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09-1388Council File # U�� Green Sheet # j d�' n 4�� SAIN�T PAUL, MINNESOTA Presented � WHEREAS, on or about Se emb , 2009, Jason Mareau, d/b/a Cleaz Choice Construction LLC, made application to the Heritage Preservation Commission (hereinafter, the "HPC") in HPC File No. 10-001, on behalf of Hubert Nelson who is the owner of that property commonly known as 534 Summit Avenue which is located in the City's Heritage Hill Preservation District, for a building permit to tear off existing roofing and install new artificial slate shingles; and WHEREAS, on October 22, 2009, the HPC, having provided notice to affected property owners, duly conducted a public hearing on the said building permit application where all interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and 10 11 12 13 14 15 WHEREAS, the HPC, at the close of the hearing, based upon all the testimony and records, including a HPC staff report dated October 14, 2009 which recommended denying the said permit application, moved to deny the application based upon the Findings of Fact set forth in the HPC staff report and provided to the applicant on October 23, 2009 in a Letter of Denial from the HPC as follows: 16 1. 17 18 2. 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 3. 27 28 29 30 31 4. 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 5. 42 The house is considered pivotal to the Hill District. There are not any photos of the residence with a slate roof, nor was staff able to locate a permit far the installation of a slate roof. There are wood shingles remaining on the roof and staff did locate a permit from 1913 for a reroof at the property with shingles. The guideline states, "repair or replacement of missing architectural features should be based on accurate duplications of features, substantiated by historic, physical, or pictorial evidence rather than on conjectural designs or the availability of different architectural elements from other buildings or structures." [Leg. Code §74.6a(6)]. The installation of synthetic slate would not comply with the guideline. The proposed material, synthetic slate in an evergreen blend, would differ to such an extent from the old (asphalt shingle or wood shingle) "in composition, size, shape, color or texture that the appearance of the building would be altered." [Leg. Code § 74.64(d)(1)]. The guideline states materials that would alter the appearance should not be used. There is evidence that the residence had a wood shingle roof. Wood shingles in the nineteenth century were often dipped in creosote to preserve them, giving them a very dark brown color. Victorians often stained wood shingles deep red or dark green to complement rather than match the color of the house. [Leg. Code § 74.64(d)(2)]. The installation of wood shingles, synthetic wood shingles of an appropriate size and color or asphalt shingles of an appropriate color and style could be reviewed and approved by HPC staff. The installation of a synthetic shingle that would mimic slate in an evergreen blend would not be historically accurate as far as materials are concerned, but would also be inappropriate in color, as the roof color should "complement rather than match the color of the house." [Leg. Code § 74.64(d)(2)]. The proposal will adversely impact the program for preservarion for the Hill Historic District. � �t'g•°S D�f - (3Kg 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 WHEREAS, on or about November 4, 2009, the property owner, Hubert Nelson, pursuant to Leg. Code § 73.06(h) duly filed an appeal from the decision of the HPC and requested a public hearing before the City Council for the purpose of considering the action taken by the HPC; and WHEREAS, on December 2, 2009, a public hearing was duly conducted before the City Council where all interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard and, at the close of the public hearing, the City Council, having heard the statements made and having considered the application, the testimony, the report of staff and the record, minutes and resolution of the HPC; does hereby RESOLVE, that the HPC's decision to deny the said building permit is hereby overturned. The Council finds that the appellant has demonstrated error with respect to HPC finding No. 4. Although the Council finds no error with respect to the HPC's findings 1 through 3, and the Council recognizes that artificial slate shingles would not necessarily meet all of the requirements expressed in the District guidelines regarding the composition, size, shape and texture of replacement roofing material, the Council also finds that the proposed shingles do not harm the original roof type, slope or overhang of this home. Because the proposed shingles do not significantly alter the overall distinguishing character or stylistic features of this property, the proposed style of shingles constitute a minimal alteration that is not othenvise inconsistent with the various different forms of roofing material that the record shows to have been used on this property over the course of time; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the appeal of Hubert Nelson be and is hereby 9ranted; and be it FINALLY RESOLVED, that the Council secretary shall mail a copy of this resolution to the Appellant Hubert Nelson, the Heritage Preservation Commission, and the Zoning Administrator. Bostrom Hasis Yeas Nays Absent Requeste� ��art t of: �_ �` a ✓ / � By. . Approved by the Office of Financial Services By: "Phune ,i" Approved y City ttomey d G� By: . G✓. �cwr-�— 12_ a-� o�i Adopted by Council: Date ��3/d 9 Appxpved b yor fo ubmissi to Cou il Adoption Certified by Cou�eil Secretary By: BY� � S 4 Approv M y"� . Date ( (p p By: � Green Sheet Green Sheet Green Sheet Green Sheet Green Sheet Green Sheet � � DepartrnentlOffice/Councii: Date Initiated: � �'�� cA_°��"tt°meY ! ogoE�2oa9 ! Green Sheet NO: 3090936 , Contad Person & Phone: ; Peter Wamer 266-8710 �� Must Be an Councia {�qenda by 23-DEG09 � � I Doa Type: RESOLUTION E-Document Required: Y Document Contact: Julie Kraus ConWct Phone: 2668776 iy � i o �c�ro anoro 1 L7tv attom i� Assign j 2 CitvAttorn � Number � 3� a or's Of j For � Routing i 4 Council Order � 5 i Clerk , � �=-�en � � ' �� +1 , V�� Tota! # of Signature Pages _(Clip q{I LocaGons for Signature) Memorializing City Council's December 2, 2009, motion to overhun the Heritage Preservation Commission's decision to deny a building permit to Jason Moreau d/b/a Cleaz Choice Conshucrion, LLC for the premises located at 534 Smnmit Avenue in Saint Paul. Recommendations: Approve (A) or Reject (R): Planning Commission CIB Committee Civil Service Commission Personal Service Contrects Must Mswer the Foilowing questions: 1. Has this person/firm ever worked under a contract for this department? Yes No 2. Has this person/firm ever been a city employee? Yes No 3. Does this person/firm possess a skill not normally possessed by any current city employee? Yes No Explain all yes answers on separete sheet and attach to green sheet. Initiating Problem, Issues, Opportunity (Who, What, When, Where, Why): The Council is required pursuant to City Charter to have its acrions reduced to writing either in the form of a resolution or an ordinance dependent upon the nature of the matter before it. The decision of the Council in this matter required a written resolurion in order to comply with the Charter. Advantages If Approved: Approving the attached resolution fulfills the Counci'ls duty under the Charter. Disadvantages If Approved: Failure to approve the resolution violates the City's Charter requirement. Disadvantages If Not Approved: Total Amount of Trensaction: Funding Source: Financial Information: (Explain) CostlRevenue Budgeted: Activity Number. December 8, 2009 '1:19 PM Page 1 DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT Cecde Bedor, D�rec[or �� CITY OF SAINT PAUL Chr�stopher B. Coleman, Mayor 25 West Fourth Stree! Saint Pau(, MN55/02 November 9, 2009 (chanQed letterhead November 16. 2009) Ms. Mary Erickson City Council Reseazch Office Room 310 City Hall Saint Paul, MN 55102 Dear Ms. Erickson: / / Q Telephone� 651-266-6700 Facsemde 6il-228-3220 I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday, December 2, 2009 for the following heritage preservation case: Appellant(s): File Number: Purpose: LocaYion: Staff Recommendation: Hubert Nelson, owner 10-001 Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission decision denying a proposal to install a synthetic slate rooFwithin the Hil] Historic District 534 Summit Avenue, Hill Historic District Denial Commission: Approval of the 'staff recommendation based on the findings, discussion at the hearing and pub]ic testimony (7 to 0). I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Dave Thune. My understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the CiTy Council at your earliest convenience and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks! NOTICE OF PUBLIC IiEARING The Saint Paul City Council will con- duct a public hearin on Wednesday, De- cemtier 2, 2009 at �30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, Third Floor, City Hall/Courthouse, �15 West Keilo¢? Boule- vud, St. Paul, NIN, to wnsider ffie appeal of Hubert Nelson, owner, to a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission de- nying a proposal ta instatl a synthetic slate roof at 534 Summit Avenue, Hill His- toric Distnct. Dated: November 10, 2009 Mary Erlckson ' ,ABSistauEQty-0QUnoi1-Seeretar} � � - , (November.l2) __ _=" PAtlL bEGAi. YBDGER --____ 22223814 , . .. • Please call me at 266-6714 if you have any questions. Sincerely, "�LC'�-� Amy Spong Historic Preservation Specialist CC: Council Member Dave Thune via e-mail) Peter Wamer, CAO via e-mail) Hub Nelson, Appellant Jason Moreau, Contractor File • . 0�1- I��`� Z a°�- � �� Re: 534 Summit Avenue. Hill Historic District HPC File #10-001 To the Heritage Preservation Commission : I am appealing the decision that was given on October 22th 2009. It was an application for a building permit to install a synthetic slate roof at the property 534 Summit Ave. # File 10-001. Grounds for the appeal 1. The architure has changad from a Victorian style to a Tudor Revival approx 1920-1930 2. Historic precedent had been set with a synthetic slate asbestos roof. 3. There are 22 Tudor Revival Houses on Summit Avenue with Slate Roofs 4. The HPC decision allows an asphalt roof which is inferior in function and in design. Does this decision made by the HPC, enhance the Historic District? -�1� 1J e\SD� �`� SuN.�.� -�°`� " �-,Pa.,�l, MtiJ S�(oZ ��ti-5��-- o�o�►� fso,�, Mor�ea,vCt�S�-£�s' 0035� Ge9^' C9�oice� C.vn�'� °'n t-�'C" 2 C�pP �d � �- - po-� �, i-�r� 5� 1 I�� l� ��5 ,� ��^-- 111��0�1 �O 1�� DEPARTMENT OF PLANNRJG & � ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ...e, m. Cecile Bedar, D:rector i� CTTY OF SAINT PAUL Christopher B Coleman, Mayor • • Document2 MEMORANDUM TO: City Council Members CC: Peter Warner, CAO Donna Drummond, PED FROM: Amy Spong, HPC st�S• RE: HPC appeal for 534 Summit Avenue, DATE: November 19, 2009 25 WestFourth S1ree1 Saimt Paul, MN 55102 Hill Historic District Te[ephane: 651-266-6700 Facsimile. 651-228-3220 The following attachments highlight the main events that have taken place and relate to the HPC review of the buiiding permit application to replace an existing asphalt shingle roof with imitation slate: Pages 1 to 2 Notice to City Council to schedule appeal. Page 3 Grounds for an appeal by appellant Hubert Nelson, owner. Pages 4 to 10 The staff report recommending denial and site photos. Pages 11 to 25 The application with attachments. Pages 26 to 28 Unapproved summary minutes from the October 22 public hearing. Pages 29 to 30 The final decision letter with conditions and a letter from a neighbor included as public testimony. Pages 31 to 32 An historical photo and outline of building permits and the period of significance for the Hill Historic District. AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER o�-�� • Re: 534 Summit Avenue. Hill Historic District HPC File #10-001 To the Heritage Preservation Commission : I am appealing the decision that was given on October 22th 2009. It was an application for a building permit to install a synthetic slate roof at the property 534 Summit Ave. # File 10-001. Grounds for the appeal 1. The architure has changad from a Victorian • style to a Tudor Revival approg 1920-1930 2. Historic precedent had been set with a synthetic slate asbestos roof. 3. There are 22 Tudor Revival Houses on Summit Avenue with Slate Roofs 4. The HPC decisi6n allows an asphalt roof which is inferior in function and in design. Does this decision made by the HPC, enhance the Historic District? ; � � ��- � ��vd <<�y�°q PE� 1�1� �i��' � u • • CITY OF SAINT PAUL HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION FILE NAlVIE: 534 Summit Avenue DATE OF APPLICATION: September 10, 2009 APPLICANT: Jason Moreau, Cleaz Choice Construction LLC OWNER: Hubert Nelson DATE OF HEAIZING: October 22, 2009 HPC SITE/DISTRICT: Hill Historic District CATEGORY: Pivotal CLASSIFICATION: Building Permit STAFF REPORT: Christine Boulwaze Agenda Item V.A. HPC File #10-001 D�1'l� DATE: October 14, 2009 A. SITE DESCRIPTION: 534 Summit Avenue is a single family residence constructed in 1882 and designed by A.M. Radciiffe. According to the National Register survey the house was originally designed in the Victorian style but was remodeled into a vernaculaz Tudor Revival in the 1920s. The house was remodeled in 1947 and in 1997. The struchzre is categorized as pivotal to the Hill Historic District. The garage is located off the alley but is accessed by a driveway from Summit Avenue and from the alley. The garage is not noted in the National Register survey but is noted in the local HPC survey but not categorized or described. Directly across the alley is a 4 car garage constructed in 1988. The property encompasses a total of five city lots. B. PROPOSED CHANGES: The applicant is proposing to tear off the existing roof and install DaVinci, synthetic slate shingles in the Evergreen blend (three shades of green to match the house). According to the applicant, three layers of shingles are being removed that include asphalt and wood. C. GUIDELINE CITATIONS: Hill District Guidelines Restoration and Rehabil#ation General Principles: 1. Every reasonable effort shaZl be made to provide a compatible use for a property which requires minimal alteration of the building, structure, or site and its environment, or to use a property for its originally intended purpose. 2. The distinguishing original gualities or character of a building, structure, or site and its environment shall not be destroyed. The removal or alteration of any historic material or distinctive architectural features should be avoided when possible. 3. All buildings, structures, and sites shall be recognized as praducts oftheir own time Alterations that have no historical basis and which seek to create an earlier appearance shall be discouraged A. Changes which may have taken place in the caurse oftime are evidence ofthe history and develapment af a buiZding, structure, or site and its environment. Theses changes may have acquired sign�cance in their own right, and this signifzcance shall be recognized and respected. 5. Distinctive stylistic features or examples ofskilled craftsmanship which characterize a building, structure, or site sha11 be treated wizh sensitivity. 6. Deteriorated architectural features shall be repaired rather than repZaced, whenever possible. In the event replacement is necessary, the new material should match the material being replaced in composition, design, color, texture, andothervisuaZqualities. Repairorreplacementofmissingarchitectetralfeatures 1 „ a� - �� • Agenda Item V.A. HPC File #10-001 . shouZd be based on accurate duplications offeatures, substantiated by historic, physical, or pictorial evidence rather ihan on conjectural designs or the availabiliiy of dif}�erent architectural elements from other buildings or structures. 7. The svrface cleaning ofstructures shall be undertaken with the gentlest means possible Sandblasfing and other cleaning methods that will damage the historic building materials shall not be undertaken. 8. Every reasonable effort shall be made to protect and preserve archaeological resources affected by, or adjacent to any project. 9. Contemporary design for alterations and additions to existingproperfies shall not be discouraged when such atterations and additions do not destroy significant historical, architectural or culturai material, and such design is campatible with the size, scale, color, material, and character of the property, neighborhood, or environment. /0. Whereverpossible, new additions or alterations to structures shall be dane in such a manner that ifsuch alterations were to be removed in the future, the essential form and integrity of the structure would be unimpaired. Roo s: Original roofing materials should be retained unless deteriorated. When partially reroofng, deteriorated roof coverings should be replaced with new materials that match the o1d in composition, size, shape and texture. YVhen entirely reroofing, new materials which d�er to such an extentfrom the old in composition, size, shape, color or texture that the appearance of the building is altered should not be used. Wood shingles in the nineteenth century were often dipped in creosote to preserve them, giving them a very dark brown color. Victorians often stained wood shingles deep red or darkgreen to complement rather than match the color of the house. When asphalt shingles began to be used in the 1890's, the most common colors • were solid, uniform, deep red and solid, uniform, darkgreen. A weathered-wood color may be acceptable for new asphalt shingZes because it is neutral and blends in. Black may be acceptable far Colonial Revival houses built after the 1920's, but it should be avoided for Victorian houses. The original roof type, slope, and overhangs shou[d be preserved. New dormers may be acceptable in some cases if compatible with the original design. Modern skylights are a simple way to alter a roof to admit light and air without disrupting its plane surface, are less noticeable than dormers, and may also be acceptable. Skylights should be flat and as close to the roofplane as possible. They should not be placed on the frant roof plane. D. FINDINGS: 1. The house is considered pivotal to the Hill District. 2. There aze not any photos of the residence with a slate roof, nor was staff able to locate a perxnit for the installation of a slate roo£ There aze wood shingles remaining on the roof and stafF did locate a permit from 1913 for a reroof at the property with shingles. The guideline states, Repair or replacement of missing architectural features should be based on accurate duplications offeatures, substantiated by historic, physical, or pictorial evidence rather than on conjectural designs or the availability of different architectural elements from other buildings or structures. The installation of synthetic slate would not comply with the guideline. 3. The pxoposed material, synthetic slate in an evergreen blend, would differ to such an extent from the old (asphalt shingle or wood shingle) in composition, size, shape, color or texture that the appearance of the building would be altered. The guideline states materials that would alter the appeazance should not be used. • 4. There is evidence that the residence had a wood shingle roo£ Wood shingles in the nineteenth century were often dipped in creosote to preserve them, giving them a very dark brown color. Victorians often stained wood shingles deep red or dark green to complement rather than match the color of the house. The installation of wood shingle, synthetic wood � �� //� Agenda Item V.A� � � HPC File #10-001 • shingles of an appropriate size and color or asphalt shingle of an appropriate color and style could be reviewed and approved by HPC staff. The installation of a synthetic shingle that would mimic slate in an evergreen blend would not be historicalty accurate as far as materials are concerned, but would also be inappropriate in color, as the roof color should complement rather than match the color of the house. 5. The proposal will adversely impact the program for preservation for the Hill Historic District. E. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: - Based on the findings, staff recommends denial of the permit application. • • l( � / 1 ► ..�Ja'G �� y9 ' �� j�-�' ..�r ma � anas �� .�`}� �� '�� . � � -�: ' � __. ,,. ,�s � � . � �� - ,_ " F�. , : __, , ._ _ . 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CATEGORY Pl se check the category that best describes the proposed work Repair/Rehabilitation ❑ Sign/Awning ❑ New Construction/Addition/ ❑Moving ❑Fence{RetainingWall Alteration ❑ Demolition ❑ Other ❑ Pre-Application Review Only 2. PROJECT ADDRESS Street and number: �� J��' "� �� Zip Code: SSIOZ •'d2� O�/ 3. APPLICANT INFORMATION Name of contact person: Company: �� m✓ ��3 ��5�'K��rN�. L1 r Street and number: �l� /S � City: � �� State: /F/� Zip Code: � Phone number: � �° lS e-mail: 4. PROPERTY OWNER(S) INFORMATION (If different from applicant) Name: �IIA�¢-Y-�' /L1 Sueet and nu . ber: �3 y City: �� State: _�/v Zip Code: .�/� Z Phonenumber: �( s/ ) �S7 'UC�O� e-mail: �' . u �� 5. PROJECT ARCffiTECT (If applicable) Contact person: Company: Street and number: City: State: Phone number: (_) e-mail: 6. PROJECT DESCRIPTION Zip Code: Completely describe ALL exterior changes being proposed for the property, Include changes to architectural details such as windows, doors, siding, railings, steps, trim, roof, foundation or porches. Attach specifications for doors, windows, lighting and other features, if applicable, including color and material samples. �r.�r � //?S� �'vt;% ree.-� �VLLeJ �1ii'n c�' �/Bi7Z.. �J �� 3 �ret�s �{0 11na.'tG� Cl,crhx.�� Attach addifranql sheets ifnecessary 7. ATTACHNIENTS Refer to the Design Review Process sheet for required information or attachments. *'INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS WILL BE RETURNED** ARE THE NECESSARY ATTACHMENTS AND 1NFORMATION INCLUDED? ❑ YES Will any fedetal money be used in this project? YES _ NO _ • Are you applying for the Investment Tax Credits? YES _ NO , 2 !� ,� J � o �I � I�g$ � • I, the undersigned, understand that the Design Review Application is limited to the aforementioned work to the affected property. I further understand that any addirional exterior work to be done under my ownership must be submitted by applicati n to the St. Paul Heritage Preservation Commission. Any unauthorized work will be requir to d. //�� Signature of applicant: Date: �/•� Signature of owner: Date: Date received: �' � �' �� District: � �L /Individual Site: FILE NO. Contributing/Non-contributing/Pivota]/Supportive/: Type of work: Minor/Moderate/Major _ Requires staff review Supporting data: YES NO Complete application: YES NO The following condirion(s) must be met in order for application to conform to preservation program: Requires Commission review Submitted: ❑ 3 Sets of Plans Hearing Date set for: • It has been determined that the work to be performed pursuant to the application does not adversely affect the program for preservation and architectural control of the heritage preservafion district or site (CL.73.06). HPC staff approval Date ❑ 1 Set of Plans reduced to 8%z" by 1 I" or I 1" by 17" ❑ Photographs ❑ City Permit Application ❑ Complete HPC Design Review application CityPermit# ��} - 2��'�1 ak ?a>on 9�23'�q �bid h+m �o �p-�11ne bf�fl.f D� �� ,43 . � �� i'1°) � �Uri •� �COw+► �3 Roofing systems - Quality roofmg tiles and systems - Roofmg materials and systems at D... Page 2 of 2 d� ��'J� � P� iC o� � �o � • site by spyn studio i �� Page 1 of 1 �� '1� Christine Boulware - Fwd: IMG00080-20090909-1628.jpg • From: "mr. moreau" <qualityconstruction.jm@gmaii.com> To: <christine.boulwaze(cr�,ci.stpaul.mn.us> Date: 9/10/2009 922 AM �j 3 y� U YVl YV� l 1 Subject: Fwd:IMG00080-20090909-1628.jpg Attachments: IMG00080-20090909-1628 jpg Hello Christine - Here aze the pictures of the property, there aze 3. The product is Davinci Roofscapes, web address is www.davinciroofscapes.com .. Also the Home owner Hubert Nelson, has orginal pictures of the slate roof, that I can also send. Please let me know how or if anything I can do to help the process. Mr. Nelson has worked with Amy who is also in your office I believe in the past on restoration work. Thank you again, Jason Moreau Cleaz Choice Construction 651-895-0035 C� • t S file://C:\Documents and Settings\boulwazc\Local Settings\Temp\XPgrpwise\4AA8C53Cm... 9/10/2009 . •.e .._�l _ ��.�_�,,,i°2_"�-'� .. `zf+ i / -� �.�'.. , .. . __�-_ ■\� _ .� � �y . . � u�� , � ' � � r r �x � , �._ W�_ � � �; �� f�l! r3"' ' _ i -,`• � _:, . � :, 1 . r � Y � �� 1 � . t ` Y ., � � r��..�;. < �; -�; 'as: . � .� „� : > , M � �-> : h , �`��a� . . ^ T • 1L�.'^, y` �T. y �. .. - .q�•n � . S '. ♦, v > n/\ s' n v. . z:'_' ti v . \ .(::'. . . .`^� {':. ' ^.i^4�'" R�R^.�?"'•�'1'R ''^ . � ., . _._- `. , . . . . ..,. __. . 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Thanksjason651-895-0035 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry —Original Message— From: "Christine Boulware" <Christine.BOUlware@ci.stpaul.mn us> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:16:07 To: <qualityconstruction.jm@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: IMG00080-20090909-1628.jpg Sure, you could drop them off. Our address is in my signature. What color blend were you proposing with the tear off and reroof'� What else is there in the scope� chimney� fascia? soffit? gutters? downspouts? ridges and valleys� Christine Boulware Historic Preservation Planner Planning and Economic Development � 25 Fourth Street West, Suite 1400; Saint Paul, MN 55102 P: 651-266-6715 F' 651-2283220 christine.boulware@ci.stpaul.mn. us Making Saint Paul the Most Livable City in America • »> <qualityconstruction.jm@gmail.com> 9/11/2009 10:09 AM »> Mr nelson has area photos. May I drop them off, he would like to have them back Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: "Christine Boulware" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:59�01 -0500 To� mr. moreau<qualityconstruction.jm@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: IMG00080-20090909-1628.jpg can you scan and email the old photos of the home� -Christine »> "mr. moreau" <qualRyconstruction.jm@gmail.com> 9/10/2009 9:19 AM »> Hello Christine - Here are the pictures of the property, there are 3. The product is Davinci Roofscapes, web address is www.davinciroofscapes.com .. Also the Home owner Hubert Nelson, has orginal pictures of the slate roof, that I can also send. Please iei me know how or if anything I can do to help the process. Mr. Nelson has worked with Amy who is aiso in your office I believe in the past on restoration work. 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Slate Roof Central - Asbestos Roofs There are at least three types of asbestos shingles. Regular flat shingle tiles are shown at top; common diamond shaped tiles are shown at middle, and side-lap tiles are shown above It is difficult to find asbestos replacement tiles that match the original roof in color shade, although there is a page on this site listing some sources of asbestos tiles. Note the three replacement tiles on the diamond asbestos roof above (they appear whiter than the original tiles). Asbestos is a brittle and fregile material. It rannot be walked on as the tiles will crack and these hairline cracks, which are hard to see, will leak. Asbestos tiles can be cut with a Slate Cutter, some of which, in fad, were originally manufactured to cut asbestos tiles. This tool will also punch holes in asbestos tiles - no small feat as they tend to crack otherwise. You can also put holes in asbestos tiles by using a small masonry drill bit (3/16" for example). You can work on asbestos roofs by using hook ladders. A ladder hook is inexpensive and works pretty well on asbestos roofs. Slate hooks work well for fastening replacement tiles in place. On diamond shaped tiles use two hooks, one at 4 o clock and one at 8 0 clock (see beiow). When you use slate hooks you don't have to drill the tiles or caulk anything. You can also use copper nails to nail the asbestos tiles back in piace after taking the roof apart (such as when you replace flashings). The last (top) row of tiles, however, will probably have to be installed with slate hooks. Here is an illustration showing how to use slate hooks to repair an asbestos roof. A routine chimney flashing job on an asbestos roof in Grove City, PA (below): Page 2 of 3 v I' �� Slate Roof Bible The award-winning book! Slate �deo Clips InstrucUOnal videos. Slate Roo£ng Tools Amenca's best source! Slate Roof Links Find it here. Traditional Roofing Mag. Articles galore online! v �; �[ rt"' Joseph Jenkins, Inc. Info rich hub site! Contractor Directory Find contradors now. Our Library Slate roofing books. SOURCES: New Slate hftnt//tx�ww_ ienkin.celate_enm/nhntn.a 11DV1L�.QGt � �- Z� ��y �,,,�.. �a-- 10/22/2009 � � _ I Slate Roof Central - Asbestos Roofs Page 3 of 3 U�1 �� Salvaged Slate Ceramic Roof Tile Asbestos Tiles Architectural Sheet Metal A!l mafenal herem O 1998-2009 Joseph Jenkins Incorpo2ted ali nghts reserved. � � .� ' i • SUMMEIRY MINUTES OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Lower Level — Room 40, City HalUCourt House, 15 West Kellogg Boulevard October 22, 2009 Present: Carol Cazey, April Haas, Mark Thomas, Steve Trimble, Diane Trout-Oertel, John Manning, David Rhiele Absent: Pat Igo (excused), Lee Meyer (excused), Sherry Enzler (unexcused) Staff Present: Amy Spong, Sara Nelson BUSINESS MEETING CALL TO ORDER: 5:07 PM by John Manning (Chair) I. Approval of the Agenda II. Conflict of Interest — None stated III. Chair's Announcements — None stated IV. Staff Announcements — None stated V. Permit Review/Public Hearings A. 534 Summit Avenue, Hill Historic District, by Clear Choice Construction LLC, for a • building permit to install a synthetic slate roof at the residence. File #10-001 (Boulware, 266- 6715) Staff reported the background and findings. Commissioner Trout-Oertel asked if synthetic slate was approved before. HPC staff stated that synthetic slate has been approved for properties that originally had slate but was then removed at some point in time. Staff also stated a recent example on Summit Avenue where a synthetic wood roof was approved because the house originally had wood shingles. The homeowner, Hubert Nelson, presented information he found online (www.oldhouseweb.com) that stated "The earliest imitation of slate roofs were with cement asbestos tiles that proved to be quite durable, but the colors didn't last. The thickness, texture, and dimensions didn't exactly replicate natural s]ate either." Since one layer on the roof was the cement asbestos imitation slate, he believes he should be allowed a new style of imitation slate. He had surveyed the neighborhood and found that there were only four houses with stucco walls and wood shingles, but more than twenty with stone walls and slate. The siding treatment should be taken into consideration, and slate is more frequently used with stucco exteriors. Commissioner Trimble asked for clazification on the layers on the roof now; cedar shakes are on the bottom layer. It is estimated that the imitation slate cement asbestos was added sometime after 1935. Commissioner Carey asked how much cement asbestos is left and if there are any exposed areas. There are very few areas left. Most is covered since the material is not durable and is starting to crack. Commissioner Trout-Oertel remarked that although the cement asbestos may have historically been marketed as slate-like, the sample shown to the commission is a poor imitation — the color and texture resemble wood more than slate. Robert Roscoe of Design for Preservation then spoke on behalf of the applicant. He commended the HPC for typically exercising reasonable judgment, but the case here is different because the applicant has already • purchased the ($25,000) shingles. He believes the house has already lost its original design integrity since it has changed styles over time. He also pointed out that, as the staff report states, the color name is Evergreen, but the actual color is more of a gray. Roscoe reiterated that slate is a sympathetic material to stucco. Commissioner Chair Manning asked, since the original design has been altered, what is the Z� �, i �� . prevailing style today? Roscoe believes it has lost the core Tudor elemenu. Commissioner Trout-Oertel asked when most changes were made. It was unclear, but staff stated that the Tudor changes were long enough ago to be considered during the period of significance. The project roofer, Jason Moreau of Cleaz Choice Construction, was under the impression that the imitation slate shingles could be purchased because what had been on the roof before could be replaced. He went on to promote the pro's of the product, including fire retardant, recyclable, cost-effective, and "green." He reinforced the argument of concrete asbestos shingles being similar to slate because it was the same style to cut the shingles as cutting slate. Commissioner Carey wondered if the shingles can be returned. Moreau would need to check with the vendor. She also wondered about the durability of them, and Moreau said their life expectancy was "lifetime," typically 30-50 years. HPC staff told the Commission that the same supplier that sold the synthetic slate tiles also sells synthetic wood shingles. Staff had told the applicant that they could approve an application that proposed a synthetic wood shingle because wood shingles were the main historic material. They were clear with the applicant and contractor that no real slate was ever on the roof, and that although it is unknown when the asbestos shingles were added, they were sure that they were not a significant aspect of the house. Moreau concluded that he was told that whatever used to be on the roof could be replaced and Commissioner Trout-Oertel added that real slate nor anything that truly resembled s]ate was present. Staff read a letter from a neighbor encouraging the HPC to "embrace new technology" into the public record. The public hearing was closed and Commissioner Trout-Oertel motioned to adopt the staff recommendation and findings. Commissioner Haas seconded the motion. Commissioner Trout-Oertel confirmed that situations are difficult when product has been pre-purchased, but that needs to be considered irrelevant in order to avoid a dangerous precedent being set. Nothing on the roof ever resembled slate and the proposed product does not truly look like it, either. Commissioner Thomas added that during that • period, the cement asbestos was more of a utilitarian solution and not a design feature of imitation slate. Commissioner Haas agreed with the last two commissioner's statements and added that historically, cement asbestos synthetic slate never looked, felt, or canied the same presence as real slate. The HPC moved to accept the staff recomme�dation and the motion carried 6-0. B. 701 Summit Avenue, Hill Historic District, by Tom Johnson, for a building permit to alter the design of the terra cotta tiles on the east and west elevation bay and bump-out. File #10- 002 (Boulware 266-6715) (notincluded) C. University-Raymond Streetscape Improvements for Central Corridor, University- Raymond Commercial Historic District, by Met. Council, for review of baseline and betterments along University Avenue from Cromwell Avenue to Hampden Avenue. File #10- 003(Spong,266-6714) (not included) D. Lowertown Streetscape Improvements for Central Corridor, Lowertown Historic District, by Met. Council, for review of baseline and betterments along Fourth Street from Jackson Street to Broadway Street. File #10-004 (Spong, 266-6714) (notincluded) E. 526 Selby Avenue, Hill Historic District, by Veesenmeyer Stucco, for a permit to stucco the east and south elevation brick walls and fill in two window openings. File #10-005 (Spong, 266-6714) (not included) F. 178 Maple Street, Dayton's BluFf Historic District, Lance Scott, owner, for a building • permit to remove the existing garage, construct a new garage at the adjacent lot, extend a driveway from Maple Street to the new garage and remove the rear porch on the house. File #10-006 (Boulware, 266-6715) (notincluded) Z� � • VI. New Business Laid over until next meeting VII. Committee Reports A. 3M Committee update (Cazey, Trunble) Laid over until next meeting B. Public Safety Building, 106 Process update (Manning, Igo) Laid over until next meeting VIII. Adjourn: 8:00 PM Submitted by: Saza Nelson • l J 3 � • CTTY OF SAIN'I' PAUL Chrrstopher B. Co(eman, Mayor October 23, 2009 7ason Moreau Clear Choice Construction LLC 2375 Capp Road Saint Paul, MN 55114 Re: 534 Summit Avenue, Hill Historic District October 22, 2009 - Agenda Item V.A. HPC File #10-001 Dear Mr. Moreau: DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT Cecife Bedor, Director 25 West FourJh Street Saint Pwl, MN 55102 Q "'�," JZ7 V Telephone: 651-266-6700 Facsrmrle' 65/-228-3220 As you know, the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) considered at its October 22, 2009 meeting • your application for a building permit to install a synthetic slate roof at the property listed above. The HPC voted 7— 0 to deny your application. This decision was based on the discussion at the public hearing, public testimony and findings by HPC staff. You or any aggrieved party has the right to appeal the Heritage Preservation Commission's decision to the Saint Paul City Council under Chapter 73 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code. Such an appeal must be filed within 14 days of the date of the HPC's order and decision. Chapter 73 states: (h) Appeal to city council. The permit applicant or any party aggrieved by the decision of the heritage preservation commission shall, within fourteen (]4) days of the date of the heritage preservation commission's order and decision, have a right to appeal such order and decision to the city council. The appeal shall be deemed perfected upon receipt by the division of p[anning of rivo (2) copies of a notice of appeal and statement setting forth the grounds for the appeal. The division of planning shall transmit one copy of the notice of appeal and statement to the city council and one copy to the heritage preservation commission. The commission, in any wriiten order derrying a permii applicaiion, shall advise the applicant of the right to appea[ to the city council and include this paragraph in a[I such orders. Please feel free to call staff at 651-266-9078 if you have any questions. • Sincerely, �� Amy Spong Historic Preservation Specialist cc: Greg Johnson, building inspector (via email) Huberj Nelson, owner File✓ AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER Z`� � � u a � i ' ; �� 1� \� .� �,�� 0 .� � � , ,, � � � � C� � � � � �Z � � � y � v C � � �� '� 1� / �1N � y � �C�U � : �.�� `� � � �o,� ro� r �� 1 .� � � '\ � v� � � � �� -; `� . � �1 ' � �a �.� L'� � � .� � a � \ � � G � �° � �, � y � ,• .� , � � y � � �,v � � � � �� y� � � U � .` ��'��'=� � � { � �� o �� P � r"N o N m � (JI N M� ao� � � 0 � � O � _."___ _ ?7` , . � � � �U � � � � o °' i �1��b � ° � � � � � \ � �' � N �v� "a � � \` ' � �� y`� � �,�s�� 3� DEPARTNIENT OF PLANNMG & � ECONOM[CDEVELOPMENT e..artr. Cecile Bedar, Onector CTTY OF SAINT' PAUL Chrislopher B. Coleman, Mayar • 25 West Fvu�th Street Telephone� 651-266-6700 SaintPaul, MN55l02 Focsrmile 65l-218-3220 MEMORANDUM FROM: Amy Spong, HPC staff RE: HPC appeal for 534 Summit Avenue, Hill Historic District DATE: November 19, 2009 The following clarifies a timeline of changes to the property and which changes occur within a period of significance: 1. The Period of significance refers to the span of time during which significant events and activities occurred. Events and associations with historic properties are finite; most properties have a ciearly definable period of significance. This period for the Hill Historic District is from 1870 to 1930. This relates to the district's major stages of residential construction which were strong through the 1920's and then languished and even halted after the stock market crash of 19Z9. It was during the 1930's that noticeabie changes in the character of the Hill occurred due to the financial crisis. 2. Building chronology of 534 Summit: 1882 Designed by architect A.M. Radcliffe in a �ictorian Era sty/e at an esdmated cost of$9,000 1913 Addition to building and interio� �emodeling designed by architect Peter Linhoff at an estimated cost of $12, 000 (�ooFng mateiial noted as shing/es). This is like/y when the building was remode%d to a Tudo� sty/e. 1925 Addition to bui/ding at an estimated cost of $'S,000 (no roofing material nofed). 1945 Reroofing of 3,500 square feet at an estimated cost of $1,500. 1947 Reroof at an estimated cost of $209. 1949 Replacement of cement floor at cost of $900. • 3. The italicized items reflect changes made to the structure during the Period of Significance. 4. The applicant believes the asbestos shingles were installed sometime after the 1930's and stafF would concur. The 1945 permit is likely when the asbestos shingles were installed. Prior to that time the roofing materials was wood shingles for peaked roofs and membrane for flat roofs. 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Made from asbestos, an inorganic, fibrous mineral, and Portiand or hydraulic cement, : economical, and firepruo The Asbestos Shingie, Siate, and Sheafhing Company touted fhe advantages of iheir shingles with depictions of suxessful insNaliations in their �927 promotionai cxtalog and price IisL (The Catalog of Johns-Manville Buil�ng Materials, Home Owners' Catalogue, A Guide to the Sekction of Building Materials Equipment and Fumishings, F. W. Dodge Corporation, 1936 Courtesy of The SxeeYs Gmup-The McGraw-Hili Companies, Inc) were � __ =�r- `"''°" "` "_•" "� A variety of shingle colors could �� n `^�°�°° be created b addin i ents m Y BP� �- �=-� the wet mix before pressing or by ' �° �{n rolling pigmems onto the �.-�.= surfaces of shingles. Colors 'unitating slates, including Indian "�� "'' "°'"" " � Red and Newport Grey, were '�""?�"_ � �� common, but many other colors .:��:,� �,.z:,�:.�,��.r.;:��:-_K . :��` ' � "-�._-.-'� - � "--•— �. �:. were avai(able. Manufacturers u'�ii� rers o`fasbes`tos=cemenfs'hingies� ;��ed potenfial customers Yhat � ofher asbestos budding products ,.Ppealed to arGritects and bui�ders cfirectly the's shingles were cotorfast th ea3ensive advertising mmpagns. These Unfortunately, many early � rawings aaompanied arcniteas�s '��yrtps-cement sFungles faded pecification indudetl in a publication of the bestos Shingle, Slate & Sheathing o�� tive, causing Col�bia ,c�,ick,�a��qew�, ; professorA. Vandervoort Walsh -� ,,,�. �_ _�__.._�.=_,_ ._,;. ' to exclaim in 1922: "For this reason we see on every hand red asbestos-shingle roofs which have bleached to sickly and thiisty pinks." Page 1 of 2 ��i'1��6� �: Concrete Roofing Tile I�'ot atl cemenritious roofin� products were asbestos-based. Concrete roofing tiles, which date from the 1840s, were produced in Germany by Adolph Kroher, a manufacturer of cement and concrete products, who developed a machine and process for pressins concrete tiles that resembled shingles. In the United States, as the concrete industry developed in the first decade of the 20th century, cast-in- ptace concrete roofin� sys[ems - and systems assembled with concrete slabs - evolved. The American Cement Tile Manufacturing Company, for instance, advertised "Cementile," a lar�e (2 feet by 5 feet by l 7/2 inches) steel-reinforced cement tile roofing, or slab. in the 1929 issue of SweeYs Architectural Catalogue. "Cementile" was offered as a fla[ sheet for sheathing or as an inter(ockine tile for a finished, watertight roof covering. Such roofing products found principat application for industrial buildings. Smaller concrete roofing tiles were available in the United States from companies such as Hawthome in Chica�o by the late1920s. Hawthome's mofing tiles, availabte in no fewer than fourteen calocs, simutated Spanish and French Clay tiles. Unlike asbestos-cement shin�les which were nailed in place, concre[e tiles were interlocking and laid on hanger strips. Hip and ridge tiles were naited in posi6on and holes were then pointed with matching mortar. http://www.nps.gov/history/hpshps/roofinge�ibiUasbestoscemenihtm 12/1/2009 From Asbestos to Zinc, Roofmg for Historic Buildings, National Pazk Service The hydTaulic pressing process enabled the shingles to he given a tezcture, such as a rough rusric surface or one imitating weathemd wood. The many styles and sizes of asbestos-cement shingles available, made possible roofs laid in various methods including American, Dutch Lap, and French (known in several variants as hexagonal, honeycomb or diamond). The French meThod was particu]azly populaz for asbes[os roofmg, capitatiang on fl�e economy of the material itself by laying it in an efficient manner requiring minimal overlap. Instaliarion of asbestos shingles was similaz to slate. S6ingles could be punched, filed, or trimmed to size in the field by mofing contractors. Companies such as behemoth Johns-Manville and The Asbestos Shingle, Slate, and Sheathing in Ambler in Pennsylvania promoted asbestos shin,,ales not only for new construction but also for roofing over e�sting roofs. .......... ,..-,._. :.r�.;..rz>r_.�-�c � � ..L.. _ � , T: - Ji:r .:ea�m: �:i ` � �7,....,.:'i: '. �:.. .�:°= °�i� t.t C;=._ �',�"�t :n�:'w'.:1 i:`l�^.:Sr:Ii%��7-e�� u "`.'.��i::::`( �.ia:�.e.c: ' ' � •.. . s.,..... . ... Johns-Manville promoted the direct application of their asbestos-cement shingles over wom roofing in this 7936 catalog. The Duich Lap roof being applied here was easy to instail and utilized a metal "clincher' to anchor exposed comers. (HOme Owners' Catalogue, A Guide to the Selection of Building Materiats EquipmeM and Furnishings, F. W. Dodge Corporation, 1936. Courtesy of The Sveet's Group-The McGraw-Hill Companies. Inc.) [cfick image fur �arger view] In addition to shingles, corrugated asbestos-cement sheathing, sometimes called asbestos building lumber, was produced by many manufacturers as a substitute for corrugated iron roofing. Used principally for industrial applications, corrugated asUestos could be laid direc@y on steel mof purlins. Industriat buildings in paniculaz benefited from the fireproofing qualities of asbestos-cement. Both asbestos-cement shingles--and siding—were produced into the 1980s, testimony to their populazity and affordability. The countless buiidings with this roofing material also attest to the durabi(iTy of the produc[. � ��*g f ;., � _ w#":a a H�me PagE To� ks � N ext Page 2 of 2 0'�' � �� ...._ I�� 6 ? _ '� �� m- — � Chicago-based Hawthome Roofing Tile Company o�ginally manufacturetl its tile irom slabs by a hand- process. These concrete roofing tiles depic[ed in the 1929 SweeYs Archkecturai Catalog imitated French and Spanish ciay liles. They were pmducetl wrth automated power-dmen equipment, antl the colors were imp�egnatetl on the Die surtace. (SweeY's Architecturai Catalogue, 7939. Courtesy of the SweeYs Group, McGraw Hill Companies, Inc.) [Gick image for larger view] http://www.nps.gov/history/hps/tps/roofinge�ibit/asbestoscement.htm 12/1/2009 ..-nvcc nznr:cnsae:� asbestos slate shingles history - Google Seazch Web �maoes vtleos Maos Nevrs S in mail more ♦ Goo�Ie asbestos siate shingles history .W�e > Timeline > All results _Videa News Bloas eoo s Forums > Any time Recentresults Pasthour Past 24 hours Pastweek Pastvear Soecific tlate ranae Stantlard view Related searc ¢� Wontlerwheel > Timeline Hide ootions 1860-2009 Searcn other tlates Search am�a s�ti, Page 1 of 2 o�'f �� earch seriinqs � Sian in Results 1-10 of abouf 2,230 for asbestos sWte shingles history. (0.'19 seconds) t907 t907 - Hatschek's new shingle vras ma`tceted as a pesma�ent and lightweight substitute fm expensive siate shingies. 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Page i of 3 ��-�� By Bambi Tumer eHow Contri6ufing Wrifer Cantr ArtiGeRating:i.,t��*(ORatings) -1 Asbestos shingles are a type of construction material used to fortn the exterior sheathing of a roof. They are very similar fo today's fiber cement shingles, but contain some quantity of asbestos fibers in additional to the tradftionai cement board elements. This materiai was used throughout much of the _ 20th century to construct roofs on homes and smali commercial buildings. Since the 1970s, � <' production of asbesioscontaining products has been discontinued due to health concems related to :.- h asbestos fibers. w�cruanecs�o�sni�sz History of Asbestos Shingles Asbestos was first used by builders in Europe in the 1800s, who added 'R to to siding, tiles, shingles, and a variety of other products. Once users began ta recognize the benefits of this material, its use quickty spread to the US. Asbestos shingles quickly began to replace other materials like slate and clay, which were more expensive and less durable. From the early 20th century through the 1970s, asbestos shingles remained one of the most dominant roofing materials available. While asbestos use was wide-spread, many also feared it was a healfh hazard, with deaths attributed to asbestos-exposure dating back to the 7920s. By the late 1970s, the dangers associated with asbestos could no longer be ignored. The EPA issued wamings regarding its use, and the resufting pubiic fiear effectively ended this producYs production by the 1980s. Currently, there are no US companies that stili produce shingles containing asbesios. Properties of Asbestos Shingles Throughout history, asbestos has been considered somewhat of a miracle product. It is as strong and durable as marble, yet is made up of fine threads that take up very 1'�ttle space. By adding it to shingles, manufacturers were able to increase their strength, making them more resistant to damage or extreme weather conditions. �n addition, the asbestos fibers made the shingles virtuaily fire-proof, which was a critical fador in the early 20th cenfury. Asbestos shingies aiso acted as thertnal insulators and helped to keep outside noises from entering the home. lt is important to note that these shingles were not made from asbestos aione, but were instead comprised mainly of cement. The term "asbestos shingles" means only that some amount of asbestos can be found in the material, with percentages usually ranging from 5 to 35 percent. Asbestos Dangers According to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), there is a definitive link between asbestos exposure and lung disease. When one breathes an asbestos fiber, it can become trapped in the lungs. As the body tries to rid itself of the fiber, fl can begin to cause damage to itself in the form of breathing difficulties, lung cancer, heart failure, or mesothelioma. Because of these dangers, asbestos uss in the bufiding industry was prohibited in the llS as ofi 1990. Existing asbestos shingles and other materials are permifted to stay in place, but new produds are banned from production or installation. Asbestos Shingles in the Home Many homes buift before the 1980s may have asbestos shingles, as well as asbesfos-containing roof felt and adhesive. As tong as the root is intact and the sfiingles are not disturbed, ihere is v�rtualiy no danger oi health effects from asbestos exposure. Danger occurs only when the fibers are breathed in, so as long as the asbestos is encased in the cement mBcture of the shingies, the fibers will not be airbome. If shingles become damaged in any way, the asbestos fibers may be released, posing a health hazard. In this case, the asbestos shingles shouid be removed or encapsulated by a trained and Iicensed professional. Attempting to remove asbestos shingles on your own can have qtastrophic consequences. By the same token, one should take qre to never drili into these shingies, or io disturb the surface using a power washer or any other tool. http:(Iwww.ehow.co.uk/about_5485287_asbestos-shingles.html 12/1/2009 Tmitation Slate Roofing 1'..:'cl�i,Y:��'1L'S_ E:ouse:t_*c_�-t:�?�^ : ::Z?la ( i =:. _'`� �.�,� / _{��ti'2£',.�� i `v-?_`=`_2','S � �'oabes __ _ 4es: at 11:c iP3s1r �'�� c�J __. � .'��'y .. i r ? � ` I � ��, a E�� ,�_, �`Vilaia�n ��F� I�A,'�'t?e �d�r�e fns�eetar Are manu. factured alterna�ives appropriate? ■ ..-. �, Yage 1 oY b s n c;.,,; �;, _�.,;�� _._ R j* _ �. ` . � �. �„ ��i °t � � g e ' , - `�st�c i .�' 4 � Ht'a '�t � � 3 r � s ;, e�a , a�, ��a � a�5 i @ 't i ... i a�a 2 s p ? � >,r � - h� a e �: -. �- `s 9� ;� � �h . _ '� ��e �. ` y . : . „� '., .` . � . ,. .�_ �. �_ ,�, , � ��. � : Y: . 1 y�, , ; e �. : , �. ��: ;. : '- , ^ �• My first concern is the experience and qualifications of the person that has condemned the roo£ Too aften I find someone with e�erience only with newer roofing systems lacks the knowledge to determine that, with proper repairs and regular maintenance, there may be some life left in an old slate roof. On other occasions, it can be abvious the person pronouncing a roof dead makes their living, and the most profit, selling quick-to- L..._. ��--..-_-- _ryaw,.....e..,et. ,.,..,, ri.,..�._t�._�.i�ri�Plimitatinn_elaSP_rnnftnv chfmj 10(22/2009 ��C2[ '.�£�^ .�??i:.-'a�iF3? esei5ia� �G'IgsraC�iCi�_ �v3F3 C � S�c; Storm Damage or Roof 25 years of roofing in Twin Cities. Slate Te� Replacement Free Estmates Cafl Free residen8at & commercia! est. 75 year u FOI' fzEfE�8fiC2S „ .•..G__:aocc�'s±ru�:,icr cem ...r,�l�viaS; _.:nxsP�oroc�er�g con Imitation Slate Roofing install roofing systems. Yage 1 oY 6 b'I'1��$ Another concern is if changing the roof system may alter the historic character of the building. The Secretary of the Interior's Standards for Rehabilitation advises "deteriorated historic features shall be repaired rather than replaced" but goes on to state "where the severity of deterioration requires replacement of a distinctive feature, the new feature shall match the old in design, color, te�ure, and other visual qualities and, where possible, materials." If it's not economically feasible to preserve the old slate roof or replace it with natural slate, I think it's best to find a material that comes closest to matching what is being replaced. For example, if your hame has gray Pennsylvania slate and ather homes in your area have the same, installing an imitation of New York red or Vermont green wouldn't be appropriate. In addition to color, the te�rture, dimension, and thickness should also be considered when comparing alternative materials. �phalt/Fi�e��lass �l�in�le� Up until the last couple decades, standard asphalt shingles have had a pretty boring iwo-dimensianal appearance. Now "dimensional" shingles create te�ires that are more representative of natural roofing praducts, Also, some styles have darker color granules applied in strategic locations to u...... u.,..,.., ,.iat,,,....v.�.oi. ,.,,„,/1,.,,,._+.._��7.,;�a/;mitatinn_clata.r�nfina chtml � n�2212��9 tmrtahon SlaYe Roofing Page 3 of 6 0�'�� appear as shadows, fiirthering the appearance of random �ickness. Although it is probably the least costly of the slat alternatives, this product relies on illusions. T��a Conc�ete or Clay Clay tiles have been used in roofing for hundreds of years. `t,t . �:. � � �; Concrete tiles, although not common, have a fairly long and #-:�� .�..`� �.�.>' �. successful history. These can be very thick and heavy, somet�mes heavier than the original slate. �Zzinforcement of some framing � rnay be necessary for their installation. 'The available colors a e�� somewhat limited and te�tures aren't quite as gaod as some �� , other products that imitate slate. � , ��m�o��t� P��stic/IZ�abl�� ,� 'These are made with thermoplastic resin, somefimes ground -k slate or fiberglass, and/or recycled rubber. The latter ingredie t�� , enables the manufacturers to jump on the "green" marketing �� pro�ression. These are available in many colors but haven't bee�i � around long enough for me to see how the colors (and the ove � produ�t� h�ld up tm weatlger and LTV. 'I'he shingles are made injecting the composite into molds, so the textures and edges� �`� clos�ly replicate natural slatea I'rn sure some �f the malds a� from the real thing. 'I'hese are becoming a very popular slate �� , alternative. So far, the only issue I've faund is some cupping an`�` curling up of corners. This might be due to improper storage or installation of the material. httn•N<:n:n:. n1Ahrn�c�vP1+ rnm/hnw_tn_aAvira/imitatinn_clatexnnFina chtml � n�z2�2�4 Ixnitation Slate Roofing Yage 4 02 6 p�� F�ber Ceme�t �� ,... e ear ies imi�a�ion of slate roofs were with -�e�f��t== �� '�'C�� <<�� that proved to be quite durable, but the colors didri t last. The thickness, te�ture, and dimensions didn't exacdy replicate natural slate either. About 2o years ago, there were many new fiber cement roofing products introduced but there were some major failures. Severe cracking, crazing, and discoloration showed up on several products, resulting in many warranty claims and class action lawsuits. Many of the manufacturers moved away from the fiber cement roofing and others have made changes to their product. The more recent fiber cement roofing materials haven't been around long enough for me to determine if the earlier problems have been completely eliminated. �ec�ation� Some folks looking into slate alternatives are quite shocked to find that some of the imitations are actually quite e�pensive. Not as expensive as natural slate but enough for them to seriously consider a cheaper roofing system. Life expectancy is another issue to cansider. These newer, manufactured products often tout a lengthy warranty. Read these "limited" warranties and you may likely find that advertising a fifty year warranty certainly doesn`t guarantee the raof will last �o years. If the roof fails, at say �€� years, read what the '-"-- - "------- ,.ut..._,,,..<,ew ,....., /1,...,._+.�_��l«:rPlimitafinn_slate-mnfinF.S�7tYllI 10�2Z�2�09 Imitation Slate Roofing rage � oi o U�� manufacturer will actually do for the claim. Most types of natural slate have a known life e�pectancy well beyond that of the average person. Some af the products available for imitating a slate roof might have a life e�pectancy beyond that of the average person's pet. About tlte Aut&or William Kibbel III is a home inspector and restoration consultant specializing in historic residential and commercial buildings. He ls ViCe presldent of E�'_�;�;iy n�v =}��"g�:; P�;�=2ia3�=a�', seTVing Southeastern Pennsylvania and Central New Jersey. - Bill welcomes questions for future columns. You may contact him at ��:=��_� �;��=,�s��-��,�,�i �`3��G iK�'.amY{��5, R.e�S.".i�'�w�'�F Storm Damage or Roof Repiacement Free Estrnates Cali For References ��o�ate�siiorc�et`�ng c�m �:�s�a� ��r��aa�:�e��s_�c�F� T�� ; 25 years of roofing in Twin Cities. Slate Te> Free residenfial & commerciai est. 75 year v r!in`,:e.o�ta�`.�E'Jfl5{I'1,-.,�Ch.:C;(t bfN�`t �SdC�I .. ,,. '- --�n_---.,...a.,:,.o�;.„;t�i:nn_clata_r�nfinu.shtml 10/22/2009 _ Slate Roof Centrai - Asbestos Roofs NAVIGA7E THIS SlTE USINC, THE 64R ABOVE OR: - I Asbestos Roofs How to Repair an Asbestos Roof Sources of Asbestos Roof Tiles Special¢ed roofin9 co�'adors w�71 repair as6estas roofs fot three reasons: 'i ) no or�e else win do it, 2) iheY are good roots and �n71 iast a Iwg time if maintain�. and 3) removat and r�cemenf of tt�e entire rani can iovo�ve ihe EPA and OSHA ASSESTOS ROOFS ARE NOT AN ENVtRONMEf3TAL HAZARD UNLESS THEY ARE BROKEN OR CRUMBLED AND THE DUST IS IMHALED• THAT IS WHY,'WHEN RENOVED`. TfiEY FALL UTiDERTtiE HAZARDOUSl�AATERIALS REGULATIONS.IFLEFT �N PLACE, THEY MAt� A GOOD ROOF. How lorg do asbestos roofs last? it is not u�reasonable to expect 1� years from a properlY maintain� asbestos roof. There is mom inFomiation about asbestos roofs in ttie Slaie ftoof aro�e. Page 1 of 3 �� Aae�rC,00gie Asbestos R�noval 9 rvices Read Reviews & Get Quotes From Asbestos Contradors. 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It is difficult to find asbestos replacement tiles that match the original roof in color shade, although there is a page on this site listing some sources of asbestos tiles. Note the three replacement tiles on the diamond asbestos roof above (they appear whiter than the original t�les). Asbestos is a brittle and fragile material. It cannot be walked on as the tiles will crack and these hairline cracks, which are hard to see, will leak. Asbestos tiles can be cut with a Slate Cutter, some of which, in fact, were originally manufactured to cut asbestos tiles. This tool will also punch holes in asbestos tiles - no small feat as they tend to crack otherwise. You can also put holes in asbestos tiles by using a small masonry drifi bit (3/16" fior example). You can work on asbestos roofs by using hook ladders. A ladder hook is inexpe�sive and works pretty well on asbestos roofs. Slate hooks work well for fastening replacement tiles in place. On diamond shaped tiles use iwo hooks, one at 4 o clock and one at 8 o clock (see below). When you use slate hooks you don't have to drill the tiles or caulk anything You can also use copper nails to nail the asbestos tiles back in pface after taking the roof apart (such as when you replace flashings). The last (top) row of tiles, however, will probably have to be installed with slate hooks. Here is an illustration showing how to use slate hooks to repair an asbestos roof. A routine chimney flashing job on an asbestos roof in Grove City, PA (below): Page 2 of 3 �� Slate Roof Bible The award-winning book! Slate Video Clips Instrudional videos Slate Roofing Tools America's best source! Slate Roof Links Find it here. Traditional Roofing Mag. Articles galore onhne� Y � � ��- Joseph Jenkins,lnc. Info rich hub site� Contractor Directory Find contractors now. Our Library Slate roofing books. SOURCES: New Slate http://www.jenkinsslate.com/photos_asbestos.htm 12/1/2009 Slate Roof Central - Asbestos Roofs Page 3 of 3 V� t�� Salvaged Slate Ceremic Roof Tile Asbestos Tiles ArchRectural Sheet Metal All matenal herem OO 1998-2009 Joseph Jenkms Incorpo�atetl, ali nghh reserved http://www jenkinsslate.com/photos_asbestos.htm 12/1/2009