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Wf�REA5, the Council of the City of Saint Paul, in Council File No. 97-1447, initiated
a proposal to amend Saint Paul Legislative Code § 66.214; and
W�IEREAS, the proposed amendment was first introduced on Becember 3, 1997. A
second reading of the proposed amendment was held on December 10, 1997. On December 17,
1997, a public hearing on the proposed amendment was duly conducted pursuant to Saint Paui
City Charter § 6.05 where all persons present were given an opportunity to be heazd and,
whereupon, the public hearing was recessed until the Planing Commission study refened to
below is completed; and
WHEREAS, Minn. Stat. § 462.357, Subd. 4, requires that any amendment to a zoning
ordinance initiated by the governing body shall be referred to the pla.miing agency for the
purpose of preparing a study, report and recommendation on the proposed amendment before the
governing body may take a fmal action; and
WHEREAS, having recessed the public hearing of December 17, 1997, and pursuant to
Minn. Stat. § 462357, Subd. 4, the proposed amendment is to be refened to the Saint Pau1
Planning Commission for a study, report and recommendarion from the said Commission on the
proposed ordinance; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul directs the Saint Paul Plauniug
Commission to undertake a study of the proposed amendment to Saint Paul Legislative Code §
66.214 and to prepaze a report and recommendation to the Council on the proposed amendment
within ninety (90) days of the effective date of this resolution; AND BE IT
FURTI�R RESOLVED, that upon receipt of the report and recommendation of the
Planning Commission, the Council will reopen the December 17, 1997, public hearing on the
proposed amendment for the purpose of takiug additional testimony on the matter as may be
necessary based upon the report and recommendarion of the Plaminig Commission.
Requested by Department of:
By:
Form Approved by City Attorney
B �,���.,.vr�.-- 1� 7 -y �
Adoption Certi£ied by Council Secretary Approved by Mayox for Submission to Council
Ey: g�,
Approved by Ma or: Da �
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Calemmi. Maror
December 26, 1997
Council President Dauid Thune
and Saint Paul City Councilmembers
310 City Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Re: Veto of Council Fiies 97-1569 and 1570lSign Moratorium
Dear Council President Thune:
I am returning with my veto Council File Numbers 97-1569 and 97-1570 which were
intended to enact a moratorium and initiate a study on the location of new advertising
signs in the City. I would also veto Council File 97-1568, the proposed ordinance to
finalize adoption of the moratorium, if the Council were to adopt it.
�
The City Council's decision to enact a significant restraint on business activity is not
justified. The City has a very strict sign ordinance, there has not been a significant increase
in the number of new advertising signs in recent yeazs, and there is no evidence of any
negative impact of signs on the community. The proposed moratorium was opposed by
the Business Review Council, and I agree with their concern that a moratorium is an
overreaction to concerns that have been expressed.
I do understand, however, the concerns raised about the effectiveness of the City sign
credit procedure. That procedure, which provides "credits" for the removal of certain
signs, was adopted by the City Councii in 1988 a$er a thorough study and subsequent
amendment to the sign regulations contained in the Zoning Code. This sign credit
procedure has been greatly misunderstood, but it has not prevented the overall
effectiveness of the sign ordinance from limiting the location and number of new signs
which have been erected.
Sign credits are used to construct new signs which cannot meet the present spacing and or
the height limitations. There has been only one such case in the last five years, and that
sign was constructed at I-94 and Vandalia Street to replace a sign that had been at that
location for many years. Although constructed, the sign is not being used because the
pernut is under appeai. The sign it replaced was found to have been ]ocated, in error, on
the public right-of-way and was ordered removed. In addition, for this sign to be utilized
�
39D Ciry� Hall Telephone: 612-266-8510
IS West Ke[logg Bou[evard Facsimi[e: 612-266-8513
Saint Pau1, MN 55702
Council President David Thune
December 26, 1997
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a variance wili be required and the City Council will have the ultimate deternvnation on
whether this sign can be utilized for advertising purposes.
Given that our sign ordinance is working well in general, I support the request of the
Office of License Inspections and Environmental Protection for a Plam�ing Commission
review limited to the sign credit procedure which is raising concerns rather than rushing to
enact a moratorium on all new signs and initiate a major new study.
Again, because our present regulations are very restrictive and there are few ]ocations left
in the City where new signs can be constnxcted, I am confident that there will be no nxsh
to erect signs which will be of concern to members of the community in the absence of a
moratorium.
Sincerely,
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JG!�'r�-
Norm Coleman
Mayor
attachments
c: Robert Kessler, LIEP Director
Pam Wheelock, PED Director
Peg Birk, City Attorney
Peter Warner Assistant City Attorney
Gerry Strathman, Council Secretary
Saint Paul Pianning Commission
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RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA �
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Presented By
Referred To
Committee: Date
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Wf�REA5, the Council of the City of Saint Paul, in Council File No. 97-1447, initiated
a proposal to amend Saint Paul Legislative Code § 66.214; and
W�IEREAS, the proposed amendment was first introduced on Becember 3, 1997. A
second reading of the proposed amendment was held on December 10, 1997. On December 17,
1997, a public hearing on the proposed amendment was duly conducted pursuant to Saint Paui
City Charter § 6.05 where all persons present were given an opportunity to be heazd and,
whereupon, the public hearing was recessed until the Planing Commission study refened to
below is completed; and
WHEREAS, Minn. Stat. § 462.357, Subd. 4, requires that any amendment to a zoning
ordinance initiated by the governing body shall be referred to the pla.miing agency for the
purpose of preparing a study, report and recommendation on the proposed amendment before the
governing body may take a fmal action; and
WHEREAS, having recessed the public hearing of December 17, 1997, and pursuant to
Minn. Stat. § 462357, Subd. 4, the proposed amendment is to be refened to the Saint Pau1
Planning Commission for a study, report and recommendarion from the said Commission on the
proposed ordinance; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul directs the Saint Paul Plauniug
Commission to undertake a study of the proposed amendment to Saint Paul Legislative Code §
66.214 and to prepaze a report and recommendation to the Council on the proposed amendment
within ninety (90) days of the effective date of this resolution; AND BE IT
FURTI�R RESOLVED, that upon receipt of the report and recommendation of the
Planning Commission, the Council will reopen the December 17, 1997, public hearing on the
proposed amendment for the purpose of takiug additional testimony on the matter as may be
necessary based upon the report and recommendarion of the Plaminig Commission.
Requested by Department of:
By:
Form Approved by City Attorney
B �,���.,.vr�.-- 1� 7 -y �
Adoption Certi£ied by Council Secretary Approved by Mayox for Submission to Council
Ey: g�,
Approved by Ma or: Da �
F�
HY: L/
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Adopted by Council: Date Sje.,.�11�1g
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Calemmi. Maror
December 26, 1997
Council President Dauid Thune
and Saint Paul City Councilmembers
310 City Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Re: Veto of Council Fiies 97-1569 and 1570lSign Moratorium
Dear Council President Thune:
I am returning with my veto Council File Numbers 97-1569 and 97-1570 which were
intended to enact a moratorium and initiate a study on the location of new advertising
signs in the City. I would also veto Council File 97-1568, the proposed ordinance to
finalize adoption of the moratorium, if the Council were to adopt it.
�
The City Council's decision to enact a significant restraint on business activity is not
justified. The City has a very strict sign ordinance, there has not been a significant increase
in the number of new advertising signs in recent yeazs, and there is no evidence of any
negative impact of signs on the community. The proposed moratorium was opposed by
the Business Review Council, and I agree with their concern that a moratorium is an
overreaction to concerns that have been expressed.
I do understand, however, the concerns raised about the effectiveness of the City sign
credit procedure. That procedure, which provides "credits" for the removal of certain
signs, was adopted by the City Councii in 1988 a$er a thorough study and subsequent
amendment to the sign regulations contained in the Zoning Code. This sign credit
procedure has been greatly misunderstood, but it has not prevented the overall
effectiveness of the sign ordinance from limiting the location and number of new signs
which have been erected.
Sign credits are used to construct new signs which cannot meet the present spacing and or
the height limitations. There has been only one such case in the last five years, and that
sign was constructed at I-94 and Vandalia Street to replace a sign that had been at that
location for many years. Although constructed, the sign is not being used because the
pernut is under appeai. The sign it replaced was found to have been ]ocated, in error, on
the public right-of-way and was ordered removed. In addition, for this sign to be utilized
�
39D Ciry� Hall Telephone: 612-266-8510
IS West Ke[logg Bou[evard Facsimi[e: 612-266-8513
Saint Pau1, MN 55702
Council President David Thune
December 26, 1997
Page 2
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a variance wili be required and the City Council will have the ultimate deternvnation on
whether this sign can be utilized for advertising purposes.
Given that our sign ordinance is working well in general, I support the request of the
Office of License Inspections and Environmental Protection for a Plam�ing Commission
review limited to the sign credit procedure which is raising concerns rather than rushing to
enact a moratorium on all new signs and initiate a major new study.
Again, because our present regulations are very restrictive and there are few ]ocations left
in the City where new signs can be constnxcted, I am confident that there will be no nxsh
to erect signs which will be of concern to members of the community in the absence of a
moratorium.
Sincerely,
/
�
JG!�'r�-
Norm Coleman
Mayor
attachments
c: Robert Kessler, LIEP Director
Pam Wheelock, PED Director
Peg Birk, City Attorney
Peter Warner Assistant City Attorney
Gerry Strathman, Council Secretary
Saint Paul Pianning Commission
(w/attachments)
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Green Sheet # � � � �
RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA �
�/I i ..d �., _ ��b �
Presented By
Referred To
Committee: Date
2
3
4
5
6
7
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
Wf�REA5, the Council of the City of Saint Paul, in Council File No. 97-1447, initiated
a proposal to amend Saint Paul Legislative Code § 66.214; and
W�IEREAS, the proposed amendment was first introduced on Becember 3, 1997. A
second reading of the proposed amendment was held on December 10, 1997. On December 17,
1997, a public hearing on the proposed amendment was duly conducted pursuant to Saint Paui
City Charter § 6.05 where all persons present were given an opportunity to be heazd and,
whereupon, the public hearing was recessed until the Planing Commission study refened to
below is completed; and
WHEREAS, Minn. Stat. § 462.357, Subd. 4, requires that any amendment to a zoning
ordinance initiated by the governing body shall be referred to the pla.miing agency for the
purpose of preparing a study, report and recommendation on the proposed amendment before the
governing body may take a fmal action; and
WHEREAS, having recessed the public hearing of December 17, 1997, and pursuant to
Minn. Stat. § 462357, Subd. 4, the proposed amendment is to be refened to the Saint Pau1
Planning Commission for a study, report and recommendarion from the said Commission on the
proposed ordinance; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
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4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
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RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul directs the Saint Paul Plauniug
Commission to undertake a study of the proposed amendment to Saint Paul Legislative Code §
66.214 and to prepaze a report and recommendation to the Council on the proposed amendment
within ninety (90) days of the effective date of this resolution; AND BE IT
FURTI�R RESOLVED, that upon receipt of the report and recommendation of the
Planning Commission, the Council will reopen the December 17, 1997, public hearing on the
proposed amendment for the purpose of takiug additional testimony on the matter as may be
necessary based upon the report and recommendarion of the Plaminig Commission.
Requested by Department of:
By:
Form Approved by City Attorney
B �,���.,.vr�.-- 1� 7 -y �
Adoption Certi£ied by Council Secretary Approved by Mayox for Submission to Council
Ey: g�,
Approved by Ma or: Da �
F�
HY: L/
� 2�2 b � 7 NJ/� �---
�
Adopted by Council: Date Sje.,.�11�1g
f� -� 1� y� I GREEN SHEET
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CIB COMMITTEE
C1VIL SERVICE COMMISSION
IF APPROVED
70TALAMOUNTOFTRANSACTIONf
RSONAL SERKCE CONTRACiS MUS7ANSWER 7NE FOLL01N2N6 QUESTIONS:
Ha6 fhis De��� eRI M�DIkEd u(IdH 8 COI1fR1Cf fof Nib dCPart/11en1?
YES t�
Has this Oeraonl�rtn evu heen e city em0loYee7 ,
Ye5 NO
Oces this PersoruTrtn D� a sldN not namalbPOSCeasetl M/ anY current citY BmPloYeeT
YES NO
Isttxs P�� a Wr9etedvenda?
YFS NO
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Calemmi. Maror
December 26, 1997
Council President Dauid Thune
and Saint Paul City Councilmembers
310 City Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Re: Veto of Council Fiies 97-1569 and 1570lSign Moratorium
Dear Council President Thune:
I am returning with my veto Council File Numbers 97-1569 and 97-1570 which were
intended to enact a moratorium and initiate a study on the location of new advertising
signs in the City. I would also veto Council File 97-1568, the proposed ordinance to
finalize adoption of the moratorium, if the Council were to adopt it.
�
The City Council's decision to enact a significant restraint on business activity is not
justified. The City has a very strict sign ordinance, there has not been a significant increase
in the number of new advertising signs in recent yeazs, and there is no evidence of any
negative impact of signs on the community. The proposed moratorium was opposed by
the Business Review Council, and I agree with their concern that a moratorium is an
overreaction to concerns that have been expressed.
I do understand, however, the concerns raised about the effectiveness of the City sign
credit procedure. That procedure, which provides "credits" for the removal of certain
signs, was adopted by the City Councii in 1988 a$er a thorough study and subsequent
amendment to the sign regulations contained in the Zoning Code. This sign credit
procedure has been greatly misunderstood, but it has not prevented the overall
effectiveness of the sign ordinance from limiting the location and number of new signs
which have been erected.
Sign credits are used to construct new signs which cannot meet the present spacing and or
the height limitations. There has been only one such case in the last five years, and that
sign was constructed at I-94 and Vandalia Street to replace a sign that had been at that
location for many years. Although constructed, the sign is not being used because the
pernut is under appeai. The sign it replaced was found to have been ]ocated, in error, on
the public right-of-way and was ordered removed. In addition, for this sign to be utilized
�
39D Ciry� Hall Telephone: 612-266-8510
IS West Ke[logg Bou[evard Facsimi[e: 612-266-8513
Saint Pau1, MN 55702
Council President David Thune
December 26, 1997
Page 2
��-��
a variance wili be required and the City Council will have the ultimate deternvnation on
whether this sign can be utilized for advertising purposes.
Given that our sign ordinance is working well in general, I support the request of the
Office of License Inspections and Environmental Protection for a Plam�ing Commission
review limited to the sign credit procedure which is raising concerns rather than rushing to
enact a moratorium on all new signs and initiate a major new study.
Again, because our present regulations are very restrictive and there are few ]ocations left
in the City where new signs can be constnxcted, I am confident that there will be no nxsh
to erect signs which will be of concern to members of the community in the absence of a
moratorium.
Sincerely,
/
�
JG!�'r�-
Norm Coleman
Mayor
attachments
c: Robert Kessler, LIEP Director
Pam Wheelock, PED Director
Peg Birk, City Attorney
Peter Warner Assistant City Attorney
Gerry Strathman, Council Secretary
Saint Paul Pianning Commission
(w/attachments)
H:\USEAS�ZUSAN�WPFiLES�SIGNSTDY.VET