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RESOLUTION
SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
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WHEREAS, the Legislative Hearing Officer recommends that the application for (I.D. #20080000933) a
Pawn Shop license for Red Dog Holdings LLC, doing business as Maxit Pawn, 482 Robert Street North,
be approved without conditions.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby approves this license
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Approving the license application, per the Legislative Hearing Officer, for a Pawn Shop license for Red Dog Holdings LLC, doing
business as Macit Pawn, 482 Robert Street North. .
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LICENSE HEARING MINUTES � � ��
Maxit Pawn at 482 Robert Street North
Thwsday, May 22, 2008, 10:00 a.m.
330 City Hall, 15 Kellogg Boulevard West
Mazcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 10:05 a.m.
Staff Present: Jeffrey Fischbach, Department of Safety and Inspections (DSI); and Jean Birkholz,
Council Research
Others Present: Gregory Daniel and Mark Smith, owners.
Maxit Pawn: Request for a Pawn Shop license
Ms. Moermond stated that this is an informal legislative hearing for a license application. This is a
Class N notification which means that the neighborhood gets notified and has a chance to voice its
concerns. If any one has a concern, it automatically triggers a hearing. Other Class N Licenses include:
liquor sales, entertainment, auto sales, etc.—things that have an immediate impact on the neighborhood.
The City received two (2) letters of concern regarding the issuance of this license. Ultimately, there are
three (3) possible outcomes from this hearing: 1) Ms. Moermond can recommend to the City Council
that they issue this license without any conditions; 2) she can recommend to the City Council that they
issue this license with agreed upon conditions; or 3) she can recommend to the City Council that they
not issue this license but refer it to an administrative law judge for a further hearing and findings.
Ms. Moermond will begin with a staff report. Staff will be asked to explain their review of the
application and will also explain their recommendation. Then, she will ask the applicant to talk about
the business plan. Next, if there are other people here, she will heaz from those who are here in support
of the issuance of the license and those with concerns about the issuance of the license; and, she will
review the letters / emails that were sent regarding this application.
Mr. Jeff Fischbach, DSI, provided the staff report. There are no conditions currently on the license and
there are no conditions recommended for the new license. No correspondence was received from
CapitalRiver District Council (17). Regarding inspection requirements: Building is not applicable;
Environmental Health is not applicable; Fire has approved; Licensing has approved; and Zoning has
approved. The Department of Safety and Inspections recommends approval with no conditions.
Ms. Moermond began by asking if the applicants were new to the business or have been in the pawn
shop business for a while. Mr. Smith answered that they currently operate fourteen (14) pawn shops in
the Midwest: two (2) in St. Louis; four (4) in Indiana; and eight (8) in the Minnesota Metro Area. Mr.
Smith has been in the pawn business for eleven (11) years. His partner, Greg, is relatively new to the
business.
Ms. Moermond asked if they had a chance to read the letters of concern. The applicants noted that they
had. Mr. Smith added that the pawn business has a negative stigma and iYs his challenge to educate
people about what they really do because the stereotypes and preconceived notions are really false. He
explained that Mr. Daniel has an MBA and he has a law degree. They have a high level management
and operate with a very favorable response from the police. They aze very cooperative with the APS
System (a computer system that eliminates nearly all confiscations and all trafficking and stolen items).
They average less that .OS percent of their business as a co�scation. They have a very good
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administrative process; a corporate office; bookkeeping; accounting; financial reviews. Their reports aze
sent to the police every day as required.
Ms. Moermond asked about their hours of operation. Mr. Smith responded that they recently changed
their hours in Saint Paul by one-half hour. Now, they aze open from 9:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday
through Friday (they had been open from 10:00 a.m. unti17:00 p.m.). On Saturday, the hours are from
10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Sunday — Noon to 6:00 p.m., depending on location.
Ms. Moermond asked about the security systems that they had in place. Mr. Smith replied that they aze
fully-alarmed. Every angle of the store is covered with a security camera. They have a 24-hour
monitoring surveillance system in place with a wireless back-up system in case any of the phone lines
go down. The store relies on digital photography while open and surveillance when the store is closed.
Mr. Daniel added that all of the expensive items are stored either in a safe or in a secure location with a
lock.
Ms. Moermond asked how the store handles a problem person. Mr. Smith responded that in Minnesota,
people need a valid driver's license, a digital photograph, or a state I.D., etc., and all this information is
computerized. There are requirements that need to be followed; otherwise, store employees can't serve
them. If there's a problem, they have a 911 non-emergency number.
Ms. Moermond asked how they would know if property is stolen. Items that aze brought in are digitally
photographed; they are also put into the computer system (APS System) by make, model and serial
number. The police will confiscate an item if they believe that it has been stolen. Mr. Daniel added that
there's a qualification process up front, as well. It depends upon the item but many times, just asking
them where they got the item, if they have a receipt or how the item works helps to discern if an item is
stolen.
Ms. Moermond asked if they have an exterior camera. Ms. Smith replied that, at the present, they do
not; however, he is looking into it. They do have a camera pointed at the entrance along with the other
ones they have.
Ms. Moermond asked if they had some idea about what people used their money for. Mr. Smith replied
that recently they were the lead story on WCCO, and they interviewed about six (6) customers and asked
the same question. People said they needed brakes, tires, household supplies, tires, etc. Some had no
more credit left on their card or didn't have anyone from whom to borrow. There are a lot of people
who are in a crisis and don't have a support resources. And, about 60 per cent of the people who come
into the pawn shop come back to pick up their items. The average loan is about $80. He noted that he
feels good about being in a business thaYs able to help people who aze in an emergency situation.
Ms. Moermond will recommend approval with no conditions.
The hearing was adjourned at 10:28 a.m.
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