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CITY OF ST. PAUL COUNCIL NO.
FILE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
Ca+U CIL RESOLUTION—GENERAL FORM
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PRESENTED BY // r
COMMISSIONE• ! % / AIA.„4,ddir DATE _
RESOLVED, that the City Council of the City of Saint
Paul hereby expresses its opposition to the amendment to
Minnesota Statutes 1953, Section 326.40, entitled:
"A BILL FOR AN ACT RELATING TO THE REGULATION
OF PLUMBERS AND PLUMBING, EXCLUDING CERTAIN
RELATED ACTIVITIES FROM REGULATIONS RELATING
TO PLUMBING; AMENDING MINNESOTA STATUTES
1953, SECTION 326.40,
being House File 243, Senate File 413, now before the current
session of the Minnesota State Legislature.
Council File No. 181812r-By Frank D.
Marzitelli
Resolved, That the City Council of
the City of Saint Paul hereby ex-
presses its opposition to the amend-
ment to Minnesota Statutes 1853, Sec-
tion 320.40, entitled:
"A BILL FOR AN ACT RELATING
TO THE REGULATION OF PLUMB-
ERS AND PLUMBING, EXCLUDING
CERTAIN RELATED ACTIVITIES
FROM REGULATIONS RELATING
TO PLUMBING; AMENDING MIN-
NESOTA STATUTES 1853, SECTION
326.40;" being House File 243, Senate
File 413, now before the current ses-
sion
Adopted by the t Council March 7,
1857.
Approved(March arch 9, 1957)
•COUNCILMEN Adopted by the Council—MAR 7 1965_
Yeas Nays
eCou cy MAR 7
land Approved 195_
Marzite11i _
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OFFICE OF CITY CLERK JOSEPH R. OKONESKI
BUREAU OF RECORDS Hcit e JR$dRtAl 9 ARC�CD d
Counci l Recorder
386 City Hall and Court House
St. Paul 2, Minnesota
Feb. 28, 1957
Mr. Marshall F. Hurley
Corporation Counsel
Building
Dear Sir:
The Council requested that you prepare a resolution expressing their
opposition to the amendment to Minnesota Statutes 1953, Sec. 326.14.0
before the 1957 Legislative Session - House File 21+3 and Senate
File 14.13.
Very truly yours,
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL — MINNESOTA
Y. . rei.ruary .19, l .-
MEMORANDUM
My name is Alfred H. Schroeder, holding the position as City
Architect of the City of Saint Paul and charged with the responsibili-
ty of approving plans and specifications; checking the installations ;
Chairman of the Board of Examiners in the prequalifications of the
various trades and crafts; issuing of certificates of competency and
licenses ; issuing permits for the various categories of work covered;
and supervising the activities of the various Inspectors. Our field
covers the following trades and crafts: Building Inspectors, Plumbing
Inspectors, Electrical Inspectors, Warm Air Heating Inspectors, .
Steamfitting Inspectors, Air Conditioning and Ventilation, Plastering,
Concrete Masonry Work, Welding of Pressure Vessels, and many others.
These observations which I am giving you here are obtained over a
period of many years as an Inspector and Supervisor of various work
done by the various trades and crafts.
I have before me a copy of House File 243 and Senate File 413.
S enate File 413 is in part similar to House'File 243. My comments
in general are directed against both the House File and the Senate
File.
I think that in approaching this subject, that we should analyze
the background of this problem and the reasons for the establishment
of permits, license laws, and qualifications for competency in the
various trades and crafts. It has been the experience of all of those
charged with the responsibility of protecting public health and safety,
that in order to properly accomplish this purpose, it has become
universally accepted that a prequalification for this type of work
as well as requiring permits and a license when they are qualified
is about the only practical way that the reasonable control can be
accomplished and proper protection to the public be provided.
In order that we may understand what is meant and what is inclu-
ded by the term "prequalification" , written and practical examinations
are given. The practical work in the case of our office requires an
applicant to actually perform certain types of work and demonstrate
his ability and knowledge to accomplish the practical work. A written
examination is also given which covers not only basic principals and
basic code requirements, but also a basic knowledge of the entire
subject, whether it be electrical work, plumbing work, or steamfitting
work.
There has been established for many years a Plumbers License Law,
dating back to approximately 1906 or 1907. An Electricians prequali-
fication and License Law for the purpose of controlling the quality
of the work and protecting the public health and safety has been in
effect since approximately 1908.
Practically every large municipality in the country provides in
some manner or means prequalification, licensing and permit require-
ments for Plumbing, Electrical Work, High Pressure Steam Work, and
many other trades and crafts. It has always been the accepted an:'
standard practice that anyone cutting into, adding to, remodeling, o:
changing any of the systems as outlined above, shall in general be
acquainted with the entire system, its function and method of opera-
tion
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This particular Bill is extracting from the State Plumbing
License Law, and also from the plumbing licensing laws of municipali-
ties, the provision of control on the installation of water softeners
and will permit the installation of water softeners by a person or
persons who will not, of necessity, be prequalified nor will they
have the basic knowledoe of the entire system to which they connect.
The provision of installing hot water heaters, air conditioning
equipment, automatic washing machines, and dish washers, as well as
similar equipment, is no different from that of water softeners.
Installations of water softeners, done in an improper manner,
can contaminate the entire public water system. This danger is
greater of course when there is a public water system than when there
is an individual water supply for each facility. The danger of con-
tamination is no greater in one than the other, except that where
there is a public water system, it will affect a greater number of
people. If this is true, it is a very dangerous practice to extract
from control and regulation, including the prequalification of
personnel, provisions for water softeners when the danger of contami-
nation is just as great as any other facility.
It is therefore the recommendation of this office that instead
of removing the' controls which we now have relative to the installa-
tion of any device which is cut into a public water supply system,
that they be strengthened.
ktfred H. Schroeder
City Architect
City of St. Paul, Minnesota
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• . , A BILL
o 701 AN ACT MATING TO TRS REGULATION 07 PLUKBEBS
AND PLUMBING, INCLUDING CERTAIN RELATED ACTITITIND
FROM RNGULATIONB RNLATINO TO PLUMBING= AMENDING
MINNNCOTA STATUTES 1953. VICTION 326.40
BS I? UAC?•ID BT TN] LIQI$ 1V1= Cf ?RN STATN OT MISN80?At
Booties 1. Minnesota Statutes 1953, S otica 326.40. is asended to
reads
326.40 Is say city we village now or hereafteoe hawing 5,000 or
• more popn►lati on. assort/mg to the last federal or state census, sad having a sys t em
of water-work or sewerage, no person, fins, or corporation shall S* 545 in or
work at the business of a sastsr plumber or jonrseysaa plumber unless liosnsed to
do so by the state board of health. A pastor plumber may aloe work as • journeytsa
plumber. Alone not so 'loosest may do plasbing work which complies with the
provisions of the minimum standard prescribed by the state board of health on pro-
siest or that part of premises owned and astually occupied by his as his residence.
males otherwise Ns/lidless to de so b/ • kcal ordisanss. boajt,
Ps•soaabls standards ant lasnoottgpa as nor be Dresoribed jir laaal ordikanoe. Denims
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by simple seaceotiost tswvlwlelc s.,it rAannat of t e sac sllit:•ta s s and
who iasplr with tdsiatarir a nreseribed_ bi tbs stet• board of health.
to eq such pity or village no perste, firs or corporation shall
enia,* in the business of installing plumbing. nor install plumbing in connection
with the dealing in and selling of plumbing material and supplies oalees at all
times a licensed rater plumber, who shall be responsible for proper installation,
is in charge of the plumbing work of such person, firm, or corporation.
The state board of health shall prescribe rules and regulations.
not inconsistent herewith, for the ssaniaati• and lieensing of plumbers.
'A BILL
702 AX ACT RELATING TO TEE REGULATION 07 PLUMBERS
AID PLUXBIXG, EXCLUDING CERTAIN R .ATRD ACTIVITIES
IRON REGULATIONS RELATING TO °LOOSISO; AMENDING
SINXS:OTA STATUTES 1953. SECTION 326.40
BE IT ENACTED BY TIE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE 07 MINE8OTAt
Section 1. Minnesota Statutes 1953, Section 326.40, is amended to
read:
326.40 In any city or village now or hereafter having 5.000 or
more population, according to the last federal or state census, and having a system
of water-works -or sewerage, no person, firm, or corporation shall engage in or
work at the business of a master plumber or journeyman plumber unless licensed to
do go by the state board of health. A master plumber may aloe work as • jonrneyra.n
plumber. Anyone not so lieeneed may do plumbing work which complies with the
provisions of the minimum standerd prescribed br" the state toast of health cn pre-
mises or that part of premises owned and actually occupied by his as his residence,
unless otherwise forbidden to do so by a local ordinance. Subleot to wits. bond',
Reasonable s pjarta sad inspections as aasje pretribed 17 local ordinance. IersQ, s
sneezed is ue usitness of installine water scttener• rho are net so Jioensed mar
. .r.e. to • _ ter . en t• • e • s ,. • . • • •
by Ginnie connections not involvinKa_rtarra gf of the gaoling water piper and
y iob °2•47 with aLAIsmn lajniartboreecrllogil by the !rite bpsra of heRitl.
In asrg such city or village no person, firm or corporation R%:all
sagage in the business of installing plumbing. nor install plumbing in connection
with the dealing in and selling of plumbing material and supplies unless at all
times a licensed master plumber, who shall be resporsible for proper installation,
is in charge of the plumbing work of such per*on, firs, or corporation.
The state board of health shall prescribe rules and regulations.
not inconsistent herewith, for the examination and licensing of plumbers.
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