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RESOLUTION
SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
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1 WHEREAS, Dave Roering, on or about October 10, 2007, made application to the Heritage Preservarion
2 Commission (hereinafter, the "HPC") in HPC File No. 07-171122 for a building permit to demolish an
3 existing non-historic garage and replace it with a new four-stall garage at property commonly known as
4 615-617 Holly Avenue within the Heritage Hill Historic Preservation District; and
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6 WHEREAS, a report dated November 6, 2007 was prepared by HPC staff which contained the historical
7 background of the subject site, stated the Heritage Hill Preservation District design review guidelines
8 applicable to the site, contained a description of the changes proposed on the site pursuant to the subject
9 permit application and contained a description of the on-going interior and exterior remodeling work to the
10 site's principal structure that was previously approved in February, 2007 by the HPC and recommended
11 approval of the said application subject to conditions; and
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13 WHEREAS, the said application was duly set on for a public hearing befare the HPC on November 15,
14 2007 where all interested parties were afforded an opportunity to be heard; and,
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16 WHEREAS, at the close of the public hearing and based upon all the facts, &les, testimony and the said
17 staff report proposing the following Findings and Staff Recommendation to approve the said application
18 subj ect to those conditions set forth in the Staff Recommendations, the building permit application was
19 approved by the HPC with conditions on a 7-1 vote as noted in the November 15, 2007 HPC meeting
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FINDINGS
1. The site is classified as non-contributing to the Historic Hill District.
2. Demolition. The removal of a non-historic garage will not have a negative impact to the
building or the historic district.
3. Massing and Heieht. The guidelines state that the massing should be compatible witli
the existing neighboring buildings. While a 4-stall garage is considered larger than typical
for residential housing, directly behind the property is a large commercial auto repair garage
and there are larger garages further down the alley to the East. The massing of the new
garage will fit within the context of neighboring buildings.
4. Rhvthxn and Directional Emphasis. The rhythin of the houses along the street-face will
not be disrupted by the new addition. The garage will be visible from Dale Street and there
is still an appropriate separation (rhythm) between the house and the new garage. The
setback of the gazage from the alley at 8 feet is slightly mare than typical, however, the
setbacks on this alley are varied and there will not be a negative impact.
5. Materials and Details. The lap siding proposed is more appropriate than the stucco
application on the house, which was added at a later point in time. The proposed six inch
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lap, however, is wider than traditionally used. The detailing shown on the plans meets the
general intent of detailing secondary structures, however, some elements like a frieze water
table and wide window and door trim needs to be clarified.
6. Building Elements. The pitch of the garage roof of 5:12 is consistent with the main
house roof, however, the guidelines state that "highly visible secondary structure roofs
should match the roof pitch of the main structure, and generally should have a rise-to run
rario of at least 9:12. The garage is highly visible but also matches the pitch of the main
house. Because of the buiidings visibility, the owner has proposed four dormers at the roof
to likely break-up the horizontal roof plane. The main house does not have any dormers and
typically secondary structures should be well detailed but should have a simple design. The
proposed windows have a vertical orientation with a 2:1 ratio of height to width which
complies with the guidelines.
7. Site. The garage is accessible from the rear and doors do not face the street, which
complies with the guidelines. The guidelines also state, "parking areas should not be
located in front yards. Residential parking spaces should be located in rear yards. All
parking spaces should be adequately screened from the street and sidewalks by
landscaping." The proposal does not comply with this requirement because screening was
not included nor the indication of the removal of the pazking in the front yards.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Based on the findings above, staff recommends approval of the proposal provided the following
conditions aze met:
1. Final materials and finishes aze to be reviewed and approved by staff. The cement lap
siding will have a smooth texture and be four to five inches wide instead of the proposed six
inches. The composite trim shall also have a smooth texture and be painted. Wide trim be
at the corners and around windows and doars. Final trim detailing shall be reviewed and
approved by staff.
2, Instead of four proposed dormers, the roof planes will be simplified by having one
central dormer at the alley elevation that is appropriate far the hipped roof shape. Plans
shall be submitted to staff for final review and approval.
3. A fence shall be installed around two-thirds of the off-street parking spaces and shall be
approved by staff.
4. The driveway and curb cuts from Holly and in the front yard will be removed witrrin 30
days from the final inspection date approving the garage.
5. Any revisions to the approved plans must be submitted to the HI'C and/or staff for
review. The HPC stamped approved plans must be kept on site during the construction
project.
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WHEREAS, on November 16, 2007, the HPC's decision to approve the buiiding permit application was
communicated to the applicant in a Letter of Decision, which shall also be incorporated herein by
reference, and in which the HPC's approval of the subject application subject to the conditions imposed by
the HPC is set forth; and
WHEREAS, on November 28, 2007 and pursuant to Legislative Code § 73.06(h), the applicant filed an
appeal from that part of the HPC's decision regarding condition number 4 which related exclusively to the
sub}ect parcel's driveway and curb cuts from Holly and requested a public hearing before the City Council
for the purpose of considering the HPC's decision; and
WHEREAS, on December 19, 2007, a public hearing was duly conducted before the City Council where
all interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard, and at the close of the public hearing, the City
Council, having heard the statements made, and having cansidered the applicaYion, the testimony, the
report of staff and the record, minutes and resolution of the HPC, does hereby;
RESOLVE, that the overall decision of the HPC approving the said application was without errar
including the majority of the conditions imposed on the application. However, the Council fiu-ther finds,
with respect to the applicanYs appeal regarding the APC's condition number 4, that the applicant has
demonstrated reversible error for the following reasons:
The Council finds that requiring the removal of the Holly curb cuts will not serve to protect
ar enhance the architectural aspect or historical character of the residential structure.
Further, it is plain that the subject aurb cuts have been on the property far quite some time.
Finally, the expense of removing the curb cuts places an excessive cost burden on this
applicant.
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114 AND, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Council adopts as its own the HPC's findings in this
115 matter as set forth above, provided that ttus set of findings are modified t� the extent necessary to eluninate
ll6 only that condition requiring the removal of the curb cut off of Holly far the reasons noted above by the
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119 BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the remaining HPC conditions of approval shall remain in full farce
120 and effect; and be it
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122 FINALLY RESOLVED, that the City Clerk shall mail a copy of this resolution to David Roering, the
123 Heritage Preservation Commission, the Deparhnent of Safety and Inspections and the Zoning
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Memorializing City Council's December 19, 2007, mofion to adopt as its own the Heritage Preservation Commission's findings in
this matter with the exception of condition nutnbez four (4) of the appeal of Dave Roeriug to obtain a building permit to demolish an
existing non-historic garage for the properiy commonly lmown as 615-617 Holly Avenue within the Heritage Hill Histroic
Preservation Dislrict.
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Initiating Problem, Issues, Oppnrtunity (Who, What, When, Where, Why):
The Council is required pnrsnant to the City's Charter to ha:ve its actions reduced to writing either in the form of a resolution or
ordinance dependenf upon the nature of the matter befote it, The decision of Council in this matter required a resolukon in order to
comply with the Charter. Approving the attached resolution fiilfills ffie Councll's duty under the Charter.
Advantages If Approved:
None
Disadvan�ges lfApproved:
Failure to approve the resolution violates the City's Charter Reqnirement
Oisadvantages If Not Approved:
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January 24, 2008 3:17 PM Page 1
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Christopher B. Coleman, Mayor
December 3, 2007
Ms. Mary Erickson
City Council Research OfFice
Room 310 City Hal1
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear Ms. Erickson:
�EPARTMENT OF SAFETY AND INSPEC'CIONS
Bob Kessler, Dfrector q
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COMMERCEBUILDING Telephone: b51-266-9090
S Fourth Street East, Surte 200 Facsimrle � 6�7-2bb-9724
St Pau1, M+nnesota 35701-1024 Web. wiv�v.l+ep us
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for
Wednesday, December 19, 2007 for the following heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s):
File Number:
David Roering, owner
08-014
Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission
decision conditionally appxoving construction of a
four-stall garage provided two front yard curb cuts
and driveways be removed.
Location:
Staff
Recommendation:
Commission:
615-617 Aolly Avenue, Hill Historic Aistrict
Conditional Approval
Condifional Approval (staffrec.) (7 to ])
I have confirmed this date with the office of Cou�cil Member Debbie Montgomery. My
understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City
Council at your earliest convenience and that yQU wi11 pub(ish notice of the hearing in the
Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please cail me at 266-9079 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Amy Spong
Historic Preservation Specialis
CC: Council Member Debbie Montgomery
CAO, Peter Waruer
Appellant, David Roering and Brian Alton, Attorney for Appellant
File
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NOTICE OR PUBLiC $EARING
'Rie 'Saurt Pa� ul�ty Council wtII con-
d�ct a publfc heazing on Weduesday, De-
cember 19. 2007 at 5:30 p.m. in the City
Conncil Chambers, Third Floor, Qity
Hall/Cowihouse. 15 West I{ellogg Boule-
vard. SL Paul, MN, to cronsida the aPP�
of Davtd Roering, own¢, �to a decision ot
the Reritage Preservation Commission
comlitlonaIly appmv'uig � construction of a
four-staII gaiage provided two fi yard
curb cuts and driveways �be remwed at
615-fi2t Hoity Avenue, Hiil� Historic Dls-
tricE. {FIIe No. OS-014]
Dated: Deeember 6, 2007
MARY ERICKSON
Assistant City Council Secretary
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NOTICE OF APPEAL
Re: 615-617 Holiy Avenue
HPG File No. 08-d14
Bob Kessler
Director
Department of Safety and Inspections
City of Saint Paul
Commerce Buifding
8 Fourth Street East, Suite 20Q
Saint Paul, MN 55101-1024
PLEASE'TAKE NOTICE that David Roering (Appeilant), the owner of the property located
at 615-617 Holfy Avenue, Saint Pau1, Ramsey County, Minnesota, hereby appeals to the
City Councif the decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission to conditionaliy
approve the appiication for a building permit to demolish an existing garage and construct
a new garage.
The Appetlant requests that the permit application be approved without the condition that
the driveways and curb-cuts, from Hoily and in the front yard, be removed within thirty (30)
days from the finai inspection date approving the garage.
The Appellant proposes to build a new garage, eliminating a curb-cut on Dal� Street, and
not disturb curb-cuts and driveways that have existed at the property for many years.
The grounds for this Appea( are that: - -
A. The requirement to remove the driveways and curb-cuts would cause an
unnecessary financial burden.
B. Removing the driveways and curb-cuts would deprive the owner of the reasonable
use of the property.
C. The owner wishes to make sure that there is adequate off-street parking for
residents in the building.
D. The Zoning Gode permits front andlor side yard parking.
E. The new garage to be constructed meets the principles for new construction in
Section 74.65 of the City Code and the gensral principles in Section 74.65(f}(3)b.
does not apply to the pre-existing driveways and curb-cuta _-
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F. Approval of the demolition and construction of the new garage is consistent wifh the
public poficy and purposes of the preservation ordinance. Leaving the driveways
and curb-cuts on Holly is not inconsistent with these policies and purposes.
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Attorney No. 149494
McCfayAfton PLLP
' 951 Grand Avenue
St. Paul, Minnesota 55105
651-290-0301
ATTORNEY FOR APPELLANT
DEPARTMEN7 OF SAFE7Y ANp INSPECI'IONS
Bo6 Kesster, Director /i d �Gf�
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Christopher B. Coteman, Ma�ar
COMMERCE BIJII.DING Telephme: 651-266-909D
8 Fourth Street E., Suite 2D0 Facsimile: b57-266-912A
Saint PauV, Minnesota 5 5 10 1-102A \Yeb: �uz�lv.cisryaui.mn.us/i�ep
FROM: Amy Spong, HPC staff
RE: HPC appeal for 615-617 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District
DATE: December 11. 2007
MEMORANDUM
TO: City Council Members
CC: Peter Warner, CAO
Bob Kessler, DSI
The following attachments highlight the events that have taken place and relate to the
HPC review of the permit application to construct a four-stall garage and make site
improvements to the address listed:
Page 1
Notice to City Council to schedule appeal.
Pages Z to 4
Grounds for an appeal by appellant Dave Roering, owner.
Pages 5 to 9
The stafF report recommending a conditional approval to allow for a four-stall garage
provided the iwo front yard curb cuts and parking spaces be removed once the garage is
constructed.
Pages 10 to 31
7he application with attachments.
Pages 32 to 36
Summary minutes from the November 15 public hearing and written public testimony.
Pages 37 to 38
The fiinal decision fetter conditionally approving the new garage.
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DEPARP��fEYi' OF SAFETY AND [NSPECiTO�S
Bob Kessler. Direcfor
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Chr•istop)rer B, Coleir:an, .ttm�or•
December 3. 2007
Ms. Mary Erickson
City Council Research Offce
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear Ms. Erickson:
CO.l1ifERCEBt,7LDl.l'G Telephone; 6�1-266-9090
8 Four(h Sheet East, Snite ?00 Facsimi(e: 651-266-9719
StPauI,1?innesota5J70L702� IVeb� u�inr.(iep.us
I would like to confirm tliat a public hearing before ihe City Council is scheduted for
Wednesday, December 19, 2007 for the following herita�e preservation case:
Appetlant(s):
File Number:
David Roering, owner
08-014
Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission
decision conditionally approving construction of a
fouo-stall garage provided two front yard curb cuts
and driveways be removed.
Location:
Staff
Recommendation;
Commission_
615-617 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District
Conditional Approval
Conditional Approval (staffrec.) (7 to 1)
I fiave confirmed tliis date with the office of Council Member Debbie Montgomery. My
understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City
Council at your earliest convenience and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the
Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9079 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Amy Spong�'�
Historic Preservation Speciali
CC: Council Member Debbie Montgomery
CAO, Peter Warner
Appel}ant, David Roering and Brian Alton, Attorney for Appellant
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November 28, 2007
Bob Kessler
Director, Department of Safety and Inspections
City of Saint Paul
Commerce Building
8 Fourth Street East, Suite 20o
Samt rau1, ivii� 35�i01-1u24
Re: 615-617 Ho11y Avenue
HPC File No. 08-014
Dear Mr. Kessler:
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951 GRAND AVENUE
Sf PAUL, MN 55105
FAX 651-Z4a2502
651-Z90-0301
Enclosed are two {2) copies of the Appeal in the above referenced matter. Please
� transmit one copy of the Notice of Appeal to the City Council and one copy to the
Heritage Preservation Commission.
Very truly yours,
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Brian D. Alton
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Christine Barr (HPC)
David Roering
www.mcdayalton.com
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NOTICE OF APPEAL
Re: 615-617 HoAy Avenue
HPC Fiie No. 08-014
Bob Kessler
Director
Deparfinent of Safefy and Inspections
City of Saint Paul
Commerce Building
8 Fourth Street East, Suite 200
Saint Paul, MN 55101-1024
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that David Roering (Appellant), the owner of the property located
at 615-617 Hoily Avenue, Sainf Paul, Ramsey County, Minnesota, hereby appeals to the
City Council the decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission to conditionally
approve the application for a building permit to demolish an existing garage and construct
a new garage.
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The Appellant requests that the permit application be approved without the condition that
the driveways and curb-cuts, from Holly and in the front yard, be removed within thirty {30)
days from the final inspecfion date approving fhe garage. �
The Appellant proposes to build a new garage, efiminating e curb-cut on Dale Street, a�d
not disturb curb-cuts and driveways that have existed at the property for many years.
The grounds for this Appeal are that:
A. The requirement to remove the driveways and curb-cufs would cause an
unnecessary financial burden.
B. Removing the driveways and curb-cufs would deprive the owner of the reasonabie
use of the property.
C. The owner wishes to make sure that there is adequate off-street parking for
residenfs in the building.
D. The Zoning Code permits front andlor side yard parking.
E. The new garage to be constructed meets the principles for new construction in
Section 74.65 of the City Code and the general principles in Section 74.65(fl(3)b.
does not apply to the pre-existing driveways and curb-cuts.
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� F. Approvai of the demolition and construction of the new garage is consistenf with the
public policy a�d purposes of the preservation ordinance. Leaving the driveways
and curb-cuts on Holiy is not inconsistent with these policies and purposes.
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Date nan . Alton
Attorney No. 149494
McClayA{ton PLLP
951 Grand Avenue
St. Paul, Minnesota 55105
651-290-0301
ATTORNEY FOR APPELLANT
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL �
HERITAGE PRESERVATION CONtMISSION STAFF REPORT
FILE NAME: 615-617 Holly Avenue
DATE OF APPLTCATION: October 29, 20Q7
APPLICANT: Dave Roering
OWNER: same
DATE OF PUBLIC HEARING: November 15, 2007
HPC SITE/DISTRICT: Hill Historic District
CATEGORY; Non-contributing
CLASSIFICATION: Building Permit
STAFF INVESTTGATION AND REPORT: Amy Spong
DATE: November 6, 2007
A_ SITE DESCRIPTION:
The property at 615-617 Holly Avenue is a two-story, stuccoed duplex with a hipped roof.
According to the inventory form, this modifed Italianate-vemacular style building was consiructed
in 1900 and has been modified extensively with virtually no historic detaii remauung. The chiimieys
on the east and west elevarions have been removed. An enclosed three-bayed, two-story front porch
that extends the fu111ength of the house was added that covers the original facade of the house. The
limestone foundation is still visible except for portions on the north and east sides. The property is
considered non-contributing to the Hill Historic District.
There is currently a iwo car garage at the rear of the properry with a driveway and curb-cut off of �
Da1e Street. There are two curb-cuts on Holly Avenue for the driveways on the east and west sides
of fihe building. The east driveway is concrete and the west driveway is asphalt. Both driveways aze
direcfly up to the foundation.
B. PROPOSED CHANGES:
The applicant is proposing to raze the non-historic garage and construct a four-stall gazage at the alley.
The plans do not address the existing curb cuts and pazking at the front of the house. The proposed
materials are 3-tab shingles for the roof, cement board !ap siding, rough face concrete block at base and
composite trim. The window and door specifications were not indicated on the plans. The applicant is
also proposing to add four dormers, one on the east and west elevations each and two on the alley (north)
elevation. The garage is proposed to be set back 8 feet from the alley, 3 feet from the side properly line
and 20 feet from Dale Street with a parking slab.
C. BACKGROTTND:
The main house is currently under-going interior and e�cterior remodeling. This work was reviewed
and conditionally approved by the HPC in February, 2Q07. There were three conditions placed on
tfie HPC approval that addressed pazking, driveways and screening. Those are ouflined in a letter
dated February 27, 2Q07 and are as follows:
1. The applicanUowner work with staff to create a proposal for relocating all pazking to the
rear yard.
2. A plan for screening the pazking be submitted to staff for review and approval. -
3. The owner contact public warks to have the curb-cut on Dale Street removed.
4, Any changes pr revisions to the approved plans must be submitted to the HPC andlor
staff for review.
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� 5. The HPC stamped approved construcrion level plans remain on site for the duration of the
project.
The current application is a proposal to relocate the required parking to the reaz of the yard 6ut the
plans do not indicate the driveways and curb cuts off of Holly will be removed. The owner is
required to provide 6 pazking spaces and the new gazage wi11 hold 4 spaces and there will be 2
surface spaces next to the new gazage at the reaz. Screening the new off-street parking was also not
indicated on this application.
D. GUIDELINE CITATIONS:
Hill Historic DistrictDesipn Review Guidelines
Resioration and Rehabilitation
Generat Principles:
1. Every reasonable effort sha11 be nzade to provide a compatible use far a property which requires
minimal alteration of the building, structure, or site and its e�rvironment, or ta use a property for its
originally iniended purpase.
2. The distinguishing original gualities or character of a building, structure, or site and its environment
shall not be destroyed. The removal or alteration of any historic material or distinctive architectural
features should bz avoided when possible.
3. Alt buildings, structures, and sites shalt be recognized as products of their own time. Alterations that
have no historical basis and which seek to create an earlier appearance shall be discouraged
4. Changes which may have taken place in the course of time are evddence of rhe histovy and development
of a building, structure, or site and its environment. Theses changes may have acquired significance in
� their own right, and this signiftcance shall be recognized and respected.
5. Distinctive stytistic features or examples of skilted craftsmanship which characterize a building,
structure, or site shall be treated with sensitivity.
6. Deteriorated architectura(features shal! be repaired rather than replaced, whenever possible. In the
event replacement is necessary, the new material should match the material being replaced in
composition, design, color, texture, and other visual qualities. Repair or replacement of missing
architecturad features should be based on accurate duplications offeatures, substantiated by historic,
physical, or pictorial evidence rather than on conjectural designs or the availability ofdifferent
architectural elements from other buildings or structures.
7. The surface cleaning of structures shall be undertaken with the gentlest means possible. Sandblasting
and other cleaning methods that x�ill damage the historic building materials shaZl not be undertaken..
8. Every reasonable effort shatl be made to pr-otect and preserve archaeological resources affected by, or
adjacent to any project.
9. Contemporary design for alterations and additions ro existfng properties shall not be discouraged when
such alterations and additions do not destroy signifzcant historical, architectural or cudtural materfal,
and such design is compatible with the size, scale, color, material, and character of the property,
neighborhood, or ertviranment.
10. Wherever possible, new additians or alterations to structures shall be done in such a manner that if
such alterations were to be removed in the fufure, the essential form and integrity of the structure would
be unimpaired.
New Construction
II. General Principles:
The basic principle for new consri-uction in the Historic Hill District is to maintain the disriict's scale and
� guality ofdesign. The Historic Hill District is architectztrally diverse within an overall pattern ofha»nony and
continuity. These guidelines for new consiruction focus on general rather than specific design elements in
order to encourage architectural innovation and quality design while maintaining the harnsony and continuity
ofthe district. New canstruction should be compatible with the size, scale, massing, height, rhythm, setback,
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color, neaterial, bzrilding elements, site design, and character of surrounding structures and the area.
12. Massin� and Hei�ht: �
New construciion should ronform to the massing volume, height and scale of exisfing adjacerzt shzrctures.
Typical residential stnectures in the Historic Hidl District are 25 to 40 feet high. The height of new
construction should be no lower than the average height ofa11 buildings on both blockfaces; measrerements
should be made from street level to the highestpoint ofthe roofs. (This guideline does notsupersede the Ciry's
Zoning Code height Zimitations.)
13. Itkythm and Directional Enzphasis:
The existence ofuniform narrow Zots in the Historic HiC1 naturallysets up a strongrhythm ofbuilclings to open
space. Historically any structure builz on more than one Zot used vertical facade elements to maintain and vary
the overall rhythm of the street rather than interrupting the rhythm with a long monotonous facade. The
direciional expression of new canstruction should relate to rhat of existing adjacent structures.
14. Materials and Detafils:
T/ariety in the use ofarchitectural materials and details adds to the intimacy and visual delight ofthe district.
But there is also an overall thread of continuity provided by the range of materials commonly used by turn-of-
the-century builders and by the way these materials were ¢rsed. This thread ofcontinuity is threatened by the
introduction of new indz�strial nxaterials and the aggressive exposure of earLier materials such as concrete
block, metal framing, and glass. The purpose of this section is to encourage the proper use of appropriaie
nsaterials and details.
The materials and details of new construction should relate to the materials and details of existing nearby
buiZdings.
I5. BuildinQ Elements: �
Individual elements of a building should be integrated inta its composition for a balanced and complete
design. These elemenzs for new construction should compliment existing adjacent structures as well.
Roofs.
There is a great variety of raof zreamaent in the Hisioric Hlll District, but gable and hip roofs are most
common. The skyline or profile of new construction should reZate to the predominant roof shape of existing
adjacent buildings.
Most houses in the Historic Hill District have a roofpitch of behveen 9:12 and 12:12 (rise-to-run ratia).
Highly visible secondary structure roofs should match the roaf pitch of the main structure, and generally
should have a rise-to-run ratio of at least 9.• 12. A roofpitch of at Ieast 8:12 should be used if it is somewhat
visible from the street, and a 6:12 pitch may be acceptable in some cases for structures which are not visible
from the street.
Roofhardware such as skyZights, vents, and metal pipe chimneys should not be placed on the front roofplane.
Windows and Doors.
The proportion, size, rhythm and detailing of windows and doors in new construction should be compatible
with that of existrng adjacent buildings. Most windows on the Hill have a vertical orientation, with a
proportion of beriveen 2:1 and 3:1 (height to width) common. Individual windows can sometimes be square or
horizontal if the rest of the building co�zveys the appropriate directional emphasis. Facade openings of the
same generat size as those in adjacent buildings are encouraged.
Wooden double-hungwindows are traditianal in the Historic Hil1 Districf and should be the firstchoice when �
sedecting new windows. Paired casement windows, although not hfstoricaZZy common, will often prove
acceptable because oftheir verticai orientation. Sliding windows, awning windows, and horizontally oriented
munti»s are not common in the district and are generally unacceptable. Verrical muntins and munrin grids
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• �nay be acceptable tivhzn co�npatible with the period and styZe ofthe building. ,4lidingglass doors should not
be used where they wauld be visible from the str^eet.
16. Site
Setback.
New buildings should be sited at a distance not more than �% out-of-Zine from the setbackofexistingadjacent
buiZdings. Setbacks greater rhan those ofadjacent buiidings nzay be allowed in sorne cases. Reducedsetbacks
may be acceptable at corners. This happens quite often in the Hisforic Hitl area and can lend delightful
variation to the street.
Garages and Parking.
If an alley is adjacent to the dwelling, any new garage should be located off the altey. Where alteys do not
exist, garages, facing the st�-eet or driveway curb cuts may be acceptable. Garage doors should not face the
street. Ifthis is found necessary, single garage doors should be used to avoid the horiaontal orientation ofhvo-
car garage doors.
Parking spaces should not be Located in front yards. Residential parking spaces should be located in rear
yards. All parking spaces should be adeguately screened from the sn•eet and sidewalk by landscaping.
I8. Demolitzon
When revfewing proposals for demolttfon of structures within the dish^ict, the Heritage Preservation
Commission refers to Section 73.06 (i)(2) of the Saint Paul Legdslative Code which states the following:
In the case of the proposed demolition of a building, prior to approval of said deinolition, the commission
. shall make writtenfindings on the following: the archttectural and histor^ical rrterit ofthe building, the efj"ect of
the demolition on surrounding buildings, the effect ofany proposed new construction on the remainder ofthe
building (in case ofpartial demolition) and on surrounding buildings, and the economic value or usefxtlness of
the building as it now exists or if altered or modified in conzparison with the value or usefulness of any
proposed structures desdgnated to replace the present building or buitdings.
E. FINDINGS:
I. The site is classiSed as Non-Contributing to the Hill Historic Distric�
2. Demotitlon. The removal of the non-historic garage will not have a negative impact to the building ar
the historic district.
3. Massing and Height. The guidelines state that the massing should be compatible with the existing
neighboring buildings. While a four-stall garage is considered larger than typical for residential
housing, directly behind the property is a large commercial auto repair garage and there are larger
garages further down the alley to the east. The massing ofthe new garage will fit within the contest of
neighboring buildings.
4. Rhythm and Directional Emphasis. The rhythm of the houses along the street-face will not be
disrupted by the new addition. The garage will be visible from Dale Street and there is still an
appropriate separation (rhythm) between the house and the new garage.
The setback of the gazage from the alley at 8 feet is slightly more than typical, however, the setbacks
on this alley are varied and there will not be a negative impact. '
5. Materials and Details. The lap siding proposed is mare appropriate than the stucco application on
the house which was added at a later point in time, The proposed 6 inch lap, however, is wider
than traditionally used. The detailing shawn on the plans meets the general intent of detailing
secondary structures, however, some elements like a frieze, water table and wide window and
door trim need to be clazified.
6. Building Elements. The pitch of the gazage roof of 5:12 is consistent with the main house roof,
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however, the guidelines state that highly visible secondary structure roofs should match the roof �
pitch of tke main structure, and generally should have a rise-ta-run ratio of at least 9:12. The
gazage is bighiy visible but also matches the pitch of the main house. ____
Because of the building's visibility, the owner has proposed four dormers at the roof to likely
break-up the horizontal roof pIane. The main house does not have any dormers and typicaIly
secondary structures shoutd be well detailed but should kave a simple design.
The proposed windows have a vartical orientafion with a 2:1 ratio of height to width which
complies with the guidelines.
,Site. The gazage is accessible from the rear and doors do not face the street which compiies with the
guidelines. The gaidelines also staxe, parking spaces should not be Iocaled in front yards.
Residential parking spaces should be located in rear yards. flll parking spaces should be
adequately screenedfrom the street and sidewalk by landscaping. The proposal does not compiy
with this requirement because screening was not included nor the indication of the removal of the
parkitig in the front yards.
F. STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Based on the fmdings above, staff recommends approval of the proposal provided the following
conditions are met:
1. Finai maferials and finishes aze to 6e reviewed and approved by staff. The cement lap siding
will have a smooth texture and be 4 to 5 inches wide instead of the proposed 6 inches. The
composite trim shall also have a smooth texture and be painted. Wide trim be at the corners �
and around windows and doors. Final trim detailing shall be reviewed and approved by staff.
2. Instead ofthe four proposed dormers, the roofplanes will be simplified by having one central
dormer at the alley elevation that is appropriate for the hipped roof shape. Plans shall be
submitted to staff for final review and approval.
3. A fence shall be installed azound two sides of the off-street pazking spaces and shall be
approved by staff.
4. The driveways and curb-cuts from Holly and in the front yard wiil be removed wifhin 30 days
from the fina! inspection date approving the gazage.
4. Any revisions to the approved plans must be submitted to the HPC and/or staff for review.
5. The HPC stamped approved plans must be kept on site during the construcfion project.
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CITY OF ST PAUL GENERAL BUILDING PERNfIT APPLICATION
Department of Safety and Inspections Q$ ��
8 Fourth Street East, Suite 290 -� Visit our Web Site at www.sfiaul.govldsi
St Paul, Minnesota 5510'I-'IQ24 �, -
. Stttet \ame St .Ace. Blcd Em, \ 5 E �U Suite; Apt $uildina Name Date
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(Inclu zContactPerson) (Permit��illbemailedtotheCantracrorsAddress) Phone �
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Select the Type of Work Below. # of Exisring Dwelling Units ►
Select the Twe of IIse. ►
New Stntcture Addi6on For Miaed CommeiciaU � ResidenUal Final # of Dwelling Units >
❑ ❑ Residential buildings # of Dwelling Units Worked On ► _ _
enter informafion for both
the Residenrial and tha $ /� C � C'
Commercial Use. Cammercia! Esfimated Va1ue of Commercial Work 6> �/
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Estimated Start Date ►
❑ ❑ Estimated Total Value of Project ► �
Estimated Finish Date ►
Description af Project:
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Width
Length
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Lot Width
Existing Primary Use
Proposed Primary Use
For Office Use
ofUse? Yes / No
Occupancy Group
Construction Type
PLAN REVIEW REMARKS
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Structure Dionensions (In Feet)
Heaght Total Square Feet Basement
(include basement)
"—� Yes No
Set Backs fron
Front Back
Reviewed By: � Date:
ertifies that ffi1 inforsation is correct and that all pertinen4 sCa[e regulations and
ices will be comptied with in perfomvng the work forwhich this permit is issued.
Is a Fire Suppression System Available?
# of Stories �i.e. - Sprinklers)
Yes ❑ No ❑
5ide 1
Warning Folder #
Vacant B1dg. Folder #
❑ American Egpress ❑ Dascover ❑ MasterCard [7 Visa
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SUMMARY OF FEES
Building Permit Fee $
Plan Check Fee �
State Surchazge $
SAC $
Park Dedication Fee
Total Permit Fee
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DEPARTyENTOFSAFETYANDI\SPECTIONS
Bob Kessleq Direc[or
CI� �F' S'I�INT Pf��. - CO�LIMERCEBUILDING Telepfione: 6SI-?66-9090
ChristopherB.Coleman,Mayor SFaunhStreetEast,Suite200 Facsimile: 6i1-266-9129
St Pav{ Minnesota JSIO!-f 024 IV2S: lSM1NY.SIpQllI.gOA�ASI
Building Permit Affidavit for the Owner of Residential Real Estate'
I, the undersigned, certify that I own the residential reai estate for which I am applying for a
buildang permit, located at_
Location}
I understand that the State of Minnesota requires all residential building contractors, remodelers
and roofers to obtain a state license for work performed on residential real estate (as defined by
Minnesota Statute 326.$3, subd.l7) wzless they qualify for a specific exemption from licensing
requirements. I hereby claim to be exempt from state licensing requirements because I am not
bailding or impmving this property for purposes of resale.
I aclmowIedge that I may be hiring independent contractors Yo perform certain aspects of the
construction or improvement of this p�+aperty and I understand that some of these conhactors may
require a ticense. I understand that unlicensed residential contracting, remodeling, andlor roofmg
activity is a misdemeanor under Minnesota Statute 326.92, subd.l, and that I would forfeit my
right to reimbursement from the Contractors' Recovery Fund in the event that any contzactor I hire
is unlicensed.
I also acIrnowledge thaY as the contractor for this project, I am personally responsible for any
violation of the state building code or other applicable law or ordinance resulting from work
performed an this properry.
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(SignamreofPrope wner)
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To determine if a contractor is required to be license@, or to vezify the licensing statvs of an
individual contractor, please contact the following:
for buiIding contractor ................... MN Commerce Dept., Enforcement Div., (651) 284-5065
for elech contractor ................. MN State Board o£EIectricity, (651) 284-5064
for plumbing contractor ...............City of St. Paul, Dept. of Safety and Inspections, (651} 266-9090
for mechanical cantractor ........... City of St. Paul, Dept. of Safety and Inspections, (651} 266-9090
''Residential real estate" means a new or existing buildiag constructed for habitation by one to four families, and
includes detacfied gacages. (Minnesoha Statute 326.83, subd.l7}
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Departme»t ofSafery and Inspecrrons
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o Saint Pazr1, MIV SSIOI-102�
��� Phone: (6�I)266-9078
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION
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This application must be completed in addition to the appropriate ciry permit application if the affected
property is an individually designated landmark or located within an historic district. For applications that
must be reviewed by the Heritage Pteservation Commission refer to the HPC Meeting schedule for meeting
dates and deadlines.
1. CATEGORY
Please check the category that best describes the proposed work
� RepairlRehabilitation ❑ Sign/Awning 'e3Crew ConstructionlAddition!
❑ Moving ❑ Fence(Retaining Wall Alteration
.�emolition ❑ Other ❑ Pre-Application Review Only
2. PROJECT ADDRESS
. Street and number:
3. APPLICANT INFORMATION
Name of contact person:
Company:
Zip Code: �y� �_1 f` �
Street and number: �i ����,� �! �
City: a� �_ d� State: _�} Zip Code: .S�/G?
Phone number: (.� -.��j�-rJl�. = �� S"� e-maiL• �r �� � i2O�, , � �� ��dr� : f��'(
4. PROPERTY OWNER(S) INTORMATYON (If different from applicant)
Name:
Street and number:
, City:
Phone number. t
State:
e-mail:
Zip Code:
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5. PROJECT ARCEiITECT (If appticable)
Contact person:
Company:
Street and number:
Ciry: State:
Phone number: (__� e-maii:
G. P$OJECT DESCRIPTION
Zip Code:
Completely describe AI.L ea�terior changes being proposed for the property. Include
changes to architectnrul detaz►s such as windows, doors, siding, railings, steps, trem, roof,
foundation or porches. Attach spec�cations for doors, windows, ligfiting and ot$er
features, if appticable, inctuding wlor and materiat samples.
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,4nad: addirional sheets if necessary
7. ATTACH2I�NTS
Refer to the Design Review Process sheet for required informafion or attachments,
**INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS WILL BE RETURNED**
ARE THE NECESSARY ATTACHNIEIV,TS AND IRTF+ORMATION INCLUDED?
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Wili any federal money be used in this project?
Are you applying for the znvestment Tas Credits?
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I, the undersigned, understand that the Desi� Review Application is limited to the aforementioned work to
the affected properry. I fiuther understand that any additional exterior work to be done under my
o��mership must be submitted by applicarion to the St. Pau] Herita�e Preservation Commission. Any
unauthorized work will be requged to be removed.
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ContributingJNon-contributingfPivotaUSupportivel:
Type of work: Minor oderate/Maj r
FILE NO. � °O�
Requires staff revi�w
Supporting data: YES NO
Complete application: YES NO
The following condition(s) must be
met in order for application to conform
to preservation program:
It has been determined tLat the
work to be performed pursuant to
the application does not adversely
affectthe program For preservation
and architectural control of the
heritage preservation district or site
(Ch93A6).
HPC staff approval
Date
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Submi� d:
t� 3 Sets of Plans
❑ 1 Set of Plans reduced to 8%z"
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❑ City Permit Applicarion
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Christopher 8. Coleman, 1layor
November 9, 2007
Dave Roering
90 Dale Street
Saint Paul, MN 55102
CO.KtlERCEBG`ILDI.\'G Telephone: 6�1-266-9090
8 Fourth Street £ast, S¢�ite 200 Facsimrle: 6J1-266-91?1
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Re: 615-617 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District
November 15, 2007 - HPC Permit Review, Agenda Item IV.A.
HPC File #08-014
Dear Mr. Roering:
Enclosed is the agenda for the upcoming Heritage Preservation Commission meeting at which
your permit appiication for work in one of Saint Paul's historic districts or sites will be
considered. Also enclosed is a copy of the staff report that will be presented during the
meeting. Either you or your representative must plan to attend the meeting to discuss your
project and/or answer any questions commission members may have. Absence of such
representation may impede approval of the application.
Please note there is an Elmo video machine available in the meeting room which will project
any type of image — photographs, drawings, slides, etc. — onto screens azound the room, if you
should wish to use it. Please call staff ahead of time if you would like a laptop connection for
presentations.
Please contact staff at 651.266.9078 with any questions you may have.
Sincerely,
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Christine Barr
Historic Preservation Planner
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OFFICE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIONS AND
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Bob Kessfer, Direcmr
CITY OF SA1NT PAUL
Christopher B. Colenean, ,L�ayar
CO:Lf.NERCEBUlLD1.1G Zetephone: 6�1-266-9090
8 Four�h Sbeet Eas; Suite Z00 Facsimile: 6i7-266-9124
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February 22, 2007 - HPC Permit Review V
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Deaz Mr. Eckardt"
As you know, the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) considered at its February 22, 2007
meeting your application to alter the front and rear entrances and porches, add a side
porch and entry, and alter window openings at the property listed above. The HPC voted 7
to 0 to approve your application. This decision was based on the discussion at the public
hearing, public testimony and findings by the HPC staff.
The app2ication will be appmved provided the following condition(s) be met:
1. The roof pitches on the front and side porches be lowered from 5/12 to 4/12.
2. The applicant shall work with staff to finalize the guardrail and handrail designs.
3. The four, two-over-one, double-hung windows proposed on the west elevation be
changed to a 2:1 or 3:1 (height to width) proportion to be consistent with the existing
tall double-hung windows on the building.
4. The fence shall be removed from the proposal.
5. Any stucco repairs and patching shall match the existing stucco in composition,
texture and color as close as possible,
6. Tfie applicant/owner work with staff to create a proposai for reIocating aII pazking to
the reaz yazd.
7. A plan for screening the pazking be submitted to staff for review and approval.
8. The owner contact nublic works to have th curb-cut on Dale Street removed.
or revisions to the approved plans must be submitted to the HPC and/or
stafFfor review.
I0. The HPC stamped approved construcrion level plans remain on site for the durarion of
the project.
You or any aggrieved pariy has the right to appeal the Heritage Preservation Commission's
decision to the Saint Paul City Council under Chapter 73 of the Saint Paul Legislafive Code.
Such an appeal must be filed within 14 days of the date of the HPC's order and decision.
Chapter 73 states:
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• Q2) .4ppeal to city counciL The permit applicant or mry parry ago •iered by the decision of rhe
heritage presenation conamission shal7, witFzir: fow•tee�r (1�) days of t72e date of tlae her•itage
preseJValiot: connnission's order atrd decision, hm�e a right to appeal such order m:d
decision to the ciry com�cil. 7?�e appeal sJ�all be deer�zed peafected upon receipt by tlae
division of pZmniing [LIEP] of hvo (2) copies of a raotice oJappeal a�zd statemerat setting forth
the grounnds for the appeal. 7Tie division of plczru�ing [LIEP] sha11 transnrit or�e copy oj the
notice of appeal at�d statement to the city cour�cil and one copy to d�e heritage preservation
cammissian. The con:rnission, in a:ry written order denying a permit application, shall advise
the applicant of the right to appea[ to the city council ar:d include this paragrapli in atl sach
orders.
Please note, an HPC approval or condirional approval does not obviate the need for meeting
applicable building and zoning code reqnirements, nor is it a permit to allow for work to
commence, If revisions to the approved plans aze made, be aware lhat addiTiona] HPC and/or
staff review will be required.
Please feel free to call me at 651-266-9067 if you have any questions. Our records indicated
that a building permit application has not been submitted. This proposal will be on hold untii
the buiiding permit application is submitted and the above conditions have been met.
Sincerely,
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Christine Bazz
Planner, Historic Preservation
cc: Greg Johnson, building inspector
John Hazdwick, LIEP
David Roering, owner
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MIlV[.JTES OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATfON CONIMISSION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA �
Lower Level — Room 40, City Hall/Court House, 15 West_Kellogg Boulevard
November 15, 2007
Present: Caroi Cazey, Richard Faricy, Pat Tgo, Carole Kralicek, Paul Larson, 7ohn Mamiing, Lee
Meyer, Mark Shephexd Thomas, Diane Trout-Oertel, Shari Taylor Wilsey
Ahsent: Susan Bartlett Foote (excused), April Haas {excused)
Staff Present: Christine Barr, Amy Spong
CALL TO ORDER: 5:07 PM by John Mauning (Acting Chaar)
1. APPROVAL OF THE AGENAA: Approved (Wilsey/Igo)
2. CONFLICT OF INTEREST: No conf7icts of interest were noted.
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A. 350 Maple Street, Aayton's Bluff Historic District, by owner, Aaron Bates, for a
building permit to construct a second story addition and deck. Work commenced without a
building permit or HPC review. File #08-013
Staff read the report recommending denial. Aazon Bates, owner/applicant, was present to answer
questions. There was discussion abont the windows that had been purchased and installed without a •
permit. Larson stated there was not enough infortnafion about the windows to apply the guidelines
as specs were not submitted to review and staff was not aware that the windows had been instalIed.
Bates explained the addition started after he began a kitchen remodel and decided to construct an
addition instead of replacing the roof. There was discussion about the drawings, the time for
construction and the size and location of the deck. The height of the addition and the sidewalls was
discussed. The public hearing was closed. Wilsey made a motion to deny the applicafion based
on staff recommendafions. Igo seconded the moHon. There was discussion about the vinyl
windows and the height of the addition. Staff explained this was more of an enforcement issue than
approval and the commission needs to make recommendation on how to move forwazd. Lazson
made a friendly amendment to have staff review the vinyl windows for profile and compliance.
Wilsey stated the roofline on the addition should be dropped and the deck azound the side elevarion
should be removed. Thomas stated that reaz addifions were traditionally built smaller than the front
and Larson agreed. Bates interj ected that he wished to comply immediately. A neighbor stood up an
announced the paved area on the side of the house was a driveway, not an alley. The applicafion
was denied 9-0.
4. PERMIT REVIEW/PUBLIC HEARING:
A. 615-617 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District, by owner, Dave Roering, for a building
permit to demolish existing garage and construct a four-stall gazage. File #OS-014.
StafF read the report recommending conditional approval. Mamiing inquired about the dormer
windows in the plans. Trout-Oertel asked about redesigning the dormer with a hipped roof. Dave
Roering, owner/applicant, was present to answer questions. He stated he agreed with the staff •
recommendations except for the removal of the curb-cuts and driveways because one he would give
them up, it would be too difficult to get them back. There was discussion about the curb-cuts and
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parking. Roering stated the HPC decision would not have any legal weight and stated he would
• consider removing the Dale Street curb-cut but "legally" he would not have to. Meyer had questions
about lot coverage. Arthur Thesenvitz of S03 HoIly sent a letter of support for the garage proposal.
The pubiic hearing was closed. Meyer motioned to approve the applicatioa witk staff
recommendafions. Diane Trout-Oertel seconded fhe motion. The motion passed 7-1(Wilsey).
B. 178 Maple Sfreet, Dayfon's Bluff Historic District, by oumer, Lance Scott, for a
building permit to replace windows and window trim. File #OS-015.
Staff read the report recommending partial approval. Larsan had questions about the number of
windows proposed. Lance Scott, owner/applicant, stated all ofthe windows on the second floor and
a pair of double-hung on the frst floor for maintenance and energy efficiency. Currently the
windows have wood trim a decorative drip-edge. The applicant stated he would keep the mullion.
Wilsey discussed how Marvin could replicate the windows. Scott indicated he plans to instail the
windows himseif. Wiisey discussed replicating the moulding at the drip-edge. The public hearing
was closed. Wilsey motzoned approval of the first staff recommendation adding the foilowing
conditions: i. The horizontal munfin across the storm window shall have both an interior and
exferior profiles and shaR line up with the meeting rail of tLe windows. 2. The total
replacement of the proposed windows, headers, sills and casingltrim with aluminum-ctad wood
shall match what is existing in size, pro6le and detail. Meyer seconded the motion. The motion
passed 8-0.
C. 55 Victoria Street Nort@, Hill Aistoric Disfrict, by Ross Wiltits, Steppingstone Theatre,
� for a sign permit to install banners between the front columns. File #08-016
Staffread the report recommending denial of the application and exploration of other options forthe
banners. There were questions about attachment, location of poles, other examples of signage and
the permanency of the proposed banners. Ross Willits, managing director of Steppingstone Theatre
discussed the history of the building and color proposals that were not approved. He added
information about discussing banners with Joe Spencer and staff at a meeting and believed staff was
comfortable with the banners praposed on the front elevation and was surprised by the staff
recommendation. Kralicek stated concern for obscuring the stained glass windows. Wiilits noted
the mock-up photos were not to scale and didn't show perspective. He added the size could be
adjusted for visi6ility. Larson asked if the applicant were amenabie to alteration of the size so it
wouldn't fill the entire space between the columns. Willits replied he was fine with that suggestion
and that the less space filled the less wind-ware. Meyer added the proportion of the banners should
match the geometry of the building. Igo suggested relocating the banners to the base or the ends of
the stair walls. Willits stated the content of the banners would be changed ever three to fozar years as
they became weathered. Kralicek suggested looking at banners on poles. Angie Stehr,1656 Burns
Avenue, stated support of tYte proposal. The public @earing was ciosed. Meyer motioned to
conditionally approve the banners striking f►nding number 4 and altering findings 3 and 5.
Wilsey seconded the motion. Thomas stated concern for obscuring the windows. Meyer stated tt�e
banners will not detract from the facade. Wilsey agreed with Meyer. Kralicek and Igo disagreed.
Carey noted it is for a contemporaiy new use. Trout-Oertel added it is rev�rsible. Larson stated his
issue with the size of the banners and the visuai integrity since the solid to void proportions would be
disturbed. He added the banners should be nairower. Meyer added that fhe top of the banners
• should be below the capitals on the column. Igo stated he agrees with Larson. Igo offered a
friendly amendment thaY the size of the banners be approved by staff. Meyer accepted and
added that the banners hang in the center of the columns. The motion passed 6-1 {Kralicek).
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A 157 Kent Street, Hill FIistoric District,-bg Tom Baker; Temo Sunrooms and Eateriors, •
for a building pernut to construct a su�oom. File #08-f{17
Staff read the report recommending condifional approval. Bob Maietta of Temo Sunrooms and
Exteriors was present to answer quesrions. He stated he agreed with the staff recommendarions and
the homeowner did not have any issues with setting the sunroam back from the comer of building.
The public hearing was closed. Igo motioned to approve the application with staff
recommendations. Wilsey seconded the motion. The motion passed 6-0.
5, ANNOIINCEMENTS:
A. 2008 HPC Meeting Schedule was distributed and is available on the website.
B. Staff is looking into commissioner reappointments and wi11 inform of term
expirations.
C. Centrai Corridor Station Area Planning— Rovndtabie and Workshop Sessions. The
workshops are by invited and staff must be notified if commissioners pian to attend.
Faricy has already attended one meeting on the Raymond Station Area and I,arson will
be attending the Snelling Avenue Workshop.
b. ADJOURNtVIENT: 7:15 P.M.
Submiited by: Christine Barr
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Date: SI/8/2007 4:26 PM
Subject: 615-617 Holly
RE: The proposa! to build a four - stall garaqe at 615-617 Ho(ly Ave.
We strongly endorse the pians of Dave Roering to demolish the existing garage and build a new
four-stail garage. His work on the house has progressed beyond our expectations and we are
sure the garage wiil only add to the property. Arthur Thesenvitz @ Linda Lewis, 603 Hoily Ave.
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Date: 12/12J2007 9:10 AM
Subject: 6I5-617 Holly Avenue
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St. Paul, MN 55101
Re: 615-617 Holty Avenue
On the upcoming ciry council agenda is an appeai to an HPC decision. The issue involves building a four car
garage off the afley and removing two parking pads in the front lawn of a duplex rental property . I agree with
the decision to require the removal of the pads. No other property on that block has curb cuts to allow parking
in the front because there exists an alley in back. Front lawn parking is not needed for a duplex unit with a 4 car
garage.
Sincerely yours,
Charles Goenner
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November 16, 2007
Dave Roering
90 Dale Street
Saint Paul, MN 55102
DEPARTti4ENT OF SAFE'CY A\D [\SPECT[Oh`S
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Re: 615-617 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District
November 15, 2007 - HPC Permit Review, Agenda Item IV.A.
HPC File #0$-014 �
Dear Mr. Roering:
As you know, the Heritage Peeservation Commission (HPC) considered at its November 15, 2007
meeting your application for a buiiding permit to demolish Yhe existing garage and construct a
four-stali garage at the property listed above. The HPC voeed 7- 1 to conditionaily aAprove your
apptication. This decision was based on tha discussion at the public hearing, public testimony and
findings by HPC staff.
� The appiication wii( be approved provided ehe fol(owing condition(s} are met:
I. Final materials and finishes are to be reviewed and approved by staff. The cement lap siding
will have a smooth texture and be 4 to 5 inches wide instead of the proposed 6 inches. The
composite trim shalt also have a smooth texture and be painted. Wide trim be at the corners
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and around windows and doors. Final trim detaiiing shall be reviewed and approved by staff.
2. Instead of the £our proposed dormers, the roof planes will be simpiified by having one centrai
dormar at the alley elevation that is appropriate for the hipped roof shape. Plans shall be
submitted to staff for final review and approval.
3. A fence shall be installed around two sides of the off-sYreet parking spaces and shall be
approved by staff.
4. The clriveways and curb-cuts from Hol1y and in the front yard wili be removed within 30
days from the final inspection date approving the garage.
5. Any revisions to the approved plans must be submitted to the HPC and/or staff for review.
6. The HPC stamped approved plans must be kept on site during the construction project.
You or any aggrieved party has the righf to appeal the Herieage Preservation Commission's decision
to the Saint Paul Gity Couneil under Chapter 73 of the Saint Paul Legisl�tive Code. Such an appea(
must be filed within 14 days of the date of the HPC's order and decisian. Chapter 73 states:
(h) Appeal to city coztncil. The perinit applicant or ttnyparty aggrieved by the decision af dhe
heritage preservation cot�anzission shadl, rnizhin fouYteen (14) days of the date of the heritage
preserva£ion conzmission's order and decision, have a right to c+ppeal such order and
decision to the ciry coamcil. The appeal shall be deen:ed peifected upon receipt by the
division ofptanning [LTEP] of t�vo (2) copies of a notice of appeal arid siatetrreNt setting fort7x
the grozands for the appeal. The division of plaraning [LIEPJ shall transnzit otze copy of dhe
taotice of appeal and staten2ent to the city councad and one copy to the heritage preservatio�z
eol�ar�zission. The comnzissimz, in any written order derrying a permdt appliecrtio�l, shall actvise
ihe applicant of the right to appeal to the city council and include ihis paragraph in atl such
orders.
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Please nofe, an HPC approval or-conditional approval does not obviate the nzed for meetin� i
applicahie buildin; ai�d zoning code requirements, nor is it a permit to aRoFV for FF'ork to
camcnence. An HPC appro<<al or conditionai approval espires after one }'ear if no permit has bezn
issued. I£ revisions to the approved plans are made, be au�are thak additional HPC and�or staff
review will be required.
Please feel free to contact staff at 651-266-90�8 if you have any questians. The pemiit app(ication
and plans witl be on hofd until the a6ove condirions have been met.
Sincerely,
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Christine Barr
Historic Preservation Planner
cc: Greg Johnsoi�, Building Inspector
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