in this City, compromises will
have to be made.
Commissioner Nordin stated that she understands why the road and the cul-de-sac are there
because taking tfiat out would tum the alley into a street. She said she is having a hard time
accepting is the four driveways off of it that add all the pavement and all the little turn arounds
you need to get back to that driveway. She stated that those four driveways can be eliminated
with just the alley access; that would leave green space between the houses.
Commissioner Field repeated that the result here is a compromise that is trying to accommodate
all of the conflicting interests of the parties.
The motion on the floor to approve fhe reques[ed special condition use permit to allow a IO-
unit cluster development at the southwest quadrant ofLe.rington and St. Clair carried on a
vote of I6 to I(Nordi�r).
#97-258 US West Communications - Special condition use permit to allow a 90' cellular
telephone antenna at 426 Fairview Avenue North. Nancy Homans, Northwest Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved approval of the requested special condition use persnit
to allow a 90' cellular telephone anlenna at 426 Fairview Avenue Nortl:.
Commissioner Field noted that the Merriam Park Community Council voted to not support the
special condition use permit.
Commissioner Field referred to a memo dated November 20, 1997, which states that the
switching gear will be housed in structures near the antenna. This makes it a different situation
than we the Zoning Committee understood at the time of the vote. It is not viewed as germane to
the actual height of the antenna itself. In addition, there were documents provided in connection
with the pole itself that showed certain landscaping around the antenna and other structures
related to this. There was some concern expressed as to whether that landscaping would be there
in view of the change.
MOTION: Commissdoner Yaught moved to amend the original motion to include a site plan
review; the motion was seconded by Commissioner Wencl which carried unanimously on a
voice vote.
The amended motion on the floor to approve the requested special condition use permit to
allow a 90' cellular telephone antenna af 426 Fairview Avenue North carried unanimously on
a voice vote.
#97-259 US West Communications - Specia] condition use permit to altow a 90' cellular
telephone antenna at 1669 Arcade Street. Patricia James, Northeast Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Fie1d moved approval of the requested special condition use permit
fo allow a 90' celiula� telephone anienna ai I669 Arcade Street, subject to appropriate
screening approved by site plan review staff, carried unanimously on a voice vote.
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MINUTES OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE
CITY COUNCTI, CHAMBERS, SAZNT PAUL, MINNESOTA OI3 NOVEMBER 13, 1997
PRESENT: Mmes. Faricy and Wencl; Messrs. Field, Kramer and Vaught of the
Zoning Committee; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mmes. Bartz,
Frick, Homans, James and Sanders and Mr. Ryan of PED.
ASSENT: Chavez
Gordon, excused
Time: 4:20 - 5:45 p.m.
The meeting was chaired by Litton Field, Chairperson.
MENDOTA HOMES• southwest quadrant of Lexington and St C1aiY• #97-207• Snecial
Condition Use Permit: To allow a 10 unit cluster development.
Beth Bartz, PED, Southwest Quadrant, reviewed that this matter was heard on
Oc[ober 30 and laid over for two weeks to this meeting to allow a Department
of Public Works representative to attend this meeting to respond to concerns.
Tom Kuhfeld from Public Works was present at the meeting to respond to
questions. Ms. Bartz reported that the applicant and representatives of the
neighborhood aonvened and discussed the proposal during the interim. The
neighborhood presented the applicant with two options: A� To have the units
exclusively use the private drive and not be accessed via the alley; or B) If
the units were to be accessed from the alley, that the applicant agree to
improve and maintain the alley in perpetuity. There were also additional
conditions which were outlined in the November 13 letter from David Schultz
who represented the neighbors, as well as correspondence and a revised site
plan from the applicant. The revised site plan is not the applicant's
preferred site plan, however they will do it if they need to. These items
were distributed at the meeting and are included in the case file.
Commissioner Vaught asked for confirmation that the Mathern reaction to
Options A& B was the proposal which includes on the western most part of the
site, a 3-unit building as opposed to a 2-unit building, and includes a single
unit building on the Lexington end of the site and still includes 10 units.
Ms. Bartz responded that was the Mathern response to one of the neighbors'
requests that there only be a single unit on Lexington Avenue, as opposed to�a
duplex. The neighborhood was requesting then, that the total number of units
included in the development be reduced to 9 units, and Ms. Bartz reported the
Matherns' wish to keep the number of units at 10, and to accommodate that a
third unit was added to one of the buildings on the site.
Ms. Bartz noted that staff has had some concern with the proposed site plan
about the additional driveways and how the revised site plan cuts up the siCe.
Tom Beach, LIEP, site plan review, has reviewed the site and feels there is an
alternative to access to the site that would access all of the units off of
Lexington Parkway, but would e3iminate some of the need for a driveway.
Ms. Bartz distributed a copy o£ these comments.
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Tom Kuhfeld, Department of Public Works, was available to respond to
questions.
Commissioner Vaught reviewed concern with a proposal that provides ingress and
egress primary to all or some o£ the units, onto Lexington, has to do with the
topography of Lexington from St. Clair to Ayd Mill Road. He noted speed of
traffic in this location, and said that although there is a signal
intersection on St. C1air that as you cross St. C1air you can't see the
ingress/egress point. Noting concern over the amount o£ tra£Eic on Lexington
and the safety concerns of an additional access road, he asked Mr. Kuhfeld to
elaborate on the thinking of Public works as it related to the. possibility of
using alleys, which he noted is not unprecedented in the city.
Mr. Kuhfeld, Department of Public Works, noted that he had discussed this
matter with the trafEic engineer and recognized the valid concerns. However,
he noted that the situation is not that different from many other similar
situations in Saint Paul, i.e. driveways and unsignalled streets, e.g.,
Maryland Avenue. Mr. Kuhfeld reviwed that the Lexington Street frontage is
the only street frontage that the proposed property has, and said that until
and unless the City were to purchase the right-of-access that the applicant
could not be denied that access. Further, it was his position that where a
property has both alley and street frontage that they ought to have access to
both.
Commissioner Vaught noted that access to Lexington initially was not what the
applicants were seeking, but that their first choice was to primarily use the
alley for access, but were told by Public Works staff that was not possible.
FIe asked iE the proposed site were looked at as two parcels, it being
subdivided, with the front parcel including just the £rontage on Lexington
Pkwy., the back parcel wouldn't have any right or access to Lexington Pkwy.
Vaught contended that other than the fact that the alley doesn't have a name
and does not allow for address numbers off of the alley, he asked what
rationale the Department has beyond that the department has for not having the
primary access to the proposed site being the alley, as opposed to Lexington.
Mr. Kuhfeld responded that their primary responsibility is to fulfill the
Legislative Code that is given to them through ordinances of the City Council,
and he noted that one such ordinance requires an improved street, sewer and
water, or a house number is not issued. He said that a waiver may be granted
to those conditions, with the order of importance being: 1) the sanitary
sewer, 2) water and 3) street frontage. It was noted that the first two are
in place, and Kuhfeld said that the private road gives them something which is
comparable to street frontage and addresses would be given off of Lexington.
He said that in putting in the private road, they would be doing something
allowed in other areas and does not place an added burden on the City for
maintenance, i.e. plowing.
Commissioner Vaught asked that if the point of ingress/egress to the property
was not on Lexington Parkway, that the safety concerns that he raised above
would not be an issue. Mr. Kuhfeld responded that those concerns would be
eliminated, however it would affect the safety concerns in the alley and
direct its access to St. Clair.
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Commissioner Vaught reviewed that exceptions do exist to the general rule o£
not having an address off o£ an unimproved street or an alley to indicate that
- this situation is not unique. He asked what tests Public works uses in order
to a11ow such an exception, and name the alley and assign street numbers to
it.
Mr. Kuh£eld responded that the alley is not a platted street. He said he
believed the City could turn the proposed alley into aa of£icial street with
all o£ the rights and responsibilities, however he said that would be a
different matter than what is before the committee, and would require a
process o£ its own.
Commissioner vaught established from Mr. Kuhfeld that he was aware of places
where egress and ingress was off of an a11ey.
John Mathern, Mendota Homes, the applicant, spoke. Mr. Mathern reviewed that
since the October 30 meeting that time has been spent reviewing the site plan
and a meeting was held with the neighborhood. He reviewed that the
neighborhood presented them with Options A& B. He noted that concerns raised
at the meeting which the applicant tried to address, were that two units would
be built on Lexington Pkwy. next to a single-family one-level house, with
their primary concern thaC the proposal be reduced to one unit. Mr. Mathern
agreed that if he could do that by revising their plan that he would.
Secondly, there was concern of the alley, and that if the alley were improved
that Mendota Homes would plow and maintain the alley. Mr. Mathern said that
on behalf of Mendota Homes and the townhouse association that he could not
obligate the association to maintaining the entire alley and plowing the
entire alley with no cost to the neighborhood in perpetuity. Mendota Homes
did agree a£ter meeting with the neighborhood that they would put a proposal
together to see if the goals that they wished to accomplish could be achieved.
This being reducing the density on Lexingtan by allowing only one unit to be
built on Lexington; and could all ingress/egress be on Lexington and not share
the alley with the neighborhood at all. Mr. Mathern reviewed that a proposal
was put together quickly and given to the neighborhood, and after having had a
chance to review it themselves, Mendota Homes has decided that it is not a
proposal that Mendota would be in favor of because of the amount of asphalt in
both the cul-de-sac and the private driveways necessary. A copy of this site
plan was distributed.
Mr. Mathern reviewed that their preferred plan is the plan reviewed on October
30, with part of the traffic load onto the alley; part onto Lexington; and the
bringing of the cul-de-sac off of Lexington. He reviewed that they received
an additional alternative from Mr. Beach, LIEP, which shows coming in with
their road off of Lexington and then paralleling the alley with their own
private road. Their concerns with proposal were that the private road would
be right next to the public alley and the difficulty in keeping maintenance
separate. Mendota Homes could not support that proposal.
Mr. Mathern asked £or the committee to support the plan with 10 units, with
half of the traffic on Lexington and half the traffic on the alley. If
committee support of their preferred plan wasn't possible, Mendota Homes had
their engineer take Che plan that had all of the traffic on Lexington and
revise that to something with less parking and asphalt on it. This revision
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was circulated at the meeting. Mr. Mathern said that as a compromise they
would accept this proposal which loads all of the traf£ic onto Lexington, does
not share the a11ey with the neighbors, and also has one unit on Lexington and
keeps the proposal at 10 units. Mr. Mathern briefly reviewed the alternative
site plan proposal.
There was some discussion regarding other possible scenarios to configuration
which were ruled out as infeasible. Commissioner Vaught said he would be
hesitant to cut off access to residences that back onto an alley, to that
alley, as he didn�t see the sense, £airness or equity in it. The problem he
saw was to go so far as to establish the primary or only access to those
properties to be off of the alley, but given the alternative proposal by
Mendota Homes, he could accept that.
Commissioner Faricy said she felt that units 8, 9 and 10 as laid ou[ in the
preferred alternative was too congested and asked whether Mr. Mathern would
consider reducing the number of townhouses to 9 units. Mr. Mathern responded
that they are firm with the number 10, and noted that their original proposal
called for 14 or 15 units, and this represents a compromise on density. He
said it is the only 3-unit on site and said that with respect to townhouses it
is rather low in density as most townhouses go 4-6 units attached.
Commissioner Vaught said he believed the trade-off, that being one unit on
Lexington and the 3-Unit discussed above, was a superior plan, given the
relationship to the existing home on Lexington.
Mr. Mathern noted that by putting only one unit on Lexington it will likely
enable them to widen the roadway at its entrance/exit point.
Commissioner Vaught expressed concern that left turns both on to Lexington and
off of Lexington into the development, materially increases the safety hazard
that exists there, and asked if the applicant would be agreeable to
prohibiting that. Mr. Mathern responded that if restrictions were to be made
that he would prefer that they be limited to certain hours of the day of heavy
traffic.
Pat Byrne, 243 S. Lexington Pkwy., reviewed his prepared comments, a copy of
which are in the case file. Mr. Byrne addressed the most recent proposal with
Che one unit on Lexington Pkwy. He expressed concern that given the change in
the proposal at this meeting, that the community council and those present
with comments at the last meeting were being bypassed in the decisionmaking as
they have not seen the latest information.
Chair Field responded that Peter Warner, Assistant Attorney, advised that it
may be left to the discretion of the committee revisited on those issues, and
that notice was given. He said that frequently there are cases that during
tke course of discussion compromises may be reached.
Commissioner Vaught noted that upon layover at the October 30 meeting that it
was never the intent to go back to the Summit Hill Association, but suggestion
was made, and the opportunity provided to those most immediately a£fected to
take part in the process, and he said he suspected that those who could
participate were able to do that.
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Mr. Byrne asked £or the staff position on the pre£erred proposal of the
applicant. Ms. Bartz responded that there is no staft response to the new
proposal. She indicated that one piece o£ the preferred proposal is not in
compliance with the SCUP, with that being the single unit on Lexington. I£
the preferred proposal were considered for approval by the committee an added
condition would be necessary that that single unit on Lexington be split off
from the rest of the development, as a single, unattached unit is not allowed
as part of a cluster development, and there£ore any revised platting there
would need to be reviewed to ensure that there is an 80 foot frontage
maintained on Lexington Avenue for the rest o£ the development.
Commissioner Vaught asked whether the zoning code allows the committee to vary
that requirement. Mr. Warner responded that Eor the purposes of the SCUP
application that variances can also be taken into consideration. He noted
that section 64.300 subd. f(27 of the Legislative Code, indicates tkat the
planning commission may act as the board of zoning appeals and grant variances
for any regulations of the code related to permits or site plan approval;
which gives them the authority.
Chair Field said that putting that issue aside, and having seen the
applicant's revised proposed plan, whether staff noted any consistencies with
the original staff report that would be impacted by the revision. Ms. Bartz
said that the original stafE report conclusions stand, and that Public Works
stafE has provided input noting that it is not substantively different enough
to affect the sta£f recommendation.
Mr. Byrne spoke to finding 2(f), compatibility to the surrounding
neighborhood, and disagreed with staff and found the revised proposal to be
incompatible with the surrounding neighborhood. He also spoke to the issue
ingress and egress and reviewed that staff has not been able to find that
these are safe conditions and finds the access to Lexington to be unsafe.
Byrne opposed the revised proposal and requested Che committee deny the
request until the neighborhood had an opportunity to review the latest
proposal.
Commissioner Vaught ascertained £rom Mr. Byrne that given a choice oE two
versus one units located on Lexington, that he preferred one unit on
Lexington.
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David Schultz, 1120 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Mr. Schultz
reviewed that the neighborhood did attempt to arrive at a compromise and came
up with two options, Options A and S. Ae reviewed that a neighborhood meeting
did take place with the developer and that they did work out what appeared to
be a compromise, however uneasy, as it wasn't acceptable to a11. Aowever, Mr.
Mathern was to later inform them that he couldn't agree to it. Mr. Schultz
said the "preferred alternative" was new to him and he addressed it. Mr.
Schultz' concerns were addressed in his November 13 letter that was
distributed, which he reviewed, and a copy of which is in the case file.
Concerns included a desire for a good bufEer of trees between the development
and the alley. Concern remains that there be sufficient alley easement for
emergency vehicles and for neighborhood parking. Mr. Schultz noted that the
neighbors who did agree to the compromise liked the proposal of where the
triplex was located on the proposal that was presented to them, and liked the
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idea that it be located further away from other residential structures. One
of the neighbors asked that it be written into the association bylaws that
residents and visitors to Lexington Commons wouldn't use the alley.
In looking at the current proposal, Mr. Schultz said he could not speak £or
the neighbors due to the changes. He expressed concern that the preferred
proposal pushes the triplex closer to the existing homes on the St. Clair
side. He noted that the concerns addressed towards the proposal they
considered over the weekend, the adequate buffer, questions about easements
Eor safety vehicles, etc, still pertain. Mr. Schultz agreed with the single
unit on Lexington and found it to be an improvement.
Mr. Schultz spoke of concern on where the triplex units would be located. Ae
said that when the neighUors compromised that they originally wanted to go for
four double units and a single unit on Lexington. He asked that the triplex
be reduced Co a duplex and the overall units be reduced to nine units.
Commissioner Vaught asked Mr. Schultz to elaborate on the point made by Mr.
Schultz about easements for safety vehicles. Mr. Schultz said that there are
two concerns that the neighborhood had discussed that were agreed upon by the
developer and he said he wished to make sure were konored: 1) he noted the
entrance to the alley and proceeding to where a right hand turn is made to the
east/west portion of the alley Chat goes on Co St. Clair, that it is a very
narrow alley, and the concern is to make sure that there is enough room, which
means to cut into the developer's property a bit for an easement to allow
adequate space for service trucks to get through; and 2) That there be enough
space on the alley to accommodate reasonable parking by residents was also an
issue addressed by the neighborhood that he said Mr. Mathern appeared
sympathetic to.
Commissioner Vaught asked what Mr. Schultz was looking for in terms of what
they don't have currently, in terms of parking in the alley.
Mr. Schultz said the primary issue is the easement for service vehicles. The
secondary issue is that currently some residents do park in parts of the alley
because of the types of garages they have, and the developer seemed to
indicate a willingness to accommodate some kind of room on his property to
address both issues. He noted that residents have concern that the
development would make it difficult for residents to park where Chey have been
parking in the back, and that they would be forced to go out onto the street,
and is an attempt to address what they see as a safety issue.
Commissioner VaughC asked what Mr. Schultz suggested with respect to
bu£fering. Mr. Schultz said that the neighborhood discussion originally
proposed it as a privacy fence. Upon speaking with the developer, it was his
estimation that it would be approximately $20,000 to do, however he did agree
at that time to do a good buffer in terms of a tree landscape buffer to
separate the project from the alley.
Commissioner Vaught received agreement from Mr. Schultz that he would prefer
to see one unit on Lexington instead of two.
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Chair Field requested that Mr. Schultz elaborate on the nature of his
complaints regarding the administrative due process issues he alleged at the
end o£ his letter.
Mr. Schultz reviewed his concerns related to two issues:
1) He reviewed that Tim Sullivan had submitted information for public
record which included a letter and attachments, and he understood that
only the letter and not the attachments, were forwarded to the zoning
committee for its review; and
2) He noted concern that Commissioner Vaught at the October 30 meeting
engaged in what he thought was an ex parte discussion with city staff
on some material. He said that as the zoning committee is a formal
adjudicative administrative hearing that the in£ormation is supposed to
be on the record, with decisions based upon it.
Commissioner Vaught responded that he is not prohibited from making ex parte
comments. He further commented that Mr. Schultz had attempted to draw him
into ex parte comments after that October 30 discussion and that he refused to
be engaged.
Mr. Schultz responded that he had approached Commissioner Vaught only to
inquire as to whether or not public testimony would be accepted at this
meeting.
Keith Curtner, 259 So. Lexington Parkway, spoke in opposition. He expressed
concern over traffic filtering off of St. Clair through the development and
out onto Lexington. He said that it appears that the preferred proposal has
parking or driveway pads in significantly short proximity to the alleyways
that would allow that to happen relatively easily, and asked that be
considered in the committee's recommendations.
Mr. Mathern, Mendota Homes, the applicant, spoke in rebuttle. Mr. Mathern
said that in the meeting held with the neighborhood they did agree that tkey
would allow a widening beyond the extent o£ the a11ey at the corner because
that is where the trucks make the turn and it is difficult. He said that this
could be worked out with staff as to rededicating and widening the alley. Ae
said that they do not agree to provide any parking spaces at that location for
the neighborhood. He noted that the location of the triplex, he believes, is
a matter of preference and that Mendota Homes prefers it as shown in the
preferred proposal. He said that a landscape plan wi11 be provided to the
City which will include trees and shrubs on the site.
Commissioner Vaught asked for clarification as to what is intended with the
widening o£ the alley, deeding the property or providing an easement. Mr.
Mathern noted it is just giving the neighborhood the ability to make the turn.
The public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Vaught moved approval of the special coadition use permit with
the £ollowing conditions:
1) That it be conditioned upon the specific plan that was presented at
this meeting which includes the triplex and it includes less asphalt
then the preceding proposal that included the triplex;
2) That there be no vehicular access from the alley to the site itsel£;
(the intent is that there actually be physical barriers)
3) That there be a suitable landscaping plan £os the area between the
existing asphalt and the alley;
4j That there be some speci£ic resolution o£ the issue o£ the passage o£
safety vehicles and/or other service vehicles acrosa the corner of the
alley;
5) There be required to be posted by the applicant (if appropriate) at
egress £rom the property, a prohibition on left turns onto Lexington
northbound; and
6) That the requirements be varied in line with the code provisions sited
earlier by Mr. Warner, to allow the single unit on Lexington as a parC
of this development without requiring that it be broken off as a second
development.
Commissioner Kramer seconded the motion. The motion carried on a unanimous
voice vote of 4 to �.
Commissioner Wencl was not present for the vote.
Commissioner Vaught noted that he believed that Susan Kimberly's testimony at
the October 30 meeting was valuable. He noted that i£ the proposed property
hadn't been an unusual piece of land that it would have been built on a long
time ago. Vaught said he had some difficulty retricting alley access to
property that's across the alley and has alley access, but was willing Co do
so if the developer was agreeable to it. He reiterated his concern over the
traffic on Lexington. He said he preferred this as to the proposal presented
earlier to the neighborhood, and liked the fact that there is less asphalt and
he finds units 6 and 7 to be closer to the houses on St. Clair then 8, 9 and
10 are in either proposal. He noted that he believes one unit on Lexington is
appropriate.
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Commissioner Vaught, after a recess, revisited the complaint by Mr. Schultz.
He said he believed his behavior to be inappropriately characterized as ex
parte. He said that the allegation that the committee is sitting in some
manor o£ quasi-judicial capacity is incorrect, and said it is an
administrative hearing, which is a recommendation to the planning commission
which either makes the decision in terms of SCUPS or advises the city council
in the case of rezonings. He reviewed that those decisions that are made
finally by the planning commission are subject to appeal to the city council
and that it is at that point that the city council sits in a quasi-judicial
capacity. Ae said that a conversation that he has with a staff person is
never an ex parte contact and he said it was inappropriately categorized as
such, and even if it were it is not prohibited and the only prohibition that
he's aware of in the legislative code dealing with ex parte contacts is that
which prohibits a member of the city council sitting in a quasi-judicial
capacity reviewing an appeal oE a decision of the planning commission from
having contact with the parties.
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Recording Secretary
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MINUTES OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA ON OCTOSER 30, 1997
PRESENT: Mme. Wencl; Messrs_ Chavez, Field, Gordon, Kramer and Vaught of the
Zoning Committee; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mmes. Bartz,
Homans, James and Sanders and Mr. Ryan o£ PED.
ARSENT- Fa, excused
Time: 3:37 - 6:20 p.m. _
The meeting was chaired by Litton Field, Chairperson.
MENDOTA HOMES• xxx Lexinaton Pkwv S(southwest auadrant of Lexinaton and St
Clair: #97-207; Special Condition Use Permit. To allow a 10 unit cluster
development.
Beth Bartz, PED, Southwest Quadrant, reviewed the staff report and presented
slides. Staf£ recommended approval of the special condition use permit based
on findings 1 through 3 of the staff report.
Tom Beach, LIEP, site plan review staff, was present to respond�to questions.
The Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16
Planning Council recommended denial of the request for a special condition use
permit to allow a 10 unit cluster development. A letter stating their
position was distributed.
Seven letters of opposition were received, plus one letter signed by numerous
residents of the community in opposition.
Reference was made to a letter of opposition received from Mr. Sullivan by
Commissioner Vaught, and there was agreement by staff and by the commiCtee's
legal counsel that its contents regarding the applicant's previous history
related to bankruptcy and the like was not relevant to the discussion.
Commissioner Gordon spoke to the width of the alley and asked staff's opinion
with respect to whether the alley would be wide enough to accommodate two cars
at the same time. Mr. Beach responded that presently there is an unpaved
alley and noted that it is quite narrow in a few locations. Ae said that the
platted right-of-way is 20 feet, with the narrowest point when approaching St.
Clair there being a fence on one side and a power pole and trees on the other
side, and he noted that the paved area currently is only about 10-12 feet.
Public Works, A11eys staff, reviewed these measurements, and it was deCermined
that with some modification and paving of the alley it would be possible to
get a 15-16 foot paved strip through the location, where a 16 foot paved alley
is standard and it is not uncommon to have a power pole sticking out a foot
into that area. That would be wide enough for two cars in the summer, and in
the winter months it might just have a single track through there. The
applicant has agreed to pave the a11ey.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether staff has reviewed the concerns addressed by
the Canadian Pacific Railway in their letter of opposition dated, August 27,
1997. Ms. Bartz responded that those concerns have been reviewed. In regards
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to the noise barriers that they are requesting the City does not require that
of any developments along railroad corridors. What the railroad is suggesting
in terms of a berm and a fence, has been reviewed by Mr. Beach and found them
to be inappropriate for the site. Regarding the noise vibrations, this is
something that is also not typically required during City review. If the
committee would choose to do so, staff from LZEP sta£E could examine that
further.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the committee would have the authority to
deal with the various issues addressed by the railroad, i.e. noise, vibration
and insulation from the vibration, and warnings to prospective purchasers
about the associated problems. Ms. Bartz responded that staff has reviewed
the letter from the railroad as protection for the railroad that in the case
they either choose to increase their use of the railroad track that they would
have issued some public statement that potential buyers and the developer
should have been forewarned.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether any meetings have been held with
Mr. Mathern, the developer, and the citizens in the area with concerns to
attempt to reconcile the issues. Ms. Bartz responded that Mr. Mathern has met
with the Zoning Committee of District 16 on three occasions and has o£fered to
meet with a groups of residents of the immediate area which was declined by
those neighbors.
Peter warner, Assistant City Attorney, responded to the question £rom
Commissioner Gordon whether the committee had the authority to deal with any
or all of the issues set forth in the letter from the railroad as stated
above. He said that the committee did not have the authority, and noted that
in reviewing the specific requirements set £orth in the code, that the types
of concerns in the letter are not those concerns that can easily be read into
the language of the two applicable provisions of the code.
Commissioner Gordon further asked whether other City agencies would. Mr.
Warner responded that LIEP, in its site plan review, and the issues looked at
in that process, would likely not get to the noise and vibration issues.
Commissioner vaught asked Mr. Beach whether the issues raised by the railroad
that are relevant considerations are being dealt with at the site plan review
process. Mr. Beach responded affirmatively, and he noted that the issue
regarding the vibration he will discuss with the building code staff to
determine whether there are any rules there.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the applicant has offered to take any
actions with respect to any of these issues. Staff was not aware that they
have.
Chair Field questioned whether steps were taken in the site plan review
process to address potential erosion issues. Mr. Beach responded that as part
of the site plan the applicant will be required to take the standard
precautions for erosion, i.e. silt fences, reseeding the hills on the
embankment that comes up from the railroad track, which is likely the only
place where there are substantial grades where erosion would be an issue.
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John Mathern, the applicant, 23920 Hawthorne Avenue North, Forest Lake, spoke.
He reviewed design renderings that were part of the staff packet. Mr. Mathern
reviewed his first proposal was Eor 15 units on the site and had intended to
come in off of the a11ey on St. Clair. However they were unable to obtain
staff approval on that proposal and revised the proposal, putting in a private
road, a cul-de-sac, which accesses their property off of Lexington Avenue.
The cul-de-sac he said has been reviewed by City staff and found to be
sufficient to a11ow ingress and egress of emergency vehicles, as we11 as the
residential traffic on that property. In addition, he said that in order to
minimize the amount of road traffic on any one particular road they split [he
accessibility to the garages for these residences between the.alley on St.
Clair and Lexington and on the Street o£ Lexington as well. He reviewed that
Lexington Avenue is an extremely busy avenue and accessibility to the property
has been one of the concerns of the neighborhood. However, he made the point
that it is the only road they have and is the access to the property and they
intend to use it. He reviewed that 10 one and two-story townhome units would
be built on the site which he finds to be in fitting with the neighborhood as
the neighborhood consists of a mixture of two-story and one level homes.
Mr. Mathern acknowledged the letter from Canadian Pacific Railway and cited
examples of other townhouse developments they have built adjacent to extremely
noisy roads which have all sold and have had resales as well. He reviewed
that the proposed site is above the Canadian Pacific Railway and are 18-20
feet above the railroad bed itself. It is a tiered site with a major storm
sewer artery along the Canadian Pacific Road which is elevated about i0 feet
above the railroad itself and they come up another 10 feet to the plateau of
their site. He said their road has been staged to be between their
development and the railroad, leaving the units backed away from the railroad
area and back up to the a11ey, which disCances them as far away Erom the site
as possible. Mr. Mathern said that the houses will be built on virgin soils
so the shaking in that area should be minimized. Regarding soil borings he
said that they had yet to be done. The fill that exists on the site is where
their road bed would be along the edge of the ridge. He said that the sites
themselves seem to be sandy soil down about 4 to 6£eet. As they intend for
basements on many of the town homes he said it poses no problem for them.
Upon some rudimentary exploration of the site they found their virgin soil
where the houses would be. He addressed an issue by some of the neighbors
that this site was once a dump site. He said that he was awaiting a call back
from the MPCA, however he said he understood that within Ramsey County there
is a list of between 70-90 closed unlisted dump sites but said that this
doesn't seem to be on it. He said that they have been unable to find that any
contamination ever existed on the site, however such issues have been raised
as we11.
Mr. Mathern spoke to issues related to the alley. Mendota Homes has agreed to
pave the a11ey as a means of ingress/egress £or their residents. He noted
that they have asked for some discussion with the neighborhood to discuss this
matter, however the neighborhood declined. At the last meeCing with the
district council some opposition was raised by the neighborhood over
improvements to the alley for fear that it may increase the level of service
on the alley and it may incur a cost for maintaining the alley in the future.
Mendota Homes however does object to maintaining the a11ey indefinitely at no
cost to the entire neighborhood. He said that they would use an upgraded
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gravel alley if acceptable to staff and to the neighborhood i£ that is more
acceptable to the neighborhood.
Mr. Mathern reviewed that their proposed site has been used as a parking area
for the residents for some time, which has raised concerns in the neighborhood
about future parking availability. He said that had they met with the
neighborhood the neighborhood might have Eound that they could have provided
some parking spaces in the back on the curve where the alley will likely have
to be widened, which would also accommodate the garbage truck�s accessibility.
He summarized that they desire to be flexible, have dropped their density from
15 to 10. He spoke of a number of individuals who had given them reservation
agreements already for the site, who are from the neighboring area who would
like to reside in a townhouse and remain in that neighborhood and he said he
sees their development as compatible with the long-term residential
development o£ the City of Saint Pau1. He said that the town homes would be
in a mid-price range of $139 to $200,000 range, most of them likely being
between $139 -$179,000 range, which seems to be compatible with Saint Paul's
long-term plan for housing in the City of Saint Paul.
Traffic on Lexington. This was another large issue which Mr. Mathern
addressed as having been raised by the neighbors in all of their district
council meetings. He said that the traffic is probably between 15-20,000 cars
per day. However, he said if he adds 10 units with an average of 10 trips per
day with two cars, he didn't feel that those 80 trips per day will
significantly increase the traffic load on that road. He acknowledged that it
will be a problem with access, as Lexington is a rather fast trafficking
street, but no different than what the current residents must deal with as
there are a number o£ driveways currently on Lexington.
Mr. Mathern noted that staff has required that a catch basin at the end of the
alley be included so that the water that is there can drain into their pond,
which they will do.
He reviewed the aesthetics of the exterior of the buildings and their
relationship to the neighborhood. Mr. Mathern circulated a chart which showed
the exteriors o£ the existing one and two-1eve1 homes in the neighborhood and
he said that they feel that their one and two-level town homes fit the
neighborhood.
He summarized that they believe it to be a fairly compatible use for the
property, and that it is generally in keeping with the neighborhood as there
are town homes on the other side of Ayd Mill Road. They believe that the 10
unit development allows for a very nice area with a lot of green space to it.
Commissioner Gordon asked for the current conditions of the two alleys. Mr.
Mathern reviewed that the surface of the north/south a11ey is currently
gravel, however they would asphalt it. They would also pave the east/west
alley. When complete there would be a paved surface of approximately 16 feet
wide and he said that is what would be allowed on a 20 foot wide alley
easement, but he was unable to guarantee that two cars could be next to each
other in passing. He pointed out that in the area entering St. Clair that
there is somewhat of a bottle neck with large trees there, fences and garages
that are an existing condition. He said that the possibility would exist for
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all o£ their traffic to be loaded onto Lexington with nobody on the alley,
however splitting the load appears to them to be sufficient.
Commissioner Gordon asked for Mr. Mathern to respond to a proposal for no
access to Lexington, with all access from the alleys. Mr. Mathern responded
that the City has said that £or them to have addresses that they need a street
and they will not allow the alley to be used as their street.
Commissioner Gordon asked Mr. Mathern to respond to the Railway's suggestion
of a fence or a berm. Mr. Mathern said he was not in favor o£ a fence or a
berm. He noted that they sit 20 £eet above the railroad. He.anticipated that
his residents will consist primarily of single individuals andJor married
couples between 40 to 70 with few children, and no minor children that they
would have to guard against.
Commissioner Vaught noted that the unusual topography raises some particular
questions. He noted that the difference between units 6 thru 10 and the
abutting residential property either on St. C1air or on Lexington, is that the
only means of vehicular access is through the alley as there is no access to
any of those units from either Lexington, St. Clair or the private road, which
in effect turns the alley into a public street. Given that, and that it
wouldn't need to be done to service the vehicular needs of any of the other
abutting properties in that area, he doesn't see the reason why having once
paved the alley that Mr. Mathern doesn't think it ought to be the obligation
of the people who created the need to do that because it is the only vehicular
access to their property, why that ought not to be a continuing obligation.
Mr. Mathern responded that the units that do not have their garages exiting on
to the private road, but on to the alley have a sidewalk that takes them down
to the private road, where they can park on the private road.
Commissioner Wencl asked how much guest parking would be provided. Mr.
Mathern responded that there are 8 parking spaces, with 4 on the end of the
cul-de-sac and 4 where you drive past units one and two. He noted that for
the units on the alley that two cars could be parked in front of each double
garage.
Commissioner Wencl asked Eor the width of the private road. Mr. Mathern
responded that the road will be 2� feet wide, with the a11ey easement being 2�
feet wide with a 16 foot wide asphalt surface.
Commissioner Wencl asked staff what width is required when the Fire Department
issues their regulations for the width of a street, allowing for their trucks
to get in and turn-around. Mr. Beach responded that the Fire Department
typically likes a 20 foot access for emergency vehicles. He said that in this
case the 20 foot street out in front with the cul-de-sac was reviewed by them
and determined to be sufficient. He noted Chat the Fire Department was at the
meeting of this project and the plan presented at this meeting meets the Fire
Department approval.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the Fire Department's approval would be
withdrawn if there was no private road with a 20 foot width and there were
only the alleys to access the homes. Ms. Bartz reviewed that just using the
alleys as they were would not have been sufficient.
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Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Mathern had looked at the possibility of
a regulation that would prohibit right turns only to exit and enter the
development. Mr. Mathern said that those things dealing with health and
safety issues they would take guidance from the City on.
Susan Kimberly, PED, Southwest Team Leader, spoke. Ms. Kimberly noted that
over the past few years there has been an ongoing discussion at the
Metropolitan Council about how to deal with the issue of urban growth and what
the impacts of that growth and those policies were on our community. She
reviewed that the Saint Paul Planning Commission and the City Council took
positions on those issues and made a strong case to limit the overall growth
of the region, and need to take the steps necessary to see that sprawl is
diminished. The Metropolitan Council took a position that limited growth to
some extent, and as a result of that Saint Paul is forecasting an approximate
increase of 500 housing units per year £or the next 20 years. She reviewed as
a point of re£erence, that there was some debate about putting housing on the
Koch Mobil site, and the City Council has instructed PED to develop that 65
acre site for housing, and is currently being proposed to be developed in a
fairly intense fashion with 456 units proposed. If there were 20 sites of
that site available all of the new housing could be put on sites that have
little or no impact on any existing neighborhood, however that is not
possible. When looking at how the City would meet the housing goal it was
realized that it is going to happen in increments as being considered with
this proposal. Ms. Kimberly noted that over time these conversations must be
resolved in favor of additional housing in Saint Paul if the City is to meet
these housing goals.
Chair Field recalled the related discussion by the Planning Commission about
housing and their response to the Metropolitan Council, and asked whether the
proposed site was identified at that time as one of the potential housing
sites. Ms. Bartz responded a map was presented at the Planning Commission
discussion which showed some of the larger sites, as we11 as smaller
undeveloped sites, particularly along the Ayd Mill Road corridor and the 2-35E
corridor which have some potential for development and that the proposed site
would have been included among those.
Commissioner Gordon received confirmation £rom staff that the Department of
Public Works has stipulated that the alleys in question may not be used to
provide a street address for the proposed units, but that access to a City
street must be provided for this purpose. Ms. Bartz reviewed that the only
frontage that the proposed site has is on Lexington Parkway and that during
the site plan review process that Public Works determined that the applicant
could not address all of the properties off of Lexington and required that
they develop a private street.
Mr. Beach further reviewed that in order to build a house in Saint Paul it
must have £rontage on an approved street which has to do with public safety
issues and response to calls. In response to an inquiry, Mr. Beach said that
the Department o£ Public Works has said no to an option to name the alley so
thaC it may be used as a street address to eliminate access to Lexington.
There was some discussion about the different configurations looked at. Chair
Fie1d noted that the cul-de-sac basically constitutes the Fire Department
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access aad is critical in such a discussion.
Commissioner Vaught questioned the rationale that was used by Public works £or
requiring the private road £or the sole purpose of providing the buildings
with addresses, as opposed to,-and juxtaposed with, the obvious hazard o£
dumping that traffic onto Lexington Avenue, either right or 1e£t, given the
hazards. Mr. Beach said that upon review Public Works determined that the
ingress/egress situation was not ideal, but acceptable. He noted that an
option might be to keep the private road to meet the technical requirements
£or addresses and fire access and to have all the cars come in off of the
alley.
Commissioner Vaught asked what the reason was for not allowing the access off
the alley. Mr. Beach said that one of the main considerations was the impact
on the neighborhood, and that this was an alley and shouldn't be the main
access for every unit in the development.
Commissioner Vaught commented that all of the properties using the alley for
access is an inconvenience, however he felt that five of the properties using
Lexington to egress is a hazard.
Ms. Bartz pointed out that if the committee would desire some direct input
from the Department of Public Works that time would allow for this item to be
postponed for two weeks.
Chris Trost, Executive Director, Summit Hill Association, DistricC 16 Planning
Council, spoke in opposition. Ms. Trost read in as testimony, the letter from
District 16 dated October 29, 1997. In summary, the Zoning and Land Use
Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16 Planning Council
recommended denial of the request by Mendota Homes for a Special Condition Use
permit. (A copy of this letter is in the case file).
Commissioner Wencl asked for further explanation of the statement that "The
scale of the town homes is out of proportion with the adjacent homes.° Ms.
Trost responded that the size of the individual unit, hal£ of the footprint of
the unit, is approximately twice the size of many, if not most, oE the homes
that surround the townhome development on both Lexington and on St. Clair.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether District 16 made a proposal that would
resolve each of those issues to the applicant with respect to the issues as
they related to the soil tests, the vibration, the finished widths and the
scale. Ms. Trost said that the issues were raised at each of the meetings
over a 3-month period. She suggested that the overall issue and concern is
that there is a lack of confidence because there are so many details le£t
unanswered.
Ms. Trost comments are as follows:
Scale. Units should be smaller.
Finished width of the alle� Problem with finished width of alley is related
to the density of the proposal. Finished width might be fine the way proposed
if there were fewer units and fewer people using the alley.
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Soil. Looking Eor evidence or confirmation that it is not polluted and that
it is buildable.
Vibration. Concerned about establishing that it would not be unacceptable
vibration as addressed by the Canadian Pacific Railway.
Commissioner Gordon asked if there are existing homes as close to the railroad
tracks as any of the proposed homes would be located. Ms. Trost said that srie
was not aware of any that are.
Commissioner Gordon asked why the citizens declined having a meeting with the
applicant. Ms. Trost was unable to answer that.
Charlotte Patros, 1126 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Ms. Patros
expressed concern that the townhouse development would substantially devalue
her home. She said that although access from Lexington is all that is
available to the site, that it does not make it a safe solution.
Commissioner Gordon commented that typically higher valued homes built nearby
lower valued homes tend to increase the costs of nearby homes and asked for
clarification on this point, with Ms. Patros deferring to another person who
would be testifying. He asked whether Ms. Patros saw any solution to the
development which would accommodate the concerns of the neighborhood and the
applicant's desire to do the project. Ms. Patros said her greatest concerns
relate to the soil conditions and the buildability on the soil and the
stability of the structures when built and their subsequent marketability, and
iE these concerns can be met she believes that a solution can be reached.
Chair Field asked staff who is responsible for the oversight of the
suitability of soils for construction. Mr. Seach responded that would
typically be handled by LIEP when building plans are reviewed by LIEP for
compliance with the building code. If staff had reason to believe there to be
soil issues they would ask for soil tests.
Chair Field noted that as the soil issues are not in the purview of the
committee, but rather by LIEP, that they not be included in the committee
discussion.
Keith Curtner, 259 Lexington, a registered professional engineer, spoke in
opposition. Mr. Curtner identified his primary concerns as those of tra£fic,
soil conditions and commented on faetors he believes will impede project
realization. With respect to traffic he expressed concern that the proposed
project wi11 create a variety of traffic and safety problems of significant
proportions. (Please see a copy o£ Mr. Curtner's prepared testimony in the
case file. A set o£ photos was distributed for review and are also part of
the case file.)
Pat Byrne, 243 S. Lexington Parkway, a registered civil engineer, spoke in
opposition. He noted 100� of resident land owners oppose the project. The
issues addressed in decisionmaking included: Trees. Now serve as a sound and
visual barrier to Ayd Mill Road and railroad to be removed, which also serve
as an introduction to neighborhood traveling north on Lexington; Green space
will be severely diminished; Alley traffic. Mr. Byrne said that the addition
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of 10 more cars in alley wi11 be a sa£ety hazard; Property values. Mr. Byrne
alleged that due to the wide disparity in property values between the proposed
units and the existing homes, that the proposal will decrease the value of
existing homes and make them unsalable. No performance bond on the developer.
Byrne expressed concern over risk oE development £ailing and spoke of the
vibrations that are a factor in the neighborhood and which cause cracks in
walls which he believes are due to the poor soils.
Mr. Syrne addressed the issue of the meeting with Mr. Mathern being declined
by the neighborhood residents. He said that because residents saw no
alteration of the conditions which they opposed, they chose not to meet.
Byrne addressed the issue of eliminating the ingress/egress from Lexington
which he supported. I-Ie reviewed the Fire Department's need for a 90 foot cul-
de-sac £or turn-around in conjunction with the Department of Public Work's
need of a street for purposes of addressing.
Mr. Byrne spoke to Ms. Kimberly's remarks above, and noted that 20 sites may
be available in the city but many have issues of contaminated soil and are
costly to develop, however he didn�t believe it justified development that is
not in character with the existing site.
Commissioner Vaught asked how o£ten the Division of Traffic and Accident does
speed enforcement on Lexington Parkway. Mr. Byrne responded that his £amily
has asked the Police Department to do speeding enforcement along that stretch
but Police said that they cannot do it as there is no good place to put a
radar unit. With regard to traffic, the Traffic Division of Public Works when
doing traffic reviews can only look at two issues: 1) distance from the
signalized intersection and 2) line of sight. A1 Shetka, Public Works,
Traffic, was requested by the residents to review Mr. Curtner's concerns
addressed in his letter, and his only response was regarding the frequency of
accidents on St. Clair, which averaged approximately one accident per month,
which was found to be acceptable. Aowever, Mr. Byrne disagreed, commenting
that it was unacceptable in a residential area. (A copy of Mr. Byrne's
prepared remarks are in the case file).
Commissioner Vaught noted that such issues as green space, and marketability
were not issues relevant to the zoning committee's decision making. He
reviewed that although the footprint of the individual units proposed may be
somewhat larger than some of the smaller existing homes in the neighborhood
that they are not in much variance with the larger homes in the neighborhood_
Commissioner Vaught addressed the alley traffic. He hypothesized that at most
the proposal would generate at most a quarter increase in what is a very low
traffic pattern, and which pales in comparison to that existing on Lexington,
and said that the increase may be a nuisance, but not a hazard as the
Lexington traffic issue is.
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Mr. Byrne responded that this would be 2-3 times the city average use oE an
a11ey. He noted the fact that it is a two-block long dead-end alley, and
there is no on-street parking allowed on Lexington during rush hour.
Commissioner Gordon ascertained from Mr. Byrne that is personal there are 8-10
existing homes on the north/south alley currently using the alley, and 9
existing homes using the east/west a11ey. Mr. Byrne said that no hard numbers
exist for measurement of the traffic in these alleys, but rather personal
observation and impressions.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Byrne was aware of any other access
available to these residents to either Lexington or to St. Clair that the
proposed project could use. Mr. Byrne was not.
Helene Schultz, 1120 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Ms. Schultz spoke
to the following issues:
Al1ey tra£fic. Ingress/egress from the present alley on to St. Clair Avenue,
she indicating that two cars cannot safely pass each other at the entrance at
the same time and noted that the residents using the alley have developed a
system that works for negotiating around one another. Chair Field noted that
the alley would be widened if the project were to proceed.
Regarding the traffic flow through the a11ey, she said the question was not
the total number of cars passing through it on a daily basis, but at what
hours it is most congested, with Ms. Schultz indicating that being during rush
hour, both morning and evening.
Declined invitation to meet with developer. Ms. Schultz indicated Chat Mr.
Mathern notified them in advance of the third Zoning and Land Use Committee
meeting as to what his plan would be and asked for neighborhood support.
Since they didn't support it, and were not asked to come to discuss their
particular concerns, she declined the invitation to meet.
Reasonableness factor. She spoke of the negative views the proposed units
would have, the backs of the homes on St. Clair and from the other view would
be overlooking a railroad, and she questioned their marketability.
Ms. Schultz spoke of her neighbor, Bev, who was present at hearing but had to
leave. She said that the private road is proposed to go to the edge of her
property line, as well as a double-unit at this property line. She requested
that the proposal be considered without the home developed on that parcel.
Density. Concern that this type of development is very uncharacteristic of
the neighborhood, and that the cost of the units and character of development
is a significant misfit in the neighborhood. Ms. Schultz would support a
single family development on the site with 4-5 homes with adequate green
space.
Ms. Schultz spoke of a term called In-Rem, which refers to the situation when
property Curns out to be unmarketable, and falls into to disrepair, owners
don't have the resources to maintain it, and eventually falls to the city
without any taxes being paid on it. 5he cautioned against the risk o£ this
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property falling within such an In-Rem status in this neighborhood.
Chair Field asked that public testinony not include the economics of the
project.
David Schultz, 1120 Saint Clair Avenue, a professor of political science,
with expertise in land use and regulatory takings, and experience in code
enforcement, land use, zoning and housing and economic development, spoke in
opposition. Mr. Schultz reviewed the letter he submitted Co the commission
dated 11./13/97, which summarized his concerns. (A copy of this letter is in
the case file). Before doing so he said he disagreed with the. way that staff
has characterized the project and found staff's review of the site to be
remiss in several areas and noted that he found Ms. Kimberly's comments
regarding the Metropolitan Council to be inaccurate, saying he could speak to
that as someone who has worked with the metropolitan council on land use
development in the metropolitan region. I-Ie agrees that more housing should be
built. However, he said Met Council never said to build housing where it
doesn't fit and creates safety hazards and seriously impacts on existing
housing. Further comments included:
Traffic safety. As elaborated above by others. He addressed the issue of
shifting the traffic on to the St. Clair alley. While the alley will be
widened, he noted that at its narrowest point (12-14 feet), he said that there
is almost no room to widen it beyond a couple of additional feet, which will
not be significant in order to accommodate additional traffic. Question had
been addressed as to the number of accidents which have occurred in the a11ey
and he suggested the more appropriate issue to be what is the traffic flow on
St. Clair, which he said is exceedingly high, especially during rush hour,
which provides for difficulty currently in entering and exiting the alley. He
noted that there is currently an average of one accident per month. To add to
this traffic he said would not create an inconvenience but a£urther hazard
that already exists on the St. Clair alley.
Parking. If additional alley area parking is provided it would close up the
alley to allow adequate traffic flow to go through, and in addition the
project will put additional parking out onto already overcrowded streets,
creating further hazards on the streets.
Fire Safety issues. Ae said that even with the widening to 16 feet, that the
ability to get a hook and ladder down the a11ey at its narrowest point is
problematic. He stated that there is an assumption that the entrance to the
proposed cul-de-sac�at St. Clair will adequately absorb fire safety vehicles
and he proposed that is assuming it's not rush hour traffic and that there is
not guest parking in the cul-de-sac, and if not the case there will be
signiEicant difficulty.
Proposal is inconsistent with integrity of the neighborhood, including
aesthetics and lines of the structure. He said it looks different and there
are no other cluster developments in the area.
Mr. Schultz addressed the fact that the existing units in the neighborhood
range in price Erom $60,OOD to $90,000, with the proposed units going from
$140,000 to $200,000. He finds this to indicate an incapatability with the
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existing units.
Inconsistent with the comprehensive plan for the neighborhood. The fact that
it needs a SCUP alone, he said, indicates its incompatability.
Mr. Schultz said he felt attached units, not clustered units would be
permissible. He suggested removal of the two units on Lexington, as the two
large units next to a small house was not acceptable. I-Ie also suggested the
architectural look o£ the building must be changed.
John Mathern, the applicant, spoke in rebuttle. He reviewed the communication
with the neighborhood on a number of occasions. He said that the district
council advised that they meet with the neighborhood and he said that they
attempted to do so, and he said that they desired to have an open dialogue.
He reviewed that they have over the course of time, reduced their density,
changed their roads, changed the way they load on to the alleys. He noted
that the units proposed for bordering on Lexington will be one level units.
Chair Field questioned the issue that detached homes cannot be placed on the
property. Mr. Mathern said this was addressed and at one time they had two
detached units proposed, but were told they had to use a common wa11 with
attached units.
Commissioner Kramer asked i£ certain units couldn't be platted as separate
parcels and make them not part of the clusCer development. Mr. Beach
responded noting that one of the problems is that the units have frontage on a
private street. Given the unusual shape of the lot there might be some
question in meeting the minimum lot size reguirements.
Mr. Ryan further noted that in R-4 zoning they would need 40 feet of frontage
and there is only 180 feet o£ frontage available on Lexington Parkway.
Commissioner Kramer asked if the only way to do stand alone units would be
under a planned unit development. He agreed, but said that in that case a
rezoning would be required.
Commissioner Chavez asked whether the developer has a performance bond in
place. Mr. Mathern responded that none is required for Chis project. He said
that once the project has been approved they would be required to post a
completion bond, which they will do. �
Commissioner Chavez spoke of the a11ey traffic and asked if a11 alleys aren't
pretty similar where two cars cannot pass one another in the alley. Mr. Beach
acknowledged that this situation is quite common.
Mr. Mathern said that had they had an opportunity to meet with the
neighborhood their various concerns could have been addressed, i.e. the
additional parking, the aesthetics, etc.
Commissioner Gordon asked if the site were zoned properly for free-standing
homes he asked if the developer would consider building it that way. Mr.
Mathern responded that it would not be free-standing homes on a City street as
the property doesn't a11ow for that, and an earlier proposal with attached and
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detached units was turned doom by City staff.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Mathern was still willing to meet with
the neighbors to attempt to work out the problems. Mr. Mathern responded that
he did not want to meet with the neighborhood, but wanted to see action taken
by the committee.
Commissioner Chavez noted through staff that the applicant has already agreed
to extension of the 60-day period so that he could continue conversations with
the neighbors and work with district 16 and with staff with issues raised in
the site plan review process. �
Commissioner Wencl said that it appeared that the requirement of having an
additional street is the most limiting part of the development. Mr. Mathern
responded affirmatively. However, he said it was naive of them initially to
believe that they could have all units accessed by the a11ey. It was pointed
out at a number o£ meetings that nobody wanted all of the garages to load on
St. Clair, nobody wanted them to run through from St. Clair to Lexington. He
said that he likes the cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Wencl asked if there is any other possible way to configure the
development so that the cul-de-sac can be minimized, to position the house
more favorably on the site so as to limit the number that have to be accessed
£rom the a11ey. Mr. Beach responded that 90 feet is the minimum required by
the fire code and despite looking at other designs, in the end a better design
could not be identified.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Vaught said that the Lexington traffic significantly bothered
him. He said that he understood that the cul-de-sac oEf of Lexington likely
represented a compromise between what the original proposal was, which was to
use the alley exclusively for access. However, he noted that primary access
to the a11ey wi11 remain £or five of the units. He said he had significant
concerns and unanswered questions with respect to why Public Works was adamant
with respect to the design of this, as he didn't feel it makes sense.
Commiasioner Vaught moved a two-week layover, to November 13, 1997, to allow
Public Works` representatives to attend the meeting to address this issue.
Commissioner Gordon seconded the motion.
Commissioner Vaught welcomed the event Chat the neighborhood and the developer
might decide to meet to try and reach agreement.
Chair Field reviewed that in the event a compromise were arrived at, that the
public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Vaught included in his motion that the public hearing be reopened
in the event a compromise were reached, but would not a11ow for the revisiting
of any and all issues outlined at this meeting. Commissioner Gordon supported
the motion.
Commissioner Gordon also desired input from Public Works and wished to see any
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available data on the use of the a11ey.
Commissioner Vaught noted that the motion implies that the public hearing
would be opened in the event of a compromise with the Chair framing the
discussion and allowing testimony regarding only new issues.
The motion £or a layover to November 13 carried on a unanimous voice vote of
6 to 0.
Drafted by:
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Recording Secretary
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Beth Bartz
Southwest Quadrant
Approved by:
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Chairpers,
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ZONING COMMITTHS STARF RSPORT
FILS # 97-207
1. APPLIC2:N'P: MENDOTA HOMES
DATS OF HEARING: 10/30/97
2. CLASSIFICATION: Special Condition Use
3. LOCATION: xxx LEXINGTON PKWY S(southwest quadrant of Lexington and St.
Clair)
4. PLA23NI23G DISTRICT: 16
5. LEGAL DESCR2PTION: see file
6. PRESENT ZONING: R-4 ZONING CODS RSFERENCE:§60.413 (13) &§64.300 (d)
7. STAFF INVBSTIGATION P.ND REPORT: DATS: October 17, 1997 BY: Beth Bartz
8. DATE RECEIVSD: 08/04/97 DEADLINE FOR ACTION: 12/02/97
A. PIIRPOSE: A special condition use permit to a11ow a 10 unit cluster
development.
B. PARCEL SIZE: The development parcel is roughly triangular in shape with
183.93 feet o£ frontage on Lexington Avenue. Total lot area is 107,380.5
square feet.
C. EXISTING LAND IISE: One storage building is currently located on the
property. Otherwise, it is vacanC.
D. SIIRROUNDING LAND IISE: The property is surrounded by single family homes on
the north and east, and by the Short Line railroad corridor and Ayd`Mill
Road diagonally on the southwest.
E. ZONING COnH CITATION: Sections 60.413 (13) and 64.300 (d) of the zoning
code permit cluster developments subject to the conditions detailed i.n
findings #2 and #3 of this report.
F. HISTORY/DISCIISSION: There are no previous zoning cases concerning this
property. A site plan review is also required. Initial reviews indicate
applicant has meC the site plan requirements; approval is pending on the
approval of the special conditional use permit.
G. DISTRICT COIINCIL RBCOMMENDAT20N: The Summit Hill AsSOCiation reviewed an
earlier proposal for a 12-unit cluster development on October 9, 1997.
They reoommended denial of the special conditional use permit for a 12-unit
development. The 10-unit proposal will be presented to the Zoning and Land
Use Committee of the Summit Hi11 Association on October 28, 1997. Any
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£urther recommendations will be presented at the October 30 public hearing
by the Planning Commission.
H, FINDINGS•
1. The applicant has a purchase agreement for the property proposed for
development. Ten dwelling units are proposed, 5 buildings of two units
each. Access to the parcel is proposed from Lexington Parkway via
private street. Five units wi11 access their garage from the private
street; the remaining five garages will be accessed by the existing
alley.
2. Chapter 60.413 (13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments
subject to the £ollowing conditions:
a. There shall be a minimum of two (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units are planned.
b. The units shall be atCached, common wall, single-family, with no unit
iatruding on the vertica2 airspace of any other unit.
This condition is met. The units are paired side-by-side, with no
unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit.
c. The parcel sha12 meet the Iot area required per unit in the zoning
district.
This condition can be met. The 1ot area, including half of the a11ey
is 107,380.5 square feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit,
exceeding the 5000 square feet per unit requirement.
d. The parcel shall have a minimum frontage of eighty (80) feet on an
improved street.
This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet o£ frontage on
Lexington Parkway.
e. The structure shaSl confozm to the schedu2e of regulations for
height, lot coverage, setbacks and parking.
This condition is met. As proposed, the develoment meets tfie
requirements for height, lot coverage and parking prescribed by the
zoning district. Twelve visitor parking spaces will be provided in
addition to a double garage for each unit. Zoning enforcemenC has
determined the £ront yard to be on Lexington, and the rear yard to be
the farthest northwest corner of the parcel. The plan appears to
meet all setback requires; LIEP will be con£irming conformance will
the front yard setback requirement next week.
f. The design sha12 be compatibSe with the sssrroundiag aeighborhood.
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding
neighborhood which consists o£ a mixture o£ 1, 1-1/2, and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs. Materials used in the
surrounding neighborhood include stucco, clapboard, metal siding, and
composite shingles. Windows are a mixture of double hung and fixed
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"picture" windows.
The proposed units are 1 to 2 sCOries in height with interseeting
gable roofs. (See drawings attached.) The applicant has not
specified which units will be one or two stories, but rather proposes
that decision be made with the potential buyer. Exterior material is
proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, wtiile larger than
the typical home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design,
is broken up by a central gabled bay. Porches and double hung
windows provide other design elements similar to houses in the area.
g. Individual lots, buildings, street and parkiag areas shall be
designed and situated to minimize alteration of the natural features
and topograpky.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for
the site. The grading plan also includes construction of a storm
water pond near Lexington. However, the overall topography of the
site, including the slope into the railroad corridor, would not be
disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the sl.ope area of the site
would remain.
h. Applications for cluster deve2opment sfia21 ineSude site plans,
including landscaping and e2evations and other infozmation the
pSanning commissioa may request.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan,
landscape plan, and building elevations along with a written
description detailing the specifics of the development.
3. Section 64.300 (d) of the zoning code requires that before the planning
commission may grant approval of a principal use subject to special
conditions. the commission shall find that:
a. The extent, location and intensity of the use wi32 be in substantial
compliance with the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan and any applicable
subarea plans which were approved by the city counciZ.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to this
matter. The"re are no applicable small area plans for this area.
The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990s recommends "expansion of
housing opportunities for middle and higher income households where
this market is or can be addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this
proposal will be priced at $139,900 -$200,000, addressing middle
income populations.
b. The use will provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic
congestioa ia the public streets.
A private street wi11 provide primary access to the units and allow
emergency vehicle traffic and visitor parking. The Fire Department
has determined this access to be sufficient for emergency access.
Five of the ten units will access their garage from this private road
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as well. The remaining five units will access their units from the
alley. The applicant has agreed to make improvements to the alley as
part of the project.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to
Lexington raising concerns about traf£ic cutting through the alley to
avoid the intersection at St. Clair and Lexington. The current
proposal does not extend the existing alley and does not aonnect the
alley to the private street, eliminating the ability for traffic to
cut through.
Several residents have expressed concerns about any additional use of
the alley due to the proximity of the alley outlet to the St. Clair -
Lexington intersection and the width o£ the alley. Public Works has
reviewed the pzoposal and found the use of the alley and the proposed
curb cut acceptable provided the alley is paved and the entrance to
the private street from Lexington appear similar to a driveway
curbcut, rather than a street, to minimize confusion.
a. The use wi11 uot be detrimeatal to the existing charaeter of
development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger the public
health, safety and general we2fare.
This condition is met. The number of new dwelling units can be
accommodated by existing facilities and services provided by the
city. The private street will accommodate emergency vehicles and all
requirements for water, sewer and storm water have been met.
d. The use will not impede the normal aud orderZy development and
improvement of the surrounding propesty for uses permitted in tke
district.
This condition is met. The surrounding property is £ully developed.
The new housing will serve as a buffer between the single family
homes on St. Clair and Lexington and the railroad - Ayd Mill Road
cox'ridor.
e. The use sha11, in aIl other respects, coaform to the app2icab2e
regulations of the district in which it is located.
This condition is met.
2. STAFF RECObIDfEtIDATION: Based on findings 1 through 3 staff,recommends
approval of the special conditional use permit.
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SPECIAL CONDITION USE PERMIT APPLICATION
Department of Planning and Economic Development
Zoning Section
31 DO City Hall Annex
25 West Fourth Street
Saint Paut, MN SSIO2
266-6589
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TYPE O�F PERM : Application is hereby made under the provisions of Chapter ,
Section �t��' _, Paragraph l�_ of the Zoning Code for a:
� Speciai Condition Use Permit
❑ River Corridor Conditional Use Permit
❑ Modification of River Corridor Standards
SUPPORTING INFORMATION: in the space below supply information that is applicable to your type of
permit (attach additional sheets if necessary)
• SPECIAL CONDITION USE: Expiain how the use will meet each of the special conditions.
• RIVER CORRIDOR CONDITIONAL USE: Describe how the use will meet the applicable conditions.
• MODIFICATION OF RIVER CORRIDOR STANDARDS: Explain why modifications are needed.
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P.O. BC�X 416
FORES7 L.AKE, MN 65025
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8eth Bartz
City of St. Paul
P{anning and Economic Development
25 West �ourth Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
We are proposing the development of a two-plus aere parcel of land located at the
southwest corner of the intersection of Laxington Qaricway South and St. Clair
Avenue in St. Paul. The devefopment will be a townhouse community consisting
of five fixinhomes.
'fhe property has streetfrontage of approximatoly 184 feet on Lexington Parkway.
tt then moves back and widens west of Lexington Parkway South to the front of the
altey behind the homes on Lexington Parkway South and St. Ciair Ave.
Ouf proposal is to build ten homes (five twinhomes) on this project site of 101,589
square feet. The averaga lot siza wili be 2,87D syuare feet. The reason this tot
size is signiftcantly smaller than originally proposed is due to the addition of an
outlot of 74,236 square feet labele8 as "Lot 11" on the preliminary plat.
in order to provide ac�ess to this properky, we propose a private drive off of
Lewngton Ave. that wil� service the garages of five of the townhome units. The
remaining ftve units wili have �arages and street access off the existing aileys and
St. Clair Avenue. This proposal is in r�sponse to concerns about tra�c increases
on Lexington Parkway. We feel that by routing half the traffic of the development
onto Lexington Parkway and haif onto St. Clair Ave., we mitigate the problem. In
addition, we have agreed to pave ti�e north/south and east/west alleys to provide a
hard surface roadvray for residents and neighbors.
After much discussion, we have praduced an exterior design that will be easify
incorporated into the varied design of the existing neighborhood which consists
m�in4y of one and two story structures with detached garages. Our townhomes
will'be a mixture of one attd two story units with and without basements. They wili
have two or three bedrooms, two or thfee bathrooms, and an attached, two-car
garage off the rear of the structure. Twenty covered and 2A uncoveted parking
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A townhome association wi11 be put in place to
Much discussion has occurred on this development with The Summit Hill
Assocfatian, neigF�bors, and City oi St. Paul stafif. We feel we now have a well
ptaiined and designed development. We are hoping for a favorable response.
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October 22, 1997
Beth Bartz
City of St. Paul
Planning and Economic Qevelopment
25 West Fourth Street
St. Paui, MN 55102
Dear Beth,
This IetEer serves fo Update our tetter of September 25, 1997, regarding pricing
and development costs of Lexington Commons Townhomes.
We remain committed to price ssnsitivity and providing a townhome product
suitable for purchase by r�sidents who already live in tho area of Lexington
Parkway and St. Glair Avenue. Ho�vever, due to fewer uniis in the developmant,
our prices have been adjusted upward to accomodate allocation of land
development costs. The Lexington Commons townhomes will now range in price
from $139,900.40 to around $200,000.00. The lower price delivers a rambler with
an unfinished basement. Prices then inerease according to number of leveis,
square footage, and interior selections.
In talking with individuals who are interosted in living in this development, we have
discovered that the increase in price has alienated some potential buyers. 4'Vhile
this is unfortunate, we have also received new inquiries from potential buyers
seeking a slightiy higher price range.
Overall, this project remains viable despito changes in price range. lnterest is stili
high and we look forvvard to approval and moving forward with construction.
Again, thank you very much for your continued support and suggestions on this
development.
Sincerely,
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Erin;E, Mathern
for f�lendota Homes, Inc.
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District �6 Planning Council
Beth B2rtz 86� Saint Clair Avenue
Planning and Economic Development saint Paui, Minnesota 5sios
25 West Fourth Street Te�ephone 612-222-1222
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102 Fax s�2-222-issa
e-mail summit.hillC�?stpaul.gov
October 29, 1997
RE: Zoning File Number 97-207
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Dear Ms. Bartz and Members of the Zoning Committee of the Pianning Commission,
The Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hiil Association/District 16 Planning
Council met with Erin and John Mathern of Mendota Homes in August, September and
October to discuss their proposal for a ten unit ciuster development southwest of Lexington
and St. Clair. Throughout the process, the Matherns have been willing to discuss their proposal
and have made changes and adjustments in response to concerns raised at these meetings.
However, it is the opinion of the Zoning and Land Use Committee that there are still significant
issues which have not been addressed in a satisfactory manner. Briefly, these issues are
safety, density, soil conditions and architecture:
• The traffic on Lexington is close to its maximum capacity and may actually reach
maximum capacity during rush hour.
• There is evidence that this site may be a former dumpsite. Yet the developer has
little knowledge of the condition of the soil. A soii test shouid be done and should be
determined to be acceptab4e for a development of this size.
• The multiple concerns of the Canadian Pacific Railroad have not been addressed. A
vibration test should be done and should be determined to be acceptable for
residential habitation.
• The developer has not adequately addressed several issues regarding the aliey; in
particular, the actual finished width and assessments.
• There remains concern over adequate maneuvering room for emergency vehicles
and garbage trucks.
• The scale of the townhomes is out of proportion with the adjacent homes.
• The character and the aesthetic of the townhome development is inappropriate for
this particular site.
Therefore, the Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16
Pfanning Council recommends denial ofi the requesi by Mendota Homes for a Speciai
Condition Use Permit in order to construct a ten unit cluster development southwest of
texington and St. Cfair.
Sincerely,
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Charles Skrief, Chair
Zoning and Land Use Committee
Summit Hili Association/District 16 Planning Council
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November 5, 1997
Beth .Bartz
City of St. Paul
Department of Planning and Zoning
1100 City Hail Annex
25 West 4th Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Mendota Homes/Lexington and St. Clair
Zoning File 97-207
Dear Beth:
I would like to take this opportunity to express my support for the proposed
development of townhomes on the southeast corner of Lexington Parkway and
St. Ciair Avenue. { live in a townhome at Wilder Park, direct4y across Ayd Mili
Road from this proposed development. The townhouse style of living appeals to
those of us who do not want the upkeep of a single family home. �he possibifity
of having more townhomes in this area is an exciting one, since it would allow
peopfe to have this styie of iiving, but remain in the city.
1 understand that there are serious concerns regarding access to this site. When
there are so few lots available in the city for new homes to be built, I think it
essential that some sort of compromise be worked out to enable this
development to proceed. I encourage all parties to work toward a safe, realistic
solution which would aliow these homes to be built.
Thank you.
Very truly yours,
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Kate cGough
1172 St. Clair Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105
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St Paul, MN 55105
November 5, 1997
Dept. of Planning &
Economic Development
Att'n: Beth Bartz
1100 City Hall Annex
25 W. 4th St.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Zoning File 97-207
Mendota Homes
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We support the modified proposal to build ten townhomes in the southwest
quadrant of Lexington & St. Clair.
We live in Wilder Park, across Ayd Mill Road from the proposed development.
We understand that access remains an issue, and we urge you and the developer to find
a suitable compromise that will allow the project to move forwazd. St. Paul needs to
encourage these types of developments to provide housing choices, help keep our t�
base viable, and to encourage people to remain in--or perhaps move back to—the city.
With so littie space available for cluster development in St. Paul, a creative solution
must be found that atlows the community to take advantage of this unique opportunity.
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Lauralee GarFieid
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October 19, 1997
To: Zoning Committee of the Saint Paul Planning Commission
25 West Fourth Street
100 City Hall Annes
Saint Paul, �' S5102
From: Le�ngton & Saint Clair Property Owners prosimate to Subject Development (below)
Subject: Special condirion use permit far 10-unit cluster development called Lexington Commons
Zoning File Number: 97-207
Zoning File l�iame: MENDOTA HOMES
References:
• Article; Highland Villager, August 6, 1997; MnDOT foresees uaffic congestion without Ayd Mill Road Connection.
• Article; Highland Villager, October 8, 1997; Ciry Council iejeas request fo= MaoGrove townhomes.
• Sumaxit Hill Association and Distsict 16 Planning Council; 1997 Goals and Objectices
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We, the undersigned property owners, are unanimously opposed to the proposed cluster development as
wimessed by our signatures on this document. We describe in this letter our reasons why we are opposed
to this project.
We want the Zoning Committee to deny the proposed cluster development. Our rationale:
TRAFFIC DENSITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY
I.exington Avenue is a very hi� volume toadway, especially beriveen I-94 and Randolph; we believe that this project will
exacexbate the tcaffic density in tlus corridor, zefez to the attached article from Highland Villagez, August 6,1997.
Accident frequenry at St. Clair and Lexington is high; we believe that the additional entry/exit traffic to/from the pxoposed
duster development will inczease the frequency of accidents due to the very short haffic mixiug length afforded by the
available sites for new stieet access to the pzoject. It is very probable that the point of intersection of the proposed street access
with Lexington Pazkway coincides with the ma�imum tcaffic velocity in both the north- and south-bound directions; thus
making it very difficult foz traffic movements into and out of the proposed development
We believe that the pzoposed pxoject will cieate a vauetp of tcaffic aad safety pioblems of significant pxoportions. Private street
access for the project onto Lexington Pa:kway will occur at the bottom of the valley betmeen St. Claix and Jeffrxson, just before
the bridge (southboun� oveL Apd Mill Road. Two feanues of This geometry combine to form a dangerous set of traffic
conditions: (1) this low point is whete traffic will typically have its maximum velocity, (2) drivexs atteniion is drewn to points
above the madwap to the traffic lights at the top of the hill (m eithez direction St Qair for northbound tiaffic and Jefferson for
southbound ttaffic). Thus, with cacs at maximum velocitp and with daveis looking ahead to see if ihey can make the lights, the
traffic will be ill pzepazed foz perpendiculaz uaffic movements enteting/leaving the I.eaiagron madwap at the end of the
bridge.
Summit F3il1 Association recognizes the tzaffic problems in District 16 and has set polides to promote traffic c lm a pmjects;
the pmposed project is in duect conflict mith these traffio-calmuig objectives.
PARBING ISSUE
Gurmndy it is possible for guests and escess parking in the reaz of zesideats on Leffington Parkway. With the increased traffic
and deaease in appazent useable surface, parking will no longez be possible in the alleys. The altemative is pazking on
Lexington Pazkmay. Wlule pazking is only restricted there Monday thru Faday and then only during rush hou=s, absolutely none
of the residents park thexe during other houts because the huge potential for causing a fatality. This is not just an opinion. We
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have done studies where cus aze parked duzing daylight hours and seen the number of neaz accidents that occuL We have not
tried this during night hours on weekends because we aze not prepazed to accept the responsibility for the accident ihat will
occua
ARCFiITECTURAL HARMONY
We find ihe plaaned decelopment m be inconsistent wirh e�sting neighborhood arrhitectuie that is currendy all single-family
homes with detached gerages
The Rambler styling, walkout basemenrs and cul-de-sac sueet organization w-ill make the pmject look ]ike �X/oodbury-in-Saint-
Paul very much out of character for the area.
ALLEY ACCESSIBILITY AND TRAFFIC
The subject development will place about a 30% increase in alley traffic aboae that esisting today. The alley in quesrion is a tee
with dead-end ternrinations and no tumarovnds. An 18-foot opening off of St Clair avenue approximaiely 120 feet west of ihe
intexsection of St. Clair and I.esingtoa Pazkway affocds enttance. Figure (ENTER) shows ihis entrance to rhe alley.
The increase in alley treffic will deczease properry calues for rhe residents on Lexington Parkway and St. Clair Avenue.
Neighbors have successfiilly appealed increased properry valuations by arguing incteased street uaffic causes deteriorating
pxopetry values.
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This is the entrance &om St
Clair Avenue to ihe dead-end
alley rhat sezves 18 neighbors.
Note the small access road
widch. Its ONE GAR WIDE!
Traffic is always very 6eavy
at this e�t.�
NEIGHBORAOOD CHARACTER
Constrvcfion plans call fnz a pavate sixeet to secvice the proposed development Building this srreet will zequice the xemoval of
most, if not all, of the trees along the vdge that forms the pzoperty boundary of Reuth's Lot 19. Removing these trees will
exacerbate the existing soil ezosion condirions along Ayd Mill Road. Additionally, these nees form a windbxeak and sound
barrier for the neighborhood; it would be important to keep tliis function for the pioposed homes due to ihe high levels of
uaffic noise (auto and railroad) fiom Lexington, Ayd Mill Road and ihe Soo Line tracks.
There is a kind of Gateway to ihe azea of Saint Paul noxth of Ayd Nfill Road which is formed by the uees along ridge of the
railroad cut Figure (GA3'E) shows the effect that ihese irees have in prociding the green enu�zcay to the city u one proceeds
north on Lexington. Aemoving the tcees to make way for the private stceet access to the ptoposed project will dcastically alter
the chazacter of the neighborhood.
Summit Hill Association has speufic objectives to ptomote greening of District 16. Tlus proposed development is in direct
conflict with these greening objectives.
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top of the adge at the leR These
trees will be removed to make puvate
street access if the proposed
decelopmentgoes forcvazd_
This wrould be a drastic and
irrecocable modification of the
neighborhood chazacteL
FIRE AND SECURITY
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Fire company access to buildings in the pioposed addition would be severely limited by ihe alley access which has overhead
powerlines, restriaed width (single lane) and will require fire rigs to either enter or exit by bac6ing up since rhere is no
pzovision foc tumaround of large azticulated vehicles. Curiendy the waste disposal vehicles (considerable shorrer than hook-
and-ladder equipment) must back up and rurn azound in the tee of ihe alley ln order to access nelghborhobd waste picb
The alley is not designed to serve as a traffic laterat, a role ihat is forced on it now due to pazking limitations and the unique
configuration of the site. It is unsafe now, with no additional traffic. You can't say ihat it will get 30% more unsafe; instead
there w-ill be a disproportionate, nonlineaz increase in safery threat due to ihis tiaffic loading.
STRUCTURAL AND EKVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
We believe diat Lot 19 Reuth's Addition will be built on a former waste disposal site. Current residents have recently at[empted
modemizadon and expansion pmjects. These piojects have shown tY�at the sod in Reuth's Addition is composed of dischazge
material such as coal ash and domestic detatus of verg porous chazactec wtuch in some cases has cequired footings of up to 24
feet in otder to meet consttuction codes of Saint Paul.
We believe that soil stabiliry will pose pLOblems during development foz existing homes in the neighbozhood and will affect
post-development homes strucnual quality. We believe that Ruerhs Addition Lot 19 is the youngest azea of the waste disposal
site and would thecefoxe have ihe least stable soil chatacteristics and greatest potential for hazudous substance entrainment
We have concems about the structural integrity of slab-on-grade houses built on soil of dubious stabiliry; espedallp as this
affects rhe long-term prospects of our community as a whole.
We believe that there is reason to question the environmentai condirion of subsurface soils; i.e. waste disposal fill material will
ptobably contain agents wluch would xequise remediation befoze the soil could be dassified as enviionmentally acceptable foz
homes. Neighbois hace found cieosote tteated railmad ties, lead pipe, bottle glass, coal ash and other debds.
We aze concemed ihat no rigorous and unbiased soil samp3ing has been attempted; we aze not aware of any actual soil resting
has been accomplished on a scale which would permit accurate evaluation of the soil strucmral and environmental qualiry of
Reuth's I.ot 19.
We believe that paor to wnsiderarion of the duster de� the issue of soil condition (structure and encironmental
hazazds) should be resolved fhtough soil tesring.
ECONO�IIC BEA'EFIT
The property, Reuth's Lot 19, has been dassified as having no economic value and has been murimally assessed as such for
many years. To the best of our knowledge, Reuth's Lot 19 was purchase under a Saint Paul surplus propertp program. The
buyer I:new the state of the piopezt� its access limitations and existing soil condition at the time of purchase.
Denying the special condition use perntit will thecefoie not hazm the cuccent ownec The tand is zoned fot Residential
developmeat of single family dwellings and can be sold and/or developed for such purposes.
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We, the neighbors, should not be placed at risL- by City Council to be unieasonably affected by the monetazy goals of either ihe
seller or a developer whose sole purpose is to make monej: We hope that greed of those seeking the special condirion use
pexmit dces not tal.e precedence ovex the desiie of our neighborhood to retain its individuality and charactez
ECOVOhfICS OF DEVELOPhfE1VT
We do not believe there is sufficient marl:et intecest in new construction in a neighborhood w�th home value chazacteristics that
e�st in Reurh's Additioa. Ecea ihough Mendota Homes hu indicated there is interest in the development by persons unL-nown;
we believe that thete is a significant diffecence in intetest and intent 2o buy. We believe that the detractozs 2o the pmpetry
described belom will dampen the interest of the prospective buyes.
We believe that there aze significant detraaoxs which will affect the mazketability of the proposed units: pro�miry to railroad
right-of-way; tcaffic density and entrance/egLess to Lexington Pazb proximity to aircraft appxoaches at MSP Intemational
Airport; un-resolved I-35 Conneaor issues; proximiry to NSP lugh-voltage transmission lines; pending iecreational bike-parh
pmject All of these issues would negarively affect an astute potential buye�s decision to pucchase.
Mazket prices quoted by Mendota Homes fox the units are up to 5180,000. The average home value in fltis neighborhood is
around $8Q000. This means that the proposed uni[s will be valued an mote than 2_times the existing homes We believe that
astute home buyecs would not consider such an investment in ielatively over-priced =eal estate; especially given ihe aesthetics of
the primary ciew from the pioposed residences. Loo�ng from ihe bxow of the hill bordering on the Aqd Mill Road at the
apptosimate location of the ptoposed private sneet access to the project properries is the 14plus story brick Wilder high-rise
and NSP high voltage transmission lines which dominate the view
CLOSING REQUEST
We ask you to please acknowledge our voice as residents of this community and vote to denp any variances
to existing ailowed development.
Sincerely,
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Zoning Committee
25 West Fourth St.
1100 City Hall Annex
St. Paul, MN. 55102
Dear Commissioners:
Re: Zoning file number 97-207: Mendota Homes
I am opposed to a speciai condition use pemut to allow a 10 unit cluster development for
the reasons of safety, trafTic, and character of the neighborhood.
The visitors that now pazk on the side or our garages will no longer be able to park there.
They will instead need to pazk on Lexington Parkway thus eliminating one lane on uaffic
between St. Clair and the bridge over Ayd Mill Road. This poses a safety problem as the
cars going south on Le�ngton Parkway will not be able to cleazly see the park cars.
The additional street or road entrance/e�t onto Lexington by the bridge over Ayd Mill
Road will cause additional problems. This is because both the northbound and the
southbound traffic on Leacington Pazkway has hills. The placement of the opening is at the
bottom of both hills.
The aliey is not wide enough for two cars to use at the same time. If a car is coming in
and a car is going out one of the cars must backup. The means backing up onto to St.
Clair on backing down the aliey until you have enough room to stop. The garbage trucks
need to back out from the north/south alley to the east/west alley to tum around to leave
the alley or vice versa. Our alley in unique in that there is only one entrance/exit. I do not
think our alley could handie any additional cars.
I am against the tearing down of the trees along Ayd Mill Road side of the property
because they act as a sound barrier from the train and traffic noise on Ady Mill Road and
the Soo Line railroad tracks. It wili also change the view and the privacy that people have
when using the backyards for entertaining. It will change the chazacter of the
neighborhood.
Sincerely Yours, �
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Alberta L. Binker
263 So. Lexington Pkwy.
St. Paul, MN. 55105
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ST. Paul, :+'T; 55105
Zoning Co*.nmittPP
?5 �:/PSt Kellogg Blvd.
St. Pa.ul, M1V 55102
DPar Sirs:
I am writing regarding a spPCia.l pPrmit for
P�Yendota HomPS, to build a 13 unit cluster
dPVelopmPrit on thP southwPSt quadrant of
Zexington and St, Clair AvenuPS in St. Paul.
I am definitPl,y against this zoning change
for this small parcel of land. It is a green
spacP so badly nPeded in cities nov:. There
are Pnough homes in this area nou� plus the
railraod tracks and steam lines so near.
I certainl,y hope common sense will be used
regarding this matter and leave thP area
alone:
SincerPly,
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MINNEAPOLIS, M�i t
August 27, 1997
Zoning Committee
City of St. Paul
25 West Fourth St.
I 100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
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�ONING
RE: Zoning File Number 97-207, Mendota Homes
Special conditional use pemut to allow a 13 unit cluster development
Southwest quadrant ofLexington and St. Ciair
CPR Mileage 414, Merriam Park Subdivision
To whom it may concern:
We have reviewed the above-mentioned proposal and wish to state our opposition to it.
Residential development adjacent to our right-of-way is not compatible with railway
operations. The health, safety and welfare of potential residents could be adversely
affected by railway activities.
. Notwithstandin� our opposition, should the proposed draft plan of subdivision be
approved, Canadian Pacific Railway requests that the following conditions be imposed on
the development:
1. Berm, or combination berm and noise attenuation fence, havins extensions or retums
at the ends, to be erected on adjoining property, parallel to the railway right-of-way
with construction accordin� to the following specifications:
a) Minimum total heisht of 18 feet above top-of-rail;
b) Berm minimum height 8 feet and side slopes not steeper than 2.5:1;
c) Fence, or wall, to be constructed without openines and of a durabie material
weighing not less than 4 Ib/sq. ft. of surface azea.
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I`TO part of berm/noise barrier is to be constructed on railway property.
A clause should be inserted in all offers of sale and purchase or lease, and be registered
on title or included in the lease for each dwelling affected by any noise and vibration
attenuation measures, advisin� that any berm, fencin„ or vibration isolation features
implemented are not to be tampered with or altered, and further that the owner shall
have the sole responsibility for and shall maintain these features.
Dwellings must be constructed such that the interior noise levels meet the criteria of
the appropriate authority. A noise study should be cazried out by a professional noise
consultant to detemune what impact, if any, railway noise would have on residents of
proposed subdivisions and to recommend mitigation measures if required. The
recommendations of the sTudy aze to be implemented. -
2. Setback of dwellings from the railway right-of-way to be a minimum of 90 feet. While
no dwelling should be closer, an unoccupied building, such as a garage, may be built
closer. The 8 feet hi�h earth berm adjacent to the right-of-way must be provided in all
instances.
3. Ground vibration transmission to be estimated through site tests. If in excess of the
acceptable levels, all dwellings within 225 feet of the nearest track should be
protected. The measures employed may be:
a) Support the buildin� on rubber pads between the foundation and the occupied
structure so that the maximum vertical natural frequency of the stnxcture on the
pads is 12 Hz;
- b) Insulate the buiiding from the vibration ori�inatin' at the railway tracks by an
intervening discontinuity or by installing adequate insulation outside the building,
protected from compaction that would reduce its effectiveness so that vibration in
the building became unacceptable; or
c) Other adequate measures that �vill retain their effectiveness over time
4. A clause should be inserted in all offers to purchase, agreements of sale and purchase
or lease and in the title deed or lease of each dwelling, warnine prospective purchasers
or tenants of the e�stence of the Railwav's operating right-of-way; the possibility of
alterations, including the possibility that the Railway may expand its operations, which
expansion may affect the living envuonment of the residents notwithstandin� the
inclusion of noise and vibration attenuating measures in the desien of the subdivision
and individual units, and that the Railway will not be responsible for complaints or
claims arising from use of its facilities and/or operations.
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5. Any proposed alterations to the e3cisting drainage pattern affecting railway property
must receive prior concurrence from the Railway, and be substantiated by a draina�e
report.
6. Any proposed utilities under or over railway property to serve the development must
be approved prior to their installation and be covered by the Railway's standard
a�reement.
7. A 6 foot high chain link fence should be constructed and maintained along the
common property line of the Railway and the development by the developer at his
expense, and the developer is made aware of the necessity of includin� a covenant
running with the lands, in all deeds, obliging the purchasers of the land to maintain the
fence in a satisfactory condition at their expense.
To ensure the safety and comfort of adjacent residents and to mitigate as much as possible
the inherent adverse environmental factors, your assurance that the above conditions witl
be imgosed on the developer would be appreciated.
We would appreciate being advised of your decision regarding this proposal in due course.
Sincerely,
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David S. Drach
Area Manager
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Ms. Beth Bartz
Zoning Office
City of St. Paul
1100 Ciry Hall Annex
25 West Fourth Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Southwest Quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair
Applicant: Mendota Homes
Zoning File No. 97-207
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I am enclosing for your reference copies of three court decisions involving John Mathern, a principal in
Mendota Homes
An Order in mortgage foreclosure action on townhomes built in Washington County;
2. An Order granting United Mortgage Company relief in the bankruptcy of John and
Sandra Mathern and denying the Matherns' discharge;
An Order confirmine the bankruptcy court's denial of the Matherns' discharge in
bankrup[cy.
As I no[ed to you on the phone, Mathems did brina an action against their bankruptcy attorney
in connection with their bankruptcy filing.
In addition to reservations about the developer, I think the site is quite small for the ambitious
project proposed. Substan�ial tra�c will be brouoht into the neighborhood. The budszt raises
concerns about the project's viabiliry, suggestin� the project should be rejected for a special conditional
use permit.
Very tmly yours,
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Professional Limited Iiabilit� Partnership
4000 FIRST B?�\"B PLACE
601 SECO�D A1 SoL�'x
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(612) 339-7121
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September 11, 1997
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PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
ZONING COMMITEE
OF THE SAINT PAUL PLANNING COMMISSION
TO property Owners �r��ithin 350 feet; /
Representatives of Planning District 16 - �' t�> `��,
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southwest quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair ,a , r
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TIME OF HEARING
PL ACF OF HEARIl�'G
HOW TO PARTICIPATE
A1�TI' QUESTIONS
Thursday, 10/30/97 at 3:30 p.m.
Cit}' Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City� Hall-Cour House
15 West Kelloge Blvd, Saint Paul, ivIIv' S5102
1. You ma�� attend hzarino and testif� .
2. You mav send a letter before the hearina to the Zonine Committee. �:
�Vest Fourth St, 1100 City Halt Annex Saint Pau1, M1v » 102.
3. Participation is not required. This is your notice of public hearins.
Call Beth Baztz of the South«•est tzam at 266-6�80 or your District C ounc,:
Representati��e at 222-1222 �sith the follou information:
Zonin� File Number 97-207
Zoning File Iv'ame MENDOTA HONIES
Mailing Date i0/17 47
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David & Helene I,evy Schultz
1120 Saint Clau Avenue
Saint Paul, Minnesota 5�10�
292-1096
October 20, 1997
Zoning Committee
c/o Beth Bartz
25 West Fourth Street
1100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear Zoning Committee Members:
Re: Mendota Homes/ file number 97-207
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We are properiy owners abutting on tbe proposed developed for a ten unit cluster
development at the southwest quadrant of Lexington and Saint Clair. We oppose the
granting of a special condition use permit to permit this development and we urge members
of your committee and the entire Planning Commission to oppose the special use permit.
There are several reasons why we oppose the granting of the special use permit.
The Mendota Homes project poses a traffic safety problem for the
neighboThood. On the one hand, the development will create an egress on to Lexington
Avenue next to the bridge crossing Ayd Mill parkway and the railroad tracks. This new
eeress will force additional cars and traffic on to a road that MNDOT has alreadv described
- as one of the busiest roads in Saint Paul. (see attached Highland Villager article) Already,
the traffic con�estion on Lexington makes it difficult to enter this street and the Mendota
Homes development would only exacerbate the problem. In addition, unlike other
residential streets in the neiahborhood that have altemative egresses besides entering on to
Lexington, the Mendota Homes development w�ill not.
An eQress at this ]ocation will pose riro additional traffic safetv�roblems. First, the egress
�vill come at the base of a slope of an incline that makes it difficult to see oncouung traffic.
This slope thus creates a visual hazard that w�il make tums across tbe Vaf6c very difficult.
Second, an e�ress here will create a hazard for people wishing to make left tums across the
traffic. There is no question that such tums «zli cause traffic backups. additional con�esrion,
' and accidents.
In addirion to tbe traffic problems Mendota Homes wil] cause by the creation of a new
earess on to Lexinaton, the project also calls for the use of an exisring and small alley off
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of Saint Clair as egress for several of the units. This additional demand on the alley is also
a traf6c safety problem for several reasons. First, the alley is very narrow (ZO feet across)
and seivice vehicles and passenger cars already have difficulty driving down it Moreover,
there is no possibility of widening tbe alley. Second. the allev already enters on to a verv
busy intersection where there are many traffic accidents. Those of us �vho already use the
alley for our homes have difficulty entering and leaving the alley because of the Saint Clair
traffia Third, tlie traffic demand on this alley_is alread�reat and the proposed Mendota
Homes development would si�nificantiv increase the number of cars in an allev alreadV
overcrowded. Fourth, unlike other alleys that laave two egresses, the Saint Clair alley only
has one. This means sib ificant stress on an existing al]ey a3ready overused, placing the
additional traffic on to a very busy street. Hence, adding more traffic makes no sense.
The Mendota Homes pro,ject should be denied a special condition use permit
because similar projects for this property have been turned down in the past.
Several times in tl�e past requests for development at this location have been made and the
City l�as consistenUy turned tl�e project down citing dwelling density, congestion, and traffic
safety issues on Saint Clair. Those decisions were made when the traffic congestion on the
street was much less than it is today.
The Mendota Homes project will create �re safety problems. Because of the
narrowness of the Saint Clair alley and the traffic conQestion on Saint Clair and Lexington.
it wil] be verv difficult for public safetv vehicles. e.g., fire, police and ambulance services, to
enter the Mendota Homes develo np �ent• While the developer contends that his proposed
L,e�ngton egress will be accommodate public safety vehicles, we do not believe that is the
case. Especially in situations during rush hours, or when residents have guests over, the
additional cars parked in the area will make entrance by service vehicles problematic.
The Mendota Homes project is inconsistent with the overall integrity of the
neighbor.hood. An important consideration in granting a special use permit is that the
project fit in with the overall intearitv of the neighborhood. On several fronts, this
development does not. First. it creates a type of unit— cluster development—that is out of
character witb tl�e rest of the homes in the neiohborhood. The rest of the houses are single
famih� detached units. Second, the architectural stvle of the proposed units is inconsistent
�oith the houses in the neishborhood. Third, a cul-de-sac development like Ylendota Homes
is inconsistent «ith the type of development �ce have or want in this neiQhborhood. Fourth,
the project increases unit densit�� beyond what is compatible ��ith the current neiQhborhood.
The Mendota Homes project is inconsistent with the comprehensive plan for
the neighborhood. The comprehensive plan for this area of Saint Paul does not call for
this t�rpe of development or increase in the unit densiri�. Since zonin? laws. ��ariances, and
permits must be consistent �iith the overall comprehensive plan. the cluster development
specia] unit permit shou]d be aiewed as a form of spot zonina that is contran� to citv law and
the overall development plans for the nei�bborhood.
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The Mendota Homes request for a special condition use permit to buiid cluster `
units shouid be rejected for the same reasons a similar project on Juliet and
I.exington was TejeCted. Law, as well as fairness dictates that equals should be treated
the same. Here, the Mendota Homes project is very similar to a special condition use
permit for cluster development that you and the City Council rejected recently on Juliet.
There, tl�e basis of rejection was traffic safety, emergency vehicle access, a lack of harmony
bet�veen the proposed project and the neighborhood, and lack of support by neighbors. (see
attached Highland Villager article) T7ie same conditions are present here except to the
e�tent that the Mendota Homes project has even less direct access to a main street than did
the 7uliet project. Hence, fairness and the ]aw dictate that you reject the special condition
use permit.
The Mendota Homes request for a spe�ial condition use permit should be
denied because none of the neighbors abutting on the project support it.
Lacking community support from those who must live near the project, we urge you to
oppose the granting of a special condition use perrnit for Mendota Homes.
'I'hank you for considering our letter and viewpoint.
Sincerely,
�L�r�. ����
Helene Levy Schultz -
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David & Helene Lery Schultz'htendota Homes
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City Counci) rejects request
for Mac-Grove townhomes
�1 proposed Macalester-Groveland hous-
ing development was dealt another setback
on September 2�4 whzn the St. Paut City
Council rejected a request by Highland Park
dzveloper John Kratz to vacatz a section of
Paiace �venue.
i:*a:z :can[s to construct a two-building,
eisht-uni_ townnome complex on about
=9.000 sauazz fzzt ot ��acant land that he ol� ns
zast o* Lzx�r.g*.or. Parkwav bem�een Palace
and Juiiet a: enues. Hz ���as hoFinQ to a C{� L^.2
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,ie \tiar.z�o.a Dzpz:tment ot T: ar.spo:.a-
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reaues: ier a s�eci�I coaditior, usz ee: :ii*. to
build a"c:uster dzvz(ovmer.t;' a construc:ion
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said the council should not approve the street
vacation until Kratz and his neighbors can
agree on a development plan for the prooerr.��
witho�� Ayd Mi�l Road conne��ion
byJane;�IcClure � tzattheanatysisdidro:zndicateLSa;,.
. ,e:szc:ior.sx�ouldzxpe:iencesiga:ficzr.,,,-
� Proposedcor:ectionsben+•eenAqdi�tilL_f.cpreolems."Ionl�seesieintzrseccicn>o•,
Road and I-91 wiL be o.zser:ted to the Ayd c:-aci.y;'said �iacaiescer-Grove!aac :e���_
�Mi11 Road Task Force aU:00 p.n. �Ionda•r, � se�tatr:° Kac� \.fcGough."bVhv 2re •.re :oe's-
Augus:l3, at thz �izrriam Pzr1: Community i:g at milIions aad millions ef dolia: s:e, c
Centz:, 2000 SC 3nthor.y A•:e. Thz task force, >iiil Road iP.+�e can hzr.d'tz the t:a�:ic �.: i;.i "e
which is composed of rzpresentatives fron 5::2°G`n'e 42 oOCY�� -
local commenirr councils,businzss associa- �I:.l Klassen oFthz SL Paul Puoiic �.�or.:;
'tionsandocherne:ghboihood�rouos,hopes Dzpa:tment respondzd tha[ probi�c:> al-
to make a recomnendation'on thz future of readv esistir.g at somz intersections cs ;no;
thero2dway:n19S3. - rzzdilcberecufiedwithoutdiveCin�::�;c-c
Connzctino d.d �[ilf Road's south end is A�'d �Iill Road. No solu;ion has be�a _ou�c
simolvamarerofremocingL`�ebarriersnear ferthecapacityproblemsloomin�;;3a::_
JefTerson Avenue and I-3�E. Connzctin� the c'eloh and I-35E or at Selby and Sr.e:;i ,�, j:2
Ayd �.Iill Road's north end to I-94 is another s:�d.
matter.Sevzralconnections, Hzreare44ekeyfindin�sfrointhzz::zivsis:
and interchange layouts are being studizd, • Snzlling Avenue is expected to >ze .h�
and a?I involve 4'�e removal of residential and la:gesc increase in trafric bythe ye;: 30?0.
comme:cial propzrties. Strong opposition to Pza: ai,ernoon rush hour traftic ve•._mz i>
anyconnectiononthenorthendhasblockzd 'c�*readvat2,375vehidesanhoura*._4-�:ir.�
the comple!ion o; Ayd �titl Road since thz - aac Shz:burnz;3,600 at Snzlline and :=_::har;
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Or.e of the ootions still bzeng e;;zd forAyd r.c.mbers are expectzd to intrease o�: z_ e::: :?
Mill is [o do nothing. fioweve:, city and statz perceat-to 2,750, 4, I CO ar.d 2,72=, rzsoec-
officizls say iailcrz to connec; the roadtivay to tiszly—if Ayd Mill is r.ot connzet:? :o ta:
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Pat Byme
VOICE: 266-617i
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Councilmember Benanav's Of
266-8643
243 S. Lexington Parkway
Tuesdav, Januarv 13. 1998
TOTAL NUMBER t?F SHEETS (including this one): �a
REMARKS
Conceminp "lexinqton Commons proposal (�Lexinpton and St. Clair'
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Also. I was sur�ised to hear that anv residents su000rted the oroaosed develooement But then 1
look�d u� their addresses f 1166 and f 172 St. Clair) and nofed thev are not in our neiqhborhood but
across the freeway from the or000sed developemerrt T hank vou for distnbutina this
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� To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paui,
Good Afternoon .
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I'm here to read a letter signed by ail af my neighbors. I'd like to note that aimost
all of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the
five public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown
up for at least one of the five private meetings held in various neighbor's homes
or rented community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people
living next to the site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington
Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the tollowing list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
• ProperEy Acquisition
The property consists of two loes. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked
� lot behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surplus county
property for hundreds of dollars. It was deemed valueless or near so then
because of it's unsuitability for development. We are not saying you can't
develop properey because it was deemed valueless at some point in its history.
We just want to be clear that there is no mayor investment or livelihood that we
are threatening with denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of value of their property. It
has accurately been described as valueless in past, peopie have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
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• Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to
deveiop the property under the existing zoning before issuing a speciai use
permit. The owner has not done this. 'Fhere has never been a discussion of
developing the site as zoned_ The site is zoned single family residential, and the
owner has not tried to put singie family residential there. This can happen with
no changes, to the property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen,
with some changes, to the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this
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Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
• Aliey Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two,
not one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone
involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
AlI the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have
happened already due to combination of density of existing traffic and proximity
of the alley (125'} to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the aliey would require a paved surface 16' wide_ This
would require removal of the trees in the ailey and supporting of existing
structures.
• Existing Property Values
Initially some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. it was
thought that if you put new housing woxth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an
existing oId house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would
actually devalue the existing house. However at one of our private meetings we
invited a number of real estate professionats to speak to us. Two of them inform
us this would not be the case. However both were very emphatic that amenities
to the neighborhood are indeed lost, and that their statements on property value
were very much contingent on the proposal being completed and completed
correctly.
However even with this assurance sume are still fearful. This concern was listed
in this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made awaxe of who the developer is. I'd like to return
to this issue a bit later.
• Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
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2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the wamings issued by the railraad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has
indicated that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a
minimum of two schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
developments.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the
very least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this,
no soil barings have been performed. Instead, slab on grade construction has
been proposed.
4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; wiil it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears
that if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving
a mess behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more
deviation or variances, because there will be a need to restore the site inio
something usable. In 1978 Roger Vik pr�posed apartment buildings with
underground garages. Will this proposal come back?
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
stnzctures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. The anly really compatib2e item will be that
they house people.
You go from a 64' or 9Q+' by 25' structures with attached garages of 800 sq feet for
a total of 24Q0 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging
from 600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go Erom a mixEure over SQ years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
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� The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a pubiic street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to �200,000
Again the requirement is far granting a special use permit that compatibility
exists. Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation
of the word compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non
existent one. We believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word
`compatible' is being stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
• Safety
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We feel staff and P1aruling Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the
ptoposal be safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use
permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionals in municipal traffic and municipal engineering
testify that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments
are on public record. There has been no conflicEing testimony from City Staff,
engineering or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as
to distance from a signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight
requirements, and that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, carne
from staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning
commission. Later at another public meeting the same planning commission
member, when quizzed on how informative Public Works was, stated his
disappointment in them. While he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion
he was disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is safe'. We, the
neighbors, are equally disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is
unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this issue later.
Again, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal
engineering and municipal traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions.
One was very descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills,
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. distracting characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff
and they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they
could or would not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safery hazards by requiring a no
le£t turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This
inadequately address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the
two hills Iocated right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to
look like a driveway, not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no
corresponding effort to regulate left turns into the site from north bound
Lexington Parkway, again causing an unexpected road blockage for norEh bound
traffic and crossing over south bound traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason
to condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over
decades and correcting them may not be practical now.
Storm Water Mana� ment
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements
� that are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement
being applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of induscrial or
business expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas or in
park areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the
developer seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon
this particular safety issue.
Parking On Lexington
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington
Parkway, on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing
private property, with the end resuit be3ng that guest of residents on Lexington
end up parking on Lexington, you will almost for sure be causing a tatality.
Residents have done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight
and observing the number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents
occurred almost every signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be
__ conducted_ This issue has not been addressed at all by staff because it is a- ---
seconctary effect of the proposal. But without this proposal it would not happen
at all.
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This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a halt way house moving in, or a]ibrary, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the awner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
• Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development
where the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged
� and deveiopment within existing highly dense sites is to beencourage. There are
plenty of sites within the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential
use. You have the old Amhoist site between Robert and Wabasha, you have
river front sites in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, ,you have the
Phalen Corridor with it's accompanyuig light industrial. These alone offer the
opportunities for 1000's of residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it
worth an investment by the community at large, you can mave on to cleaning
up contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around
a little bet#er, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no
problems with compaYibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be
planned sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good
example.
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The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Councit Policy.
'They have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of
variations of deveioping this site including one not significantly different then
what you are iooking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at
an earlier public hearing to recommend denial.
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� The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with
this policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this
neighborhood. We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way
of complying with the Met Council. Furthermore, the process we have been
subjected to appears to be somewhat willy nilly. The developer has offered many
variations of basically the same problem proposal but changing it enough at the
last minute to make it a difficult moving target. For the last change, offered 5
minutes before the zoning committee meeting, no prepared comments from the
residents were possible. Even complete staff apgroval had to be estimated by the
staff present at the meeting. This did not appear to be the way to decide a
community's future.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
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We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack o€ tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy. However they are willing to state off the record
they do not think so, and in fact think this is a bad example of compiying with
that policy. But there is no departmental procedure for getting that opinion to
you. There is no where an avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a
vacuum from the City on what appears to be the majar impetus for granting
approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answez to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative word because we have an official stance of neutrality and we can't risk
having a Iawyer sue us because our professionai opinion may make it hard for
them to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at
the storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance_
However also note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibility of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of
Parks was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't
make the decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park
staff to ask them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing
them without being requested they run into problems with setting precedence,
etc. and that isn't easy to explain or deal with.
Is staEf really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 24Q0 square foot townhouse
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no trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of siucco,
and wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed
yards off set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the
policy makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this
direction. We are aware that there is a pluralistic society of tax payers and citizens
out there and that they all have their concerns and needs. But we also feel tough
answers to tough questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we
with our 400 yearsof invesYment in this community, are members of that society
aiso.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks
this is a good idea and whether ar not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter
come over and make a definite statement that ponding sites in residentiai
neighborhoods are needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement
that Ehis is a good example of complying with Met Council Policy.
� As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru� all the various puhlic hearings cited by advocates of
this proposal, both at the District Council and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal piease tell the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Council three times on
this issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multiple variations that were not viewed ahead of time. In each case
the neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and
even citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him
earlier.
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sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them.
The first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning
committee where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and
negotiate, he no longer was willing to do so.
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However after members of the zoning commission stated they wouid view
favorably the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did
discuss alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the
developer. An agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues,
mainly the alIey access, but nowhere near all issues. Before the neighborhood
coordinator could get all the responses from the rest of the neighborhood, the
developer had called back and said there were problems. It was with this
information we attended the zoning committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the full Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson
of the Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposa] as
having neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to
the fulI commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood
support was the issue of not using the alley outletting to St. Clair Avenue by
future owners or guests ot future owners of the town homes. Public record from
the second of the two dates for the public hearing in front of the zoning
committee show that the Matherns never came to an agreement on any other
issue, that they found problem with the proposed agreement before it could be
presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years ot time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council, pay attention to these findings and find Ehem cause for
denying what many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not
destruetion of our neighborhood.
• EarYier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted bya Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the
documents as 'The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage
Corporations for two lots they purchased and that the debt was a Iittle over half a
million. This occurred in October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot of
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� people. However in 1992 there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or
delayed their creditors, failed to produce adequate financial records, and
knowingly made false oaths. It appears that it was further found that the courts
held that substantial evidence to support an inference of fraudulent intent bythe
Mathems. An appeal court found the Matherns failed to set forth affirmative
admissible evidence to rebut the considerable circumstantial evidence of
fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attorney
chose to not have the fulf material released in a package to planning
commission members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their
decision making capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting
attorney was included. Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this
decision by the City Attorney. As noted abave staff and now commission
members are limited as to what they can say or do.
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However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we tear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond for complying with alt the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to explore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our alternatives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We reatize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
VVhy has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for public record 'they wouId never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition
and in alt past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as
is now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first
alternative is to do just fhaE on the lot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone
else in the neighborhood has.
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I HELEN H CURRIER
I 1 t 16 ST. C�AIR AVENUE
I LOT 9, RUETH'S ADDITION
I DAVID A& HELEN L SCHULTZ
I t 120 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
1 LOT 10, RUETH'S ADDiTION
I JOEL M& CHARLOTTE PATROS
I 1126 ST. CLA1R AVENUE
I LOT 11, RUETH'S ADQITION
I ALICE L PETERSON
I 113� ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 12, RUETH'S ADDITION
I MARGARET H MARKS
I 1134 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
i LOT i3, RUETH'S ADDITION
I SUSAN E WAGNER
1 1138 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 14, RUETH'S ADDITION
f CRAIG & BERYL P BOE
I 1142 ST. Cl1aIR AVENUE
-- I LOT 15, RUETH'S ADDITIOI�I _
I JAMES W& LISA R SWYERS
I 1146 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to canstruct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor`s concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received alt the answers.
This is our petition to the City Council of St. Paui from the following residents:
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I MII.KA P& TODD THORESEN
I 1152 ST. CLAtR AYENUE
I LOT 17, RUETH'S ADDITiON
I SETH M ANDERSON
I 1156 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I E 40 FT OF LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
i MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
I 1160 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
f WITH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
I E 40 FT LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
I PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BI.ANK
I 243 S. I.EXIIVGTON PARKWAY
I N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT i,
I RUETH'S ADDITION
I CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
I 251 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
{ EX N 1 O FT, LOT 2, RUETH'S ADD{TION
I KEIYH LANE CURTNER
1 259 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 3, RUETH'S ADDITION
I ALBERTA L 81NKER
I 263 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, RUETH'S ADDITION
I HEI.ENE G OSTROW
I 269 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
1 RUETH'S ADDtTION
I CHRlSTOPHER WALKER
I 273 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 6, RUE7H'S ADDITION
I ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
I 279 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, RUETH'S ADD�TION
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I 283 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 2 FT OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOT 8,
I RUETH'S ADDITION
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Aftemoon. My name is Pat Byrne and I reside at 243 S. Lexington Parkway.
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. However as a courtesy, the
letter was provide to you before hand and Its been indicated that it has been read by
the Council Members. It is important to the signers of that letter that it is read or
listened to as this is their first opportunity to speak to a public representative in this
process. Anyway I'm going to summarize that letter instead of reading it. However I
will read the summary. (I'm not sure if it is the reading or the length that bores
people and puts them to sleep). I'd like to note it is a very concemed group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors that share in this appeal. It consists
of 100% of the people living next to the site and incfudes neighbors on the other
side of Lexington Parkway. If possible I'd like to have those neighbors stand up,
especially those who do not like to speak in public.
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process pertormed by
both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the following list of comments
however you will note that we address both those errors and omissions and repeat a
number of comments we have made in the fast five public meetings held discussing
this issue.
I apologize to the signers if this seems briefer then it should, and I apologize to the
Council if it seems longer then it should.
! Property Acquisition
The site was acquired for very little money back in the 70's. It was deemed
worthless then and has been deemed almost worthfess since then by both ihe
owner and Ramsey County property taxing system. We are not depriving someone
from their livelihood. I'd like to note at this time an error in the letter sent out. It was
not acquired as surplus county property.
! Minimum Requirements
There has never been a discussion of developing the site as a single family
residential site and therefore not requiring anyone to go thru this process.
Ostensibly one of the reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
I'd note that one of the requirements is to minimize alterations of the natural
features and topography. The plan proposes the removal of most if not a�l of the
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trees on this site.
! Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two, not
one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet Everyone involved
has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased traffic on the
alley.
All the residents agree this would not be good to ailow. Accidents have happened
already due to cambination af density of existing traffic and proximity of the alley
(125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surtace 16' wide. This wouid
require removai of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing structures.
! Existing Property Values
As noted those people right next to the proposed 150,000 units feel their 60,000
would not sell due to contrast. However two real estate agents, while acknowledging
that amenities are reduced, property values should not be affected. However they
noted this is only true if done right and if done completely as the plan indicates.
However even with this assurance some are still fearful. This concern was listed in
this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made this
disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is.
! Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viabiiity of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill from
the development.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the very
least an abandoned dump site.
4)The site proposal calis for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane expressway
or into a linear park?
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5) There are fears the developer wili walk if the units don't seil even though he has
assured us they will sell like hotcakes. And then what will the City allow to happen
on the site to salvage it
! Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states AThe design wili be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood@.
We think there is a mistake here. And this is one of the major issues to everyone in
the neighborhood. The only really compatible item will be that they house people.
You go from a 90' by 25' structures with attached garage of 800 sq feet for a total
3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from 600 square feet
to 900 square feet. The attached garage is bigger then some of the houses
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metaf
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple family
housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with yards and
boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the trees
removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own unique
characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a special use permit that compatibility exists.
Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story structures
with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation of the word
compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non existent one. We
believe of the envelope ofi possibie interpretations of the word `compatible' is being
stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
! Safety
Another requirement is that `The use will not be detrimental to the existing character
of the development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger public health,
safety, and general welfare'
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of safety,
either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. This is the second major
issue with the neighborhood.
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Traffic
The pubVic record contains assessments by engineering professionals that the
proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe, and there has been no conflicting
testimony from City Staff. In fact when asked directly if they could say the neighbor's
assessment was incorrect we got a negative answer.
The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance from a
signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight requirements, and that it is as safe
as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came from
staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning commission who
fater expressed unhappiness with the response level, as we have though 1 suspect
for different reasons. He was fooking for a clear statement that is was safe and we
were looking for a clear statement that it was unsafe.
As an aside to the letter I'd like to point out that surviving the review process is not a
statement from City Staff that it is safe. It is a statement from staff that it met
distance from signalized intersection standards and it met line of sight standards.
That is all.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a no left
turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This at best
addresses about 20°l0 ofi the traffic safety issue and was done with no consultation
at sll with traSfic professionals.
Storm Water Manaaement
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. As a Water resource professionaf I have found this to be
intrinsically unsafe in residential areas where chifdren are or in areas where their
existence is a surprise.
Parkina On Lexinqton
One end result of the proposal, whether directly or indirectly, will be a definite
increase in Parking on Lexington Parkway. Parking on Lexington will lead to many
traffic accidents and I will easily state, traffic fatalities. There has been no comment
or review or contribution to discussion on this item from anyone within the City.
In the list of major accident areas throughout the city, Lexington Parkway already
occupies 1t8 of that list.
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! Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a`not in my neighborhood you don'Y issue. Yes, we like the open space.
Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land focked lot
couid not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look out at the
24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the back remain
patatabie. It's kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right to
access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
famity housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We ofEer
alternatives later.
As you review the permitted uses in the zoning law you will note that all non single
family residential uses are all socially benefiting items fike churches, schools,
libraries, transitional housing, battered women and children residences, hospices,
etc. Even Cluster development was there to provide more green space. But as
noted elsewhere that also required compatibility and safety.
We are offering reaf acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
! Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
Our community council is on record as strongly agreeing with the principles
espoused in the Metropolitan councils regional blueprint cal{ing for decrease in
urban sprawl and an increase in redevelopment of St. Paul sites. This community
councii is also on record as opposing this particular development
This proposal is not a good example of complying with that policy. We feel the
pressure is misplaced. We know the Mayor's office wants development of over 600
sites within the City. In off record comments we know that PED has been `nice' to
this developer. There is a push to get this redevelopment process going. But I listed
possible examples in the letter. Those sites �end themselves to a coordinated
planned community with no one to complain. They exist now. Just Iook across the
freeway to the Wiider Site.
I woufd also like to say as a manager of various programs that I feel the best way to
a successful program is early simpfe successes, to make sure in your very first
implementations to have everything well thought out, with special attention, to not
use the easier method o4 seeing what happens and then make corrections as you
get into the bulk of a program. No one in the neigh6orhood or community council is
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arguing with the policy. Just that this is the wrong way to start it, whether in our
neighborhood or anyone eise's neighborhood. With over 400 years of investment in
this City we deserve better then this. The City deserves better then this.
! Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some reai serious concems about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or approach is
there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the City's professional
staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting expectations set by that
policy.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question `is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Why do we get vague answers like it as
safe as a driveway to Maryland Avenue, or safety is a relative thing?
Why can't the city address the Parking issue before someone gets killed. Why can't
Staff suggest a variance before a developer asks for it?
How do we manage to get the statement that a vinyl sided 3000 square foot
structure on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no trees worth
$200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and wood
housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards off set
from public streets and Bivd?
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Ms Becker have staff
come and make a definitive statement on whether or not they thinks this is a good
idea and whether or not they thinks it is safe; whether it be traffic, parking or ponds.
to have Ms. Wheelock or staff make the statement that this is a good example of
compfying with Met Council Policy.
If you do approve this proposal please tefl the residents that you have determined i
to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined that it is compatible
with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no possibility of developing
these sites as zoned; and have determined that the cluster development does
preserve and/or increase green space.
! Community Involvement
The community has met many times with Summit Hill Council, with themselves, with
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pianning commission people. We have been asked to give our opinions on plans
that have been changed on us at the last minute. We have sent {etters with issues.
We have asked quest+ons. One of the main reasons cited by the community
council for not approving the the plan was the developers unwillingness to answer
our questions. However we have met with the developer after he was severely
prompted to by the planning commission. However no agreement was ever reached
with the developer.
A partial agreement was reached about the alley. However this agreement was
blown up to the extent that Mr. Field, Chairperson of the Zoning Committee
appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having neighborhood support.
He repeated this position a number of times to the fufl commission.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to al{ of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with a
total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that you, the
City Council address these concerns find them cause for denying what many in the
area feel will lead to the degradation if not destruction of our neighborhood.
! Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right. In our letter we
addressed this issue. It basicalfy was that, because of public records brought to our
attention we have strong doubts as the suitability and ability of Mendota Homes to
develop this site. This was not due to the bankruptcy issues as much as to the
findings by the court that there was substantial evidence of know+ngly making false
oaths and inference of fraudulent intent. An appeals court also found against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professionai capabilities of a developer are questioned and
evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for calming
those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an altemative as we have other
ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that the
performance bond for complying with all the provisions of the site plan review be
expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is within a 18
month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month time table, and
that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the developer or the
owners. We would like the City to explore this or something similar. Again we are
not offering this as an alternative, just something to be done in case our alternatives
are rejected.
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! Alternatives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to ofEer altematives
or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission members
noted for public record `they would never buy it'? Why has it required so much effort
and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition and in all past
renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted earlier, there has not been a proposal to develop as a single family
housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is to do just that on the lot on
Lexington Par4cway, just like everyone eise in the neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns and
statements. Please slow down, please respond to alt of the concerns, please make
sure you have asked all the questio�s and received all the answers.
Before I summarize I like to show this tape prepared by some residents; it was
prepared for one of the initial discussion with the community council.
Tape
We had proposed another video but I'm going to have to ask you to use your
imagination on this one. The video was going to go back and forth between a
picture of the houses in our community, which you have seen, and a picture of a
suburban cul-de-sac with double and triple townhouses all in uniform color and vinyl
and no or little trees, again which I assume most of you have seen before.
In Summary (of a summary)
We feef a major issues is compatibility with the neighborhood. We feel the envelope
of possible interpretations of that requirement has been extremely enlarge and
furthermore pushed in the wrong direction
We feel a major issue is safety in traffic, in parking, and in ponding requirements.
We also feel that the City has not responded adequately or at all to these concerns,
and that you cannot site passing a review process as an adequate addressing of
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direct concerns, especiaNy if those questions are not part of the review process.
We feel issues of alley use is a major safery issue.
We feel a major issue is that cluster deve{opments should lead to increased green
space.
We feei the issues of property vatue, ofi viability of the project, ofi proper
management are important.
We feel there are more acceptable alternatives, development alternative and they
should be the only ones ailowed.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Aftemoon .
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. I'd like to note that almost ali
of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the five
public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown up for at
least one of the five private meetings he�d in various neighbor's homes or rented
community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of �eighbors and a
very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people living next to the
site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed by
both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the foliowing list of comments
however you wili note that we address both those errors and omissions and repeat a
number of comments we have made in the last five public meetings held discussing
ihis issue.
! Property Acquisition
The property consists of finro lots. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked lot
behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surpius county property
for hundreds of dollars. ft was deemed valuefess or near so then because of iYs
unsuitability for development. We are not saying you can't develop property
because it was deemed valusless at some point in its history. We just want to be
clear that there is no major investment or livelihood that we are threatening with
denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of va{ue of their property. It has
accurately been described as valueless in past, people have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
! Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to develop
the p�oQerty under the existing zoning before issuing a special use permit. The
owner has not done this. There has never been a discussion of developing the site
as zoned. The site is zoned single family residential, and the owner has not tried to
put single family residential there. This can happen with no changes, to the
property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen, with some changes, to
the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this concept later.
Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
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development is to preserve and increase green space, to c�uster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
I Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two, not
one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone involved
has aiready reached a minimum proposal to not aliow major increased traffic on the
alley.
All the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have happened
already due to combination of densiry of existing traffic and proximity of the alley
(125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surface 16' wide. This wou{d
require removal of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing structures.
! Existing Property Values
Initiafly some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. It was thought
that if you put new housing worth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an existing old
house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would actually devalue the
existing house. However at one of our private meetings we invited a number of real
estate professionals to speak to us. Two of them inform us this wouid not be the
case. However both were very emphatic that amenities to the neighborhood are
indeed fost, and that their statements on property value were very much contingent
on the proposal being completed and completed correct�y.
However even with this assurance some are stiil fearful. This concern was listed in
this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made this
disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is. I'd like io return to this
issue a bit later.
! Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hiil from
the deve{opment. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has indicated
that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a minimum of two
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schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the very
least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this, no soii
borings have been performed. Instead, siab on grade consiruction has been
p�aposed.
4)The site proposal cails for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane expressway
or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears that
if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving a mess
behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more deviation or
variances, because there will be a need to restore the site into something usable. In
1978 Roger Vik proposed apartment buildings with underground garages. Wil1 this
proposal come back?
! Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states AThe design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood@.
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. 7he onfy reafly compatible item wilf be that they
house people.
You go from a 64' or 90+' by 25' structures with attached garages of 800 sq feet for
a total of 2400 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from
600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple family
housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with yards and
boulevards to a cuf-de-sac with afmost no yard space and most of the trees
removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own unique
characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
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$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a specia! use Qermit that compatibility exists.
Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story structures
with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation of the word
compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non existent one. We
believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word `compatible' is being
stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
! Safety
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of safety,
either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the proposal be
safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionals in municipal tra�c and municipal engineering testify
that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments are on
public record. There has been no conflicting testimony from City Staff, engineering
or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance
from a signa4ized intersection, that it meets Iine of sight requirements, and that it is
as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came from
staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning commission.
Later at another public meeting the same planning commission member, when
quizzed on how informative Public Works was, stated his disappointment in them.
While he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion he was disappointed because
staff would not say directly `it is safe'. We, the neighbors, are equally disappointed
because staff would not say directly `it is unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this
issue later.
/�qain, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal engineering
and municipal traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions. One was very
descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills, distracting
characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff and
they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they could or
woufd not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate ane of these safety hazards by requiring a no left
turn during rush hour traffic sign as you Ieave the development. This inadequately
address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the two hills located
right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to look like a driveway,
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not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no corrssponding effort to
regulate left turns into the site from north bound Lexington Parkway, again causing
an unexpected road blockage for north bound traffic and crossing over south bound
traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason to
condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over decades
and correcting them may not be practicai now.
Storm Water Manaqement
There is a requirement that calis for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements that
are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement being
applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of industrial or business
expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsicaily unsafe in residential areas or in park
areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the developer
seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon this particular
safety issue.
Parkinq On Lexinqton
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington Parkway,
on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing private
property, with the end result being that guest of residents on Lexington end up
parking on Lexington, you wifl afmost for sure be causing a fatafity. Residents have
done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight and observing the
number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents occurred almost every
signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be conducted. This issue has
not been addressed at all by staff because it is a secondary effect of the proposal.
But without this proposal it would not happen at all.
! Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a`not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open space.
Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land focked lot
could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look out at the
24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the back remain
palatable. IYs kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right to
access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
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family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriatefy has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
altematives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usabie by you the decision makers.
! Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development where
the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged and
development within existing highly dense sites is to be encourage. There are plenty
of sites within the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential use. You
have the old Amhoist site between Robert and Wabasha, you have river front sites
in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, you have the Phalen Corridor with
iYs accompanying light industrial. These alone offer the opportunities for 1000's of
residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it worth an
investment by the community at large, you can move on to cleaning up
contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around a little
better, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no problems
with compatibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be planned
sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good example.
The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Council Policy. They
have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of variations of
developing this site including one not significantly different then what you are
looking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at an earlier public
hearing to recommend denial.
The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with this
policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this neighborhood.
We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way of complying with
the Met Councit. Furthermore, the process we have been subjected to appears to be
somewhat willy nilly. Tne deve►oper has offered many variations of basicafly the
same probfem proposaf but changing it enough at the last minute to make it a
difficult moving target. For the �ast change, offered 5 minutes before the zoning
committee meeting, no prepared comments from the residents were possible. Even
complete staff approval had to be estimated by the staff present at the meeting. This
did not appear to be the way to decide a community's future.
! Tough Questions, Tough Answers
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We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue ofi the Met Councii Policy. No where in staff's answers or approach is
there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the City's professional
staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting expectations set by that
poficy. However they are willing to state off the record they do not think so, and in
fact think this is a bad example of complying with that policy. But there is no
departmental procedure for getting that opinion to you. There is no where an
avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a vacuum from the City on what
appears to be the major impetus for granting approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question `is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative word because we have an official stance of neutrality and we can't risk
having a lawyer sue us because our professional opinion may make it hard for them
to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at the
storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance.
However aiso note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibifity of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of Parks
was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't make the
decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park staff to ask
them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing them without
being requested they run into problems with setting precedence, etc. and that isn't
easy to explain or deal with.
Is staff really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 2400 square foot townhouse
with attached garages on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no
trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and
wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards off
set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the policy
makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this direction. We are
aware that there is a pluralistic society of tax payers and citizens out there and that
they all have their concerns and needs, But we also feel tough answers to tough
questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we with our 400 years of
investment in this community, are members of that society also.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
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engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks this is a
good idea and whetfier or not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter come over
and make a defnite statement that ponding sites in residential neighborhoods are
needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement that this is a good
example of compfying with Met Councif Policy.
As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru all the various public hearings cited by advocates of this
proposal, both at the District Council and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal please tell the residents that you have determined it
to be safe for traffc, parking, children; have indeed determined that it is compatible
with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no possibility of developing
these sites as zoned; and have determined that the cluster development does
preserve and/or increase green space.
! Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Councif three times on this
issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multipte variations that were not viewed ahead ofi time. In each case the
neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and even
citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him earlier.
Along with a lack of response at the format meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them. The
first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning committee
where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and negotiate, he no
longer was willi�g to do so.
However after members of the zoning commission stated they would view favorably
the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did discuss
alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the developer. An
agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues, mainly the alley
access, but nowhere near all issues. Betore the neighborhood coordinator could get
alf the responses firom the rest of the neighborhood, the developer had called back
and said there were problems. It was with this information we attended the zoning
committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the fufl Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson of the
Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having
neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to the full
commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood support was the
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issue of not using the a11ey outletting to St. Clair Avenue by future owners or guests
af future owners of the town homes. Pub{ic record from the second of the two dates
for the public hearing in front of the zoning committee show that the Matherns never
came to an agreement on any other issue, that they found problem with the
proposed agreement before it could be presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with a
total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that you, the
Ciry Council, pay attention to these findings and find them cause for denying what
many in the area feef will lead to the degradation 'rf not destruction of our
neighborhood.
! Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viabi�ity and about property values and the
rea� estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted by a Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the documents
as `The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage Corporations for two
lots they purchased and that the debt was a IittVe over half a milfion. This occurred in
October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot o4 people. However in 1992
there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or delayed their creditors, failed
to produce adequate financial records, and knowingly made false oaths. It appears
that it was further found that the courts held that substantia� evidence to support an
inference of fraudulent intent by the Matherns. An appeal court found the Matherns
failed to set forth affirmative admissible evidence to rebut the considerable
circumstantial evidence of fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attomey
chose to not have the full material released in a package to planning commission
members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their decision making
capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting attorney was included.
Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this decision by the City Attorney.
As noted above staff and now commission members are Iimited as to what they can
say or do.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned and
evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for calming
those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we have other
ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that the
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perFormance bond for compiying with all the provisions of the site plan review be
expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is within a 18
month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month time table, and
that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by eitfier the developer or the
owners. We would like the City to explore this or something similar. Again we are
not offering this as an altemative, just something to be done in case our alternatives
are rejected.
! Altematives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer alternatives
or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission members
noted for public record `they wauld never buy iY? Why has it required so much effort
and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition and in all past
renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as is
now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is
to do just that on the lot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone else in the
neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns and
statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please make
sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
This is our petition to the C'ity Council of St. Paul from the following residents:
HELEN H CURRIER
1116 ST. CLAIR Avenue
LOT 9, Rueth's Addition
DAVID A& HELEN L SCHULTZ
1120 ST. CLAIR Avenue
LOT 10, Rueth's Addition
� JOEL M& Charlotte PATROS
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� 1126 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 11, Rueth's Addition
� A�ICE L PETERSON
� 1130 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 12, Rueth's Addition
� MARGARET H MARKS
� 1134 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 13, Rueth's Addition
� SUSAN E WAGNER
� 1138 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 14, Rueth's Addition
� Craig & BERYL P BOE
� 1142 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 15, Rueth's Addition
� JAMES W& LISA R SWYERS
� 1146 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 16, Rueth's Addition
� Milka P& Todd Thoresen
� 1152 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 17, Rueth's Addition
� SETH M ANDERSON
� 1156 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� E 40 FT OF LOT 18, Rueth's Addition
� MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
� 1160 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� WfTH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
� E 40 FT LOT 18, Rueth's Addition
� PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BLANK
� 243 S. Lexington Parkway
j N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT 1,
� Rueth's Addition
� CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
� 251 S. Lexington Parkway
� EX N 1 O FT, LOT 2, Rueth's Addition
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KEITH LANE CURTNER
259 S. Lexington Parkway
LOT 3, Rueth's Addition
� ALBERTA L BINKER
� 263 S. Lexington Parkway
� EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, Rueth's Addition
� HELENE G OSTROW
� 269 S. Lexington Parkway
� S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
� Rueth's Addition
� Christopher WALKER
� 273 S. Lexington Parkway
� LOT 6, Rueth's Addition
ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
279 S. Lexington Parkway
EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, Rueth's Addition
BEVERLY Y DUNBAR
283 S. Lexington Parkway
S 2 FT OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOT 8,
Rueth's Addition
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council ot St. Paul,
Good Afternoon .
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I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. I'd like to note that almost
all of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the
five public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown
up for at least one of the five private meetings held in various neighbor's homes
or rented community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people
living next to the site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington
Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the following list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
• Property Acquisition
The property consists of two lots. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked
lot behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surplus county
property for hundreds of dollars. It was deemed valueless or near so then
because of it's unsuitability for development. We are not saying you cari t
develop property because it was deemed valueless at some point in its history.
We just want to be clear that there is no major investment or livelihood that we
are threatening with denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of value of their property. It
has accurately been described as valueless in past, people have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
• Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to
develop the property under the existing zoning before issuing a special use
permit. The owner has not done this. There has never been a discussion of
developing the site as zoned. The site is zoned single family residential, and the
owner has not tried to put single family residential there. This can happen with
no changes, to the property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen,
with some changes, to the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this
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concept Iater.
Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase gxeen space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
• Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two,
not one, dead end alleys that #urthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone
involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
All the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have
happened already due to combination of density of e�cisting traffic and proximity
of the alley (125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surface 16' wide. This
would require removal of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing
structures.
• Existing Property Values
Initially some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. It was
thought that it you put new housing worth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an
existing old house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would
actually devalue the existing house. However at one of our private meetings we
invited a number of real estate professionals to speak to us. Two of them inform
us this would not be the case. However both were very emphatic that amenities
to the neighborhood are indeed tost, and that their statements on pmperty value
were very much contingent on the proposal being completed and completed
correctly.
However even with this assurance some are still fearfizL This concern was listed
in this leiter for this reason. And to lead into 4he next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is. I'd like to return
to this issue a bit later.
• Viability of the Pmposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
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developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has
indicated that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a
minimum of two schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the
very least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this,
no soil borings have been performed. Instead, slab on grade construction has
been proposed.
4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears
that if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving
a mess behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more
deviation or variances, because there will be a need to restore the site into
something usable. In 1978 Roger Vik proposed apartment buildings with
underground garages. Will this proposal come back?
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. The only really compatibie item will be that
they house people.
You go from a 64' or 90+' by25'structures with attached garages of 800 sqfeet for
a total of 2400 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging
from 600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
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The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of tfie
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house tarm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,OOQ to
$I00,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a special use permit that compatibility
exists. Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation
of the word compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non
existent one. We believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word
'compatible' is being stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
• Safety
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the
proposal be safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use
permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionats in municipal traffic and municipal engineering
testify that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments
are on public recard. 'There has been no conflicting testimony from City Staff,
engineering or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as
to distance from a signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight
requirements, and that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came
from staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning
commission. Later at another public meeting the same planning commission
member, when quizzed on how informative Public Works was, statea his
disappointment in them. Whi1e he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion
he was disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is safe'. We, the
neighbors, are equally disappointed because staff would not say directly `it is
unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this issue later.
Again, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal
engineering and municipai traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions.
One was very descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills,
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distracting characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff
and they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they
could or would not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a n o
left turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development_ This
inadequately address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the
Ywo hills located right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to
look like a driveway, not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no
corresponding effort to regulate left turns into the site from north bound
Lexington Parkway, again causing an unexpected road blockage for north bound
traffic and crossing over south bound traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason
to condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over
decades and correcting them may not be practical now.
Storm Water Management
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements
that are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement
being applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of industrial or
business expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas or in
park areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the
developer seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon
this particular safety issue.
Parking On Lexin�ton
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington
Parkway, on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing
private property, with the end result being that guest of residents on Lexington
end up parking on Lexington, you will almost for sure be causing a fatality.
Residents have done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight
and observing the number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents
occurred almost every signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be
conducted. This issue has not been addressed at ail by staff because it is a
secondary effect of the proposal. But without this proposal it would not happen
at all.
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• Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don t' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a'no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. ALso this is not depriving the owner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons tor denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
• Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development
where the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged
and development within existing highly dense sites is to be encourage. There are
plenty of sites wifhin the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential
use. You have the old Amhoist site befween Robert and Wabasha, you have
river front sites in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, you have the
Phalen Corridor with it's accompanying Iight industrial. These alone offer the
opportunities for 1000's of residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it
worth an investment by the community at large, you can move on to cleaning
up contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around
a little better, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
'They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no
problems with compatibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be
planned sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good
example.
The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Council Policy.
They have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of
variations of developing this site including one not significantly different then
what you are looking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at
an earlier public hearing to recommend denial.
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The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with
this policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this
neighborhood. We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way
of complying with the Met Council. Furthermore, the process we have been
subjected to appears to be somewhat willy nilly. The developer has offered many
variations of basically fihe same problem proposal but changing it enough at the
last minute to make it a difficult moving target. For the last change, offered 5
minutes before the zoning committee meeting, no prepared comments from the
residents were possibie. Even complete staff approval had to be estimated by the
staff present at the meeting. This did not appear to be the way to decide a
community's future.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good exampie of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy. However they are willing to state off the record
they do not think so, and in fact think this is a bad example of complying with
that policy. But there is no departmental procedure for getting that opinion to
you. There is no where an avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a
vacuum from the City on what appears to be the majar impetus for granting
approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why cari t a citizen get an answer to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative ward because we have an official stance of neutrality and we cari t risk
having a lawyer sue us because our professional opinion may make it hard for
them to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at
the storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance.
However also note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibility of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of
Parks was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't
make the decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park
staff to ask them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing
them without being requested they run into problems with setting precedence,
etc. and that isn t easy to explain or dea] with.
Is staff really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 2406 square foot townhouse
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with attached garages on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and
no trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco,
and wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed
yards off set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the
policy makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this
direction. We are aware that there is a pluralisiic society of tax payers and citizens
out there and Ehat Ehey all have their concerns and needs. But we also feel tough
answers to tough questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we
with our 400 years of investment in this community, are members of that society
aIso.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
dne suggestion we would Iike to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks
this is a good idea and whether or not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter
come over and make a definite statement that ponding sites in residential
neighborhoods are needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement
that this is a good example of complying with Met Council Policy.
As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru all the various public hearings cited by advocates of
this proposal, both at the District Councii and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal please te11 the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Council three times on
this issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multiple variations that were not viewed ahead of time. In each case
the neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and
even citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him
earlier�
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Along with a lack of response at the formal meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them.
The first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning
committee where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and
negotiate, he no longer was willing to do so.
However after members of the zoning commission stated they would view
favorably the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did
discuss alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the
developer. An agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues,
mainly the alley access, but nowhere near all issues. Before the neighborhood
coordinator could get all the responses from the rest of the neighborhood, the
developer had called back and said there were problems. It was with this
information we attended the zoning committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the full Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson
of the Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as
having neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to
the full commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood
support was the issue of not using the alley outletting to St. Clair Avenue by
future owners or guests of future owners of the town homes. Public record from
the second of the two dates for the public hearing in front of the zoning
committee show that the Matherns never came to an agreement on any other
issue, that they found problem with the proposed agreement before it could be
presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council, pay attention to these findings and find them cause for
denying what many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not
destruction of our neighborhood.
• Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Eariier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted by a Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the
documents as 'The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage
Corporations for two lots they purchased and that the debtwas a little over half a
million. This occurred in October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot of
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people. However in 1992 there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or
delayed their creditors, failed to produce adequate financial records, and
knowingly made false oaths. It appears that it was further found that the courts
held that substantial evidence to support an inference of fraudu�ent intent bythe
Matherns. An appeal court found the Matherns failed to set forth affirmative
admissible evidence to rebnt the considerable circumstantial evidence of
fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attorney
chose to not have the full material released in a package to planning
commission members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their
decision making capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting
attorney was included. Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this
decision by the City Attorney. As noted above staff and now commission
members are lunited as to what they can say or do.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond for complying with all the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to explore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our altematives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for pubIic record 'they would never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition
and in all past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as
is now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first
alternative is to do just that on the tot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone
else in the neighborhood has.
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Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road_
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narzow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
This is our petition to the City Council of St. Paul from the following residents:
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I 1120 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 10, RUETH'S ADDITION
I HELEN H CURRIER
, I 1116 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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I JOEL M& CHARLOTTE PATROS
I 1126 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 11, RUETH'S ADDITION
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I ALICE L PETERSON
I 1130 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 12, RUETH'S ADDITION
I MARGARET H MARKS
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I SETH M ANDERSON
I 1156 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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I MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
�I 1160 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BLANK
243 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT 1,
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I CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
I 251 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
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I 259 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 3, RUETN'S ADDITION
I ALBERTA L 81NKER
I 263 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, RUETH'S ADDITION
1 HELENE G OSTROW
I 269 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
i RUETH'S ADDITION
z� �Z/��v, I CHRISTOPHER WALKER
f 273 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 6, RUETH'S ADDITION
I ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
� 279 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, RUETH'S ADD�TION
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I 283 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Afternoon. My name is Pat Byrne and I reside at 243 S. Lexington Parkway.
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. However as a courtesy, /�
the letter was provide to yot�ef re hand and Its been indicated that it has been d�ii,/�, JYL
read by the Council Members.�mportant to the signers of that letter that it is
read or listened to as this is their first opportunity to speak to a public
�.�C representative in this process. Anyway I'm going to summarize that letter
t���"' instead of reading it. However I will read the summary. (I'm not sure if it is the
�4 ll reading or the length that bores people and puts them to sleep). I'd like to note it
is a very concerned group of neighbors and a very united group of neighbors that
��,� / share in this appeal. It consists of 100°lo of the people living ext to the site and
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We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Pianning Commission Members. In the following list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
I apologize to the signers if this seems briefer then it should, and I apologize to
the Council if it seems longer then it should.
• Property Acquisition,
The site was acquired for very little money back in the 70's. It was deemed
worthless then and has been deemed almost worthless since then by both the
owner and Ramsey County property taxing system. ' g
� p f* �n'-��:-_�'�•�, I'd like to note at this time an error in the letter
sent out. It was not acquired as surplus county property.
• Minirnum Requirements
There has never been a discussion of developing the site as a single family
residential site and therefore not requiring anyone to go thru this process.
Ostensibly one of the reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
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I'd note that one of the requirements is to minimize alterations of the natural
features and topography. The plan proposes the removai of most if not all of the
trees on this site.
• Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for mos of residents �. It is two,
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involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
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happened already due to combination of density of existing traffic and proximity
of the alley (125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
As noted those people right next to the proposed 150,OQQ units feel their 6�,�0�
would not sell due to contrast. However two real estate agents, while
acknowledging that amenities are reduced, property values should not be
affected. However they noted this is only true if done right and if done
compietely as the plan indicates.
However even with this assurance some are still fearful. This concern was listed
in this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is.
• Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued bythe railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development.
3) T`here has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soiis or at the
very least an abandoned dump site.
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• Existing Property Values
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4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) There are fears the developer will walk if the units don't sell even though he
has assured us they will sell like hotcakes. And then what will the City allow to
happen on the site to salvage it
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
We think there is a mistake here. And this is one of the major issues to
everyone in the neighborhood. The only really compatible item will be that they
house people.
You go from a 90' by 25' structures with attached garage of 800 sq feet for a total
3�0 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from 600 square feet
to 900 square feet. The attached garage is bigger then some of the houses
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
• Safety
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Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
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Another requirement is that 'The use will not be detrimentai to the existing
character of the development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger
public health, safety, and general welfare'
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at ail. This is the
second major issue with the neighborhood.
Traffic
The public record contains assessments by engineering professionals that the
proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe, and there has been no
conflicting testimony from City Staff. In fact when asked directly if they could say
the neighbor's assessment was incorrect we got a negative answer.
The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance from a
signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight requirements, and that it is as
safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it i�, a�s safe
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tks an aside to the letter I'd like to point out t�at surviving the review process is
not a statement from City Staff that�� is safe. It is a statement from staff that it
met distance from signalized intersection standards and it met line of sight
standards. That is all.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a no
left turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This�a�t
addresses about 20°fo of the traffic safety issue and was done with no consuitation
at all with traffic professionals.
Storm Water Mana ement
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
p\�proposed developed site. As a Water resource professional I have found this to
��' be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas where children are�or in axeas where
��� t�gi� existence is a surprise.
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Parking On Lexi�ton
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One end result of the proposal, whether directiy or indirectly, will be a definite
increase in Parking on Lexington Parkway. Parking on Lexington will lead to
� j many traffic accidents and I will easily state, traffic fatalities. There has been no
� comment or review or contribution to discussion on this item from anyone
within the City.
In the list of major accident areas throughout the city, Lexington Parkway
already occupies 1/8 of that list.
• Not Itt My Neighborhood!
This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a'no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn t a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
As you review the permitted uses in the zoning law you will note that all non
�,, � single family residential uses are ail socially benefiting items like churches,
�`• i, schools, libraries, transitional housing, battered women and children residences,
�v �� hospices, etc. Even Cluster development was there to provide more green space.
�� But as noted elsewhere that also required compatibility and safety.
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We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers_
Council Policy On Urban Development
Our community council is on record as strongly agreeing with the principles
espoused in the Metropolitan councils regional blueprint calling for decrease in
urban sprawl and an increase in redevelopment of St. Paul sites. This
community council is also on recard as opposing this particular development
This proposal is not a good example of complying with that policy. We feel the
pressure is mispiaced. We know the Mayor's office wants development of over
600 sites within the City. In off record comments we know that PED has been
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'nice' to this developer. There is a push to get this redevelopment process going.
,�ut I listed possible examples in the letter. Those sites lend themselves to a
/ coordinated planned community with no one to complain. They exist now. Just
`� look across the freeway to the Wilder Site.
/ I would also like to say as a manager of various programs that I feel the best way
to a successful program is early simple successes, to make sure in your very first
implementations to have everything weil thought out, with special attention, to
� not use the easier method of seeing what happens and then make corrections as
� you get into the bulk of a program. No one in the neighborhood or community
� council is arguing with the policy. Just that this is the wrong way to start it,
whether in our neighborhood or anyone else's neighborhood. With over 400
years of investment in this City we deserve better then this. The City deserves
better then this.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some reai serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Why do we get vague answers like it as
safe as a driveway to Maryland Avenue, or safety is a relative thing?
Why cari t the city address the Parking issue before someone gets killed. Why
cari t Staff suggest a variance before a developer asks for it?
How do we manage to get the statement thaX a vinyl sided 3000 square foot
structure on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no trees
worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and
wood housing with 60� to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards
off set from public streets and Bivd?
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Ms Becker have
staff come and make a definitive statement on whether or not they thinks this is
a good idea and whether or not they thinks it is safe; whether it be traffic, parking
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or ponds. to have Ms. Wheelock or staff make the statement that this is a good
example of complying with Met Council Policy.
If you do approve this proposal please tell the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
� cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• _Community Involvement
The com unity has met many times with Summit Hill Council, with
� themselves, with planning commission people. We have been asked to give our
� opinions on plans that have been changed on us at the last minute. We have
sent letters with issues. We have asked questions. One of the main reasons
cited by the community council for not approving the the plan was the
� developers unwillingness to answer our questions. However we have met with
the developer after he was severely prompted to by the planning commission.
� However no agreement was ever reached with the developer.
A partial agreement was reached about the alley. However this agreement was
� blown up to the extent that Mr. Field, Chairperson of the Zoning Committee
appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having neighborhood
support. He repeated this position a number of times to the full commission.
i result of ali this is that we are united yet in our opposition to ail of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council address these concerns find them cause far denying what
many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not destruction of our
neighborhood.
• Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right. In our letter
we addressed this issue. It basically was that, because of public records brought to
our attention we have strong doubts as the suitability and ability of Mendota
Homes to develop this site. This was not due to the bankruptcy issues as much as
to the findings by the court that there was substantial evidence of knowingly
making false oaths and inference of fraudulent intent. An appeals court also
found against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue.
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We had proposed another video but I'm going to have to ask you to use your
imagination on this one. The video was going to go back and forth between a
picture of the houses in our community, which you have seen, and a pictuxe of a
suburban cul-de-sac with double and triple townhouses all in uniform color and
vinyl and no or little trees, again which I assume most of you have seen before.
In Summary (of a summary)
We feel a major issues is compatibility with the neighborhood. We feel the
envelope of possible interpretations of that requirement has been extremely
enlarge and furthermore pushed in the wrong direction
We feel a major issue is safety in traffic, in parking, and in ponding
requirements. We also feel that the City has not responded adequately or at all to
these concerns, and that you cannot site passing a review process as an adequate
addressing of direct concerns, especially if those questions are not part of the
review process.
We feel issues of alley use is a major safety issue.
We feel a major issue is that cluster developments should lead to increased
green space.
We feel the issues of property value, of viability of the project, of proper
management are important.
We feel there are more acceptable alternatives, development alternative� and
they should be the only ones allowed. '
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However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond fox complying with all the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished byeither the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to expiore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our alternatives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We realize we can`t stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
Why has there been so much probiem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for public recard 'they would never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Secause in its current rendition
and in all past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted earlier, there has not been a proposal to develop as a single £amily
housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is to do just that on the lot
on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone else in the neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narxow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the pubiic hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
Before I summarize I like to show this tape prepared by some residents; it was
prepared for one of the initial discussion with the community council.
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PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
SAINT PAUL CTTY COUNCIL
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Properry Owners within 350 feet;
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BYRNE, PATRICK
Appeal the Planning Commission approval of a 10 unit cluster development.
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City Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City Hall-Court House
15 West Keliogg Blvd; Saint Paul, MN 55102
HOW TO PARTICIPATE 1. You may attend hearing and testify.
2. You may send a letter before the hearing to the Zoning Section of the
Planning and Economic Development Department, 25 West Fourth St,
1100 City Ha11 Annex, Saint Paul, MN 55102. .
3.. Participation is not required. This is your notice of public hearine.
ANY QUESTIONS
Call Kady Dadlez of the Zoning o�ce at 266-6582 or your District Council
Representative at 222-1222 with the following information:
Zoning File Nutnber 97-313
Zoning File Name MENDOTA HOMES APPEAL
Mailing Date 12/10/97
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David & Helene Schultz
1120 Saint Clau Avenue
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55105
612-292-1096
January 13, 1998
St. Paul City Council
c/o Zoning Section of PED
25 West Fourth Street
1100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear City Council Members:
Re: Mendota Homes Appeal
Zoning File Number 97-313
We are adjoining property owners to the proposed Mendota Homes project and we are sending this letter to
oppose the special use permit that was granted by the Planning Commission. We hope that this letter will
be given all the weight that oral testimony would haue received.
We oppose the granting of the special use permit for all of the reasons stated in the letter endorsed by all of
the adjoining property owners in the area. However, we do wish to reinforce several points.
We believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing Yo give sufficient attention to both the traffic safety
problems and the incompatibility of the proposed project with the current architecture and land use of the
neighborhood. First, placing additional traffic on either Lexington or Saint Clair Avenues will be a safety
hazard that should be considered. Second, the proposed development, with large two and three unit
structures, will be significantly larger than any of the eusting units in the area. Hence, the new Mendota
Homes units will dwarf and hover over the e�sting houses. Overall, it is our believe that the Planning
Commission failed to give due regard to these factors.
Second, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing to permit certain testimony to be placed
on the record for their consideration. By that, neighbors repeatedly sought to enter into the record their
concern about the soil conditions on the land upon which this proposed development might be erected. The
neighbors have legitimate concerns that because of the soil conditions construction of buildings on this
property would perhaps endanger the public health or othenvise damage or be detrimental to neighboring
property. In effect, because the Commission refused to allow testimony on this subject the Commission
abused its discretion and failed to consider facts that may be critical to a fu11 and proper evaluation of the
application of a special use permit for this project.
Third, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing to consider all of the information submitted
to them as a matter of public record. By that, Tim Sullivan had submitted court information to Beth Bartz
regarding John Mathern's financial difficulties with other similar housing projects. Ms. Bartz failed to pass
along to the Planning Commission this information. We believe that the Planning Commission should have
reviewed this information and made its own decision to its relevancy. The failure to consider information
submitted for public record, as well as the failure to pass this information along to the Planning Commission
is an error of law. In sum, we hope that City Council considers this information when it reviews the Mendota
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Homes project since it may speak to the capacity of the developer to execute and complete this project.
Fourth, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in giving weight to facts and testimony that are not
relevant to the statutory requirements specific to the granting of a special use permit. By that, during the
public hearing Susan Kimberly testified to a Metropolitan Council determination that St. Paul needed to
intensify its Iand use and increase the number of housing units in the city over the ne� iwenry years.
Similarly, in its deliberations, the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission referred to her testimony_
While Ms. Kimberl�s testimony may have some merit, neither the Met Council's report nor overall housing
needs in the city are relevant to the granting of a special use permit for this property. Specifically, no where
in §64.300 of the St. Paul I,egislative Code does it permit a regional or general concern for land development
to count as a factor for allowing a special use permit for a specific property. Instead, one must look only to
the applicable statutory conditions of the code as they apply to a specific parcel of property. To the e�ent
that the Planning Commission considered irrelevant information such as this in its decision the Commission
erred, and we urge you to consider the request for a special use permit for this project based solely upon the
statutory relevant factors and facts considering this property.
Fifth, at no point did the Planning Commission consider other alternative and less intensive uses than the
proposed development. Instead of considering a ten unit cluster development some regard should be given
to a less intense but otherwise compatible use for the property, e.g., several single family units.
Overall, for the reasons specified above, as well as for those listed in the joint letter by all the neighbors, we
believe that City Council should overturn the Planning Commission decision and vote to deny a special use
permit for this project.
However, were City Council disposed to supporting this project, we would ask that you modify the current
special use permit in several ways. First, the overall number of units should be reduced to eight or nine units
such that there will not be either a double unit directly on I.exington or a triple unit located anyv✓here in the
project. A triple unit is clearly incompatible with the existing neighborhood and would be very out of size and
character with the neighborhood. Second, by allowing only one unit on I.exington it will protect the house
ne� to it.
Third, by reducing the number of units to eight or nine it will less the intensification of use, preserve green
space, and make the project less of a traffic safety problem. Fourth, we would like to see the developer post
a bond guaranteeing that the project will be completed as specified. What the neighbors fear most is a project
that is started and never completed, leaving a partially undeveloped hazard in the neighborhood.
Please note, in making this request for a reduction in the number of units the developer will claim that he
has already compromised from his initial plan of fifteen units. However, the original proposal for the plan
was twelve units and subsequently the developer increased his request to fifteen. Hence, a compromise of
eight or nine units to preseroe the neighborhood does not seem unreasonable.
Thank you very much for considering our concerns.
Sincerely,
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Helene and David Schultz
Jauuary 13, 1998 (S:S7pm)
David Schultz
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WHEREAS, Mendota Homes, in Zoning File No. 97-207, made application to the Saint
Paul Plauniug Commission for a special condition use permit under the provisions of Saint Paul
Legislative Code Section 60.413(13) and 64300(d) for the purpose of constnxcting a 10 unit
cluster development on undeveloped property located on Lexington Pazkway south of St. Clair,
and legally described as and;
WHEREAS, the Zoning Committee of the Plamiing Commission on October 30, 1997,
and on November 13, 1997, after having provided nofice to afFected property owners, held public
hearings at which all persons present were given an opportunity to be heard and submitted it
recommendafion to the commission. The commission, by its Resolution No.97-78, adopted on
November 21, 1997, decided to grant the applica6on based upon the following findings and
conclusions:
1. The applicant has a purchase agreement for the property proposed for development. Ten
dwelling units are proposed: 3 buildings of two units, 1 building of three units, and 1
building of one unit. Access to the homes and gazages is proposed to be entirely from
Lexington Parkway via a private street. There is no alley access.
2. Chapter 60.413(13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments subject to the
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This condition is met. Ten units are planned.
The units shall be attached, common wall, single family, with no unit intruding on
the vertical airspace of any other unit.
This condition is partially met. Nine of the units are attached, common wall,
single-family, with no unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit.
One unit is a single-family home and this condition (b) is modified for that home
in finding 4, below.
c. The parcel shall meet the lot area required per unit in the zoning dish-ict.
This condition can be met. The lot azea, including half of the alley is 107,380.5
square feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit, exceeding the 5,000
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This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet of frontage on Le�ngton
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The structure shall conform to the schedule of regulations for height, lot
coverage, setbacks and parking.
This condifion is met. As proposed, the development meets the requirements for
height, lot coverage and pazking prescribed by the zoning district. Eight visitor
parldng spaces will be provided in addition to a double garage for each unit.
Zoning enforcement has deternuned the front yazd to be on Lexington, and the
rear yazd to be the farthest northwest corner of the pazcel. The plan appears to
meet all setback requirements.
The design shall be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood.
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood
which consists of a mixture of 1, 1-1/2, and 2 story shuctures with gabled and
hipped roofs. Materials used in the surrounding neighborhood include stucco,
clapboazd, metal siding, and composite shingles. Windows are a mixture of
double hung and fixed "picture" windows.
The proposed units are 1 and 2 stories in height with intersecting gable roofs.
(See drawings attached.) The applicant has not specified which units will be one
or two stories, but rather proposes that decision be made with the potential buyer.
Exterior material is proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, while larger
than the typical home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design, is broken
up by a central gabled bay. Porches and double hung windows provide other
design elements similar to houses in the azea.
Individual lots, buildings, sireet and parking areas shall be designed and situated
to minimize alteration of the natural features and topography.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for the site.
The grading plan also includes construction of a storm water pond near
Le�ngton. However, the overall topography of the site, including the slope into
the railroad corridor, would not be disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the
slope azea of the site would remain.
h. Applications for cluster deveZopment shall include site plans, including
landscaping and elevations and other fnformation the planning commission may
request.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan, landscape plan, and
building elevations along with a written descripfion detailing the specifics of the
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the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan and any applicable subarea pZans which were
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The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to flus matter. There
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The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990's recotnmends "expansion of housing
opportunities for middle and higher income households where this mazket is or
can be addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this proposal will be priced at
$139,900 - $200,000, addressing middle income populations.
The use will provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic congestion in
the public streets.
A private street will provide access to the units and a11ow emergency vehicle
traffic and visitor pazking. The Fire Deparhnent has determined this access to be
sufficient for emergency access.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to Lexington raising
concerns about traffic cutting through the alley to avoid the intersection at St.
Clair and Lexington. The current proposal does not ea�tend the existing alley and
does not connect the alley to the private street, eluninating the ability far traffic to
cut through.
The use will not be detrimental to the existing character of development in the
immediate neighborhood or endanger the public health, safety and general
welfare.
This condition is met. The nuxnber of new dwelling units can be accommodated
by exisring facilities and services provided by the city. The private street will
accommodate emergency vehicles and all requirements for water, sewer and storm
water have been met.
The use will note impede the normal and orderly development and improvement
of the surrounding property for uses permitted in the district.
This condition is met. The surrounding property is fully developed. The new
housing will serve as a buffer between the single family homes on St. Clair and
Lexington and the raikoad - Ayd Mill Road corridor.
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general welfaze of the community and is consistent with reasonable enjoyment of
adjacent property."
The building fronting on Lexington Pazkway is a stand alone single-family home that
does not meet the common wall condition of (c) above and is hereby modified. Siting a
single-fanuly home rather than a two-fanvly home is more in keeping with the single-
family homes adjoining and to the north along Lexington Parkway. Including the single
family home in the cluster development adds the hazdship of sepazate description and
easements for a single-family lot.
WHEREAS, pursuant to the provisions of Saint Paul Legislarive Code § 64.206, Pat
Byrne, duly filed with the City Clerk an appeal from the determination made by the plauning
commission, requesting that a hearing be held before the City Council for the purpose of
considering the actions taken by the said commission; and
WHEREAS, acting pursuant to § 64.206 through § 64.208, and upon norice to affected
parties a public heazing was duly conducted by the City Council on January�; 1998, where all
interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and �Y
WIIEREAS, the Council, hauing heazd the statements made, and having considered the
application, the report of staff, the record, minutes and resolution of the zoning committee and of
the planning commission, does hereby;
RESOLVE, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul does hereby reverse the decision of
the planning commission in this matter, based on the following findings of the Council:
The Council finds that the planning commission erred with respect to fmding 2( fl and
2(b) in that: (1) the proposed design is not compatible with the surrounding neighborhood as the
exterior design characteristics of the units aze out of character with the neighborhood; and (2) the
overall design of the proposal is more like a suburban Woodbury styled development which is
not in keeping with the surrounding neighborhood. The Council fiu•ther finds with respect to
finding 3(b) that the ingress and egress to Lexington Avenue does not minimize traffic
congestion in the public street and, in fact, adds to traffic congestion; and
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Co7emme, Mayar
Civi[ Division
400 City H¢!L
IS West KelZogg Blvd
Saint Paul, Mi�n+esota 55702
Telephone: 612 266-87Z0
Facsimile: 612 298-5619
Apri121, 1998
Nancy Anderson
Council Secretary
31Q City Hall
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Appeal by Pat Byrne
Zoning File No. 97-207
January 27, 1998
Dear Ms. Anderson:
Attached please fmd a s3gned resolution memorializing the decision of the Saint Paul City
Council in the above-entitled matter. Would you please place this matter on the Council Consent
Agenda at your earliest convenience.
If you haue any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
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Assistant City Attorney
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Enclosure
DEPARTMENT OF PLFvNYING
& ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
crrY oF sanvr Pavz.
Norm Calemarz, Mayor
December 8, 1997
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Dear Ms. Anderson:
Divirion of P(mviing
25 A'estFau�th Street
Saint Pau1, MNSSIO2
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Telephone: 6I2-266-6565
Facsimi[e: 612-228-3374
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Monday, December
22, 1997 for the following appeal of a Planning Commission decision approving a special condition use
permit:
Appellant: PAT BY12NE
File Number: #97-207
Purpose: Appeal a Planning Commission decision approving a special condition use permit to
allow cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units. (Applicant: Mendota Homes)
Address: x� Lexington Parkway South (southwest quadreant of Lexington and St. Clair)
Legal Description of Property: See Survey in File
Previous Action:
Planning Commission Action: Approval with conditions; vote: 16-1, November 21, 1997
Zoning Committee Recommendation: Approval with conditions; vote: 4-0, November 13, 1997
My understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda for the December 1�,
1997 City Council meeting and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger.
Please call me at 266-6580 if you have any questions.
Sincere
Beth Bartz
City Planner
cc: File #97-207
Mike Kraemer
Donna Sanders
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The Satnt Paul �1ty Counctf wi11 mnduct a public hearing on Monday, December 22,
1997 at 4:39 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, Third Floot. � City Hall-Court Hous� W
consider ihe appeat of Pat Byme, to a dectsion of ihe Planning Commission approving a
spectal conditlon use pernvt to allow ciuster development with ten dweliing nnits
(applicant: Menddta Hoates) at ao�c Ix�dngYOn Parkway South [southwest quadrant of
Lerrtc�gton and St. Clair Avenues). - � � -
Daked: December 9. 1997 � . - - ��
NANCYANDERSON � ' -
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DEPARTMENT OF PT.ANNING
& ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CTTY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Co[eman, Mayor
Dec i2-
Prfaq 2i, 1997
Ms. Nancy Anderson
Secretary to the City Council
Room 310 CiTy Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Division af PlanrrLtg
25 West Fowth Street
SaintPaul, MN55102
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Te[epharze: 6I &26Cr6565
Facsimile: 612-228-33I4
RE: Zoning File #97-207: Appellant: PAT BYRNE
City Council Hearing: December 22, 1997 430 p.m. City Council Chambers
PURPOSE: Appeal a planning commission decision approving a special condition use permit to allow a
cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units on property located at the southwest quadrant of
Lexington Pazkway South and St. Clair Ave.
PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION: APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, 16-1
ZONRVG COMNIITTEE RECOn�IIV1ENDATION: APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, 4-0
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: APPROVAL
SUPPORT: One person spoke. Two letters received in support.
OPPOSITTON: Six persons spoke. Eight letters were received in opposition. The Summit Hill
Association voted to oppose the special condition use permit.
Dear Ms. Anderson:
PAT BI'RNE has appealed the decision of the Saint Paul Planning Commission to approve a special
condition use permit to allow a cluster development with ten (10) dwelling units on properry located at
the southwest quadrant of Lexington Parkway South and St. Clair Avenue. The Zoning Committee of
the Saint Paul Planning Commission held a public hearing on the request on October 30, 1997 and
November 13, 1997. The applicant addressed the committee on both occassions. At the close of the
public hearing on November 13 the committee voted 4-0 to recommend approval of the permit with
conditions. The Planning Commission upheld the Zoning Committee's recommendation for approval on
a 16-1 vote on November 21, 1997.
This appeal is scheduled to be heard by the City Counci] on December 22, 1997. Please notify me if any
member of the CiTy Council wishes to have slides of the site presented at the public hearing.
Sincerely,
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Ken Ford
Planning Administrator
Attachments cc: City Council members
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APPLICATtON FOR APPEAL
Department ojPlanning and Economic Development
Zoning Section
II00 Cit}� Hall Annex
15 West Fourth Street
Sainr Paul, Mh' S5102
266-6589
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TYPE OF APPEAL: Application is hereby made for an appeal to the:
i� Soard of Zoning Appeals City Council
under the prov'tsions of Chapter 64, Section 2�? Paragraph � of the Zoning Code, to
appeai a decision made by the �L�`�J�Ji �C_ C�runi iSI� �
on ! t � 2 1� 9 7 , 19� File number. j�7 — Z� �
(date o decis on)
GROUNDS FOR APPEAL: Explain why you feel there has been an error in any requirement,
permit, decision or refusal made by an administrative o�cia{, or an error in fact, procedure or
finding made by the Board of Zoning Appeals or the Planning Commission.
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Attachment to
Application For Appeal
Appellant Patrick Byrne
243 S. Lexington Parkway
St. Paul, Minn 55105 266-6171
Property Mendota Homes, File 97-207
Location Southwest quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair
Lot 19 Rueths Addition
This is an appeai to the City Council of a decision made by the Planning Commission
on Friday, November2lst, 1997, #97-207
Grounds for Appeal:
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED and Public Works made errors in facts, procedures and findings
in assessing the safety issues involved with traffic, parking, and storm water
management. There is sufficient unrefuted public testimony to indicated different from
their findings.
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED made errors in facts, procedures and findings in assessing the
compatibility of the project with the surrounding neighborhood. There is sufficient
unrefuted public testimony to indicated different from their findings.
The Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, the Planning Commission and
City Staff within PED and Pubiic Works made errors in facts, procedures and findings
in assessing whether or not the project complied with ali provisions of granting a
special use permit for a"cluster development".
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Date: 1215 7
City Agent:
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city of saint paul
pianning commission resolution
file number 97-�$
�te November 21, 1997 _
WHEREAS, MENDOTA HOMES, file #'t 97-207, has applied for a Special Condition Use under
the provisions of Section 60.413 (li) and 64300 (d) of the Saint Paul Legislative Code for the
purpose of constructing a 10 unit cluster development on undeveloped property located on
Lexington Parkway south of St. Clair, as legally described in the file; and
WHEREAS, the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission on 10l30l97 and i ll13l97 held
public heazings at which all persons present were given an opportunity to be heard pursuant to
said application in accordance with the requirements of Section 64.300 of the Saint Paul
Legislative Code; and
WHEREAS, Saint Paul Planning Commission, based on the evidence presented to its Zoning
Committee at the public hearing as substantially reflected in the minutes, made the following
findings of fact:
The applicant has a purchase a�reement for the property proposed for development. Ten
dwelling units are proposed: 3 buildings of two units, 1 building of three units, and 1
building of one unit. Access to the homes and garages is proposed to be entirely from
Lexington Parkway via a private street. There is no vehicular access from the alley to the
site.
2. Chapter 60.413 (13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments subject to the
following conditions:
a. There shall be a minimum of hvo (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units aze planned.
b. Tlze units shall be attnche�t, common wall, single family, with no unit iniruding on the
vertica! airspace of any other unit.
This condition is partially met. Nine of the units are attached, common wall,
single- family, with no unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit. One unit
is a single-family home and this condition (b) is modified for that home in finding 4,
below.
moved by Field
seconded by
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c. TJze parcel slzall meet t/te lot area required per ur:it in tJ:e zoning rlistrict.
This condition can be met. The lot azea, including half of the alley is 107,380.5 square
feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit, exceedin� the 5000 square feet per unit
requirement.
d. T/ze parcel s/zallltave a mi�aitsutm frontage of eigl:ty (80) feet o�r an improved street.
This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet of frontage on Lexington Parkway.
e. The structure shall confortn to the schedtde of regulatio�:s for I:ei;kt, !ot coverage,
setbacks and parking.
This condition is met. As proposed, the development meets the requirements for height,
lot coverage and parking prescribed by the zoning district. Eight visitor parking spaces
will be provided in addition to a double garage for each unit. Zonin� enforcement has
determined the front yard to be on Lexington, and the rear yard to be the farthest
northwest corner of the parcel. The pian appears to meet all setback requirements.
f. TI:e design skall be compatible witle tlee srerrour:ding neigltborltood
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood which
consists of a mixture of I, 1-1/2, and 2 story structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
Materials used in the surrounding neighborhood include stucco, clapboard, metal siding,
and composite shingles. Windows are a mixrizre of double hung and fixed "picture"
windows.
The proposed units aze 1 to 2 stories in height with intersecting gable roofs. (See
drawings attached.) The applicant has not specified which units will be one or two
stories, but rather proposes that decision be made with the potential buyer. Exterior
material is proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, while larger than the typical
home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design, is broken up by a central gabled
bay. Porches and double hung windows provide other design elements similaz to houses
in the area.
g. Individua! lots, bui[dings, street and parking areas shall be designed and situated to
minimize alteration ofthe natnrt�7features anrl topograplzy.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for the site. The
grading plan also includes construction of a storm water pond near Lexington. However,
the overall topography of the site, including the slope into the railroad corridor, wouid not
be disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the slope azea of the site would remain.
h. Applicafons for c[uster clevelopment shall include site plans, including Inndscaping
and elevations and other informtztion t{ze planning commission may reqzcest.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan, landscape plan, and building
elevations along with a written description detailing the specifics of the development.
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3. Section 64300 (d) of the zoning code requires that before the planning commission may
grant approval of a principal use subject to special conditions, the commission shall find
that:
a. Tlze extetzt, Zocatiorz atttl intetzsity of tF:e use tvi11 be in substaritial compliarxce witk the
Saint Pau! Comprelzensive Plan and any applicable si[barea plans w{zicJz were
approved by t/te city cot�ncil.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to this matter. There are no
applicable small area plans for this area.
The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990s recommends "expansion of housing
opportunities for middle and higher income households where this market is or can be
addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this proposal will be priced at $139,400 -
$200,000, addressing middle income populations.
b. Tlte use wilt provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic congestion in the
pttblic streets.
A private street will provide access to the units and allow emergency vehicle traffic and
visitor parking. The Fire Department has determined this access to be sufficient for
emergency access.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to Lexington raising concerns
about traffic cuttin� through the alley to avoid the intersection at St. Clair and Lexington.
The current proposal does not extend the existing alley and does not connect the alley to
the private street, eliminating the ability for traffic to cut through.
c. The use wi![ not be detrimental to t/te existing cJiaracter of development in the
immediafe neighbor/:ood or endanger t1:e public healt/i, safety and genera[ wetfare.
This condition is met. The number of new dwelling units can be accommodated by
existing facilities and services provided by the city. The private street will accominodate
emergency vehicles and all requirements for water, sewer and storm water have been met.
d Tlze use will not impede the norn:al an�l orderly development and improvement of the
surrounding property for uses permitted in the district
This condition is met. The surrounding property is fuliy developed. The new housing
will serve as a buffer between the single family homes on St. Clair and Lexinb on and the
railroad - Ayd Mill Road corridor.
e. The use shall, in all otJzer respects, conform to t1:e applicab[e regulatians of t)te district
in which it is located
This condition is met.
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(4) Section 64300 (t� of the zoning code states: "The plannin� commission, after public
hearing, may modify any or all special conditions, when strict application of such special
conditions would unreasonably limit or prevent otherwise lawful use of a piece of property
or an existing structure and would result in exceptional undue hardship to the owner of such
proper[y or structure; provided, that such modification will not impair the intent and purpose
of such special condition and is consistent with health, morals and general �n�elfare of the
community and is consistent with reasonable enjoyment of adjacent properiy °'
The building fronting on Lexington Parkway is a stand alone single-family home that does
not meet the common wall condition of (2) c, above, and is hereby modified. Siting a single-
family home rather than a two-family home is more in keeping with the singie-family homes
adjoining and to the north along Lexington Parkway. Including the single family home in
the cluster development avoids the hardship of separate description and easements for a
singie-family lot.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Saint Paul Planning Commission, that under
the authoriTy of the City's Legislative Code, the application for a Special Condition Use to allow
a 10 unit cluster development on the undeveloped pzoperty located on Lexington Parkway south
of St. Clair is hereby approved, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the cluster development be constructed in conformance with the plan dated 11/13/97,
a part of the file;
2. That there be provided a physical barrier to prevent vehiculaz access from the alley to the
site, as determined by site plan review staff;
3. That the area between the alley and the cluster development be landscaped to buffer
nearby residences, as determined by site plan review staff;
4. That the applicant grant an easement of sufficient size that allows emergency and service
vehicles to cross the corner where the rivo aileys meet;
5. That a no left turn sign be posted by the applicant, prohibiting left turns onto Lexington
Park�vay northbound.
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City Hall Conference Center
15 Kellogg Boulevard West
A meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Saint Paul was held Friday, November 21, 1997, at
830 a.m. in the Conference Center of City Hall.
Commissioners Mmes. Duarte, Engh, Faricy, Geisser, Nordin, Treichel, and Wenct, and Messrs.
Present: Chavez,. Field Jr., Gordon, Kong, Kramer, Mazdell, Nowlin, Sharpe, Vaught and
Wilson
Commissioners Ms. *Maddox and Messrs. *Johnson and *McDonell
Absent:
*Excused
Also Present: Ken Ford, Planning Administrator; Jean Birkholz, Beth Bartz, Kady Dadlez, Nancy
Frick, Tom Harren, Nancy Homans, Patricia James, Roger Ryan, and Lucy
Thompson, Department of Planning and Economic Development staff.
T. Approval of Minutes of November 7, 1997
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved fo approve the minutes of November 7, 1997;
Commissioner Gordon seconded the moiion which carried unanimously on a voice vote.
II. Chair's Announcements
First Vice Chair Goxdon officiated the meeting in Chair McDonell's absence.
First Vice Chair Gordon announced that Commissioner Maddox' mother passed away; her
funeral was yesterday.
III. Planning Administrator's Announcements
Mr. Ford announced that on Wednesday, November 19, the City Council passed a resolution
requesting that the Planning Commission advise the City Council within 120 days of its
intentions with respect to updating the Fire and Medical Emergency Services Chapter of the
Comprehensive Plan. Staff will be working on recommendations to bring to the Commission.
N. Zoning Committee
#97-207 Mendota Homes - Special condition use permit to allow a 10-unit cluster development
at the southwest quadrant of Lexina on and St. Clair. Beth Bartz, Southwest Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved approval of the requested special condition use permit
to allow a 1 D-unit cluster development at the southwest quadrant of Lerington and St Clair
subjeet to conditions:
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I. ThaL the cluster development be constructed in conformance with ihe plan dafed
II/13/97, a part of the ftle;
2. That ikere be provided a plrysical barrier to prevent vehicutar access from the atley to
the site, ar determined by tlte site plan review staff,•
3. That the area between the alley and the cluster development be landreaped to buffer
nearby residences, as determined by the site plan review staff,•
4. That the applicant grant an easement of sufficient size that allows emergency and
service ve/:icles to eross tlze corner where the two aZleys meet;
5. That a no left turn sign to posted by the applicant, prolzibiting left turns onto
Lexington Parkway northbourxd.
Commissioner Field informed the Commission that the Zoning and Land Use Committee of the
Summit Hill Association and the District 16 Planning Council recommended denial of this
request, but it was based on an eazlier proposal than the one viewed last Thursday.
There was numerous testimony in opposition to the project presented at the Zoning Committee
meeting. The developer and the neighborhood met several times to try to compromise.
Commissioner Nordin asked to hear more about the discussion that took place at the Zoning
Committee meeting. She said that she feels this is a good use of land and would like to vote in
favor of it, but the amount of pavement on the site disturbs her as well as no use of the alley
which would eliminate three driveways and a few turn arounds.
Commissioner Vaught noted that he had the same concerns as well as a safety concem going into
the Zoning Committee meeting. He assured Commissioners that what they see before them
represents a compromise after listening to all of the various positions. Even though this plan is
not particularly perfect, the Committee felt that it could get the job done.
First Vice Chair Gordon asked if the Department of Public Works took a position on this plan?
Commissioner Vaught replied that they spoke about the issues, but were not particularly helpful.
Commissioner Nordin stated that she could not vote in favor of this case. She believes that the
Commission should stand their ground more firmly. Although she said she thinks iYs a
wonderful use of land, no alley access is not a good use.
Commissioner Field said that he also sits on the Housing Task Force with Commissioner Nordin
and he understands her concems and support of the project. However, he feels that this issue is
one that may have to be dealt with more often in the future. In filling up the City's green space
with housing, there's a need to be sensitive to the surrounding neighbors, and compromises will
have to be made.
Commissioner Nordin commented that this neighborhood knew that it was always a possibility
that this open land would be developed. This plan is inconsistent with any existing planning
within the City. She feels that this is not a legitimate compromise to be made for housing.
Commissioner Vaught noted that at the Zoning Committee meeting, Susan Kimberly made the
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comment that in looking to try to meet the needs for new housing in this City, compromises will
have to be made.
Commissioner Nordin stated that she understands why the road and the cul-de-sac are there
because taking tfiat out would tum the alley into a street. She said she is having a hard time
accepting is the four driveways off of it that add all the pavement and all the little turn arounds
you need to get back to that driveway. She stated that those four driveways can be eliminated
with just the alley access; that would leave green space between the houses.
Commissioner Field repeated that the result here is a compromise that is trying to accommodate
all of the conflicting interests of the parties.
The motion on the floor to approve fhe reques[ed special condition use permit to allow a IO-
unit cluster development at the southwest quadrant ofLe.rington and St. Clair carried on a
vote of I6 to I(Nordi�r).
#97-258 US West Communications - Special condition use permit to allow a 90' cellular
telephone antenna at 426 Fairview Avenue North. Nancy Homans, Northwest Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Field moved approval of the requested special condition use persnit
to allow a 90' cellular telephone anlenna at 426 Fairview Avenue Nortl:.
Commissioner Field noted that the Merriam Park Community Council voted to not support the
special condition use permit.
Commissioner Field referred to a memo dated November 20, 1997, which states that the
switching gear will be housed in structures near the antenna. This makes it a different situation
than we the Zoning Committee understood at the time of the vote. It is not viewed as germane to
the actual height of the antenna itself. In addition, there were documents provided in connection
with the pole itself that showed certain landscaping around the antenna and other structures
related to this. There was some concern expressed as to whether that landscaping would be there
in view of the change.
MOTION: Commissdoner Yaught moved to amend the original motion to include a site plan
review; the motion was seconded by Commissioner Wencl which carried unanimously on a
voice vote.
The amended motion on the floor to approve the requested special condition use permit to
allow a 90' cellular telephone antenna af 426 Fairview Avenue North carried unanimously on
a voice vote.
#97-259 US West Communications - Specia] condition use permit to altow a 90' cellular
telephone antenna at 1669 Arcade Street. Patricia James, Northeast Team.
MOTION: Commissioner Fie1d moved approval of the requested special condition use permit
fo allow a 90' celiula� telephone anienna ai I669 Arcade Street, subject to appropriate
screening approved by site plan review staff, carried unanimously on a voice vote.
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MINUTES OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE
CITY COUNCTI, CHAMBERS, SAZNT PAUL, MINNESOTA OI3 NOVEMBER 13, 1997
PRESENT: Mmes. Faricy and Wencl; Messrs. Field, Kramer and Vaught of the
Zoning Committee; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mmes. Bartz,
Frick, Homans, James and Sanders and Mr. Ryan of PED.
ASSENT: Chavez
Gordon, excused
Time: 4:20 - 5:45 p.m.
The meeting was chaired by Litton Field, Chairperson.
MENDOTA HOMES• southwest quadrant of Lexington and St C1aiY• #97-207• Snecial
Condition Use Permit: To allow a 10 unit cluster development.
Beth Bartz, PED, Southwest Quadrant, reviewed that this matter was heard on
Oc[ober 30 and laid over for two weeks to this meeting to allow a Department
of Public Works representative to attend this meeting to respond to concerns.
Tom Kuhfeld from Public Works was present at the meeting to respond to
questions. Ms. Bartz reported that the applicant and representatives of the
neighborhood aonvened and discussed the proposal during the interim. The
neighborhood presented the applicant with two options: A� To have the units
exclusively use the private drive and not be accessed via the alley; or B) If
the units were to be accessed from the alley, that the applicant agree to
improve and maintain the alley in perpetuity. There were also additional
conditions which were outlined in the November 13 letter from David Schultz
who represented the neighbors, as well as correspondence and a revised site
plan from the applicant. The revised site plan is not the applicant's
preferred site plan, however they will do it if they need to. These items
were distributed at the meeting and are included in the case file.
Commissioner Vaught asked for confirmation that the Mathern reaction to
Options A& B was the proposal which includes on the western most part of the
site, a 3-unit building as opposed to a 2-unit building, and includes a single
unit building on the Lexington end of the site and still includes 10 units.
Ms. Bartz responded that was the Mathern response to one of the neighbors'
requests that there only be a single unit on Lexington Avenue, as opposed to�a
duplex. The neighborhood was requesting then, that the total number of units
included in the development be reduced to 9 units, and Ms. Bartz reported the
Matherns' wish to keep the number of units at 10, and to accommodate that a
third unit was added to one of the buildings on the site.
Ms. Bartz noted that staff has had some concern with the proposed site plan
about the additional driveways and how the revised site plan cuts up the siCe.
Tom Beach, LIEP, site plan review, has reviewed the site and feels there is an
alternative to access to the site that would access all of the units off of
Lexington Parkway, but would e3iminate some of the need for a driveway.
Ms. Bartz distributed a copy o£ these comments.
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Tom Kuhfeld, Department of Public Works, was available to respond to
questions.
Commissioner Vaught reviewed concern with a proposal that provides ingress and
egress primary to all or some o£ the units, onto Lexington, has to do with the
topography of Lexington from St. Clair to Ayd Mill Road. He noted speed of
traffic in this location, and said that although there is a signal
intersection on St. C1air that as you cross St. C1air you can't see the
ingress/egress point. Noting concern over the amount o£ tra£Eic on Lexington
and the safety concerns of an additional access road, he asked Mr. Kuhfeld to
elaborate on the thinking of Public works as it related to the. possibility of
using alleys, which he noted is not unprecedented in the city.
Mr. Kuhfeld, Department of Public Works, noted that he had discussed this
matter with the trafEic engineer and recognized the valid concerns. However,
he noted that the situation is not that different from many other similar
situations in Saint Paul, i.e. driveways and unsignalled streets, e.g.,
Maryland Avenue. Mr. Kuhfeld reviwed that the Lexington Street frontage is
the only street frontage that the proposed property has, and said that until
and unless the City were to purchase the right-of-access that the applicant
could not be denied that access. Further, it was his position that where a
property has both alley and street frontage that they ought to have access to
both.
Commissioner Vaught noted that access to Lexington initially was not what the
applicants were seeking, but that their first choice was to primarily use the
alley for access, but were told by Public Works staff that was not possible.
FIe asked iE the proposed site were looked at as two parcels, it being
subdivided, with the front parcel including just the £rontage on Lexington
Pkwy., the back parcel wouldn't have any right or access to Lexington Pkwy.
Vaught contended that other than the fact that the alley doesn't have a name
and does not allow for address numbers off of the alley, he asked what
rationale the Department has beyond that the department has for not having the
primary access to the proposed site being the alley, as opposed to Lexington.
Mr. Kuhfeld responded that their primary responsibility is to fulfill the
Legislative Code that is given to them through ordinances of the City Council,
and he noted that one such ordinance requires an improved street, sewer and
water, or a house number is not issued. He said that a waiver may be granted
to those conditions, with the order of importance being: 1) the sanitary
sewer, 2) water and 3) street frontage. It was noted that the first two are
in place, and Kuhfeld said that the private road gives them something which is
comparable to street frontage and addresses would be given off of Lexington.
He said that in putting in the private road, they would be doing something
allowed in other areas and does not place an added burden on the City for
maintenance, i.e. plowing.
Commissioner Vaught asked that if the point of ingress/egress to the property
was not on Lexington Parkway, that the safety concerns that he raised above
would not be an issue. Mr. Kuhfeld responded that those concerns would be
eliminated, however it would affect the safety concerns in the alley and
direct its access to St. Clair.
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Commissioner Vaught reviewed that exceptions do exist to the general rule o£
not having an address off o£ an unimproved street or an alley to indicate that
- this situation is not unique. He asked what tests Public works uses in order
to a11ow such an exception, and name the alley and assign street numbers to
it.
Mr. Kuh£eld responded that the alley is not a platted street. He said he
believed the City could turn the proposed alley into aa of£icial street with
all o£ the rights and responsibilities, however he said that would be a
different matter than what is before the committee, and would require a
process o£ its own.
Commissioner vaught established from Mr. Kuhfeld that he was aware of places
where egress and ingress was off of an a11ey.
John Mathern, Mendota Homes, the applicant, spoke. Mr. Mathern reviewed that
since the October 30 meeting that time has been spent reviewing the site plan
and a meeting was held with the neighborhood. He reviewed that the
neighborhood presented them with Options A& B. He noted that concerns raised
at the meeting which the applicant tried to address, were that two units would
be built on Lexington Pkwy. next to a single-family one-level house, with
their primary concern thaC the proposal be reduced to one unit. Mr. Mathern
agreed that if he could do that by revising their plan that he would.
Secondly, there was concern of the alley, and that if the alley were improved
that Mendota Homes would plow and maintain the alley. Mr. Mathern said that
on behalf of Mendota Homes and the townhouse association that he could not
obligate the association to maintaining the entire alley and plowing the
entire alley with no cost to the neighborhood in perpetuity. Mendota Homes
did agree a£ter meeting with the neighborhood that they would put a proposal
together to see if the goals that they wished to accomplish could be achieved.
This being reducing the density on Lexingtan by allowing only one unit to be
built on Lexington; and could all ingress/egress be on Lexington and not share
the alley with the neighborhood at all. Mr. Mathern reviewed that a proposal
was put together quickly and given to the neighborhood, and after having had a
chance to review it themselves, Mendota Homes has decided that it is not a
proposal that Mendota would be in favor of because of the amount of asphalt in
both the cul-de-sac and the private driveways necessary. A copy of this site
plan was distributed.
Mr. Mathern reviewed that their preferred plan is the plan reviewed on October
30, with part of the traffic load onto the alley; part onto Lexington; and the
bringing of the cul-de-sac off of Lexington. He reviewed that they received
an additional alternative from Mr. Beach, LIEP, which shows coming in with
their road off of Lexington and then paralleling the alley with their own
private road. Their concerns with proposal were that the private road would
be right next to the public alley and the difficulty in keeping maintenance
separate. Mendota Homes could not support that proposal.
Mr. Mathern asked £or the committee to support the plan with 10 units, with
half of the traffic on Lexington and half the traffic on the alley. If
committee support of their preferred plan wasn't possible, Mendota Homes had
their engineer take Che plan that had all of the traffic on Lexington and
revise that to something with less parking and asphalt on it. This revision
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was circulated at the meeting. Mr. Mathern said that as a compromise they
would accept this proposal which loads all of the traf£ic onto Lexington, does
not share the a11ey with the neighbors, and also has one unit on Lexington and
keeps the proposal at 10 units. Mr. Mathern briefly reviewed the alternative
site plan proposal.
There was some discussion regarding other possible scenarios to configuration
which were ruled out as infeasible. Commissioner Vaught said he would be
hesitant to cut off access to residences that back onto an alley, to that
alley, as he didn�t see the sense, £airness or equity in it. The problem he
saw was to go so far as to establish the primary or only access to those
properties to be off of the alley, but given the alternative proposal by
Mendota Homes, he could accept that.
Commissioner Faricy said she felt that units 8, 9 and 10 as laid ou[ in the
preferred alternative was too congested and asked whether Mr. Mathern would
consider reducing the number of townhouses to 9 units. Mr. Mathern responded
that they are firm with the number 10, and noted that their original proposal
called for 14 or 15 units, and this represents a compromise on density. He
said it is the only 3-unit on site and said that with respect to townhouses it
is rather low in density as most townhouses go 4-6 units attached.
Commissioner Vaught said he believed the trade-off, that being one unit on
Lexington and the 3-Unit discussed above, was a superior plan, given the
relationship to the existing home on Lexington.
Mr. Mathern noted that by putting only one unit on Lexington it will likely
enable them to widen the roadway at its entrance/exit point.
Commissioner Vaught expressed concern that left turns both on to Lexington and
off of Lexington into the development, materially increases the safety hazard
that exists there, and asked if the applicant would be agreeable to
prohibiting that. Mr. Mathern responded that if restrictions were to be made
that he would prefer that they be limited to certain hours of the day of heavy
traffic.
Pat Byrne, 243 S. Lexington Pkwy., reviewed his prepared comments, a copy of
which are in the case file. Mr. Byrne addressed the most recent proposal with
Che one unit on Lexington Pkwy. He expressed concern that given the change in
the proposal at this meeting, that the community council and those present
with comments at the last meeting were being bypassed in the decisionmaking as
they have not seen the latest information.
Chair Field responded that Peter Warner, Assistant Attorney, advised that it
may be left to the discretion of the committee revisited on those issues, and
that notice was given. He said that frequently there are cases that during
tke course of discussion compromises may be reached.
Commissioner Vaught noted that upon layover at the October 30 meeting that it
was never the intent to go back to the Summit Hill Association, but suggestion
was made, and the opportunity provided to those most immediately a£fected to
take part in the process, and he said he suspected that those who could
participate were able to do that.
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Mr. Byrne asked £or the staff position on the pre£erred proposal of the
applicant. Ms. Bartz responded that there is no staft response to the new
proposal. She indicated that one piece o£ the preferred proposal is not in
compliance with the SCUP, with that being the single unit on Lexington. I£
the preferred proposal were considered for approval by the committee an added
condition would be necessary that that single unit on Lexington be split off
from the rest of the development, as a single, unattached unit is not allowed
as part of a cluster development, and there£ore any revised platting there
would need to be reviewed to ensure that there is an 80 foot frontage
maintained on Lexington Avenue for the rest o£ the development.
Commissioner Vaught asked whether the zoning code allows the committee to vary
that requirement. Mr. Warner responded that Eor the purposes of the SCUP
application that variances can also be taken into consideration. He noted
that section 64.300 subd. f(27 of the Legislative Code, indicates tkat the
planning commission may act as the board of zoning appeals and grant variances
for any regulations of the code related to permits or site plan approval;
which gives them the authority.
Chair Field said that putting that issue aside, and having seen the
applicant's revised proposed plan, whether staff noted any consistencies with
the original staff report that would be impacted by the revision. Ms. Bartz
said that the original stafE report conclusions stand, and that Public Works
stafE has provided input noting that it is not substantively different enough
to affect the sta£f recommendation.
Mr. Byrne spoke to finding 2(f), compatibility to the surrounding
neighborhood, and disagreed with staff and found the revised proposal to be
incompatible with the surrounding neighborhood. He also spoke to the issue
ingress and egress and reviewed that staff has not been able to find that
these are safe conditions and finds the access to Lexington to be unsafe.
Byrne opposed the revised proposal and requested Che committee deny the
request until the neighborhood had an opportunity to review the latest
proposal.
Commissioner Vaught ascertained £rom Mr. Byrne that given a choice oE two
versus one units located on Lexington, that he preferred one unit on
Lexington.
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David Schultz, 1120 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Mr. Schultz
reviewed that the neighborhood did attempt to arrive at a compromise and came
up with two options, Options A and S. Ae reviewed that a neighborhood meeting
did take place with the developer and that they did work out what appeared to
be a compromise, however uneasy, as it wasn't acceptable to a11. Aowever, Mr.
Mathern was to later inform them that he couldn't agree to it. Mr. Schultz
said the "preferred alternative" was new to him and he addressed it. Mr.
Schultz' concerns were addressed in his November 13 letter that was
distributed, which he reviewed, and a copy of which is in the case file.
Concerns included a desire for a good bufEer of trees between the development
and the alley. Concern remains that there be sufficient alley easement for
emergency vehicles and for neighborhood parking. Mr. Schultz noted that the
neighbors who did agree to the compromise liked the proposal of where the
triplex was located on the proposal that was presented to them, and liked the
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idea that it be located further away from other residential structures. One
of the neighbors asked that it be written into the association bylaws that
residents and visitors to Lexington Commons wouldn't use the alley.
In looking at the current proposal, Mr. Schultz said he could not speak £or
the neighbors due to the changes. He expressed concern that the preferred
proposal pushes the triplex closer to the existing homes on the St. Clair
side. He noted that the concerns addressed towards the proposal they
considered over the weekend, the adequate buffer, questions about easements
Eor safety vehicles, etc, still pertain. Mr. Schultz agreed with the single
unit on Lexington and found it to be an improvement.
Mr. Schultz spoke of concern on where the triplex units would be located. Ae
said that when the neighUors compromised that they originally wanted to go for
four double units and a single unit on Lexington. He asked that the triplex
be reduced Co a duplex and the overall units be reduced to nine units.
Commissioner Vaught asked Mr. Schultz to elaborate on the point made by Mr.
Schultz about easements for safety vehicles. Mr. Schultz said that there are
two concerns that the neighborhood had discussed that were agreed upon by the
developer and he said he wished to make sure were konored: 1) he noted the
entrance to the alley and proceeding to where a right hand turn is made to the
east/west portion of the alley Chat goes on Co St. Clair, that it is a very
narrow alley, and the concern is to make sure that there is enough room, which
means to cut into the developer's property a bit for an easement to allow
adequate space for service trucks to get through; and 2) That there be enough
space on the alley to accommodate reasonable parking by residents was also an
issue addressed by the neighborhood that he said Mr. Mathern appeared
sympathetic to.
Commissioner Vaught asked what Mr. Schultz was looking for in terms of what
they don't have currently, in terms of parking in the alley.
Mr. Schultz said the primary issue is the easement for service vehicles. The
secondary issue is that currently some residents do park in parts of the alley
because of the types of garages they have, and the developer seemed to
indicate a willingness to accommodate some kind of room on his property to
address both issues. He noted that residents have concern that the
development would make it difficult for residents to park where Chey have been
parking in the back, and that they would be forced to go out onto the street,
and is an attempt to address what they see as a safety issue.
Commissioner VaughC asked what Mr. Schultz suggested with respect to
bu£fering. Mr. Schultz said that the neighborhood discussion originally
proposed it as a privacy fence. Upon speaking with the developer, it was his
estimation that it would be approximately $20,000 to do, however he did agree
at that time to do a good buffer in terms of a tree landscape buffer to
separate the project from the alley.
Commissioner Vaught received agreement from Mr. Schultz that he would prefer
to see one unit on Lexington instead of two.
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Chair Field requested that Mr. Schultz elaborate on the nature of his
complaints regarding the administrative due process issues he alleged at the
end o£ his letter.
Mr. Schultz reviewed his concerns related to two issues:
1) He reviewed that Tim Sullivan had submitted information for public
record which included a letter and attachments, and he understood that
only the letter and not the attachments, were forwarded to the zoning
committee for its review; and
2) He noted concern that Commissioner Vaught at the October 30 meeting
engaged in what he thought was an ex parte discussion with city staff
on some material. He said that as the zoning committee is a formal
adjudicative administrative hearing that the in£ormation is supposed to
be on the record, with decisions based upon it.
Commissioner Vaught responded that he is not prohibited from making ex parte
comments. He further commented that Mr. Schultz had attempted to draw him
into ex parte comments after that October 30 discussion and that he refused to
be engaged.
Mr. Schultz responded that he had approached Commissioner Vaught only to
inquire as to whether or not public testimony would be accepted at this
meeting.
Keith Curtner, 259 So. Lexington Parkway, spoke in opposition. He expressed
concern over traffic filtering off of St. Clair through the development and
out onto Lexington. He said that it appears that the preferred proposal has
parking or driveway pads in significantly short proximity to the alleyways
that would allow that to happen relatively easily, and asked that be
considered in the committee's recommendations.
Mr. Mathern, Mendota Homes, the applicant, spoke in rebuttle. Mr. Mathern
said that in the meeting held with the neighborhood they did agree that tkey
would allow a widening beyond the extent o£ the a11ey at the corner because
that is where the trucks make the turn and it is difficult. He said that this
could be worked out with staff as to rededicating and widening the alley. Ae
said that they do not agree to provide any parking spaces at that location for
the neighborhood. He noted that the location of the triplex, he believes, is
a matter of preference and that Mendota Homes prefers it as shown in the
preferred proposal. He said that a landscape plan wi11 be provided to the
City which will include trees and shrubs on the site.
Commissioner Vaught asked for clarification as to what is intended with the
widening o£ the alley, deeding the property or providing an easement. Mr.
Mathern noted it is just giving the neighborhood the ability to make the turn.
The public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Vaught moved approval of the special coadition use permit with
the £ollowing conditions:
1) That it be conditioned upon the specific plan that was presented at
this meeting which includes the triplex and it includes less asphalt
then the preceding proposal that included the triplex;
2) That there be no vehicular access from the alley to the site itsel£;
(the intent is that there actually be physical barriers)
3) That there be a suitable landscaping plan £os the area between the
existing asphalt and the alley;
4j That there be some speci£ic resolution o£ the issue o£ the passage o£
safety vehicles and/or other service vehicles acrosa the corner of the
alley;
5) There be required to be posted by the applicant (if appropriate) at
egress £rom the property, a prohibition on left turns onto Lexington
northbound; and
6) That the requirements be varied in line with the code provisions sited
earlier by Mr. Warner, to allow the single unit on Lexington as a parC
of this development without requiring that it be broken off as a second
development.
Commissioner Kramer seconded the motion. The motion carried on a unanimous
voice vote of 4 to �.
Commissioner Wencl was not present for the vote.
Commissioner Vaught noted that he believed that Susan Kimberly's testimony at
the October 30 meeting was valuable. He noted that i£ the proposed property
hadn't been an unusual piece of land that it would have been built on a long
time ago. Vaught said he had some difficulty retricting alley access to
property that's across the alley and has alley access, but was willing Co do
so if the developer was agreeable to it. He reiterated his concern over the
traffic on Lexington. He said he preferred this as to the proposal presented
earlier to the neighborhood, and liked the fact that there is less asphalt and
he finds units 6 and 7 to be closer to the houses on St. Clair then 8, 9 and
10 are in either proposal. He noted that he believes one unit on Lexington is
appropriate.
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Commissioner Vaught, after a recess, revisited the complaint by Mr. Schultz.
He said he believed his behavior to be inappropriately characterized as ex
parte. He said that the allegation that the committee is sitting in some
manor o£ quasi-judicial capacity is incorrect, and said it is an
administrative hearing, which is a recommendation to the planning commission
which either makes the decision in terms of SCUPS or advises the city council
in the case of rezonings. He reviewed that those decisions that are made
finally by the planning commission are subject to appeal to the city council
and that it is at that point that the city council sits in a quasi-judicial
capacity. Ae said that a conversation that he has with a staff person is
never an ex parte contact and he said it was inappropriately categorized as
such, and even if it were it is not prohibited and the only prohibition that
he's aware of in the legislative code dealing with ex parte contacts is that
which prohibits a member of the city council sitting in a quasi-judicial
capacity reviewing an appeal oE a decision of the planning commission from
having contact with the parties.
Drafted by:
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Recording Secretary
Sub ' ted b. Approved by:
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Southwest Quadrant Chairpe son
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MINUTES OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA ON OCTOSER 30, 1997
PRESENT: Mme. Wencl; Messrs_ Chavez, Field, Gordon, Kramer and Vaught of the
Zoning Committee; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mmes. Bartz,
Homans, James and Sanders and Mr. Ryan o£ PED.
ARSENT- Fa, excused
Time: 3:37 - 6:20 p.m. _
The meeting was chaired by Litton Field, Chairperson.
MENDOTA HOMES• xxx Lexinaton Pkwv S(southwest auadrant of Lexinaton and St
Clair: #97-207; Special Condition Use Permit. To allow a 10 unit cluster
development.
Beth Bartz, PED, Southwest Quadrant, reviewed the staff report and presented
slides. Staf£ recommended approval of the special condition use permit based
on findings 1 through 3 of the staff report.
Tom Beach, LIEP, site plan review staff, was present to respond�to questions.
The Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16
Planning Council recommended denial of the request for a special condition use
permit to allow a 10 unit cluster development. A letter stating their
position was distributed.
Seven letters of opposition were received, plus one letter signed by numerous
residents of the community in opposition.
Reference was made to a letter of opposition received from Mr. Sullivan by
Commissioner Vaught, and there was agreement by staff and by the commiCtee's
legal counsel that its contents regarding the applicant's previous history
related to bankruptcy and the like was not relevant to the discussion.
Commissioner Gordon spoke to the width of the alley and asked staff's opinion
with respect to whether the alley would be wide enough to accommodate two cars
at the same time. Mr. Beach responded that presently there is an unpaved
alley and noted that it is quite narrow in a few locations. Ae said that the
platted right-of-way is 20 feet, with the narrowest point when approaching St.
Clair there being a fence on one side and a power pole and trees on the other
side, and he noted that the paved area currently is only about 10-12 feet.
Public Works, A11eys staff, reviewed these measurements, and it was deCermined
that with some modification and paving of the alley it would be possible to
get a 15-16 foot paved strip through the location, where a 16 foot paved alley
is standard and it is not uncommon to have a power pole sticking out a foot
into that area. That would be wide enough for two cars in the summer, and in
the winter months it might just have a single track through there. The
applicant has agreed to pave the a11ey.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether staff has reviewed the concerns addressed by
the Canadian Pacific Railway in their letter of opposition dated, August 27,
1997. Ms. Bartz responded that those concerns have been reviewed. In regards
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to the noise barriers that they are requesting the City does not require that
of any developments along railroad corridors. What the railroad is suggesting
in terms of a berm and a fence, has been reviewed by Mr. Beach and found them
to be inappropriate for the site. Regarding the noise vibrations, this is
something that is also not typically required during City review. If the
committee would choose to do so, staff from LZEP sta£E could examine that
further.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the committee would have the authority to
deal with the various issues addressed by the railroad, i.e. noise, vibration
and insulation from the vibration, and warnings to prospective purchasers
about the associated problems. Ms. Bartz responded that staff has reviewed
the letter from the railroad as protection for the railroad that in the case
they either choose to increase their use of the railroad track that they would
have issued some public statement that potential buyers and the developer
should have been forewarned.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether any meetings have been held with
Mr. Mathern, the developer, and the citizens in the area with concerns to
attempt to reconcile the issues. Ms. Bartz responded that Mr. Mathern has met
with the Zoning Committee of District 16 on three occasions and has o£fered to
meet with a groups of residents of the immediate area which was declined by
those neighbors.
Peter warner, Assistant City Attorney, responded to the question £rom
Commissioner Gordon whether the committee had the authority to deal with any
or all of the issues set forth in the letter from the railroad as stated
above. He said that the committee did not have the authority, and noted that
in reviewing the specific requirements set £orth in the code, that the types
of concerns in the letter are not those concerns that can easily be read into
the language of the two applicable provisions of the code.
Commissioner Gordon further asked whether other City agencies would. Mr.
Warner responded that LIEP, in its site plan review, and the issues looked at
in that process, would likely not get to the noise and vibration issues.
Commissioner vaught asked Mr. Beach whether the issues raised by the railroad
that are relevant considerations are being dealt with at the site plan review
process. Mr. Beach responded affirmatively, and he noted that the issue
regarding the vibration he will discuss with the building code staff to
determine whether there are any rules there.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the applicant has offered to take any
actions with respect to any of these issues. Staff was not aware that they
have.
Chair Field questioned whether steps were taken in the site plan review
process to address potential erosion issues. Mr. Beach responded that as part
of the site plan the applicant will be required to take the standard
precautions for erosion, i.e. silt fences, reseeding the hills on the
embankment that comes up from the railroad track, which is likely the only
place where there are substantial grades where erosion would be an issue.
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John Mathern, the applicant, 23920 Hawthorne Avenue North, Forest Lake, spoke.
He reviewed design renderings that were part of the staff packet. Mr. Mathern
reviewed his first proposal was Eor 15 units on the site and had intended to
come in off of the a11ey on St. Clair. However they were unable to obtain
staff approval on that proposal and revised the proposal, putting in a private
road, a cul-de-sac, which accesses their property off of Lexington Avenue.
The cul-de-sac he said has been reviewed by City staff and found to be
sufficient to a11ow ingress and egress of emergency vehicles, as we11 as the
residential traffic on that property. In addition, he said that in order to
minimize the amount of road traffic on any one particular road they split [he
accessibility to the garages for these residences between the.alley on St.
Clair and Lexington and on the Street o£ Lexington as well. He reviewed that
Lexington Avenue is an extremely busy avenue and accessibility to the property
has been one of the concerns of the neighborhood. However, he made the point
that it is the only road they have and is the access to the property and they
intend to use it. He reviewed that 10 one and two-story townhome units would
be built on the site which he finds to be in fitting with the neighborhood as
the neighborhood consists of a mixture of two-story and one level homes.
Mr. Mathern acknowledged the letter from Canadian Pacific Railway and cited
examples of other townhouse developments they have built adjacent to extremely
noisy roads which have all sold and have had resales as well. He reviewed
that the proposed site is above the Canadian Pacific Railway and are 18-20
feet above the railroad bed itself. It is a tiered site with a major storm
sewer artery along the Canadian Pacific Road which is elevated about i0 feet
above the railroad itself and they come up another 10 feet to the plateau of
their site. He said their road has been staged to be between their
development and the railroad, leaving the units backed away from the railroad
area and back up to the a11ey, which disCances them as far away Erom the site
as possible. Mr. Mathern said that the houses will be built on virgin soils
so the shaking in that area should be minimized. Regarding soil borings he
said that they had yet to be done. The fill that exists on the site is where
their road bed would be along the edge of the ridge. He said that the sites
themselves seem to be sandy soil down about 4 to 6£eet. As they intend for
basements on many of the town homes he said it poses no problem for them.
Upon some rudimentary exploration of the site they found their virgin soil
where the houses would be. He addressed an issue by some of the neighbors
that this site was once a dump site. He said that he was awaiting a call back
from the MPCA, however he said he understood that within Ramsey County there
is a list of between 70-90 closed unlisted dump sites but said that this
doesn't seem to be on it. He said that they have been unable to find that any
contamination ever existed on the site, however such issues have been raised
as we11.
Mr. Mathern spoke to issues related to the alley. Mendota Homes has agreed to
pave the a11ey as a means of ingress/egress £or their residents. He noted
that they have asked for some discussion with the neighborhood to discuss this
matter, however the neighborhood declined. At the last meeCing with the
district council some opposition was raised by the neighborhood over
improvements to the alley for fear that it may increase the level of service
on the alley and it may incur a cost for maintaining the alley in the future.
Mendota Homes however does object to maintaining the a11ey indefinitely at no
cost to the entire neighborhood. He said that they would use an upgraded
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gravel alley if acceptable to staff and to the neighborhood i£ that is more
acceptable to the neighborhood.
Mr. Mathern reviewed that their proposed site has been used as a parking area
for the residents for some time, which has raised concerns in the neighborhood
about future parking availability. He said that had they met with the
neighborhood the neighborhood might have Eound that they could have provided
some parking spaces in the back on the curve where the alley will likely have
to be widened, which would also accommodate the garbage truck�s accessibility.
He summarized that they desire to be flexible, have dropped their density from
15 to 10. He spoke of a number of individuals who had given them reservation
agreements already for the site, who are from the neighboring area who would
like to reside in a townhouse and remain in that neighborhood and he said he
sees their development as compatible with the long-term residential
development o£ the City of Saint Pau1. He said that the town homes would be
in a mid-price range of $139 to $200,000 range, most of them likely being
between $139 -$179,000 range, which seems to be compatible with Saint Paul's
long-term plan for housing in the City of Saint Paul.
Traffic on Lexington. This was another large issue which Mr. Mathern
addressed as having been raised by the neighbors in all of their district
council meetings. He said that the traffic is probably between 15-20,000 cars
per day. However, he said if he adds 10 units with an average of 10 trips per
day with two cars, he didn't feel that those 80 trips per day will
significantly increase the traffic load on that road. He acknowledged that it
will be a problem with access, as Lexington is a rather fast trafficking
street, but no different than what the current residents must deal with as
there are a number o£ driveways currently on Lexington.
Mr. Mathern noted that staff has required that a catch basin at the end of the
alley be included so that the water that is there can drain into their pond,
which they will do.
He reviewed the aesthetics of the exterior of the buildings and their
relationship to the neighborhood. Mr. Mathern circulated a chart which showed
the exteriors o£ the existing one and two-1eve1 homes in the neighborhood and
he said that they feel that their one and two-level town homes fit the
neighborhood.
He summarized that they believe it to be a fairly compatible use for the
property, and that it is generally in keeping with the neighborhood as there
are town homes on the other side of Ayd Mill Road. They believe that the 10
unit development allows for a very nice area with a lot of green space to it.
Commissioner Gordon asked for the current conditions of the two alleys. Mr.
Mathern reviewed that the surface of the north/south a11ey is currently
gravel, however they would asphalt it. They would also pave the east/west
alley. When complete there would be a paved surface of approximately 16 feet
wide and he said that is what would be allowed on a 20 foot wide alley
easement, but he was unable to guarantee that two cars could be next to each
other in passing. He pointed out that in the area entering St. Clair that
there is somewhat of a bottle neck with large trees there, fences and garages
that are an existing condition. He said that the possibility would exist for
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all o£ their traffic to be loaded onto Lexington with nobody on the alley,
however splitting the load appears to them to be sufficient.
Commissioner Gordon asked for Mr. Mathern to respond to a proposal for no
access to Lexington, with all access from the alleys. Mr. Mathern responded
that the City has said that £or them to have addresses that they need a street
and they will not allow the alley to be used as their street.
Commissioner Gordon asked Mr. Mathern to respond to the Railway's suggestion
of a fence or a berm. Mr. Mathern said he was not in favor o£ a fence or a
berm. He noted that they sit 20 £eet above the railroad. He.anticipated that
his residents will consist primarily of single individuals andJor married
couples between 40 to 70 with few children, and no minor children that they
would have to guard against.
Commissioner Vaught noted that the unusual topography raises some particular
questions. He noted that the difference between units 6 thru 10 and the
abutting residential property either on St. C1air or on Lexington, is that the
only means of vehicular access is through the alley as there is no access to
any of those units from either Lexington, St. Clair or the private road, which
in effect turns the alley into a public street. Given that, and that it
wouldn't need to be done to service the vehicular needs of any of the other
abutting properties in that area, he doesn't see the reason why having once
paved the alley that Mr. Mathern doesn't think it ought to be the obligation
of the people who created the need to do that because it is the only vehicular
access to their property, why that ought not to be a continuing obligation.
Mr. Mathern responded that the units that do not have their garages exiting on
to the private road, but on to the alley have a sidewalk that takes them down
to the private road, where they can park on the private road.
Commissioner Wencl asked how much guest parking would be provided. Mr.
Mathern responded that there are 8 parking spaces, with 4 on the end of the
cul-de-sac and 4 where you drive past units one and two. He noted that for
the units on the alley that two cars could be parked in front of each double
garage.
Commissioner Wencl asked Eor the width of the private road. Mr. Mathern
responded that the road will be 2� feet wide, with the a11ey easement being 2�
feet wide with a 16 foot wide asphalt surface.
Commissioner Wencl asked staff what width is required when the Fire Department
issues their regulations for the width of a street, allowing for their trucks
to get in and turn-around. Mr. Beach responded that the Fire Department
typically likes a 20 foot access for emergency vehicles. He said that in this
case the 20 foot street out in front with the cul-de-sac was reviewed by them
and determined to be sufficient. He noted Chat the Fire Department was at the
meeting of this project and the plan presented at this meeting meets the Fire
Department approval.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether the Fire Department's approval would be
withdrawn if there was no private road with a 20 foot width and there were
only the alleys to access the homes. Ms. Bartz reviewed that just using the
alleys as they were would not have been sufficient.
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Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Mathern had looked at the possibility of
a regulation that would prohibit right turns only to exit and enter the
development. Mr. Mathern said that those things dealing with health and
safety issues they would take guidance from the City on.
Susan Kimberly, PED, Southwest Team Leader, spoke. Ms. Kimberly noted that
over the past few years there has been an ongoing discussion at the
Metropolitan Council about how to deal with the issue of urban growth and what
the impacts of that growth and those policies were on our community. She
reviewed that the Saint Paul Planning Commission and the City Council took
positions on those issues and made a strong case to limit the overall growth
of the region, and need to take the steps necessary to see that sprawl is
diminished. The Metropolitan Council took a position that limited growth to
some extent, and as a result of that Saint Paul is forecasting an approximate
increase of 500 housing units per year £or the next 20 years. She reviewed as
a point of re£erence, that there was some debate about putting housing on the
Koch Mobil site, and the City Council has instructed PED to develop that 65
acre site for housing, and is currently being proposed to be developed in a
fairly intense fashion with 456 units proposed. If there were 20 sites of
that site available all of the new housing could be put on sites that have
little or no impact on any existing neighborhood, however that is not
possible. When looking at how the City would meet the housing goal it was
realized that it is going to happen in increments as being considered with
this proposal. Ms. Kimberly noted that over time these conversations must be
resolved in favor of additional housing in Saint Paul if the City is to meet
these housing goals.
Chair Field recalled the related discussion by the Planning Commission about
housing and their response to the Metropolitan Council, and asked whether the
proposed site was identified at that time as one of the potential housing
sites. Ms. Bartz responded a map was presented at the Planning Commission
discussion which showed some of the larger sites, as we11 as smaller
undeveloped sites, particularly along the Ayd Mill Road corridor and the 2-35E
corridor which have some potential for development and that the proposed site
would have been included among those.
Commissioner Gordon received confirmation £rom staff that the Department of
Public Works has stipulated that the alleys in question may not be used to
provide a street address for the proposed units, but that access to a City
street must be provided for this purpose. Ms. Bartz reviewed that the only
frontage that the proposed site has is on Lexington Parkway and that during
the site plan review process that Public Works determined that the applicant
could not address all of the properties off of Lexington and required that
they develop a private street.
Mr. Beach further reviewed that in order to build a house in Saint Paul it
must have £rontage on an approved street which has to do with public safety
issues and response to calls. In response to an inquiry, Mr. Beach said that
the Department o£ Public Works has said no to an option to name the alley so
thaC it may be used as a street address to eliminate access to Lexington.
There was some discussion about the different configurations looked at. Chair
Fie1d noted that the cul-de-sac basically constitutes the Fire Department
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access aad is critical in such a discussion.
Commissioner Vaught questioned the rationale that was used by Public works £or
requiring the private road £or the sole purpose of providing the buildings
with addresses, as opposed to,-and juxtaposed with, the obvious hazard o£
dumping that traffic onto Lexington Avenue, either right or 1e£t, given the
hazards. Mr. Beach said that upon review Public Works determined that the
ingress/egress situation was not ideal, but acceptable. He noted that an
option might be to keep the private road to meet the technical requirements
£or addresses and fire access and to have all the cars come in off of the
alley.
Commissioner Vaught asked what the reason was for not allowing the access off
the alley. Mr. Beach said that one of the main considerations was the impact
on the neighborhood, and that this was an alley and shouldn't be the main
access for every unit in the development.
Commissioner Vaught commented that all of the properties using the alley for
access is an inconvenience, however he felt that five of the properties using
Lexington to egress is a hazard.
Ms. Bartz pointed out that if the committee would desire some direct input
from the Department of Public Works that time would allow for this item to be
postponed for two weeks.
Chris Trost, Executive Director, Summit Hill Association, DistricC 16 Planning
Council, spoke in opposition. Ms. Trost read in as testimony, the letter from
District 16 dated October 29, 1997. In summary, the Zoning and Land Use
Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16 Planning Council
recommended denial of the request by Mendota Homes for a Special Condition Use
permit. (A copy of this letter is in the case file).
Commissioner Wencl asked for further explanation of the statement that "The
scale of the town homes is out of proportion with the adjacent homes.° Ms.
Trost responded that the size of the individual unit, hal£ of the footprint of
the unit, is approximately twice the size of many, if not most, oE the homes
that surround the townhome development on both Lexington and on St. Clair.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether District 16 made a proposal that would
resolve each of those issues to the applicant with respect to the issues as
they related to the soil tests, the vibration, the finished widths and the
scale. Ms. Trost said that the issues were raised at each of the meetings
over a 3-month period. She suggested that the overall issue and concern is
that there is a lack of confidence because there are so many details le£t
unanswered.
Ms. Trost comments are as follows:
Scale. Units should be smaller.
Finished width of the alle� Problem with finished width of alley is related
to the density of the proposal. Finished width might be fine the way proposed
if there were fewer units and fewer people using the alley.
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Soil. Looking Eor evidence or confirmation that it is not polluted and that
it is buildable.
Vibration. Concerned about establishing that it would not be unacceptable
vibration as addressed by the Canadian Pacific Railway.
Commissioner Gordon asked if there are existing homes as close to the railroad
tracks as any of the proposed homes would be located. Ms. Trost said that srie
was not aware of any that are.
Commissioner Gordon asked why the citizens declined having a meeting with the
applicant. Ms. Trost was unable to answer that.
Charlotte Patros, 1126 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Ms. Patros
expressed concern that the townhouse development would substantially devalue
her home. She said that although access from Lexington is all that is
available to the site, that it does not make it a safe solution.
Commissioner Gordon commented that typically higher valued homes built nearby
lower valued homes tend to increase the costs of nearby homes and asked for
clarification on this point, with Ms. Patros deferring to another person who
would be testifying. He asked whether Ms. Patros saw any solution to the
development which would accommodate the concerns of the neighborhood and the
applicant's desire to do the project. Ms. Patros said her greatest concerns
relate to the soil conditions and the buildability on the soil and the
stability of the structures when built and their subsequent marketability, and
iE these concerns can be met she believes that a solution can be reached.
Chair Field asked staff who is responsible for the oversight of the
suitability of soils for construction. Mr. Seach responded that would
typically be handled by LIEP when building plans are reviewed by LIEP for
compliance with the building code. If staff had reason to believe there to be
soil issues they would ask for soil tests.
Chair Field noted that as the soil issues are not in the purview of the
committee, but rather by LIEP, that they not be included in the committee
discussion.
Keith Curtner, 259 Lexington, a registered professional engineer, spoke in
opposition. Mr. Curtner identified his primary concerns as those of tra£fic,
soil conditions and commented on faetors he believes will impede project
realization. With respect to traffic he expressed concern that the proposed
project wi11 create a variety of traffic and safety problems of significant
proportions. (Please see a copy o£ Mr. Curtner's prepared testimony in the
case file. A set o£ photos was distributed for review and are also part of
the case file.)
Pat Byrne, 243 S. Lexington Parkway, a registered civil engineer, spoke in
opposition. He noted 100� of resident land owners oppose the project. The
issues addressed in decisionmaking included: Trees. Now serve as a sound and
visual barrier to Ayd Mill Road and railroad to be removed, which also serve
as an introduction to neighborhood traveling north on Lexington; Green space
will be severely diminished; Alley traffic. Mr. Byrne said that the addition
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of 10 more cars in alley wi11 be a sa£ety hazard; Property values. Mr. Byrne
alleged that due to the wide disparity in property values between the proposed
units and the existing homes, that the proposal will decrease the value of
existing homes and make them unsalable. No performance bond on the developer.
Byrne expressed concern over risk oE development £ailing and spoke of the
vibrations that are a factor in the neighborhood and which cause cracks in
walls which he believes are due to the poor soils.
Mr. Syrne addressed the issue of the meeting with Mr. Mathern being declined
by the neighborhood residents. He said that because residents saw no
alteration of the conditions which they opposed, they chose not to meet.
Byrne addressed the issue of eliminating the ingress/egress from Lexington
which he supported. I-Ie reviewed the Fire Department's need for a 90 foot cul-
de-sac £or turn-around in conjunction with the Department of Public Work's
need of a street for purposes of addressing.
Mr. Byrne spoke to Ms. Kimberly's remarks above, and noted that 20 sites may
be available in the city but many have issues of contaminated soil and are
costly to develop, however he didn�t believe it justified development that is
not in character with the existing site.
Commissioner Vaught asked how o£ten the Division of Traffic and Accident does
speed enforcement on Lexington Parkway. Mr. Byrne responded that his £amily
has asked the Police Department to do speeding enforcement along that stretch
but Police said that they cannot do it as there is no good place to put a
radar unit. With regard to traffic, the Traffic Division of Public Works when
doing traffic reviews can only look at two issues: 1) distance from the
signalized intersection and 2) line of sight. A1 Shetka, Public Works,
Traffic, was requested by the residents to review Mr. Curtner's concerns
addressed in his letter, and his only response was regarding the frequency of
accidents on St. Clair, which averaged approximately one accident per month,
which was found to be acceptable. Aowever, Mr. Byrne disagreed, commenting
that it was unacceptable in a residential area. (A copy of Mr. Byrne's
prepared remarks are in the case file).
Commissioner Vaught noted that such issues as green space, and marketability
were not issues relevant to the zoning committee's decision making. He
reviewed that although the footprint of the individual units proposed may be
somewhat larger than some of the smaller existing homes in the neighborhood
that they are not in much variance with the larger homes in the neighborhood_
Commissioner Vaught addressed the alley traffic. He hypothesized that at most
the proposal would generate at most a quarter increase in what is a very low
traffic pattern, and which pales in comparison to that existing on Lexington,
and said that the increase may be a nuisance, but not a hazard as the
Lexington traffic issue is.
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Mr. Byrne responded that this would be 2-3 times the city average use oE an
a11ey. He noted the fact that it is a two-block long dead-end alley, and
there is no on-street parking allowed on Lexington during rush hour.
Commissioner Gordon ascertained from Mr. Byrne that is personal there are 8-10
existing homes on the north/south alley currently using the alley, and 9
existing homes using the east/west a11ey. Mr. Byrne said that no hard numbers
exist for measurement of the traffic in these alleys, but rather personal
observation and impressions.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Byrne was aware of any other access
available to these residents to either Lexington or to St. Clair that the
proposed project could use. Mr. Byrne was not.
Helene Schultz, 1120 St. Clair Avenue, spoke in opposition. Ms. Schultz spoke
to the following issues:
Al1ey tra£fic. Ingress/egress from the present alley on to St. Clair Avenue,
she indicating that two cars cannot safely pass each other at the entrance at
the same time and noted that the residents using the alley have developed a
system that works for negotiating around one another. Chair Field noted that
the alley would be widened if the project were to proceed.
Regarding the traffic flow through the a11ey, she said the question was not
the total number of cars passing through it on a daily basis, but at what
hours it is most congested, with Ms. Schultz indicating that being during rush
hour, both morning and evening.
Declined invitation to meet with developer. Ms. Schultz indicated Chat Mr.
Mathern notified them in advance of the third Zoning and Land Use Committee
meeting as to what his plan would be and asked for neighborhood support.
Since they didn't support it, and were not asked to come to discuss their
particular concerns, she declined the invitation to meet.
Reasonableness factor. She spoke of the negative views the proposed units
would have, the backs of the homes on St. Clair and from the other view would
be overlooking a railroad, and she questioned their marketability.
Ms. Schultz spoke of her neighbor, Bev, who was present at hearing but had to
leave. She said that the private road is proposed to go to the edge of her
property line, as well as a double-unit at this property line. She requested
that the proposal be considered without the home developed on that parcel.
Density. Concern that this type of development is very uncharacteristic of
the neighborhood, and that the cost of the units and character of development
is a significant misfit in the neighborhood. Ms. Schultz would support a
single family development on the site with 4-5 homes with adequate green
space.
Ms. Schultz spoke of a term called In-Rem, which refers to the situation when
property Curns out to be unmarketable, and falls into to disrepair, owners
don't have the resources to maintain it, and eventually falls to the city
without any taxes being paid on it. 5he cautioned against the risk o£ this
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property falling within such an In-Rem status in this neighborhood.
Chair Field asked that public testinony not include the economics of the
project.
David Schultz, 1120 Saint Clair Avenue, a professor of political science,
with expertise in land use and regulatory takings, and experience in code
enforcement, land use, zoning and housing and economic development, spoke in
opposition. Mr. Schultz reviewed the letter he submitted Co the commission
dated 11./13/97, which summarized his concerns. (A copy of this letter is in
the case file). Before doing so he said he disagreed with the. way that staff
has characterized the project and found staff's review of the site to be
remiss in several areas and noted that he found Ms. Kimberly's comments
regarding the Metropolitan Council to be inaccurate, saying he could speak to
that as someone who has worked with the metropolitan council on land use
development in the metropolitan region. I-Ie agrees that more housing should be
built. However, he said Met Council never said to build housing where it
doesn't fit and creates safety hazards and seriously impacts on existing
housing. Further comments included:
Traffic safety. As elaborated above by others. He addressed the issue of
shifting the traffic on to the St. Clair alley. While the alley will be
widened, he noted that at its narrowest point (12-14 feet), he said that there
is almost no room to widen it beyond a couple of additional feet, which will
not be significant in order to accommodate additional traffic. Question had
been addressed as to the number of accidents which have occurred in the a11ey
and he suggested the more appropriate issue to be what is the traffic flow on
St. Clair, which he said is exceedingly high, especially during rush hour,
which provides for difficulty currently in entering and exiting the alley. He
noted that there is currently an average of one accident per month. To add to
this traffic he said would not create an inconvenience but a£urther hazard
that already exists on the St. Clair alley.
Parking. If additional alley area parking is provided it would close up the
alley to allow adequate traffic flow to go through, and in addition the
project will put additional parking out onto already overcrowded streets,
creating further hazards on the streets.
Fire Safety issues. Ae said that even with the widening to 16 feet, that the
ability to get a hook and ladder down the a11ey at its narrowest point is
problematic. He stated that there is an assumption that the entrance to the
proposed cul-de-sac�at St. Clair will adequately absorb fire safety vehicles
and he proposed that is assuming it's not rush hour traffic and that there is
not guest parking in the cul-de-sac, and if not the case there will be
signiEicant difficulty.
Proposal is inconsistent with integrity of the neighborhood, including
aesthetics and lines of the structure. He said it looks different and there
are no other cluster developments in the area.
Mr. Schultz addressed the fact that the existing units in the neighborhood
range in price Erom $60,OOD to $90,000, with the proposed units going from
$140,000 to $200,000. He finds this to indicate an incapatability with the
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existing units.
Inconsistent with the comprehensive plan for the neighborhood. The fact that
it needs a SCUP alone, he said, indicates its incompatability.
Mr. Schultz said he felt attached units, not clustered units would be
permissible. He suggested removal of the two units on Lexington, as the two
large units next to a small house was not acceptable. I-Ie also suggested the
architectural look o£ the building must be changed.
John Mathern, the applicant, spoke in rebuttle. He reviewed the communication
with the neighborhood on a number of occasions. He said that the district
council advised that they meet with the neighborhood and he said that they
attempted to do so, and he said that they desired to have an open dialogue.
He reviewed that they have over the course of time, reduced their density,
changed their roads, changed the way they load on to the alleys. He noted
that the units proposed for bordering on Lexington will be one level units.
Chair Field questioned the issue that detached homes cannot be placed on the
property. Mr. Mathern said this was addressed and at one time they had two
detached units proposed, but were told they had to use a common wa11 with
attached units.
Commissioner Kramer asked i£ certain units couldn't be platted as separate
parcels and make them not part of the clusCer development. Mr. Beach
responded noting that one of the problems is that the units have frontage on a
private street. Given the unusual shape of the lot there might be some
question in meeting the minimum lot size reguirements.
Mr. Ryan further noted that in R-4 zoning they would need 40 feet of frontage
and there is only 180 feet o£ frontage available on Lexington Parkway.
Commissioner Kramer asked if the only way to do stand alone units would be
under a planned unit development. He agreed, but said that in that case a
rezoning would be required.
Commissioner Chavez asked whether the developer has a performance bond in
place. Mr. Mathern responded that none is required for Chis project. He said
that once the project has been approved they would be required to post a
completion bond, which they will do. �
Commissioner Chavez spoke of the a11ey traffic and asked if a11 alleys aren't
pretty similar where two cars cannot pass one another in the alley. Mr. Beach
acknowledged that this situation is quite common.
Mr. Mathern said that had they had an opportunity to meet with the
neighborhood their various concerns could have been addressed, i.e. the
additional parking, the aesthetics, etc.
Commissioner Gordon asked if the site were zoned properly for free-standing
homes he asked if the developer would consider building it that way. Mr.
Mathern responded that it would not be free-standing homes on a City street as
the property doesn't a11ow for that, and an earlier proposal with attached and
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detached units was turned doom by City staff.
Commissioner Gordon asked whether Mr. Mathern was still willing to meet with
the neighbors to attempt to work out the problems. Mr. Mathern responded that
he did not want to meet with the neighborhood, but wanted to see action taken
by the committee.
Commissioner Chavez noted through staff that the applicant has already agreed
to extension of the 60-day period so that he could continue conversations with
the neighbors and work with district 16 and with staff with issues raised in
the site plan review process. �
Commissioner Wencl said that it appeared that the requirement of having an
additional street is the most limiting part of the development. Mr. Mathern
responded affirmatively. However, he said it was naive of them initially to
believe that they could have all units accessed by the a11ey. It was pointed
out at a number o£ meetings that nobody wanted all of the garages to load on
St. Clair, nobody wanted them to run through from St. Clair to Lexington. He
said that he likes the cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Wencl asked if there is any other possible way to configure the
development so that the cul-de-sac can be minimized, to position the house
more favorably on the site so as to limit the number that have to be accessed
£rom the a11ey. Mr. Beach responded that 90 feet is the minimum required by
the fire code and despite looking at other designs, in the end a better design
could not be identified.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Vaught said that the Lexington traffic significantly bothered
him. He said that he understood that the cul-de-sac oEf of Lexington likely
represented a compromise between what the original proposal was, which was to
use the alley exclusively for access. However, he noted that primary access
to the a11ey wi11 remain £or five of the units. He said he had significant
concerns and unanswered questions with respect to why Public Works was adamant
with respect to the design of this, as he didn't feel it makes sense.
Commiasioner Vaught moved a two-week layover, to November 13, 1997, to allow
Public Works` representatives to attend the meeting to address this issue.
Commissioner Gordon seconded the motion.
Commissioner Vaught welcomed the event Chat the neighborhood and the developer
might decide to meet to try and reach agreement.
Chair Field reviewed that in the event a compromise were arrived at, that the
public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Vaught included in his motion that the public hearing be reopened
in the event a compromise were reached, but would not a11ow for the revisiting
of any and all issues outlined at this meeting. Commissioner Gordon supported
the motion.
Commissioner Gordon also desired input from Public Works and wished to see any
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available data on the use of the a11ey.
Commissioner Vaught noted that the motion implies that the public hearing
would be opened in the event of a compromise with the Chair framing the
discussion and allowing testimony regarding only new issues.
The motion £or a layover to November 13 carried on a unanimous voice vote of
6 to 0.
Drafted by:
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Recording Secretary
S itted
Beth Bartz
Southwest Quadrant
Approved by:
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Chairpers,
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ZONING COMMITTHS STARF RSPORT
FILS # 97-207
1. APPLIC2:N'P: MENDOTA HOMES
DATS OF HEARING: 10/30/97
2. CLASSIFICATION: Special Condition Use
3. LOCATION: xxx LEXINGTON PKWY S(southwest quadrant of Lexington and St.
Clair)
4. PLA23NI23G DISTRICT: 16
5. LEGAL DESCR2PTION: see file
6. PRESENT ZONING: R-4 ZONING CODS RSFERENCE:§60.413 (13) &§64.300 (d)
7. STAFF INVBSTIGATION P.ND REPORT: DATS: October 17, 1997 BY: Beth Bartz
8. DATE RECEIVSD: 08/04/97 DEADLINE FOR ACTION: 12/02/97
A. PIIRPOSE: A special condition use permit to a11ow a 10 unit cluster
development.
B. PARCEL SIZE: The development parcel is roughly triangular in shape with
183.93 feet o£ frontage on Lexington Avenue. Total lot area is 107,380.5
square feet.
C. EXISTING LAND IISE: One storage building is currently located on the
property. Otherwise, it is vacanC.
D. SIIRROUNDING LAND IISE: The property is surrounded by single family homes on
the north and east, and by the Short Line railroad corridor and Ayd`Mill
Road diagonally on the southwest.
E. ZONING COnH CITATION: Sections 60.413 (13) and 64.300 (d) of the zoning
code permit cluster developments subject to the conditions detailed i.n
findings #2 and #3 of this report.
F. HISTORY/DISCIISSION: There are no previous zoning cases concerning this
property. A site plan review is also required. Initial reviews indicate
applicant has meC the site plan requirements; approval is pending on the
approval of the special conditional use permit.
G. DISTRICT COIINCIL RBCOMMENDAT20N: The Summit Hill AsSOCiation reviewed an
earlier proposal for a 12-unit cluster development on October 9, 1997.
They reoommended denial of the special conditional use permit for a 12-unit
development. The 10-unit proposal will be presented to the Zoning and Land
Use Committee of the Summit Hi11 Association on October 28, 1997. Any
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£urther recommendations will be presented at the October 30 public hearing
by the Planning Commission.
H, FINDINGS•
1. The applicant has a purchase agreement for the property proposed for
development. Ten dwelling units are proposed, 5 buildings of two units
each. Access to the parcel is proposed from Lexington Parkway via
private street. Five units wi11 access their garage from the private
street; the remaining five garages will be accessed by the existing
alley.
2. Chapter 60.413 (13) of the Zoning Code permits cluster developments
subject to the £ollowing conditions:
a. There shall be a minimum of two (2) units.
This condition is met. Ten units are planned.
b. The units shall be atCached, common wall, single-family, with no unit
iatruding on the vertica2 airspace of any other unit.
This condition is met. The units are paired side-by-side, with no
unit intruding on the vertical air space of any other unit.
c. The parcel sha12 meet the Iot area required per unit in the zoning
district.
This condition can be met. The 1ot area, including half of the a11ey
is 107,380.5 square feet. This allows 10,738.05 square feet per unit,
exceeding the 5000 square feet per unit requirement.
d. The parcel shall have a minimum frontage of eighty (80) feet on an
improved street.
This condition is met. The parcel has 183.93 feet o£ frontage on
Lexington Parkway.
e. The structure shaSl confozm to the schedu2e of regulations for
height, lot coverage, setbacks and parking.
This condition is met. As proposed, the develoment meets tfie
requirements for height, lot coverage and parking prescribed by the
zoning district. Twelve visitor parking spaces will be provided in
addition to a double garage for each unit. Zoning enforcemenC has
determined the £ront yard to be on Lexington, and the rear yard to be
the farthest northwest corner of the parcel. The plan appears to
meet all setback requires; LIEP will be con£irming conformance will
the front yard setback requirement next week.
f. The design sha12 be compatibSe with the sssrroundiag aeighborhood.
Overall the proposed design is compatible with the surrounding
neighborhood which consists o£ a mixture o£ 1, 1-1/2, and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs. Materials used in the
surrounding neighborhood include stucco, clapboard, metal siding, and
composite shingles. Windows are a mixture of double hung and fixed
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"picture" windows.
The proposed units are 1 to 2 sCOries in height with interseeting
gable roofs. (See drawings attached.) The applicant has not
specified which units will be one or two stories, but rather proposes
that decision be made with the potential buyer. Exterior material is
proposed to be vinyl siding. The overall massing, wtiile larger than
the typical home in the neighborhood due to the paired unit design,
is broken up by a central gabled bay. Porches and double hung
windows provide other design elements similar to houses in the area.
g. Individual lots, buildings, street and parkiag areas shall be
designed and situated to minimize alteration of the natural features
and topograpky.
The project would require some grading to provide proper drainage for
the site. The grading plan also includes construction of a storm
water pond near Lexington. However, the overall topography of the
site, including the slope into the railroad corridor, would not be
disturbed. Some of the existing trees in the sl.ope area of the site
would remain.
h. Applications for cluster deve2opment sfia21 ineSude site plans,
including landscaping and e2evations and other infozmation the
pSanning commissioa may request.
This condition is met. The applicant submitted a site plan,
landscape plan, and building elevations along with a written
description detailing the specifics of the development.
3. Section 64.300 (d) of the zoning code requires that before the planning
commission may grant approval of a principal use subject to special
conditions. the commission shall find that:
a. The extent, location and intensity of the use wi32 be in substantial
compliance with the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan and any applicable
subarea plans which were approved by the city counciZ.
The District 16 Plan does not include any proposals relevant to this
matter. The"re are no applicable small area plans for this area.
The Saint Paul Housing Policy for the 1990s recommends "expansion of
housing opportunities for middle and higher income households where
this market is or can be addressed in Saint Paul." The units in this
proposal will be priced at $139,900 -$200,000, addressing middle
income populations.
b. The use will provide adequate ingress and egress to minimize traffic
congestioa ia the public streets.
A private street wi11 provide primary access to the units and allow
emergency vehicle traffic and visitor parking. The Fire Department
has determined this access to be sufficient for emergency access.
Five of the ten units will access their garage from this private road
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as well. The remaining five units will access their units from the
alley. The applicant has agreed to make improvements to the alley as
part of the project.
Initially the applicant proposed extending the alley through to
Lexington raising concerns about traf£ic cutting through the alley to
avoid the intersection at St. Clair and Lexington. The current
proposal does not extend the existing alley and does not aonnect the
alley to the private street, eliminating the ability for traffic to
cut through.
Several residents have expressed concerns about any additional use of
the alley due to the proximity of the alley outlet to the St. Clair -
Lexington intersection and the width o£ the alley. Public Works has
reviewed the pzoposal and found the use of the alley and the proposed
curb cut acceptable provided the alley is paved and the entrance to
the private street from Lexington appear similar to a driveway
curbcut, rather than a street, to minimize confusion.
a. The use wi11 uot be detrimeatal to the existing charaeter of
development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger the public
health, safety and general we2fare.
This condition is met. The number of new dwelling units can be
accommodated by existing facilities and services provided by the
city. The private street will accommodate emergency vehicles and all
requirements for water, sewer and storm water have been met.
d. The use will not impede the normal aud orderZy development and
improvement of the surrounding propesty for uses permitted in tke
district.
This condition is met. The surrounding property is £ully developed.
The new housing will serve as a buffer between the single family
homes on St. Clair and Lexington and the railroad - Ayd Mill Road
cox'ridor.
e. The use sha11, in aIl other respects, coaform to the app2icab2e
regulations of the district in which it is located.
This condition is met.
2. STAFF RECObIDfEtIDATION: Based on findings 1 through 3 staff,recommends
approval of the special conditional use permit.
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SPECIAL CONDITION USE PERMIT APPLICATION
Department of Planning and Economic Development
Zoning Section
31 DO City Hall Annex
25 West Fourth Street
Saint Paut, MN SSIO2
266-6589
APPLICANT
PROPERTY
LOCATION
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TYPE O�F PERM : Application is hereby made under the provisions of Chapter ,
Section �t��' _, Paragraph l�_ of the Zoning Code for a:
� Speciai Condition Use Permit
❑ River Corridor Conditional Use Permit
❑ Modification of River Corridor Standards
SUPPORTING INFORMATION: in the space below supply information that is applicable to your type of
permit (attach additional sheets if necessary)
• SPECIAL CONDITION USE: Expiain how the use will meet each of the special conditions.
• RIVER CORRIDOR CONDITIONAL USE: Describe how the use will meet the applicable conditions.
• MODIFICATION OF RIVER CORRIDOR STANDARDS: Explain why modifications are needed.
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FORES7 L.AKE, MN 65025
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8eth Bartz
City of St. Paul
P{anning and Economic Development
25 West �ourth Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
We are proposing the development of a two-plus aere parcel of land located at the
southwest corner of the intersection of Laxington Qaricway South and St. Clair
Avenue in St. Paul. The devefopment will be a townhouse community consisting
of five fixinhomes.
'fhe property has streetfrontage of approximatoly 184 feet on Lexington Parkway.
tt then moves back and widens west of Lexington Parkway South to the front of the
altey behind the homes on Lexington Parkway South and St. Ciair Ave.
Ouf proposal is to build ten homes (five twinhomes) on this project site of 101,589
square feet. The averaga lot siza wili be 2,87D syuare feet. The reason this tot
size is signiftcantly smaller than originally proposed is due to the addition of an
outlot of 74,236 square feet labele8 as "Lot 11" on the preliminary plat.
in order to provide ac�ess to this properky, we propose a private drive off of
Lewngton Ave. that wil� service the garages of five of the townhome units. The
remaining ftve units wili have �arages and street access off the existing aileys and
St. Clair Avenue. This proposal is in r�sponse to concerns about tra�c increases
on Lexington Parkway. We feel that by routing half the traffic of the development
onto Lexington Parkway and haif onto St. Clair Ave., we mitigate the problem. In
addition, we have agreed to pave ti�e north/south and east/west alleys to provide a
hard surface roadvray for residents and neighbors.
After much discussion, we have praduced an exterior design that will be easify
incorporated into the varied design of the existing neighborhood which consists
m�in4y of one and two story structures with detached garages. Our townhomes
will'be a mixture of one attd two story units with and without basements. They wili
have two or three bedrooms, two or thfee bathrooms, and an attached, two-car
garage off the rear of the structure. Twenty covered and 2A uncoveted parking
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maintain the development.
A townhome association wi11 be put in place to
Much discussion has occurred on this development with The Summit Hill
Assocfatian, neigF�bors, and City oi St. Paul stafif. We feel we now have a well
ptaiined and designed development. We are hoping for a favorable response.
Sincerely,
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for �endota Nomes, inc.
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October 22, 1997
Beth Bartz
City of St. Paul
Planning and Economic Qevelopment
25 West Fourth Street
St. Paui, MN 55102
Dear Beth,
This IetEer serves fo Update our tetter of September 25, 1997, regarding pricing
and development costs of Lexington Commons Townhomes.
We remain committed to price ssnsitivity and providing a townhome product
suitable for purchase by r�sidents who already live in tho area of Lexington
Parkway and St. Glair Avenue. Ho�vever, due to fewer uniis in the developmant,
our prices have been adjusted upward to accomodate allocation of land
development costs. The Lexington Commons townhomes will now range in price
from $139,900.40 to around $200,000.00. The lower price delivers a rambler with
an unfinished basement. Prices then inerease according to number of leveis,
square footage, and interior selections.
In talking with individuals who are interosted in living in this development, we have
discovered that the increase in price has alienated some potential buyers. 4'Vhile
this is unfortunate, we have also received new inquiries from potential buyers
seeking a slightiy higher price range.
Overall, this project remains viable despito changes in price range. lnterest is stili
high and we look forvvard to approval and moving forward with construction.
Again, thank you very much for your continued support and suggestions on this
development.
Sincerely,
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Erin;E, Mathern
for f�lendota Homes, Inc.
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Beth B2rtz 86� Saint Clair Avenue
Planning and Economic Development saint Paui, Minnesota 5sios
25 West Fourth Street Te�ephone 612-222-1222
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102 Fax s�2-222-issa
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October 29, 1997
RE: Zoning File Number 97-207
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Dear Ms. Bartz and Members of the Zoning Committee of the Pianning Commission,
The Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hiil Association/District 16 Planning
Council met with Erin and John Mathern of Mendota Homes in August, September and
October to discuss their proposal for a ten unit ciuster development southwest of Lexington
and St. Clair. Throughout the process, the Matherns have been willing to discuss their proposal
and have made changes and adjustments in response to concerns raised at these meetings.
However, it is the opinion of the Zoning and Land Use Committee that there are still significant
issues which have not been addressed in a satisfactory manner. Briefly, these issues are
safety, density, soil conditions and architecture:
• The traffic on Lexington is close to its maximum capacity and may actually reach
maximum capacity during rush hour.
• There is evidence that this site may be a former dumpsite. Yet the developer has
little knowledge of the condition of the soil. A soii test shouid be done and should be
determined to be acceptab4e for a development of this size.
• The multiple concerns of the Canadian Pacific Railroad have not been addressed. A
vibration test should be done and should be determined to be acceptable for
residential habitation.
• The developer has not adequately addressed several issues regarding the aliey; in
particular, the actual finished width and assessments.
• There remains concern over adequate maneuvering room for emergency vehicles
and garbage trucks.
• The scale of the townhomes is out of proportion with the adjacent homes.
• The character and the aesthetic of the townhome development is inappropriate for
this particular site.
Therefore, the Zoning and Land Use Committee of the Summit Hill Association/District 16
Pfanning Council recommends denial ofi the requesi by Mendota Homes for a Speciai
Condition Use Permit in order to construct a ten unit cluster development southwest of
texington and St. Cfair.
Sincerely,
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Charles Skrief, Chair
Zoning and Land Use Committee
Summit Hili Association/District 16 Planning Council
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Beth .Bartz
City of St. Paul
Department of Planning and Zoning
1100 City Hail Annex
25 West 4th Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Mendota Homes/Lexington and St. Clair
Zoning File 97-207
Dear Beth:
I would like to take this opportunity to express my support for the proposed
development of townhomes on the southeast corner of Lexington Parkway and
St. Ciair Avenue. { live in a townhome at Wilder Park, direct4y across Ayd Mili
Road from this proposed development. The townhouse style of living appeals to
those of us who do not want the upkeep of a single family home. �he possibifity
of having more townhomes in this area is an exciting one, since it would allow
peopfe to have this styie of iiving, but remain in the city.
1 understand that there are serious concerns regarding access to this site. When
there are so few lots available in the city for new homes to be built, I think it
essential that some sort of compromise be worked out to enable this
development to proceed. I encourage all parties to work toward a safe, realistic
solution which would aliow these homes to be built.
Thank you.
Very truly yours,
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Kate cGough
1172 St. Clair Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105
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St Paul, MN 55105
November 5, 1997
Dept. of Planning &
Economic Development
Att'n: Beth Bartz
1100 City Hall Annex
25 W. 4th St.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Zoning File 97-207
Mendota Homes
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We support the modified proposal to build ten townhomes in the southwest
quadrant of Lexington & St. Clair.
We live in Wilder Park, across Ayd Mill Road from the proposed development.
We understand that access remains an issue, and we urge you and the developer to find
a suitable compromise that will allow the project to move forwazd. St. Paul needs to
encourage these types of developments to provide housing choices, help keep our t�
base viable, and to encourage people to remain in--or perhaps move back to—the city.
With so littie space available for cluster development in St. Paul, a creative solution
must be found that atlows the community to take advantage of this unique opportunity.
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To: Zoning Committee of the Saint Paul Planning Commission
25 West Fourth Street
100 City Hall Annes
Saint Paul, �' S5102
From: Le�ngton & Saint Clair Property Owners prosimate to Subject Development (below)
Subject: Special condirion use permit far 10-unit cluster development called Lexington Commons
Zoning File Number: 97-207
Zoning File l�iame: MENDOTA HOMES
References:
• Article; Highland Villager, August 6, 1997; MnDOT foresees uaffic congestion without Ayd Mill Road Connection.
• Article; Highland Villager, October 8, 1997; Ciry Council iejeas request fo= MaoGrove townhomes.
• Sumaxit Hill Association and Distsict 16 Planning Council; 1997 Goals and Objectices
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We, the undersigned property owners, are unanimously opposed to the proposed cluster development as
wimessed by our signatures on this document. We describe in this letter our reasons why we are opposed
to this project.
We want the Zoning Committee to deny the proposed cluster development. Our rationale:
TRAFFIC DENSITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY
I.exington Avenue is a very hi� volume toadway, especially beriveen I-94 and Randolph; we believe that this project will
exacexbate the tcaffic density in tlus corridor, zefez to the attached article from Highland Villagez, August 6,1997.
Accident frequenry at St. Clair and Lexington is high; we believe that the additional entry/exit traffic to/from the pxoposed
duster development will inczease the frequency of accidents due to the very short haffic mixiug length afforded by the
available sites for new stieet access to the pzoject. It is very probable that the point of intersection of the proposed street access
with Lexington Pazkway coincides with the ma�imum tcaffic velocity in both the north- and south-bound directions; thus
making it very difficult foz traffic movements into and out of the proposed development
We believe that the pzoposed pxoject will cieate a vauetp of tcaffic aad safety pioblems of significant pxoportions. Private street
access for the project onto Lexington Pa:kway will occur at the bottom of the valley betmeen St. Claix and Jeffrxson, just before
the bridge (southboun� oveL Apd Mill Road. Two feanues of This geometry combine to form a dangerous set of traffic
conditions: (1) this low point is whete traffic will typically have its maximum velocity, (2) drivexs atteniion is drewn to points
above the madwap to the traffic lights at the top of the hill (m eithez direction St Qair for northbound tiaffic and Jefferson for
southbound ttaffic). Thus, with cacs at maximum velocitp and with daveis looking ahead to see if ihey can make the lights, the
traffic will be ill pzepazed foz perpendiculaz uaffic movements enteting/leaving the I.eaiagron madwap at the end of the
bridge.
Summit F3il1 Association recognizes the tzaffic problems in District 16 and has set polides to promote traffic c lm a pmjects;
the pmposed project is in duect conflict mith these traffio-calmuig objectives.
PARBING ISSUE
Gurmndy it is possible for guests and escess parking in the reaz of zesideats on Leffington Parkway. With the increased traffic
and deaease in appazent useable surface, parking will no longez be possible in the alleys. The altemative is pazking on
Lexington Pazkmay. Wlule pazking is only restricted there Monday thru Faday and then only during rush hou=s, absolutely none
of the residents park thexe during other houts because the huge potential for causing a fatality. This is not just an opinion. We
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have done studies where cus aze parked duzing daylight hours and seen the number of neaz accidents that occuL We have not
tried this during night hours on weekends because we aze not prepazed to accept the responsibility for the accident ihat will
occua
ARCFiITECTURAL HARMONY
We find ihe plaaned decelopment m be inconsistent wirh e�sting neighborhood arrhitectuie that is currendy all single-family
homes with detached gerages
The Rambler styling, walkout basemenrs and cul-de-sac sueet organization w-ill make the pmject look ]ike �X/oodbury-in-Saint-
Paul very much out of character for the area.
ALLEY ACCESSIBILITY AND TRAFFIC
The subject development will place about a 30% increase in alley traffic aboae that esisting today. The alley in quesrion is a tee
with dead-end ternrinations and no tumarovnds. An 18-foot opening off of St Clair avenue approximaiely 120 feet west of ihe
intexsection of St. Clair and I.esingtoa Pazkway affocds enttance. Figure (ENTER) shows ihis entrance to rhe alley.
The increase in alley treffic will deczease properry calues for rhe residents on Lexington Parkway and St. Clair Avenue.
Neighbors have successfiilly appealed increased properry valuations by arguing incteased street uaffic causes deteriorating
pxopetry values.
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This is the entrance &om St
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alley rhat sezves 18 neighbors.
Note the small access road
widch. Its ONE GAR WIDE!
Traffic is always very 6eavy
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NEIGHBORAOOD CHARACTER
Constrvcfion plans call fnz a pavate sixeet to secvice the proposed development Building this srreet will zequice the xemoval of
most, if not all, of the trees along the vdge that forms the pzoperty boundary of Reuth's Lot 19. Removing these trees will
exacerbate the existing soil ezosion condirions along Ayd Mill Road. Additionally, these nees form a windbxeak and sound
barrier for the neighborhood; it would be important to keep tliis function for the pioposed homes due to ihe high levels of
uaffic noise (auto and railroad) fiom Lexington, Ayd Mill Road and ihe Soo Line tracks.
There is a kind of Gateway to ihe azea of Saint Paul noxth of Ayd Nfill Road which is formed by the uees along ridge of the
railroad cut Figure (GA3'E) shows the effect that ihese irees have in prociding the green enu�zcay to the city u one proceeds
north on Lexington. Aemoving the tcees to make way for the private stceet access to the ptoposed project will dcastically alter
the chazacter of the neighborhood.
Summit Hill Association has speufic objectives to ptomote greening of District 16. Tlus proposed development is in direct
conflict with these greening objectives.
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This wrould be a drastic and
irrecocable modification of the
neighborhood chazacteL
FIRE AND SECURITY
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Fire company access to buildings in the pioposed addition would be severely limited by ihe alley access which has overhead
powerlines, restriaed width (single lane) and will require fire rigs to either enter or exit by bac6ing up since rhere is no
pzovision foc tumaround of large azticulated vehicles. Curiendy the waste disposal vehicles (considerable shorrer than hook-
and-ladder equipment) must back up and rurn azound in the tee of ihe alley ln order to access nelghborhobd waste picb
The alley is not designed to serve as a traffic laterat, a role ihat is forced on it now due to pazking limitations and the unique
configuration of the site. It is unsafe now, with no additional traffic. You can't say ihat it will get 30% more unsafe; instead
there w-ill be a disproportionate, nonlineaz increase in safery threat due to ihis tiaffic loading.
STRUCTURAL AND EKVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
We believe diat Lot 19 Reuth's Addition will be built on a former waste disposal site. Current residents have recently at[empted
modemizadon and expansion pmjects. These piojects have shown tY�at the sod in Reuth's Addition is composed of dischazge
material such as coal ash and domestic detatus of verg porous chazactec wtuch in some cases has cequired footings of up to 24
feet in otder to meet consttuction codes of Saint Paul.
We believe that soil stabiliry will pose pLOblems during development foz existing homes in the neighbozhood and will affect
post-development homes strucnual quality. We believe that Ruerhs Addition Lot 19 is the youngest azea of the waste disposal
site and would thecefoxe have ihe least stable soil chatacteristics and greatest potential for hazudous substance entrainment
We have concems about the structural integrity of slab-on-grade houses built on soil of dubious stabiliry; espedallp as this
affects rhe long-term prospects of our community as a whole.
We believe that there is reason to question the environmentai condirion of subsurface soils; i.e. waste disposal fill material will
ptobably contain agents wluch would xequise remediation befoze the soil could be dassified as enviionmentally acceptable foz
homes. Neighbois hace found cieosote tteated railmad ties, lead pipe, bottle glass, coal ash and other debds.
We aze concemed ihat no rigorous and unbiased soil samp3ing has been attempted; we aze not aware of any actual soil resting
has been accomplished on a scale which would permit accurate evaluation of the soil strucmral and environmental qualiry of
Reuth's I.ot 19.
We believe that paor to wnsiderarion of the duster de� the issue of soil condition (structure and encironmental
hazazds) should be resolved fhtough soil tesring.
ECONO�IIC BEA'EFIT
The property, Reuth's Lot 19, has been dassified as having no economic value and has been murimally assessed as such for
many years. To the best of our knowledge, Reuth's Lot 19 was purchase under a Saint Paul surplus propertp program. The
buyer I:new the state of the piopezt� its access limitations and existing soil condition at the time of purchase.
Denying the special condition use perntit will thecefoie not hazm the cuccent ownec The tand is zoned fot Residential
developmeat of single family dwellings and can be sold and/or developed for such purposes.
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We, the neighbors, should not be placed at risL- by City Council to be unieasonably affected by the monetazy goals of either ihe
seller or a developer whose sole purpose is to make monej: We hope that greed of those seeking the special condirion use
pexmit dces not tal.e precedence ovex the desiie of our neighborhood to retain its individuality and charactez
ECOVOhfICS OF DEVELOPhfE1VT
We do not believe there is sufficient marl:et intecest in new construction in a neighborhood w�th home value chazacteristics that
e�st in Reurh's Additioa. Ecea ihough Mendota Homes hu indicated there is interest in the development by persons unL-nown;
we believe that thete is a significant diffecence in intetest and intent 2o buy. We believe that the detractozs 2o the pmpetry
described belom will dampen the interest of the prospective buyes.
We believe that there aze significant detraaoxs which will affect the mazketability of the proposed units: pro�miry to railroad
right-of-way; tcaffic density and entrance/egLess to Lexington Pazb proximity to aircraft appxoaches at MSP Intemational
Airport; un-resolved I-35 Conneaor issues; proximiry to NSP lugh-voltage transmission lines; pending iecreational bike-parh
pmject All of these issues would negarively affect an astute potential buye�s decision to pucchase.
Mazket prices quoted by Mendota Homes fox the units are up to 5180,000. The average home value in fltis neighborhood is
around $8Q000. This means that the proposed uni[s will be valued an mote than 2_times the existing homes We believe that
astute home buyecs would not consider such an investment in ielatively over-priced =eal estate; especially given ihe aesthetics of
the primary ciew from the pioposed residences. Loo�ng from ihe bxow of the hill bordering on the Aqd Mill Road at the
apptosimate location of the ptoposed private sneet access to the project properries is the 14plus story brick Wilder high-rise
and NSP high voltage transmission lines which dominate the view
CLOSING REQUEST
We ask you to please acknowledge our voice as residents of this community and vote to denp any variances
to existing ailowed development.
Sincerely,
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1100 City Hall Annex
St. Paul, MN. 55102
Dear Commissioners:
Re: Zoning file number 97-207: Mendota Homes
I am opposed to a speciai condition use pemut to allow a 10 unit cluster development for
the reasons of safety, trafTic, and character of the neighborhood.
The visitors that now pazk on the side or our garages will no longer be able to park there.
They will instead need to pazk on Lexington Parkway thus eliminating one lane on uaffic
between St. Clair and the bridge over Ayd Mill Road. This poses a safety problem as the
cars going south on Le�ngton Parkway will not be able to cleazly see the park cars.
The additional street or road entrance/e�t onto Lexington by the bridge over Ayd Mill
Road will cause additional problems. This is because both the northbound and the
southbound traffic on Leacington Pazkway has hills. The placement of the opening is at the
bottom of both hills.
The aliey is not wide enough for two cars to use at the same time. If a car is coming in
and a car is going out one of the cars must backup. The means backing up onto to St.
Clair on backing down the aliey until you have enough room to stop. The garbage trucks
need to back out from the north/south alley to the east/west alley to tum around to leave
the alley or vice versa. Our alley in unique in that there is only one entrance/exit. I do not
think our alley could handie any additional cars.
I am against the tearing down of the trees along Ayd Mill Road side of the property
because they act as a sound barrier from the train and traffic noise on Ady Mill Road and
the Soo Line railroad tracks. It wili also change the view and the privacy that people have
when using the backyards for entertaining. It will change the chazacter of the
neighborhood.
Sincerely Yours, �
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Alberta L. Binker
263 So. Lexington Pkwy.
St. Paul, MN. 55105
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?5 �:/PSt Kellogg Blvd.
St. Pa.ul, M1V 55102
DPar Sirs:
I am writing regarding a spPCia.l pPrmit for
P�Yendota HomPS, to build a 13 unit cluster
dPVelopmPrit on thP southwPSt quadrant of
Zexington and St, Clair AvenuPS in St. Paul.
I am definitPl,y against this zoning change
for this small parcel of land. It is a green
spacP so badly nPeded in cities nov:. There
are Pnough homes in this area nou� plus the
railraod tracks and steam lines so near.
I certainl,y hope common sense will be used
regarding this matter and leave thP area
alone:
SincerPly,
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August 27, 1997
Zoning Committee
City of St. Paul
25 West Fourth St.
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�ONING
RE: Zoning File Number 97-207, Mendota Homes
Special conditional use pemut to allow a 13 unit cluster development
Southwest quadrant ofLexington and St. Ciair
CPR Mileage 414, Merriam Park Subdivision
To whom it may concern:
We have reviewed the above-mentioned proposal and wish to state our opposition to it.
Residential development adjacent to our right-of-way is not compatible with railway
operations. The health, safety and welfare of potential residents could be adversely
affected by railway activities.
. Notwithstandin� our opposition, should the proposed draft plan of subdivision be
approved, Canadian Pacific Railway requests that the following conditions be imposed on
the development:
1. Berm, or combination berm and noise attenuation fence, havins extensions or retums
at the ends, to be erected on adjoining property, parallel to the railway right-of-way
with construction accordin� to the following specifications:
a) Minimum total heisht of 18 feet above top-of-rail;
b) Berm minimum height 8 feet and side slopes not steeper than 2.5:1;
c) Fence, or wall, to be constructed without openines and of a durabie material
weighing not less than 4 Ib/sq. ft. of surface azea.
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I`TO part of berm/noise barrier is to be constructed on railway property.
A clause should be inserted in all offers of sale and purchase or lease, and be registered
on title or included in the lease for each dwelling affected by any noise and vibration
attenuation measures, advisin� that any berm, fencin„ or vibration isolation features
implemented are not to be tampered with or altered, and further that the owner shall
have the sole responsibility for and shall maintain these features.
Dwellings must be constructed such that the interior noise levels meet the criteria of
the appropriate authority. A noise study should be cazried out by a professional noise
consultant to detemune what impact, if any, railway noise would have on residents of
proposed subdivisions and to recommend mitigation measures if required. The
recommendations of the sTudy aze to be implemented. -
2. Setback of dwellings from the railway right-of-way to be a minimum of 90 feet. While
no dwelling should be closer, an unoccupied building, such as a garage, may be built
closer. The 8 feet hi�h earth berm adjacent to the right-of-way must be provided in all
instances.
3. Ground vibration transmission to be estimated through site tests. If in excess of the
acceptable levels, all dwellings within 225 feet of the nearest track should be
protected. The measures employed may be:
a) Support the buildin� on rubber pads between the foundation and the occupied
structure so that the maximum vertical natural frequency of the stnxcture on the
pads is 12 Hz;
- b) Insulate the buiiding from the vibration ori�inatin' at the railway tracks by an
intervening discontinuity or by installing adequate insulation outside the building,
protected from compaction that would reduce its effectiveness so that vibration in
the building became unacceptable; or
c) Other adequate measures that �vill retain their effectiveness over time
4. A clause should be inserted in all offers to purchase, agreements of sale and purchase
or lease and in the title deed or lease of each dwelling, warnine prospective purchasers
or tenants of the e�stence of the Railwav's operating right-of-way; the possibility of
alterations, including the possibility that the Railway may expand its operations, which
expansion may affect the living envuonment of the residents notwithstandin� the
inclusion of noise and vibration attenuating measures in the desien of the subdivision
and individual units, and that the Railway will not be responsible for complaints or
claims arising from use of its facilities and/or operations.
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5. Any proposed alterations to the e3cisting drainage pattern affecting railway property
must receive prior concurrence from the Railway, and be substantiated by a draina�e
report.
6. Any proposed utilities under or over railway property to serve the development must
be approved prior to their installation and be covered by the Railway's standard
a�reement.
7. A 6 foot high chain link fence should be constructed and maintained along the
common property line of the Railway and the development by the developer at his
expense, and the developer is made aware of the necessity of includin� a covenant
running with the lands, in all deeds, obliging the purchasers of the land to maintain the
fence in a satisfactory condition at their expense.
To ensure the safety and comfort of adjacent residents and to mitigate as much as possible
the inherent adverse environmental factors, your assurance that the above conditions witl
be imgosed on the developer would be appreciated.
We would appreciate being advised of your decision regarding this proposal in due course.
Sincerely,
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David S. Drach
Area Manager
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Ms. Beth Bartz
Zoning Office
City of St. Paul
1100 Ciry Hall Annex
25 West Fourth Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Southwest Quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair
Applicant: Mendota Homes
Zoning File No. 97-207
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I am enclosing for your reference copies of three court decisions involving John Mathern, a principal in
Mendota Homes
An Order in mortgage foreclosure action on townhomes built in Washington County;
2. An Order granting United Mortgage Company relief in the bankruptcy of John and
Sandra Mathern and denying the Matherns' discharge;
An Order confirmine the bankruptcy court's denial of the Matherns' discharge in
bankrup[cy.
As I no[ed to you on the phone, Mathems did brina an action against their bankruptcy attorney
in connection with their bankruptcy filing.
In addition to reservations about the developer, I think the site is quite small for the ambitious
project proposed. Substan�ial tra�c will be brouoht into the neighborhood. The budszt raises
concerns about the project's viabiliry, suggestin� the project should be rejected for a special conditional
use permit.
Very tmly yours,
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4000 FIRST B?�\"B PLACE
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PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
ZONING COMMITEE
OF THE SAINT PAUL PLANNING COMMISSION
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southwest quadrant of Lexington and St. Clair ,a , r
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TIME OF HEARING
PL ACF OF HEARIl�'G
HOW TO PARTICIPATE
A1�TI' QUESTIONS
Thursday, 10/30/97 at 3:30 p.m.
Cit}' Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City� Hall-Cour House
15 West Kelloge Blvd, Saint Paul, ivIIv' S5102
1. You ma�� attend hzarino and testif� .
2. You mav send a letter before the hearina to the Zonine Committee. �:
�Vest Fourth St, 1100 City Halt Annex Saint Pau1, M1v » 102.
3. Participation is not required. This is your notice of public hearins.
Call Beth Baztz of the South«•est tzam at 266-6�80 or your District C ounc,:
Representati��e at 222-1222 �sith the follou information:
Zonin� File Number 97-207
Zoning File Iv'ame MENDOTA HONIES
Mailing Date i0/17 47
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David & Helene I,evy Schultz
1120 Saint Clau Avenue
Saint Paul, Minnesota 5�10�
292-1096
October 20, 1997
Zoning Committee
c/o Beth Bartz
25 West Fourth Street
1100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear Zoning Committee Members:
Re: Mendota Homes/ file number 97-207
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We are properiy owners abutting on tbe proposed developed for a ten unit cluster
development at the southwest quadrant of Lexington and Saint Clair. We oppose the
granting of a special condition use permit to permit this development and we urge members
of your committee and the entire Planning Commission to oppose the special use permit.
There are several reasons why we oppose the granting of the special use permit.
The Mendota Homes project poses a traffic safety problem for the
neighboThood. On the one hand, the development will create an egress on to Lexington
Avenue next to the bridge crossing Ayd Mill parkway and the railroad tracks. This new
eeress will force additional cars and traffic on to a road that MNDOT has alreadv described
- as one of the busiest roads in Saint Paul. (see attached Highland Villager article) Already,
the traffic con�estion on Lexington makes it difficult to enter this street and the Mendota
Homes development would only exacerbate the problem. In addition, unlike other
residential streets in the neiahborhood that have altemative egresses besides entering on to
Lexington, the Mendota Homes development w�ill not.
An eQress at this ]ocation will pose riro additional traffic safetv�roblems. First, the egress
�vill come at the base of a slope of an incline that makes it difficult to see oncouung traffic.
This slope thus creates a visual hazard that w�il make tums across tbe Vaf6c very difficult.
Second, an e�ress here will create a hazard for people wishing to make left tums across the
traffic. There is no question that such tums «zli cause traffic backups. additional con�esrion,
' and accidents.
In addirion to tbe traffic problems Mendota Homes wil] cause by the creation of a new
earess on to Lexinaton, the project also calls for the use of an exisring and small alley off
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of Saint Clair as egress for several of the units. This additional demand on the alley is also
a traf6c safety problem for several reasons. First, the alley is very narrow (ZO feet across)
and seivice vehicles and passenger cars already have difficulty driving down it Moreover,
there is no possibility of widening tbe alley. Second. the allev already enters on to a verv
busy intersection where there are many traffic accidents. Those of us �vho already use the
alley for our homes have difficulty entering and leaving the alley because of the Saint Clair
traffia Third, tlie traffic demand on this alley_is alread�reat and the proposed Mendota
Homes development would si�nificantiv increase the number of cars in an allev alreadV
overcrowded. Fourth, unlike other alleys that laave two egresses, the Saint Clair alley only
has one. This means sib ificant stress on an existing al]ey a3ready overused, placing the
additional traffic on to a very busy street. Hence, adding more traffic makes no sense.
The Mendota Homes pro,ject should be denied a special condition use permit
because similar projects for this property have been turned down in the past.
Several times in tl�e past requests for development at this location have been made and the
City l�as consistenUy turned tl�e project down citing dwelling density, congestion, and traffic
safety issues on Saint Clair. Those decisions were made when the traffic congestion on the
street was much less than it is today.
The Mendota Homes project will create �re safety problems. Because of the
narrowness of the Saint Clair alley and the traffic conQestion on Saint Clair and Lexington.
it wil] be verv difficult for public safetv vehicles. e.g., fire, police and ambulance services, to
enter the Mendota Homes develo np �ent• While the developer contends that his proposed
L,e�ngton egress will be accommodate public safety vehicles, we do not believe that is the
case. Especially in situations during rush hours, or when residents have guests over, the
additional cars parked in the area will make entrance by service vehicles problematic.
The Mendota Homes project is inconsistent with the overall integrity of the
neighbor.hood. An important consideration in granting a special use permit is that the
project fit in with the overall intearitv of the neighborhood. On several fronts, this
development does not. First. it creates a type of unit— cluster development—that is out of
character witb tl�e rest of the homes in the neiohborhood. The rest of the houses are single
famih� detached units. Second, the architectural stvle of the proposed units is inconsistent
�oith the houses in the neishborhood. Third, a cul-de-sac development like Ylendota Homes
is inconsistent «ith the type of development �ce have or want in this neiQhborhood. Fourth,
the project increases unit densit�� beyond what is compatible ��ith the current neiQhborhood.
The Mendota Homes project is inconsistent with the comprehensive plan for
the neighborhood. The comprehensive plan for this area of Saint Paul does not call for
this t�rpe of development or increase in the unit densiri�. Since zonin? laws. ��ariances, and
permits must be consistent �iith the overall comprehensive plan. the cluster development
specia] unit permit shou]d be aiewed as a form of spot zonina that is contran� to citv law and
the overall development plans for the nei�bborhood.
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The Mendota Homes request for a special condition use permit to buiid cluster `
units shouid be rejected for the same reasons a similar project on Juliet and
I.exington was TejeCted. Law, as well as fairness dictates that equals should be treated
the same. Here, the Mendota Homes project is very similar to a special condition use
permit for cluster development that you and the City Council rejected recently on Juliet.
There, tl�e basis of rejection was traffic safety, emergency vehicle access, a lack of harmony
bet�veen the proposed project and the neighborhood, and lack of support by neighbors. (see
attached Highland Villager article) T7ie same conditions are present here except to the
e�tent that the Mendota Homes project has even less direct access to a main street than did
the 7uliet project. Hence, fairness and the ]aw dictate that you reject the special condition
use permit.
The Mendota Homes request for a spe�ial condition use permit should be
denied because none of the neighbors abutting on the project support it.
Lacking community support from those who must live near the project, we urge you to
oppose the granting of a special condition use perrnit for Mendota Homes.
'I'hank you for considering our letter and viewpoint.
Sincerely,
�L�r�. ����
Helene Levy Schultz -
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David & Helene Lery Schultz'htendota Homes
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N�nDOZ foreseQS traf�ic car�ges�ia�
City Counci) rejects request
for Mac-Grove townhomes
�1 proposed Macalester-Groveland hous-
ing development was dealt another setback
on September 2�4 whzn the St. Paut City
Council rejected a request by Highland Park
dzveloper John Kratz to vacatz a section of
Paiace �venue.
i:*a:z :can[s to construct a two-building,
eisht-uni_ townnome complex on about
=9.000 sauazz fzzt ot ��acant land that he ol� ns
zast o* Lzx�r.g*.or. Parkwav bem�een Palace
and Juiiet a: enues. Hz ���as hoFinQ to a C{� L^.2
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rz>: oEni> r:oper,;�.�chxh nz purnaszefrom
,ie \tiar.z�o.a Dzpz:tment ot T: ar.spo:.a-
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L�� s: Ju: z thz �ir: Cour,cil re;eaed nra:z's
reaues: ier a s�eci�I coaditior, usz ee: :ii*. to
build a"c:uster dzvz(ovmer.t;' a construc:ion
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j siSle.The�lacalzste:-G:oazlzn�Com:acnirv
� Cuun:il i:ad rzcommznded that t:.z oermi:
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said the council should not approve the street
vacation until Kratz and his neighbors can
agree on a development plan for the prooerr.��
witho�� Ayd Mi�l Road conne��ion
byJane;�IcClure � tzattheanatysisdidro:zndicateLSa;,.
. ,e:szc:ior.sx�ouldzxpe:iencesiga:ficzr.,,,-
� Proposedcor:ectionsben+•eenAqdi�tilL_f.cpreolems."Ionl�seesieintzrseccicn>o•,
Road and I-91 wiL be o.zser:ted to the Ayd c:-aci.y;'said �iacaiescer-Grove!aac :e���_
�Mi11 Road Task Force aU:00 p.n. �Ionda•r, � se�tatr:° Kac� \.fcGough."bVhv 2re •.re :oe's-
Augus:l3, at thz �izrriam Pzr1: Community i:g at milIions aad millions ef dolia: s:e, c
Centz:, 2000 SC 3nthor.y A•:e. Thz task force, >iiil Road iP.+�e can hzr.d'tz the t:a�:ic �.: i;.i "e
which is composed of rzpresentatives fron 5::2°G`n'e 42 oOCY�� -
local commenirr councils,businzss associa- �I:.l Klassen oFthz SL Paul Puoiic �.�or.:;
'tionsandocherne:ghboihood�rouos,hopes Dzpa:tment respondzd tha[ probi�c:> al-
to make a recomnendation'on thz future of readv esistir.g at somz intersections cs ;no;
thero2dway:n19S3. - rzzdilcberecufiedwithoutdiveCin�::�;c-c
Connzctino d.d �[ilf Road's south end is A�'d �Iill Road. No solu;ion has be�a _ou�c
simolvamarerofremocingL`�ebarriersnear ferthecapacityproblemsloomin�;;3a::_
JefTerson Avenue and I-3�E. Connzctin� the c'eloh and I-35E or at Selby and Sr.e:;i ,�, j:2
Ayd �.Iill Road's north end to I-94 is another s:�d.
matter.Sevzralconnections, Hzreare44ekeyfindin�sfrointhzz::zivsis:
and interchange layouts are being studizd, • Snzlling Avenue is expected to >ze .h�
and a?I involve 4'�e removal of residential and la:gesc increase in trafric bythe ye;: 30?0.
comme:cial propzrties. Strong opposition to Pza: ai,ernoon rush hour traftic ve•._mz i>
anyconnectiononthenorthendhasblockzd 'c�*readvat2,375vehidesanhoura*._4-�:ir.�
the comple!ion o; Ayd �titl Road since thz - aac Shz:burnz;3,600 at Snzlline and :=_::har;
195Cs. ' � � a: d 2,100 at Snellin� and Lincoi. . i�os:
Or.e of the ootions still bzeng e;;zd forAyd r.c.mbers are expectzd to intrease o�: z_ e::: :?
Mill is [o do nothing. fioweve:, city and statz perceat-to 2,750, 4, I CO ar.d 2,72=, rzsoec-
officizls say iailcrz to connec; the roadtivay to tiszly—if Ayd Mill is r.ot connzet:? :o ta:
[he ir.rerstate svstzm i4'i11 result in inc*eased" ?e��vavs4s�e� _��,_____� _._
traficonalreadycon�estzdareastre�s. • T:aftic on Lexing[on Parkecav, e_::�c�
Treresultsofat.afficanai/sisofnei�hbor- o-eoithearea'sbusiests.reetsdu*i-=:us�
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Tuesdav, Januarv 13. 1998
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REMARKS
Conceminp "lexinqton Commons proposal (�Lexinpton and St. Clair'
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look�d u� their addresses f 1166 and f 172 St. Clair) and nofed thev are not in our neiqhborhood but
across the freeway from the or000sed developemerrt T hank vou for distnbutina this
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I'm here to read a letter signed by ail af my neighbors. I'd like to note that aimost
all of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the
five public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown
up for at least one of the five private meetings held in various neighbor's homes
or rented community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people
living next to the site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington
Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the tollowing list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
• ProperEy Acquisition
The property consists of two loes. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked
� lot behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surplus county
property for hundreds of dollars. It was deemed valueless or near so then
because of it's unsuitability for development. We are not saying you can't
develop properey because it was deemed valueless at some point in its history.
We just want to be clear that there is no mayor investment or livelihood that we
are threatening with denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of value of their property. It
has accurately been described as valueless in past, peopie have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
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• Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to
deveiop the property under the existing zoning before issuing a speciai use
permit. The owner has not done this. 'Fhere has never been a discussion of
developing the site as zoned_ The site is zoned single family residential, and the
owner has not tried to put singie family residential there. This can happen with
no changes, to the property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen,
with some changes, to the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this
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Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
• Aliey Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two,
not one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone
involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
AlI the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have
happened already due to combination of density of existing traffic and proximity
of the alley (125'} to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the aliey would require a paved surface 16' wide_ This
would require removal of the trees in the ailey and supporting of existing
structures.
• Existing Property Values
Initially some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. it was
thought that if you put new housing woxth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an
existing oId house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would
actually devalue the existing house. However at one of our private meetings we
invited a number of real estate professionats to speak to us. Two of them inform
us this would not be the case. However both were very emphatic that amenities
to the neighborhood are indeed lost, and that their statements on property value
were very much contingent on the proposal being completed and completed
correctly.
However even with this assurance sume are still fearful. This concern was listed
in this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made awaxe of who the developer is. I'd like to return
to this issue a bit later.
• Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
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2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the wamings issued by the railraad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has
indicated that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a
minimum of two schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
developments.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the
very least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this,
no soil barings have been performed. Instead, slab on grade construction has
been proposed.
4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; wiil it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears
that if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving
a mess behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more
deviation or variances, because there will be a need to restore the site inio
something usable. In 1978 Roger Vik pr�posed apartment buildings with
underground garages. Will this proposal come back?
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
stnzctures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. The anly really compatib2e item will be that
they house people.
You go from a 64' or 9Q+' by 25' structures with attached garages of 800 sq feet for
a total of 24Q0 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging
from 600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go Erom a mixEure over SQ years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
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� The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a pubiic street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to �200,000
Again the requirement is far granting a special use permit that compatibility
exists. Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation
of the word compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non
existent one. We believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word
`compatible' is being stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
• Safety
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We feel staff and P1aruling Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the
ptoposal be safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use
permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionals in municipal traffic and municipal engineering
testify that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments
are on public record. There has been no conflicEing testimony from City Staff,
engineering or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as
to distance from a signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight
requirements, and that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, carne
from staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning
commission. Later at another public meeting the same planning commission
member, when quizzed on how informative Public Works was, stated his
disappointment in them. While he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion
he was disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is safe'. We, the
neighbors, are equally disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is
unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this issue later.
Again, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal
engineering and municipal traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions.
One was very descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills,
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. distracting characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff
and they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they
could or would not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safery hazards by requiring a no
le£t turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This
inadequately address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the
two hills Iocated right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to
look like a driveway, not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no
corresponding effort to regulate left turns into the site from north bound
Lexington Parkway, again causing an unexpected road blockage for norEh bound
traffic and crossing over south bound traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason
to condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over
decades and correcting them may not be practical now.
Storm Water Mana� ment
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements
� that are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement
being applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of induscrial or
business expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas or in
park areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the
developer seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon
this particular safety issue.
Parking On Lexington
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington
Parkway, on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing
private property, with the end resuit be3ng that guest of residents on Lexington
end up parking on Lexington, you will almost for sure be causing a tatality.
Residents have done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight
and observing the number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents
occurred almost every signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be
__ conducted_ This issue has not been addressed at all by staff because it is a- ---
seconctary effect of the proposal. But without this proposal it would not happen
at all.
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This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a halt way house moving in, or a]ibrary, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the awner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
• Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development
where the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged
� and deveiopment within existing highly dense sites is to beencourage. There are
plenty of sites within the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential
use. You have the old Amhoist site between Robert and Wabasha, you have
river front sites in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, ,you have the
Phalen Corridor with it's accompanyuig light industrial. These alone offer the
opportunities for 1000's of residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it
worth an investment by the community at large, you can mave on to cleaning
up contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around
a little bet#er, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no
problems with compaYibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be
planned sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good
example.
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The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Councit Policy.
'They have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of
variations of deveioping this site including one not significantly different then
what you are iooking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at
an earlier public hearing to recommend denial.
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� The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with
this policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this
neighborhood. We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way
of complying with the Met Council. Furthermore, the process we have been
subjected to appears to be somewhat willy nilly. The developer has offered many
variations of basically the same problem proposal but changing it enough at the
last minute to make it a difficult moving target. For the last change, offered 5
minutes before the zoning committee meeting, no prepared comments from the
residents were possible. Even complete staff apgroval had to be estimated by the
staff present at the meeting. This did not appear to be the way to decide a
community's future.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
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We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack o€ tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy. However they are willing to state off the record
they do not think so, and in fact think this is a bad example of compiying with
that policy. But there is no departmental procedure for getting that opinion to
you. There is no where an avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a
vacuum from the City on what appears to be the majar impetus for granting
approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answez to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative word because we have an official stance of neutrality and we can't risk
having a Iawyer sue us because our professionai opinion may make it hard for
them to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at
the storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance_
However also note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibility of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of
Parks was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't
make the decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park
staff to ask them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing
them without being requested they run into problems with setting precedence,
etc. and that isn't easy to explain or deal with.
Is staEf really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 24Q0 square foot townhouse
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� with attached garages on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and
no trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of siucco,
and wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed
yards off set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the
policy makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this
direction. We are aware that there is a pluralistic society of tax payers and citizens
out there and that they all have their concerns and needs. But we also feel tough
answers to tough questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we
with our 400 yearsof invesYment in this community, are members of that society
aiso.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks
this is a good idea and whether ar not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter
come over and make a definite statement that ponding sites in residentiai
neighborhoods are needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement
that Ehis is a good example of complying with Met Council Policy.
� As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru� all the various puhlic hearings cited by advocates of
this proposal, both at the District Council and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal piease tell the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Council three times on
this issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multiple variations that were not viewed ahead of time. In each case
the neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and
even citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him
earlier.
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� Along with a lack of response at the formal meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them.
The first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning
committee where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and
negotiate, he no longer was willing to do so.
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However after members of the zoning commission stated they wouid view
favorably the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did
discuss alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the
developer. An agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues,
mainly the alIey access, but nowhere near all issues. Before the neighborhood
coordinator could get all the responses from the rest of the neighborhood, the
developer had called back and said there were problems. It was with this
information we attended the zoning committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the full Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson
of the Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposa] as
having neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to
the fulI commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood
support was the issue of not using the alley outletting to St. Clair Avenue by
future owners or guests ot future owners of the town homes. Public record from
the second of the two dates for the public hearing in front of the zoning
committee show that the Matherns never came to an agreement on any other
issue, that they found problem with the proposed agreement before it could be
presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years ot time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council, pay attention to these findings and find Ehem cause for
denying what many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not
destruetion of our neighborhood.
• EarYier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted bya Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the
documents as 'The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage
Corporations for two lots they purchased and that the debt was a Iittle over half a
million. This occurred in October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot of
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� people. However in 1992 there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or
delayed their creditors, failed to produce adequate financial records, and
knowingly made false oaths. It appears that it was further found that the courts
held that substantial evidence to support an inference of fraudulent intent bythe
Mathems. An appeal court found the Matherns failed to set forth affirmative
admissible evidence to rebut the considerable circumstantial evidence of
fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attorney
chose to not have the fulf material released in a package to planning
commission members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their
decision making capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting
attorney was included. Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this
decision by the City Attorney. As noted abave staff and now commission
members are limited as to what they can say or do.
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However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we tear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond for complying with alt the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to explore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our alternatives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We reatize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
VVhy has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for public record 'they wouId never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition
and in alt past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as
is now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first
alternative is to do just fhaE on the lot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone
else in the neighborhood has.
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I HELEN H CURRIER
I 1 t 16 ST. C�AIR AVENUE
I LOT 9, RUETH'S ADDITION
I DAVID A& HELEN L SCHULTZ
I t 120 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
1 LOT 10, RUETH'S ADDiTION
I JOEL M& CHARLOTTE PATROS
I 1126 ST. CLA1R AVENUE
I LOT 11, RUETH'S ADQITION
I ALICE L PETERSON
I 113� ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 12, RUETH'S ADDITION
I MARGARET H MARKS
I 1134 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
i LOT i3, RUETH'S ADDITION
I SUSAN E WAGNER
1 1138 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 14, RUETH'S ADDITION
f CRAIG & BERYL P BOE
I 1142 ST. Cl1aIR AVENUE
-- I LOT 15, RUETH'S ADDITIOI�I _
I JAMES W& LISA R SWYERS
I 1146 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
29S 5621
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to canstruct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor`s concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received alt the answers.
This is our petition to the City Council of St. Paui from the following residents:
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f LOT 16, RUETI-t'S ADDITIQIV
I MII.KA P& TODD THORESEN
I 1152 ST. CLAtR AYENUE
I LOT 17, RUETH'S ADDITiON
I SETH M ANDERSON
I 1156 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I E 40 FT OF LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
i MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
I 1160 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
f WITH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
I E 40 FT LOT 18, RUETH'S ADDITION
I PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BI.ANK
I 243 S. I.EXIIVGTON PARKWAY
I N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT i,
I RUETH'S ADDITION
I CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
I 251 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
{ EX N 1 O FT, LOT 2, RUETH'S ADD{TION
I KEIYH LANE CURTNER
1 259 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 3, RUETH'S ADDITION
I ALBERTA L 81NKER
I 263 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, RUETH'S ADDITION
I HEI.ENE G OSTROW
I 269 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
1 RUETH'S ADDtTION
I CHRlSTOPHER WALKER
I 273 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 6, RUE7H'S ADDITION
I ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
I 279 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, RUETH'S ADD�TION
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I 283 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 2 FT OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOT 8,
I RUETH'S ADDITION
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Aftemoon. My name is Pat Byrne and I reside at 243 S. Lexington Parkway.
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. However as a courtesy, the
letter was provide to you before hand and Its been indicated that it has been read by
the Council Members. It is important to the signers of that letter that it is read or
listened to as this is their first opportunity to speak to a public representative in this
process. Anyway I'm going to summarize that letter instead of reading it. However I
will read the summary. (I'm not sure if it is the reading or the length that bores
people and puts them to sleep). I'd like to note it is a very concemed group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors that share in this appeal. It consists
of 100% of the people living next to the site and incfudes neighbors on the other
side of Lexington Parkway. If possible I'd like to have those neighbors stand up,
especially those who do not like to speak in public.
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process pertormed by
both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the following list of comments
however you will note that we address both those errors and omissions and repeat a
number of comments we have made in the fast five public meetings held discussing
this issue.
I apologize to the signers if this seems briefer then it should, and I apologize to the
Council if it seems longer then it should.
! Property Acquisition
The site was acquired for very little money back in the 70's. It was deemed
worthless then and has been deemed almost worthfess since then by both ihe
owner and Ramsey County property taxing system. We are not depriving someone
from their livelihood. I'd like to note at this time an error in the letter sent out. It was
not acquired as surplus county property.
! Minimum Requirements
There has never been a discussion of developing the site as a single family
residential site and therefore not requiring anyone to go thru this process.
Ostensibly one of the reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
I'd note that one of the requirements is to minimize alterations of the natural
features and topography. The plan proposes the removal of most if not a�l of the
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trees on this site.
! Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two, not
one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet Everyone involved
has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased traffic on the
alley.
All the residents agree this would not be good to ailow. Accidents have happened
already due to cambination af density of existing traffic and proximity of the alley
(125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surtace 16' wide. This wouid
require removai of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing structures.
! Existing Property Values
As noted those people right next to the proposed 150,000 units feel their 60,000
would not sell due to contrast. However two real estate agents, while acknowledging
that amenities are reduced, property values should not be affected. However they
noted this is only true if done right and if done completely as the plan indicates.
However even with this assurance some are still fearful. This concern was listed in
this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made this
disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is.
! Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viabiiity of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill from
the development.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the very
least an abandoned dump site.
4)The site proposal calis for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane expressway
or into a linear park?
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5) There are fears the developer wili walk if the units don't seil even though he has
assured us they will sell like hotcakes. And then what will the City allow to happen
on the site to salvage it
! Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states AThe design wili be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood@.
We think there is a mistake here. And this is one of the major issues to everyone in
the neighborhood. The only really compatible item will be that they house people.
You go from a 90' by 25' structures with attached garage of 800 sq feet for a total
3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from 600 square feet
to 900 square feet. The attached garage is bigger then some of the houses
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metaf
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple family
housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with yards and
boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the trees
removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own unique
characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a special use permit that compatibility exists.
Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story structures
with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation of the word
compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non existent one. We
believe of the envelope ofi possibie interpretations of the word `compatible' is being
stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
! Safety
Another requirement is that `The use will not be detrimental to the existing character
of the development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger public health,
safety, and general welfare'
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of safety,
either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. This is the second major
issue with the neighborhood.
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Traffic
The pubVic record contains assessments by engineering professionals that the
proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe, and there has been no conflicting
testimony from City Staff. In fact when asked directly if they could say the neighbor's
assessment was incorrect we got a negative answer.
The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance from a
signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight requirements, and that it is as safe
as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came from
staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning commission who
fater expressed unhappiness with the response level, as we have though 1 suspect
for different reasons. He was fooking for a clear statement that is was safe and we
were looking for a clear statement that it was unsafe.
As an aside to the letter I'd like to point out that surviving the review process is not a
statement from City Staff that it is safe. It is a statement from staff that it met
distance from signalized intersection standards and it met line of sight standards.
That is all.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a no left
turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This at best
addresses about 20°l0 ofi the traffic safety issue and was done with no consultation
at sll with traSfic professionals.
Storm Water Manaaement
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. As a Water resource professionaf I have found this to be
intrinsically unsafe in residential areas where chifdren are or in areas where their
existence is a surprise.
Parkina On Lexinqton
One end result of the proposal, whether directly or indirectly, will be a definite
increase in Parking on Lexington Parkway. Parking on Lexington will lead to many
traffic accidents and I will easily state, traffic fatalities. There has been no comment
or review or contribution to discussion on this item from anyone within the City.
In the list of major accident areas throughout the city, Lexington Parkway already
occupies 1t8 of that list.
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! Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a`not in my neighborhood you don'Y issue. Yes, we like the open space.
Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land focked lot
couid not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look out at the
24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the back remain
patatabie. It's kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right to
access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
famity housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We ofEer
alternatives later.
As you review the permitted uses in the zoning law you will note that all non single
family residential uses are all socially benefiting items fike churches, schools,
libraries, transitional housing, battered women and children residences, hospices,
etc. Even Cluster development was there to provide more green space. But as
noted elsewhere that also required compatibility and safety.
We are offering reaf acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
! Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
Our community council is on record as strongly agreeing with the principles
espoused in the Metropolitan councils regional blueprint cal{ing for decrease in
urban sprawl and an increase in redevelopment of St. Paul sites. This community
councii is also on record as opposing this particular development
This proposal is not a good example of complying with that policy. We feel the
pressure is misplaced. We know the Mayor's office wants development of over 600
sites within the City. In off record comments we know that PED has been `nice' to
this developer. There is a push to get this redevelopment process going. But I listed
possible examples in the letter. Those sites �end themselves to a coordinated
planned community with no one to complain. They exist now. Just Iook across the
freeway to the Wiider Site.
I woufd also like to say as a manager of various programs that I feel the best way to
a successful program is early simpfe successes, to make sure in your very first
implementations to have everything well thought out, with special attention, to not
use the easier method o4 seeing what happens and then make corrections as you
get into the bulk of a program. No one in the neigh6orhood or community council is
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arguing with the policy. Just that this is the wrong way to start it, whether in our
neighborhood or anyone eise's neighborhood. With over 400 years of investment in
this City we deserve better then this. The City deserves better then this.
! Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some reai serious concems about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or approach is
there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the City's professional
staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting expectations set by that
policy.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question `is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Why do we get vague answers like it as
safe as a driveway to Maryland Avenue, or safety is a relative thing?
Why can't the city address the Parking issue before someone gets killed. Why can't
Staff suggest a variance before a developer asks for it?
How do we manage to get the statement that a vinyl sided 3000 square foot
structure on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no trees worth
$200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and wood
housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards off set
from public streets and Bivd?
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Ms Becker have staff
come and make a definitive statement on whether or not they thinks this is a good
idea and whether or not they thinks it is safe; whether it be traffic, parking or ponds.
to have Ms. Wheelock or staff make the statement that this is a good example of
compfying with Met Council Policy.
If you do approve this proposal please tefl the residents that you have determined i
to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined that it is compatible
with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no possibility of developing
these sites as zoned; and have determined that the cluster development does
preserve and/or increase green space.
! Community Involvement
The community has met many times with Summit Hill Council, with themselves, with
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pianning commission people. We have been asked to give our opinions on plans
that have been changed on us at the last minute. We have sent {etters with issues.
We have asked quest+ons. One of the main reasons cited by the community
council for not approving the the plan was the developers unwillingness to answer
our questions. However we have met with the developer after he was severely
prompted to by the planning commission. However no agreement was ever reached
with the developer.
A partial agreement was reached about the alley. However this agreement was
blown up to the extent that Mr. Field, Chairperson of the Zoning Committee
appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having neighborhood support.
He repeated this position a number of times to the fufl commission.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to al{ of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with a
total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that you, the
City Council address these concerns find them cause for denying what many in the
area feel will lead to the degradation if not destruction of our neighborhood.
! Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right. In our letter we
addressed this issue. It basicalfy was that, because of public records brought to our
attention we have strong doubts as the suitability and ability of Mendota Homes to
develop this site. This was not due to the bankruptcy issues as much as to the
findings by the court that there was substantial evidence of know+ngly making false
oaths and inference of fraudulent intent. An appeals court also found against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professionai capabilities of a developer are questioned and
evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for calming
those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an altemative as we have other
ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that the
performance bond for complying with all the provisions of the site plan review be
expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is within a 18
month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month time table, and
that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the developer or the
owners. We would like the City to explore this or something similar. Again we are
not offering this as an alternative, just something to be done in case our alternatives
are rejected.
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! Alternatives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to ofEer altematives
or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission members
noted for public record `they would never buy it'? Why has it required so much effort
and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition and in all past
renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted earlier, there has not been a proposal to develop as a single family
housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is to do just that on the lot on
Lexington Par4cway, just like everyone eise in the neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns and
statements. Please slow down, please respond to alt of the concerns, please make
sure you have asked all the questio�s and received all the answers.
Before I summarize I like to show this tape prepared by some residents; it was
prepared for one of the initial discussion with the community council.
Tape
We had proposed another video but I'm going to have to ask you to use your
imagination on this one. The video was going to go back and forth between a
picture of the houses in our community, which you have seen, and a picture of a
suburban cul-de-sac with double and triple townhouses all in uniform color and vinyl
and no or little trees, again which I assume most of you have seen before.
In Summary (of a summary)
We feef a major issues is compatibility with the neighborhood. We feel the envelope
of possible interpretations of that requirement has been extremely enlarge and
furthermore pushed in the wrong direction
We feel a major issue is safety in traffic, in parking, and in ponding requirements.
We also feel that the City has not responded adequately or at all to these concerns,
and that you cannot site passing a review process as an adequate addressing of
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direct concerns, especiaNy if those questions are not part of the review process.
We feel issues of alley use is a major safery issue.
We feel a major issue is that cluster deve{opments should lead to increased green
space.
We feei the issues of property vatue, ofi viability of the project, ofi proper
management are important.
We feel there are more acceptable alternatives, development alternative and they
should be the only ones ailowed.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Aftemoon .
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. I'd like to note that almost ali
of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the five
public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown up for at
least one of the five private meetings he�d in various neighbor's homes or rented
community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of �eighbors and a
very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people living next to the
site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed by
both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the foliowing list of comments
however you wili note that we address both those errors and omissions and repeat a
number of comments we have made in the last five public meetings held discussing
ihis issue.
! Property Acquisition
The property consists of finro lots. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked lot
behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surpius county property
for hundreds of dollars. ft was deemed valuefess or near so then because of iYs
unsuitability for development. We are not saying you can't develop property
because it was deemed valusless at some point in its history. We just want to be
clear that there is no major investment or livelihood that we are threatening with
denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of va{ue of their property. It has
accurately been described as valueless in past, people have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
! Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to develop
the p�oQerty under the existing zoning before issuing a special use permit. The
owner has not done this. There has never been a discussion of developing the site
as zoned. The site is zoned single family residential, and the owner has not tried to
put single family residential there. This can happen with no changes, to the
property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen, with some changes, to
the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this concept later.
Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
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development is to preserve and increase green space, to c�uster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
I Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two, not
one, dead end alleys that furthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone involved
has aiready reached a minimum proposal to not aliow major increased traffic on the
alley.
All the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have happened
already due to combination of densiry of existing traffic and proximity of the alley
(125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surface 16' wide. This wou{d
require removal of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing structures.
! Existing Property Values
Initiafly some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. It was thought
that if you put new housing worth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an existing old
house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would actually devalue the
existing house. However at one of our private meetings we invited a number of real
estate professionals to speak to us. Two of them inform us this wouid not be the
case. However both were very emphatic that amenities to the neighborhood are
indeed fost, and that their statements on property value were very much contingent
on the proposal being completed and completed correct�y.
However even with this assurance some are stiil fearful. This concern was listed in
this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made this
disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is. I'd like io return to this
issue a bit later.
! Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hiil from
the deve{opment. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has indicated
that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a minimum of two
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schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the very
least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this, no soii
borings have been performed. Instead, siab on grade consiruction has been
p�aposed.
4)The site proposal cails for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane expressway
or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears that
if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving a mess
behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more deviation or
variances, because there will be a need to restore the site into something usable. In
1978 Roger Vik proposed apartment buildings with underground garages. Wil1 this
proposal come back?
! Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states AThe design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood@.
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. 7he onfy reafly compatible item wilf be that they
house people.
You go from a 64' or 90+' by 25' structures with attached garages of 800 sq feet for
a total of 2400 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from
600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple family
housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with yards and
boulevards to a cuf-de-sac with afmost no yard space and most of the trees
removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own unique
characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
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$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a specia! use Qermit that compatibility exists.
Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story structures
with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation of the word
compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non existent one. We
believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word `compatible' is being
stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
! Safety
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of safety,
either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the proposal be
safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionals in municipal tra�c and municipal engineering testify
that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments are on
public record. There has been no conflicting testimony from City Staff, engineering
or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance
from a signa4ized intersection, that it meets Iine of sight requirements, and that it is
as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came from
staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning commission.
Later at another public meeting the same planning commission member, when
quizzed on how informative Public Works was, stated his disappointment in them.
While he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion he was disappointed because
staff would not say directly `it is safe'. We, the neighbors, are equally disappointed
because staff would not say directly `it is unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this
issue later.
/�qain, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal engineering
and municipal traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions. One was very
descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills, distracting
characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff and
they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they could or
woufd not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate ane of these safety hazards by requiring a no left
turn during rush hour traffic sign as you Ieave the development. This inadequately
address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the two hills located
right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to look like a driveway,
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not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no corrssponding effort to
regulate left turns into the site from north bound Lexington Parkway, again causing
an unexpected road blockage for north bound traffic and crossing over south bound
traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason to
condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over decades
and correcting them may not be practicai now.
Storm Water Manaqement
There is a requirement that calis for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements that
are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement being
applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of industrial or business
expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsicaily unsafe in residential areas or in park
areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the developer
seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon this particular
safety issue.
Parkinq On Lexinqton
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington Parkway,
on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing private
property, with the end result being that guest of residents on Lexington end up
parking on Lexington, you wifl afmost for sure be causing a fatafity. Residents have
done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight and observing the
number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents occurred almost every
signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be conducted. This issue has
not been addressed at all by staff because it is a secondary effect of the proposal.
But without this proposal it would not happen at all.
! Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a`not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open space.
Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land focked lot
could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look out at the
24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the back remain
palatable. IYs kind of a`no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right to
access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
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family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriatefy has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
altematives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usabie by you the decision makers.
! Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development where
the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged and
development within existing highly dense sites is to be encourage. There are plenty
of sites within the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential use. You
have the old Amhoist site between Robert and Wabasha, you have river front sites
in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, you have the Phalen Corridor with
iYs accompanying light industrial. These alone offer the opportunities for 1000's of
residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it worth an
investment by the community at large, you can move on to cleaning up
contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around a little
better, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no problems
with compatibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be planned
sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good example.
The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Council Policy. They
have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of variations of
developing this site including one not significantly different then what you are
looking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at an earlier public
hearing to recommend denial.
The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with this
policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this neighborhood.
We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way of complying with
the Met Councit. Furthermore, the process we have been subjected to appears to be
somewhat willy nilly. Tne deve►oper has offered many variations of basicafly the
same probfem proposaf but changing it enough at the last minute to make it a
difficult moving target. For the �ast change, offered 5 minutes before the zoning
committee meeting, no prepared comments from the residents were possible. Even
complete staff approval had to be estimated by the staff present at the meeting. This
did not appear to be the way to decide a community's future.
! Tough Questions, Tough Answers
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We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue ofi the Met Councii Policy. No where in staff's answers or approach is
there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the City's professional
staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting expectations set by that
poficy. However they are willing to state off the record they do not think so, and in
fact think this is a bad example of complying with that policy. But there is no
departmental procedure for getting that opinion to you. There is no where an
avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a vacuum from the City on what
appears to be the major impetus for granting approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question `is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative word because we have an official stance of neutrality and we can't risk
having a lawyer sue us because our professional opinion may make it hard for them
to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at the
storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance.
However aiso note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibifity of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of Parks
was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't make the
decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park staff to ask
them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing them without
being requested they run into problems with setting precedence, etc. and that isn't
easy to explain or deal with.
Is staff really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 2400 square foot townhouse
with attached garages on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no
trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and
wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards off
set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the policy
makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this direction. We are
aware that there is a pluralistic society of tax payers and citizens out there and that
they all have their concerns and needs, But we also feel tough answers to tough
questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we with our 400 years of
investment in this community, are members of that society also.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
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engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks this is a
good idea and whetfier or not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter come over
and make a defnite statement that ponding sites in residential neighborhoods are
needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement that this is a good
example of compfying with Met Councif Policy.
As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru all the various public hearings cited by advocates of this
proposal, both at the District Council and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal please tell the residents that you have determined it
to be safe for traffc, parking, children; have indeed determined that it is compatible
with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no possibility of developing
these sites as zoned; and have determined that the cluster development does
preserve and/or increase green space.
! Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Councif three times on this
issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multipte variations that were not viewed ahead ofi time. In each case the
neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and even
citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him earlier.
Along with a lack of response at the format meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them. The
first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning committee
where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and negotiate, he no
longer was willi�g to do so.
However after members of the zoning commission stated they would view favorably
the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did discuss
alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the developer. An
agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues, mainly the alley
access, but nowhere near all issues. Betore the neighborhood coordinator could get
alf the responses firom the rest of the neighborhood, the developer had called back
and said there were problems. It was with this information we attended the zoning
committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the fufl Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson of the
Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having
neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to the full
commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood support was the
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issue of not using the a11ey outletting to St. Clair Avenue by future owners or guests
af future owners of the town homes. Pub{ic record from the second of the two dates
for the public hearing in front of the zoning committee show that the Matherns never
came to an agreement on any other issue, that they found problem with the
proposed agreement before it could be presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with a
total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that you, the
Ciry Council, pay attention to these findings and find them cause for denying what
many in the area feef will lead to the degradation 'rf not destruction of our
neighborhood.
! Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viabi�ity and about property values and the
rea� estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted by a Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the documents
as `The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage Corporations for two
lots they purchased and that the debt was a IittVe over half a milfion. This occurred in
October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot o4 people. However in 1992
there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or delayed their creditors, failed
to produce adequate financial records, and knowingly made false oaths. It appears
that it was further found that the courts held that substantia� evidence to support an
inference of fraudulent intent by the Matherns. An appeal court found the Matherns
failed to set forth affirmative admissible evidence to rebut the considerable
circumstantial evidence of fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attomey
chose to not have the full material released in a package to planning commission
members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their decision making
capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting attorney was included.
Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this decision by the City Attorney.
As noted above staff and now commission members are Iimited as to what they can
say or do.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned and
evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for calming
those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we have other
ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that the
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perFormance bond for compiying with all the provisions of the site plan review be
expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is within a 18
month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month time table, and
that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by eitfier the developer or the
owners. We would like the City to explore this or something similar. Again we are
not offering this as an altemative, just something to be done in case our alternatives
are rejected.
! Altematives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer alternatives
or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission members
noted for public record `they wauld never buy iY? Why has it required so much effort
and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition and in all past
renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as is
now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is
to do just that on the lot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone else in the
neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narrow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns and
statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please make
sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
This is our petition to the C'ity Council of St. Paul from the following residents:
HELEN H CURRIER
1116 ST. CLAIR Avenue
LOT 9, Rueth's Addition
DAVID A& HELEN L SCHULTZ
1120 ST. CLAIR Avenue
LOT 10, Rueth's Addition
� JOEL M& Charlotte PATROS
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� 1126 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 11, Rueth's Addition
� A�ICE L PETERSON
� 1130 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 12, Rueth's Addition
� MARGARET H MARKS
� 1134 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 13, Rueth's Addition
� SUSAN E WAGNER
� 1138 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 14, Rueth's Addition
� Craig & BERYL P BOE
� 1142 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 15, Rueth's Addition
� JAMES W& LISA R SWYERS
� 1146 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 16, Rueth's Addition
� Milka P& Todd Thoresen
� 1152 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� LOT 17, Rueth's Addition
� SETH M ANDERSON
� 1156 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� E 40 FT OF LOT 18, Rueth's Addition
� MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
� 1160 ST. CLAIR Avenue
� WfTH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
� E 40 FT LOT 18, Rueth's Addition
� PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BLANK
� 243 S. Lexington Parkway
j N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT 1,
� Rueth's Addition
� CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
� 251 S. Lexington Parkway
� EX N 1 O FT, LOT 2, Rueth's Addition
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KEITH LANE CURTNER
259 S. Lexington Parkway
LOT 3, Rueth's Addition
� ALBERTA L BINKER
� 263 S. Lexington Parkway
� EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, Rueth's Addition
� HELENE G OSTROW
� 269 S. Lexington Parkway
� S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
� Rueth's Addition
� Christopher WALKER
� 273 S. Lexington Parkway
� LOT 6, Rueth's Addition
ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
279 S. Lexington Parkway
EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, Rueth's Addition
BEVERLY Y DUNBAR
283 S. Lexington Parkway
S 2 FT OF LOT 7 AND ALL OF LOT 8,
Rueth's Addition
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council ot St. Paul,
Good Afternoon .
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I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. I'd like to note that almost
all of these neighbors have shown up for at least one and sometimes all of the
five public meetings already scheduled to discuss this issue. Most have shown
up for at least one of the five private meetings held in various neighbor's homes
or rented community center meeting rooms. It is a very concerned group of
neighbors and a very united group of neighbors. It consists of 100% of the people
living next to the site and includes neighbors on the other side of Lexington
Parkway
We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Planning Commission Members. In the following list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
• Property Acquisition
The property consists of two lots. One on Lexington Parkway and one landlocked
lot behind everyone's houses. It was acquired by Roger Vik as surplus county
property for hundreds of dollars. It was deemed valueless or near so then
because of it's unsuitability for development. We are not saying you cari t
develop property because it was deemed valueless at some point in its history.
We just want to be clear that there is no major investment or livelihood that we
are threatening with denial of this development.
This is not a situation of depriving a property owner of value of their property. It
has accurately been described as valueless in past, people have moved into the
neighborhood aware that it was valueless, it was acquired under that status, and
continues to exist under that status unless you decide to award it a variance thru
this special use permit.
• Minimum Requirements
It is our understanding that the owner needs to demonstrate an inability to
develop the property under the existing zoning before issuing a special use
permit. The owner has not done this. There has never been a discussion of
developing the site as zoned. The site is zoned single family residential, and the
owner has not tried to put single family residential there. This can happen with
no changes, to the property fronting Lexington Parkway now, and can happen,
with some changes, to the second, bigger lot. We would like to explore this
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concept Iater.
Ostensibly one of the other reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase gxeen space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
• Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for most of residents and others. It is two,
not one, dead end alleys that #urthermore combine into one outlet. Everyone
involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
All the residents agree this would be insanity to allow. Accidents have
happened already due to combination of density of e�cisting traffic and proximity
of the alley (125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
Any increased use of the alley would require a paved surface 16' wide. This
would require removal of the trees in the alley and supporting of existing
structures.
• Existing Property Values
Initially some of the neighbors thought property values would suffer. It was
thought that it you put new housing worth $150,000 to $200,000 right next to an
existing old house worth $60,000 that the contrast between the two would
actually devalue the existing house. However at one of our private meetings we
invited a number of real estate professionals to speak to us. Two of them inform
us this would not be the case. However both were very emphatic that amenities
to the neighborhood are indeed tost, and that their statements on pmperty value
were very much contingent on the proposal being completed and completed
correctly.
However even with this assurance some are still fearfizL This concern was listed
in this leiter for this reason. And to lead into 4he next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is. I'd like to return
to this issue a bit later.
• Viability of the Pmposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
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developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued by the railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development. The owner of the furthest house away on this block has
indicated that you feel the trains far in advance of hearing them. There are a
minimum of two schedule trains everyday right now plus commercial routings.
3) There has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soils or at the
very least an abandoned dump site. However after months of questioning this,
no soil borings have been performed. Instead, slab on grade construction has
been proposed.
4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) Because of the limited investment in the property acquisition there are fears
that if the development does not produce, the developer will walk away leaving
a mess behind. With the resulting mess, the City will then allow even more
deviation or variances, because there will be a need to restore the site into
something usable. In 1978 Roger Vik proposed apartment buildings with
underground garages. Will this proposal come back?
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
The comment is made that overall the proposed design is compatible with
surrounding neighborhood which consists of a mixture of 1, 1.5 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs.
We think there is a mistake here. The only really compatibie item will be that
they house people.
You go from a 64' or 90+' by25'structures with attached garages of 800 sqfeet for
a total of 2400 to 3600 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging
from 600 square feet to 900 square feet.
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
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The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of tfie
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house tarm.
Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,OOQ to
$I00,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
Again the requirement is for granting a special use permit that compatibility
exists. Stating that compatibility exists solely because there are 1 and 2 story
structures with gabled and hipped roofs is an extreme, very liberal, interpretation
of the word compatible. Almost to the point of making that requirement a non
existent one. We believe of the envelope of possible interpretations of the word
'compatible' is being stretched, and stretched in the wrong direction.
• Safety
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at all. Having the
proposal be safe is another requirement in granting variances thru a special use
permit.
Traffic
We have had two professionats in municipal traffic and municipal engineering
testify that the proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe. Their comments
are on public recard. 'There has been no conflicting testimony from City Staff,
engineering or otherwise. The best response we have is that it meets standards as
to distance from a signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight
requirements, and that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it is as safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue, came
from staff in response to a direct question by a member of the planning
commission. Later at another public meeting the same planning commission
member, when quizzed on how informative Public Works was, statea his
disappointment in them. Whi1e he did not elaborate as to why, it is our opinion
he was disappointed because staff would not say directly 'it is safe'. We, the
neighbors, are equally disappointed because staff would not say directly `it is
unsafe'. We'd like to come back to this issue later.
Again, there has been comments from two professionals on municipal
engineering and municipai traffic that it is unsafe in their professional opinions.
One was very descriptive as to why, citing speed at the bottom of two hills,
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distracting characteristics, camouflage appearances, ADT, distance of alleys from
intersections, etc. When a copy of that was submitted to the Public Works staff
and they were questioned as to whether they would say he was wrong, they
could or would not do so.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a n o
left turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development_ This
inadequately address the issue as speed is still the greatest on the bottom of the
Ywo hills located right at the point. Also the entrance and exit are designed to
look like a driveway, not a street that requires more attention. And, there was no
corresponding effort to regulate left turns into the site from north bound
Lexington Parkway, again causing an unexpected road blockage for north bound
traffic and crossing over south bound traffic.
The existence of other, possibly more unsafe situations, does not create a reason
to condone this type of planning now. Those other situations evolved over
decades and correcting them may not be practical now.
Storm Water Management
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
proposed developed site. This is due to storm water management requirements
that are part of city ordinances. In most cases you will find this requirement
being applied or incorporated into a parking lot or on the site of industrial or
business expansions.
Staff has found these ponds to be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas or in
park areas due to the presence of children. However it is the policy to let the
developer seek a variance rather then to selectively urge a variance based upon
this particular safety issue.
Parking On Lexin�ton
If a proposal takes away guest parking for existing residents on Lexington
Parkway, on any type of property, whether it be the existing alley or the existing
private property, with the end result being that guest of residents on Lexington
end up parking on Lexington, you will almost for sure be causing a fatality.
Residents have done studies, parking cars on Lexington during broad daylight
and observing the number of near accidents that occur. The near accidents
occurred almost every signal light cycle. Night time experiments could not be
conducted. This issue has not been addressed at ail by staff because it is a
secondary effect of the proposal. But without this proposal it would not happen
at all.
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• Not In My Neighborhood!
This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don t' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a'no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn't a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. ALso this is not depriving the owner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
We are offering real acceptable reasons tor denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers.
• Metropolitan Council Policy On Urban Development
We are all aware of the Metropolitan Council Policy on Urban Development
where the stopping of urban sprawl out further and further is to be discouraged
and development within existing highly dense sites is to be encourage. There are
plenty of sites wifhin the City of Saint Paul that can be developed for residential
use. You have the old Amhoist site befween Robert and Wabasha, you have
river front sites in conjunction with Shepard Road Development, you have the
Phalen Corridor with it's accompanying Iight industrial. These alone offer the
opportunities for 1000's of residential units.
And if you want to continue coping with this particular policy and think it
worth an investment by the community at large, you can move on to cleaning
up contaminated sites suitable for light industrial and moving the pieces around
a little better, again opening up sites for thousands of residential units.
'They will be coordinated with the community and there will be little or no
problems with compatibility, safety, access, property values. These sites will be
planned sites. They exist now. Wilder Homes just across the Freeway is a good
example.
The Summit Hill Zoning Committee strongly endorse the Met Council Policy.
They have also turned down on three different public meeting a number of
variations of developing this site including one not significantly different then
what you are looking at now. As an aside the executive director also appeared at
an earlier public hearing to recommend denial.
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The process of developing a coordinated or planned community to help with
this policy is a much better process then the one being suggested for this
neighborhood. We don't view filling in every little empty space as the right way
of complying with the Met Council. Furthermore, the process we have been
subjected to appears to be somewhat willy nilly. The developer has offered many
variations of basically fihe same problem proposal but changing it enough at the
last minute to make it a difficult moving target. For the last change, offered 5
minutes before the zoning committee meeting, no prepared comments from the
residents were possibie. Even complete staff approval had to be estimated by the
staff present at the meeting. This did not appear to be the way to decide a
community's future.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some real serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good exampie of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy. However they are willing to state off the record
they do not think so, and in fact think this is a bad example of complying with
that policy. But there is no departmental procedure for getting that opinion to
you. There is no where an avenue for expressing that opinion to you. There is a
vacuum from the City on what appears to be the majar impetus for granting
approval.
And going back to the safety issue. Why cari t a citizen get an answer to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Do we get the response that safety is a
relative ward because we have an official stance of neutrality and we cari t risk
having a lawyer sue us because our professional opinion may make it hard for
them to engage in a business?
Staff however is sometimes limited in how they can present an issue. Look at
the storm water management requirements. Those are mandated by ordinance.
However also note that variances exist for them. But it is the responsibility of the
developer to request that variance. There was a situation where Division of
Parks was going to put a pond next to the children's playground. Staff couldn't
make the decision to grant a variance. They had to call Parks staff and ask Park
staff to ask them for a variance which was then granted. If staff starts issuing
them without being requested they run into problems with setting precedence,
etc. and that isn t easy to explain or dea] with.
Is staff really supposed to answer that a vinyl sided 2406 square foot townhouse
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with attached garages on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and
no trees worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco,
and wood housing with 600 to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed
yards off set from public streets and Blvd? The easy answer appears to be yes.
Is staff to be blamed for this lack of hard answers? We don't think so. It is the
policy makers in the departments that have gradually edged toward this
direction. We are aware that there is a pluralisiic society of tax payers and citizens
out there and Ehat Ehey all have their concerns and needs. But we also feel tough
answers to tough questions is a route that leads to better conditions. And we
with our 400 years of investment in this community, are members of that society
aIso.
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
dne suggestion we would Iike to have you entertain is to have Mr. Shetka, traffic
engineer, come and make a definitive statement on whether or not he thinks
this is a good idea and whether or not he thinks it is safe; to have Mr. Puchreiter
come over and make a definite statement that ponding sites in residential
neighborhoods are needed and safe; to have Ms. Wheelock make the statement
that this is a good example of complying with Met Council Policy.
As an aside, this issue of complying with Met Council Policy is the only one the
residents have heard thru all the various public hearings cited by advocates of
this proposal, both at the District Councii and at the Planning Commission.
If you do approve this proposal please te11 the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• Community Involvement
The community has met with the Summit Hill District Council three times on
this issue, each time to address a variation of the proposal, and as noted earlier,
sometimes multiple variations that were not viewed ahead of time. In each case
the neighborhood was united in it's opposition to the proposals.
In each case the Summit Hill District Council agreed with the community, and
even citing the developers inability to address the issues presented to him
earlier�
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Along with a lack of response at the formal meetings, the developer made no
sincere effort to communicate with the neighborhood and negotiate with them.
The first we heard about his willingness to do so was in front of the zoning
committee where, while stating he had been willing all along to discuss and
negotiate, he no longer was willing to do so.
However after members of the zoning commission stated they would view
favorably the attempt at communication, neighborhood members did gather, did
discuss alternatives amongst themselves, and did set up a meeting with the
developer. An agreement was reached with those who attended on some issues,
mainly the alley access, but nowhere near all issues. Before the neighborhood
coordinator could get all the responses from the rest of the neighborhood, the
developer had called back and said there were problems. It was with this
information we attended the zoning committee's second meeting.
When the issue went to the full Planning Commission, Mr. Field, Chairperson
of the Zoning Committee appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as
having neighborhood support. He repeated this position a number of times to
the full commission. The only part of the proposal that had neighborhood
support was the issue of not using the alley outletting to St. Clair Avenue by
future owners or guests of future owners of the town homes. Public record from
the second of the two dates for the public hearing in front of the zoning
committee show that the Matherns never came to an agreement on any other
issue, that they found problem with the proposed agreement before it could be
presented to the remaining neighbor.
The final result of all this is that we are united yet in our opposition to all of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council, pay attention to these findings and find them cause for
denying what many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not
destruction of our neighborhood.
• Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Eariier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right.
As part of the information submitted during this whole process there was some
information submitted by a Timothy Sullivan, an attorney. Upon review of that
information it appears that John and Sandra Mathern, referred to in the
documents as 'The Matherns' were found to be in debt to United Mortgage
Corporations for two lots they purchased and that the debtwas a little over half a
million. This occurred in October of 1989. Not so bad and it happens to a lot of
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people. However in 1992 there was a claim that the Matherns had hindered or
delayed their creditors, failed to produce adequate financial records, and
knowingly made false oaths. It appears that it was further found that the courts
held that substantial evidence to support an inference of fraudu�ent intent bythe
Matherns. An appeal court found the Matherns failed to set forth affirmative
admissible evidence to rebnt the considerable circumstantial evidence of
fraudulent intent and ruled against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue. We are also aware that the City Attorney
chose to not have the full material released in a package to planning
commission members, deeming it not relevant or not to be considered in their
decision making capacity. Instead just the cover letter from the presenting
attorney was included. Most of the neighbors do not have a problem with this
decision by the City Attorney. As noted above staff and now commission
members are lunited as to what they can say or do.
However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond for complying with all the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished by either the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to explore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our altematives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We realize we can't stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
Why has there been so much problem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for pubIic record 'they would never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Because in its current rendition
and in all past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted in the first paragraph, there has not been a proposal to develop just as
is now allowed - single family housing on an accessible street. Our first
alternative is to do just that on the tot on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone
else in the neighborhood has.
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Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road_
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narzow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the public hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
This is our petition to the City Council of St. Paul from the following residents:
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I 1120 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 10, RUETH'S ADDITION
I HELEN H CURRIER
, I 1116 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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I JOEL M& CHARLOTTE PATROS
I 1126 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 11, RUETH'S ADDITION
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I ALICE L PETERSON
I 1130 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I LOT 12, RUETH'S ADDITION
I MARGARET H MARKS
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I SETH M ANDERSON
I 1156 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
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I MICHAEL R WIGFIELD
�I 1160 ST. CLAIR AVENUE
I WITH AND SUBJ TO ESMTS AND EX THE
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PAT BYRNE & RACHEL BLANK
243 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
N 1 O FT OF LOT 2 AND ALL OF LOT 1,
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I CHARLES W& KATHLEEN MARKS
I 251 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
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I 259 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 3, RUETN'S ADDITION
I ALBERTA L 81NKER
I 263 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
EX S 7 FT, LOT 4, RUETH'S ADDITION
1 HELENE G OSTROW
I 269 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I S 7 FT OF LOT 4 AND ALL OF LOT 5,
i RUETH'S ADDITION
z� �Z/��v, I CHRISTOPHER WALKER
f 273 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I LOT 6, RUETH'S ADDITION
I ROBERT E& KATHLEEN A HENDRICKSON
� 279 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
I EX S 2 FT, LOT 7, RUETH'S ADD�TION
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I 283 S. LEXINGTON PARKWAY
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
The above signed residents.
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To the Councilmembers of the City Council of St. Paul,
Good Afternoon. My name is Pat Byrne and I reside at 243 S. Lexington Parkway.
I'm here to read a letter signed by all of my neighbors. However as a courtesy, /�
the letter was provide to yot�ef re hand and Its been indicated that it has been d�ii,/�, JYL
read by the Council Members.�mportant to the signers of that letter that it is
read or listened to as this is their first opportunity to speak to a public
�.�C representative in this process. Anyway I'm going to summarize that letter
t���"' instead of reading it. However I will read the summary. (I'm not sure if it is the
�4 ll reading or the length that bores people and puts them to sleep). I'd like to note it
is a very concerned group of neighbors and a very united group of neighbors that
��,� / share in this appeal. It consists of 100°lo of the people living ext to the site and
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We think there were a number of errors and omissions in the process performed
by both Staff and Pianning Commission Members. In the following list of
comments however you will note that we address both those errors and
omissions and repeat a number of comments we have made in the last five
public meetings held discussing this issue.
I apologize to the signers if this seems briefer then it should, and I apologize to
the Council if it seems longer then it should.
• Property Acquisition,
The site was acquired for very little money back in the 70's. It was deemed
worthless then and has been deemed almost worthless since then by both the
owner and Ramsey County property taxing system. ' g
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sent out. It was not acquired as surplus county property.
• Minirnum Requirements
There has never been a discussion of developing the site as a single family
residential site and therefore not requiring anyone to go thru this process.
Ostensibly one of the reasons for having a special use permit for a cluster
development is to preserve and increase green space, to cluster the structures in
such a manner as to increase green space within the City. As you view the
proposal, note this does not happen.
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I'd note that one of the requirements is to minimize alterations of the natural
features and topography. The plan proposes the removai of most if not all of the
trees on this site.
• Alley Use
The alley use has been a major item for mos of residents �. It is two,
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involved has already reached a minimum proposal to not allow major increased
traffic on the alley.
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happened already due to combination of density of existing traffic and proximity
of the alley (125') to an intersection that has 24,000 ADT.
As noted those people right next to the proposed 150,OQQ units feel their 6�,�0�
would not sell due to contrast. However two real estate agents, while
acknowledging that amenities are reduced, property values should not be
affected. However they noted this is only true if done right and if done
compietely as the plan indicates.
However even with this assurance some are still fearful. This concern was listed
in this letter for this reason. And to lead into the next matter. One agent made
this disclaimer only when made aware of who the developer is.
• Viability of the Proposal
There are strong doubts as to viability of this project.
1) The developer has already gone thru bankruptcy procedures in past
developments.
2) The developer has indicated he will ignore the warnings issued bythe railroad
company as to the vibrations generated by the tracks at the bottom of the hill
from the development.
3) T`here has been indications of the possibility of contaminated soiis or at the
very least an abandoned dump site.
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• Existing Property Values
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4)The site proposal calls for removal of the hundreds of trees on site, leaving a
barren exposure to both the railroad and the freeway. And the future of that
particular freeway is uncertain; will it be turned into renovated four lane
expressway or into a linear park?
5) There are fears the developer will walk if the units don't sell even though he
has assured us they will sell like hotcakes. And then what will the City allow to
happen on the site to salvage it
• Compatibility
The requirements include, and the staff report states "The design will be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood".
We think there is a mistake here. And this is one of the major issues to
everyone in the neighborhood. The only really compatible item will be that they
house people.
You go from a 90' by 25' structures with attached garage of 800 sq feet for a total
3�0 square feet structures to the existing structures ranging from 600 square feet
to 900 square feet. The attached garage is bigger then some of the houses
You go from a mixture over 80 years of construction of stucco, clapboard, metal
sliding, wood to one of uniform vinyl siding.
The obvious incompatibility is you go from single family housing to multiple
family housing. You go from fenced or treed lots fronting a public street with
yards and boulevards to a cul-de-sac with almost no yard space and most of the
trees removed. You go from a developed St. Paul Community with its own
unique characterizations to a Woodbury house farm.
• Safety
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Another obvious incompatibility is that you go from homes valued at $25,000 to
$100,00 and now add homes valued at $140,000 to $200,000
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Another requirement is that 'The use will not be detrimentai to the existing
character of the development in the immediate neighborhood or endanger
public health, safety, and general welfare'
We feel staff and Planning Commission inadequately addressed the issue of
safety, either thru a mistaken assessment or no assessment at ail. This is the
second major issue with the neighborhood.
Traffic
The public record contains assessments by engineering professionals that the
proposed outlet to Lexington Parkway is unsafe, and there has been no
conflicting testimony from City Staff. In fact when asked directly if they could say
the neighbor's assessment was incorrect we got a negative answer.
The best response we have is that it meets standards as to distance from a
signalized intersection, that it meets line of sight requirements, and that it is as
safe as a driveway on Maryland Avenue.
The last statement, that it i�, a�s safe
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tks an aside to the letter I'd like to point out t�at surviving the review process is
not a statement from City Staff that�� is safe. It is a statement from staff that it
met distance from signalized intersection standards and it met line of sight
standards. That is all.
There was an attempt to attenuate one of these safety hazards by requiring a no
left turn during rush hour traffic sign as you leave the development. This�a�t
addresses about 20°fo of the traffic safety issue and was done with no consuitation
at all with traffic professionals.
Storm Water Mana ement
There is a requirement that calls for the inclusion of a detention pond on the
p\�proposed developed site. As a Water resource professional I have found this to
��' be intrinsically unsafe in residential areas where children are�or in axeas where
��� t�gi� existence is a surprise.
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Parking On Lexi�ton
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One end result of the proposal, whether directiy or indirectly, will be a definite
increase in Parking on Lexington Parkway. Parking on Lexington will lead to
� j many traffic accidents and I will easily state, traffic fatalities. There has been no
� comment or review or contribution to discussion on this item from anyone
within the City.
In the list of major accident areas throughout the city, Lexington Parkway
already occupies 1/8 of that list.
• Not Itt My Neighborhood!
This is not a'not in my neighborhood you don't' issue. Yes, we like the open
space. Yes, when we moved into this neighborhood we were assured this land
locked lot could not be developed and that it had no value. And yes as we look
out at the 24,000 ADT in the front of our houses we would prefer to have the
back remain palatable. It's kind of a'no brainer' that we do not want this here.
But this isn t a half way house moving in, or a library, and there are no social
movements being hindered here. Also this is not depriving the owner the right
to access the lots on Lexington Parkway or development of his property as single
family housing. This does seek to deny development of a land locked lot that
appropriately has had no value or development over the decades. We offer
alternatives later.
As you review the permitted uses in the zoning law you will note that all non
�,, � single family residential uses are ail socially benefiting items like churches,
�`• i, schools, libraries, transitional housing, battered women and children residences,
�v �� hospices, etc. Even Cluster development was there to provide more green space.
�� But as noted elsewhere that also required compatibility and safety.
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We are offering real acceptable reasons for denying this proposal and they are
usable by you the decision makers_
Council Policy On Urban Development
Our community council is on record as strongly agreeing with the principles
espoused in the Metropolitan councils regional blueprint calling for decrease in
urban sprawl and an increase in redevelopment of St. Paul sites. This
community council is also on recard as opposing this particular development
This proposal is not a good example of complying with that policy. We feel the
pressure is mispiaced. We know the Mayor's office wants development of over
600 sites within the City. In off record comments we know that PED has been
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'nice' to this developer. There is a push to get this redevelopment process going.
,�ut I listed possible examples in the letter. Those sites lend themselves to a
/ coordinated planned community with no one to complain. They exist now. Just
`� look across the freeway to the Wilder Site.
/ I would also like to say as a manager of various programs that I feel the best way
to a successful program is early simple successes, to make sure in your very first
implementations to have everything weil thought out, with special attention, to
� not use the easier method of seeing what happens and then make corrections as
� you get into the bulk of a program. No one in the neighborhood or community
� council is arguing with the policy. Just that this is the wrong way to start it,
whether in our neighborhood or anyone else's neighborhood. With over 400
years of investment in this City we deserve better then this. The City deserves
better then this.
• Tough Questions, Tough Answers
We have some reai serious concerns about this process. There doesn't seem to be
a lack of tough questions but there does seen to be a lack of tough answers.
Take the issue of the Met Council Policy. No where in staff's answers or
approach is there a discussion or a recommendation as to whether or not the
City's professional staff feels this is a good example of complying or meeting
expectations set by that policy.
And going back to the safety issue. Why can't a citizen get an answer to the
question 'is this a good idea? Is this safe?' Why do we get vague answers like it as
safe as a driveway to Maryland Avenue, or safety is a relative thing?
Why cari t the city address the Parking issue before someone gets killed. Why
cari t Staff suggest a variance before a developer asks for it?
How do we manage to get the statement thaX a vinyl sided 3000 square foot
structure on a cul-de-sac surrounded by bituminous surfacing and no trees
worth $200,000 is compatible with an 85 year old neighborhood of stucco, and
wood housing with 60� to 900 square feet foot prints, treed and shrubbed yards
off set from public streets and Bivd?
We have indicated our differences with staff statements; and where and why we
think errors or omissions were made.
One suggestion we would like to have you entertain is to have Ms Becker have
staff come and make a definitive statement on whether or not they thinks this is
a good idea and whether or not they thinks it is safe; whether it be traffic, parking
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or ponds. to have Ms. Wheelock or staff make the statement that this is a good
example of complying with Met Council Policy.
If you do approve this proposal please tell the residents that you have
determined it to be safe for traffic, parking, children; have indeed determined
that it is compatible with their neighborhood; have determined that there is no
possibility of developing these sites as zoned; and have determined that the
� cluster development does preserve and/or increase green space.
• _Community Involvement
The com unity has met many times with Summit Hill Council, with
� themselves, with planning commission people. We have been asked to give our
� opinions on plans that have been changed on us at the last minute. We have
sent letters with issues. We have asked questions. One of the main reasons
cited by the community council for not approving the the plan was the
� developers unwillingness to answer our questions. However we have met with
the developer after he was severely prompted to by the planning commission.
� However no agreement was ever reached with the developer.
A partial agreement was reached about the alley. However this agreement was
� blown up to the extent that Mr. Field, Chairperson of the Zoning Committee
appeared to inaccurately portrayed the proposal as having neighborhood
support. He repeated this position a number of times to the full commission.
i result of ali this is that we are united yet in our opposition to ail of the
proposals we have seen presented so far. The existing residents of this area with
a total of 400 years of time invested in their neighborhood are requesting that
you, the City Council address these concerns find them cause far denying what
many in the area feel will lead to the degradation if not destruction of our
neighborhood.
• Earlier Comments on Viability and Fears
Earlier we mentioned fears about the viability and about property values and the
real estate agents comments that the project needs to be done right. In our letter
we addressed this issue. It basically was that, because of public records brought to
our attention we have strong doubts as the suitability and ability of Mendota
Homes to develop this site. This was not due to the bankruptcy issues as much as
to the findings by the court that there was substantial evidence of knowingly
making false oaths and inference of fraudulent intent. An appeals court also
found against them.
We are aware this is a sensitive issue.
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We had proposed another video but I'm going to have to ask you to use your
imagination on this one. The video was going to go back and forth between a
picture of the houses in our community, which you have seen, and a pictuxe of a
suburban cul-de-sac with double and triple townhouses all in uniform color and
vinyl and no or little trees, again which I assume most of you have seen before.
In Summary (of a summary)
We feel a major issues is compatibility with the neighborhood. We feel the
envelope of possible interpretations of that requirement has been extremely
enlarge and furthermore pushed in the wrong direction
We feel a major issue is safety in traffic, in parking, and in ponding
requirements. We also feel that the City has not responded adequately or at all to
these concerns, and that you cannot site passing a review process as an adequate
addressing of direct concerns, especially if those questions are not part of the
review process.
We feel issues of alley use is a major safety issue.
We feel a major issue is that cluster developments should lead to increased
green space.
We feel the issues of property value, of viability of the project, of proper
management are important.
We feel there are more acceptable alternatives, development alternative� and
they should be the only ones allowed. '
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However it is a significant contributor to the reasons we fear this proposal. And
because of this we feel it may be inappropriate to simply ignore it. In other
communities when the professional capabilities of a developer are questioned
and evidence is provided to support that questioning, provisions do exist for
calming those questions. While we are not suggesting it as an alternative as we
have other ideas, we are suggesting that if the proposal does get approved that
the performance bond fox complying with all the provisions of the site plan
review be expanded to require completion of the whatever the final proposal is
within a 18 month time period, that all grading be completed in the 18 month
time table, and that maintenance of the entire site be accomplished byeither the
developer or the owners. We would like the City to expiore this or something
similar. Again we are not offering this as an alternative, just something to be
done in case our alternatives are rejected.
• Alternatives
We realize we can`t stop at just say no and that there is a need to offer
alternatives or compromises.
Why has there been so much probiem with the existing proposal? Why the
repetitive redoing and reshaping of it? Why have Planning Commission
members noted for public recard 'they would never buy it'? Why has it required
so much effort and supposed creative thinking? Secause in its current rendition
and in all past renditions it is simply a bad idea. It carries too much baggage.
As noted earlier, there has not been a proposal to develop as a single £amily
housing on an accessible street. Our first alternative is to do just that on the lot
on Lexington Parkway, just like everyone else in the neighborhood has.
Our second alternative would be to have a Public Road built onto the site, not a
driveway. And then to construct single family housing fronting that public road.
While this does not satisfy all of the complaints it does deal with some.
The approach so far as been too narxow and too focused on us versus them.
Movement has gone on with too little input during the pubiic hearing phase (for
whatever reason) until now and too little response to the neighbor's concerns
and statements. Please slow down, please respond to all of the concerns, please
make sure you have asked all the questions and received all the answers.
Before I summarize I like to show this tape prepared by some residents; it was
prepared for one of the initial discussion with the community council.
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TIME OF HEARING
PLACE OF HEARING
PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
SAINT PAUL CTTY COUNCIL
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Properry Owners within 350 feet;
I Representatives of Planning District 16
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BYRNE, PATRICK
Appeal the Planning Commission approval of a 10 unit cluster development.
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City Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City Hall-Court House
15 West Keliogg Blvd; Saint Paul, MN 55102
HOW TO PARTICIPATE 1. You may attend hearing and testify.
2. You may send a letter before the hearing to the Zoning Section of the
Planning and Economic Development Department, 25 West Fourth St,
1100 City Ha11 Annex, Saint Paul, MN 55102. .
3.. Participation is not required. This is your notice of public hearine.
ANY QUESTIONS
Call Kady Dadlez of the Zoning o�ce at 266-6582 or your District Council
Representative at 222-1222 with the following information:
Zoning File Nutnber 97-313
Zoning File Name MENDOTA HOMES APPEAL
Mailing Date 12/10/97
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David & Helene Schultz
1120 Saint Clau Avenue
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55105
612-292-1096
January 13, 1998
St. Paul City Council
c/o Zoning Section of PED
25 West Fourth Street
1100 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear City Council Members:
Re: Mendota Homes Appeal
Zoning File Number 97-313
We are adjoining property owners to the proposed Mendota Homes project and we are sending this letter to
oppose the special use permit that was granted by the Planning Commission. We hope that this letter will
be given all the weight that oral testimony would haue received.
We oppose the granting of the special use permit for all of the reasons stated in the letter endorsed by all of
the adjoining property owners in the area. However, we do wish to reinforce several points.
We believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing Yo give sufficient attention to both the traffic safety
problems and the incompatibility of the proposed project with the current architecture and land use of the
neighborhood. First, placing additional traffic on either Lexington or Saint Clair Avenues will be a safety
hazard that should be considered. Second, the proposed development, with large two and three unit
structures, will be significantly larger than any of the eusting units in the area. Hence, the new Mendota
Homes units will dwarf and hover over the e�sting houses. Overall, it is our believe that the Planning
Commission failed to give due regard to these factors.
Second, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing to permit certain testimony to be placed
on the record for their consideration. By that, neighbors repeatedly sought to enter into the record their
concern about the soil conditions on the land upon which this proposed development might be erected. The
neighbors have legitimate concerns that because of the soil conditions construction of buildings on this
property would perhaps endanger the public health or othenvise damage or be detrimental to neighboring
property. In effect, because the Commission refused to allow testimony on this subject the Commission
abused its discretion and failed to consider facts that may be critical to a fu11 and proper evaluation of the
application of a special use permit for this project.
Third, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in failing to consider all of the information submitted
to them as a matter of public record. By that, Tim Sullivan had submitted court information to Beth Bartz
regarding John Mathern's financial difficulties with other similar housing projects. Ms. Bartz failed to pass
along to the Planning Commission this information. We believe that the Planning Commission should have
reviewed this information and made its own decision to its relevancy. The failure to consider information
submitted for public record, as well as the failure to pass this information along to the Planning Commission
is an error of law. In sum, we hope that City Council considers this information when it reviews the Mendota
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Homes project since it may speak to the capacity of the developer to execute and complete this project.
Fourth, we believe that the Planning Commission erred in giving weight to facts and testimony that are not
relevant to the statutory requirements specific to the granting of a special use permit. By that, during the
public hearing Susan Kimberly testified to a Metropolitan Council determination that St. Paul needed to
intensify its Iand use and increase the number of housing units in the city over the ne� iwenry years.
Similarly, in its deliberations, the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission referred to her testimony_
While Ms. Kimberl�s testimony may have some merit, neither the Met Council's report nor overall housing
needs in the city are relevant to the granting of a special use permit for this property. Specifically, no where
in §64.300 of the St. Paul I,egislative Code does it permit a regional or general concern for land development
to count as a factor for allowing a special use permit for a specific property. Instead, one must look only to
the applicable statutory conditions of the code as they apply to a specific parcel of property. To the e�ent
that the Planning Commission considered irrelevant information such as this in its decision the Commission
erred, and we urge you to consider the request for a special use permit for this project based solely upon the
statutory relevant factors and facts considering this property.
Fifth, at no point did the Planning Commission consider other alternative and less intensive uses than the
proposed development. Instead of considering a ten unit cluster development some regard should be given
to a less intense but otherwise compatible use for the property, e.g., several single family units.
Overall, for the reasons specified above, as well as for those listed in the joint letter by all the neighbors, we
believe that City Council should overturn the Planning Commission decision and vote to deny a special use
permit for this project.
However, were City Council disposed to supporting this project, we would ask that you modify the current
special use permit in several ways. First, the overall number of units should be reduced to eight or nine units
such that there will not be either a double unit directly on I.exington or a triple unit located anyv✓here in the
project. A triple unit is clearly incompatible with the existing neighborhood and would be very out of size and
character with the neighborhood. Second, by allowing only one unit on I.exington it will protect the house
ne� to it.
Third, by reducing the number of units to eight or nine it will less the intensification of use, preserve green
space, and make the project less of a traffic safety problem. Fourth, we would like to see the developer post
a bond guaranteeing that the project will be completed as specified. What the neighbors fear most is a project
that is started and never completed, leaving a partially undeveloped hazard in the neighborhood.
Please note, in making this request for a reduction in the number of units the developer will claim that he
has already compromised from his initial plan of fifteen units. However, the original proposal for the plan
was twelve units and subsequently the developer increased his request to fifteen. Hence, a compromise of
eight or nine units to preseroe the neighborhood does not seem unreasonable.
Thank you very much for considering our concerns.
Sincerely,
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Helene and David Schultz
Jauuary 13, 1998 (S:S7pm)
David Schultz