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Green Sheet # 3106336
RESOLUTION
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1 BE IT RESOLVED, that Yhe Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the March
2 16, 2010 decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer for Appeals of Letters, Deficiency Lists, and Denial of
3 Building Permits to Replace Egress Windows for the following addresses:
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5 Property Appealed Appellant
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7 905 White Bear Avenue North Rod Beseman
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9 Decision: Grant an 8-inch variance on the openable height of the bedroom egress windows throughout the
10 building; deny the appeal and grant an extension to May 1, 2010 to repair the window glass in Unit 3 and
11 Unit 6.
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13 2020 Worcester Avenue Bryan Horton, Renewal by Anderson
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15 Decision: Deny the appeal.
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17 1796 Ivy Avenue East Window World
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19 Decision: Deny the appeal.
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21 1748 Marvland Avenue East WindQw World
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23 Decision: Deny the appeal.
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25 609 Sims Avenue Heu Lang Chuyangheu
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27 Decision: Grant a 3.5-inch variance on the openable height of the egress window in bedroom 2. The
28 fumiture blocking the egress window in bedroom 1 must be moved so the window can be measured at re-
29 inspection. The appellant must pull a permit for the work done on the railing at the rear of the house and
30 have the railing inspected (the permit fee will not be doubled).
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32 1807 Stillwater Avenue TrusYees Donald & Beverly Glaser
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34 Decision: Grant a 5-inch variance on the openable height of the bedroom egress windows in all units; deny
35 the appeal and grant an extension to August 1, 2010 to bring the deadbolt heiUht into compliance in all
36 units.
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38 250 Birminaham Street Abby Barber, EIG Fund LLC
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40 Decision: Deny the appeal and grant an extension to June 1, 2010 for the retaining wall and exterior items.
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Resolution approving the Mazch 16, 2010 decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer for Appeals of Letters, Deficiency Lists, and
Denial of Building Permits to Replace Egress Windows for properties at 905 White Bear Ave N, 2020 Worcester Ave, 1796 Ivy Ave
E, 1748 Maryland Ave E, 609 Sims Ave, 1807 Stillwater Ave, 250 Birmingham St, and 536 Lexington Pkwy.
Recommendations: Approve (A) or Reject (R): Personal Service Contrects Must Answer the Following Questions:
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current city employee?
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MINUTES OF THE LEGISLATNE HEARING OFFICER
ON APPEALS OF LETTERS OF DEFICIENCY,
VACANT BUILDING REGISTRATION NOTICES & FEES,
AND DENIAL OF BUILDING PERMITS
Tuesday, March 16, 2010
Room 330 City Hall, 15 Kellogg Blvd. West
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 135 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Leanna Shaff, Department of Safety and Inspections (DSI) — Fire; Jim Seeger,
DSI — Code Enforcement; Steve Ubl, DSI— Building Inspections; Mai Vang, City Council Offices
1. Appeal of Rod Beseman to a Certificate of Occupancy Deficiency List for property at 905
White Bear Avenue North.
Appellant Rod Beseman (9114 Princeton Court Woodbury, MN 55125) appeared.
Ms. Shaff stated taht Inspector Skow-Fiske conducted an inspection for the Fire C of O on February
19 and reported double-hung egress windows with openable dimensions of 16.25 inches high by
30.25 inches wide, and window glass in need of repair in Units 3 and 6.
Ms. Moermond noted that the inspector's report gave a glazed area of 3.4 ft for the double-hung
egress window. Ms. Shaff clarified; Ms. Moermond stated for the record that the correct glazed
area was approximately 7 ft.
Mr. Beseman stated that he was asking for more time to replace the broken glass and was requesting
a variance on the egress window size.
Ms. Moermond said that for windows with an openable height in the 16 inch range she looked for
two additional inches in width for every inch in height shortfall. Mr. Beseman said it was a six-unit
stucco and brick building, and replacing the windows would involve considerable expense. He said
he owned the building for over 10 years and had been trying to sell it for three years. The building
had a negative cash flow, and replacing the windows would be a financial hazdship.
Ms. Moermond asked whether there were stoppers at the tops of the windows. Mr. Beseman said
he didn't think there were. He said the building had passed four or five other inspections.
Ms. Moermond asked Ms. Shaff what class the building was. Ms. Shaff said it was mixed. Mr.
Beseman said he'd gone throu�h the state and had the class changed to all residential but the city
still had it listed as mixed. He said he was working on having it changed.
Ms. Moermond recommended granting an 8-inch variance on the openable height of the bedroom
egress windows throughout the building; deny the appeal and �rant an extension to May 1, 2010 to
repair the window glass in Unit 3 and Unit 6.
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2. Appeal of Bryan Horton, Renewal by Anderson, to the denial of building permit to replace
egress windows for property at 2020 Worcester Avenue.
Appellant Bryan Horton (1920 County Road C West, Roseville, MN 55113) and Bob Snyder
appeared.
Ms. Shaff stated that the egress windows met the size requirements but the sill height was 54 inches.
She said the inspector's report gave options for addressing sill height. Mr. Snyder said the options
were to alter the opening and install a different window, or install a step. He said installing a step
was not desirable but the homeowner was not opposed to altering the opening. He said he was not
encountering enforcement of this ordinance in any other municipality and asked why it was being
enforced now in St. Paul.
Ms. Moermond said the requirement had been part of the Minnesota Fire Code for a long time and
she didn't lrnow why it was not being enforced in other municipalities.
Mr. Snyder said it seemed as like homeowners were paying the bill for the discrepancies between
the fire code and building code.
Ms. Moermond recommended denying the appeal.
3. Appeal of Window World to the denial of building permit to replace egress windows for
property at 1796 Ivy Avenue East.
Appellant Patrick Hoy (2211 East 11"' Avenue, N. St. Paul, MN 55109) and Esther Daul appeared.
Ms. Shaff stated that the appeal was for a building permit denial for double-hung egress windows
with openable dimensions of 15.93 inches high by 27.21 inches wide.
Ms. Moermond said that for windows with an openable height in the 16 inch range she looked for
two additional inches in width for every inch in height shortfall, and the windows being appealed
did not meet those criteria.
Mr. Hoy said the windows met three of the four requirements. He said it was hard to get an
adequate openable size with double-hung windows, and homeowners were reluctant to change
window style or take on the additional expense of changing the windows. He asked for a variance.
Ms. Moermond clarified the square footage requirement with Mr. Ubl. Mr. Ubl confirmed that the
minimum requirement was 5 ft. Ms. Moermond stated that there was too much of a shortfall in
openable height and she could not recommend a variance.
Mr. Hoy said he didn't understand why building inspectors were enforcing the fire code. He said
the state code required that replacement windows installed in rental units comply with egress
requirements, but windows in owner-occupied homes could be replaced with like windows. He said
the inconsistencies were cause for aggravation and expense.
Ms. Moermond said both codes covered egress windows and St. Paul building inspectors were
choosing to err on the side of safety.
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Mr. Ubl said the Fire Marshal had deemed sleeping areas to be a potential hazard and had
established a policy to minimize the hazard. He said building inspectors enforced the building code
and a number of other codes, including the fire code. He said if Mr. Hoy disagreed with the code
the appropriate venue for addressing that was the legislature.
Mr. Hoy asked why St. Paul couldn't be on the same page as other municipalities in following the
February 2009 state building code requirements for escape and egress windows. He said it was
frustrating as a licensed contractor to have to spend time and money appealing the fire code.
Ms. Shaff noted that Chapter 1 of the building code required compliance with all other codes and
ordinances, and the fire code was referenced along with others. Mr. Ubl said the City of St. Paul
was required by law to enforce the fire code; he said other municipalities chose not to.
Ms. Moermond recommended denying the appeal.
4. Appeal of Window World to the denial of building permit to replace egress windows for
property at 1748 Marvland Avenue East.
Appellant Patrick Hoy (22ll East ll` Avenue, N. St. Paul, MN 55109) and Esther Daul appeared.
Ms. Moermond recommended denying the appeal.
Appeal of Heu Lang Chuyangheu to a Certificate of Occupancy Deficiency List for property
at 609 Sims Avenue
Appellant Heu Lang Chuyangheu (1639 Gervais Avenue, Maplewood, MN 55109) appeared.
Ms. Shaff stated that Inspector Booker had conducted an inspection for the Fire C of O on February
22 and reported that the openable dimensions of the egress window in Bedroom 2 Unit 1 were 20.5
inches high by 28.5 inches wide, and the egress window in Bedroom 1 was obstructed by furniture.
She said there were other life/safety issues but the windows were the only items being appealed.
Mr. Chuyangheu said the windows were built with the property over 100 years ago but the counci]
had changed the code. He said the windows were 28 inches wide and 44 inches high, or 22 inches
for each panel.
Ms. Moermond said she was comfortable recommending a variance for the window in Bedroom 2
but was more concemed about the furniture blocking the window in the other bedroom. She asked
whether the furniture could be moved. Mr. Chuyangheu said the fumiture could be moved. He said
the windows measured 28 by 44 inches and met code, and he wasn't sure why they had been cited.
He provided photos of the windows.
Ms. Moermond asked whether there were notes about the dimensions of the other bedroom window.
Ms. Shaff said nothing was mentioned. Ms. Moermond reviewed the photographs and window
order.
Ms. Moermond asked whether the windows in Bedroom 1 were the same as those in Bedroom 2.
Mr. Chuyangheu said the windows in Bedroom 1 were larger. He said tenant had the bed close to
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the window. Ms. Moermond told Mr. Chuyangheu that he needed to tell the tenant to move the bed
before the reinspection.
Mr. Chuyangheu asked whether a permit was required to repair the guardrail. He said he repaired it
but had not gotten a permit. Ms. Moermond and Ms. Shaff said the orders stated that a permit may
be required. Ms. Shaff and Mr. Ubl reviewed the photograph of the railing. Mr. Ubl said it
appeared that the railing had been replaced and a permit should have been pulled.
Mr. Chuyangheu asked why permit was required. He said he knew about the requirements relating
to the spacing of slats. Mr. Ubl clarified the requirement for permits for life-safety items and asked
that he pull a permit and have the railing inspected. He said the railing did not appear to meet code,
and indicated a specific area that concemed him.
Ms. Moermond asked whether the double-fee penalty for a permit pulled after the work was done
could be waived. Mr. Ubl said it could.
Ms. Moermond recommended granting a 3.5-inch variance on the openable height of the egress
window in bedroom 2. The fumiture blocking the egress window in bedroom 1 must be moved so
the window can be measured at re-inspection. The appellant must pull a permit for the work done
on the railing at the rear of the house and have the railing inspected. The permit fee will not be
doubled.
6. Appeal of Paul Fanning, attorney representing Trustees Donald & Beverly Glaser, to a
Certificate of Occupancy Deficiency List for property at 1807 Stillwater Avenue.
(Continued from March 9)
Sonya Glaser (2048 East County Road F#9, White Bear Lake, 55110) appeared.
Ms. Moermond reviewed her decision from the previous week a - anting a variance on the windows
and laying over the appeal of the deadbolt height. She asked for a staff report.
Ms. Shaff said the deadbolt height was 53 inches and the maximum allowed by code was 48 inches.
Ms. Glaser said her father had asked whether the issue concerned handicapped accessibility. She
said the house was not otherwise handicapped accessible. Ms. Moermond said she had a
conversation with Mr. Fanning about why the requirement could not be varied and told him that a
lot of people, including those in wheelchairs, would have trouble with a lock that high.
Ms. Moermond, Ms. Shaff and Mr. Ubl said the code was also there to protect children and shorter
adults. Ms. Moermond said people expected deadbolts to be at a certain level and having it higher
could slow someone's escape in an emergency. Ms. Glaser said the locks had been that way for 25
years.
Ms. Moermond asked for additional comments from staff. Mr. Ubl said handicapped accessibility
meant more than just being accessible to someone in a wheelchair.
Ms. Glaser asked how high the locks should be and whether she could have more time. Ms.
Moermond said she would grant more time.
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Ms. Moermond asked whether there were 18 units with the same lock height. Ms. Glaser said there
were 17 units and a laundry room.
Ms. Moermond recommended granting a 5-inch variance on the openable height of the bedroom
egress windows in all units; deny the appeal and granting an extension to August 1, 2010 to bring
deadbolt height into compliance in all units.
7. Appeal of Abby Barber, EIG Fund LLC, to a Certificate of Occupancy Deficiency List for
property at 250 Birmineham Street.
(Continued from Feb. 2)
Appellant Abby Barber appeared.
Ms. Moermond said there had been disagreement at the February 2 hearing about what did and did
not need to be done, and Ms. Barber and the inspector were going to visit the site together to discuss
the items and take photos. Ms. Barber confirmed that was conect.
Ms. Moermond said she had seen the photos; she asked Ms. Barber where things stood.
Ms. Barber stated that Inspector Westenhofer had re-inspected the property on February 11 for the
items that had been agreed upon and completed, and had told her that everything looked fine, but
then had sent a letter listing some of the original deficiencies along with new ones.
Ms. Moermond asked Ms. Barber whether she disagreed with the items that had been called out.
Ms. Barber stated that she did not and all items had been completed. She said there was to have
been another re-inspection on or after February 16 and she hadn't received another letter and wasn't
sure whether it had taken place. She questioned whether the brick work needed to be done since
there was only a small area that was cracked. She said she and the inspector had looked at it
together; she reviewed the photographs with Ms Moermond.
Ms. Shaff provided photographs and orders frotn the February 11 re-inspection which were
reviewed by Ms. Moermond and Ms. Barber.
Ms. Moermond asked Ms. Barber whether there were any other items she wanted to discuss. Ms.
Barber stated that the brick was the only item remaining from the original orders, but there were
new orders dated February 12 including one relafed to the electrical service. She said they did not
intend to hire an electrician.
Ms. Moermond noted photographs showing exposed wiring. Ms. Barber said the item had not been
on the original orders. Ms. Moermond said the item was on the January 11 orders. Ms. Shaff stated
that inspectors were directed to write orders for any additional items found at re-inspecrion. Ms.
Moermond read the order from the January 11 inspector's letter. Ms. Barber reiterated that
Inspector Westenhofer had conveyed verbally that there were no problems.
Ms. Moermond said her concem was that the house was not �oing to be fixed and she emphasized
to Ms. Barber that the repairs needed to be done. She said she was concemed about the retaining
wall. Ms. Barber said she thought that was the lssue the hearing was about. She asked whether it
needed to be fixed.
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Ms. Moermond read from the minutes from the February 2 hearing stating that Ms. Barber had
disagreed entirely that the work on the orders needed to be done, and the matter was laid over so the
exterior items could be reviewed and deadlines established for all items. A deadline of March 11
had been established for all other items. Ms. Moermond recommended denying the appeal and
granting an extension to June l, 2010 for the retaining wall and exterior items.
8. Appeal of Doug Palbicki, Portfolio Real Estate Services, to a Code Compliance Inspection
Report for property at 536 Lexin�ton Pkwy.
Appellant Doug Palbicki (3141 Webster Avenue S., St. Louis Park, MN 55416) and James
Clucadsky (phonetic spelling) appeared.
Mr. Seeger said he was at the property on February 20, 2010 for a Code Compliance inspection. He
said he hadn't been able to see the exterior grading because of the snow but there had been water
running into the basement from a downspout. He said the house was moved to the current site in
1924 and would have met the 1921 building code. There was a 1988 addition, and an earlier
addition that was deteriorating and needed repair. He said there were non-compliant egress window
wells on the newer addition. He noted problems with the deck; the gutters and downspouts, the
flashing and fascia; the garage and an attached structure; and the floor, door-swing and railing in the
basement.
Ms. Moermond reviewed the reports from the other inspectors. She asked Mr. Palbicki what he was
appealing. Mr. Palbicki stated that the house had been occupied by tenants prior to becoming a
bank owned property and had been secured and maintained since that time. He said they were
asking to have the Category 2 status changed back to Category 1. He said the future buyer planned
to be an owner occupant. He said the Code Compliance list was extensive and non-specific; he
asked whether all of the items on it were required or whether it was mare of a"wish list."
Ms. Moermond confirmed with Mr. Palbicki that the property had been a rentaL Mr. Palbicki stated
that it had been a rental but was now bank owned. He said he was the realtor representing the
seller. He reiterated that they would like to have the property be Category 1, and said they were
willing to address the basic items that were FHA guidelines and were standard in other cities. He
asked again whether all of the items on the Code Compliance list were required and whether the list
superseded the state law. He cited Morris v Saac. He said requiring the full list represented an
undue burden and might take some people out of the housing market.
Mr. Clucadsky said they had an executed a purchase agreement with a closing date. He said they
wanted to live in St. Paul and first saw and were interested in the property in September but had
decided not to purchase it at that time because of the code compliance issues. He stated that after
looking at other properties for a few months they had come back to this one. He said the property
had potential and had sold for �316,000 in 2005 in a strong market. He said he gave notice at his
cunent residence and had 45 days to find housing or he and his children would be on the street.
Ms. Moermond asked how much the purchase agreement was for. Mr. Clucadsky said it was for
S160,000. Ms. Moermond asked for comments from staf£ Mr. Seeger said it was a nice property
and looked better than it had initially. Mr. Clucadsky said the addition was well-constructed.
Mr. Ubl said there were a number of inechanical, heating, plumbing and electrical items on the list
in addition to the building issues cited by Mr. Seeger.
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Mr. Palbicki said the house was winterized. He said the water had been shut off because the tenants
hadn't paid their bills, and that had been one of the triggers for the Category 2 vacant building file.
He stated that after the water had been shut off, they brought in the sheriff to do a forced eviction,
and the house was fully secured and re-keyed. He said they kept the property maintained since
then. He acknowledged that there were deficiencies but questioned whether they represented majar
safety or health issues.
Mr. Seeger and Mr. Ubl reviewed some items on the code compliance list. Mr. Palbicki noted that
it was an older building and asked whether the city could change the state building code and force
someone to make the corrections. Mr. Clucadsky said the bottom line was that he was interested in
upgrading the property if the city was interested in working with him. Mr. Ubl said life/safety
issues needed to be addressed before anyone could move in.
Mr. Seeger said some second floor wark had been done by a previous owner and there was no
record of permits being pulled. He said he had concerns about life/safety issues there, particularly
related to venting. He said there was also a flue going up from the basement to the second floor,
and he hadn't been able to determine where it went. Mr. Clucadsky said there was a wood-burning
fireplace in a corner of the addition. Mr. Seeger said there were two chimneys and he had some
concerns about the venting.
Mr. Clucadsky asked how that work could be checked at this point. Mr. Ubl said they would need
to have licensed contractars submit proposals addressing the code compliance requirements in each
area.
Ms Moermond took a short recess to review her notes and property records. She said there had
been a sheriff's sale December 16, 2008, and Everbank had repurchased the mortgage. She said the
water had been shut off on June 26, 2009 which would have been at the end of the redemption
period. The house was condemned for lack of basic services, the vacant buildin� file was opened a
couple of weeks later, and a TISH inspection was done on September 18, 2009. She said the
property had been condemned and was a vacant building under Chapter 43.027, and clearly met the
definitions for a Category 2 since it was also unoccupied and had multiple code violations. She said
she was not comfortable changing it to a Category 1. She said Morris v Sas did not apply, and cited
a section of the code requiring full code compliance before a vacant, Category 2 building could be
occupied.
Ms. Moermond recommended that the appeal be denied and all items be addressed. She reviewed
the requirements for the purchase of a Category 2 property and said Mr. Clucadsky could buy the
property but would need to demonstrate he had the resources to bring it up to code. She estimated
at least S 15,000 in contractors' work if Mr. Clucadsky did the building items himself.
Mr. Clucadsky said his purchase agreement stipulated that the seller pay for improvements required
for FHA financing. He said he was asking the city to let him move in when the property had met
FHA requirements. Mcermond said the policy was clear that the property could not be occupied
until it was code compliant Mr. Clucadsky asked whether FHA was code compliant. Ms.
Moermond said she wasn't familiar with what the mort�age company required.
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Mr. Clucadsky said the Code Compliance list was not definitive on what needed to be fixed. He
asked whether there would be another inspection to go through the Code Compliance report line by
line. Mr. Seeger clarified some of the items on the building list.
Mr. Palbicki said the city was denying access to affordable housing and placing an undue burden on
property owners. He expressed frustration over the differences in the TISH and Code Compliance
inspection criteria. He said the decision would result in the house staying on the market longer and
a loss of tax revenue for the city.
Ms. Moermond said the city's goal was to get the house fixed and to get the seller to take
responsibility for the fixes before the house was put on the market. Mr. Palbicki said HUD's
guidelines for Safe, Secure and Sanitary were adequate. He noted an item on the Code Compliance
inspection that he felt was unrelated to safety. He said Mr. Clucadsky would make improvements
to the property and take care of it.
Ms. Moermond invited Mr. Palbicki to testify before the City Council if he disagreed with her
recommendation. She estimated that it would be on the agenda for April 7, and said any additional
materials could be submitted by the end of the day on March 26.