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RESOLUTION
SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
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1 BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the July 17,
2 2007, decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Appeals of Letters and Letters of Deficiency for the
3 following addresses:
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5 Pronerty Appealed Appellant
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7 1204 Sherburne Avenue Christine Navarro
8 Decision: Grant the appeal for a variance on the room occupancy conditioned on the present ownership of
9 the property
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11 41 Douglas Street Jim Smith
12 Decision: Grant the appeal for a variance on the hand sink in the bathroom conditioned on the present
13 ownership of the property
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15 1893 Marshall Avenue David Kari
16 Decision: Deny the appeal on a fence variance
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Resolurion approving the decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Appeals of Letters and Letters of Deficiency for properties at
41 Douglas Street, 1893 Mazshall Avenue and 1204 Sherbume Avenue.
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MINUTES OF THE LEGISLATIVE HEARING
LETTERS OF DEFICIENCY, CORRECTION NOTICES, CORRECTION ORDERS
Room 330 City Hall, 15 West Kellogg Boulevard
Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 1:30 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Joseph Ehrlich, Deparhnent of Safety and Inspections (DSn - Licensing,
Leanna Shaff, DSI - Fire Prevention; Michael Urmann, DSI - Fire Prevention
Appeal of Christine Navarro to a Certificate of Occupancy with Deficiencies for property at
1204 Sherburne Avenue.
The following appeazed: Christine Navarro, appellant, and David Nichols, property owner. Mr.
Nichols stated that he could comply with everything on the order.
Mr. Urmann reported that the inspector made the correct determination under the code. The
building code and the fire code require anything under four feet when dealing with a peaked roof to
be unoccupied space. The measurement is taken at five feet and above. There is a peaked ceiling in
this room. With the peaked ceiling, the usable squaze feet was 91. If they were to take those areas
cut off by the peaked ceiling and add those in, it more than adequately meets the requirements for
the code for 50 square feet per person. The determinarion was correct because it is usable square
footage that they are measuring, but in this case the construction makes it unusable.
Ms. Moermond asked the actual floor square footage. Mr. Urmann responded that he did not
measure that, but puts it around 97 square feet. It was 91 square feet without measuring the areas
under five feet high. The requirement is 50 square feet per person per occupant. There were two
occupants in this room: a five year old and an eight year old child.
Ms. Moermond stated she wiil grant the appeal and issue a variance of nine square feet to allow
occupancy of this bedroom by two children. This variance will apply for the duration of the present
owner's ownership of the building. If the building is sold, this issue will need to be revisited.
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Appeai of Jim Smith to a Certificate of Occupancy with Deficiencies for property at 41
DouElas Street.
Jnn Smith, property owner, appeazed.
Ms. Shaff stated that she and Mr. Smith had talked prior to the hearing this morning. The bedroom
with an opening in the wall does meet egress requirements. The call by the inspector was incorrect.
It appears the toilet has been there for a very long time. It does not have a hand sink. The property
maintenance code requires a hand sink, but there is nowhere to put one inside or outside of that
room. It is a correct call, but he is not sure that making him disable that toilet would be the correct
way to go. The kitchen sink is close. It is not idea to use the kitchen sink for washing after the
batl�room; however, if that is all there is, that is not unreasonable. The third item is about the
residential hearing report. She provided him with a blank copy of that. Mr. Smith has agfeed to
haue his contractor fill that out and give him some time to do that.
Ms. Moermond stated it seems that everything got discussed ahead of time. She asked is this the
only bathroom. Mr. Smith responded that this one is off the kitchen, but there is one upstairs.
Ms. Moermond granted a variance that the kitchen sink can be substitute for the hand sink as it is
close proximity to the bathroom. This is for the duration of the present ownership.
Appeal of David Kari on the Denial of a Fence Variance Request for property at 1893
Marshall Avenue. (DSI-Licensing)
Mr. Kari, property owner, appeared.
Joel Ehrlich reported that the application is for a six foot fence in the front yard. A four foot fence
is allowed. The reason far the fence was the need to contain two energetic dogs and it is a high
traffic street that causes the dogs to get excited. They adhere closely to the ordinance. They are
only allowed to grant a variance if it is found that the site, terrain or nuisance animal conditions
warrant a waiver of the height restrictions. This lot is level. They did not observe any site
conditions that are unique to the site. The house is set back about 26 feet from the sidewalk and is
in line with all the other houses. That is a minimum setback in the front that would require an
adequate rear for the dog. There were no conditions that would warrant a fence there.
Ms. Moermond stated that a six foot fence can go all the way to the front of the house along the
sides. It can be flush with the front of the building according to code. She asked does he have a
photo. Mr. Kari responded he does have a few to show her.
Mr. Kari presented photographs.
Mr. Kari stated that there is a lot of activity late at night. There were times that he had to put a mail
box on the street because the mail lady would not deliver to the house because of the dogs. Every
weekend it would get damaged. Now there is a halfway house next door. There are some things
concerning to him. They would be more comfortabie with a six foot fence. They have had people
come up to the house at 2:00 a.m. in the morning and they ripped out all three of the lights.
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Ms. Moermond stated that the dogs wouid be aware of an intruder just because the fence made a
noise. That wouid be some level or security. When she looks at the streetscape, she does not see
any fencing. This is not a fenced neighborhood. Mr. Ehrlich responded there are not toa many on
the street or that block. There aze a lot of rentals, too.
Mr. Kari asked the reasoning for the four foot guidelines. Mr. Ehrlich added that part of it for the
police. In any emergency, they like to identify the house. TYus is a nonobscuring fence, but
sometimes they become obscuring with plantings. Also, it is one of the few aesthetics responses
that we have in the City. It does not look good to have six foot fences. It says keep out. The
response the City would like is a more welcoming front porch response. It provides a better
cityscape.
Ms. Moermond sfated she is reconunending that the City not grant a variance on this issne. He
could talk to Councilmember Benanav if he would like to pursue this further. She feels staff made
the right cali on this one.
The hearing was adjourned at approximately 2:00 p.m.
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