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89-1172 (4) m 4 • Cable TV Office - Room 730 City Hall KARE-TV - Jeanette Harrison - Press Room - 353 City Hall --KMSP-TV - 6975 York Ave.So. , Edina, MN. 55435 ---KSTP-TV - 3415 University Ave.W. , St. Paul , MN. 55114 WCCO-TV - Jim Leinfelder, 345 •Wabasha - St. Paul , Mn. 55102 - -Dick Meryhew, Mpls.Tribune-St. Paul Office, 255 N. Wabasha #275 - St. Paul , MN. 55102 —Tony Lonetree, Mpls.Tribune-St. Paul Office, 255 N. Wabasha #275 St.Paul ,Mn. 55102 �� ' �" Chamber of Commerce, 'q North Central Tower-445 Minnesota (�/-1 St. , St. Paul , Mn. 55101 -Berms-ice- Chada (Hsg.& B l dg.Code) - 894 E. Hyacinth - 55106 Du11 Chmiel , NSP - 414 Nicollet Mall , Mpls. , Mn. 55401 ---D. J. Munro - W. 7th Communications Center - 265 Oneida - 55102 Dh,trl Comm.Council , Ms.Ann Cieslak,C.O. , 2121 No. Park Drive - 55119 -Di -2 Comm.Council , Ray Sammons, C.O. , 2169 Stillwater Avenue - 55119 DI5t.3 Comm.Council , Ms. Darlene Schiller, C.O. , 209 W. Page, 55107 `EH-it:4 Comm.Council , Ron Wagner, 750 E. Seventh St.- 55106 Di3t.5 Comm.Council , Pat Rife,C.O. , 1075 Arcade St. - 55106 BiSt.6 Comm.Council , Ms. Sharon Voyda, C.O. , 1021 Marion - 55117 —Di - :7 Comm.Council , Ms. Sharon Mika, C.O. , 379 University Ave.W.- Suite #201 55103. -O-'rst-8 Comm.Council , Mr. Greg Finzell , C.O. , 7 - Dtst.9 Comm.Council , Ms. Betty Moran, C.O. , 265 Oneida - 55102 55104 71-0 Comm.Council , Ms. Kay Woitas, C.O. , 1298 N.Pascal , Rm. 100 - 55108 D.i-st. 11 Comm.Council , Ms.Susan Marshalk,C.O. , Bit-'1-2 Comm.Council , Ms. Roberta Me ard,Po 1558 W. Minnehaha - 55104 Dist.43 Lex-Hamline Comm.Council , Ms. Meredith 14 Selby Ave. - 55104 --Brtst-rl-3 Merriam Park Comm.Council , Ms. John Vaughn, C.O. , 2000 St. Anthony Ave. - 55104 D` _13- Snelling-Hamline Comm.Councii , Mr. Ed Bower, C.O. , 1573 Selby, Room 319 - 55104 -e1-st-4-4 Comm.Counci1 , Ms. Kathie Tarnowski , 45 Highland Area Community Council , Ms.OMichelle Lichtig, C.O.55105 790 S. Cleveland, Suite 208-B - 55116 DiA. 116 Summit-Hill Association, Ms. Chris Trost, C.O. , 745 Grand Ave. #101 , St. Paul , Mn.. %55105 omm.Countil , Downtown Com.Dev.Council , Ms. Mary Krueger, C.O. , 245 E. 6th St. , Suite 101 - 55101 . .Ms. Sally Czgan - Payne-Minnehaha Community Council - 683 DeSoto St. , St. Paul , Mn. 55101 `St -!?au1 Area Board of Realtors - 325 E. Roselawn Ave. - 55117 -Bob Fletcher, 1671 Blair Avenue - 55104 tau-E.Shaffer,Project Co. Supv. , Continental Cable Co. ,4 E. 4th S St. Pa 1 , 5 0 Union Depot, Kern, exec, a �- Hazelwood St. - 55106 au g. & Doling Dealers Assn. , 808 --Diane DuBay, Minnesota Women's Press, 2395 University Avenue, Suite 215 - 55114 "l'-Dr_isro11 - 1450 Lincoln Avenue, St. Paul , MN. 55105 Rita Hathaway, Channel 11 , Suite 100 Amhoist Tower - 55 W. 4th St. 55102 - _, District Energy St. Paul , Inc. , W Y nolfson, District Energy, 76 W. Kellogg Blvd. - 55102 9Y+ 76 W. Kellogg Blvd. - 55102 Birth, BOMA, 386 N. Wabasha, Suite 645, St. Paul , Mn. 55102 — d-t. Gates, 215 So. Eleventh St. , Mpls. , MN. 55403 CAAP, 8-46 State Capitol , St. Paul , MN. 55155 —4em-.-W8.1na,Dir. ,Neighborhood Energy Consortium, 2429 University Ave. , - 55114 — eter—Triorson, Opperman 8 Paquin, 100 Washington Avenue So. , Mpls. 55401 MINUTES COMMITTEE REPORT City Council Members Lorraine Anderson, Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office City Attorney (Jane McPeak) (should have as many Al Olson copies as there are Ed Warn items acted on for Don Nygaard that day) Tom Eggum Copy Councilmembers Dan Dunford also and Chris Nicosia Janet Wigfield, Gene Schiller Cable Office John McCormick Janet Wigfield AGENDA ITEMS RECEIVED FROM: Doris Lesny (Valuations) - 5125 Public Works Staff Other Valuation Staff Referred by City Council COMPLETE SET OF COPIES OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE FOR THE MEETING GOES TO: Councilmember Tom DiM6nd Councilmember Janice Rettman Chris Nicosia John McCormick Bruce Hoheisel Roger's copy of everything goes in the Public Works black book. There are labels made up for those to be mailed out. (12) L ST ANTHONY PARK COMMUNITY CC ATTENTION CHAIRPERSON 890 CROMWELL SAINT PAUL MN 55114 (12) (12) (12) DISTRICT PLANNER EDITOR ST ANTHONY PARK LIBRARY MARV BUNNELL PARK BUGLE 2245 COMO AVE 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX P 0 BOX 8126 COMO STATION SAINT PAUL MN 55108 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55108 (13) (13) LEXINGTON HAMLINE COMMUNITY COUN LEXINGTON HAMLINE COMMUNITY MEREDITH STANKIEWICZ CO . CONSTANCE HILL PRESIDENT 1385 SELBY AVE 1173 ASHLAND AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (13) (13) (13) DISTRICT PLANNER MERRIAM PARK COMMUNITY COUNCIL MERRIAM PARK COMMUNITY COUNC NANCY FRICK JOHN VAUGHN CO MIKE LAUGHLIN PRESIDENT 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX 2000 ST ANTHONY AVE 1908 UNIVERSITY AVE W SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (13) (13) DESNOYER PARK IMPROVEMENT ASSN MERRIAM PARK LIBRARY JIM RAABE 1831 MARSHALL 2433 BEVERLY RD SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (13) (13, 14) (13) SNELLING HAMLINE COMMUNITY COUN EDITOR EDITOR MIKE CASEY PRESIDENT MERRIAM PARK POST EAVESDROPPER 1526 SELBY AVE 2000 ST ANTHONY AVE 1385 SELBY AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (13, 14, 16) (13, 14, 15, 16) EDITOR EDITOR GRAND GAZETTE HIGHLAND VILLAGER 757 SO SNELLING AVE 757 SO SNELLING AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55116-2250 SAINT PAUL MN 55116 (14) DISTRICT 14 COMMUNITY COUNC] ABBY STRUCK PRESIDENT 1830 JAMES AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55105 (14, 16) (14, 15) (14) GRAND AVE BUSINESS ASSN DISTRICT PLANNER MIMI MORTEK . REP HOWARD R ORENSTEIN ALLAN TORSTENSON 1422 ASHLAND AVE 521 STATE OFFICE BLDG 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (15) HIGHLAND AREA COMMUNITY COUP SCOTT BUNIN PRESIDENT 1658 RANDOLPH AVE (6) (.°, i, lug NORTH END IMPROVEMENT CLUB JOSEPH ZSCHOKKE SECRETARY REP C THOMAS OSTHOFF 87 ROSE AVE E 591 STATE OFFICE BLDG SAINT PAUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (6) LEA CITIZENS SO COMO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION 's JOHNSON SECRETARY LIZ OLSON 757 ORCHARD •AUR 'AUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55103 (6) (6) 4TH DISTRICT VFW DISTRICT PLANNER JEROME MICKUS LEGISLATIVE CHAIR DONNA DATSKO 1168 NO WESTERN 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (7) CAPITOL AREA ARCH PLNG BD GARY GREFENBERG • ROOM B46 STATE CAPITOL SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (7, 8, 16) (7) THOMAS DALE DIST 7 PLNG COUNCIL LEXINGTON BRANCH LIBRARY GREG RYAN ACTING PRESIDENT 1080 UNIVERSITY AVE 584 NO DALE ST • SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55103 13, 17) (7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13) MIDWAY CIVIC & COMMERCE ASSN 1DREW J DAWKINS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ATE OFFICE BLDG 475 CLEVELAND AVE NO SUITE 211 PAUL MN 55155 • SAINT PAUL MN 55104 1 (8) (8) SUMMIT UNIVERSITY PLNG COUNCIL DISTRICT PLANNER ALMA JOSEPH CHAIR ROGER RYAN 365 SUMMIT AVE 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 ./ ( (8) (8) iR ELLA G MAHMOUD EDITOR Q BROWN !Y HILL NEWS SUMMIT UNIVERSITY FREE PRESS 270 HALLIE IE QE BR ST FOLLY 1241 UPTON:AVE NO ' PAUL MN 55102 MINNEAPOLIS.MN 55411 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (8) (8, 13, 14, 16) to ST ANTHONY BLOCK CLUB NAACP REP KATHLEEN VELLENGA ;JNIVERSITY AVE W 270 NO KENT ST 549 STATE OFFICE BLDG C PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 16) (8) EY HILL ASSOCIATION ST PAUL URBAN LEAGUE BARD CHAIR WILLIE MAE WILSON ASNLAND'AVE 401 SELBY AVE ,• 1)nnr UJ ccio7 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 1.�1 J l v SELBY AVE COMMERCIAL CLUB J, 1-r _7 MERLE HARRIS SENATOR RICHARD J COHEN 909 SELBY AVE G27 STATE CAPITOL SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (8) BLACK MINISTERIAL ALLIANCE DENISE BEIGBEDER REVEREND JAMES BATTLE 301 LAUREL AVE 451 W CENTRAL SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (9) WEST 7TH STREET FEDERATION CASS WELCH PRESIDENT 265 ONEIDA ST SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (9) (9, 14, 15) DISTRICT PLANNER IRVINE PARK ASSOCIATION HIGHLAND PARK LIBRARY KEN MCCORMICK 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX 1974 FORD PKWY 40 IRVINE PARK SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55116 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (9) (9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16) (9) WEST 7TH BUSINESS & PROF ASSN SOUTHWEST SECTOR POLICE WEST 7TH TAAC DOROTHY G REDING CAPTAIN MIKE SMITH VI FRESHWATER 1332 HIGHLAND PKWY 1287 FORD PKWY 265 ONEIDA ST SAINT PAUL MN 55116 SAINT PAUL MN 55116 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (9, 15, 17) (9, 17) EDITOR COMMUNITY REPORTER MAGGIE SCHWICHTENBERG 265 ONEIDA ST 314 RYAN AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (10) DISTRICT 10 COMO COMMUNITY CC KAY WOITAS CO 1298 NO PASCAL ROOM 232 SAINT PAUL MN 55108 (10) (10, 11) (10, 11, 12, 13) DISTRICT 10 COMO COMMUNITY COUN EDITOR BOB MCELRATH CHAIR MIDWAY COMO MONITOR REP ANN L WYNIA 1375 MIDWAY PKWY 1599 SELBY AVE SUITE 23 459 STATE OFFICE BLDG SAINT PAUL MN 55108 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (10, 11, 12, 13) SENATOR JOHN L MARTY 235 STATE CAPITOL - • : ` • SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (11) DISTRICT 11 PLNG COALITION BERNIE BOMBERG PRESIDENT 1821 UNIVERSITY AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (11) (11) MIDWAY CONCERNED CITIZENS DISTRICT PLANNER DICK GUNDERSON LARRY SODERHOLM 1632 THOMAS AVE 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 1 (6) (b, I, 10) NORTH END IMPROVEMENT CLUB JOSEPH ZSCHOKKE SECRETARY REP C THOMAS OSTHOFF 87 ROSE AVE E 591 STATE OFFICE BLDG SAINT PAUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 6) (6) ICE AREA CITIZENS SO COMO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIC LANCHE JOHNSON SECRETARY LIZ OLSON S E ACKER 757 ORCHARD HINT PAUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55103 (6) (6) 4TH DISTRICT VFW DISTRICT PLANNER JEROME MICKUS LEGISLATIVE CHAIR DONNA DATSKO 1168 NO WESTERN 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (7) CAPITOL AREA ARCH PLNG BD GARY GREFENBERG ROOM B46 STATE CAPITOL SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (7, 8, 16) (7) THOMAS DALE DIST 7 PLNG COUNC LEXINGTON BRANCH LIBRARY GREG RYAN ACTING PRESIDENT 1080 UNIVERSITY AVE 584 NO DALE ST • SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55103 8, 13, 17) (7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13) MIDWAY CIVIC $ COMMERCE ASSN L4 P ANDREW J DAWKINS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR 'I STATE OFFICE BLDG 475 CLEVELAND AVE NO SUITE 21 INT PAUL MN 55155 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (8) (8) SUMMIT UNIVERSITY PLNG COUNCIL DISTRICT PLANNER ALMA JOSEPH CHAIR ROGER RYAN 365 SUMMIT AVE 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (8) (8) [TOR ELLA G MAI-iMOUD EDITOR 4SEY HILL NEWS SUMMIT UNIVERSITY FREE PRESS HALLIE Q BROWN ) HOLLY 1241 UPTON:AVE NO 270 NO KENT ST [NT PAUL MN 55102 MINNEAPOLIS MN 55411 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (8) (8, 13, 14, 16) tORA ST ANTHONY BLOCK CLUB NAACP REP KATHLEEN VELLENGA UNIVERSITY AVE W 270 NO KENT ST 549 STATE OFFICE BLDG :NT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 16) (8) ISEY HILL ASSOCIATION �T DAITT rroRnry r cn ,z liJ DISTRICT 1 COMMUNITY COUNCIL ROBERT JOHNSON PRESIDENT 418 BURLINGTON RD SAINT PAUL MN 55119 tll (1) SENATOR MARILYN M LANTRY DISTRICT PLANNER EDITOR 328 STATE CAPITOL DONNA DRUMMOND DISTRICT 1 NEWS 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX 2121 NORTH PARK SAINT PAUL KV 55155 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55119 (1, 4) (1, 2, 4, 5) EAST SECTOR POLICE (1) REP STEVE TRIMBLE CAPTAIN DON TROOIEN 491 STATE OFFICE BLDG SUNRAY BRANCH LIBRARY SAINT PAUL MN 55155 699 E SEVENTH ST SAINT PAUL MN 55106 S WIL SAI NT PAUL L MN 55119 (1, 2, 4, 5) (ALL) EDITOR ; DEPT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES EAST METRO COURIER KATHLEEN A STACK 1599 SELBY AVE ' 545 CITY HALL SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (2) (2) DISTRICT 2 COMMUNITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 2 COMMUNITY COUNCIL (2, 4, 5) RAY SAMMONS CO TINA MORELAND CHAIR EAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD DEV CO '169 STILLWATER AVE 1846 STILLWATER AVE MARY GRACE FLANNERY aAINT PAUL MN 55119 907 PAYNE AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55119 SAINT PAUL MN 55101 (2) (2, 5) EDITOR (2, 4) HAYDEN HEIGHTS LIBRARY EASTSIDER 1456 WHITE BEAR AVE REP RANDY KELLY SAINT PAUL MN 55106 909 PAYNE AVE 509 STATE OFFICE BLDG SAINT PAUL MN 55101 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (2) (2, 5) OOSEVELT RESIDENT COUNCIL (2) : KIM VOHS MR KARL NEID DISTRICT PLANNER 375 AMES 1181 DULUTH TOM HARVEY AINT PAUL MN 55106 SAINT PAUL MN 55106 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55102 STAR TRIBUNE (3) CHRIS ISON EDITOR 355 NO WABASHA SUITE 275 THE VOICE SAINT PAUL MN 55102 209 W PAGE ,/' SAINT PAUL MN 55107 3, 4, 9, 17) (3) (3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 13, 17) iP SANDRA PAPPAS RIVERVIEW BRANCH LIBRARY )3 STATE OFFICE BLDG 1 E GEORGE SENATOR DONALD M MOE INT PAUL MN 55155 SAINT PAUL MN 55107 309 STATE CAPITOL SAINT PAUL MN 55155 (3) WEST SIDE CITIZENS ORGANIZATION BRIDGET MARTIN PRESIDENT 333 W WYOMING ST SAINT PAUL MN 55107 (3) i DISTRICT PLANNER NANCY HOMANS 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN ccin? (4, 5) )AYTONS BLUFF COMMUNITY COUNCIL ACORN )EAN ANDERSON PRESIDENT SUE HUTCHINSON B68 EUCLID ST 757 RAYMOND AVE SUITE 206 SAINT PAUL MN 55106 SAINT PAUL MN 55114 (4, 5) (4) (4) EAST 7TH AREA BUSINESS ASSN DISTRICT PLANNER LRLINGTON HILLS LIBRARY DAVID FRANKE PRESIDENT LUCY THOMPSON 1105 GREENBRIER 800 MINNEHAHA AVE BLDG 525-3E-04 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55106 SAINT PAUL MN 55133 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (4, 5, 6) (4, 5, 6, 7, 10) (4) DAYTONS BLUFF NHS REP RICHARD M OCONNOR SENATOR EUGENE WALDORF SUZANNE JOSEPH DIRECTOR 393 STATE OFFICE BLDG 124 STATE CAPITOL 951 E FIFTH ST SAINT PAUL MN 55155 SAINT PAUL MN 55155 SAINT PAUL MN 55106 (4) EDITOR )AYTONS BLUFF DISTRICT FORUM 741 E SIXTH ST SAINT PAUL MN 55106-5121 (5) !rl (Cl )ISTRICT 5 PLANNING COUNCIL RITA ADAMS PRESIDENT 935 DESOTO ST SAINT PAUL MN 55101 �1i.ixSiN4's y.+i;:al l+Yt2a.dt�4 ey 2 z }lt,ya3i 1<��µ-y a _ _ • (5) lb) 1Z)) PAYNE MINNEHAHA COMMUNITY COUN PAYNE ARCADE BUSINESS ASSN CASE PAYNE COMMUNITY COUNCIL SALLY CYGAN SUZANNE PARISI RITA f STAN KOLODZIEJ 583 DESOTO ST 1000 PAYNE AVE 718 YORK AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55101 SAINT PAUL MN 55101 SAINT PAUL MN 55106 (5) TtA.A se-II 'Leo F Ud PASTOR STEVE RONNINGEN 11-1 V w�-�.�-etis L� 1214 EARL ST "`'I SAINT PAUL MN 55106 S - Po- , 144k) SS l S 5 , (6) DISTRICT 6 PLANNING COUNCIL SKIP SAJEVIC CHAIR 276 NO SNELLING AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (6) (6) LAND USE TASK FORCE EDITOR MARVON JOHNSON CHAIR NORTH END NEWS 115 JESSAMINE AVE W 1021 MARION ST SAINT PAUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55117 (6, 7) (6, 7) (6) NORTH END AREA REVITALIZATION NORTH END BUSINESS CLUB INC MIKE TEMALI MCDONOUGH RESIDENT COUNCIL ATTENTION CHAIR 926 RICE ST 1544 TIMBERLAKE RD P 0 BOX 17014 (ALL + 10) (ALL) DISTRICT PLANNER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISI' KEN FORD JERRY JENKINS C P COORDINATO: 1100 CITY HALL 'ANNEX 1420 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (ALT.) (ALL) STAR TRIBUNE JEAN HOFENSPERGER 355 NO WABASHA SUITE 275 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 krtLLf (AT T 1 DIVISION OF PUBLIC HEALTH JUDY BARR 555 CEDAR SAINT PAUL MN 55101 (ALL) k/1L L) CITIZEN SERVICE OFFICE PUBLIC INFORMATION/PED ROBERT,KESSLER DAVE HENNESSEY 179 CITY HALL 1300 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 �t1LL) (ALL) CITY PLANNING COMMISSION PORT AUTHORITY JAMES CHRISTENSON CHAIR JAMES TERRELL 2174 COMMONWEALTH ST 1900 LANDMARK TOWER SAINT PAUL MN 55108 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (ALL) (ALL) (ALL) EDITOR LEGAL ASSISTANCE OF RAMSEY C UNION ADVOCATE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS DRU OSTERUD 440 W MINNEHAHA 1010 UNIVERSITY AVE 46 E FOURTH ST SUITE 300 SAINT PAUL MN 55103 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55101 (ALL) (ALL) �••_ � HAMLINE MIDWAY COMMUNITY COUNCIL JAMES REID MERRILL ROBINSON 844 KENNETH ST 787NO_ FAIRVIEW SAINT PAUL MN 55116-2014 SAINT PAUL MN 55104 (ALL) (ALL) RAMSEY ACTION PROGRAMS ATTENTION RAP PLANNING DEPT NATIVE AMERICANS UNITED 509 SIBLEY 111 W BERNARD SAINT PAUL MN 55101 SAINT PAUL MN 55118 (ALL) (ALL) ST PAUL AMERICAN INDIAN CENTER ST PAUL AFL CIO TRADES $ LABOR LYLA JEAN STACEY JERRY SCRIBNER 341 UNIVERSITY AVE 411 MAIN ST SAINT PAUL MN 55103-2016 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (ALL) (ALL) (ALL) ST PAUL COUNCIL OF CHURCHES ST PAUL BLDG $ CONSTRUC TRADE ST PAUL B 0 M A EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BILL PETERSON WILLIAM A BUTH 1671 SUMMIT AVE 411 MAIN ST 386 NO WABASHA SUITE 645 SAINT PAUL MN 55105 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (1J) (is) DISTRICT PLANNER HIGHLAND PARK BUSINESS ASSN CHUCK MCGUIRE LEE ASHFELD PRESIDENT 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX 2004 FORD PKWY SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55116 (15) MONTREAL SOUTH ORGANIZATION HAROLD MASON SR 1861 MUNSTER AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55116 (1() SUMMIT HILL ASSOCIATION BRIAN ALTON CHAIR 908 GOODRICH AVE SAINT PAUL MN 55105 (16) DISTRICT PLANNER LISA FREESE 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55102 r1-" (17) (17) DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY DEV COUNCIL EDITOR CRAIG RAFFERTY CHAIR DOWNTOWNER 253 E FOURTH ST 372 ST PETER ST #304 SAINT PAUL MN 55101 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 11/J (17) (17) EDITOR DISTRICT PLANNER DOWNTOWN COUNCIL SKYWAY NEWS ALLEN LOVEJOY RONNIE BROOKS 200 BREMER BLDG 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX 600 NORTH CENTRAL LIFE TOWER SAINT PAUL MN 55101 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55101 (ALL) (ALL) ST PAUL PIONEER PRESS DISPATCH CITY COUNCIL RESEARCH TOM COLLINS GERALD STRATHMAN DIRECTOR 353 CITY HALL 703 CITY HALL SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (ALL) DEPT OF FINANCE $ MGMT SERVICES I EUGENE SCHILLER DIRECTOR 234 CITY HALL SAINT PAUL MN 55102 (ALL) DEPT OF PLNG $ ECONOMIC DEV KEN JOHNSON DIRECTOR 1300 CITY HALL ANNEX SAINT PAUL MN 55102 4 :( i. 7 T •L v i !� 3 �21�i1 J��;� .'�5 2 J �¢ H. ,; T)I T IC n p `; .u� 1375 M IBS, Y ?h i TY C rC }` �', ., 3i t l '' y.II;1 N'• f't wy,lt R°• o f k'zc:.•. ;l Y ' 7'<? 4� s At YCw;i � � Et�+x.. 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Date: July 13, 1989 Rick Person - Staff presentation by Public Works Debbie Meister - Co-Chair of the Saint Paul Citizens Solid Waste Task Force Mary Ayde - Co-Chair of the Saint Paul Citizens Solid Waste Task Force Frank Sherman - Elder Council Mary T'Kach - Neighborhood Energy Consortium Tom Glander - Supercycle Jack Cameron - Major Appliance Pickup Service, a subsidiary of Twin City Appliances Organizations in Favor of Organized Collection John Cairnes - Representing Saint Paul Refuse Incorporated Mike Hinz - St. Paul Refuse Incorporated Organizations Against Organized Collection James Gencauski - General Manager of Waste Management. Thomas Flynn - BFI Public for Organized Collection Paul Gilliland - 1409 McAfee Carol Andrews - District 14 Community Council • f Public Against Organized Collection Scott Johnson Jack Adler - 1311 Hillcrest Ave. St. Paul, MN 55116 Anne Pace - 1019 Burns Ave. Edward Nagle - 1689 N. Lexington Charles Baggs - 569 W. Orange General Policy Statements Frank Staffenson - St. Paul Environmental Health Manager Emil Swanson - Elder Council, St. Paul Citizen Solid Waste Task Member Letters against organized collection Gregory M. Pennella & Susan E. Clifford 722 Holly ave. St. Paul 55104 (291-8958) (letter) Mr. Robert R. Olson 811 E. Nebraska St. Paul 55106 (letter) Scott W. Johnson 2200 Norwest Center 90 South Seventh St. Minneapolis, 55402-3901 Jim Gencauski, General Manager, Waste Management - Blaine 10050 Naples St. NE Blaine, 55434 Letters in favor of organized collection St. Paul Refuse Incorporated (SPRI) (letter) Thomas H. Zoet 1247 Osage St. St. Paul 55403 Beverly Bergman Wickstrom & David K. Wickstrom 533 Otis Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55104 Other written testimony submitted Major Appliance Pickup Service Inc. 654 University Ave. W. St. Paul 55104 Leo Shattuck Rt.1 Box 10 Walnut Grove 56180 757p MINUTES PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT JULY 13, 1989 Chair Goswitz: This is a special meeting of the Public Works Committee, 7/13/89, 7:00 p.m. meeting. We will be holding a second meeting of the whole City Council in the daytime and the testimony and all the facts tonight will be recorded and written down and presented to all Councilmembers so they will have all information for the next one, which means you won't necessarily have to testify again if you don't want to. All the information will be transferred to that meeting also. First off, I would like to start with a few presentations from the people who have been working on this for some time. Staff presentation by Public Works, Mr. Rick Person. Good Evening, Rick. Rick Person: Thank you Mr. Chairman. My name is Rick Person. I work for the department of Public Works in the field of Solid Waste. I'm going to make a very brief statement. We have quite a long agenda, I see, quite a number of speakers. The Citizen's Solid Waste Task Force has submitted recommendations to the City and Solid Waste Management including the following key features: Organized collection of residential mixed solid waste; mandatory collection of mixed waste; volume-based pricing of residential refuse collection services; mandatory curbside recycling; and separate yard waste collection. Don Nygaard has forwarded a memo and report to you which restates and elaborates on many of these issues discussed in the Task Force report, all of which are related to organized collection. I have copies of these and I will leave these up here for anyone who might want one. The purpose of this meeting is to hear testimony and whether the City of St. Paul should organize residential refuse collection. Organized collection is a system which divides a city into refuse collection routes, or districts, and assigns a single hauler to each route. The primary purposes of organized collection are: 1) To reduce the number of trucks operating in a given street or alley to make the system more efficient; 2) To reduce litter and illegal dumping; 3) To prevent overlap or duplication of collection service areas; 4) To improve recycling convenience for the homeowner, thereby increasing participation; 5) To facilitate solid waste management tools such as mandatory refuse collection and to solve problems such as the impending yard waste disposal ban. After the City Council holds the public hearing, as is required under the State Waste Management Act, this general sequence of events should be followed: 1) Adopt the required resolution of intent to organize the refuse collection system. 2) Begin the required minimum 90 day planning period by identifying preliminary system options to be considered. Establish standards and criteria of service for an organized collection system. 3) Solicit proposals from refuse haulers concerning refuse collection system configuration. 4) Conduct a series of public meetings throughout St. Paul to discuss options, standards, criteria, and proposals with interested citizens and encourage their response and comments. 5) Evaluate the proposals considering all public comment or response. 6) Recommend any system changes to the Council for their consideration. 7) Implement adopted changes to the collection system. It is likely this process will take at least until the end of 1989 to complete, particularly the implementation phase and quite possibly continue on into 1990. That is the statement of the administration tonight. I could try to answer any questions you might have now or I will be available throughout the evening if any questions arise that I might be able to address. Chair: If anyone wants to ask questions of you, you'll be around for a while to answer them? Rick: Sure. Chair: I probably should have stated that first also, that as required on the Minnesota Waste Management Act we have to hold a couple of public hearings in order to start any system of controlled waste management. This is what we are doing. The purpose of this one is organized collection, and we are holding it now and held another one in the daytime and that's how we're qualifying under the management act. The steps we have to follow. OK Rick, thank you very much. Mr. Dimond? Tom Dimond: Maybe we should have him stay up here, in case we need him. 2 Chair: I would appreciate it if he would. Is Debbie Meister here, the co-chair of Solid Waste Task Force? Debbie Meister: Thanks for the opportunity to present before you. I have been in front of this group before, so I will be very brief. I know that in 1979 the City Council did look at organized trash collection and, for various reasons, were not able to continue with that, but the waste situation has changed drastically from that time, and I think that a lot of people who have been in opposition to organized trash collection at that time have really changed. Basically, that's because of the change in how we need to handle and must handle our waste. In 1980, the Waste Management Act was passed that said by 1990 no unprocessed waste could go to landfills. Since then there have been other state laws that have required separation of yard waste and various other ways to handle our waste. Organized trash collection is one way to help oversee that we are handling our waste correctly and that we are making our system more efficient and more cost- effective. Rick mentioned many of the points that I want to cover. One is wear and tear on alleys. I know in my alley personally I know of three different garbage haulers who service our area, and I'm not home very often, but in 1990 with separate collection of yard waste that would be a minimum of 6 trucks. Then you have your recycling truck, and it looks like we might have to have separate pick-ups for appliances that would just keep increasing the number of trucks that we do have going. Again, litter and illegal dumping, because of increased costs of solid waste, would be minimized with an organized trash collection. We have seen trash houses because it's estimated that 10 percent of the population in St. Paul per household in St. Paul don't have garbage collection at this point. An organized system would bring these people into the system and would help reduce the number of trash houses and again the illegal dumping. Organized trash collection would also help create a potential funding mechanism for other solid waste management techniques, such as yard waste collection or curbside recycling. It looks like the County will not be funding programs in the future, so the Council could look at ways to fund. With an organized trash collection, that could be possible. That's very briefly, points that I have been over before, so I just want to hold it to that, and if you have any questions, I would be happy to answer. Chair: I would appreciate it if you'd stay around too in case anybody wants a particular question from you. Mr. Long? Bob Long: Debbie, in the course of the Task Force Deliberations was there ever a cost- savings figure arrived at in cost savings to the home owner resulting from organized collection? Debbie: Ramsey County and Met. Council did a study, and I can't remember exactly the figures, but they did see a cost savings. At this point, we would hope to be just holding the costs down, because we know our disposal costs are rising so quickly. A more efficient system would just help to keep the costs down. 3 Chair: Thank you, Debbie. The next speaker, is Mary Ayde here? I guess she's not with us this evening. Then, Frank Scherman, from the Elder Council. This group, I want to tell you ahead of time, did a lot of work on this. Frank Scherman: Thank you. My name is Frank Scherman, and I live at 1971 Ashland Avenue. I am a member of the Merriam Park Community Council on the Board of the Merriam Park Community Center, Inc., and more importantly, I am a member of the Elder Council of the City of St. Paul, which is a research and advisory group to you members of the City Council. As co-chair of the Elder Council's committee on mandatory trash collection and recycling, I have attended numerous meetings of this group and was instrumental in writing the so-called final report of the committee adopted by the Elder Council and sent on to you people in December of 1985. That report, among other things, made a strong plea for the adoption of an organized collection system. After some changes in both the City Council and the Elder Council, that report was again submitted to you by letter of transmittal on March 9 of this year. As part of that letter of transmittal, I wrote "It is the feeling of the Elder Council and its committee that despite their age, the attached reports contain a wealth of procedural possibilities that are most apropos to this most complex problem." It is with a feeling of pride that we note that the St. Paul Citizens Solid Waste Task Force, appointed by the Mayor, on page 33 of its final report, gives considerable credit to the Elder Council, which recommended "In 1985 that St. Paul adopt residential organized collection by means of a negotiated contract for mixed solid waste." As a part of our plan, our committee recommended, just as a very small part of it, that the City of St. Paul would be divided into pick-up districts and some suggestions have been at the planning department, the department of Public Works, or others could easily do this or may be in possession of such maps at the present time. The haulers, either through an existing organization, or one to be formed, should contract with the City, or vice versa, to make pick-ups of household waste in such a manner that there will be only one truck pick-up each week and each alley or on each street if there is no alley. Emil Swanson, who is present here tonight, is a member of the Mayor's Task Force, and he and I have attended some of the meetings of that group and we were pleasantly surprised and heartily endorsed an outline plans submitted by Mike Hinz, also a member of the Task Force, and owner of Gopher Disposal, which plan contains many of the suggestions we made in December of 1985 and likewise calls for a system of organized collection. In view of the past, not all rosy history in the matter of organized collection in the City of St. Paul, I wish you luck and success in instituting a system of organized collection. A system which may work much better in the future after studying the mistakes of the past. Thank you. Chair: Thank you very much, Frank. Does anybody have any questions now of Frank? Ms. Rettman? Janice Rettman: Mr. Chair, twofold. One, I was here the other night when the Mayor was having his budget hearings and didn't you give a speech where we identified your tie as really good? This is a good one too. Secondly, very seriously, it was really funny because the Mayor had given him his tie. It was cute. But secondly, wasn't one of the discussion items to get to the smallest volume base so that it had a graduated level of 4 pick-ups, i.e., for the household. There might be singles or retired people who have very limited trash, so to speak. To get it to the lowest common denominator so that you would have a graduating part? Frank Scherman: I can't remember, I think that is part of the report itself. Janice: Do you still stand behind that? Frank: Yes. Chair: Anybody else? Alright, the next person in line would be Neighborhood Energy Consortium, Mary TKach. Mary T'Kach: Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the committee. My name is Mary TKach. I am a staff person for the Neighborhood Energy Consortium in St. Paul. We are responsible for the majority of the curbside recycling programs as well as the multi- family recycling programs in St. Paul. Basically, the NEC Board of Directors, when they first heard about the organized collection hearing we're having tonight, decided that they wanted to take both the Task Force report which they are currently prioritizing and working on that, as well as this subject, and take it back to their district councils for discussion and comment so that it will come back to our board and we can make a decision whether or not the Energy Consortium supports or doesn't support or is going to stay neutral on this whole thing. What we're looking for is a decision by August or September, and it looks like we will have another opportunity to come back to this body or the whole council with what the development is among our board members. Generally, there is a consensus among our board members that we do want a coordinated effort for solid waste in St. Paul. We think the Task Force report has a lot of very good points in it and things that have already been spoken tonight, so I won't go into those. The benefits of organized collections, we're looking to see that there is a very coordinated effort and we feel like recycling is already organized in St. Paul, which is legal under the Waste Management Act and we would just ask that we have an opportunity to comment also on the letter from the Director of Public Works dated July 5th, our board is interested in commenting on that as pertains to recycling. Most of our comments will come later. Chair: Mr. Long? Bob Long: Mary, I know you can't speak on behalf of the whole board, because they haven't taken position, but with your expertise in the area of curbside recycling, in your opinion, would organized collection in the city enhance or improve a recycling program possibly and maybe participation in it is the way you view it? Mary T'Kach: Not necessarily. The way we view it in looking at other cities in the country is that unless you have weekly collections of recycling with the same day's garbage collection, then you will see some increased participation. But that's a very costly program. What we're looking at is the opportunity to stay with twice a month pickup going to containers, offering more incentives ,volume-base pricing, those kinds of 5 things may bring is more bang for our buck. If we had weekly collections same day as garbage, yeah, you'll see improvement, but you're going to pay for it. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, follow-up. Mary, is it the idea of same day collection, is that easier accomplished with an organized system versus our current open system? Could we do it better if we had an organized system to schedule our pickups? Mary T'Kach: Yeah, we can't even do same-day now because there's 7 garbage haulers on one street and the recycling truck has to come down on the same day. The garbage haulers come down on different days. With the organized collection, again, if you had weekly, if you still have every other week with recycling, then people still need a calendar to remember which week is recycling and which one isn't, so it doesn't matter then what day it is as far as what we've seen in the rest of the country. Bob Long: Thank you. Janice Rettman: Mr. Chair, procedurally, we have 90 days after we adopt a resolution if indeed we adopt a resolution of intent. There would be a minimum of 90 days when it would go back to the district councils, things like this, have citizen meetings, then we would have it back in to then make a decision on which plan and then go further. Is that correct? Chair: Right. It's a long time involved in the process. Janice Rettman: So you've got plenty of time and so do the other residents of St. Paul and district councils. Chair: Thank you, Mary. Are you going to stay around too in case anyone wants to ask you? OK, thank you. Next speaker is Tom Glander, from Super Cycle. Tom Glander: Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Tom Glander, I am vice president of Super Cycle, and my comments really pertain to the operation of the curbside recycling program as they may be effected by the program being considered. My suggestion is that you do keep recycling outside of the organized collection being considered, and again I will reiterate what Mary said and that is that I do believe that the recycling in the city now is already organized. I will also say that I do believe that the Energy Consortium has done some very unique things with the program in St. Paul, that aren't being done elsewhere in the nation. I think examples of the grass roots support of the program, the fact that there are 3,000 sign volunteers in the City of St. Paul. I think the fact that 700 of them will turn out for the appreciation picnic last Saturday is an example of the level of support that this program now has among your residents. I would also say that the relative low cost of this program compared to other major metropolitan areas and compared to other cities in this area also reflects the hard work that the Energy Consortium has put into it. I think the quality of service to the residents reflects that and also the commitment, energy and creativity which the Energy Consortium is invested in demonstrated in this program are examples of why they should continue to have the control and authority to grow the 6 program. I do ask that you keep that control and authority with them. Thank you. Chair: Thank you very much, Tom. Anybody have questions? Thank you. I hope you stay around too, Tom. Jack Cameron, Major Appliance Pick-up Service? Jack Cameron: Thank you Mr. Chairman, members. I appreciate the opportunity to make a few comments. My comments are mostly related to the area of appliances, old appliances, used appliances, that type of thing. I am president of the Major Appliance Pickup Service and Twin Cities Appliances located at 654 University Avenue. We have been providing curbside collection of old appliances since 1976 for the metropolitan area. This year alone we'll pick up over 12,000 units in the city of St. Paul and close to 80,000 units in the metropolitan area. We are in the process of developing an appliance recycling center, in cooperation of the Metropolitan Council, into shredding these items. It's our feeling that appliances should be collected separately and recycled. There is many reasons for that. One is that we're running out of landfill space. If appliances are allowed to be mixed into municipal solid waste stream in packers, once they're compacted they are not really recycled any more. They have to be landfilled. They do not burn very well, they do not go through the RDF plant very well. We feel they should be collected separately. Collecting them separately, they can be recycled or reused. We presently reuse about 10 percent. We resell and rebuild them at Twin City Appliances. The other 90 percent are shredded at North Star Steel and the materials are being reused in the steel plant. There is some environmental reasons. I noticed that we are competing against John Denver tonight who is in Minneapolis, but you got me here, and the other people. Anyway, the PCB issue came up about 2 years ago. We presently are now handling those in an environmentally sound manner. We remove those and we destroy those at high temperature incineration by sending them off with Atlas is the company that we use. There is another issue that is coming up, and it could be legislated in the next couple years, the Montreal Protocol. You might be familiar with it. They have asked for a ban on chlorofluorocarbons by the year 2000. Freon is in refrigerators, and we are now presently recapturing and reusing freon. While the amount of freon that we release in the atmosphere alone this year will probably be over 30,000 pounds of freon. As you know, that effects the ozone layer. We are in the process of now recapturing that and reusing it. We are presently doing that. We are trying to stay ahead of legislation. There are many reasons why appliances should be collected separately. I think it can be done less expensively and I think it can take a burden off of the haulers, because their trucks are not designed to handle appliances, and the recycling organizations, such as Super Cycle and other people who are collecting items are not really equipped to handle appliances. They are sort of in-between items. We specialize in that so maybe it's self-interest that I am speaking, but I do believe that appliances should be collected separately and recycled and not landfilled and the environmental issues of it should be taken into consideration. I have some handout material that I could pass out if you need. Chair: Could I ask you a couple questions before you leave that microphone. What was your address on University Avenue? Jack Cameron: 654 University Avenue. 7 Chair: You pick up major appliances. Do you charge people for picking up major appliances, or do you pick them up free, or what? Jack Cameron: No, we charge. Chair: Do you have a varying charge according to size, or appliance, or how does it work? Jack Cameron: We pick up washers, dryers, stoves, refrigerators, freezers, window air conditioners, dishwashers, compactors, residential furnaces, those type of metal items, household appliances and we charge general. For St. Paul it's $15.00 an item. In the outlying areas, it's $20.00. And their contract to haulers, we can negotiate a better rate. Chair: I sure hope everybody here gets the phone number because I have seen a lot of appliances standing around people's yards and all I have to do is give this gentleman $15.00 and he'll pick them up. Jack Cameron: One of the problems with appliances is they don't lend themselves to the regular collection because the average household will get rid of probably anywhere from 6/10 - 8/10 of an appliance per year. So in the city of St. Paul, you have 110,000 households, you're disposing of about 80,000 - 90,000. It's hard to get rid of 8/10 of an appliance. It works out to be about 8/10 of an appliance per year per household. So out of 110,000 households there is approximately 80,000 - 90,000 appliances per year. We'll collect about 12,000 so we're doing about 12 - 13 percent of the business now. The rest of it is split between all the other haulers and other appliance dealers and other people. A lot of it is getting landfilled, a lot is going to be RDF plan, some of it is getting recycled. We feel it should all be recycled. The freon should be recaptured. The freon issue is a . . there's two reason's on the freon. One is the ozone layer. The other is a practical problem. They're cutting back the production and everybody in this room, every organization, this town is going to have a very difficult time in the future, in getting freon for the air conditioners, for the hospitals, for the cars, for the offices and so forth. Also, one other recommendation I would like to make, if they do legislate that freon must be removed before you destroy your refrigerator, that I would like to see the state, the city or the county say that if at all possible, if available, that the city should use recycled freon instead of new freon. That would help generate some interest in people recycling freon, such as ourselves, and would also create a market for us. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to go on and on. Chair: That's fine, that's the kind of information we like to hear from people. Along with all the stuff we're going to try and recycle in the future, that's great. That will be a big help. Jack Cameron: By the way, the appliances weigh about 200 pounds so the amount of landfill space that we have saved alone this year, if we take what we've picked up, calculate the cubic footage, and extend it to acre feet, we alone this year will save 5 acre 8 feet of landfill space, on the appliances that we alone recycle. Chair: Mr. Long? Bob Long: Mr. Chair, just a couple questions. That is fascinating. I didn't realize it was that kind of volume. How long a time would a homeowner or resident have to wait from the time they would call to the time you'd come out and pick it up? Jack Cameron: It's next day service. You call today, we're there tomorrow. Bob Long: Back on the whole question of organized collection. You're really not taking position on that one way or the other. You're just saying that if we move in some direction of organized collection, that appliances should be somehow treated as a separate category so that can be best handled, whether it's in an organized system or not. And you can live with either system, depending on as long as they dealt with it properly. Jack Cameron: That's right. I'm not supporting organized collection. I know nothing about it. I'm a used appliance guy. Chair: How about the large-sized TVs. You pick those up too? Jack Cameron: We only handle the metal items. White goods. Part of the reason that we can survive in collecting, you cannot pick up the appliances and recycle them for the scrap value. The cost of collection is too high. What we do is we pick off 10 percent of that which is rebuildable and we retail those as used appliances, and that's where we generate most of our revenues. The revenues from our used appliances actually offsets the cost of collection. But I was forced into having to deal with the disposable appliances two years ago because of the PCB issue. That's why I decided that if I'm going to have to be in that business, I might as well do it right. The next thing is the state and the county have required that I do it right because now that I'm pulling capacitors, which contain PCBs, Ramsey County has required me to get a license so I'm now a hazardous waste generator. Chair: Are you incinerating them yourself or are you having North Steel do it? Jack Cameron: No, we are on a contract to Atlas. They are owned by Westinghouse and the materials are sent to Kansas and they are high temperature incineration. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, one other question. Mr. Cameron, depending, on how this thing comes out, but if we ultimately had some regulation requiring that appliances be picked up by a regular licensed recycling operation versus a trash hauling operation, could your operation handle the volume of appliances in St. Paul, for instance, that are now being picked up through other means? Jack Cameron: Yes, we could. We presently run 20 trucks now through the metropolitan area. Our schedule is actually the more pickups we have, the more 9 PR—c; / efficient we are, because our routing is better. Costs would go down. I am interested in expanding our collection services. Thank you. Chair: Thank you very much for your information. I would appreciate one of your handouts. Jack Cameron: I have some materials. Chair: Ms. Rettman? Thank you sir. I see another person has come in since we went by her on the list Mary Ayde. You want to come up and say a few words? Bob Long: Mr. Chair, we should comment that Mr. Cameron even prints his handouts on recycled paper. That's nice. Nice to get those rather than the glossy ones. Mary Ayde: Hi, Mr. Goswitz, and councilmembers. I really am not prepared to make any comments except that I am just glad to see you having hearings so people get a chance to respond to the Task Force report. Chair: See, that wasn't so bad, was it? Mary Ayde: No, I didn't think it would be. Bob Long: Mary, while you're standing up there, you're co-chair, obviously, in the Task Force report recommended organized collection, but you're also recognized as an expert in Minnesota on trash hauling and with the haulers and, in your own personal professional recommendation or opinion, would it make sense for us to move towards organized collection in St. Paul? Mary Ayde: If I used my husband's experience in the business, I'd have to say that to implement stronger programs of any kind, if you're the only hauler in the given area or district, or part of the city, it's easier to do because you're the only one there. And it is easier to get the people to respond. That's just a personal comment. Chair: Thanks, Mary. The next item on our list is going to be for an organization that is in favor of organized collection, John Cairns, representing St. Paul Refuse, Inc. Did I pronounce that right, John? John Cairns: Yes sir, good evening. Mr. Chair and members of the committee. There's a modest change in the spelling, but the pronunciation is correct. It's Cairns. I'm with the Briggs & Morgan law firm, and I am counsel to SPRI. I would like to if I could yield a moment or two of my time here, Mr. Chairman, Michael Hinz is one of the 4 or 5 interim directors of the board to comment about who SPRI is and I would like to make a few short remarks and answer questions, if any. Chair: Alright, thank you. Identify yourself, sir. Michael Hinz: I am Michael Hinz. We appreciate the opportunity to come before you. 10 I represent myself, a firm called Gopher Disposal. I was one of the original members of the Ramsey County Solid Waste Advisory Committee that developed a massive plan for which I don't want to take any credit, in case there are any problems with that. It's been revised a number of times. I was also a member of the St. Paul Citizen's Task Force that helped develop the document you have in front of you. The organization that I am a temporary board member, SPRI, was formed very recently in order to respond as a group, have the haulers in St. Paul respond as a group to the recommendations of the Task Force. That's our reason for being here tonight. We want you to know that as a group, the haulers are very willing and anxious to go forward with the city if that's the city's desire to investigate all avenues that might be open to them to put together and implement an organized system of solid waste and the City of St. Paul. We really feel it is time for the city to move forward to a total waste management system that will be responsive to all the needs of the citizens in the area of yard waste, household waste, possibly in the future, hazardous waste, etc. We're just here tonight to tell you that we support the recommendations of the Task Force and we're very anxious to go forward and work with you toward that end. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Mike, how many haulers does SPRI represent? Michael Hinz: We have letters of commitment from 39 out of 40 licensed haulers that we identified as residential haulers. There are more licensed haulers in the City of St. Paul. We're in the process also of contacting all licensed haulers in the city of St. Paul. It has come to our attention that there are some commercial haulers that also serve multi-family units that may have an interest in this also. Bob Long: Mr. Hinz, you haven't yet talked to the commercial people, you're just talking about residential haulers right now? Michael Hinz: That's right. With that, I'll turn back to John. Chair: Just a minute. What organization, what company was that? Michael Hinz: SPRI, St. Paul Refuse, Inc. Chair: What was your company? Michael Hinz: Gopher Disposal. Chair: P. 0. Box 6, Newport, MN, 55055, is that what it is? John Cairns: You might be interested in seeing who are the haulers. There are a number of the members here today, maybe they could all stand up for a second, you guys could all see who these folks are. This is a portion of our representation. Just as a little background. We have followed a course through our members and more recently through the document itself, the Advisory Task Force report, another of our members, John Linn, was on that report also on that Task Force . . We generally are available to help you move towards those ends. We find that general direction to be a good one. 11 We are also, of course, quite sensitive to the effective recycling program you have in St. Paul. I think we can work towards an effective coordination of these program, we'll do that. We'll have as many discussions as are necessary with the community councils NEC, and so forth. We hear your questions about volume-based pricing. In fact, I think most of our members already have in many municipalities and to some degree here in St. Paul some variation of that as a brand new system that's hard to say exactly what the right way to do it is. That's part of this whole process of trying to figure it out. The last thing we would bring to you in this case a little bit more of my own experience having started in fact this very week twenty years ago on the City Council of an adjacent of a not-to-be-named city here. It was twenty years ago this week that I had my first meeting on that. I have had the experience of negotiating the contracts in Minneapolis and in Champlin and in several other municipalities and we think properly done is the city is moving along here it is a very effective way to do something you all want to do, which is have an effective system. We're available as needed as you request, when we're asked and the right time frame here what our specific ideas might be. I am sure we'll be able to come to you with some ideas and we'll look forward to cooperating in any way we can to bring this to a successful conclusion. With that, I'll stop and I'll be glad to field questions. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, one question either for Mr. Cairns or Mike. Do I gather from your comments that if, as a policy matter, we made a clear decision to keep the recycling separate from the organized collection part of it that this group would still support that approach, even if we had separate recycling pickup arrangement like we currently have through NEC? John Cairns: We take that as a given. We assume that and we assume that one of our challenges together, not just the haulers, that we work on that day-to-day now because our haulers are members of service to people in your city are residents for many, many years. You took the personal years of experience and this business among our members it would be quite a large number. So our members are working informally on that now and I think on the whole we think a better and more coordinated system will be easily reached here and it's not our goal to do anything but to enhance that system. I think all the policies that encourage more recycling unless landfilling and such are our members of support to work with every day. Bob Long: Mr. Cairns, you mentioned the Minneapolis, at least I'm a little familiar with the MRI Consortium in Minneapolis, I've got two questions. One, has that been fairly successful in your opinion, and secondly, is that what SPRI envisions is a way of operating in St. Paul if that was the way we decided to go as a city? John Cairns: I have been and still am a resident of the city of Minneapolis so I use that system. We use experience from the past to for a couple months of change. A particular haulers who serviced our neighborhood was no change at all, so it does work very well. It will be slightly different because Minneapolis has had the city done by the Public Work force. There are certainly some lessons to be learned from the Minneapolis system. They have been through 20 years. I think most of the major mistakes have been done and been learned from and I think we bring to you now the 12 experience of a reasonable successful program, one that even recently was able to cope with a major shake-up in the recycling area which was somewhat less traumatic in St. Paul than it was in other cities because the effective way NEC handled it. On the whole I think there are some things to learn and I think that it will look something like it, of course, it may look more like Champlin, which is a system of a much smaller city but there, all the pickup is by private haulers. There are lessons to be learned there too. Chair: Ms. Rettman: Janice Rettman: Mr. Chair I was at the District 10 meeting the other night and one of the questions that was raised has to do with volume base and I appreciate your picking up on that that's going to be one of his concerns that I have consistently heard. If I was hearing it correctly, one of the concerns was that they were limited how much they could put out already. Their hauler would only take X-amount off rubbish. Some of the haulers had already made that decision on how many they could take, like two cans, or something like this. My question is twofold and I don't know maybe I'm not sure which of you should answer this, but what is the lowest volume base that is being discussed by the haulers. Secondly, and how would that crescendo out to address all of the concerns? John Cairns: I would be glad to have Mike speak to it, it's what he does in his company, but I want you to understand on this point, Councilmember Rettman, that the members of the group, we are not in the position yet to have that discussion as been proved in having attempted to have it. Really, we have 38, 40, 42 different ways of doing it. I am sure Mike may do it one way, his brother may do it another. Others may do it entirely differently. But it really depends on what your experience has been, and somewhere in there, there is a common ground, I think we can all meet, but we are not at the point yet nor have we had any discussions at all in that kind of detail. I can't tell you what might be an ultimate position from members of the whole. Mike, come up. Janice Rettman: Mr. Chair, that is one of the things that you will be doing as we are proceeding on this process you would be working on that in addition to Public Works working on that scenario. John Cairns: Sure, if the time comes when the city says and obviously we would urge you the get to that point where you said we would like to actually negotiate a contract, it will be incumbent on us and the city and your staff to say this seems to be the better way to do it and actually I think it will end up with several different options for people to choose from which is a portion I think an ideal system because people can manipulate within it themselves. Mike, would you like to comment? Michael Hinz: I would just like to reiterate that up to this point, and John spoke the issue really, we've talked about concept only. However, we're excited and anxious to get at the real nuts and bolts of it and that's one of the main issues. Janice Rettman: The reason why I bring it up is I think that when people hear about this, the first thing that comes to mind, that I have heard from people, is, oh my goodness, the cost is going to go up so much because regardless of whether or not I 13 have one bag or 50 bags the cost will go up and all of this, and how are we going to manage that as part of the it. That's what hits them at home. They've gotten very used to all of you doing a good job coming to their home and taking care of them. And so they have the personal relationship with their haulers. And so if you're going to give up that there is a threshold that I am hearing and I think all of us are hearing and I think I've heard all of you say the same thing and I think that is what we have to keep on bringing up consistently through all of the hearings, because they think that is one of the major concerns of a volume based concept and the mandatory pickup, the mandatory element of this. That's why I won't bring it up too much more tonight, unless I have to. But it's one of those major items with people. Michael Hinz: I think that's very true and the next one right behind that or in front of it is what's it going to cost me? What am I going to save? I think it was Debbie who was talking about rates slightly. We have not gotten into that at this point, but I believe that her concept is right. We want to try & hold the line as much as possible. The more and more things we add to the waste stream or take away from the waste stream or services that we add increases our cost. This is one approach to take to try and hold that down. We're anxious to get at it. Tom Dimond: I think everybody, no matter what is determined, realizes that to handle waste, the cost of garbage is going to be more expensive. It just plain simply is so. In the past where we used to just dig a hole in the ground somewhere, go out and dump stuff in it without any concern as to what happened to it or how it leaked into the environment, or what happened to those PCBs just is gone. It's gone for good reasons, it no longer is legal to do so, and the cost of trying to recover the freon or properly handle the PCBs or make sure that when you do have landfills that do exist are lined and have pumps and monitors. The cost, even if we did absolutely nothing to this system of collection the cost is going to rise because the cost of handling waste in a safe manner is going to require that. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Mike, one other question that kind of gets to the point both you and Debbie have made. Clearly the costs of garbage collection is going up, so no one is claiming that someone's bill will be reduced, but in fact, given your knowledge of an organized system, would it be cheaper or less of an increase under an organized system than what it would be on an open system, do you think that's accurate? Michael Hinz: There has to be economies on our end when it comes to organized collection versus an open hauling system. The thing that I think Debbie was eluding to, which is a fact and Mr. Dimond was talking about, third generation landfills. Even with NSP, a high percentage of what they process goes to a landfill and when you start talking third generation landfills you are talking a lot more dollars than we are talking today so the impact on our rates is not necessarily collection, it is disposal. There is nothing we can do about that. We can help hold that cost down. Bob Long: Because there is cost savings on the collection side. Michael Hinz: That is correct, and that we have some control over. 14 Chair: Thank you very much, gentlemen, I appreciate your comments. Stick around in case anyone wants to ask you any more. The next organization is against organized collection, the first one, James Gencauski, general manager of waste management. James Gencauski: Mr. Chair, members of the committee, I am Jim Gencauski representing Waste Management. I would like to give you our comments on organized collection program as we seem to find here. Organized collection as we understand it is basically a joint venture between the city and a group of haulers who set a fee, agree on a fee, for refuse collection for a set period of time and then the city is divided up into smaller areas so each hauler is in a specific area. Now the goal of the city as we see it is to do two things: number one, to get efficiency, which you will; number two, to reduce costs. What we want to offer is something else, two other alternatives which do the same thing and do it a little bit differently. There are two other options we think are available to you. Number one, if the entire city were put out to bid, that would bring the lowest cost, would bring one hauler that would handle the whole city. The other is to franchise the city in two specific areas, be it into quadrants, fifths, sixths, eights, whatever the city should desire. As we see it, the position of organized collection as defined here will not provide the city with pricing leverage and will not guarantee the level of service. We are the largest member of the MRI Consortium in Minneapolis, but we feel that these other two ways will do a better job for the city. Under a bid system, this would not preclude or limit the number of entities to one as this joint venture does. It would be opened up the various joint ventures to various individuals to various organizations, and the low bidder would then get the contract for the whole city. Now should that be something the city does not desire, the area could be opened up to franchise, so that a hauler, be it large or small, a group of haulers could get together and bid a separate area of the city. In this way you've got a good check and balance system as far as pricing and service. Should a hauler in a specific area or group of haulers not be doing the job another one is, the pricing is different. You've got a good gage to see how the programs are working in various areas of the city. If you'll check California, Texas and Florida, this program has worked real well. That's something we work with real well, and it does a good job of keeping the price down and performs the most efficient way of picking up garbage that you can do. That's all I wanted to say. Chair: Under those system, what do they do, Jim, when they have one go out of business, does somebody open up the bids again? Jim Gencauski: If one hauler in a specific franchise service go out of business, yes. Chair: Everybody else gets to bid on that section, then. Jim Gencauski: In certain cases, I don't recall the city, there were five areas of the city. Because the city did not want one hauler, large or small, to get control of the whole city, he was limited to two specific areas. One hauler could not get more than two areas. This was a good check and balance system, there were some groups of haulers that went together to bid one area or two areas that were large companies that would bid an area and there were also large individual companies that would bid an area. That worked 15 real well. I would just like to offer those comments. I thank you for the time and if any questions I can answer. Chair: Just a moment. Mr. Long, a question? Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Mr. Gencauski, over in Minneapolis, you said you're the largest member of the MRI? Jim Gencauski: That's correct. Bob Long: Tell me, just because I don't know how it works. If in fact you're in that system, can you buy and sell routes over there within your designated area, is that right? Jim Gencauski: As I understand it, the only people that can buy the routes are people already in the MRI area. So that restricts the ease of entry for other businesses. Bob Long: But if you're in the MRI area, you could actually add or subtract routes within that area. What do you do in a case where you got constituent problems, like us, and they're concerned about problems that they don't think you're doing a good job. Does your company deal directly with them or does the MRI Consortium? Jim Gencauski: A representative from MRI deals with the city. He is a middleman dealing with the city, whereas in a franchise area, you, if you're in my service area, would deal directly with me. That has a distinct advantage with you. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, what happens for instance if there is a large number of people who are dissatisfied with your service over there. What's the consumer's recourse to think about switching haulers. Do they have the ability to do that? Jim Gencauski: They don't have that choice. Bob Long: But the city, through the MRI, renegotiates your contract every so often, yearly over there, so that could be addressed at that time? Jim Gencauski: I believe it could be. I don't know what the time frame is on that. The length of contract is five years. I haven't seen that come about at all with ourselves or any other hauler. Chair: Ms. Rettman, did you have a question? Janice Rettman: No. Chair: Thank you, Jim. The next organization against collection is Tom Flynn from BFI. Tom Flynn: Mr. Chairman and members of the council. My name is Tom Flynn and I represent Browning Ferris Industries here tonight. I am also a citizen of St. Paul, I live 16 in the Groveland area and both as a citizen, my personal views and what I believe represent my client's views. Browning Ferris Industries is against organized collection. The report put out by the Task Force is an excellent one and shows a lot of work and 95 percent of that report we agree with 100 percent. We believe some form of mandatory pickup is in order. We believe some form of volume based pricing and in fact Browning Ferris already doing that with their residential customers. We believe in same day service. We believe in many of the other recommendations. The fallacy of the report, and I think it's not an immediately obvious and logical thing to spot, is that organized collection in some way facilitates or furthers those goals. Organized collection either marginally facilitates those goals and in some cases detracts from achieving those kinds of goals. It hurts the problem in some cases rather than helps. The most obvious point made about organized collection and the most difficult one to deal with is that it reduces costs and creates efficiencies. This appears at first blush to be a logical conclusion. If one were able to drive down the street and have one block designated to it, it ought to save money. Unfortunately, airlines made that argument to when they wanted regulated airways and all kinds of other people have made that, and the United States Government has come to the conclusion that many of these arguments are just false over the years. What happens in an organized collection is, it is anti-competitive. And we know that when either monopolies are formed, a one-hauler system, a city-run system, or oligopolistic monopolies are formed, several haulers are assigned to the city, that has an anti-competitive effect. Economists cannot tell you why. Logically, with monopolies, cost should go down. There is less need for advertising, there's routing costs economies, and every time you do it, costs go up. And, service goes down. If you can tell a hauler that we are going to guarantee a piece of the pie, they'd be pretty slow to refuse that. So we have an organization that is at least telling you we want to look at that one very seriously. And somebody from Minneapolis says franchise systems work if you can get me a piece of the pie. Browning Ferris is somewhat alone on this because it believes and I think to its credit, that it is able to compete in this market more efficiently than anyone else. That's what capitalism is all about. They may be wrong about that, but they believe it. They believe that they have a small market share in St. Paul, and they expect that to grow. But with an organized system, competitiveness is stifled and growth is much more difficult. But in addition to that, and the idea that costs go down, it depends on your ratio of variable costs, fixed costs, and most costs of hauling are fixed, and fixed costs don't go down no matter what. There are statistics on that, but at any rate, it's not logical that costs go up in a monopoly or an anti- competitive system, but they always do. But more importantly, it doesn't further any of the other goals. A very common assumption here is that organized collection will help force people that illegally dump. That is false. It can't do that. In fact, volume based pricing, along with organized collection would have the opposite effect. Organized collectors, when they go down the street, are paid for a block, the whole block, whether or not people put out garbage. If they don't put out garbage, the profit for the organized collector goes up. The more garbage they don't put out, the more my profit goes up. If people are not using the system, I'm not going to report them. In fact, I'm going to see it their way if they have any excuse not to be putting garbage out. In addition, under volume based pricing, the more the person puts out, the more he has to pay. If he is forced to pay a little he may put some out, but there's more incentive to dump it illegally. The underlying premise that organized collection, which is already 17 anti-competitive, will help mandatory collection is false. And it does, in fact, there is an opposite economic incentive, most haulers would cooperate with the system. But the system builds in an economic instead of not to report people who aren't putting. Because they make money. There's less tipping cost, less work. They can go down the whole block, pick up five houses and leave 12 empty, that's good for business. And now, that isn't good for business, under the competitive system. They pick up all 12 houses and if they don't have all 12 on the block, they want to see somebody go sell those people. In addition though, to anti-competitiveness, nobody is adding in the cost of government. Government costs will go up. We have a problem and I know the council is trying to address it, of taxes constantly going up. You're going to have to hire somebody in charge of contracting with either one hauler or with every hauler in the City to divide up the city. These contracts are going to create a bureaucracy. We know that that government person is going to be in charge of those contracts, is going to need a staff, and prices will go up, and it will complicate it. Over the years contracts become longer and longer and meanwhile, the citizen who is unhappy with his hauler, can't get rid of the hauler and I happen to have that experience in the last year. I had a problem with a hauler, and the next day, I had a new hauler and as a bonus, at a lower price. We know that that won't happen under organized collection. There are other ways. Chair: Tom, how do you know that? Tom Flynn: Because . . . Chair: You're just conjecturing, you don't know that. Tom Flynn: I beg to differ on that, Mr. Chair, with all respect. A man from waste management was just here and said if you want to get rid of your hauler, can they do that and his answer, I believe, was no, not until the contract comes up. We know that that's probably the way the system works. There are other things that can be done in alternative. All the other things are agreed to, mandatory collection can be and should be implemented, and in organized hauling can't do that. There is no reduction in illegal dumping because organized collection. These problems of integration and coordination of solid waste, recycling and yard waste, can be done. In the city of Bloomington they have single day, you have to be out on a given day in a given part of the city, and all of the recycling and pickup must be done on that day. It is a fully open system, with 60 percent of the population, close to 60 percent participating in recycling. That is better than St. Paul with a fully open system on same day service. The system can work. Chair: Ms. Rettman. Janice Rettman: Let me just make sure I understand that. If my street was Monday, all of the haulers picking up on my street would come on Monday. Recycling would come on Monday, yard waste would come on Monday, everything would come on Monday. Tom Flynn: That's the way it's done in Bloomington. Janice Rettman: And the rates are kept? 18 Tom Flynn: Well, it's an open system and the rates are . . Janice Rettman: Obviously competitive. Tom Flynn: The question is, how best to get to the goals we're trying to achieve. How do we coordinate, how do we facilitate and get the cost under control. The worst way to get costs under control is to become anti-competitive. The best way is to implement ordinances and program which encourage people to recycle and coordinate the program in a way which this body and government has a legitimate interest in fostering. It the only part about the whole thing that is based on a false premise in our belief, BFI's belief, is that the anti-competitive nature of organization should be eliminated, if not severely restricted. I appreciate your time and patience with me, and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Chair: Thank you Mr. Flynn. Mr. Long? Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Tom, you're a good lawyer, I wish I would have served with you on the council, it would have been good to have you debating down here. Let me ask you a couple questions. First of all, obviously, we're doing all this pursuant to state law, and the state legislature debated this whole concept and basically not only gave authorization but clearly thought that organized collection furthered the goals of solid waste management. Were you present during any of the legislative debates, and how did the legislature in its wisdom come to the conclusion that obviously is different than yours, about the anti-competitive feeling on this. Tom Flynn: I wasn't present during the debate. I don't believe that they endorsed it. What they said was, take a look at it. I think that's OK. This community should be able to take a look at whatever it wants, and it shouldn't be told by the legislature that it can or cannot do anything. I am not sure that it was endorsed. If it was, I'm unaware of that. Bob Long: They clearly established an exception to anti-trust law to allow. . Tom Flynn: Because cities, and it's understandable, they wanted to look at it. To not allow people to look at this would be outrageous. Bob Long: My only point is it seems that, I think most of your arguments are maybe true, but I think in this case we've got a legislative policy that makes a clear exception to anti-trust law for whatever policy reasons, and I wasn't present either, I just assumed that they concluded that. Tom Flynn: First of all, there's an old saying that sausage and loss. We don't ever look at the way they are made, because you will never digest them. Why they passed that was to their credit. It's hard to vote against that. Let intelligent people decide what's best, and that means you, and this council and this city. That's pretty hard to vote against. And hopefully, we do have, and that's what they're allowing you to do, and 19 I think that an exception if it requires an exception, to the anti-trust, but don't think that had an endorsement and many cities besides Bloomington have rejected it. I think St. Paul should for all the reasons I mentioned. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, just one follow-up. Tom, the other argument you made about organized collection possibility creating an economic incentive for haulers to look the other way and actually encourage illegal dumping, I'm troubled by, but, I'm wondering, your whole assumption is based on the notion that somehow they get paid regardless of whether they pick up the garbage, and I'm just wondering, that assumption is inaccurate if we allow a private billing system to exist, and they actually have to bill the homeowner directly which is very well may be the case, the way we go in St. Paul. Tom Flynn: It is if you have mandatory, and the whole thing has to be integrated. If it's mandatory and you can build, and you are assigned a house, and that's your house, you want to get the bill. At some point, and Duluth does it, the city does get involved in it. Because if I'm required to go there I have to get paid and I can't afford the costs if I'm required to. So the city becomes politicized under mandatory pickup. So therefore, if I drive by the house and there's no garbage there, then profits go up. If I'm assigned the block, and half the block doesn't have garbage, I can get through quicker, and my profits go up. And my incentive is not to say anything or at least turn the other way as long as possible. I don't think a lot of haulers would do that in this town, they're pretty good, but why put the incentive in? The policy should be the other way. The incentives should be participation in payment. What it means is with organized hauling is that there is no question, far increased government involvement and some political pressure on you to handle this. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Tom, doesn't it work the other way. If a consumer is going to be paying for something, they're going to take advantage of the service, versus today where nobody has any clue as to whether a homeowner is getting their garbage picked up, because its a hodgepodge system and so nobody knows whether this particular address has their garbage picked up, whereas under organized, the whole alley, that hauler will know who's doing it, who's not, and if they're getting charged for it, they're not going to not take advantage of the service if they're getting charged for it. Tom Flynn: I agree, but only to a degree. Chair: Before we get into this too much longer, we have had all these arguments, we've had I don't know how many meetings, but we've gone over these details before, and I don't want to argue them out now. Thank you for your comments. We will go to the next speaker. Kiki Sonnen: Mr. Chair, I have a question. Chair: Ms. Sonnen? Kiki Sonnen: I apologize for being late because of a committee meeting. I am not on the committee and I had previous engagements, but I did want to hear the discussion so 20 the testimony that I missed I will go back over, these meetings are cablecast and tape- recorded. I will review that. Not being on your Public Works Committee that developed this proposal that we are looking at, this might be a naive question, but maybe the staff here or Mr. Flynn knows. Is the proposal before us to divide the city up under a bidding system? Do we put out for bids and say, we need seven companies to pick up trash in the city. And then we . . . Chair: That was one of the ways considered, Kiki. Kiki Sonnen: What is the system now on the table? Chair: There isn't right now, we're just deciding. We're just getting general ideas now. Kiki Sonnen: We're still at the general concept of it. Janice Rettman: Of organized collection. We then, if we decide to do that, to even put it on the table, then you have at least a minimum of 90 days that the district councils and everybody else would look at it, then it comes back again of which type of organized system. So we're at the very beginning. Kiki Sonnen: I just hope that in this discussion about the anti-trust that everything is done under bidding process, that there is no side-door meetings where the city is carved up amongst businesses, because I don't think that benefits anybody, and it should all be out in the open on the floor. Chair: We'll start now with the public for organized collection, Paul Gilliland was the first one to sign up for that. Paul Gilliland: I'm Paul Gilliland of 1409 McAffe, and I was trying to think of the last time I've been up before the council without wearing some kind of hat. District 2 is not taking a position on this, as most of the other district councils have not. The only hat I'm wearing for one of my comments is the American Council of the Blind, and that comment is I attended two of the three Mayor's forums on solid waste issues, and one of the concerns that I and other blind folks, and I'm almost sure I speak for other handicapped and elderly folks in the city of which approximately 10 - 15 percent of the city household homeowners do not have a car or do not have access to transportation other than public transportation at which you don't carry a bag of leaves and grass. I am concerned that any system that you do adopt, particularly for leaves and grass and brush, that it is not made so cost-prohibitive for those, and this terminology was used during the Mayor's meetings, who "are too lazy to go to the collection sites." There would be a substantial charge for pickup at curbside. I think that is blatantly unfair to those of us who are homeowners, and in my case, a fairly large plot of ground and a lot of brush, those who cannot drive and cannot transport to a site but have money & want to get rid of it. I think if you don't do something like that you're going to find that people who are not physically able to do composting are going to do sort of defacto composting in the back corner of the yard. I think a number of us will probably do that but do it legitimately. The other 2 comments I have, speaking myself now, not 21 necessarily for any handicapped organization are that #1, the collection system, on the outset, the organized collection system looks like a good idea, and I think that you've had some opportunities, the economy scale issue is there, the issue of whether or not there is an incentive to actually put out trash I think is something that you won't know until you look at what other cities' experiences have been, and there is certainly enough data out there to look at that. Two concerns I have then in getting into that: one is you have the opportunity now to establish a system whereby the owner of property pays and is responsible for payment of all collected trash. With utilities, as most of you know in St. Paul, there is an ongoing problem, conflict, some of which you have recently resolved, with payment of utilities. If a landlord doesn't pay, what happens to the tenants or what happens when the landlord is not responsible and the tenants leave and the next tenant gets hit. You've solved some of those problems. You have an opportunity with trash to eliminate that right from the start and by saying the owner of the property is responsible for all trash pickup. I think the other point that has not appeared anywhere in the reports that I'd like to see is that the haulers are developing a consortium of their own called St. Paul Refuse. I think there's a need just as there is in public utilities and just as there are in college trustees, etc., where students sit on that board. I think there's a need on the board of that organization for consumer representation. If not from the neighborhood councils or NAT or someone else, than just citizens at large that would apply to be on that board. Perhaps not as stockholder members, but as voting members of a board because I think the weak point in the organized system as Mr. Flynn pointed out, even though I don't agree with most of his comments, is that the consumer is going to have much less control individually under the system than the consumer has today. Thank you. Chair: Thank you Paul, those were very good comments. Any questions for Paul? The next section we have to cover is public against organized collection. The first speaker signed up is Scott Johnson. Is Scott here this evening? Scott Johnson: Yes I am. Chair: Hi, excuse me I didn't see you sitting over there. Scott Johnson: Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, my name is Scott Johnson, I am here as a private citizen. I live in the Highland area of St. Paul. I oppose the proposal to convert St. Paul to the so-called organized collection system as contained in recommendation 38 of the Citizen Solid Waste Task Force final report, which I have read and reread and studied and looked at with growing incredulity, particularly with respect to the disparity between the recommendation as recommendation 38 and the rationale advanced to support it. I want to address myself to the alleged advantages of organized collection set forth in the final report. First, according to the report, organized collection is more efficient, it is more economical and therefore cheaper than open collection. If that was true, and the report itself provides substantial ground both to doubt it and to believe the opposite is true, it can only be true if the business of trash collection constitutes what economists call a natural monopoly. And generally speaking in a natural monopoly type business, competition does not lower costs as it does in every other type of business that we're aware of in the free economy. Rather, in a natural 22 monopoly business, increased volume or customer base indefinitely lowers costs. To achieve the advantages of a natural monopoly, the franchise must be awarded to one business, one electric utility, one cable television company, and so on. The Task Force, however, does not recommend awarding a single franchise for trash collection and until tonight I'd never heard of anybody who supported it, and I certainly don't. I know of no one. Chair: You've never heard of anybody who supported it? Scott Johnson: One entity to come into the city of St. Paul convert what our numerous successful enterprising family businesses have them taken over, replaced by a single, probably impersonal large corporate entity, and in place of that kind of personal relationship that people like myself have with our. I don't know of anyone who would support that. I certainly don't. But to achieve the kind of efficiency that is suggested to support the organized collection system and is advanced in the report, that's really what you need. But the report, in connection with the recommendation, doesn't support awarding a contract or a franchise to one entity, but rather it supports giving the business to all 40 or 68 licensed haulers hauling trash presently in the city of St. Paul. Their recommendation simply doesn't jive with the alleged efficiency advance to support organized collection. It's frankly, a sham. My point is not that we adopt one business to lower the costs allegedly, maximumly in the business of trash collection. I don't believe it's a natural monopoly. My point is that the rationale advanced to support it is inconsistent with the recommendations that accompany it. Second, according to the report, organized collection will promote achieving abatement goals better than open hauling, but not a single fact is mentioned to support that assertion and the report itself recognizes that successful abatement programs have been implemented elsewhere under open hauling. Third, according to the report, organized collection will reduce the number of trucks on a given street or alley, thus producing savings on city street maintenance costs. It may come as a surprise to the Task Force, maybe even to the members of the council, but the reason many of us willingly pay our taxes for street maintenances and the like is precisely so that we can do business . . . Tom Dimond: It's good to find the one person who pays their street maintenance willingly. Excuse us. Scott Johnson: No problem, Mr. Dimond. I was just going to say that one of the reasons I do so willingly is so that I can do business with individuals and companies of my choosing rather than yours. Fourth, the report asserts that organized collection will reduce litter, illegal dumping and summary abatements and I think while that advantage is plausible on its base, it completely fails to consider alternatives, unless burdensome means of achieving that goal. Finally, I want to make a small point regarding the misleading terminology in which these issues are framed. Their terminology loads the dice in favor of so-called organized collection by implicitly criticizing open collection as disorganized. But open collection is not disorganized. It's free, or self-chosen, and it's alternative is unfree or dictated collection. I ask that you not take away my right to have my collection done by the family business of my choice, which provides excellent service at what I believe is the lowest possible cost. Don't make these enterprising 23 businessmen wards of the city who's right to succeed is dependent on your graces rather than their customers. And I do believe that the members of Mr. Hinz' organization are deathly afraid that you're going to take their businesses away from them, and that's why they're cooperating with you in the imposition of this organized system on the city of St. Paul, is they don't want to have their businesses taken away from them. I hope you don't interpret their cooperation necessarily as support for the idea of organized collection. I trust them, the good ones, to succeed and prosper under an open or free system of collection, and I believe that the best of them trust themselves not only to succeed but to do a lot better on an open system than they would under an unfree system. Don't make us all relearn the virtues of the present free system by adopting the Task Force recommendation, a recommendation which I believe cannot survive recent scrutiny. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Mr. Johnson, since we haven't met, I was impressed by your seemingly good knowledge of this whole area of economics. Do you professionally deal in this area somehow, or what's your background or occupation? Scott Johnson: Mr. Long, everything I know about economics I learned in an anti-trust course in law school, but Chair: You learned economics in law school? Bob Long: You don't work in this field though, professionally? Scott Johnson: I don't work in the field, it's new to me. I have been alarmed by reports I have read in the newspaper about the coming of an organized system and looked at the Citizens Task Force at length and thought about it and I appreciate your comments, but my comments really don't come from any professional elements, they just come thinking about the recommendations and whether or not they make sense. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, one other question. Mr. Johnson, I think we sent you that report, so I'm glad you enjoyed reading it. What I am wondering is, if in fact, the people who have studied this, whether it be our Metropolitan Council or the haulers, or other states, in fact have shown that the organized system versus the open system actually does produce some cost savings, does that convince you that it actually maybe make some sense to go toward it? Scott Johnson: Mr. Long, since I first called your office, I have been trying to get a copy of the Metropolitan Task Force's study on which the statement that the organized system may be more efficient or less costly is based, and I believe that to be impossible. I believe that conclusion is impossible to be accurate. Bob Long: OK, thank you. Chair: Thank you for your comments. The next speaker for public against organized collection is Jack Adler, 1311 Hillcrest Avenue. 24 Chair: Mr. Dimond? Tom Dimond: Mr. Chair, just for the record, I don't believe anybody has recommended that this be bid out to one individual contractor. I don't think that's been ever a discussion, and I don't think there's ever been a discussion that family businesses would be excluded from the process either, just for the record. Chair: Thank you. Mr. Adler? Jack Adler: Thank you. I am Jack Adler, and I'm a retired citizen who lives in Highland Park. I was involved in this proceedings that took place 10 years ago. I wish Jim Scheibel was here because we were on opposite sides of the fence then, and he treated me very fairly. I hope that you will, this will be a lot of work, but before you adopt anything that you take these proposals before every district council and give them notice. It's a lot of work, and a lot of people don't want to do it, but ten years ago it kept you from making a mistake of going into this organized plan and I think it might do it again unless the people have changed their minds or you can convince them to change their minds. Mr. Johnson and I believe the man from Browning Ferris, Mr. Flynn, indicated that prices would go up on any monopoly. They are bound to. When we got the regulation of airlines, the prices went down because the, when you have a monopoly there isn't competition and people say that they show what their costs are, but they don't show that their best costs. Secondly, nobody else can get into the business if you organize like they are in Minneapolis. This can exchange routes, but nobody new can come in. Thirdly, one of the arguments that the trash haulers used ten years ago was that in the several years before that, the number of trash haulers had decreased from say 70 something to 40 something. If you put all the present trash haulers into this plan, and we don't need them, you're still going to use them. There is no reason to get more efficient. Another argument was in the state planning agency report back in 1978, I'm sorry, I didn't know about this until I got a notice from the district council this week or I would have brought my figures more up to date. In Minneapolis, at that time, the state planning commission had a report that if Minneapolis would have taken competitive bids, they would have saved a million dollars a year at that time. Secondly, in the state planning report, they show what the different municipal expenses are of the city and compared them. And the biggest difference was between St. Paul and Minneapolis. On trash hauling at that time was 4.91 times as expensive in Minneapolis as it was in St. Paul, where we have our individual ones. Chair: When was that, sir? Jack Adler: That was in 1978. I don't know what the figures are now, but that's a heck of a distance to try to close and I admit there have been changes. All of these recycling and other programs that are good and should be done can still be done with people having the choice of their haulers. The haulers are licensed and you can require them to do what you want. I think now you require them to dump at Pine Bend before they had 3 spots that they could go to. Another problem, about 25 percent of the homes in St. Paul, 20 - 25 percent, do not have alleys, so that means those people cannot keep their trash containers on the curb, but they have to take them out on the day that it's 25 there and bring them back. My mother-in-law is 85 years old and has her own house. There's one handicapped gentleman who was here. Can you imagine what it will be like after you get the snow up there in the winter, to see somebody struggling to take care of that. Also mention wear and tear on the alleys. That came up ten years ago and that's utter nonsense, as I talked to the State Highway department, I was in that business with engineers, and what wears out highways and alleys, if they're designed originally, enough to haul trucks which ours are, is the weather, ice getting into the cracks and many other things. The wear and tear on the highways is insignificant. As far as these trash houses go, those people are sick people. You have those where they have organized hauling as well as where you don't have hauling. I also checked at that time with Mr. Piram in St. Paul and Tom Montgomery, who has an equivalent position with the Parks Department in Minneapolis about dumping of household waste where it shouldn't be. They indicated that there was very little problem and in all honesty, we couldn't differentiate between a city that had organized hauling and non-organized hauling as far as that was concerned. I would like to leave you with one other thing. We have had some hot weather. How would it be if we had one supplier and we have a garbage strike? Thank you. Chair: Thank you, Mr. Adler. The next speaker signed up for the same category is Ann Pace. Ann, are you here this evening? Ann Pace: I'm here as a fairly new resident of the city of St. Paul, and I just want to say that I'm very happy with the trash collection service that I have. My neighbors are also very happy with theirs, and we don't all have the same hauler. I moved here after living for six years in Minneapolis, and our trash collection there was terrible. Regardless of how much you complained and who you complained to, it was terrible. That's basically what I wanted to say, and I would be very unhappy if the city took away from me the right to choose who hauls my garbage, because I basically think that part of the reason that it's good is because they know that I'll choose someone else if it isn't good. That's basically the end of what I have to say about that, but I also would like to say that I think that the business of illegal dumping is only partly economic, and I think the amount of litter that is thrown around where there are plenty of trash cans is evident. Thank you. Chair: Mr. Long? Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Ms. Pace, what did you say was your address? Ann Pace: I live at 1019 Burns Avenue, which is in Mounds Park. Bob Long: Who is your hauler, currently? Ann Pace: BFI, Woodlake. Bob Long: Thank you. Chair: Thank you. The next speaker in the same category is Edward Nagle. 26 Edward Nagle: My name's Edward Nagle, I live in Como Park. Did you people ever hear of deregulation? All transportation comes under deregulation. How can you take a job away from one man and give it to another? That's what ruined the trucking industry in the city of St. Paul. You'd better go back and ask the city attorney to look up the law before you get in court. That's all I've got to say. Chair: Thank you Ed. Appreciate it. Bob Long: Mr. Chair, can I ask a question. Ed, can I ask who your hauler is? Edward Nagle: I really don't know his name, I guess his name is Andy. Bob Long: Do you know what company it is? Edward Nagle: Andy's. Bob Long: Andy's Hauling. OK. Thank you. Chair: The next speaker in the same category is Charles Baggs. Is Charles here this evening? I guess not. Bruce, do you have anybody else signed up? Do we have anybody who is not signed up yet? Sir? Come on down. Will you step in front of the microphone and give us your name and address, sir? Emil Swanson: Emil Swanson, I'm on the Elder Council, you probably know who I am. There's a lot of things that have been brought up here tonight that aren't really pertinent to the job, but we're looking for. One thing that gets me is I'm on the Elder Council, we sent in a form to the City Council, nothing was done about it. Three, four years later we sent in another form, still haven't heard nothing. I'm on Latimer's committee Task Force. We sent in that form, nothing has been heard from it. I have been to many speaking engagements at different places in meeting, rather on the hazardous waste and waste and recycling and garbage hauling, and they get so far and it's done. They never finish it. Now what I'm gonna get at is volume based pay, volume base charging for collection. How did these drivers ever get to put that in? We never agreed to it yet and we've had committees and it was never brought up to the committees. How do they come and put volume based collection? Chair: Emil, it was one of the ideas pushed by someone that was brought up in the discussions we had that's all I can tell you. Emil Swanson: Then they took ahold of it, they shouldn't, it should be brought up in front of a committee. Chair: It will be, many times. Emil Swanson: I've been to two of those committees and it was never brought up, it was on the forum, but never brought up. 27 • Chair: O.K.. Emil Swanson: I get charged for two cans and two bags, which is $41.00. They never come around to me and ask me how much garbage I put out every week. I put out one can and one bag, which should be half the price that I'm being charged for. Another thing, we don't have any enforcement in the city. There's trucks going down the street that are hauling garbage. They don't stop at NSP, they're going down to some landfill. Why isn't there something done about that? I saw the news the other day where they were just looking for that woman who disappeared, she might be down in one of those dumpsters. I've seen trucks bringing in loads of garbage, how are they bringing them to the landfill? I thought we were trying to get rid of landfills. Some of these things are all mixed up now, but those are some of the things that I can't figure out. This one guy says I got 12 stops, and if I pick up 8, he still can collect for the other 4, that don't make sense. He says NSP don't get enough garbage down there. Well they'll get it down there if they'd get these trucks off the street that are going by. They go right by NSP and take it to a landfill. Chair: Thank you, Emil. I did miss a couple people. Carol Andrews from District 14? Carol Andrews: Mr. Chair, members of the committee, my name is Carol Andrews, and I am the chairperson in the district 14 environment committee, a group of citizens form the district. Just by way of background, I do work in the solid waste area. I work for a state agency, mostly in the landfill area, and I've sat through plenty of public hearings of irate citizens neighboring landfills, and it's nice to be on the other side of the microphone for once, but it's really made me have a keen awareness of the need for solid waste abatement. One of the things I'm trying to do, I've worked with the environment committee, and what I'd like to tell you about today is some of the opinions that we hear from the citizens of the district at our committee meetings. Organized collection, I can say, has been a goal of the district for at least 3 years now. Our committee has been talking about it at several meetings. It's taken up a lot of our time for over 2 years. We've had a couple of haulers who come to our meetings and express their concerns regarding, is this going to put them out of business. They are small local businesses, and we agree that if a system is set up, it really needs to take those people into account and we don't want to see them put out of business. But from the citizens that we have heard at the committee, their viewpoint is that they do want to see some organized system set up, and that's for a number of reasons. First, and the thing we hear most often, is complaints about how many trucks we have going up and down the alley. A lot of people are concerned about safety. We hear from mothers concerned about their children playing in the back alley. We hear from people concerned about noise and air pollution. Some of us do like to sleep beyond six in the morning and with 5 - 6 different trucks working an alley, it's hard to do some morning, especially if you don't have an air conditioner. Like I said, also air pollution. It is a concern in the Twin Cities area. We're not that great on our air pollution and this system of having truck running willy-nilly doesn't help. Also, wearing down the alleys, which I guess I'm a civil engineer so we can get into debates on that, but that's another concern we hear. We also hear about illegal dumping, and especially the desire people 28 for yard waste pickup, we have a few people who want to do composting, they want to do all they can to reduce their waste that they are putting out, but at the same time, we're hearing that we can only do some yard waste composting, that a lot of it is illegal. We've had people come and say they tried to do it and they got cited by the city for illegal composting at home, so we need to have services for them to get rid of their yard waste legally, and not send it to Newport. Finally, I think that an organized system, through the change in the system is a great way to communicate to the city of St. Paul to it's citizens, the need to change what they are doing. If they are not already recycling, they should do so. Now they have a chance to compost their yard waste they should do that. They need to start thinking, because we need social change in the area of solid waste collection. Like I said, organized collections is something that this district has considered before, we've considered doing it ourselves. I think it's something that if the city does it, the city can do it more effectively on the large-scale basis, then we'd really like to see the city work towards that. That's all I have to say. Any questions? Bob Long: Mr. Chair, Ms. Andrews, it's nice to meet you, I've heard good things about your work on that committee. In the discussions with the citizens who have come in, were people pretty up front in saying they were willing to give up some of the individual choice in favor of the advantages of organized hauling, has that been a discussion you've gone into? Carol Andrews: The people that we've heard from had just complaints about the problems of the unorganized system. Obviously Mr. Flynn and other people here are within the district, but we haven't heard from them yet. I think if through the process, if the City Council puts forth a proposal for organized collection, that will bring in, and you'll hear the different opinions, but I think we at least have to make the proposal to go to organized, and see how many complaints you really get. What is the percentage of people who are that loyal to their own hauler. One thing I did hear somebody say is they're concerned about, if we go to the new system and you have a strange hauler, will they come assist elderly people, will they do door service like I think some older people have now, and I was reading that the city of Champlin did set up organized system, and that was one of the things in the contract that the individual haulers do need to cater to the needs of the people they are serving. Chair: Like the person who had an 85 year old person who couldn't take the trash out, right? Carol Andrews: Right. Chair: Thank you. Ms. Sonnen? Kiki Sonnen: In the district 14, the Macalester-Groveland area, they have an extensive network of block clubs, neighborhood organizations, informal in most cases, but they are there, right? Under that system have their been discussions or examples of how people can voluntarily agree on a block club level to have one or two haulers, and why does that not work, or does it work? 29 Debbie Meister: Kiki, I could answer that. I do coordinate the block clubs in district 14 and I have been to many block club meetings. That usually is one of the things that does come up, and at the last block club meeting I was at, that's one of the things the neighbors decided that they wanted to look into was getting one hauler because they were tired of having so many haulers coming up and down, but that comes up time and time again. Kiki Sonnen: Then why can't that system work instead of a mandated system? Debbie Meister: It did work in Tingletown, they set up a system. What they didn't have was the maintenance, so they had a hard time getting in contact with the new neighbors, and so that's how this system slowly fizzled away, but they had over 80 percent of the residents sign up for the one-hauler system, and that was back in '83 or '84. Chair: Thank you very much. I have one more, Mr. Staffenson, Frank Staffenson wanted to make a comment? Frank Staffenson: Good evening:-Frank Staffenson, Environmental Health Director for city of St. Paul. I hate to admit this, but in the nearly 26 years with the city, more than 20 of them have been spent with solid waste in some form or another. Some of you have managed to receive orders from our office, others we have contacted to do other things for our office. The first assignment I had was to test for adenosines on the old city dump. That convinced me, playing with allium sulfite down there, that there must be a better way. Whatever you can do, I want to encourage you and everybody here to try to work together to make it work. We are faced with a state law, obviously, and we must comply with it. But when you go through a quarter of a million dollars a year in my office for summary abatements, in excess of a quarter of a million this last year, we must find a better way to move white goods, I think that gentleman's gone, the recyclings that are out there, the tires that are there, and we must find a better way to collect solid waste, a group of things called solid waste in the city, and I encourage you folks on the council and everybody here to move forward. I haven't got another 26 years to listen to this argument. '76 there was kind of a fiasco, it got a little hostile. Some of my comments resulted in firebombs laying on my front lawn. I will not comment like I did in '76. I don't need that. But I do hope that we can work it out and get some kind of a solid waste collection system in the city of St. Paul that truly works. Thank you. Chair: Thank you for comments. Anyone else that hasn't signed up that wants to speak? OK, I guess this will be the end of the meeting. I'm glad that everybody showed up. We will have the second part of this at the full city council meeting in the future. I hope you all keep your ears tuned to find out when it will be. Thank you. The meeting was then adjourned. 30 • • v of FA EG R E & BENSON afriivrb 2200 NORWEST CENTER .V i,}�1 1 5 ' 90 SOUTH SEVENTH STREET MINNEAPOLIS,MINNESOTA 55402-3901 COUNCILMEMB.R 612/336-3000 BOB LONG TELECOPIER 336-3026 TELEX 425131 SUITE 1150,8400 TOWER 10 EASTCHEAP 2500 REPUBLIC PLAZA 8400 NORMANDALE LAKE BOULEVARD LONDON EC3M lET, ENGLAND 370 SEVENTEENTH STREET BLOOMINGTON,MINNESOTA 55437-1076 0)/623-6163 DENVER,COLORADO 80202-4004 612/921-2200 TELECOPIER 623-3227 303/592-5690 TELECOPIER 921-2244 TELEX 8811084 TELECOPI ER 592-5693 June 14 , 1989 Councilmember Bob Long �r� 713 City Hall ,)).0,t) St . Paul, MN 55102 Dear Councilmember Long : At my request your staff has kindly forwarded a copy of the "Comprehensive Solid Waste Management System for St . Paul" prepared by the St . Paul Citizens Solid Waste Task Force. I thank you for their prompt response to my request . Over the last several months the world has of course been focused on the fate of economic and political freedom in China . It seems to me the height of irony that at such a time the Mayor and City Council of St . Paul are entertaining recommendations to divide the city into cantons and assign its residents to mandarin garbage haulers under an "organized" hauling system. I would like to take every opportunity available to express my opposition to the Task Force' s "organized" hauling recommendations and the comically result-oriented rationale advanced to support them. Will you please advise me of the opportunities that exist for me to do so? Thank you for your assistance in this matter. Very truly yo, s, st, ott . 'hnson SWJ: shl 9731F lam` 1° crn 4 Waste Management—Blaine 4,1;;;;:S 10050 Naples Street,NE Blaine,Minnesota 55434 A Waste Management Company 612/784-8349 1h4!!!!:7 /1//7 ECE 1Ef July 17, 1989 t - 18 1989 CQUNC:..^,-_ ':77' Mr. Roger Goswitz Chairman Public Works Committee City Hall Saint Paul , Minnesota 55102 Dear Mr. Goswitz: Thank you for the opportunity to speak before your committee on the organized collection issue in Saint Paul . I have testified before various city councils and the Legislature Commission on Waste Management to keep the solid waste market competitive. Under the organized system proposed, competition will cease. Whether through an "open hauling" system or bid system, be it for the entire city or segments of the city, haulers have the opportunity to distinctively market their service through price or service considerations. I have enclosed a copy of my comments of the Saint Paul Task Force Report for your review; I have recently been selected as a member of the Saint Paul Chamber of Commerce Blue Ribbon regional business group on solid waste and will continue to assist the chamber on solid waste activities. Again, thanks for the opportunity to comment; I am available to work with city staff or the committee. Ver truly yours, J ' Gencauski G neral Manager JJG/acl 7 0 0 m CD m •�i A Division of Waste Management of Minnesota, Inc. Waste Management—Blaine il;;;;:1 ? 9- 10050 Naples Street.NE A Waste Management Company Blaine,Minnesota 55434 1/42:7 612//84-8349 1 11� March 13, 1989 Chuck Wiger Saint Paul Chamber of Commerce 600 North Central Life Tower 445 Minnesota Street Saint Paul , Minnesota 55101 Re: Comments of St. Paul Task Force Report Dear Chuck: Although I 'm a little late in forwarding my comments, they may help to update your thoughts on recycling issues in Saint Paul . 1) Residential Recycling: The increase to weekly collection of re- cyclables, use of containers, and same day recycling and trash pick up will all help the diversion of waste and participation in the recycling program. To maximize resale and overall results, including market improvement, flow control must be eliminated. 2) Commercial/Industrial : Waste Management, as well as several other haulers, are performing recycling services for non-residential accounts. The increased cost of disposal necessitates this pro- gram for business and the hauler. I believe you'll see:a large increase in recycling programs for commercial establishments dur- ing 1989. 3) Volume Based Pricing: Most haulers are offering a VBP program as competition dictates and disposal rates increase. 4) Funding: Municipalities and commercial establishments are finding that they are able to reduce their refuse generation, hence their expense, through recycling. The need to fund these programs, therefore, longterm may be non-existent. 5) Yardwaste: Haulers cannot dispose of yardwaste at landfills or refuse to energy beginning in 1990. Residents should be encouraged to mulch their grass clippings, take yard waste to appropriate sites, or contract through their refuse hauler for separate col- lection of yard waste. 6) Organized Collection: We would prefer a competitive bid for haul- ing all or part of St. Paul versus a consortium situation. Not only are legal issues raised, but also the use of a "middle man" in the consortium hampers quick response. A Division of Waste Management of Minnesota. Inc. „:„:„ Management Company ,!� A Waste g P Y /,+ March 2 ‘4!!!!7 March 13, 1989 Comments on St. Paul Task Force Report 7) Landfill Tax: Landfill taxes are already earmarked recycling programs. You may wish to consider a fee, as Ramsey presently does, on property owners as a funding mechanism. In this way, each resi- dent receives his share and the hauler/landfill operator does not become the tax collector. 8) Designation: Of personal significance, Ramsey and Washington counties need to enforce the designation ordinances. Many haulers are totally bypassing the plant to obtain cheaper disposal rates. In addition, if the plant were to accept all materials , as I be- lieve it should, exemptions and excuses would be eliminated. The additional cost of handling "unacceptable” materials would be spread over the total operational cost of the plant. Please call me if you have any questions. Sincerely, J ' Gencauski neral Manager JJG/acl • bcc: Terry Hoffman Gregory M. Pennella Susan E. Clifford 722 Holly Avenue �. St. Paul, MN 55104 (612) 291 -8958 Roger Goswitz r/cO1"1l�r-n St. Paul City Council City Hall - St. Paul, MN 55102 - J 9 July 16, 1989 Dear Council Member: We are writing you because of our concern over the proposal for organized garbage collection, whereby each area of the city would be given one hauler. We are against this proposal for the following reasons: 1 ) We want to continue the freedom to choose our own haulers. We pay for the service and therefore should have the opportunity to determine which Hauler is hired. 2) The fact that we have a choice of haulers gives us as consumers the leverage to demand the quality of service performed by the hauler. Without competition we would be at the mercy of the hauler without any form of leverage or recourse. Our understanding of the current proposal would require that the City play some regulatory role between haulers and users; this seems like an absolute waste of City resources. If you want to get into the business of trash collection then it would make more sense to provide the service. 3) Competition provides trash service at the best possible a • - price. The City of St. Paul abandoned organized garbage collection (and the middle income jobs that it provided) in favor of the system we now have be- cause this system saves money. Let's leave well enough alone. We are pleased with our current hauler, RED ARROW. We have renovated our home which resulted in a lot of construction debris and other "junk" in addition to our regular household waste. RED ARROW has provided excellent service. They never miss a pick-up, always do a good job, and rarely charge us for eetra waste. WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE HAULERS. We hope that you will given consideration to our position. Sincerely, /i f 1 Gregory M. Penn I a Susan E. Clifford July 10, 1989 1247 Osage St. St.Paul, MN. 55403 St.Paul City Council Re: Organized Garbage Collection Dear Council Members: I wish to enter the following comments into the pro and con discussion related to organized garbage collection: • First, I whole-heartedly support the concept of organized collection • On our small street, we have 5 or 6 different companies picking up garbage, causing excessive wear and tear on the street, in addition to the unavoidable repeated exposure to noise and exhaust fumes • With one particular hauler who makes pick-ups in our i neighborhood at 5:30 am, we have had no luck in getting consideration for re-scheduling or even acknowledging that this could be an annoyance - with only one or two customers on our block, we have very little leverage with this person • We are active recyclers and have had very little success locating garbage companies interested in supporting our efforts through reduce volume rates Thank-you for your consideration of this important city issue. Sincerely, Thomas H. Zoet —� Resident M E M O R A N D U M TO: CITY OF ST. PAUL FROM: ST. PAUL REFUSE, INC. (SPRI) DATE: JULY 13, 1989 RE: PUBLIC HEARING ON GARBAGE COLLECTION IN ST. PAUL ST. PAUL REFUSE, INC. (SPRI ) is a consortium of independent businesses in St. Paul which have provided residential waste hauling services to St. Paul customers for many years. It was formed in response to the City' s initiatives on residential waste hauling issues.Through SPRI, it is the haulers ' intention to cooperate with the City as the City looks at its residential waste-hauling system. Any change in the hauling system should maintain the high-quality service presently being offered by the independent haulers in St. Paul. We know of examples in other cities, such as Minneapolis and Champlin, where this kind of quality has been preserved through a negotiated contract which is permitted by Minnesota Statute, and we will assist you in seriously considering this as a primary alternative. We recognize that outside forces (particularly regulation by State and County) have caused changes and uncertainty. We look forward to exploring with you the possibilities of changingthe system somewhat in St. Paul, leading to greater efficiency and less confusion for the general public. By example, we think that identifying more compact hauling areas may not only prove to be more efficient and have the effect of slowing escalating costs over time, but may also serve the cities ' and the general public ' s need to reduced vehicle traffic. SPRI haulers are, of course, familiar with the effective recycling program which the City has created with the Neighborhood Energy Consortium (NEC) . There will be a continuing need for mixed waste haulers and NEC to maintain and improve coordination of recycling and waste collection services . We will cooperate in every reasonable way to do that. The City' s policy of reducing the amount of materials being taken to landfills or burn plants for disposal and increasing the amount of materials being recycled is one widely supported by our members. Of major concern to you, the general public and to our members, are the rapidly escalating costs. Nearly all of that is attributable to changes in disposal techniques , increased government regulation and limitations on what can be disposed of and where. These pressures will have an upward escalation on costs for many years to come. We think some of those increases could be offset by developing a more efficient system in St. Paul, including one that will take account of strong incentives for recycling. These incentives will undoubtedly include pricing where homeowners will pay less for mixed waste if they aggressively recycle. Most of our members use a pricing system similar to that today and we look forward to developing one with the City that will be widely accepted. 533 Otis Avenue Saint Paul , MN 55104 August 23, 1989 Saint Paul City Council Dear Council Members: We are writing to strongly support the recommendations of the Saint Paul Citizen's Solid Waste Task Force for a comprehensive solid waste management system for the City of Saint Paul . As fifteen year residents who are extremely concerned about the severe threat to the future of our planet and of all life thereon by the pollutants to our land, water, and air, we urge you to speedily pass the recommendations of the Task Force and offer strong leadership to the entire residential and business community to put into practice a program which will protect and improve these irreplaceable and invaluable supporters of all life on Earth. In our view, the organized collection of mixed solid waste is much more desirable than the current system because it will create a structure for other desirable programs in solid waste management. It will make it possible for the City to enforce mandatory collection, reduce illegal littering and dumping of waste, and reduce the noise, traffic, wasted gasoline, and pothole causing wear and tear on our streets which our neighborhoods now suffer when many different haulers cover the same areas every week. It will also encourage and support the recycling program as all pick ups can he scheduled on the same day for a neighborhood. It will also support the separatirn of yard wastes when those are banned from landfills in 1990, as well as the collection of same for the organized composting and recycling of this "natural" resource. This organized system will also be helpful to the City in complying with the 1990 law which prohibits unprocessed waste from being placed in landfills. In addition, volume based pricing will provide a strong incentive for everyone to practice recycling at the source. We wish to express our appreciation for the courage and foresight which the Council has shown in recently passing the plastics Ordinance. It is our hope that the problems of recycling of plastic items can eventually be overcome, which will greatly reduce the many non-food items which are now made of plastic. Ditto for a solution to the disposable diaper problem. -2- Last, but not least, we support a mandatory recycling Ordinance to strongly encourage all residents and businesses to get into these good habits and to do what they know they should for the benefit of all . Perhaps the volume based pricing will achieve this goal without such an ordinance. Although unenforceable, as are many other laws such as civil rights and seat belt laws, they still serve to educate and encourage people to do what is in the best interest of society. Furthermore, studies have shown that production of products from recycled materials is cheaper than manufacturing from the raw products, and it also conserves those precious natural resources. In this interest, we also ask that the Council explore and find ways for the City to encourage and assist busnesses in developing and marketing products made from recycled materials. We thank you for your consideration of these matters which are so crucial to the future of all . Yours sincerely, ,,,,r:-.,„04/ ..,., , 1 I yv' 'Z" / / Beverly Be an Wickstrom David K. Wickstrom MAJOR APPLIANCE PICKUP SERVICE, INC. 654 University Ave. W. St. Paul, Minnesota 55104 (612) 291-1100 WHY SHOULD THE ST. PAUL CITY COUNCIL BE CONCERNED ABOUT USED APPLIANCES? 1 . Each household in St. Paul on an average disposes of one unwanted appliance each year. This includes refrigerators, freezers, washers, dryers, water heaters, air conditioners, trash compactors, dish washers and furnaces, with an average weight of 150 to 200 pounds. 2. Appliances manufactured before 1979 contain PCB' s in the capacitors of the motors. PCB' s are known to cause cancer and are classified as a hazardous waste. The PCB' s can be removed and disposed of safely. 3 . Refrigerators, freezers and air conditioners contain freon refrigerants . These chlorofluorocarbons, R12 and R22, destroy the earth' s protective ozone layer. The freon can be removed, cleaned and reused again. 4. If the appliances are compacted in a garbage truck, they cannot be rebuilt or recycled but must be landfilled. Compacting releases the PCB' s and freon to the atmosphere and contaminates the metals in the appliance. 5. Separate collection of used appliances is less expensive than collecting the appliance with the garbage and later transporting it to the landfill from the transfer station or resource recovery plant. 6. Used appliances cannot be processed in mass burn or refuse derived fuel facilities and landfilling them takes up valuable space. 7. Ten percent of the used appliances can be rebuilt for resale. 8. The ferrous and non-ferrous metals inased appliances can be cleaned and recycled as raw material for new products. 9 . The residents of St. Paul dispose of approximately 110,000 used appliances each year and so far this year in 1989 we have collected 6,000 appliances in St. Paul. 10. At Major Appliance Pickup Service Inc. , we have been providing collection, rebuilding and recycling services for used appliances in the Twin Cities for thirteen years. We carefully remove the PCB' s and dispose of them properly. We remove the freon, clean it and reuse it. We would like to work with the City of St. Paul to develop a management program for the used appliances generated in the city to ensure safe handling of the PCB' s and freon and the maximum recycling of the metals. NEIGHBORHOODS CIIITYIAMSTI , i ST.PAUL PIONEER PRESS DISPATCH WEDNESDAY, MARCH 8, 1989 �.". t i' � . 3 a.y F =-n F : L '',''Ti•=--- iitl'ill5E*.r."''' 7'4•::::i'''',:lAl:';:'.1•:''A.:•:.:•:::',1.,':4•I'k., ,',• '::'''':':q:N:tg:\NqttlgA'tg::':'gaRZ§T:0:0:At'"P11\7::iiii'l:.:'''4'''''Aq',: ,6;::',•• ..,ARgati:.:':..:.-:,, %s3_ .: � P F. = -- _ _ 3� - - •_=:. .�: • _.. . _.:mss:�. _ - yy :. : ::g_. a� P � - __. Reprinted � r<__.: �.___�,. __ _ _ : • - ,- from __ _ _ t - y'?a -_E . .. . - _:_ .y�_•:-'E. _ -to er P . .. :c_p c::': ae Spence Hollstadt/Staff Photographer Major Appliance store manager Richard Christenson is shown with old appliances waiting to be repaired or scrapped. Firm puts crunch on old a pp liances By Richard Chin The program is intended to keep junked stoves, Today's battered Amana washers and refrigerators from using up dwindling Staff Writer landfill space and possibly polluting ground water or Whirlpool might be with toxic materials contained in some appliance They've cooked millions of dinners, chilled reincamated as part of a motors. countless six-packs and washed tons of laun- dry. proud new skyscraper, if Jack Cameron,president of MAPS,estimated that Without them,housework would be hell. it falls into the right his St. Paul-based company and other junk appli- ance haulers recycle about 110,000 appliances annu- But each year in the Twin Cities area,an estimat- hands. ally in the metropolitan area,leaving about 160,000 ed 270,000 stoves, refrigerators, freezers, washers _ — that are buried in landfills or just ditched. That's and dryers are unplugged for the final time and equal to about 4 million cubic feet of landfill space, thrown away. or about 32 million pounds of appliances,according A lot are buried in landfills.Some end up dumped ice to residents,retailers,garbage haulers,landfills p and governments. to MAPS officials. in a ditch.But for others,there is an afterlife. Cameron said that since his ycled company about 400,0 started 00 busi- appli- Today's battered Amana or Whirlpool might be sells P MAPS fixes up 10 percent of those appliances and Hess in 1976, it has rec reincarnated as part of a proud new skyscraper,if it re them. The rest are sold to a scrap metal ancea,which if stacked up on an acre of land would falls into the right hands. dealer to be shredded and melted down and turned be as tall as the IDS Tower. With the help of a Metropolitan Council grant, a into construction steel. Recycling appliances "saves a lot of volume as St. Paul company hopes eventually that it will be With the$150,000 technology and research grant far as landfill space goes,"said Metropolitan Coun- able to give a second chance to all of the appliances recently awarded by the Metropolitan Council, cil grants administrator Victoria Reinhardt. thrown away in the metropolitan area. MAPS hopes to design, test and build a metal And Cameron said it is getting harder and harder Major Appliance Pickup Service Inc. (MAPS) al- shredder machine just for appliances that will be to just throw the things away. He said some land ready recycles about 60,000 discarded appliances a capable of processing all of the appliances thrown fills,such as Louisville Landfill near Shakopee,have year in the Twin Cities area,providing pick-up sere- away in the Twin Cities. over o► i . Appliances Continued from Page 1 To process the appliances he picks up, Cameron stopped burying appliances and instead have hired said,he has to take out the capacitors,which means he MAPS to haul them away to be recycled. has to meet regulations to be a hazardous waste gen- Louisville Landfill owner Joe Pahl said he's heard erator and has to hire a hazardous waste management of legislative proposals to prohibit the burial of appli company to dispose of the capacitors. ances,but he said more landfills are voluntarily keep Even after the capacitors are removed, there is ing them out of their facilities. only one metal processing company in the metro area, Pahl said since last April, he has sent about 2,000 North Star Steel in St.Paul,which has the equipment p to shred appliances. appliances to MAPS. He said keeping appliances out Doug Duren,North Star department superintendent, of the landfill reduces the risk of damage to landfill also said his company would prefer shredding cars, machinery and eliminates any chance that chemicals not washing machines,because more steel can be gen- from the appliance motors might leak out. erated from cars. Appliances also can't be burned in the garbage in- Cameron said the shredder his company hopes to cinerators, and Cameron said many regular waste develop will be smaller and specifically tailored for haulers don't like picking them up. appliances. Metal dealers also are reluctant to process appli- The company hopes to process 75,000 appliances in ances unless capacitors have been taken out.Capaci- 1990,100,000 in 1991 and 200,000 in later years. tors are devices used on some appliance motors to carry an electrical charge to get the motor started. To do that,Cameron said,the company will have to Until 1979, some of the devices were manufactured find another location besides its headquarters at 654 with oil containing PCBs—polychlorinated biphenyls, University Ave. which are chemicals that have caused cancer in labo- The company also has started branches in Atlanta ratory animals. and St.Louis to recycle appliances. VIC s"-e,sri 1 APPLIANCE RECYCLING 654 University Avenue St.Paul,Minnesota 55104 (612)291-1100 CENTERS of AMERICA of *Major Appliance Pickup Service is a division of Appliance Recycling Centers of America,Inc. I N C O R P O R A T E D • valor PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER Leo Shattuc -. pt. 1 BOx 1 Walnut Grove, Mn. 5618Q JUL" 3 198" Roger Goswitz, Council member C�LMEMBER City of St. paul COUN WITZ City Hall, Seventh floor ROGER GOS Dear Sir, Thank you for sending me the notice of the public hearing on July 13, 1939 at 7:00 P.M. I do not foresee at this time, that I will be able to attend your meeting, so I am giving you permission to make copies of this material and give it to all the people who attend the meeting, or anyone else you feel could help the ecology. I believe that there are rubbish haulers in St. paul that are do- ing the job of hauling the rubbish for the citizens of St. paul. The people are paying these rubbish haulers for doing the job they do. I believe that there are people in St. paul that will recycle the waste that is possible to recycle if they are given a little encouragement and training. I operated a plastic recycling business in St. paul for ten years. I have developed a machine which recycles plastic contain- ers, such as milk bottles, water, juice, soap, and many other contain- ers, like plastic drums and pails. The machine sells for $4, 950.00. I will teach a person what he has to know to recycle plastic. I have re- cycled plastic containers from commercial companies, as well as from the homes. All of this plastic was going to the landfills before I re- cycled it. I believe that the most practical way to recycle plastic from homes is to have the housewives rinse out the plastic containers and save them to be picked up at curbside on a regular basis. Some towns have picked up the plastic on the first Saturday of each month. The households and the haulers do not need tax money to stay alive. pollution of the atmosphere is very bad, and to incinerate would shorten the time we all have left to live. I have started a new organization called people Against pollution, (P.A.P. ), and I am looking for people who will help in the fight a« gainst pollution. The world experts on ecology tell us that the ozone layer, which protects us, is being depleted at such a fast rate that within ten years, the average temperature will increase ten degrees. If the mean temperature increases ten degrees, it means that the farm crops will burn up, and there will not be food for the people to eat. I believe that the people should be encouraged to recycle all of the waste that is practical to recycle, and never burn it. An incin- erator was built next to a Wisconsin dairy farmer's barn. This farmer opened his barn door one morning, and all of his dairy herd lay dead from the pollution. To my knowledge, all of these incinerators have been shut down at this time. One U.S. Congressman has come up with a new concept for the rub- bish. He must know that burning rubbish is bad. His idea is that if you call incineration "recycling incineration", then that incinera- tion is not burning, and so it will not hurt you. I would like you to use this material in any way that will help the ecology. I believe that I am working in the plastic recycling not to make money, but to help the ecology and reduce the pollution. If I am able to reduce the amount of pollution one speck, then I am suc- cessful. Leo Shattuck - PEOPLE AGAINST POLLUTIO1 (P.A.P. ) Rt. 1 Box 10 walnut Grove mi'. 56160 My name is Leo Shattuck, and I have started a new association called people Against pollution, (P.A.P. ) . I believe that the pollution is a very frightening situation. people in the world are dying from the pollution. we all live in this world, and the weather patterns circulate the pollution poi- son around the whole world. If people are dying in Mexico City from the pollution, people in Washington D.C. will eventually die from the pollution. I am doing what I can to stop the pollution. I have developed a machine to recycle the plastic containers and plastic film from the homes and industry. The world is just beginning to understand the problem that pol- lution poison can give. I hope the actions of the world will not turn out to be too little and too late. The atmosphere is becoming polluted at such a fast rate that I believe the most important thing I can do for the rnerrbers of people Against pollution, (P.A.P. ) is to find places in this world where they can go where little or no pollution has reached, and maybe they can live a little longer. This I am doing. much of the used plastic is being burned. This is very harmful, and the burning of plastic must stop. Recycle it ! The way pollution affects most people is as follows; first your eyes start to burn and water, and become very irritated; you feel the effect of the pollution in your nostrils, and in your breathing. most people will develop a great deal of phlegm, and start sneezing and blowing. The longer you stay in the pollution, the greater the effects upon your body. you will have headaches, often starting at the front of your head, and later have what I call mental distor- tion. pollution is cumulative, and no two people are affected in the same way, because the people have not breathed the same air. people who are under a doctor' s care can be affected by so.rre drugs, and can often snake them mentally distorted. pollution can have an effect upon a person's mind and body similar to the effect of the prescription drugs. lzemember that pollution poison accumulates in the body. If the pollution. will dissipate out of the body after a time is an unknown factor. Lead is one of the real bad pollutants. Lead in the atmos- phere can cause you to lose your memory permanantly. Remember: A polluted person is a person who inflicts pollution poison upon himself on purpose. A person who smokes _ is a polluted person; the same is true of a person who lives in a place that is polluted. The problem is that the person who lives in a polluted place may be having mental distortions from the pollution, and is not aware of the pollution. Leo Shattuck/plastek pt. 1 Box 10 walnut Grove, j In.561 L0 • Tel. ;x507-659-2732 I have the plaster, Chopper for sale. It is powered with a 15 H.P. electric motor. It sells for 34„50.00. The machine produces chips of plastic 1 inch in size and smaller. The chips are then ground in a regular plastic granulator. The machine blows the plastic chips in- to a 4'x3' hardboard box. The chips are taken out of the 41x8' box, and put on to an inspection board. The inspection of the plastic is very important. This helps to raise the quality of plastic processed. The plastic is then granulated. I have mostly processed H.D.P.E. Most companies want the plastic separated by color. The translucent (clear) . H.D.P.E. is separated from the white, and other colors. There are businesses that have blow mold machines where have waste plastic. I have had a great deal of this plastic in the past. H.D.P. E. plastic from homes was mixed with the plastic from the blow mold machines, as well as a great deal of other plastic from businesses, like 5 gal. jugs, 5 gal. pails, and larger H.D.P.E. drums. when the buyer would accept L.D.P.E, then some film was blended with the II.D. P.E. as the machine was fed. I am processing plastic in southern Minnesota at this time. I am doing this to demonstrate the plastek chopper, and to teach new plas- tic recyclers what they have to know to produce a quality recycled H.D.P.E. I will try to answer the question you asked me in your letter. The plastek Chopper is available to be used anywhere. I am searching for markets for the granules we produce, and can help a recycler sell the plastic. I have recycled H.D.P.E. for over ten years, and have a wide range of experience in finding supplies of plastic, and build- ings to operate out of. I may have a plastek Chopper available at any time, but I may need one month to build a machine. I have people processing plastic in Wisconsin, Missouri, and Minnesota, and I am talking to people all across the U.S.A. and Canada, who are interested in starting to re- cycle plastic. I will enclose some literature about me, the plastek Chopper, and my desire to help the world control pollution. I have started an or- ganization called "People Against pollution” (P.A.P. ) , and I am teach- ing people how to become a Human, living, breathing pollution moni- toring instrument. Sincerely yours Leo Shattuck �'Z' !�� js s tY ' :j„ e,. . %af & Y y / / $ 'b �' is sa / l :;,-,..k., :sg. 3s a ,. 'Ffir-P5",.. .W'k,..:;.' .- tv a,1-,..,,, :, , „:—/: b — ,,,,,,, ; •,‘;;Ajtfr ' 1.4,' ..",:t”7 Gracie and Leo Shattuck of Walnut Grove are hoping to establish a plastic recycling business In Marshall. (Photo by Ted Cornwell) , __ _ Recycling advocate hopes machine will hel p cause By TED CORNWELL developed Plastic Choppers and a Shattuck also'believes recycling Staff Writer granulator to reduce plastic jugs and can help lireserve the environment MARSHALL — While interest containers to chips that can be from pollutants that he believes are in recycling continues to grow, shipped in boxes. A full box already having a dramatic effect on many recyclers say markets for contains 800 to 1,000 pounds of people. _ recycled material are becoming plastic chips. "I teach people how to become a scarce. Producing quality plastic chips living, breathing, human pollution Leo Shattuck of Walnut Grove requires cleaning the containers and monitor," Shattuck said. disagrees. While prices have removing paper labels, Shattuck He said airborne pollution causes dropped,he says markets still exist said. his eyes to become itchy,increases for quality recycled plastic. He has He said people from all over the phlegm in his throat and eventually developed a process to reduce plas- country have expressed an interest leads to mental distortion, which tic jugs and containers to granulated in his Plastek Chopper for recycling Shattuck defines as effects similar chips that can easily be handled for plastic. The machine costs $4,950. to those people experience while recycling. The Plastek Chopper shreds the under prescription drugs. He said prices for granulated plastic, and a granulator then He said lead pollution is particu- plastic are 10 to 12 cents lower than reduces the plastic to smaller chips. larly dangerous. they were a year ago. Currently, Shattuck said he is negotiating "If you get enough of it,you lose prices range from 20 to 25 cents a with someone in Marshall who is your memory completely,"he said. pound, but he expects prices to interested in operating the system Shattuck believes agricultural rebound in the future. here. chemicals and pollution that Shattuck has rented space in Making plastic recycling profit- depletes the atmosphere's ozone Marshall and has brought to able requires hard work and an layer need to be curtailed. Marshall one of his personally emphasis on quality, he said. See SHATTUCK on Page 14 He,said garbage incinerators also Shattuck sometimes gets up at 4 are a source of dangerous pollution, a.m. to get an early start on his and he urged public officials to work. devote more energy to recycling I am anxious to get the world projects that have fewer adverse doing this. You don't have to be effects on the environment. "Recycling is not to burn it. crazy like me,but it helps,"he said. Burning is pollution," he said. Shattuck also has formed a At age 76, Shattuck works on group, People Against Pollution, recycling projects out of a concern that seeks to raise awareness about for the environment rather than the effects pollution has on people. because of financial need.His wife, Shattuck said he searches for places Gracie,also works on the recycling in the world where people can still systems. escape the effects of pollution. F9- / vf PLASTET: CHOPPER Model P C• 15 Recycle plastic containers-milk bottles, anti-freeze, etc. Milf51.1.1111.1"."- . T The Plastek Chopper will chop -, 300-400 lbs. per hr. One lb. of 4... ,_` -- . 4, recycled plastic is equal to two 1 1 lbs. Of crude Oil• • ` ' n.;• 15 ff P, 3 phase, belt drive. ' Principle moving parts replaceable. Reduces volume approx. times. The Plastek Chopper reduces the i.r:i. 6, plastic bottles to chips one inch in size and smaller. The chips are ground using a piss- . :, , a. tic granulator. 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Plastics made from oil can in our area.I have been down to look\ other night while I was milking and be recycled if they are properly at the machines. have seen the 1 we reached our annual agreement as ' taken care of. Leo developed this finished product and know that it 1 to how, when, and where we will be i series of machines which will take works. The time has come for this hunting. This is very important. I your old milk bottles, soap bottles invention,and if world oil prices rise, Each of us desires to have I and the like,hard plastics.and break it would be a worthwhile venture. everything for ourselves, but by lll. them down into easily reusable taking the time to talk before the products. He has developed markets I might toss in something here season starts, we can reach an where these finished recycled which will get me in trouble with a lot arrangement so that each can get the products can be sold. We can use of friends. If we as individuals don't most enjoyment without infringing 1 products that are discards over do something about recycling solid very much on the other. I again for such things as garbage waste,the local government will and bags, flower pots, sewer or drain that will be putting a big drain on our The second friend, the one from pipe and many other non food local taxes and we don't need any 1 Chippewa Falls, called while I was ( products. (I had better toss this in: more taxes. The private sector, milking last night to tell me that he ; never, never use garbage bags to small local shops, can run this w ill be stopping at the flea merket place food items in. Garbage bags operation far more economically. with the first of the fall crop of ap- are recycled products and you can't pies. He is just one of the many local t know just what contamination might I mentioned clean product. The or semi-local people who run small ! be in that bag.) price paid for clean finished product truck gardens. orchards or such and is fur more than the price paid for who bring their produce out for you ! Now back to Leo and his in- dirty product and that is one of the to purchase without the use of a I ventions. He has set up three of these problems. Transportation of dirty middleman. operations in southern Minnesota finished product would eat up any now and is looking for investors in profits of processing the plastics at Now for the-third friend and, in this area.The two machines cost less the present time, hence the need of many ways, maybe the most im- than a small imported automobile. public awareness, if you are in- , portapt one As most of you know, I The product is available only if the terested, call me out here on the . have a phobia,an unnatural fear. As public cooperates, and that is the farm and I'll have Leo get in touch 'far as I can see;there isn't a medical bigpestdrawbaek—availability. it you. To the has coMe out name. for my phobia so I coined the name plastoecophobia—the fear that We have to be the biggest wasters throughout the countryside,reducing plastics will completely cover the of natural resources on the face of the plastic into a reusable product. ` environment as they don't break the earth.While only a small amount - down.At the rate we are going,I give of our total oil usage goes into the ( The Sage asked me the other night, the area east of the Mississippi a making of plastics, the simple act-of ( -"How many great men are living in century until it is covered with recycling would ease the balance of I the United States today?" "One less plastic,blacktop and cement.Now to payment deficit. Recycling would than you think?" I countered. This the friend. save our landfills, as plastic jugs. was after I talked over the plastic bottles and other products are quite , with him.The Sage offered Leo lived in Balsam Lake years bulky. Some people burn plastics. two pieces of sound business advice. ago, while I was a lad. He had an This creates pollution that is one of I. There is no free lunch, and 2. inventive mind. lie could take any the sources of acid rain. One of the You'll never go broke making a problem and break it down to a primary emissions of burning oil- `` profit. But then he's not farming in common denominator. he looked at based plastics is hydrogen sulfide 4 today's world. One of the , \ the plastics we are accumulating so gas, H2S and, when added to water. Georgetown boys-was telling me that rapidly. These plastics are made 112504, sulferic acid. I am hoping his hay crop was so short that he had from oil, which we are for the most that somebody with the time and a to lather the field to cut it. • people Against , pollution "P.A.P." lit. 1 Box 10 Walnut Grove, mn. 56180 poison chemicals are being used on agricultural land in the U.S.A. It used to be common practice for agricultural land to be cultivated with farm implements to control the growth of unwant- ed weeds and plants. when the weeds were killed off by cultiva- tion, the soil benefited by the composting of these weeds. The composting of the weeds helped to make the soil loose, which al- lowed rain or moisture to soak into the ground, and improved . the condition of the soil. when the land is no longer cultivated, it has become very hard, especially in the prairie country of southern Minnesota. Any rain that falls is easily evaporated out of the soil, which is very det- rimental to the crops. I noticed in March in southern Minnesota, that the land was bare. There was no snow cover on the land, and there was no rani. when the poison weed killers and anhydrous am- monia are used on the soil, these poisons are leached into the air, and are very hazardous to our health. The shallow wells in south- ern minnesota are all poisoned, and people are having their water from tested sources hauled to them. When there is no snow or rain, the poison chemicals do not seep down into the ground, but are bleached out of the ground into the air, and poison the people. The manufacturer of the farm chemicals state in their litera- ture that they will not assume any liability for the harm done by these farm chemicals. This is an example of the statement on the chemical literature. “The information and procedures contained herein are based on the best information available to the company, and are believed to be correct. However, no warranty is expressed or implied regarding the accuracy of the procedures, or implied, regarding the accuracy of the procedures or information. Those uti- lizing the information and information contained herein must as- sume all risks of use and handling of the product". Somebody has to take the blame for the harm done by these chemicals. If a person has to go to the expense of moving out of a place poisoned by these chemicals, someone is going to have to pay. If the government puts its okay on the use of these chemicals, then the expense of traveling out of the polluted. area should be a credit against any income tax a person pays. We at P.A.P. are re- searching the world to find areas where there is less pollution. The pollution of the farm chemicals added to all the other pol- lution from autos and burning has been proven to cause many very serious health problems, like cancer and T.B. -and is causing death in humans, birds, fish and animals. people Against pollution (P.A.P. ) Rt. 1 Box 10 Walnut Grove Mn. 56180 I believe that pollution in the atmosphere is one of the most important causes of stress ii. our bodies. pollution is everywhere. An extreme example of pollution which causes stress is a gas refrigerator, which can cause death. I believe das refrigerators were outlawed years ago. We made a very serious mistake that we did not realize twenty years ago that the whole world would become polluted like the homes were from the gas refrigerators. Cigarette smoking has been proven to cause stress in the smoker, as well as the person who inhales the smoke. Everyone' s ability for fighting disease is an individual _ ability, and no two people are exactly alike. I believe that - in' today' s world, pollution is the greatest deterrent for our immune system to function properly. I have a burning desire to help the world solve the prob- lem of pollution poison. It may be too late to solve the prob- lem. One of the things I have done is to have written some songs. One of my songs is entitled ',It' s lever Too Late" , arid I try to live by the psychology of this song. I believe that a person can recognize the pollution in the air by the way he feels. In most people, the first he will no- . tice is that his eyes will burn and become irritated . Next he will notice irritation in his nostrils, throat and sinuses. Often he will have a running nose, and start sneezing, like he has caught a cold . Often he will have a great deal of phlegm, and have a sinus headache. When the person has accumulated e- nough pollution poison, he will have mental distortions.. I will try to explain what I call mental distortion. A person who has been under a doctors' care, and has to take a great deal of medication can become irrational, or mentally distort- ed from the drugs. mental distortion can be a state of mind, this is like a cross of being asleep and being awake. I be- lieve that pollution can have an effect upon a persons' mind uuch like other drugs. A person can fight mental distortion if he is aware of it by trying to think of a subject that is pleasant to him. There are many cities in this world where the people are suffering from such a great amount of pollution, that the peo- ple are having mental distortions, and these people are not aware of the pollution. There are many kinds of pollutants in our atmosphere, and many of the pollutants are cumulative. The lead we inhale can cause the loss of memory permanently. Nobody knows the effects of all of the poisonous pollutions, the effect of pollution's is cumulative. • No one knows if the cumulation of pollutants will dissipate out of the body after a period of time. The world is producing new pollutants almost continually, which makes our knowledge of . pollution inadequate. A polluted person is a person who inflicts pollution poison . on his person on purpose. A person who smokes or drinks inflicts pollution on his person on purpose, the same as the person who uses elicit drugs, like cocaine and marijuana. A person who con- tinues to live in an area which is highly polluted is a polluted person. The problem is that this person may be having :rental dis- tortions from the pollution, and is not aware of the problem. The problem with the polluted atmosphere is that it is creeping up on us un-noticed . One writer has said that 600 people'. die. eve- ry day in Ijexico city from the pollution. Another writer said that 600, 000 people died in ;-;exico from the pollution during the last administration, which was a six year period. pollution in the U.S. night be worse than the pollution in l. exico, except for the larger cities like I jexico City. I have been trying to help pollution with a machine I have invented, which recycles the plastic containers and plastic file. when plastic is being burned, it is very hazardous to our health. To breathe it causes a great deal of stress, and can lead to men- tal distortion. I would like to see that more is being done a- bout the deadly pollution in the U.S.A. I have started an organization which is called 'people A- gainst pollution'', or p A p, and one of the benefits to the mem- bers is that I an searching for places in the world where the members can go where very little pollution has reached. people Against pollution Rt. 1 Box 10 ;;walnut Grove ;.:n. 56130 • ` PEOPLE AGAINST POLLUTION Et. . 1 , i x 10 Walnut Grove , MN . 561H0 Dear Sir : All kinds of burning will add to the polluted atmosphere . When cities have been tested for pollution , they are tested for lead , carbon monoxide , and ozone . The U . H . O . established the following limits for these pollutants, . 15 mil ] i ;>r.ims per cubic meter for lead , . 11 parts per million for ozone , 30 parts per million for carbon monoxide . When I talk about all kinds of burning , I like to use the term carbon dioxide . When we heat our homes , and businesses , the combustion of the fuel leaves off carbon dioxide , and carbon monoxide . Carbon dioxide adds to the pollution . Carbon monoxide will be released when combustion is not 100% complete . 100% complete combustion does not happen in these heating plants , so there is some carbon monoxide . When refuse is being burned outside , combustion is not. complete . You can expect that there will be some carbon monoxide released . There is a great deal of burning being done of agricultural land in Teas . It is a common practice to burn sugar cane fields after the crop is harvested . When sprays , and poisons are used on fields , the poison is put into the air we breathe . When I talk about refuse being burned outside , I think of Mexico , where refuse- is being burned in all areas . The land- fills are being burned constantly . At Lake Chapala you can see the smoke from the landfills all around the lake . You are aware of the pollution in the atmosphere by the way you feel . Automobiles release a lot of carbon dioxid : and earhvn iu uxido. and ether poll ut ants all over the world . Something 4 has to he done to cut down on this pollution . A gre;: ter use of buses , and other mass transportation would be a way to help reduce pollution . Dr . Ruben Shturman , chief of the deN:rtment of allergic , and respiratory illnesses of the hospital Infantil Privado , pointed to some of the health effects of exposure to high con- centrations of carbon monoxide , lead , and ozone . (a) The immediate effects of exposure to high carbon mon- , oxide levels include drowsiness , headaches , slow reflexes , and poor coordination . Repeated exposure to these levels can per- manently damage bodily tissues , triggering heart attacks , hyper- tension, strokes , and other severe health problems . (b) Exposure to high lead concentrations mainly damages the central nervous system. Tnis causes both hyperactivism , and lethargy, as well as memory loss . (c ) Exposure to high ozone levels can cause asthma , allergies, and a wide range of other respiratory problems , and possibly lead to cancer. Smokers are doubling the damage done to their health by the poisonous pollution. PEOPLE AGAINST POLLUTION Leo Shattuck Rt . 1 , Box 10 Walnut Grove , MN . 561bO • The whole world is becoming polluted , which means that if people in Mexico City are dying from pollution , people in Wash- ington D. C . will eventually die from the pollution poison when it reaches there . There are many cities in the U. S .A . that are pollution disasters . We all live in this world , and the weather patterns mix all of the air of the world . After a period of time , the air from the polluted cities will spread across the country, and the world If 600 ,000 people died in Mexico from the pollution during the last administration, then people across the world will eventually die from the pollution . I have been in Guadalajara , and after two hours in that city , the pollution was affecting me so much I had to leave . The way the pollution affects most people is as follows ; first your eyes start to burn and water and become very irritated You feel the effect of the pollution in your nostrils and in your breathing . Most people will develop a great deal of phlegm and start sneezing and blowing . The longer you stay in the pollution , the greater the effects upon your body . You will have headaches , often starting at the bo;c0,1lgT of your head and later you can become mentally distorted. Pollution is cumulative , and no two peole are affected in the sar::e way , because the two people have not always bathed the same air . The greatest danger to the U. S.A. is for the pollution from the whole world to pollute our atmosphere . Fighting pollution shculd be considered a world war and the whole world should help in fighting this war , or the whole world will die . People who are under a doctors car can be affected by some drugs , and often make them mentally distorted . Pollution can have an effect upon a persons mind and body , sirailar to the effect of prescribed drugs . The use of plastic has become very wide spread , and it is a very convenient way to package products . As soon as people find out that plastic is polluting the atmosphere , they talk about making it illegal to manufacture plastic products . Gov•- t*_nment could pass laws that would greatly hurt the plastic business . We must not let this happen . We will have to re- cycle all of the waste ,plastic in a way that does not pollute the atmosphere . I have developed a machine for recycling plastic , and there is one maching. operating in western Wisconsin . This man is re- cycling H .D . P . E . scrap from a blow mold machine in the Twin Cities area . This plastic is the same as virgin plastic , and it was going to landfills before I started recycling plastic . A machine will be set up in South Texas where there is high quality plastic available . I have successfully recycled plastic for ten years . I sold the plastic granules to companies who made agricultural tile , lawn edgings , and many other products . I need markets for the plastic granules all across the U . S .': . I believe that it is in the best interests of everyone who is in the plastic business to cooperate in finding ways to re- claim the plasstic that is going into landfills , or is being burned . Plastic is being burned all across Mexico , and is polluting our atmosphere . NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING The St. Paul City Council Public Works Committee-of-the-Whole, will hold a public hearing, as required under the Minnesota Waste Management Act, as amended,on Jul 13,1989,at,7:00 P.M. in the City Council Chambers,3rd floor of City Hall, to receive testimony and comment from citizens about developing an organized refuse collection system for St.Paul. Please contact Bruce Hoheisel at 298-5309 to indicate your desire to speak at the public hearing. Dated June 21, 1989. ROGER GOSWITZ, Chairperson Public Works Committee (June 24, 1989) NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING The St. Paul City Council will hold a public hearing, as required under the Minnesota Waste Management Act, as amended, on August 24, 1989 at 9:00 a.m. in the City Council Chambers, 3rd floor of City Hall, to receive testimony and comment from citizens about developing an organized refuse collection system for St. Paul. Please contact Bruce Hoheisel at 298-5309 to indicate your desire to speak at the public hearing. 411 /9 Dated A-c c i 6_ ©(.s o%/ G I TY GL Eat(- CAU(rtiSi •D- ,q&c0 ( NOC OF PUBLIC TIHEE ARING The St. Paul City Coun- cil will hold a public hearing, as required under the Min- nesota Waste Management Act, as amended, on August 24, 1989 at 9:00 a.m. m fFe ncil Chambers, 3rd floor of City Hall, to receive testimony and comment from citizens about developing an organized refuse collection system for St. Paul. Please contact Bruce Hoheisel at 298-5309 to indicate your de- sire to speak at the public hearing. Dated August 3, 1989 Albert B.Olson City Clerk Press Disp,Aug 5,no.977 Y ,'9-,ion £ ,:- 4 v tt. . t...i, 1....f: h i IL; • t4 i. 4. .y A 1 USc`C CYCLE .. . 1Ub EAST PARTS A�LIS'''GTCld AVE 'Uc >' RITA ACAM� .� �. SAINT PAJL MN SS117 4 DISTRICT ...wet., '` 5 PSTRE IT COUNCIL t 935 DE SCTC STREET 1' �A I NT PALL MN 55101, JOHN AJEK rt l i 1:311 HILLCREST AVENUE CIANE AHRENS i. 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Munrox SAINT PAUL MN 55105 W.7th Communications Center ; `� �,, 265 Oneida '•4+%,i, St. Paul, MN. 55102 a's ' •SILL DUNN Y JAMES DUSSC _ � � _ SOLID WASTE UNIT PROGRAM 1EVELOPME1 COMPAS 520 LAFAYETTE ROAD NORTH 75 WEST FIFTH STREET SAINT PAUL MN 55113 f SAINT PAUL MN 5510? ... .. >r•. . v ta..,':y.' s.!'C' 't:.>K'. _ e„T- .. ., -.. yn ixi. EARTH PROTECTOR INC # FAST METRO CCLIRIER 1138 PLYMOUTH BUILDING 1 SUITE 23 s` MINNEAPOLIS MN 55402 if 1599 SELeY AVENUE it SAINT PAUL MN 55104 ' EAVESDROPPER r RUSSELL EDHLUND 1335 SELBY AVENUE WALDCRF CORPCRTATION SAINT PAUL MN 55104 1 ?250 WABASH AVENUE SAINT PALL MN 55 114 • EDWARD W. EGGLRS t LINDA FT EDS TRUCKING 657 LAUREL AVENUE 333 LAWSON EAST AVENUE SAINT PAUL MN 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55101 ow 5.,: r ENERGY RESOURCE CENT JUANE E \GLUND y. 427 SI. CLAIR AV: NUE ti; LEAGUE OF ' O E N VoT;=Rv P 4 1N3WN;JE1AN3 NVS2•?f1 ' 3 1J111Wrt:UJ '- JJG ;i:. t (1 "NiNd MrLINUld r j. , I. 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CR" rts.x, .isCVrar _'v..y'pr'.:. S" j-9r.;,5. ..:;e.:'e, '+Jr f ::,,- ,:.,sSb',.,., 4•._.,-• -lyt:.:.:r}�•i a'..a'Y.W, ;..la. Yp ;fl, t •Ro t' JIM JACO3S PAT JAMES DAYTON HUDSON DEPARTMENT STORE CO. ' 1100 CITY HALL ANNEX `` 700 ON THE MALL SAINT PAUL MN 5510 2 AMINNEAPOLIS MN 5i402 ..:.r:n.l.,. -.•.•._.. .. r:::.- ..•,...... . _ o. ..,,,,..;n„, w.a. .r .i. MARSHA JANSEN! GERALDINE JENK INS ..W MINNESOTA PROJECT COMM. DLV. DIV. PED '3 2222 ELM STREET SE ' 14TH FLOCR CITY HALL ANNEX MINNEAPOLIS l 1 55414 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 t • BLANCHE JOHNSON CURTIS JCH1SDN RICE AREA CITIZENS t CITIZENS LEAGUE ;� 65 E. AC ER 70S SOUTH,' 7RD STREET mi. SAINT PAUL MN 55117 MINNEAPOLIS MN 55415 ;i. .•tom., ....r. .. ar+ ..'i?..'d ds , ...r%V'.'!%vt..._ 'V r x, GEORGE E. JOHNSON JOHNNY JOHNSON t IP DISTRICT #2 115 SATES 1946 EAST LA ;PENTEU1 AVENUE SAINT PAUL MN 55105 SAINT PAUL MN 55109 • r•' N.ARVI N JOHNSON ROBERT JCHNSON I LAND USE TASK FORCE , DISTRICT 1 CCMMUNTIY COUNCIL • 115 JESSAMINE AVENUE WEST 413 BURLINGTON RCAD h '.4k SAINT PAUL MN 55117 ' SAINT PAUL MN 55119 u..• .. :r._.....ro.,.....,;.,n. R...ra!rv,a,.•ur..--� ::.,..,..w+%.v+'.•:.-.... -. +• s:,w-am.<.s.r••.ar,.�...+w,r m.x..,er,..0£.' ,rt.., y. SHONNA JOHNSONSUSAN JOFNEON 'V 12621 W . CREEK ROAD 1450 FAIFMCNT t'INNETCNKA MN 55343 SAINT PAUL MN 55105 <r r..i.-, ,. ... ....n.,rr w.l',.,ti.-:�•.. .;t: .... 1. f: „... ,.t ,.- . ... ..i:: s,:_. s. ,. PETER JORDAN ' ALMA JOSEPI W 1475 MYTHE ` SUMMIT UENIVERSITY PLN6 COUNCIL FAINT PAUL MN 55100 365 SUMMIT AVENUE SAINT PAUL MN 5510? I 1 ':' FLORENCE E. JUDGE JAMES P. KACHEL � . SUMMIT AVENUE RESIDL'N PRESERVA MICK!=Y 'S CITY WILE RUBBISH SERIVCF ' 2241 SUMMIT AVENUE 1230 PT. OCUGLAS SOUTH ROM') F' SAINT PAUL MN 55105 SAINT PAUL MN 55114 Y-d:S: - R.. �,.; t/lr.::J" l':a •>:7•.• '.•+1..`_tCH:W •Y, t.'C �,6p. '}!2T:•S 4N1.:::. :2. i.' .t. E . C' . .1.- ?- .. . 11 CI NDI .KA:IRHANN �LU.IHLD W . KAMISH 1 2232 CAR-ER AVNEUE A KAMISH AND SONS INC fi14 5010 CONCORD BLVD SAINT PAUL MN .55103 INVER GRCVFR HTS MN 55075 .-.,-.X a..Ir..:a"..,.: r,.,.... y .. .-'r..arc..-.. ,. ,.w•. a DONALD KARAS JOSEPH G. KARAS IP BEN KARAS TRUCKING TWIN CITY REFUSE AND RECYCLING INC ,; 515 CENTURY AVENUE 318 WATE■1 LEST STREET . NEWPORT MN 55055 SAINT PAUL MN 55107 ::.a.,,-, ......•_�r�. .,... .- :-a ,,..;i ...:.:atis-.,..awu a:' .:a, y,t:.h•_.. -.n.., o TOM KAYSER STEVE XEEFE 466 SOUTH MISS. RIVER BLVD. NETRCPCLITAN COUNCIL SAINT PAUL .1N 55105 PEARS 'PAPK CENTRE Ai 230 CAST FIFTH STREET SAINT PAUL MN 55 101 • :tK. 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PAUL CIVIC CENTER PERSONNEL WEST 4TH STREET 365 CITY HALL SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 >\ " CAROLYN GILrMAN TOM GLANDE.F , . ;1! 1540 ASHLAND AVENUE SUPER CYCLE INCORPORATED }`s #18 775 RICE STREET ,, SAINT PAUL N 55104 SAINT PAUL MN 55117 . .t -. 4 V. N '` : TIM COCOMAN ROGER GOSWITZ acv ' CERSHMAN, DR ICKN R AND 3RATT0 d CITY COUNCIL r`� 23 EMPIRE DRIVE 701 CITY HALL iii SUITE 255 SAINT PAUL MN 55102 SAINT PAUL MN 55103 ftR jrr . � :--., n...,....�:'. :r- �",yea°x.�'a:. .,. ..,.. .Oy.'.n-.p.�,'. yy itNY y ,. a ' w ik: CHARLES J. GRAHAM CRAND GAZETTE NAMLINE UNIVERSITY . 757 SOUTh SNELLING AVENUE 1536 HEWITT AVENUE SAINT PAUL MN 55115 ,�,,X��y� "�' SAINT PAUL MN 55104 1 :g1�.,', - .. ,._r.;i•..:.-.. ..':. ,.R:. ..,..aab+. +eMr--.:. . ._ _ :rr-:,. ,,. ... , ,a,,:,n...,t, e4a n c. 0 GREAT WESTERN INCH ` EREENPEACE USA. ,. 521 BARGE CHANNEL 90AD " CR'EENPEACE USA ,•, ' . SAINT PAUL MN 55107 1611 CONNECTICUT AVENUE NW i ';'. W`ASHINCTCN DC 10070 Ot,• ,w-. ..`J.;.. 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INVER GROVE HIS NN 55075 : SAINT PAUL MN 55103 ''% HAL NORGARD NORTH AM WATER O F FIC • RAMSEY COUNTY BOARD OF COMM NORTH AMFtCIAN WATER OFFICE (WATER 316 COURTHOUSE 1519A EAST FRANKLIN AVENUE SAINT PAUL MI 55102 MINNEAPOLIS MN 55404 q NORTH ENE NEWS HURT}{ END DUB. C LU. ` P.O. bOX 17014 •1021 MARION STREET SAINT PAUL MN 55117 SAINT PAUL MN 55117 .rte.. KEVIN c �co ��O RICHARD C ' CONNCR 4.}. �: � PADELLA SPEER BURDICK 3 eEARi)SLEY MINN. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES rYr 425 LUMBER EXCHANGE 1530 ARKWRIGHT STREET ,. 10 SOUTH 5TH STREET SAINT PAUL MN 55101 ?'.INNEAPOLIS MN 55402 µ.,... I. PETE OBERLE SUSAN CEHLIN , a ' TURSSO COMPANIES ; HIGHLAND PARK SANITATION . 223 PLATO BLVD EAST CENTURY AVENUE /y. SAINT PAUL MN 55107 NEWPORT MN 55055 4 LI LARRY CLHRLEIN �,.> . y.�.M. .. . RUGE N.OEHRLFIN : O.O '—) PT. DOUGLAS ! R AND M `ANITATICN SAINT PAUL MN 55119 : 853 PT . DOUGLAS ROAD • SAINT PAUL MN 55 119 i. 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