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The City of Saint Paul
Meetings for the Week of
January 9th, thru January 13th, 2006
MONDAY - January 9th
No Meetings Scheduled
TUESDAY - January 10th
Ramsey County Board Meeting 9:00 AM Council Chambers, City Hall/Court
House
Board of Water Commissioners 5:00 PM Council Chambers, City Hall
WEDNESDAY - January 11th
*Housing &Redevelopment 2:00 PM Council Chambers, City Hall
Authority
*City Council --- see Agenda 3:30 PM Council Chambers, City Hall
THURSDAY - January 12th
No Meetings Scheduled
FRIDAY - January 13th
Planning Commission 8:30 AM Room 40, City Hall
* Cablecast live and repeated on Saint Paul Channel 18.
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MEETING NOTICE
BOARD OF RAMSEY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
15 W. KELLOGG BLVD., ST. PAUL, MN 55102
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.MSEY COUNTY
Monday, January 9, 2006
Tuesday, January 10, 2006
8:30 a.m. - Executive Session—Re: County Manager's Performance Review
**CLOSED TO PUBLIC**
Room 220, Large Conference Room •
9:00 a.m. - County Board Meeting
Council Chambers, Third Floor Court House
12:00 noon - Ramsey County Delegation Meeting
Landmark Center
75 W. Fifth Street, Room 430, St. Paul
Wednesday, January 11, 2006
10:15 a.m. - Red Rock Corridor Commission ** Special Meeting **
2099 W. University Avenue, Room 227, St. Paul
10:30 a.m. - Metropolitan Emergency Services Board
2099 W. University Avenue, St. Paul
METH —A Conference on Strengthening Our Community Resistance
Radisson Riverfront Hotel, St. Paul
Thursday, January 12, 2006
METH —A Conference on Strengthening Our Community Resistance
Radisson Riverfront Hotel, St. Paul
12:00 noon - Minnesota Landmarks Board of Directors
75 W. Fifth Street, St. Paul
Friday, January 13, 2006
Advance Notice
January 17, 2006 — County Board Meeting — Council Chambers
January 24, 2006 — County Board Meeting — Council Chambers
January 31 , 2006 - No County Board Meeting — 5`h Tuesday
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BOARD OF WATER COMMISSIONERS
President: Patrick Harris • Vice President:John Zanmiller
Commissioners: Matt Anfang ♦ Bob Cardinal ♦ Gregory Kleindl • Debbie Montgomery ♦ Dave Thune
January 3, 2006
RECEIVED
NOTICES TO: JAN 0 4 2006
Pat Harris, President CITY CLERK.
John Zanmiller, Vice President
Commissioners -- Matt Anfang
Gregory Kleindl
Debbie Montgomery
Dave Thune
MEETING LOCATION CHANGE
The next Board of Water Commissioners meeting will be held on TUESDAY,
JANUARY 10, 2006 at 5 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 3rd Floor, City
Hall/Courthouse.
Please contact Steve Schneider at 651-266-6274 if you are unable to attend.
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Janet Lindgren
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Saint Paul Regional Water Services provides quality water services to the following cities:
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HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
NOTICE OF MEETING CANCELLATION
OF THE
COMMISSIONERS OF THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
OF THE
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
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TO: Jay Benanav SEC r 9 2005
Dan Bostrom
Pat Harris CITY CLERK
Lee Helgen
Kathy Lantry
Debbie Montgomery
Dave Thune
Notice is hereby given that the Regular Meeting of the Commissioners of the Housing and Redevelopment
Authority of the City of Saint Paul, Minnesota scheduled for Wednesday, December 28, 2005, has been
cancelled. The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held on Wednesday, January 11, 2006, and the Agenda
will be mailed prior to that meeting.
Chair
December 15, 2005
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Saint Paul Planning Commission
City Hall Conference Center BAN 3 2006
15 Kellogg Boulevard West CITY CLERK
Minutes of January 13, 2006
A meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Saint Paul was held Friday, January 13, 2006,
at 8:30 a.m. in the Conference Center of City Hall.
Commissioners Mmes., Faricy, Zimmer Lonetti, Lu, Morton, and Trevino; and Messrs. Alton,
Present: Anfang, Bellus, Coletta, Goodlow, Gordon,Johnson,Kramer, Mejia and Scott.
Commissioners Mmes. * Donnelly-Cohen, * McCall, * Porter; and Messrs. * Aligada, Dandrea, and
Absent: Kong.
*Excused
Also Present: Larry Soderholm, Planning Administrator; Penny Simison, Patricia James, Jessica
Rosenfeld, Lucy Thompson,Allan Torstenson, Shawntera Hardy, and Kate Fleming,
Department of Planning and Economic Development staff.
I. Approval of minutes of December 30,2005.
MOTION: Commissioner Alton moved approval of the minutes of December 30, 2005.
Commissioner Morton seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously on a voice vote.
II. Chair's Announcements
Chair Johnson welcomed everyone to the first meeting under Mayor Christopher Coleman.
Chair Johnson reported on the public workshop he attended on January 12, 2006, regarding the
Great River Park. It was one of four meetings held by the Saint Paul Riverfront Corporation. He
distributed a brochure and asked Lucy Thompson for an update.
Lucy Thompson gave a brief report on the Great River Park. The preliminary plan will be released
at the Fillmore Dinner in May. There will be another workshop on January 17,2006, on the
Valley Reach. The four themes for the plan are creating a city that is more urban,more natural,
more connected and a national asset.
III. Planning Administrator's Announcements
Larry Soderholm announced that the new Technical Advisory Committee for the Watershed
Districts is starting up. Commissioner Lu has agreed to represent the Planning Commissioner for
this project to review and refine the proposed rules for surface water management.
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IV. PUBLIC HEARING:
(Item from the Neighborhood and Current Planning Committee,Penny Simison, 651/266-6554 and
Jessica Rosenfeld, 651/266-6560)
Phalen/Atlantic Plan
Proposed IR Zoning Code Amendments Citywide
Proposed IR Zoning for properties in the Phalen/Atlantic study
Penny Simison and Jessica Rosenfeld gave a staff report.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the concerns regarding the yard-waste site referred to in the
letter dated January 11, 2006, received from Jim McDonough, Board of Ramsey County
Commissioners, District 6.
Penny Simison explained she just received the letter and wanted more time to look into the
concerns more thoughtfully.
Commissioner Alton commented on the different uses that are permitted in the Light Industrial
Restricted District(IR). Several uses are permitted in a B zone district but are not permitted in an
IR zone.
Penny Simison explained differences in zoning districts.
Commissioner Kramer explained the IR District and how residential neighborhoods adjacent to
these sites will be addressed.
Chair Johnson read the rules of procedure for the public hearing and announced that notice of the
public hearing was published in the Legal Ledger on December 29, 2005, and mailed to the
citywide Early Notification System list of the recipients and other interested parties.
The following people spoke:
1. Ramsey County Commissioner Janice Rettman, District 3, 682 W. Iowa Avenue, Saint Paul,
Mn 55117. Commissioner Rettman spoke on behalf of Commissioner McDonough and
Commissioners Ortega and Rhinehart. These four commissioners represent the East Side.
They have asked the Planning Commission to allow the East side yard waste site to continue to
be a permitted conforming use. This has been praised as an environmental asset to the East side
community by many of the residents.The East Side site is a permitted use with a conditional
use permit in its I1 Light Industrial District and they would like to keep it as it is;the proposed
zoning change would make it a nonconforming use.
Commissioner Faircy asked if trash haulers also use this facility?
Commissioner Rettman said they do not.
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Commissioner Gordon asked if the site were restricted what would happen, and where would
the yard waste go?
Commissioner Rettman responded that illegal dumping would become common again; the
nearest alternative site is in the Midway area and they are at full capacity.
2. Mr. Norm Schiferl,Ramsey County Department of Environmental Health, 1670 Beam Avenue,
Suite A, Saint Paul, Mn 55109. The concerns with the nonconforming use permit are the long-
term stability of the site. They need flexibility on the sites, not more restrictions. Mr. Schiferl
suggested making a special IR-Phalen/Atlantic zone where the yard waste site would be a
permitted, conditional use.
3. Mr. John Springman, Ramsey County Department of Environmental Health, 1670
Beam Avenue, Suite A, Saint Paul, Mn 55109. Mr. Springman wanted to revisit the issue of
what would happen if this site closed. There is not another site that could handle the volume
that this site has, and there would not be another viable site available.
Commissioner Bellus asked if the County owns the property and if you have a conditional use
permit what would have to happen so that the County would close the facility?
Mr. Schiferl responded that any time the City makes land use nonconforming, the ultimate long
term purpose is to phase it out. No one knows if this will happen in the future or not. It would
also make it more difficult to make any changes in the future. A conforming use has more
flexibility. If it became a nonconforming use, it will make it more difficult to make whatever
changes will be needed in the future.
Commissioner Bellus asked if the County would decide to sell the property and change the use
if the facility had to operate under a nonconforming use permit.
Mr. Schiferl stated under the nonconforming use permit, any decisions about changes or
expansions would be made by the City.
Commissioner Anfang commented that with the conditional use permit now,there might be an
expansion of the services at the site, whereas a nonconforming use permit in the future might
limit your capabilities of meeting the needs of the County.
Mr. Schiferl stated it would not necessarily have to be only an expansion.
Commissioner Kramer stated there is another significant difference between nonconforming
and existing conditional use permits. When the County added brush collection and shredding
to the conditional use permit they had to come before the Planning Commission. If it moved to
a nonconforming use permit, before they could file that application they would have to get
consent from surrounding property owners to expand the use and that is the big difference in
the applications.
Commissioner Alton asked if they anticipate in their long-term plans adding any structures on
the property.
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Mr. Springman stated they do not have any plans of structures being added to the properties.
4. Mr. Chuck Repke,District 2 Community Council, 1961 Sherwood, Saint Paul,Mn 55112.
District 2 is located just beyond the Phalen/Atlantic area. He wants everyone to remember that
for them,this area is their front yard, and that it is important to continue clean-up efforts. There
are a number of very ugly, polluted sites. The zoning that is being approved has the potential to
improve these areas. Mr. Repke was on the Phalen-Atlantic Task Force and was not sure what
decision to make on the zoning for the yard waste site. If it remains, it is only a matter of time
before community members begin to put pressure on the Planning Commission, City Council
member Bostrom and Commissioner McDonough to clean up the area. This road is becoming
popular fast, with the revitalization of the Ames Lake area. There are many upscale residents
being added in this area, and they drive up that road past the steaming yard waste piles.
Eventually these residents will begin calling Commissioner McDonough to complain about
what they see along Phalen Boulevard. For now,the Ramsey County Commissioners are
responding to constituents who support the yard waste facility, but over time that sentiment
may change.
Commissioner Anfang asked what Mr. Repke would tell people in his district when asked what
they should do with their yard waste if there were no Ramsey County yard waste facility?
Mr. Repke replied that he is a strong supporter of the Ramsey County yard waste site,but that
in the future they may have to change the shape of the facility so that the view is protected.
Maybe some screening, fencing, or berms would have to be added. The question is not what
would happen if the yard waste facility were not there, but whether it should be a conforming or
nonconforming use under the zoning code.
Commissioner Gordon asked if it was permitted with a conditional use permit, couldn't that be
used to address all of the concerns that were just addressed?
Mr. Repke stated that Ramsey County is thinking about what the future impact could be.
Commissioner Anfang asked if leaving it as a conditional use and having the ability to continue
to work with Ramsey County on changes to the conditional use permit wouldn't address some
of these concerns.
Mr. Repke stated that it came down to consistency.
5. Ms. Mary Benton Hummel, 1199 Seventh Street, Saint Paul,Mn 55106. There are pros and
cons of living close to the yard waste site, and it can get pungent at times in the summer,but
she is a gardener and would like it to stay there. Ms. Benton Hummel also asked if the
commission honestly feels that making the Phalen/Atlantic area the gateway to industrial
development rather than the gateway to Lake Phalen is going to improve the experience of the
people wanting to live in Phalen Village?
6. Mr. Curt Milburn,Phalen Corridor Project Director, 506 Kenny Avenue,Saint Paul,Mn 55101.
Mr. Milburn praised PED and the Port Authority for working together to figure out how this
zoning could work. The yard waste site is a resource for this community and there is no
proposal to relocate it. The vision for the East Side is jobs,however, and if another location for
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the yard waste facility could be found,this site could be used for redevelopment that brings
jobs. It is necessary to take the time to work with Ramsey County to look for a new location
for the yard waste site so that the vision of East Side jobs can be realized.
Commissioner Anfang asked how the discussions between Mr. Milburn's Board and the
County Commissioners are progressing regarding the yard waste site.
Mr. Milburn stated that Commissioners Rettman and McDonough position has been very clear,
but that conflicts are inevitable on projects as big as the Phalen Corridor Initiative. Phalen
Corridor has worked because its partners work together cooperatively to propose compromises.
Commissioner Gordon asked if there are specific sites on the East Side that would work for a
yard waste facility and if so, have the locations been communicated to the County?
Mr. Milburn stated a few sites had been discussed, but so far there are issues on every site.
Two of the sites are pollutes, and one other site is maintained by another government agency.
Commissioner Gordon asked if the current site was permitted as a conditional use, would that
prevent Mr. Milburn from working with Ramsey County. If in the future a better site were
found, could it be moved if both parties agree?
Mr. Milburn responded that staff could continue to consider alternative sites for the Ramsey
County yard waste facility whether the site was a conditional or nonconforming use.
7. Mr. Mike Karas, 7560 Babcock Trail, Inver Grove Heights,Mn 55077 in reference to the
property at 940 Atlantic, Saint Paul,Mn 55106. The Karas brothers purchased the land after
talking with the City to make sure it was still zoned for their use. Then the permit process
started and they met all the criteria after eight months. The brothers received a letter informing
them of the moratorium, which meant that there were no longer any permits being granted. The
Karas brothers have spent in excess of$70,000.00 trying to get this approved,which included
purchasing a metal building. They met with City officials and were told that there were no
foreseeable problems with obtaining the permit, and they bought the metal building to be put on
the property. The brothers met with a City Planner and the City Attorney and were told that
they had met all the criteria. The Karas brothers were not able to get the permit to actually put
the metal building on the property. What they are now looking for is the ability to complete
their project.
Chair Johnson asked Penny Simison who the planner was, and it was Tom Beach from LIEP.
Commissioner Alton asked Penny Simison, if the property is rezoned to IR and once the
moratorium ends would this proposed use not be permitted?
Penny Simison answered that no, it would not be permitted.
Commissioner Alton asked in looking at permitted uses in an IR district and the list of
industrial uses, would this be categorized as a recycling processing center, out door?
Penny Simison stated that the building was intended to store the roll-off containers inside. The
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type of pole barn building that was proposed to be put on the property would not be permitted
under both the plan amendment and the proposed IR zoning.
Commissioner Alton asked if they redesigned the building,would it meet the design guidelines.
Commissioner Alton stated the problem could not be solved today but wants to understand the
guidelines.
Penny Simison explained the guidelines of the code amendments.
Chair Johnson requested Penny Simison and Tom Beach to work with Mr. Karas and Mr. Mark
Zaspel on this matter,to see if there way to resolve this.
8. Mark Zaspel, 6371 Baker Avenue, Inver Grove Heights,Mn 55077. Mr. Zaspel did not speak
on behalf of the property, at 940 Atlantic, Saint Paul,Mn 55106. Mr. Zaspel thanked the
Committee for their help and following through,to see if it can possible be resolved.
9. Monte Hilleman, from Port Authority, 1900 Landmark, 245 St. Peter Street, Saint Paul,Mn,
55102. Thanked the City staff and Commissioners who worked on this Task Force. The new
IR zoning provides both this area and the whole city with a zone that encourages high quality
design and job creation. This zoning would protect other businesses investments in these
neighborhoods by enhancing quality of life issues.
10.Diana Hamilton, representing Pastor Hamilton's Barbeque, St. John's Church of God in
Christ,1150 E. Seventh Street, Saint Paul,Mn 55106. Ms. Hamilton asked if there are any
anticipated changes foreseen for the other side of Seventh Street.
Penny Simison responded that staff on the East Team of PED are now discussing the next phase
of the Phalen Corridor on the East side. They have some ideas about how to approach the area
south of Phalen Boulevard excluding both sides of Seventh Street and all the residential area
south of East Seventh, including middle section south between the Hamm's brewery and 3M
off of Arcade and Minnehaha.
MOTION: Commissioner McCall moved to close the public hearing, but to keep the record
open for written testimony until noon, Friday,January 13, 2006, and to refer these three agenda
items to Neighborhood& Current Planning Committee for further consideration. The motion
carried unanimously on a voice vote.
V. Zoning Committee
Commissioner Morton gave the Zoning Committee report.
OLD BUSINESS
# 05-206-212 Frank Ranallo—Conditional Use Permit to allow cluster development with 8
residential units. 1938 Nortonia Avenue, between Reaney and Minnehaha.
(Patricia James, 651/266-6639)
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MOTION: Commissioner Morton moved the Zoning Committee's recommendation to deny the
conditional use permit. The motion carried unanimously on a voice vote.
# 05-162-754 Environmental Wood Supply—Review of Conditional Use Permit. 2165 Pigs Eye
Lake Road, between CP rail yards and Metropolitan Waste Treatment Plant.
(Patricia James, 651/266-6639)
MOTION: Commissioner Morton moved the Zoning Committee's recommendation to extend
approval of the conditional use permit, and hold another review within 6 months. The motion
carried unanimously on a voice vote.
NEW BUSINESS
# 05-211-589 Park Midway Bank—Conditional Use Permit to allow construction of new office
and drive through with parking variance(38 spaces proposed; 41 spaces required)2304 Como
Avenue, SW corner at Doswell. (Patricia James, 651/266-6639)
MOTION: Commissioner Morton moved the Zoning Committee's recommendation to approve
the conditional use permit. The motion carried unanimously on a voice vote.
Commissioner Morton announced the Zoning Committee Agenda for the February 2, 2006,
meeting.
VI. Guest presentation by Peter Brown and Bob Lux of Alatus Partners
Tentative developers of the Public Safety Building block, on their proposed 300-unit
high-rise residential project in downtown Saint Paul. Community perspective from
Larry Englund, Capitol River Council(District 17).
Mr. Larry Englund, Chair for the CapitolRiver Council/District 17. Mr. Englund
resides at 1162 College Avenue, Saint Paul, Mn, 55102. Mr.Englund gave a report on
the background of the Fitzgerald Park area. He applauded the Alatus team for working closely
with the community through many meetings to reach a design that has broad support.
Mr. Tom Dillion from Alatus Partners, gave some background on their experience with
downtown residential highrises;they built both the Grant Park and Carlyle developments in
Minneapolis.
Mr. Brown, Project Manager, gave a report and showed drawings of their proposed 300-unit
high-rise residential project in downtown Saint Paul on the Public Safety block,which saves two
facades of the historic Public Safety Building.
VII. Comprehensive Planning Committee
Larry Soderholm said the next meeting will be Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 4:00 p.m.
VIII. Neighborhood and Current Planning Committee
Commissioner McCall said the next meeting will be on Wednesday, January 18, 2006, at 8:30a.m.
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IX. Long-range Planning Committee
Jessica Rosenfeld announced their next meeting will be, on Thursday, January 19,2006, at 8:00
a.m.
X. Communications Committee
Commissioner Trevino announced the Annual Report for 2005 is in draft form and she anticipates
that it will be done for the Annual Meeting in two weeks.
XI. Task Force Reports
Commissioner Anfang announced the Mississippi River Critical Area Task Force, which has met
for a year-and-a-half,has held some weekly meetings and is having a subcommittee to try to
reach some recommendations about steep slopes and bluff regulations.
Chair Johnson announced the CIB and Planning Commission will meet have a joint meeting on
the CIB Process on Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 3:30 p.m. Commissioners Donnelly-Cohen,
Morton, and Kramer will be attending, and all Commissioners are welcome to join.
Commissioner Faricy announced the Nominating Committee will be meeting on Thursday,
January 19, 2006, at 3:00 p.m.
XII. Old Business
None
XIII. New Business
None
XIV. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 10:50 a.m.
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Recorded and prepared by
Kate Fleming,Planning Commission Secretary
Planning and Economic Development Department,
City of Saint Paul
Respectfully submitted, Approved 2-11
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Larry S erholm Su cCall
Planning Administrator Secretary of the Planning Commission
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