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Green Sheet# 3066387
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RESOLUTION
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1 BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the January
2 6, 2009 decision of the Legislarive Hearing O�cer on the Appeals of Letters and Letters of Deficiency, for
3 the following addresses:
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5 Pronertv Appealed Appellant
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7 2127 Hudson Road Daniel Vansteenburg
8 o/b/o Jimmy Johns
9 Decision: Deny the appeal.
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12 1999 Cottage Avenue East Paul Mai
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14 Decision: Grant a variance for the egxess windows.
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17 189 Seventh Street East Gayle Peterson
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19 Decision: Deny the appeal far fire separation on Item #3 and for window sill height on Item #13 and grant
20 an extension to February 28, 2009. Grant a variance for window egress on Item #6 to be consistent with
21 the variance already granted by the St. Paul Board of Zoning dated September 14, 1998.
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24 733 Blair Avenue Thai Yang
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26 Decision: Deny the appeal and waive the vacant building fee to April 15, 2009.
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29 904-906 Beech Street James Swartwood
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31 Decision: Deny the appeal.
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Action Requested:
Resolution approving the Ianuary 6, 2009 decisions of the Legislative Heazing Officer on Appeals of Letters and Letters of
Deficiency for properties at 2127 Hudson Road, 1999 Cottage Avenue East, 189 Seventh Street East, 733 Blair Avenue, and 904-906
Beech Street.
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MINUTES OF THE LEGISLATIVE HEARiNG
LE OF DEFICIEN CO NOTICES
AND CORRECTION ORDERS
Tuesday, January 6, 2009
Room 330 City Hall, 15 Kellogg Boulevard West
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 132 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Leanna Shaff, Department of Safety and Inspection (DSn — Fire; Dennis
Senty, DSI — Code Enforcement; and Mai Vang, City Council Offices
Appeal of Daniel Vansteenburg, representing Jimmy Johns, to an Inspection Report for
property at 2127 Hudson Road.
The appellant did not appear. Ms. Moermond stated that she would recommend that the appeal be
denied.
2. Appeal of Dan Carlson, D.T. Carlson Real Estate LLC, to a Certificate of Occupancy
Deficiency List for property at 1302 Reanev Avenue.
Property owner Dan Carlson (3609 E. 47`" Street, Minneapolis) appeared.
Ms. Shaff provided a staff report. She said that the property had been inspected for the Fire
Certificate of Occupancy (C of O) on December 18, 2008 and that the inspector had found that the
openable height of egress windows at the property ranged from 16" to 20" and that the minimum
required was 24".
Mr. Carlson provided photos and measurements for the windows, and documentation of financial
hardship. He stated that the height of the windows measured by the inspector at 16" were actually
18 3 /4". He said that the house was built in the `SOs and that the windows were in great shape. He
stated that he and his wife owned several rental properties and most were Secrion 8, and that
replacing the windows was burdensome and represented a hardship. He said they'd owned the
house for five years and would lose the house if they had to replace the windows. He said that
tenant family had lived there for 4'h years.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Carlson whether he had thought about refinancing. Mr. Carlson said that
banks were not refinancing investment properties. He said that he worked in construction and
understood about egress and wouldn't put the tenants in harms way. He said they were good-sized
windows.
Ms. Moermond questioned the widths of the windows. Mr. Carlson said that the widths ranged
from 39" to 24".
Ms. Moermond asked whether the inspector had taken width measurements. Ms. Shaff stated that
the inspector had not. Ms. Moermond stated that there was a large shortfall in the openable height.
Mr. Carlson stated that the windows were wide and that replacing them would represent a financial
hardship. Ms. Moermond stated that she could not consider financial hudship in a life/safety
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situation, but that she could take financial hardship into considerarion when determining the length
of ti me she cou a llow to have the windows replaced. She stated that s he wo uld n eed goo w idth __ ___
measurements in order to decide how the replacements should be staggered.
Mr. Carlson said that the front window was the smallest and that it would have to be a double-hung
window to retain the architectural integrity. He asked about the possibility of the windows being
grandfathered.
Ms. Moermond stated that the city had expanded C of O requirements to duplexes and single-family
rental properties. She said that she could help with the timing of the required window replacements
but part of the cost of the doing business was maintenance.
Mr. Cazlson stated that the size of the front window was restricted by other structural
considerations.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Carlson to provide measurements of all window dimensions and
photographs with notes about any special concerns regarding fit and structure.
Mr. Cazlson stated that he was worried about the property's Section 8 status if he were not granted a
variance on the window size. Ms. Shaff stated that Section 8 inspectors made their own decisions
and might not accept a time variance.
Mr. Carlson stated that the cost of window replacement would be $16,000 without contractor fees.
Ms. Shaff stated that a sprinkler system might be less expensive and would remove the egress
window requirement.
Ms. Moermond stated that she would look at the dimensions and recommend a schedule for
replacements.
On January 22, 2009, Ms. Moermond reviewed the records and recommended granting variances
for window egress on Items #2 and #3. She recommended denying the appeal for window egress on
Items #1 and #4 and granted an extension for 90 days.
3. Appeal of Paul Mai to a Certificate of Occupancy Deficiency List for property at 1999
Cottage Avenue East.
Property owner Paul Mai (1360 University Avenue W., #488, St. Paul) appeared.
Ms. Shaff gave a staff report. She stated that an inspection had been done on December 26 in
response to a complaint about egress window height. The inspector reported that the windows
were of adequate size but that outside storm windows restricted the openable area. The windows
had an openable area of 21 %z" high and 39" wide.
Ms. Moermond stated that since the window width was twice what was required and the openable
height was just 2%2" short of the requirement she would recommend that a variance be granted.
Ms. Shaff stated that she would inform Section 8.
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4. Appeal of Gayle Peterson to a Certificate of Occupancy Deficiency List for property at 189
Sev enth S treet East.
Property owner Gayle Peterson (5741 Heather Ridge Drive, Shoreview) and her son Steve Peterson
appeared.
Ms. Shaff gave a staff report. She stated that a Fire C of O inspection had been completed on
December 19 and a list of 16 deficiencies developed. She said that many of the items were being
appealed.
Ms. Moermond asked how long Ms. Peterson had owned the property. Ms. Peterson stated that
she'd owned the property for 25 years.
Ms. Peterson stated that the report was confusing because the property included part of the grocery
store, part of the upstairs, and part of the Temperence Street building and that the address far
Temperence Street was wrong. She said that the address of her property had originally been 1$9 %z
7` Street but that when 7` Place had been added the city had changed her address to 189 7`" Street
and now there was confusion between 189 7 Street and 189 7` Place.
Ms. Moermond asked about the Property Identification Number (PIN). Ms. Peterson stated that the
PIN was listed with the wrong address. Ms. Shaff stated that her inspectors were clear on the
address.
Ms. Peterson stated that her mail was misdelivered to 7 Place. She requested that the address be
corrected. She said that she'd never been out of compliance but that the inspection history for her
property had not followed her to the new address. Ms. Moermond stated that Ms. Peterson could
submit an application to Public Works to have the address changed. She reviewed each item being
appealed.
Ms. Peterson stated that Item 1(multi-plug adapters) had been addressed by her tenants. She stated
that Item 2(floor tile) �was the responsibility of the commercial tenant. Ms. Shaff said that the
property owner was ultimately responsible for complying with the orders, and that the commercial
and residential spaces in the property were all under one Certificate of Occupancy. Ms. Peterson
stated that she would get the tenant to repair or replace the floor tiles
Ms. Moermond asked about Item 3(fire-rated ceiling tiles). Ms. Peterson said that the same ceiling
tiles were used in the grocery store and had been approved for the previous 5 ar 6 years. She said
that the fire rating had been tested by United Laboratories. She provided a report.
Ms. Moermond asked about item 6(egress window size). Ms. Peterson stated that they'd been
granted a variance far the window in 1988. Ms. Shaff stated that the window width was 9". Ms.
Peterson presented a partial copy of minutes of the St. Paul Board of Appeals meeting during which
the variance was granted.
Ms. Moermond asked about Items 8 and 9. Ms. Peterson stated that those items weren't being
appealed.
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Ms. Moermond asked whether a step could be installed to address the egress window sill height in
Item 13. Ms. P eters on p ro v ided ph of the room and window and stated that it had be
approved in the past because a room that was adjacent and not separated by a door had an approved
egress window.
Ms. Moermond asked whether the heating facility had been serviced. Ms. Peterson stated that it had
been done, and provided documentation. She said that the paperwork she submitted was not getting
to the appropriate file. She said that the smoke detector affidavit had also been submitted.
Ms. Moermond said she would look into what would be requized to change the address. She said
she would like more time to consider the report on the fire separation (Item 3), and the window sill
height (Item 13) and window size variance (Item �.
On January 22, 2009, Ms. Moermond reviewed the records and recommended denying the appeal
for fire separation on Item #3 and for window sill height on Item #13 and granted an extension to
February 28, 2009. She recommended granting a variance for window egress on Item #6 to be
consistent with the variance already granted by the St. Paul Board of Zoning dated September 14,
1998.
5. Appeal of Thai Yang to a Vacant Building Registration Notice and Fee for property at 733
Blair Avenue
Building owner Thai Yang (233 Sherburne Avenue), and Anong Xiong appeared.
Mr. Senty presented a staff report. He stated that on November 25, 2008 the vacant building
program received a referral from the certificate of occupancy (C of O) program that the certificate
status at the property was listed as condemned/vacant with a Category 2 recommendation. The
property was posted as a Category 2 vacant Building on December 8.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Yang whether he lived at the property. Mr. Yang said that he'd lived
there until it was posted. He said he`d pnrchased the property from his sister in 20Q7. He said he
worked nights and slept all day and Yhat the upstairs tenant had called him at work and said that
there were police at the property. He said the tenant was Hmong and did not speak English well
and that he decided that it had probably been an inspector at the property. He said that he called the
city to inquire but there were no records or reports associated with the property.
Mr. Xiong stated that he assumed that the first inspections were initiated in July. He said that no
one at the property spoke English and that when they'd attempted to follow up with the city there
had been no records on the property. He stated that there had been two or three incidents when kids
at the property had said "police" had visited, and that the condemnation had been posted in October.
Ms. Moermond asked about the history leading to the condemnation. Mr. Senty stated that he
didn't have information on the C of O condemnation. He said that if a police officer had been
riding along with an inspector there would not have been a separate police report.
Mr. Xiong stated that the previous tenant had been asked to move out in June and may haue
complained about the property.
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Ms. Shaff stated that that an appointment letter was sent on July 1 for a C of O inspection on 3uly
15. Mr. Xiong said that they hadn't received a letter and didn't lrnow about�hing until the
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condemnation notice had been posted.
Ms. Moermond asked where and to whom the notice had been sent. Ms. Shaff stated that it had
been sent to Thai Yang at 1907 E. Wayzata Boulevard. Mr. Yang stated that that was not his
address and that the appeal notice had been sent to the correct address on Sherbume. He said that
the condemnation letter had been found folded up inside the Blair Avenue mailbox. He said that
he'd tried to get the address corrected and to communicate with the appropriate people at the city.
He said they were just asking for a re-inspection.
Ms. Moermond asked how they had obtained a copy of the deficiency list. Mr. Xiong stated that
they'd scheduled an inspection as soon as they'd found the condemnation notice and that the
deficiency list was from that inspection. He said he'd been working every weekend to make the
corrections and that the inspector had visited once or twice since but that no one had been available
to let her in. He said the wark was done but the property had not been re-inspected befare they'd
received the order to vacate and that they'd been unable to reach anyone at the city to request or
schedule a re-inspection.
Ms. Shaff showed computer file photographs of the property. The photographs showed an
unapproved attic apartment, unsafe electrical wiring and fixtures and unapproved plumbing. Mr.
Xiong acknowledged that there had been problems and said that they were working on making
repairs.
Ms. Moermond asked whether the vacant building fee had been paid. Mr. Xiong stated that it
hadn't been paid and that that was what they were appealing.
Ms. Moermond reviewed the vacant building definitions and said that the property met two of the
criteria. She stated that the building was condemned and vacated and that the fee had to be paid.
She said that the third floor attic area looked atrocious and frightening and that repairs would cost
much more than the fee.
Ms. Moermond stated that a code compliance inspection was required and would cost about $500.
She said that if a code compliance inspection was completed and all wark done by April 15, 2009
she would recommend that the vacant building fee be waived. She said that the vacant building
regish paperwork would still need to be completed.
6. Appeal of James Swartwood to a Vacant Building Classification for property at 904-906
Beech Street. (Note: the property owner did not provide any paperwark with this appeal)
Property owner James Swartwood (5537 Dupont Avenue S., Minneapolis) appeared.
Mr. Swartwood stated that he'd purchased the property from the bank this past summer. He said he
thought it should be a Category 1 Vacant Building rather than Category 2. He said that Rich
Singerhouse had told him that a he had no problem with it being a Category 1, but that Inspector
Thomas had asked for approval from Ms. Moermond.
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Ms. Shaff stated that that was not accurate. Mr. Swariwood stated that that had been his
u He presented photographs of th e property, permit records and__a__structural e eer's_ .__ _____
— report that said that the building was structurally sound.
Ms. Shaff stated that the property had been listed as a Category 2 Vacant Building since July 24,
2007.
Mr. Swariwood cited a state statue that he said superseded the Category 2 status. Ms. Moermond
stated that the statute did not supersede the status according to the city's interpretation of the vacant
building categorization and that if Mr. Swartwood wanted to litigate the matter with the city that
would be handled separately.
Ms. Moermond asked far the inspector's notes leading to the original Category 2 designation. Mr.
Senty stated that a C of O revocation was referenced and that the only notes were that the building
exteriar was in fair condition. Ms. Shaff stated that the C of O had been revoked due to
nonpayment of fees by the previous owner.
Ms. Moermond asked whether there had been previous issues. Ms. Shaff stated that the C of O had
been revoked in December 2006 because of numerous issues. She said there had been lots of other
typical deferred-maintenance items. Ms. Moermond asked whether those issues had been addressed
at the time of the vacant building designation. Ms. Shaff said that the most recent certificate of
occupancy was not certified.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Swartwood whether he had received a Truth in Sale of Housing or Code
Compliance inspection report at closing. Mr. Swartwood stated that he had signed a waiver and had
purchased the property "as is." Ms. Moermond said that the Truth in Sale of Housing or inspection
report was still required and that the sale was illegally transacted.
Mr. Swartwood stated that his understanding was that a new state law made the vacant building
categories obsolete. Ms. Moermond stated that it did not apply.
Ms. Moermond asked who the realtor had been. Mr. Senty stated that the realtor listed was EMC
Mortgage Corparation.
Ms. Moermond said she' d like to see a copy of the property history to review any open orders. Mr.
Swartwood stated that Inspector Thomas had said he'd never been inside 904 or 906 Beech.
Ms. Shaff stated that the designation was a year and a half old. Ms. Moermond asked Mr.
Swartwood why he was appealing the designation now. Mr. Swartwood stated that that had been
the recommendation of the department. Ms. Shaff stated that it hadn't been given as a
recommendation but as Mr. Swartwood's only available recourse.
Ms. Moerxnond asked about permit status. Ms. Shaff and Mr. Senty checked the recards and stated
that the permits had not been finalled. Mr. Swartwood stated that the contractors had been paid and
that the permits should have been finalled.
Ms. Moermond stated that the appeal was not timely and that she would recommend that it be
denied.