97-1334Council File # q � _ �' y
Green Sheet # 60776
LUTION
'AUL. MlNNESOTA
Presented
Referred To
Committee Date
S�y
i BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the October 21, 1997
2 decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer:
3 Property A�pealed
4 765 Rando�h Avenue
S Decision: Laid over to December 2, 1997 Legislative Hearing.
6 986 Dale Street North
7 Decision: Appeal granted.
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Yeas Nays Absent
Blakey
Bostrom �
Hazris ✓
Megard �
Morton i/
Collins ✓
Thune
D
ellant
Ron Staeheli
Mo Lin Ho & Pak-Hong Wong
Requested by Departtnent of:
�
Form Approved by City Attorney
�
l Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
15 Adopted by Council: Date �� \���
�—
16 Adoption C fied by Council Secr� �
17 By: ��_��� �- ?�o_�,�.,,
18 Approved by Mayor: Date t�� 1 L� 4`�—
19 sy:
1
TOTAL � OF SIGNATURE PAGES
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Approving decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code
Appeals for October 21, 1997 meeting.
Property Locations - 765 Randolph Avenue; 986 Dale Street North.
City Council Offices
r aEa� s vHOr�
Dave Thune 266-8620
November_5; I997 '
PIANNING CAMMISSION
CIB CAMMfT�EE
CIViI SERVICE COMMISSION
F1as Nis P����m eeer worketl untlH a contrad farNis AePartmenl7
YES NO
tias thia pavsonfi�m ever eeen a ciry emp�oyee9
Y6 NO
Daes Mis Pewonlfirtn P� a sWll rqt nonnallYP�sessetl b�' anY cuireM oilY emWuYee?
YES NO
Isthia persoMrm aferyeted vendo?
YES NO
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INFORMATION (IXPWNJ
COST/REVHiUE BUIXiETED (CIRCLE ON�
ACiIV4TY NUIIIBER
YEE NO
MINUTES OF PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING �('� - I'�3 �
October 21, 1997
Room 330, City Hall
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing Officer
Staff: Don Wagner, Carrolyn Shepherd and Phii Owens
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing O�cer, called the meeting to order at 130 pm.
765 Randoluh Avenue
Ron and Diane Staeheli, owners, appeazed. Mr. Staeheli stated that they purchased this
property in June from Principal Financial Group of Iowa, adding that he obtained a special
warranty deed from a Minneapolis law firm in exchange for a cashiers check. Mr. Staeheli
indicated that there was no disclosure. After moving in, Mr. Staeheli stated that an inspector
informed him this was a registered vacant building, condemned in November, 1996.
Carrolyn Shepherd, Public Health, reported that the property was condemned for various
reasons - a deck with no guard rail, a gazage illegally electrified with an ea�tension cord, broken
windows, tom screens and a deteriorated gazage roof. Ms. Shepherd stated tha# the city had to
secure the building and gazage numerous times.
Don Wagner, Public Health, stated that while he understands that some of the items on
the inspection repozt of September 22"° have been coaected, permits were not obtained.
Discussion took place between Don Wagner and Mr. Staeheli with respect to items on the
September 22n report. Mt. Wagner emphasized the importance of smoke detectors and a venting
situafion. Mr. Staeheli stated that the biggest problem he has is the vent serving the first floor'/2
bath and kitchen sink - in order to proper�y vent the bathroom, all of the walls going up from the
basement would have to be torn out.
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Aearing Officer, Iaid the appeal over to December 2"a, with
the understanding that all necessary smoke detectors will be installed properly. Mr. Strathman
stated that proper pemuts must be obtained for all work and that an inspection is required before
December 2'�. Mr. Strathman stated that if the other matters have been resolved by that time, he
will consider waiving the venting requirement.
986 Dale Street North
Pak-Hong Wong, representing his mother, Sauking Wong, appeared. Mr. Wong stated
that in an attempt to obtain a renewal of the commercial building pemut, two items were noted in
the inspection report which he is appealing -(1) instaliation of guardrails on rear eatterior stairs;
(2) installa6on of a one-hour rated door separating residenrial from commercial space.
9'1-1'3 3 �
Plullip Owens, Fire Prevention, reported that the inspector indicated these two situations
were brought to the attention of the appeilant at the time of the original inspection, however,
failed to be included on the written order. During the teinspecrion, the violations were once
again noted and included on the second order.
With respect to the guardrails on the exterior stairs, Mr. Wong stated that the building
inspection report done two years ago did not indicate this was a problem. Mr. Owens stated that
rails aze there, but do not meet the code requirement of a maximum distance of 4° between them.
Regarding the one-hour occupancy separation between commercial and residential
spaces, Mr. Wong stated that six yeazs ago his mother had part of the basement zoned for
residential use with no kitchen or a bathroom, with the understanding that tlus space would be
used for recreational purposes oniy. Ivu. Owens stated that the code requirement protects the
residents from a problem that may occur in the commercial space while sleenine. Normaily, the
sepazation is made at the commercial space. However, because of the unusual stair configuration
in this building, Mr. Owens advised that the sepazation could be placed at the residential door.
Mr. Owens added that the replacement of one door at the residential reaz exit would bring this
situation into compliance. '
Gerry Stratlunan, Legislative Hearing Officer, granted the appeal based on the fact that he
did not feel the lack of a one-hour door to the recreational azea was much of a hazard. However,
he did caution Mr. Wong that the guardrail situation is a hazzrd that needs to be remedied.
The meeting was adjourned at 2:29 p.m.
..
Council File # q � _ �' y
Green Sheet # 60776
LUTION
'AUL. MlNNESOTA
Presented
Referred To
Committee Date
S�y
i BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the October 21, 1997
2 decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer:
3 Property A�pealed
4 765 Rando�h Avenue
S Decision: Laid over to December 2, 1997 Legislative Hearing.
6 986 Dale Street North
7 Decision: Appeal granted.
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Yeas Nays Absent
Blakey
Bostrom �
Hazris ✓
Megard �
Morton i/
Collins ✓
Thune
D
ellant
Ron Staeheli
Mo Lin Ho & Pak-Hong Wong
Requested by Departtnent of:
�
Form Approved by City Attorney
�
l Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
15 Adopted by Council: Date �� \���
�—
16 Adoption C fied by Council Secr� �
17 By: ��_��� �- ?�o_�,�.,,
18 Approved by Mayor: Date t�� 1 L� 4`�—
19 sy:
1
TOTAL � OF SIGNATURE PAGES
10/21J97
xurem wrs
Ro11TWf.
GREEN SHEET
° (?-133�{
No 60776
��.,a,��� ���_
❑ �,,.«� ❑ �„�
❑ wi�ueuuaEmncooR. ❑ wuixu�iamvi�cera
❑wYOR1���Mm ❑
(CLIP ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE)
Approving decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code
Appeals for October 21, 1997 meeting.
Property Locations - 765 Randolph Avenue; 986 Dale Street North.
City Council Offices
r aEa� s vHOr�
Dave Thune 266-8620
November_5; I997 '
PIANNING CAMMISSION
CIB CAMMfT�EE
CIViI SERVICE COMMISSION
F1as Nis P����m eeer worketl untlH a contrad farNis AePartmenl7
YES NO
tias thia pavsonfi�m ever eeen a ciry emp�oyee9
Y6 NO
Daes Mis Pewonlfirtn P� a sWll rqt nonnallYP�sessetl b�' anY cuireM oilY emWuYee?
YES NO
Isthia persoMrm aferyeted vendo?
YES NO
s '��� : =^� �+. '��r��r'o�3sb�
�+:° �
Q�� 211997
IFAPPROVED
S
SOURCE
INFORMATION (IXPWNJ
COST/REVHiUE BUIXiETED (CIRCLE ON�
ACiIV4TY NUIIIBER
YEE NO
MINUTES OF PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING �('� - I'�3 �
October 21, 1997
Room 330, City Hall
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing Officer
Staff: Don Wagner, Carrolyn Shepherd and Phii Owens
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing O�cer, called the meeting to order at 130 pm.
765 Randoluh Avenue
Ron and Diane Staeheli, owners, appeazed. Mr. Staeheli stated that they purchased this
property in June from Principal Financial Group of Iowa, adding that he obtained a special
warranty deed from a Minneapolis law firm in exchange for a cashiers check. Mr. Staeheli
indicated that there was no disclosure. After moving in, Mr. Staeheli stated that an inspector
informed him this was a registered vacant building, condemned in November, 1996.
Carrolyn Shepherd, Public Health, reported that the property was condemned for various
reasons - a deck with no guard rail, a gazage illegally electrified with an ea�tension cord, broken
windows, tom screens and a deteriorated gazage roof. Ms. Shepherd stated tha# the city had to
secure the building and gazage numerous times.
Don Wagner, Public Health, stated that while he understands that some of the items on
the inspection repozt of September 22"° have been coaected, permits were not obtained.
Discussion took place between Don Wagner and Mr. Staeheli with respect to items on the
September 22n report. Mt. Wagner emphasized the importance of smoke detectors and a venting
situafion. Mr. Staeheli stated that the biggest problem he has is the vent serving the first floor'/2
bath and kitchen sink - in order to proper�y vent the bathroom, all of the walls going up from the
basement would have to be torn out.
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Aearing Officer, Iaid the appeal over to December 2"a, with
the understanding that all necessary smoke detectors will be installed properly. Mr. Strathman
stated that proper pemuts must be obtained for all work and that an inspection is required before
December 2'�. Mr. Strathman stated that if the other matters have been resolved by that time, he
will consider waiving the venting requirement.
986 Dale Street North
Pak-Hong Wong, representing his mother, Sauking Wong, appeared. Mr. Wong stated
that in an attempt to obtain a renewal of the commercial building pemut, two items were noted in
the inspection report which he is appealing -(1) instaliation of guardrails on rear eatterior stairs;
(2) installa6on of a one-hour rated door separating residenrial from commercial space.
9'1-1'3 3 �
Plullip Owens, Fire Prevention, reported that the inspector indicated these two situations
were brought to the attention of the appeilant at the time of the original inspection, however,
failed to be included on the written order. During the teinspecrion, the violations were once
again noted and included on the second order.
With respect to the guardrails on the exterior stairs, Mr. Wong stated that the building
inspection report done two years ago did not indicate this was a problem. Mr. Owens stated that
rails aze there, but do not meet the code requirement of a maximum distance of 4° between them.
Regarding the one-hour occupancy separation between commercial and residential
spaces, Mr. Wong stated that six yeazs ago his mother had part of the basement zoned for
residential use with no kitchen or a bathroom, with the understanding that tlus space would be
used for recreational purposes oniy. Ivu. Owens stated that the code requirement protects the
residents from a problem that may occur in the commercial space while sleenine. Normaily, the
sepazation is made at the commercial space. However, because of the unusual stair configuration
in this building, Mr. Owens advised that the sepazation could be placed at the residential door.
Mr. Owens added that the replacement of one door at the residential reaz exit would bring this
situation into compliance. '
Gerry Stratlunan, Legislative Hearing Officer, granted the appeal based on the fact that he
did not feel the lack of a one-hour door to the recreational azea was much of a hazard. However,
he did caution Mr. Wong that the guardrail situation is a hazzrd that needs to be remedied.
The meeting was adjourned at 2:29 p.m.
..
Council File # q � _ �' y
Green Sheet # 60776
LUTION
'AUL. MlNNESOTA
Presented
Referred To
Committee Date
S�y
i BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the October 21, 1997
2 decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer:
3 Property A�pealed
4 765 Rando�h Avenue
S Decision: Laid over to December 2, 1997 Legislative Hearing.
6 986 Dale Street North
7 Decision: Appeal granted.
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Yeas Nays Absent
Blakey
Bostrom �
Hazris ✓
Megard �
Morton i/
Collins ✓
Thune
D
ellant
Ron Staeheli
Mo Lin Ho & Pak-Hong Wong
Requested by Departtnent of:
�
Form Approved by City Attorney
�
l Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
15 Adopted by Council: Date �� \���
�—
16 Adoption C fied by Council Secr� �
17 By: ��_��� �- ?�o_�,�.,,
18 Approved by Mayor: Date t�� 1 L� 4`�—
19 sy:
1
TOTAL � OF SIGNATURE PAGES
10/21J97
xurem wrs
Ro11TWf.
GREEN SHEET
° (?-133�{
No 60776
��.,a,��� ���_
❑ �,,.«� ❑ �„�
❑ wi�ueuuaEmncooR. ❑ wuixu�iamvi�cera
❑wYOR1���Mm ❑
(CLIP ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE)
Approving decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code
Appeals for October 21, 1997 meeting.
Property Locations - 765 Randolph Avenue; 986 Dale Street North.
City Council Offices
r aEa� s vHOr�
Dave Thune 266-8620
November_5; I997 '
PIANNING CAMMISSION
CIB CAMMfT�EE
CIViI SERVICE COMMISSION
F1as Nis P����m eeer worketl untlH a contrad farNis AePartmenl7
YES NO
tias thia pavsonfi�m ever eeen a ciry emp�oyee9
Y6 NO
Daes Mis Pewonlfirtn P� a sWll rqt nonnallYP�sessetl b�' anY cuireM oilY emWuYee?
YES NO
Isthia persoMrm aferyeted vendo?
YES NO
s '��� : =^� �+. '��r��r'o�3sb�
�+:° �
Q�� 211997
IFAPPROVED
S
SOURCE
INFORMATION (IXPWNJ
COST/REVHiUE BUIXiETED (CIRCLE ON�
ACiIV4TY NUIIIBER
YEE NO
MINUTES OF PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING �('� - I'�3 �
October 21, 1997
Room 330, City Hall
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing Officer
Staff: Don Wagner, Carrolyn Shepherd and Phii Owens
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing O�cer, called the meeting to order at 130 pm.
765 Randoluh Avenue
Ron and Diane Staeheli, owners, appeazed. Mr. Staeheli stated that they purchased this
property in June from Principal Financial Group of Iowa, adding that he obtained a special
warranty deed from a Minneapolis law firm in exchange for a cashiers check. Mr. Staeheli
indicated that there was no disclosure. After moving in, Mr. Staeheli stated that an inspector
informed him this was a registered vacant building, condemned in November, 1996.
Carrolyn Shepherd, Public Health, reported that the property was condemned for various
reasons - a deck with no guard rail, a gazage illegally electrified with an ea�tension cord, broken
windows, tom screens and a deteriorated gazage roof. Ms. Shepherd stated tha# the city had to
secure the building and gazage numerous times.
Don Wagner, Public Health, stated that while he understands that some of the items on
the inspection repozt of September 22"° have been coaected, permits were not obtained.
Discussion took place between Don Wagner and Mr. Staeheli with respect to items on the
September 22n report. Mt. Wagner emphasized the importance of smoke detectors and a venting
situafion. Mr. Staeheli stated that the biggest problem he has is the vent serving the first floor'/2
bath and kitchen sink - in order to proper�y vent the bathroom, all of the walls going up from the
basement would have to be torn out.
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Aearing Officer, Iaid the appeal over to December 2"a, with
the understanding that all necessary smoke detectors will be installed properly. Mr. Strathman
stated that proper pemuts must be obtained for all work and that an inspection is required before
December 2'�. Mr. Strathman stated that if the other matters have been resolved by that time, he
will consider waiving the venting requirement.
986 Dale Street North
Pak-Hong Wong, representing his mother, Sauking Wong, appeared. Mr. Wong stated
that in an attempt to obtain a renewal of the commercial building pemut, two items were noted in
the inspection report which he is appealing -(1) instaliation of guardrails on rear eatterior stairs;
(2) installa6on of a one-hour rated door separating residenrial from commercial space.
9'1-1'3 3 �
Plullip Owens, Fire Prevention, reported that the inspector indicated these two situations
were brought to the attention of the appeilant at the time of the original inspection, however,
failed to be included on the written order. During the teinspecrion, the violations were once
again noted and included on the second order.
With respect to the guardrails on the exterior stairs, Mr. Wong stated that the building
inspection report done two years ago did not indicate this was a problem. Mr. Owens stated that
rails aze there, but do not meet the code requirement of a maximum distance of 4° between them.
Regarding the one-hour occupancy separation between commercial and residential
spaces, Mr. Wong stated that six yeazs ago his mother had part of the basement zoned for
residential use with no kitchen or a bathroom, with the understanding that tlus space would be
used for recreational purposes oniy. Ivu. Owens stated that the code requirement protects the
residents from a problem that may occur in the commercial space while sleenine. Normaily, the
sepazation is made at the commercial space. However, because of the unusual stair configuration
in this building, Mr. Owens advised that the sepazation could be placed at the residential door.
Mr. Owens added that the replacement of one door at the residential reaz exit would bring this
situation into compliance. '
Gerry Stratlunan, Legislative Hearing Officer, granted the appeal based on the fact that he
did not feel the lack of a one-hour door to the recreational azea was much of a hazard. However,
he did caution Mr. Wong that the guardrail situation is a hazzrd that needs to be remedied.
The meeting was adjourned at 2:29 p.m.
..