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Green Sheet # 3044257
RESOLUTION
CITY 0�S/�I�IT� PAUL, MINNESOTA
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WIiEREAS, the Legislative Hearing Officer recommends that a request to add (ID #20050003204) Liquor
Outdoor Service Area (Sidewalk) to the existing licenses of Wine On Sale, Malt On Sale (Strong),
Entertainment (A), Cigazette/1'obacco and Restaurant (B)—more than 12 seats for Andrea Miller, Owner,
Chatterbox Enterprises Highland Inc, doing business as Chatterbox Pub at 800 Cleveland Avenue be
approved with the following conditions:
1. Per City of Saint Paul L,egislative Code 409.15. The sale of Wine On Sale and Malt On Sale (Strong)
will take place only in conjuncUOn with the sale and service of food (menu item only). Copies of gross /
revenue receipts from the sales of food, wine and beer, showing at least sixty (60) percent attributable to the
sale of food, shall be made available for review upon request of the director of the Department of Safety and
Inspections (DSn or his/her designated representative.
2. Per City of Saint Paul Legislative Code 4ll.02, Entertainment A is defined as amplified or nonamplified
music and/or singing by performers without limitation as to number and group singing participated in by
patrons of the establishment (includes karaoke).
Conditions for Liquor-Outdoor Service Area (Sidewalk):
3. The sidewalk cafe is an extension of the restaurant operation onto a part of the public sidewalk which
immediately adjoins the licensed premises.
4. No sidewalk cafe shall be pernutted in any portion of the public sidewalk where normal pedestrian
traffic flow is obstructed. A minimum cleazance width of thirty-six (36) inches must be maintained on the
public sidewalk at all times.
5. No tables, chairs or any other furnishings except plant tubs shall be placed in the area used for the
sidewalk cafe during any period when the sidewalk cafe is not open and being operated. While such cafe is in
operation, all tables and chairs shall be kept in a clean, sanitary condition.
6. The use of a por[ion of the public sidewalk as a sidewalk cafe shall not be an exclusive use. All public
improvements, including but not limited to trees, light poles, traffic signals, pull boxes or manholes or any
public initiated maintenance procedures, shall take precedence over said use of the public sidewalk at all times.
7. It shall be the duty of the licensed food establishment to maintain each plant tub at all times in a safe
condition at its proper location and to inspect each such tub periodically in order that it may be property
maintained. Trees or plants and their tubs shall at all times be kept in a neat, clean and presentable condiuon.
No advertising matter or sign or writing of any kind shall be displayed upon any tree or plant or its tub.
8. No outdoor food and/or beverage prepazation is allowed on a public sidewalk without prior approval and
additional licensing from DSI.
TFIEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby approves this license
application.
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Approving the license application with conditions, pet the Legislative Hearing Officer, for adding Liquor Outdoor Service Area
(Sidewa]k) for Andrea Miller, Owner, Chatteibox Enterprises Highland Inc, doing business as Chatterbox Pub at 800 Clevela�d
Avenue South.
idatlons: Approve (A) or Ke7ect (R): Personai Servlce contracu must wnswer tne rouowmg uuestions:
Planning Commission 1. Has this person/firm ever worked under a contract for this department?
CIB Committee Yes No
Civil Service Commission 2. Has this person/frm ever been a city employee?
Yes No
3. Does this person/firm possess a skill not normally possessed by any
current ciry employee?
Yes No
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Initiating Problem, Issues, Opportunity (1Nho, What, When, Where, Why):
AdvanWges If Approved:
Uisadvantages If Approved:
Disadvantages If Not Approved:
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LICENSE HEARING MINUTES
Chatterbox Pub located at 800 Cleveland Avenue South
Friday, August 10, 2007, 10:00 a.m.
330 City Hall, 15 Kellogg Boulevard West
Mazcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 10:11 a.m.
Staff Present: Jeff Fiscbbach, Department of Safety and Inspections (DSI); and Jean Birkholz,
Council Research.
Others Present: Steven Miller, owner, Chatterbox Enterprises Highland Inc, doing business as
Chatferbox Pub, 80U Cievetand Avenue South; Bill Poutos, president, Highland District Council;
and Michelle Martin, manager, Village Apartments
Chatterbox Pub: Add Liquor Outdoor Service Area (Sidewalk) (ID #f2005000320A) to the existing
]icenses for Wine On Sale, Malt On Sa]e (Strong}, Entertainment (A), Cigarette/Tobacco and Restaurant
(B) — more than 12 seats
Ms. Moermond stated that this license application is for a Class N License which requires neighborhood
notification. The City received one letter of concern to the issuance of this license which means that a
LegislaYive Hearing is necessary. There are three (3) possible outcomes of this hearing. Ms. Moermond
could: 1) recommend to the City Council that Yhey issue this ]icense withouY any condiYions; 2)
recommend to the City Council that they issue this license wiYh agreed upon conditions; or 3}
recommend to the City Council that they not issue the license and refer this matter to an Administrative
Law Judge, which usually takes from four (4) to six (6) months. Ms. Moermond would use this option if
she thinks that there's no way that Chis business is workable at this location or if she thinks that there are
conditions that are absolutely necessary to make it workable that the applicants find unacceptable. Ms.
Moermond's recommendation will come to the City Counci] as a resolution and it will appeaz on the
Consent Agenda.
Ms. Moermond will begin with a staff report. Next, the business proposal witl be discussed. People
with concerns about the issuance of the license will be heard as well as people who are here to support
the issuance of the license.
Mr. Jeff Fischbach, DSI, provided a staff report. A recommendation was received from the district
council approving a waiver of the 45-day waiting period. Building, Environmental Health, Fire, License
and Zoning Inspections all have been approved. The Department of Safety and Inspections recommends
approval with the following conditions:
l. Per City of Saint Pan] Legislative Code 409.15. The sale of Wine On Sale and Malt On Sale
(Strong) will take place only in conjunction with Yhe sale and service of food (menu item only). Copies
of gross / revenue receipts from the sales of food, wine and beer, showing at least sixty (60) percent
attributable to the sale of food, shall be made available for review upon request of the director of the
Department of Safety and Inspections (DSI) or his/her designated representative.
2. Per City of Saint Paul Legislative Code 411.02, Entertainment A is defined as amplified or
nonamplified music and/or singing by performers without limitation as to number and group singing
participated in by patrons of the establishment (includes karaoke).
Conditions for Liquor-Outdoor Service Area (Sidewalk):
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3. The sidewalk cafe is an extension of the restaurant operation onto a part of the public sidewalk
which immediately adjoins the licensed premises.
4. No sidewalk cafe shall be permitted in any portion of the public sidewalk where normal
pedestrian traffic flow is obstructed. A minimum clearance width of thirty-six {36) inches must be
maintained on the public sidewalk at aSl times.
5. No tables, chairs or any other fixrnishings except plant tubs shail be placed in the area used for
the sidewalk cafe during any period when the sidewalk cafe is not open and being operated. Whiie such
cafe is in operation, all tables and chairs shall be kept in a clean, sanitary condition.
6. The use of a portion of the public sidewalk as a sidewalk cafe shall not be an exclusive use. Ail
public improvements, including but not limited to trees, light poles, traffic signals, pull boxes or
manholes or any public initiated maintenance procedures, shail take precedence over said use of the
public sidewalk at all times.
7. It shall be the duty of the licensed food establishment to maintain each piant tub at all times in a
safe condition at its proper location and to inspect each such tub periodically in order that it may be
property maintained. Trees or plants and their tubs shali at all times be kept in a neat, clean and
presentable condiYion. No advertising matter or sign or writing of any kind shall be displayed upon any
tree or plant or its tub.
8. No outdoor food and/or beverage preparation is allowed on a public sidewalk without prior
approval and additional licensing from DSI.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Fischbach if there had been any change made to the conditions since the
notification was mailed on May 23, 2007. Mr. Fischbach replied that there have not been any changes
made to the conditions. The conditions are agreeable to the applicant.
Ms. Moermond reviewed the letter from Viliage Apartment Homes IT, LLP. Ms. Martin, manager,
stated that owner, Mark Otness, had written the letter suggesting that alcohol served on the sidewaik
cease at dusk to keep the noise down because the apartments have no air conditioning and people sleep
with their windows open. If noise wexe to become a problem, he suggested that a review be made.
Also, that any approvai for sidewalk dining not be transferable to a third party. Mr. Millet responded
that this letter had been worked up by both Mr. Otness and Mr. Milter a yeaz ago. Both had agreed to it.
When Mr. Otness sent in the letter, he did not intend for it to be an opposition letter. Ms. Moermond
commented that she is fine with a private agreement between business owners; however, it would not be
enforceable by the City.
Mr. Bilt Poulos, president of the Highland District Council, spoke. He said that he is not sure when
"dusk" is and it would be clearer if a time certain could be estabiished. Mr. Poulos added that Shawn
Bartsch, Highland Business Associarion representative, wants to make sure that the outside of the
building is cleaned on a regular basis. Mr. Miller responded that they try to take care of those things
right away. He added that if Shawn ever sees anything, she should call him directly on his cell phone.
Mr. Poulos added that it's great to have the Chatterbox in the neighborhood; they have worked well with
the council and have been a good neighbor.
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Mr. Fischbach stated that DSI also has concems about the word "dusk." It is not enforceable. DSI
requires a time. Noise issues could be very easily handled by the Police; there aze noise ordinance
regulations. Licenses are not transferable. If a new business comes in, they would need to apply for a
new license.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Miller about their current business hows. He replied that they are open from
7 a.m. Monday — Friday and close at 1 a.m. (2 a.m. Friday and Saturday); and open from 9 a.m. Saturday
and Sunday (close 1 a.m. Sunday). At their pub in Minneapolis, they stop seating the patio at 9 pm. and
they make sure that patio is cleazed at 10 p.m. In Saint Paul, they could stack the chairs to make sure
that no one is using the area to create noise. Ms. Moermond noted that she is moving pazallel with the
noise ordinance, which is 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.
Mr. Fischbach stated that Mr. Miller will be on the hook if inspectors pass by after 10 p.m. and see
people sitting there. Mr. Miller responded that maybe people will be sitting there, but Chatterbox will
not be providing service out there. So far, they haven't had a late issue. Ms. Martin added that no one
in the building has complained about noise since the patio has been open; street noise is the biggest issue
there.
Ms. Moermond noted that a few well-placed complaints will result in a review of the license and
potential adverse action. Mr. Poulos suggested that maybe the district council could interject itself into
the process after a complaint or two, in order to help mediate the situation before it needs to go to City
Hall. Mr. Miller added that the only neighbor is the apartment complex and he thinks that Mr. Otness
wanted to make sure that if a problem should arise, there would be an avenue to go about a solution.
Ms. Moermond suggested that signage be provided asking to respect the residential character of the
neighborhood upon exiting. Mr. Miller stated that they have taken those steps. Ms. Martin and Mr.
Poulos said that if they heard a complaint, they would take it up with Mr. Miller and hy to solve it
within the neighborhood before they march down to City Hall. Ms. Moermond suggested that
Chatterbox Pub's manager's contact information be provided for the neighbors/tenants.
Ms. Moermond recommended approval with the aforementioned conditions plus the addition of the two
(2) following conditions:
9. Service in the liquor outdoor service area (sidewalk) shall be restricted to between the hours of
7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m.
10. All seating in the liquor outdoor service azea shall be cleared of people by 10:00 p.m.
The hearing was adjourned at 10:54a.m.
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