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212680/ ORIGINAL TO CITY CLERK PRESENTED BY COMMISSION 40 212680 CITY OF ST. PAUL COUNCIL NO. OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK _ COUNCIL RESOLUTION — GENERAL FORM ;.• ,, v�,�,,;. DATE aL_ PUBLISHED Jam- n6 3 WHEREAS, Concordia College of Saint Paul was recently accredited as a four -year liberal arts college; and WHEREAS, said college lost its athletic field by reason of the development of the interstate highway through condemnation by the State of Minnesota; and WHEREAS, said athletic facilities are necessary for maintaining its accredited standing; and WHEREAS, the said college has requested the City of Saint Paul to sell the two westerly blocks of Dunning Field, the said blocks being in Ingersoll's Addition to the City of Saint Paul, which the City of Saint Paul obtained from the State of Minnesota in 1912, said blocks to be continued in use as and for athletic purposes by the college; and WHEREAS, the Council wishes to encourage the advance- ment of higher learning and education and to cooperate in every way with the development of these facilities, therefore be it a� D o�tokoncordia of the City of Saint Paul W 1 se - e a ores proper College subject to "the following provisions: 1. That suitable replacement property be provided the city; 2. That the price paid is approved and subject to the future approval of this Council; 3. That said land will be used only in connection with the educational purposes of Concordia College, including athletic activities ;and That a committee of the City Council be appointed by the Mayor to study the subject matter further. MAY 10 1963 COUNCILMEN Adopted by the Council 19 Yeas Nays al h MAY 10 1963 Holland A r ved 19— - - -' Tn Favor ortinson Mayor Against osen r. President, Vavoulis ION! 6-62 tia�L svo ?t+ bivra aPrf OF It C'.f IX l'�:1s4�'t, +tyrY �- xr wry }]K r� � �i'r_,.......r.vz. r¢•:e• y� _ _ ��?t"E�,.i+s. �t;,h�`s�,��t „� sq/.�.+�..S�i�'}�r �� "M7/• r. - J +A �i�.• • a , _ �1i �• 17II:gw•`�,' sal��i •Si'.i'Lii.�•1•�N:4.i�Yi/�f , fit X. r ISHEAS. Concordia College of S 'Aj.,Tt N_Xal W4.1 7r " accredited as a four-year lihorel arts coilegs; and WHFp. M9 said collc?e last its athIctic gialj by reason ow the development of tae intars Bate 111.ghwey t€��rougft co e � t'tic� : b the State •o€ &j.nnesota; and WHEWAS, said athletic facilities arc naco3va V fob maintaining its accredited s Wandlrq; &M MIRE&* the said college has rakussted they f,.I1 saint Paul to sell the two westevjy blocks of Punning FiC149 i the said blocks being n Ingersoll $ Mdl.tion to the City !f Saint ,Paul, which the City of Saint PhVIL Obtained fZVM t t+a of Minnea0ta in 1912, said bl.00ke , to bz continuerj u *a 4z and for ethletic purposes by the col.L ga; and i4€HETeta, the Council wishes to anacuraQo the �f 11.1phez learrdn; and oducatioa Iwj to -caperp-to ip. viva'' %A- h thO dovolerzent of these facili't�ie 9 t)zer io �: be ,jt. } t'Ict �'• f, . ; i��1G�sita wmvi-sions !.� I'lazt, z-1 table ba {3tifbVi;scu" tha cityl 2;, That the price paid is appxovsd !xbjkCt tL - the- .futVre approval of this Cctrc11$ imo:r: - 3* Thct `said land will tie used call irr. con ;titi��,�.ESt� with the gL;uca'tio.nal pur aces a:; Corico dId lnClc.diPQ athletl.c actiV tia$0 3;�d carmattee of the city e Arwil ba r :4r'rzd fey fiho • _ Adapt.>z3 _ by the i c+ tnejl, q 'In Favor 2_4 Wr t rF-, ° 2. in accordance with LawS of :.in .esoLa fc.,r lq� +j, Chaptcr 579, sectiori 3, - NVA-r. Therez'oro, be i t RGS•DLVE'D,- That the Gounc it of the ;i t;, of :;a in t Paul does approve the sale to The-Lutheran '�'nurch •- Missouri Synod, as. that corporation holding title to rea.1 property for Concordia, College, St,: Pa�zl, Minn ,rota, fcr ed` -icational and /or recreational purposes, ct:e following describt ?d to-wit: All. of dock 9, D. V;. Irgersoll Addici.on to St. Fact, :'4inn. and the 1racate'd 311F,y trere,_n, a7.d tr;t�t part of vaca,:cd T-1--hart A-renue adjacent to said Brock ) grid j.;,'Ing nor ch of Kira �,escz iced as_f.l covrs; sOALLercc ing a�, a point. o.z Jhe eas terl;, lire of said ' otl. 9 extaf -rl�,d so %i therly aid 29, fec t north- o f t:Ie r -ort�l line of Marsnait A,renue; Ghence- :nest pa,rallpl `.,rich the soizLt, line ok said. Block 9 a d iSt_ree of 13b .0 fee-,:.; thence _ -so, th at rig o ht ang as a distance ,' 4C, feat; thence. ;,rest a1'allel With the sol-th lire of said Block 9 to the point of inter aect ion � with ' rae. west line Of said Block: 9 extended soutner:i.y. i rai��; #,h4 u ac�ersta ^ding of tl�c ;'c,ur,cil atZd The Lutheran,. Church -� '"�iSSatil i tl�ar�v of Cot.cora i a Co "! lege, ,�' ;. Fatz:L, iitL:tesotu chd L the exact.- _1egn.i cue scrif.t i��n s"rall hE .sub jec•t to t el,d R AC' aiTI U, kt'L;T3Tli�R; That any deed, conveying s-sAi,,..rea1 prQperty to said purchasers, shalt - cont;ai3: the follol,1111 - or similar restrictloii:' That _ieid real property shall_ be used only for- edtkc4;tional a?,xd/ or recreational }purposes, atyp z } FE'SOL` ED, l TT'"OH�l_:_;R, That, : a_c:.;istent- with approved land `• use and recreational need, o° this Cl-ty and' specjfir_ally that portion of saia City serviced by LUnniag Field, the f-wids xece'v,�d from the sale herein cor.,Lemplated shall, r)e used to develop,g improve and increase tlae recre-atioZia.l and- playgrai:;rd site: in said area of tri` corrmUn.ity, and R�SGT�`�I fi, FJRTh R� Zna t the prope-r Ui ty official s ars hereby xu zi:orized to negotiattz the sAle of said proper r ;s described herein and, to prepare and' execs -. -e aPPropria to deed.F - -4f conveyance ta6ief'or, the Arica of saki Sale bein_- based on i. f � �.9 � - -t- ... _ � .. _. � r qtr- - i,- .w�.��rrr�-. Taw- �..�w— - .rte ..�� w�..r �..r._ ... +�s+.��.� a^ -r- �r — �-+�.�..-• „�..wr�.. aI •cM.rtn'ir.f1_'tl!t••i'r�9i .A7 - • _ _ �` , OF ST. PAUL pow - _ r Page 3. ; -'a _ tp al of 4ppr'oxiMate1y 17,,1$3 s ` a pro ima te1- square fast % the same bai,rla Y 3.95 acres, and the price iteron.f � :iA�; ��SQ 0(�3, ith the.-proviso that following finial field .serve or deductions in” the amount of teal estate =contemplated -to be# conveyed $h all- to said purchase price be- added 'car subtracted at rate of l_.45 pet' square foot, and said off ai$_ aro - f'' -Men - authoxrized to-accept the consideration to be �Oid h6rain ixs acoordance with thOe Charter and Orc�Saandes Of said City) :Gags of the "State of cif AfinnAsota far 1 4 Minnesota and, in particui,rr, Laws 9 %, - Chapter 579,:�Gti0n1 3 it teirtg unc�iei•.stot;d , by the COUncil 'beat the considerate on for said paid to said City shah. be pr s t,4je paid when the purchASex•s t er 'of been satisi'ie�� a$ to marketable title hnid it being tha ruv�1 'Undorsta,ndi,nig of the parties that the ' r . title to said Aurcha�,er,� intend �:a �'egi.s�:r prier= zu 60mme cement- ofnsa.idaregist!^$tieni2dp� oc� °d;tnhsll, :,� ,.pr�i, *1 g -MOLVE:Do FTJJr_HER '.�'k!at lio fence Or other `ntr 1a yta, "IV }aye plaeod 20 as td prey; ude the use of the facijitwe5, by »he $hiidrm�; 0f the ' Clt-y of Saint Paul when the field is not in use for tspeaitia oQ11mg6 tiayivi t�i_s - F - - f - f ` . JUN t/ /gyp, W .1 Adopt,-(,' by the Cd1inci1 JUN 28 tip to "iy�c�"'�.•aYt�Il - ��'`�'t1Y0�' - �... ��'Ly.._y' % - - .��:� -1�. �W.1J - -- ' -] , - •t • -i `'4 + �.'4--- .�i�fJGIC t r ,n..wi...� - - - :jet. �'L.:�;.•�;�t; uC 'QUl�+ -_ - - - '- _ _ - • '" a� i 1•iar .- ' _' _ - -, i♦ ` .. .., a 6f - ,_ -_- - • M1 s -i +- '. c ,`t - ', - - , • I y�z6 bra iE._J.V�2 CBS AFFILIATE • 55 EAST FOURTH STREET • SAINT PAUL 1, MINNESOTA • CAPITAL 2 -3606 GEORGE L. HELENIAR Manager, Saint Paul Office May 14, 1963 To the Members of the St. Paul City Council Court House Mr. Harold Riordan, _6!4y- 61erk- St. Paul, Minnesota. Gentlemen: We have been informed that the City Council Members adopted a reso- lution that may lead to the sale of a portion of Dunning Field. For the records, the Board of Directors of the St. Paul. Municipal Softball Assn., representing some 5,000 people in organized leagues under its supervision, are opposed to this move. We are primarily opposed because of present inadequate facilities in the number of developed fields throughout the city particularly in the area West of Dale Street and South of University. There is simply no possi- bility of acquiring any replacement land in this area which is now providing the greatest good to the greatest numbers. We further wish to point out that there is no consistency in recomr mending, or any value to be received, by the people now using Dunning Field to have °replacement land larger than the land lost" if such replacement land were at or near Midway Stadium, McMurray.Field, Harriet Island or in the Rice - Arlington area. Such replacement land would further place a burden upon those people who now have to travel many miles to use Dunning especially the children who now.walk or use bicycles to reach there. This too could involve a safety factor regard- ing children. While this letter is being sent to state Softball Board action, our ` Board also joins in with all the other sports groups using Dunning in asking it be maintained intact. We also speak for the countless number of children and adults who live in the Dunning area who have expressed to our Board Members their desire that we include them in our expression. Sinc ely yours,, eorge L. Heleniak President, St. Paul Municipal Softball Assn. REPRESENTED BY PETERS, GRIFFIN, WOODWARD, INC. c.1. +h..1• tir, r�.� ,ti May 14, 1963 To the Members of the St. Paul City Council Court House Mr. Harold Riordan, Q St. Paul, P- iinnesota. Gentlemen: We have been informed that the City Council Members adopted a reso- lution that may lead to the sale of a portion of Dunning Field. For the records, the Board of Directors of the St. Paul Municipal Softball Assn., representing some 5,000 people in organized leagues under its supervision, are opposed to this move. We are primarily opposed because of present inadequate facilities in the number of developed fields throughout the city particularly in the area West of Dale Street and South of University. There is simply no possi- bility of acquiring any replacement land in this area which is now providing the greatest good to the greatest numbers. 1,7-690 We further wish to point out that there is no consistency in recom. mending, or any value to be received, by the people now using Dunning Field to have "replacement land larger than the land lost" if such replacement land were at or near Midway Stadium, McMurray.Field, Harriet Island or in the Rice - Arlington area. Such replacement land would further place a burden upon those people who now have to travel many miles to use Dunning especially the children who now walk or use bicycles to reach there. This too could involve a safety factor regard- ing children. While this letter is being sent to state Softball Board action, our Board also joins in with all the other sports groups using Dunning in asking it be maintained intact. We also speak for the countless number of children and adults who live in the Dunning area who have expressed to our Board Members their desire that we include them in our expression. Sinc 71 ely yours, I� f.. Q� eorge L. eleniak President, St. Paul Municipal Softball Assn. lit 11111 ti1 \TED BY 1'I I I It".1'MlF]•I\, 1i \It11, I\( r-A ITY OF SAINT PAUL Capital of Minnesota Z June 5, 1963 To Whom It May Concern: C BUILDINGS Re: Concordia College proposal to purchase part of Dunning Field Much interest has been generated as a result of the publicity emanating from the proposal of Concordia College to purchase a portion of Dunning Field. My purpose in this letter is to enlighten those who apparently have received much misinformation on this matter, as evidenced by the mail both Mayor Vavoulis and I have received, much of which contains mistaken ideas and inaccurate information. This office was approached by the officials of Concordia College with the pro- posal that they be permitted to lease or to purchase that portion of Dunning Field lying west of Griggs Street. This comprises an area of approximately seven and a half acres, and is the westerly one -third of that portion of the complex which comes under the jurisdiction of the Parks and Recreation De- partment, or one -fifth of the total complex. The easterly two - fifths contains Central High School, Central Stadium, and a parking area adjacent thereto. Presently Dunning Field serves primarily as a major athletic field for the City of St. Paul, minutely'as a neighborhood playground. The neighborhood activity is predominantly wintertime use for skating activities, with summer- time softball activity on a semi - organized basis for the community in the hours when the highly organized adult leagues do not prevail. The central portion which would remain, should a sale be consummated to Concordia College, presently contains a completely - fenced baseball field with grandstand in the central portion; on the Rondo Freeway side exists a single lighted softball field- -the only one in the City of St. Paul -- presently equipped with no room for expansion and no room for parking, which is a necessity for adult partici- pation. The southern portion of the area which would remain consists of four hardtop tennis courts and four clay courts, as well as a set of shuffle- board courts. Concordia College borders Dunning Field on the west at Syndicate, and on the north by Carroll Avenue, extending thence along Griggs Street to the Rondo Street freeway. i I -2- Re: Dunning Field 6/5/63 My first reaction to the proposal by Concordia College was negative; and following later meetings I determined that a lease to the College for that portion would be of no value to the city, and that a sale would be the only means of the city's securing sufficient money for replacement. The college has a justified claim to adding area, for various reasons. (1) Their athletic field of some five acres was condemned and taken for freeway purposes on the north side of the school. (2) Concordia has just this year become accredited as a four -year liberal arts college, and therefore expects a doubling of its student body in the next eight years. Their board has purchased land to the southwest, which will become the site of their Junior Academy (high school). They are further ac- quiring property directly south of their campus across Marshall Avenue for dormitory use, and shall continue to enlarge their holdings for that purpose. Their Athletic Department was granted the use of that portion of Dunning Field which they now seek to acquire, by Commissioner Holland in 1958. They seek to acquire ownership to better schedule their inter- scholastic activities in advance, and also to "square off" the campus with the athletic area that is needed for accreditation. One of the duties of an elected official is to "hear out" citizens and their problems. I have done so, in first listening to the problems of the college, and second, determining whether the city can consider a land transfer with a justified replacement. Having found that the college has made available the funds for the outright purchase on a completely businesslike basis, following appraisals by private valuation experts as well as the city Valuation Engineer. With that sum of money, other open land can be purchased and developed in which the end result would undoubtedly double or treble the area and facilities and therefore provide a newer, larger and better major city athletic field in the western half of the city. Only under these conditions have I been willing to continue further study on this matter. This policy, I am certain, is concurred in by all of the citizens of the City of St. Paul, whether they be recreation - minded or not, and should put an end to such statements as some contained in letters wherein the city officials are being accused of dissipating the recreational facilities that now exist. With much planning, we have found that the re- location of this major athletic field would better serve our citizens in that the facilities could be expanded, with provisions for adequate parking (a necessity for the so- called "beer leagues" and senior municipal athletic functions). The remaining acreage at Dunning Field would then better adapt itself to community use, primarily for the young children. I have been active in this area all of my adult life, and one of the greatest cries I heard as a P. T. A. recreation chairman was that "my children cannot play on Dunning Field because it is full of grown -ups. " With the moving and doubling of lighted softball fields elsewhere, and the 1 • -3- Re: Dunning Field 6/5/63 elimination of the fence which presently sets aside the major central portion of Dunning Field for exclusive use for commercial games, and games at which admission is charged, to a new location, the field can be re- designed to excellent community use. Even with the retention of the fenced baseball field, our designers have, with prudent planning, laid out five new softball fields for the remaining area, and have planned a new shelter building which would service the new skating and hockey area, as well as the tennis and shuffleboard court participants. The remaining clay courts would be black - topped. As a replacement, two major areas of sizeable acreage are under considera- tion. One is the 16 -acre tract on Snelling Avenue west of the Midway Stadium. This is owned by the city, and was purchased in anticipation of overflow park- ing, if major baseball came to Midway Stadium. Portions of that tract are presently used by the Minnesota Highway Department for stockpiling and con- struction storage in connection with the widening of Snelling Avenue. This would take that area out of consideration for approximately a year and a half to two years, but it could, however, be developed into one or more baseball fields and up to seven softball fields, two of which would be lighted for night- time use, with a 150 -car parking area. Should this location become a reality, an agreement would be reached whereby Concordia College would not take possession of the desired portion of Dunning Field until the highway construc- tion is completed or, Snelling Avenue and the site is available for public recreational use. Another suggested site of even greater size is at the northeast corner of Rice and Arlington. This location, containing four city blocks (22-1/2 acres), has been leveled in preparation for commercial development, and would require very little engineering and preparation prior to its being placed in use. This area could easily contain three baseball fields and seven softball fields, and from the standpoint of the participation counts taken in the organized leagues, would be ideally located, as the bulk of the participants reside in the Rice. Dale North area. Under consideration- -and preliminary studies indicate economic feasibility- - is the much - needed development of a new playground area in the more west- erly portion of St. Paul. This our engineers have explored, and layouts have been made which would permit an area in Merriam Park of sufficient size to contain three ball fields. This would be useable by the students of St. Marks and Longfellow schools, and with the later condemnations of several older homes, would be connected with the Longfellow School as an educational - recreational complex in an area not presently served by recrea- tional facilities. Sufficient land would remain between these ball fields and -4- Re: Dunning Field 6/5/63 the freeway at Prior and St. Anthony Avenues to locate a neighborhood public swimming pool in the near future. This complex would greatly enhance the Merriam Park community, and has long been a necessity for that area. Ten years ago, I recollect, a great storm arose when then Parks Commissioner Halvorson (to whom I served as Deputy Commissioner) made a similar move, whereby he permitted the Shiely Company to remove millions of yards of gravel from the present McMurray Field, which at that time contained only four ball fields. The ball players were up -in -arms that they lost their facilities. How- ever, a year later they had ten beautiful ball fields, of which the city is ex- tremely proud, completely graded, seeded, sodded and ready for use - -all at the expense of the Shiely Company, with a surplus of $50, 000 with which Commissioner Halvorson erected the only black - topped tennis courts that have been made available to the city. I would not like to be accused ten years from now of having been too short - sighted to see the potentialities of "giving up a little to gain a lot. " I repeat that it is my conviction that no part of Dunning Field be given up to Concordia College or anybody else until a suitable replacement is found, and funds derived from the sale are made available for its development. Sincerely yours, Frank L. Loss Commissioner of Parks and Recreation and Public Buildings 1 i 1.. .:>v,:'•t :;i ; e;, ts+ 9j ..} r ^•b a ► r.....' s f i ; k e `} . 'i "aa� i'3 � A. �.. # .,a v r t. l,�+77: • ;'::.f 3 : : ^t s i is ut�:: +� s ' a :.;r1' :i s -i:t #. 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In interscholastic sports, the field is used all fall and spring. 4. We are very crowded for baseball. I Baseball - not I Maximum - 50 Boys used for physical education. If the west area is sold, 100 more students of physical education I will be added to this area which 40 will sake an adequate program Girls or impossible. I ooys f Tennis instructs n. 40 Girls 40 Girls Lighted Softball Field hockey Softball Field Marching Relays Archery Not used for physical education. I Your Honor, Members of the City Council, and Ladies and Gentlemen: My name is William J. Ivory, my position is Athletic Director of the Catholic Athletic Association of St. Paul, and I represent the CAA and would like to make the position of the CAA known at this hearing and the reasons for this position. The CAA is now, has been, and will continue to be opposed to the sale of any portion of Dunning Field to Concordia College or anyone else, for that matter, for many reasons. Here are just a few: 1. Contrary to the viewpoint of Mr. Frank Loss, Commissioner of Parks and Playgrounds, this area in question is used quite extensively by the boys and girls in the CAA program, in particular those attending St. Luke, Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Columba, and St. Mark Schools. Mr. Loss has stated in a recent letter that (and I quote) "Presently Dunning Field serves primarily as a major athletic field for the City of St. Paul, minutely as a neighborhood playground." Evidently Mr. Loss has not taken the time to check Dunning as recently as this past month of May, when on any Tuesday or Thursday he would have seen the baseball fields named Dunning #1, Dunning #3, and Dunning #7 used simultaneously by CAA teams from St. Mark, St. Luke, St. Columba, and Immaculate Heart of Mary teams. In addition to the games being played on these fields, Dunning #4 is used AT THE SAME TIME, by the St. Paul City High School Conference, and the - remaining fields at Dunning covered by boys and girls playing their own brand of baseball - unorganized but nevertheless using the facilities. THIS ACTIVITY (except the High School game on Dunning #4) occured almost every Tuesday and Thursday in April, May, and early June, and the boys and girls participating were those youngsters living right in the area around Dunning Field. Hardly what I would call "minute neighborhood activity." Throw in the countless number of practices that are necessary to the teams in our CAA leagues held at Dunning throughout the baseball season, and I am sure that Mr. Loss would find anything but a "minute" use of the facilities at Dunning. And, I repeat, by those boys and girls living immediately in the Dunning neighborhood. 2. The baseball fields at Dunning (three fields counting Dunning #7, which is really a softball field but because of the limited number of fields is used for baseball; and excluding Dunning #4 which requires a $10.00 rental fee) are the ONLY BASEBALL FIELDS (suitable for a baseball game) in the area bounded by Minnehaha Ave. (north) , Lexington Ave. (east) Summit Ave. (south) and the Mississippi River (west). Two of the three areas Mr. Loss suggests for relocation (and these suggestions contain several "if's ") are not included in this area at all, and the third - Merriam Park - would serve only those children in the westerly portion 'of this area. Again, several "if's" are cpnnected wmtli the Merriam Park project, as this land has been dedicated as Park Land, not playground land, which is still another obstacle that would have to be removed before anything could be done there. So, the net,result of relocating the fields at Dunning somewhere else would be the loss of the baseball fields in an area that is already very much under- provided for. I am sure that everyone would like to see the proposed new recreation area a reality, but not at the cost of losing what we ' already have, little as it is. 3. The so- called "bowl" at Dunning Field used in the winter as public skating facilities by children and grown -ups alike in the Dunning area provides an excellent natural skating facility because of the topography of the land. Relocating this skating rink to an elevated section of Dunning would be a considerable waste of land naturally suited to flooding for skating purposes, and, I am sure, considerably more expensive to establish and maintain each skating season., r 4. Mr. Loss cites the loss of some land by Concordia College to the new high- way projects as a justified reason for Concordia's claim to the land at Dunning. Many, in their support of this claim, say that Concordia needs the land for athletic area. How many have been told that Concordia now has land just West of the school buildings, upon which are two baseball fields, and several other athletic courts? We have been told that Con - cordid College would like to erect buildings on this land now being used for athletic purposes, which would leave them without any athletic area. Now then, let us see what is really happening. Concordia College already has an athletic area, and needs more land for buildings. They cannot build on the Dunning area (according to the terms of the proposition made by Dr. Poeler at the City Council meeting some weeks ago), so what the College really wants to do is build on its present'athletic area and seek a new site for its physical education activities. As I see it, this is just a trading of land. For all intents and purposes, the College might just as well erect its buildings on the Dunning site, and leave its athletic field as is. This would make more sense. 5. As a private, tax °paying citizen, I ask Mr. Loss how much money has been offered for the site with°the price Conco Department condemned not public enough so going 'on. in question, and how does this offered price compare rdia College received for its land when the Highway it? The figures have not been made public - at least that the commom, everyday tax payer knows what is 6. It has been stated - perhaps not officially - but still stated, that the present facilities at the enclosed field - Dunning #4, would be removed. Evidently the Commissioner is unaware of the fact that this field, its stands, fence, dugouts, etc., were paid for through the efforts of thou- sands of boys and girls all over the city who stood on street corners with donation cans on days specified as "Baseball Tag Day ". I myself was one ' t of these who participated in this project as a player on several Municipal teams while a youngster, and speaking for myself, I would hate to see the result of my own and several thousands of others go down the drain because of political chicanery. 7. In support of his stand, Mr. Loss concludes that there was a great storm of protest ten years ago when Commissioner Halvorson negotiated with the Shiely Company resulting in the facilities now known as McMurray Field. Mr. Loss states that the net result was ten fields - indicating that he does not even know how many fields are at McMurray, as there are in fact twelve softball fields and two baseball fields.... Another area in which Mr. Loss has made a statement without checking into the facts. In summary, I repeat that the Catholic Athletic Association is definitely opposed to the sale of any part of Dunning Field to ANY person, group, or organization, for the above mentioned reasons. We are definitely in favor of the expansion of what limited facilities the City of St. Paul now has, but-not at the cost of these already over - burdened recreation areas. It is ironic that the loss of these facilities is being proposed by Commissioner Frank Loss. y June II, 1963 Honorable George Vavoulis Mayor, St. Paul, Minnesota Dear Sir: At.a recent meeting of the Como Park Improvement Club, a motion' was passed that our"club go on record opposing the sale of any part of Dunning Field to Concordia College. We are short of playground area in St. Paul as it is. Every evening in the softball season all available diamonds at Dunning are in use. It seems to us that the recreational needs of the people of St. Paul will be sharply curtailed is this sale is allowed. We urge you to use your influance to -save Dunning Field for our citizens. Sincerely yours, John W. Ivory Sr., President Como Park Improvement Club J l - _ } •r ,. - _ , ' - - : -, ,' ?✓ .. -Y_. _ . I, .t ' JJune 1] , 1963 .. -t. . Z. `George. Yavoui�s and Commissioners FRAM: Ray G..`Kgbc -, - P.resident'Muriicipal dhiateur Ba6eball.Association A readi,n� of Commissioner Frank Loss' 'Informative. letter of,, June 5, 1963 'egarda ng the proposal' to. purchase a portion of Dunning Field indicates that Concordia -College has a problem and also every• " - , right to;endeavor. its Isolution: However;; I should like_ to express;` • - •these thoughts as the repriesentatiye o the $t._ Paul Municipal. - "Amateur Has4all. Association � - Althou h concern.:now -is not ,that a precedent may be- pet • - `'' my p y- = for' the future iri the sale `of similar properties- to• private interests., this possibility must be, kept in mind. - There is'eufficient e�t�derice "froze the Play rQUnd Department t� -� to-support the - claim`'that`Du.rin Field. has extensive use throughout - t the year: ,- naturally this 'same widespread ' se would not occur tailh •` . ' they reduction , of the play area, Dunning Field' facilities have' been = available, to ;and'used by • Concordia• College.: This ,arrangement can contiriiie: The use of- Midway " Stadium by Concorclia .College.',. ii6Ud .prove far less costly'than the ,erection of- a s.tadiiim with i1mited use,. ' To prpperly considex�.Cohcordi' proposal, -the fulrf cost- ' structure. must _be - known• and ,analyzed. This Rould'include the,�evalua.. - _ tion. of this west; section of .Dunning Field, and th6 cost of aequiri"T .` and developing - cbmparable space elsewhere., "'The loss -of a,contraily `located play and athletic facility would be- 'rightfully contested by the tam paying public: ° - ' is thQ - estimated cost: of .improying. the sixteen acre tract on Snelling Avenue =west. bf Mid_Way Stadium? •2s. this a suitable. location for neighborhood play , in that it .is ,not ' in a 'popula•ted. section of the city? 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Relays I I Int.0mural football This field also used and softball use this f for interscholastic field. { "B" football and basebal�, Central "A" squad football practice, and Iintramural softball. I I — -Tark Building — Conclusions 1. For physical education we are already crowded. 2. Unless activities are dovetailed and some youngsters stay inside, we cannot carry on a proper program. 3. In interscholastic sports, the field is used all fall and spring. 4. We are very crowded for baseball. Baseball - not I Maximum - 50 Boys used for physical education. I If the west area is sold, 100 more students of physical education will be added to this area which 40 will make an adequate program Girls or , impossible. Tennis instruct 40 Girls Field hockey Marching I 40 Girls Softball I Belays I Lighted Softball Field Archery Not used for Iphysical education. I 7o-' `,'r ' i' f-rr , • � ;� -r ' :. _. 'r _ `' - _ ne � - _ . ., •� �. _ .. , •,' ` .. .. `r. _ •' '. i • "+1_T ... .' � ♦ .. • '• .. • Y-.. _ 1, .f J }'. Your _{ozQri Mambei^e'of the C3ity ,Cauncil� _arid Ladleg ai1d Gentlemen: _ F Y .My' •nam 4L 'Ii ,,a�n 7: Ivory a,. my pos3t3on4ls ` thl01c DU oetot' +�P, .tom OathoU Ath :eti .�#s oa3ation rifYSt."Vau�, and Y'_ resenti the :C - ci �vouldA, I a',to m'ke- Y. # risi "t�;orx.`Q 'the CAA _kn�wri' at- this bwtr hg'_zm tho, reason -14r h 'd -posi'tiori. The CAIi , nti , bpp�ead tip is mow-, rhas been riw1 ri]o - the`' sle of` Qny portion of _pui Field ' to C;Qneor"a ' C. ol�.ege. dr anyone e3se,� for that N- ' matter',.` for M, &my,4,reas6ns.. , Here are ji t a fews' ,. yr_ ;.. - . -'._ i. •• 'i J ,=1 - �k.' ` 1 ' : •` �' '• '• ' � . . ' - ` s' '- -`i .,. . 4' �:." CQntrai�y -.to. tha. viewp ir�t of Mfr ra�nk•tosa',• orMnies9or� �r .oi P4rkrs' and y,r ,:...• t'. :,. :.�`= F •� _.• s, :. :. ', .;i �. t <<�,�' i,.g :!'.i w "�_'8h. i')'�{ •�, =,+� y' *L.`•' +: y - :s ,, _ Y•• t., mayg2'i3�]i1619,' this ':area gue t�OlT'3g�`t1B iv-441f6 e9GG :QTR V�Z.y by i� fJilyB A;4 girls Ire° ,they ,C r 'ro In Pattie these stter�diii� $� s' U*e program, a - •'�' ' , - - In - ! - .� t ^ . ^I ys �� Yf `. % ,• :l . ..i •� •. � ,N _; _" _ , -, - +.�'. ' ` =_ Immaoaate' _Heart cti, IMa : ` Columba; � and, fit: M rik t SGhoola his' :4 y _ ... _. ' stated'IW. a . teeent; latter, that' aril -�I'; �iictKta _.Q rasentl t, Du- nn srvee: pri mar3ly` �i a •; sir' �athlat g "i`ield ' for the • iffy of 5t ,. }'Paul„ -i 'F' - < ' -J _ _ y'•.:_:�. ,r 'lcj,'r' _ .mot i .Fc,}• c- '�` _- - _ filriutely ae .a •ne �r�rorid�pl ©y roux A. :",iEuide`x tiiq •Mr.e -Loss .hams nod token " , i a - o a #y , A _._ - _ ti. •, r. ' -.__ _r..<<_,a+., -: •,_t.i4 xf Ya,,re.::.` ��y.p c.i:� ` - 'per" - tha iiu_ e fib, `c` tuin�'es ` u1 're o [aY,iack ' F . " any 'Tueeday''or,. Thursday hq, would, ha" 'i en tke =. ba�.I, field named : - t .(. �. ,+ . +yr 1 .f ,b.•r •f r, Y' '-i j4�� }'` = }lf.l..r .i!• y'x. .. • _ ct• ,• . , °Dn?in ` lei r ir$ ` $ ; 7 iee A teaml `_ ; �r��... E'ut +° '�rk,'•._$t .a, itl�C$ � 1 �'. t' i "�O�.LBItb$;.:l:�d , YfiR�'l,'�.A�R `-'� @A�.`t' Off' '��'y ..f.'f»A1i1�.; -' - V. ' n gdciltidn `to' the $,�nae8' S@fn$,; ilpl ed rya° the$@ ' 3o1d ,Dunning #4,<is• u8ed . AT' THE' SAME TINIC� by the` Sfi . ?'ati�i`.0 jr 11ig"h $6ht�ol "Conferee tend; fih -af J, r$(tAl7n$ 't'lelds at :Ucxnning cured "by Hoye "and: `gifil�s,;p3 $yang t}ie3r Own : , r t= ,b imi 'qf b ea iatl -- o n3: `ed 'mutt 'nevertrieless n+�3ng the �1h_ el ' . tiin� ng #�) Ccu ed a TH19L-ATTV Hi 0i School id ' overt' Tuesday aim lowrit ay: rr3l,, i'fia�,, and -- 'eery► Ju�ieti and''th ;soya airli rle`' psrtic iafi ng "wry those ° oungsters Aivlrt� right: 3.0 the area :eie nzac . _ ....,. ` . V ' akuiT$`_ seld: O11t tt • mtita; l }borhd 'vity. -: Throw } 3fl' the countless. ntiinbe, -praQtice - hat _areE negessa�ry to'•tl,' teetndt V •� . :i 'bis - ,seo�oh,,-and' I,amr,,su CAA, held s fihrohthe r w _ =c �t- ' "�.' -.. �`j� •4M1i,,. � t�a�..`=, - .r,f 1,. -i�, °, x.. ., y.. .." tee• • -• `� `� -`- :!'ky7 :. - _ c � • _ .r_ '?. - - ` . ,; tit Iat .. J *� - T„ .- 1 < - . _sure that 4 Loas, -.'4 -ulna 'fine ' iUiy' thirng, -bud a "1ni ute" use of the, facilities. ` ^' :t �tnni:" d�` .r+at;�_by``t4�e'bQYe end -girls -1ivg' lnedf4ely :the •Dubnina neigh ;"'E 5' ••t:_ _ `" • 'r.; v . t ..r �' f. ,. •.K_ "¢ ,may x'. 47w t �- _' - •' - , /mot } _ _ 9. 'The.' habeSal_ ` weds_ t Durin3 ig. (three,'• fields:'eountii%g Dmn3rig.. #7` 'real y a' _ softball - field Xit:'- beciaum of .t_bO ��itn�tedi `number ,of.,fiej .3e� need `for ' beseba].l. -'aria gxolusiitig AWnin '*4,Wh oY� regiiir4 X10 cab' r64-il foe_) are ;T`HE 'UN'LY 'H1�18EBALL IE%,�3` ` (aui able . for. s hasebaal�: g+ )- 3n he, area 4pofide4 , by Wftehaha' Ave � * (north), ;. Lex�:ngfion A� = Surrmi :Ave: �eciuth tend that �3'asasia�spp1v®r .'(wept) 3tva : of the terse Ar*a p_ Mr. 'Loss Bugg at fo f tluoatior (�nd''fi�ieee suggest ou 'coati :. ,seVera. "� f's� -- are 'rt6tAQidednr `chis� di^ea ; �i E' a�.l sand 'the+ Merriatri' pair - , w pad �4s rva�� 4!riiY - t'tios � rhiidren •3n the s f ' , y ' �qr j 4 - _ wditi t on. of YF ' � '" � r � ', i `,� tat. 4 4ti _ ♦ _ - - � , }' r _. . _ ari Y 7 �►a . ` : 'sf t e ioihnepte_dwit_ h tbia'::Merrl4m `�arre �►ri�.- cJTI'l - 1. •' . ! ♦- `� -:'., -Yf • af. '. .ff „''.�`_'�'�, ;° '_ _ . -- t -.4 Y ;.j ar >.. _ .. -i - •i_ =' jset; -.,se this -1arisl has: bee! dedtee*ed ::is`.8ric. l�tiid wh'+� i$ . st�til-_ an4hea� obata� ale that `aioiii],a, Y#awa {t;be'.rusved. be£oe anythin_ooutLbe dvntifrlare':. -' Ilk • =o, . the result of relbcati3ri. -the xigaad ''at .�iir�ri3n ' a omewh'. .+k1, _ _ .. L. .. ' �"''`.. +.. -fir _, r.?•..,. :�• ;�'`�.',;' } #y- �'`,_, ,n7,•; " ';. ;. _ - -`. _ -= ' #.wauld__b_� tha ;loss' of .Elda�A t- g� _,atea :that- 3e,a4y, very- ; t; v , Y rtluc unc]er»pro+vi ed i'or « T ate; s ii h t ever rdne , wpaa� like .1 y.. "rr _ .� .. _ _i + -.._.' • ,j,,t.1 r• tY'!l i •' `4" `•a .[ +•r *- `• •. ..r prop ©eed iea re�keatib � i� a .. �e � t r^A ` it not rat Vfihe ''es�at'. off` lo_ a3'ri_ g "'what,,- .rgrq 4y 'gave', j the : ass' .It 16",,: Ya ', ,!« Tt�e' e>v 5= o$ 1.1et1;:�'pi+ti~atj3iig3ed''ittd •the 'to into r;ats liuiilic:eka�ttiig by ,ehltdrei� .ahii +' owr =ups 410e' 3n -the. D�ir► iin 'ai^ea _ptrow dge an - ' ox"�l lint ,t -4rai - ekati�z ,f_ a6slity - bk6aoe` .of the to66&►a&- of; the. ladcl j �' • . F xt� t ifg, tl• a <s &at ng 'r1nk'to " an ` ilovaAt+eaa� seCtion'';pfr Dut_ning would' it = 'tip S • T` 6dns d able"- �ia$Li o 1ar#ci '�netusa� y $_ ui�ted t� f .00ding for skating purpasse;' .anti, 1 am- ✓sure-,- `carief_dex�ably,:more exp iwe to eetablieh € i1cl x' _ Y Vii- y. .,.,. •• y Y ^ s In eAch skating rseatson i tot iii _ _ °r . :. _ _ _ j'•. - .} _' �1•• -, y _ j "MJ ` .�'' � - _ - .. x`- ]1 ,`.t._� _;- a 1. • -a •'r ., -._- _ „i t1 .�• i , +'. r..s F•�k1 - e4 -,`_ • - '•• I _v: " ,f4, f ., I' - • 'i` A +.J , Cosa a tes the" does f• same' nil` bpi : on Prd a Col peg a tl e n v h g i� `_ tiea pYyo e;cte 'i 's a, -. tistif, ed: reason br 'C a card a ls a 3ni, t ' the v }Cflncoi�cl�a . , • Dunr ng. Many; im therir ".support 'of thidO 'claim',_ivq� t]44t •�ie�eda land for "athletito area: ,}tow m iy ,hove, bedh --tO1d 'th-%t _ Concorci�%a::naw t _ sb t u m awb�his arid:. ust be o•, j:he'se lelde �Q. }iave, ieeri' �tild that �reord3n, - ' Col aou d `x3,1 e3 ••ta °erect .bt �tYdirTga' on thie �.anil now, -beug ;ra ea-, -Qr, ' YC _`ae]t1�t3e' pZu 'ppses #'.w��leh,Woo3d- �Qa�teJ them t�ithc�u` air `,afihlt'ie 'area.' 'rNc - z r_t. Tr, { -''.,. M..' �• .' L :-,'` than.,' "lets #3e. see what la 'seall� bk Ow [n ;' -�Cdhcotdie dollege e1wetkft ,has' =y ' eY:., athi®tict` area, a d needle mope rand-.for bulldin�s'.. Th cgniaot;bu3ld f-ai S •Ir • .'- • -'. r ,. `, ...- ` ...rp�Y-_ ♦• a. ,t- l: `'' _ uL_• 'i � , :.e.' .'IT" ,• ♦ ^s,'• , -r' '., -, .,. . rt i d the .Dunn a ;,:� cc�ar�i izgr o er-terms` .� e�i�apaeit�si�r.`roacle by pry �," C �otuiei�, ��tieetin:;is a�eeke a o so ai ait_`tha•. Goo lee : ' , Pie�lrat .the i'Ey g .` .` a ., , _•r• •_' {� _ ..._ a '.'r - • -•.t •• •n• r•, - '� +r, F _ •t to, ,da, 5 br �.iti_ 0t i.Iia ` Pt�die- athle' do area, �aad ' ei�k 'A new.; _ sit $ te phyaeati`}leeeaton.aet'fi3ea";: ,,'.l'Isee:, it; t1,ie8'_ duet a ,_ ? ; ` = ndupoee he Co��cad3r€ `ltad'.� zFr *tents.- 130 s ° well ere_et ; , ieiildiri s tin -`t Llkini� x1 'B tee; end ea va; it6 at le - .• -1-/ .,7F, .+ •' •+ •.;,. - .,?~ ki. _•; •,•-'r .- 'r,., .rzG ':s'• + *�� xr'ta'-'�- +,�.a''i"4�; .• ,; T. , __ - _ .� 1'hie' would; `acne <•'': z= z.. _ °' `• >k , tn+�ica t d - ,. -' private, tax vifi3�eri,• I` nek Mr '`Lose h�:`mut `tenet':�had'.beeni7 _payir>tg €hexed for the ;site in `giQBttiri. anc htyw : dQe$ this,, qt -eseil -price - omplra° ; r ` ,.. _ n .a ':ti: :f: - •et' . .bP... . .y {r ^•�'f _ i - .., i••, ' W#1 thg; -price Cpncord :ei Gi lle a "received `for 'it lan d `wrien' th Highway '� _ 5.. ' • Departmeen t', eoa�demiied `lt?' i° e':: g Yea :ht�va` tjo t )ii. MAc e • r�ti]�i �'' a leea,t .'. _ _ ` not ; publiLQ- ei�ou#h so; that -,the : =Cotmon 'everyday, tax .payer:kpws' :,. ,.., 'rF ' „ TF .,,, it' - _ h•' L,, _ t . � t ,' r • _ ?t. •, ` •_,� +� 0`!�• - ,. L it - - ,. • •y. - - y_- -� - � -� •' 'It_.ha'e bad- statear= not�.pfficiajly -.' ='but et�ll_.stqted;` t�et fhe ;perhaps` ' foci l ^losed-fleid' - , #4, W,04 d be remvi. :n .. ' Evidently: -the ioner'Ja uhdware of *tht, fset �that`t'h �,Xie d; 'Its - _ stark s fence * augi�ute;, etc., +, were, - paid 'fbr' 'throiigh'.;the °effQJ s of thou.. = , - -SiAnds, Of, and sgirls'!!- l �Q4 thel + l,i� lofio st6cjd2,oh ~'street; with - -d6 natlon' dens on ,days 4pecifleil^yai ;' selialL, Tag D, YIT. ` 'I: myself Waisf '-, 7 TrC' . •s _ it \. - - � •' _ '. �' - r ' -i} "' _ L ;" ' - -, h -_ . - -, ©rte. 4 •thus whfr iartiei et d Sit Jt i p je# - ad a gYa ier iOri ve a 1,' Mutd 1, l - teams ' Will a youngster, _sand �spe'ak n :Asir Myael�':, , Z gild° hate, 1 ., .• ,� - -, tea• .y _ __� . , _ . _`,� - � ' , •., . -•; _.. ,�_. ,.. •: __ +_ ... �. to "see' thiq "iagidi ;.of m ''own; and _save": 'thotiise�nds o�- `othere go dawn then b becauae'.6 f' pQ itica , vh3cene - -9' 0- support of ihia =`$xi id ' Mr. Loda.'conclt e ' hit 'there wss 'a .g t eta iit� ,' z _ . .•'•- 1:'µ --'L t.•t ,.1 "`'" �• '`. .r -• l._'' . -f;., .'•'!•• ; .` ww!`,. : - "•'_ e•` '' -. 4'. T .ii .. bf p. otesfi eA yews sago wh$n ��Mm esloner:`Halvprsvrr tieg ©tist� with h3ely PCompany result3n . i the'f'aeil: es ",now kti�c vri Via, I Murray FTeld. ._ it Loss tatea that'the_riet resulk i s `'tealt. f e--do =,tic bat;tn cities ` xi ©t ,.eve_n' kna�:it3ri ' may l :fislch '� ire; at, trurargy, a,8 - there ` >ai ;in `felt. a y', twelve:: eto tiiail' fie its, end _ tWo -'baeeball €j el -do.. ,► `. r,Ahother_ - .O-ea in- Lwhich. Loss` hail rude a. 0tatemeiit without' °etxeek3»g ate the `€�ie.t$ t• ; - 1n. stk mart', T repent, that th .C.a►thtrlici. _ #thletic J�sd6clat3oi - o defin_�te1y_ h • y.. vppoee , to thet sale oi' any part Ikutn .Field trq ANY pe�rspia'� *grt�up.s on - .fi .. -, 5. ..-k a' L ,.i•.• • , �. .t :,,, ,: '' ` - ; t,' y- .• .F' it :, v . q.. v. �,.- w` : `.t" ,- .. f' • v , ' '�',{ or�ariiint3c xi fcir •the' move ; n i�tio e , �►eas�ins '- - ai�e' defini ply: 3� ~- igwor. of i5 _ ' i� Y t�. - C.• - ••t• Yn . +. .,il.• •ti us - • •�. _ t M1 the':ex�ansion of what'fimted farili,t'e `the "Cit�%;b;° Fa. 'riciw, hae';R%ut`not: i at the etis ' 'of these heady o b re v n a, a firer- ti ne$ "� at3l zt rea Zt'ie iroil�:e'th t.the. 'bf the e; facil#iee` t# 2ie3ri pros jtisec ,by - -; ommi s oner Vrank Loss i n . . v�: `•.1r' T „_s. ^I1L" "4 t' „� -tr- M° x: sz ry L.t - .i .z - _ -•� z r +f •' ' '4� _, ..'•' '.• <. i ,r'' 1• _ •4 �q1' `.5. ,. , ��\' S� l` F' . 4• „•.i' , `!, `Pa. -` • .) J. ` �;`! 4 - _.• 'sae - {; •s � ';i 4_ :;.;1t'- _ '. r ` . ' yr' ,” °,�,; .: ' - .' ', »:: _ '. . .;. - _: : -; - .. r,• • - _ - x,wc.; - y}•r It r; ` s��: `d • ,_ 1, `_ Yv •j',S .•'; ,i *�,: L. r;: „ _ • "i.. ° - }, ,. a - ._ ,v'-t_ '`,11 -'�;r : _w - ,- •{ � ems,_ • .r, ' ' !' , ,n . :" .S.}lY .1 L • _ '+T` .r, wY•. , ..4 >4•J' - `./"t 's•. . i -f, ,. •'' ':• �f ' •f +'_ * - . v - t!- M Cara- .. • - ,_a r , ,M zi ' .. i I- . . • -.. A • • • I w - t•t • . - r • , i ,y ,•" ' •M1+ - a't ` { } _ _ n _ ol, IN 7 W Ji Georghxavouj and .1 fla�,or '6 BSioneoj dl bci4 FROM;_:_ 0 Pre A e�t, --ktilici moc'k tj��Yj-: p-, -ea of. cbmBjj 60iQn o to ive l btt i, of-,�, hihe'5 1963 regarding the pr5po6al J6 putohgse.i pbrt�oh -of. Di b 0 -:Field indibAtOi- t4at condordig 'Coilege, has and t.a. so-'eyet7, shbuld, press,., ght" 11&6vbj� fik --to�'e'ndeav6r.JAs e .,.tQ - ex 6p tat'. ye, o�$hf of- t�6,,Sc,;�Paul-lfun rese4 �r� Ail Base -"% , ,, 4mateur b91X1. o A -1 -,6pncem, i0tf is- 'not - 4L p rerced6nt e set S, ,iri t rue be -!�e iii -nd this nus. 't there -jac the!.: laygro ftd-, epax. ici n evJ 01 -0 1) , f PA :to'mipp6tt the ol4ift ext wing' nold lk4� -eji ive%u 6 • tbY"- Ahat:, S ou r this '• 1A 000dr with -aA' ` t�& mide�spiie use-vou 0 A t3,60 have Dui�hing Fi-eld.'faci 0 and used.by't 'of mi4wq .0 -7r, I 't or 'a ar.r4gjgomeftt con e. -;-TheJtde c, at 6ociota-ii "Colle 6, 1h. wed pravb '1696-coptjy=,.�han the a jectiorl '61 , :stadiums -With , 0: prop e r _y,_c,6:n3iO;e r C6n a' s proposal'Ahe 1 -.0,08t _ Struci� ie; wit- be- land arialyz 'ibis 3roujd,indlfxd& the evLi.�, :ilbp -,'this iiebt -'sdat oa •)diinir;f Field wind the"i"bi'ost gc qu�ri ,an ve1ppi S_ootpar co elsewhere; T), .play t d tho bli, IC—OAL e ak.'payj� "K -PLU -'What 'J,.s.-th& batimijitect,,cost of imptqqjn _t 0A-S;1 gta�A617'_' li' iixiq 1#bl' t16 -0 eixte6n raq a S� f Ot edgfibo in, thA - U t r46pd,ipltLy- s no ry,a pop - -a ed ddation of'-,the, d ,better 1�e �ojd-Tbr� 9 q6mmerci,6LfxL$6' ai� 'loc4t -reQre&tior- b h - ' ' t :` " - i as6d 6r 5 consi .4crea-wn 'm V16uld it bo� iii a t(5 der'cit�� de, prove, Pell i r t -�eki ba _Oiton� thie Oropo6aI: s t�dj ark' '3%_0 t' a could bo 16�i6aly cpds!Vderad IC pi. 14 % GROUP SERVICES AND RECREATION COUNCIL 400 Wilder Building St. Paul 2, Minnesota CA. 2.0311 EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MRS. JOHN EARL CHAIRMAN MR. GERALD FOWLS MR. HAROLD MORDH MR. GEORGE E. ROSCOE VICE CHAIRMEN MRS. ULRIC SCOTT MR. B R. TEIG MR. W. ILLIAM WEST MEMBERS -AT -LA RG E MR. GORDON E. JERECZEK SECRETARY May 24, 1963 6 The Honorable George J..Vavoulis Mayor of the City of Saint Paul 347. City — County Building Saint Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Mayor Vavoulis: �'kLl�., ,MrpflI�11, OFFICE M1AY 2 71963 �M The Executive Committee of the Group Services and Recreation Council, Greater St. Paul United Fund and Council, Inc., at a special meeting,held on May 24,_1963, considered the situation relative to the possible sale or lease of a portion of Dunning Field to Concordia College., and took the following unanimous action: „The Executive Committee being interested in the ,provision of an adequate recreational program for the citizens of St. Paul, and aware of the very limited facilities in that part of the City effected, and also aware of the tremendous need and useage of Dunning Field by the public, hereby recommends the retention and preservation of all present Dunning Field facilities for recreation and playground purposes,"; Respectfully, ja'te-" xoAz Mrs. John Earl Chairman JE/st cc: Milton Rosen Robert F. Peterson James J. Dalglish Severin A. Mortinson Frank L. Loss - _. Bernard T. Holland A COORDINATING COUNCIL OF THE GREATER ST. PAUL UNITED FUND & COUNCIL, INC. I WIN Ci.tY.of Sa int P:au.I._ i r - EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT OFF[CE, OP THE IVI�AYOR a A _347`CITY HALL =AND COURT HOUSE S T . - PAUL' 2,, MINNESOTA 'May 27; 1963 ' 'r£ Mrs.. -John. - Earl:,,.. Ch airma Group"Serv-ices and Recreation; Council 400_'Wilder Building St. ';Paul 2,'Minnesota , ` ,• ` ° + Dear Mrs Earl : . •t = k �' - Thank yoii.~for'`writing me in connection 'wit unning * _ Field. I, too.; share: your concern as to'th eed fo eeping -} this playground area:..; ' Concordia'College .h a e ani p ble ,- through - _ . r no fault of _ their owns the Hig ay Dep rtm rit 8 de ing' property • ` = 'that -- belonged' to th , the ub1 c- i` ter .st:. - f el that the City- should ,coops t 's -:- es,p ns_ ' it y - and tr -to work out a :pbssib "le 1- ionJ. ith t em. ' - : w ht o'• emp as e, th'z'hav opposed the sale of, ; ` Du i Field, -at- the _Co rici ev 1; and' win' ,continue $o- do 'so' �. u it :such ;film a a sui . ab e• ep aceinentT or 'eompromi�se- 'situation - w 11. develop ='a ruo:e d€ a�you cannot take away - cr ation area -'f ur oya i.and g "irl's : ;y .l T �1•'J_ -'Y: . -,fit 4 ai 7. y 'CbuiY "oil`_i:s studying the ent, i`re:�prob.lei,' and si cer o that"We Qant wgrk -out - a satin factory-- solution; bath ' for nco a: College rand for -our boys: and girls, ' in or -der to` maintain .tY�e r 'playground areas: ;7 - - Very' truly yours - Fy i "r+ fin\ ' t 'j • - 's .' •,1 .,: �4., - ,_ f. 'S- .. _... • '.._ I = •' , t• ^^ • •.. ` I ',. , •1 , _ 4 is ' '_ a. - �_ " j ,C ' ' .1• ••F ` - -.. ' 4 - _ • +.. .b• , - .l a _ ':r :_ -• - y T GEORGE'•.) ,' VAVOUVZ S rt MAYOR . ,.t ,[ i.. 4 t '{ • _ 4af -` ;` ," ♦f4•Y _ _' _ _ . -^ Y }L' :.1.- _ - tw ' � ' _ , fit_ _' Y4 1, •- . a .. , 2 S'. _4 _ .;. e�r .'` ♦ _. l t • _ -V' _ - - - ` - �_ •`'.tip•;`` `, .+�•�- ^ •�� w - L_ '_� %z» - - ' � � - •-• � - _ '\- _ ..` ... Y_ ;_ ti ` June 3.` 1963. _ ' _ _ - ate`+ r .. ' ,. ' Y -+��• 4 � -" •- ��-' __ . � Y L- - � - .. �•. _ ` -•- . 3: tereatmd , Persons_ and `aro'dpe � _.•; ^ \' _ _ - _ . , ,h. - _ r ,. - <'- _ - * " �` a\ _ - � -' - "• •rK -�. ter} t •_ "S`f _i .• ~vl '` - , ,'iv . -: _ s •_. •_ ,' .. - ,` ' The St. `Paul , City - Gourioil r c °:gubl3o hdarS.ng on- N66dey; "they_ ai%Chamber•onr the -3rd: ' kloor he : of .,t, City A�11= -rt Bou � 01i, matter = of the adv_ isa.. + - ,. - bility of selling part o W" Dump) Id' property' to 'Concur is College• �'•_'s� 3':= " _ ti.- _ In Agnes 'Cit -Clerk If- � "- +' - - - - } .0 - - "•.I~t•^ -.may .. •- "•T - , _ _•A• _ .. ?..r1 - 1 THE SAINT PAUL PUBLIC SCHOOLS 615 CITY HALL SAINT PAUL 2. MINNESOTA OFFIOE OF PRINCIPAL CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL LEXINGTON PKWY. AND MARSHALL AVE. (4) May 17, 1963 Honorable George Vavou.P". Mayon City ob Saint PaaZ Saint Pain City Hatt and Coun thous e Saint Paul 2, Minne6 ota Dean Mayon Vavou.?.i 6 : RECEIVED - I \UL. 101NN. "TS OFFICE IAM MAY 201963 r 7�>Z�9�10I11i12� 1i8�3�4�a�6 The Athletic and Phy6.ieaZ Edueati.on Depa4tment6 of Centut High School, Sault Paul, MZnna ota, axe extremely grsate6uZ and appreciative to the Depan;bnent of Pa&4 and Ptaygrsound6 fors it6 eoopersation in a.ZZowing the use o6 Dunning 1:.ield6 Jot Centna l6 outdoors athletic, and phy6.ieaZ educa- tion prsogAzm, Without the u6e of the6e jields, our program wound be 6evexely handicapped and would have to be cuA,taited to the extent that a grseat number of our 6tudent6 wouP.d be depti.ved of any outdoors activity. Contrary to poputax beti.es, Centut High Sehoot doe6 not have the athletic jac Utie6 ors playing gel4 that mort ca,6uaZ ob6enven6 would believe. CentuZ High School ha6 the land on which the buUding i.6 located and the packing ahead to the 6outh and we6t of the 6ehool proper. A,ZZ of the land to the we6t o6 the panlung lot belong6 to Pank�s and Playgrsound6, while aZt of the land to the norsth of the 6chool, .i,ncZuding the jootbaZZ stadium and trash, belong6 to the Saint Paut Pubtic High School Admi.n ztnat:Zve Councit. CentW ha6 no exe["ive ki.ght6 to the u6e o5 the 6tadium on mach.; a6 a matter of fact, Centwt' 6 . u,6 a o5 the 6tadium jac i t i ti.e6 i,6 versy .Zbnitted be- cau6e o4 the great demand6 placed on that plant by the va&i.ou6 city -wide prsogxama. At present we have twenty -jour cta66e6 in phy6.ica.Z education each day u6.ing Dunning Field; th.i.6 inc ude6 aZZ avaiZabte areas: we6t area, uppers and lowers 4 eld6, east open area, and the tennis eouAtrs. A brseandown of phy6.icaZ education 6tudent6 by pexiod6 who use the6e axea6 each day i6 as jotteow6: Boyd GiAt6 Totat PeAiod 1 109 45 154 PeAiod 2 129 114 243 PeAiod 3 136 119 255 Pexiod 4 153 101. 243 PeAiod 5 93 54 147 PeAiod 6 134 134 Grand TotaZ If 187 r THE SAINT PAUL PUBLIC SCHOOLS 615 CITY HALL SAINT PAUL 2. MINNESOTA OFFIOE OF PRINCIPAL CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL LEXINGTON PKWY. AND MARSHALL AVE. (4) i 2. Mayon Vavout ,6, 5117163 In addition to ouA phy6.icae education pAogAam, oun athZet c pnogAam i6 dependent on thue aAea6 Jot ajten 6ehodZ pAactice puApo6e6. The SotZow- .ing ath to tie gnoup6 u6 a Dunning F ietd each day in 6 ea6 on : Fa Z Footba.P&Vam i ty 70 boy6 i:ootbaU- "S" Squad 50 boy6 Cu64- countAy 45 boy6 Intfuarwat So jtbaU 30 boy6 WinteA - ToRkey - Vauity 35 boy6 Hockey - "S" Squad 35 boy6 SP Ain B ebaU - VaA6.c ty 25 boy6 Sa6eba t - "B" Squad 25 boy6 Tennid 20 boy6 TAack Squad6 wiZZ u6 a Dunning joA r' Zmen.i.ng up exe ci4e and conditioning ' Aanning when the 6tadium tAack i6 not avai table 70 boy6 We at CentuZ appAeaiate ConeoAdia,16 6.i tuation and gheatty-6ympathize with them but we feet that the 6aee of pa At ob Dunning to 6oZve the A pnobZem woit d "only 'cheate a gneateA one joA u6 here at Cent mZ High Sehoot. S.ineehe.�y, Ralph J. EngebAet6on, PAincipaZ Jo Ryan, Athtetic Ditectak .� Cotvnan S. KeUy, h Depan#ment q6 7 ' cc. aA. ConneA, MA. RobeAt Tuehe&, MA. Geo. Ro6coe, Comni,66.i.oneu Hott2and, Petw on, Rosen, Datg,i.6 h, MoAtin6 on, Lo66 -City .- o f S" i n # , P -a u.l ` EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT - r 'Off ICE-. OF -' THE. MAYO , '` • T 347 CITY HALL AND COURT HOUSE ST. 'PAUL 2, MINNESOTA .+- .:. k'• 4 -May "21,,.• +1963 -- "� b r - , _ .-, { °. - • - ,fir fry "r, �• - -y._ jo �, Mr.• Ralph . J:' Engebretson,, ,Pringipal 'entr`a1- 'HigYiSchool� , Lexington Parkway "and` Marshall A "venue'__'' �''_''' S.t Pau1' 4 , M tines oti� Acx # _ g r.. ' hear Mrs En,ge'bretson i _ Receipt" is aeknoraridged `of your4'letter° of _ a 11 -th, . ' also signed' by John Ryan_ ..and - Coleman Si Kelly -, in, con tion S_ with Dunning, F:.. ' L =, too.;; share-yo ur co as to e. need rt for keeping._ this playground area. = ' Concordia s C'oilege- s "tme ni p bie through no' fault " of their own, the High ay epa t• co e' ing.- property ` . , thaf belonged to th , n, he p bl'' o in' en_ t. I. fe. 1-• tha`t�- the _City 'should',coope t Fth� r. sp nsi i1 `and ry "to work` out. ".,a posse e _ s lu i'on A-z the Ath iii. ,. 't` to.' emp esi `e ,th t I. have opposed "the sadk of ` Dun in Field,. at ' he"Cou .oi .1 ve -, grid will �,continu &' to -do so *• un it such .tire' as a. sui . alil p3 einent ;or .compromise "situation, w ll., _evelop: ' a Enos- ini :df at- ,9 :cannot• =take .away 'r care tion areas r r oya and girls a `Council. it .stisdying,rthe; .entir ,'pr,,'bbldm; iandt^I sin, ere o that , we can `work: ;out , a staisfaotor-y .solution, both + for a College 'and. for. ,our_: "boys and •tirls, . in Qrde� . tb s maintain t)ie r pi`aygrouiad • areas'-:' c ?+ � -' s a' '. f s� ' � Very , truly ;yours' � GEORGE J.''VAVOULIS ".MAYOR, -GV%Sal` alb -. `� . •,� '• _ _•+�'.• YF- - i - _ ' ` ^` .' - ':` n 1. - ; - 4 •,yam .. ,, ' * .. ` ' -• - i " +' [ � r- T'' JOSEPH PRIFREL 47TH DISTRICT RAMSEY COUNTY 1031 WOODBRIDGE STREET ST. PAUL. MINNESOTA The Honorable ---Mayor of the Courthouse State 0f.)lzin cesofa HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES L. L. DUXBURY, JR., Speaker May 18, 1963 George Vavoulis City -of Saint Paul St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Sir: COMMITTEES: CITIES OF THE FIRST AND SECOND CLASS CIVIL ADMINISTRATION EMPLOYEES' COMPENSATION INDUSTRIAL AND EMPLOYEE RELATIONS TAXES RECEIVED I q, UL. ..INN. 117 1'0 "; OFFICE l A M MAY 2 0 1963 P M i M1?I1�MAI 111314150 � I I am writing this letter to you due to the fact that Commissioner Frank Loss of Parks and Playgrounds has activated a move that would bring about the destruction of Dunning Field and particularly the stadium for baseball. It was built from the donations of pennies from the midget baseball players to the dollars of those playing in the city leagues, whereas collections have been made in the past on our amateur baseball day to bring about the completion of this place which is dedicated to baseball in the City of Saint Paul. The baseball stadium at Dunning Field has been developed, not as a construction of mortar, bricks, and steel, but is baseball in'itself for our city. It is the ambition of every boy who plays in the amateur baseball leagues to be selected to play on a leading or championship team on that diamond. Being the past chairman of the Amateur Baseball Board and having been the chairman of the collections program that built that stadium, naturally I have a very close personal interest to what may happen. I have been approached by some persons who have an interest in Concordia College, and I can agree that there is a definite need for replacement of an athletic field for that school. However, it is quite difficult to conceive the destruction of a playground that means so much to thousands of boys in our city. I can foresee a possible coordinated program with Concordia College, but I cannot see the complete surrender of the sacred place dedicated to baseball in our city. I am certain that in this letter I express to you the feelings of thousands who have played baseball and a large group of boys who .. J 2. The Honorable George Vavoulis May 18, 1963 are actively participating in the sport today. I hope that you can see your way clear to bring about a solution to this problem without the destruction of a place so necessary not only for the boys and girls of our city, but to that location where your delinquency rate is unusually high and would destroy the only playgrounds that is in that area now. However, I am of the opinion that before any further moves are made in either direction on this proposal, meetings are arranged with those of us who have continued the amateur athletic programs that were developed by our forefathers and were vitally interested in the continuation of the same. I hope you will give due consideration to my request. Yours respectfully, Jos ph Prifrel r i r, C.ity, of . a>%nfl� ,-,P a u,� • - s -" - z -. EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT ' - ' - - .-. ... O:,F�ElCE ` Of THE - WAY -0 R` `'i V ✓y' .. _ ., }.V•` t ` f' -'- ' :tip,vc `• w` `'t.r� •j• SF •f :ice •` HALLeND COURT HOUSE'S Y. _ SST: PAUL 2, MINNESOTA' . — r •-- -_ -. x• rt - t 'a -� .. , r .` Y a r L - y ' rp . t,.',- ci 4,_ ;� - -' :; �( -r ' k v - r14aiyr22,' 1963 Mr Joseph','Prifrel ° '_� . �'• - �' -- • - - - _ . 1031 Woodbridge Sheet - Dear Mr. Pr,''-' 'Thank •you for writing' me iii- conne-ctibn•_wi *h. D g, ' Field. -1, too; sharp your concern.,. as _ to the ad .for , _ .'epi;ng -_ _ this playground are' Concordia "College his a of nit pr 1 th gh - ' no-fault of their own:, the High by Depa tme t'.;_co ing .properiy._" that __belonged to' 't in e P _ 1 e - or st: - I_ f� 1 that the ' - Cit = should coo a in thi 'r sr no' y p i y" and ry to work ' • . _ ,' - out a Po i a of ion wi h: want o ,e h"iz : t n I ave opposed .the sale - <� D ni g` fold; t he Co c ve and will continuo to do .so 3: , till such ; time G_' su t : e aceiueAt or, compromise .. s *tustion _ - w 7�1 evelop. I t' ndful that you 'cannot'°ta]ce .away ° Y r cr® tion aa' from our_ boys _and° girls. :. .,. y'Th ouicil f s sitndyix�g the entire` problem., and ..I }' . 'sincerely `hops - that'- we 4can- work' out - a : satisfactory solution_ ;' both ; = ' = for- Concordia Colliggi and foie our boys',and girls, in order `to *, Z4ntain their• playground areas... Very -truly youirs,.. C3OIt�E J. VAVOULIB . , _. - . -• _.' - . � -- -.. _ - • _ . _MAYOR ', _T ♦ ,y. .t,' .. _ r -l. try "- - • , -'` .. _ ,) , - � .. .y. •+ - 141 vial THEODORE D. WRIGHT �C�T pC'QG EfI GRAND AVENUE ins my lu ST. PAUL 2, MINNESOTA �• 'I963 .. MAYOR GEORGE VAVOULIS, Ramsey County C`Ourt Hioum St. Paul 1,; Minn. .HELP GIODW HE U LP ...$. i A.• RECEIVED aUL. MINN. In ) ;TS OFFICE MAY 17 1963 AM FM May 16, 1963 81� Mayor George Vavoulis Ramsey County Court House St. Paul, Minnesota Mayor Vavoulis and Members of the St. Pau ity Council: The r cent discussions in the City Council about the possible sale of part of DunXng Field have come to the attention of the Board of Trustees of Unity Church, Portland and Grotto. Because of our geographical location this Church has a particular interest in the so- called Dale -Selby area, which lies northerly to the church,`and extends from, say, Western to Lexington. This area has for sometime been, as the Council is well aware, an area of serious over - crowding and delinquency problems. -The congestion at the Lexington Avenue end of the district will shortly become even more serious as the "Cathedral" clearance program becomes effective at the easterly end. This Board feels that any reduction in the size of this recreational area in the center of'a concentrated population and adjacent io the largest high school in the City would be an irreparable mistake. Only last summer there was a large tract of two city blocks just across the street from Dunning sold after having had "For Sale" signs displayed for many months. Any need for additional land could have been fulfilled at that time without the sacrifice of a part of one of our all too few city recreational areas. In a meeting of our Board on May 13, 1963, the undersigned was instructed to write a letter respectfully requesting the City Council to turn down any proposal which would result in a diminution in the size of Dung Field. Respectfully yours, n t � " T. D. Wright, President Board of es Unity Church City of SairitrPaul a- _ •� _ "' - EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT-,'. 0FF10E ' 0F: =I HE -MAYOR ; 347 CITY -HALL AND _COURT:'HOUSE ,ST.' PAUL-2, MINNESOTA} PLO . `= May- 21 ' X196-3 I f �� YF iw l ^. Ip 1 �`• r .. _ 4 Mr.' T. D•: Wr.ighti President Board of Trustees Unity Church- 511-Grand Avenue - • _. St: Paul 2, Minnesota :. bear Mr: Wright a. Thank you for writing' me, in -co .: ion vii Dunning I , Field. I -too'y share your concern as to t ne fo eeping this playground area Concordia C611.0geL h s Of nit _pro �� th ou no fault of their o i, t igH sy Depa tl' t con 3 noperty that belon ea.to e g ti th p b1 a i to . s.t. ' I fe..1 that tfie City shouted oop ra a 'in hi r 8 b' ity' and ry 'fio -:- -out a s e' of Lion w th h M. 4 I• ant to em p as ' ze th t -I have;' opposed, ,the sale of =+ Du ni g Field, he ' Co nc ve and' will. continue to do 'Bo - s u til such time s` su' ab a acement . or" compromise situation ' - „ 11 evelop. I m t ndful. that you =_Cannot •take = = <Away,' r are Lion a ' as "fr r boys and, girls..' ` - e Council. '3s 'studying the. entire Yproblem,: and fi ' - since ope -,that -we • can work 'out a satisfactory °.solution,, both - for' Concordia College' and far. our- boys; girls, -, in• order to'•r .and maintain their playground areas. Very truly yours GEORGE J. `VAVOULIS - MAYOR: - o i C'Ifya O Sglhf•�PgU� • EXECIITIYE PA DERTMENT~ A. ' OFFICE OF THE ` AY0' 347 CITY'HALL 'AND' COURT :HOUSE - a ST. PAUL 2, MINNESOTA 14ay.22.; 1963 - Mr: day Perrizo,.President ; Sylvan Booster Club. 109 west Geranium St. Paul 17.5, •Minnesota ! Dear Mr. .Perrizoz T Thank you for sending me-'the, the 'telegram connection with Dunning Field '.I� tooiS a ou_r c cern as to the' need for keeping this pla un are i' Concordi a- College h s; de ' nit - p ble - through no fault -- of -their own. the Hi wa ' Dep rtm :nt -o de Wing , property that - belonged; tot m he ub io ' i to stt f el that the City should coop a e th's ©s on bi ty and tr to work - • out a pons' le, of tion i.th t nt ' to- emp asi .'e th t i have opposed the sale of ' D rii' g Paeld, at the .Co 1 ev 1; and' will ,,gontinue ',to 'do" so +. r u ti such tim a . a su'�tab e e `cement or compromise situation- 1, ll develop:• a mo nd that you cannot. take sway eer ation, a ea s. fr ou boys: and girls. _ `a - L e Council is studying the entire problem] and.T - _ si ere " 'e that we can work, out a ' satisfactory _ solution,,' both for ' dia - College and for our boys and .girls , in •order to ' ma`intai.ri their glaygvouaid areasw - . .' - - . , •_ -. ' -_ 'T• a '. A - - -. i .., 4 Very truly -yours GEORGE'J. VAVOULIS - MAYOR- - GV. al { , . - - OLD TIMERS' HOT STOVE LEAGUE 325 N McCarron Blvd. SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA May 18 1963. To -the Hon Mayor and Members of the City Council. Court House. St Paul,Minn. 1NT 1 In M AYE'' DICE A M MAY `' .1 063 P M 1 TI8Ig1�.014 %: L,414141410 ! @ i I AUL. MINN. OFFICE' A M MAY 2 0 1 963 FM � �18�9�i0I11112I1ILI3I4IaI6 Gentleman; Our attention has been called to the fact that it is contemplated to sell a goodly portion of the Dunning Baseball field. The members of the Old Timers Hot Stove League of St Paul,composed of,many men in all wakes of life who are former baseball players, Managers,umpires and sponsors, who have contributed immeasurably to the success of the Municipal baseball program in the city of St Paul, for these many years, it would consider a gross serious,and flagrant as well irrepairable error,if such a calamity should occur. There is a severe scarcity of baseball diamonds now, as is evidenced by the fact that only one a week is. available for any one team for practice purposes, which indeed is a serious handicap for the boys development in the science and art of baseball. May we remind you that some few years ago, the Midget and the Junior League ball players of that era, who are now still actively engaged in the Municipal Program, raised money through several Tag Days as they were called during that time, which went to the improvement of Dunning Field. Furthermore, even if new property is squired, it would take many many years to produce or put baseball diamonds to the fine condition and high standards that the Dunning fields have been in recent years. The Old Timers Hot Stove League in regular meeting assembled May 15th unanimously and vigorously opposed such a regretable and unwarented action,and instructed me as its secretary to convey to you its unalterable opposition to such action. Yours Very Truly C�J J President Secy eas. _ .1��'C,,; '�'i!, ` - • 4 n �' gib• �•• 1 y• ' .. - . • City 6 VS6 i'ntt- nKw u,L-Ii ' l - EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT •af rV Q:.F; Fit C E_ . O.F TH E t: M�A Y O R '?'` -- *'347 •CITY I'1ALL'%A"' "COURT HOUSE," - y l • ; ST_. PAUL �+- c k ,'MINNESOTA.: f{ ` �F `i` _ ,. :• - Y � ;: ,. _ .l ": d �� .�,�. '•�� ,t ,� t+•_ .VC ,{ I`', it•'` rte. -'- . -- ' ,. - •. - ` _ � ' MAY - 22;. •1963 l - - •- . Nor. George :J.. -Kronschnabel -' - - - 1 ;c /,o Union - Brass .& Metal Mfg., ,'Co. SO1 West'Law6Qn Avenue. ` -St. ,pawl 17',.-' inneSpta Dear Mr. `Kron66hnab.e3l: s_" Thank ybu for` VIM i,ng me ri eon ion wi. Dunning'; .r - Field.':e ' I ,, 'too °', ,share . your ;aoncer�ri as • to - e n d' 'f keeping' '.this. "playground gear. C6ncordi:a` College °h e' a def nit- pro Sem through g no fault:�of 'their, o , Hig i�ay _ Dep rt ., nt eo de. ning property - - -that belonged to ,° a ub is to est. f e1 that -the ; : ,City - 'Should_ coo .e:r e in th?. es o b_ it'--and tr to wgrk , + r, but' a s -b a aa1 tian- X, ith t erg: I,.w 'nt to em asi a th t I.have dpposed ~the sale of., ' nn g Fie] ,d, :a't-. the C nc' 1 eV ,,.. and -will Coijtintie to do so - u ti such tim ae `a;.:s ;ta e- Acement or domprom se.'situ4tion. ill'. develop. • - am t indfu]: that you cannot take away a cr anon a as r bc�jts and "girls s° - council i�` s-tudyin� the entirre problom; and I:' no ope th- at- 1 -vi.6 aah, work_ gout a' snt ' S actory solution' _ foie Concordia- Coi�ege 'and, £or ours boys and_' gir`la; in order to " r _ ma i ritain their' playground 'areas.: =Y ' ; • A ,,- :. _ _ .Very `truly yours,*,: • e ;. - GEORGE J,,',VAVOULIS' , - ', = ,MAYOR V 1 • ` - , - • -< 1- �`4V Yr }ta• .- .` - - • �. , 6. - - •' -' • ' '•• f C `cJ h - '• ` '', � " - _ cal. _ ,. - T- -+ "'17l. "a... - - - - • •. . , r . _- �h - - s •LF' `,a�:: City 'of.S:aint --Paul Y EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT '_ r ; • . OFFICE.-OF. THE - MA -YOR .; • , 347 CITY, HALL, AND COURTHOUSE = - • , • - ST. PAUL" 2; MINNESOTA.. May, 22,. 1963' Y Mr. -Carl Harp, sti, President 't Old • timers 110t _�t0ye. League, 325-North McCarrgh *Bouleva'rd I ' }r .� ' St , Minriela PiUl i.'a',} "[! _ .l [. .7f •tt-'y :y+?. 4 t'.•.� r 7• w ota► . Dear Mr.- Harp, :. t f _ Receipt is acknowledged of your`lett. :of Ma 8th, also 'signed by Frank `J.' Shimcn, in connect w ng Field. :I'- too' sh a sad • or ®p�fiq t . are your .cone rn a -- .. . tYtia playground areari: , Concordia` as' - d fini e p oblem trough , no fault- of their n H li y ep t coed mn ng property � that belongs to . r in h e that, the City sh ,. p ra .n t ia� e' po 411ty and y to. work out a sable s lu ion wi h t e I want to pha iz- Nava opposed the sei]:e of • in Fie, at he lever and will.'continue to do so'". a un 1 uch ld. ti as a le - replacem6nt or' coiuprom i Se *ituation , wil de slop. em most mindful that you cannot -'tak® away. ZeCr iio x ' 8 from 'our - boys ;and girls.'' 1%a Council is studying "the emir® problem." and S' sincerely Yiop®- that we can wo =k- out:_a sattief�tctory solutions both for Concordia. College a>nd or our boys and 'girls,..n =order to ' maintain, their p�•aY9round .aireas. 4 r Very ttUy, yours; .. GEOR= .J: VAVOULI6 = MAYOR gj v /elo - Y _ ' ' : � •r -�'' K tyy�' yam..• _ ' b_ _ - .. _ -� Fy•, •' - Y..- `'T.: -t •, . �•�,•, 4ii�' f,i;:4� . - ,t:'_•'4 - .1-`" " a+; Op, ,Tti :- �'�7F'•"r 4 ;+^ Get/ fSa i n ��, 16 Kf! f •,T_W ; i t o a u {..• ? Tx" s 1 r 4. -EXECUTIVE` DEPARTMENT = OFFICE -.' :0 -F }T'HE °M.AY0R 347 CITY HALT. AND COURT HOUSE A ST. PAUL 2, MINNESOTA 22, 1563'-.- ' Mr, Rays a. Mocke President St. Pasul Municipa1 Amateur Baseball Assn. z • £ - • Buresu •oi - Recreation = - . 557 City -Hall & Court M_ o_use .. - - ' : St:. Paul`: 2,' Miiaqiot4 ' ; ' •" Dear Mr Mocks s ', = Thank .you. --for far ting me in ; :connoc with t in Field. -I, too, sham '-your c_ oneern - pia -to t nei fob eping, this playground area. sa Concordia,Col a hae do ini a p' oblem trough y - . 3 `fain of th ®r o ,.' ®• Iiw y : Par :cond 'mn rig property " 4 - .. that belonged tor., , in- die li 3 er st: - I eses- that the - City sho' p at in t is ® - ity' _ and t o Mork out a s� lu i.on wi Yi `t S want to polikk ze th ' t have- opposed the sale of D in Field, -at th Co c '-1 . el', and. will continue to do to ' un- i1 uch t .., as s t e replacement -• or compromise =situation ".- - wil de elo) " am most mindful that you cannot take array ' rot: r ati a from our. boys "and giilse' . -' The Council - is studying, the entir ' ,Problem, 'and Y sincerely •h ope"' that we can work out a satiofactory solution, -_ both _ for .CoAco_ rdia Coll -agd and for our boyo� and girls' in order to, T'- - maintain tfiea,r' playground__ areas:. E - Very truly _yours; -' Q/EORGS J. VAV9U� S s ' • MAYYOR _ - • Y` -. . _ .. :art• - k -- •. �ro� • � - •1 ` r `y • _ - • - .- - I "_ ~ • _�`' y � tit '` y.' ••i ,-� - ` _,. y .? -�{ RECEIVED 114"r PAUL, MINN. \YO.R'S OFFICE A M MAY 2 0 1963 FM f, ��g�9lgplul�l �I�I�I�lal6 A SAINT PAUL MUNICIPAL AMATEUR BASEBALL ASSOCIATION Headquarters -- BUREAU OF RECREATION- -557 CITY HALL Saint Paul 2, Minnesota Mayor George Vavoulis and City Council Honorable Gentlemen: The St. Paul Municipal Amateur Baseball Associatioh, through its Board of Directors, wishes to express itself in total opposition to the sale of any part of Dunning Field. Several years ago this matter of possible sale was thoroughly examined by the Board of Directors, who at that time as now, took a firm stand. Dunning Field represents the only recreational space in this centrally located part of the city. Any reduction of this area would handicap those who have been using the fields and would particularly inconven- ience and limit the younger age groups, who would thereby be forced to travel great distances for their recreation. The directors of the St. Paul Municipal Amateur Baseball Association now request your support in retaining the full area as it now exists by opposing the sale of any part of the Dunning Field. Resp( E6yfully yours, 0 1' iL, • CC: Members of the Board of Directors i ,�' s DOWN TOWN PROPERTIES APPRAISALS MANAGEMENT SALES J! U o O Q � O REALTOR Midland Building &0"10 Mm. May 16, 1963 Mayor George Vavoulis Ramsey County Court House St. Paul, Minnesota RECEIVED 1 AUL, MINN. ; �)R'S OFFICE A M MAY 17 1963 PM 71#1 MOMAIIIAMAP To The Mayor and Members of th Council of the City of St. Paul: I wish to register my citizen's disapproval of the proposed sale of a portion of Dunning Field to private interests. The Dunning complex provides an essential recreation area for a heavily populated and demanding district; a district which even now needs more rather than less area for recreational assemblages. To disregard the advice of the Planning Board is to cast aside the rational approach to a serious problem. To suggest a "trade" by purchasing with the proceeds of this proposed sale another and removed location is to restrict and thus foreclose Dunning's maximum function to serve this district at a time of increasing need. JDB/ j r Respectfully yours, John D. Barwise 0 of -S _o i n t- P. -a u ;; -City EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT- : OFFICE OF THE MAYOR 347 CITY HALL AND COURT-HOUSE. r ST. PAUL 2,9 MINNESOTA' • May '21, 1.963 ,� .. Mr'. John D-. Barwise - Midland' ill ilding .r' _ - Ali St. Paul 1, -Minnesota F..'_. '� Dear Mr.. Barwiset Thank you for writing me in connection -wit ' unning Field.,. I y fioo` "''hare -your ;concern as- o tithe "n ed for epirig , this playground- barda� College ha' fin e- rob , through, _Concordia .- no `fault of their own, the. I,gh ay. epa ,tme t c de ng property ' that belonged to _ their- the p bli in are t..� 1 that the �_fe City`; should cooper in t ' 8 Er "sp risiD 7;i and= 'ry Tto work - out _a = possible °so 't'* oh 'tl th m. a ' += w nt o emp,46i a th -have qFP&3t the sale.of Dunn' ield,• t : he. Cou cil 1 ve ,.,and wiil continue to do so Un 1 uch time as a.suit bl r pl cement -or compromise situation 'cai eveiop: 'a -most mi fu t you - cannot' take away - _ .1 - r ere tion areas fr m: o ys nd' girls e Coun ' - s_study rig -the entire groblemy and I si , cer y h that, .we can work, out, a satisfactory solution $ -both - for oncord College and ,for, our,-boys; and girls $ in oidor to maim- eir .playground 'areas . ' ,Y y Very 'truly yours•i GEORGE J. VAVOULIS ; : MAYOR _ ,_GV : al _ _ r Mayor George Vavoulis City Court House St. Paul 1, Minnesota WILLIAM L* HURLEY 1490 Summit Avenue St. Paul 5, Minn. RECEIVED S.-LINT PAUL. MINN. In MAYOR'S OFFIC,k'- A M MAY 21 1963 PM May 20, 163_ Re: Dunning Playground Dear Mayor Vavoulis:, - Regarding the sale of- this playground; I thin_ k 4it,._would be- a 'great mistake for the following reasons: , 1. Dunning Playground now has 3_fields unavailable -to� young people...The softball field, the baseball field and Central Highschool field._ -Two of these are fenced in;-which leaves only the small north end available for a,playground. 2. In the Midu y area currently competing for land are heavy and light industry, railroads, four colleges, and the city and state road programs.. To keep residents from moving to the suburbs, St. Paul xnst -offer playgrounds in -the area near where people live. Youngsters cannot be sent to Como or McMurray Fields which -are miles from their homes. 3. Land values are high because of industrial demands so this land would never b.e" replaced without - condemnation proceedings. 4. Because of no planning in the last fifty years, Dunning Field is the only adequate playground between Lexington Avenue and' the Mississippi River from St. Clair to University Avenue. There are three half= -bl.ock_squares atGroveland School, Edgecombe, and -,Prior and St'. Anthony' which are inadequate, to - = handle this large-'area- I have eight children and I hav6:been_at most facilities in the city. I want my children to compete in�the parks and playgrounds activities. - More activities have been cancel -led because- of,lack of transportation (automo- biles) than any other factor.d can- recall., ; Just drive down Marshall any nice day between 4 :00 and 9 :00 PM and look at the activity at Dunning Playground.! a -I feel selling this field =would show this city-has the same lack of plan _Wing and foresight it had "fifty :years ago-. f -4 - Very truly your , Wi liam L. Hurley, P. S. If you can replace this land in this same general area, I withdraw my objections. ' _ -City of Saint Paul- EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT yy :OFFICE 'OF YHE MAYOR _. 347 CITY, HALL AND COURT HOUSE ; ST. PAUL 2, MINN_ ESOTA �` ; " v ,` May..•21; 1.963 • Mr. William L. Hurley' 1490 Summit Avenue• _ St Paul 5. Minnesota = s Dear Mr. a' _ . -; • -.` - -_ E _ - i a' .." �f �_ `t•' �' a,, t% Thaink fyow for > v ,�: �• :: . . ,' : wniting�'ine in,' connection with nnrig.' . Field. I too ' ` share your concern�as to•tlie need fo eeping 'this ' - play_ ground • area. ''•' Concordia College- has.• fins -e • obl �' hrough , no'fault of their own, the Hi wa -,De art nt -?on ing property~ :.' that belonged: to them, in 'the ub is i ter st; n �f that the . •= _City.'should cooper Yn his e's onsi il- y an .el tr to work, out a ' possible, s u o wi t em ' wa t- o .emph siz hat ave oppos sale the of Dun 'n ie_ d, .at the Co nei •ev 1, and.wi,ll_continue to do s`o - .. un 1 such, ti e a -a,sui ab e p ace ment ar compromise +situation w .w 11 develop. I m mos 'mi d 1 at you-.- cannot. take away - ed, a_ tion are s om. r oy• nd girls:` T Cou _ studying the entire problems and I .r ' s nde -ely a that we can' work c)ut a satisfactory solution, both. fo Co College' .and for our boys and,-girls; a_in order. to = a - maid sir playgroun areas • Very truly yours, V. ' GEORGE J...VAVOUhIS' MAYOR _ _ GV :aI it lotso: LOS*$ *# ►o►� Y -40 04 y It �. And'. r k- A ' ` ,f� ? -_ � • - l -_ 1. -t .- "- __ -t.• -1.` _ .. - � �,A' -' � + 4. " � • • • • • • • • • • • a f SERVICE �RN �NI®N SYMBOLS faa message DLa Day Letter eferred char• NL =Night Letter bo. by the TELEGRA1Vi bo4 BF -1201 (4 80) LT- eInternadonal Letter Telegram W. P. MARSHALL. P46a1ORNT The filing time shown in the date line on domestic telegrams is LOCAL. TIME at point of origin. Time of receipt is LOCAL TIME •t point of destination 1005P CST MAY, 9 63 MC527 • M SPD193 PD ST PAUL MINN 9 959P CST r • MAYOR GEORGE VAVOULIS AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL (MUST BE DELIVERED BY 930AM) CITY HALL ST PAUL MINN • IN VIEW OF THE SHORTAGE OF PLYGROUND SPACE IN OUR AREA WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE DISPOSITION OF ANY PLAYGROUND PROPERTY BY THE • CITY SPECIFICALLY DUNNING FIELD ST COLUMBA MENS CLUB. RECEIVED • r PAUL, MINN. Ir► �YOR'S OFFICE �A AY 101963 M • AM '�I$1�i1U111148111$I�l'�I�I�. e • r MIDWAY CIVIC CLUB AN ORGANIZATION OF 1750 BUSINESS MEN DEDICATED TO BUILDING A BETTER COMMUNITY OFFICERS PRESIDENT ALBERT R. SHIELY VICE PRESIDENT ALBERT D. SANDBERG TREASURER C. S. TRUEN EXECUTIVE SECRETARY CLIFTON G. HOLMGREN ASSISTANT SECRETARY ORISKA J. BURNS DIRECTORS DOUGLAS K. BALDWIN ANTHONY J. BECHIK KENNETH A. BOSS CARL A. BRATNOSER RICHARD H. DONALDSON EDWARD C. HAMPE CARL W. JOHNSON GEORGE A. ROBERTS F. F. RONDEAU RAY N. RUETH PAULA. SCHILLING RICHARD R. STEENBERG J. RUSSELL SWEITZER W. T. WILKE W. A. YOUNGHANS MIDWAY 6 -2636 1931 UNIVERSITY AVE., SAINT PAUL 4, MINN. May 6, 1963 Frank L. Loss Commissioner of Parks, Recreation and Public Buildings City Hall St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Commissioner Loss: On April 8, 1963, members of the Board of Directors of the Midway Civic Club, at their monthly meeting, re- affirmed their support of Concordia College in its request to acquire a portion of the land at Dunning Field for the College. The Club first went on record in support of this request in 1957. Concordia College has recently been accorded a four -year ranking as an educational institution. We feel that the college is an asset not only to the Midway district but to the city as a whole. CGH: ob Yours very truly, Clifton G. Holmgren Executive Secretary MIDWAY, THE CENTER OF THE TWIN CITY METROPOLITAN AREA - MORE THAN A MILLION AND A HALF POPULATION HAMLINE UNIVERSITY KAINT PAUL 1. MIMN[taTA arrloe Or TMe rAetloe NT Dr. William A. Poehler, President Concordia College Saint Paul 4, Minnesota Dear Dr. Poehler: August 29, 1962 I have your letter of the 24th in regard to your loss of 5 1/2 acres of your campus -- your entire athletic field -- as a result of court action by the Minnesota State Highway Commission. I have followed this matter ,1 in the press but I was glad to learn about the situation directly from you. With the relocation and development of new highways in recent years, it has created distressing situations for many citizens who have had to find new locations for homes and businesses. In this matter one recognizes that the public interest transcends any private interest. Citizens can find new homes and business locations. Yet, when a college with a campus is involved and a useful portion of its campus is condemned and impaired, it is in a different position from an individ- ual citizen. It cannot pick up and relocate it in a new area. It has to stay where it is and operate in a crippl�:d and less effective manner, and for a long, long, per:ud of time. Therefore, when a college is so affected as Concordia in reducing the size of its campus and losing its athletic field, it becomes a very serious matter. Under the circumstances it seems to me that the city of Saint Paul should be genuinely concerned over what happens to the phyui:cal plant of its colleges, one of its greatest assets. I should think that the city officials would do everything possible to see that Concordia is not restricted and hampered. The least that they could do would be to make Dunning Field available to Concordia on a long term basis and without any cost er for a very nominal cost. Certainly such an arrange- ment would be in the best interest of the city of Saint Paul and the only fair thing to do. Even then this is far from being the equivalent of having Concordia's own athletic field. Dr. William A. Poehler August 29, 1962 page 2 I surelyhope that the officials of the city of Saint Paul will recognize the serious problem created for Concordia by the loss of its athletic field and make some satisfactory arrangement with Con- cordia over the use of Dunning Field. With best wishes, I am Is Sincerely yours, Paul H. Giddens President -�` r} . Dr. William A. Poehler August 29, 1962 page 2 I surelyhope that the officials of the city of Saint Paul will recognize the serious problem created for Concordia by the loss of its athletic field and make some satisfactory arrangement with Con- cordia over the use of Dunning Field. With best wishes, I am Is Sincerely yours, Paul H. Giddens President CAPITOL COMMUNITY SERVICES, INC. 741 HOLLY AVENUE SAINT PAUL 4E, MINNESOTA CAPITAL 2 -2561 may 9, 1963 OFFICERS George Heleniak President Mrs. Reuel D. Harmon Vice - President Linn J. Firestone Vice - President Mrs. Victor Lapakko Secretary Lloyd Leider Treasurer BOARD OF DIRECTORS MtLyor George Vavoulis and Reverend David Benson Members of the Ste Paul City Council Mrs. W. M. Bollenbach, Jr. City - County Building Reverend John Bragdes Mrs. James Brodie West Kellogg Boulevard Eugene Burns Ste Paul 2, Minne sots Mrs. Elizabeth Burr l Mrs. Robert Bush Mrs. Roger Cammack Dear Members s William M. Cassius Harold Cragg Mrs. John Earl The Board of Directors of Capitol Community Reverend Arthur Foote Mrs. Willis Forman Services at its regular May meeting considered the situation Mrs. Kenneth Holmes relative to the possible disposition of a portion of Dunning Mrs. Raleigh Humburd Mrs. Murray L. Johnson Field, and took the following actions Donald Kolbert Donald ie Mrs. Daniel l Ma Magr aw "Capitol Communi Services being aware of the P . George Manning limited recreation areas apart from Dunning Mrs. Edward McGinn Richard Moore Field; and bei ng cognizant of the tremendous Mrs. John Parish need and usage of Dunning Field by the public; Mrs. Fred Paul Lt. John Roberts d being y � aware of the City Planning Boardts Walter Rock action to retain all of the present site, Mrs. Archie Rooch Mrs. Hamilton Ross hereby recommends the retention and preserva- Mrs. Richard Russell tion of present Dunning Field for needed re- Mrs. H. James Scesel, Jr. Mrs. Harold Slawik creation and playground purposes* Donald B. Smith Benno Wolff Miss Lillian Wright Respectfully, GERALD FOWLS Executive Director IVY /I'I' ibi•✓ /�s. Reuel D. �� .9rti President EDH: bo Affiliated With The National Federation of Settlements and Neighborhood Centers A MEMBER OF THE GREATER ST. PAUL UNITED FUND AND COUNCIL, INC. O Press Release STATEMENT MADE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MAY 10, 1963 BY DR. WM. A. POEHLER, PRESIDENT OF CONCORDIA COLLEGE 1. Concordia College has run into a difficult problem in its expansion program which envisions an enrollment of 1200 students by 1971. The problem was created when the interstate freeway was located in such a way that it removed from educational and recreational use the athletic field of Concordia College totaling about five and one -half acres. Concordia College did not oppose the location of the freeway. nor the condemnation of its athletic field. It recognizes that this is part of progress in our present era and believes that this is for the good Of the entire community. However, this action by the City of St. Paul and the State of Minnesota brings about a problem for Concordia College in that it has now been deprived of its own playground and athletic field and is seeking a replacement of these facilities. 2. In seeking a replacement for its lost athletic field the college is aware of an adjacent large public playground called Dunning Field. A small portion of this playground, about seven acres, adjoins the campus of Concordia College in such a way that it would serve admirably as a playground and athletic field for this institution for all the conceivable future years ahead. It would be adequate for the proposed and projected enrollment of the college of 1200 students. The college does not seek this portion of Dunning Field comprising between seven and eight acres as a gift from the city. It is willing to pay a reasonable price based Ripon a public appraisal. (more) Press Release - Page Two. Statement by Dr. Wm. A. Poehler at City Council Meeting 5/10/'63. 3. The history of Dunning Field is such that it was originally acquired by the City of St. Paul from the State of Minnesota for a total sum of about $70, 000 in 1911. It is a matter of legend on the campus of Concordia College and can be verified by one of the octogenarian professors who lived on the campus of Concordia College at that time why the then president of Concordia College, Dr. Buenger, did not purchase that part of Dunning Field when it was for sale in 1911. The venerable professor stated: "Dr. Buenger didn't have the money to buy that part of Dunning Field. However, being a good friend of the City Mayor and of the Governor of Minnesota, he suggested that a restriction be written into the deed that this part of the City of St. Paul be perpetually dedicated for recreational and educational purposes. In this wise, the use of the property would be taken from industry and retained perpetually for educational and recreational purposes." 4. The reason that the college now appears before the City Council is for the purpose of asking the City Council of St. Paul to'help Concordia College in a most difficult problem in its program for the future. The City of St. Paul has dealt most admirably in the past with this institution. We have enjoyed the peace and se�uri- ty of this city for seventy years. V.1e are proud of our community relations. This city has most recently, for example, approved a nine -story dormitory which actually is in process of construction now, the first phase of it, and removed certain restrictions so that the institution might carry out its function and purpose in this community. 5. In the past individual members of the Council and the Council as a group, on an informal basis, have expressed their concern and willingness to review and ( more ) 1t ft. Press Release - Page Three Statement by Dr. Wm. A. Poehler at City Council Meeting 5/10/'63. consider the needs of this rapidly growing institution and to do what they could to make it possible for Concordia to serve its purposes in this community as one of the liberal arts colleges of which the City of St. Paul can justly be proud. This St. Paul educational institution is engaged in training year by year a growing number of teachers and preachers. The demand for its graduates is many times greater than it can produce annually at present. 6. It is important to note, gentlemen, that the college has no intention of building fences around any part of its campus. It has no intention of building fences around this small portion of Dunning Field which it is requesting to purchase for the purpose of retaining an athletic field. The intention of Concordia College is to leave the use of this field exactly what it has been since 1918 when I used to play ball there myself. The children of the community are not to be restricted in reasonable use of these facilities. The only restriction that would be placed upon the field would be that when scheduled games by the college are arranged with outs teams particularly that then, of course, restriction must be placed upon the field for that use. Professor Robert E. Barnes, the athletic director, is present in this group and will be willing to explain exactly what use he proposes to make of this field. 7. If it were possible easily to move Concordia College to a new location with its in- vestment of over $3, 000; 000 and a present enrollment of over 600 students this certainly would be a quick solution. However, already as far back as 1952 this proposal to move the college was carefully examined and abandoned on the assumption that colleges are an asset to the City of St. Paul, that they are (more) 'w Press Release - Page Four Statement by Dr. Wm. A. Poehler at City Council Meeting 5/10/'53. financially defensible, that it is easier and more practical to move a playground than a college, and that we will cast in our lot with this great City and its dis- tinguished Council. On that assumption we have built during the past ten years over two million dollars worth of buildings. `Te have doubled and doubled again the enrollment at this institution. The school has just recently been accredited as a four -year liberal arts college by the North Central Association. We believe that the City of St. Paul and the Council can rightly be proud of having this insti- tution in its midst with an annual operating budget of $1, 000, 000. 8. We come to you as petitioners and as suppliants recognizing that we have no legal claim uvon your favorable consideration and action. However, we do plead with you to consider that it is to the public and community interest at this time not to curtail the expansion and growth of this institution which has been in your midst for seventy years, but to help it solve a very serious problem, to obtain an athletic field for its rapidly growing student body in order to replace the playground taken over by the inter -state freeway. - End - J STATEMENT BY PROFESSOR ROBERT E. BARNES, ATHLETIC DIRECTOR OF CONCORDIA COLLEGE, ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA CONCORDIA'S PROPOSED USE OF DUNNING FIELD WEST OF GRIGGS STREET The proposed use of this field by Concordia would be to conduct college and high school physical education classes, intramural activities, interscholastic and intercollegiate athletic programs. The utilization of the land would be exclusively for these purposes. The specific types of activities to be conducted in the various programs are as follows: A. Physical Education: - 1. Football 2. Speedball 3. Softball 4. Soccer 5. Archery 6. Golf 7. Track B. Intramurals: - 1. Flag Football 2. Ice hockey 3. Softball 4. Track C. Athletics: - 1. Football 2. Baseball 3. Track Because of the loss of our athletic field our present facilities do not permit us to engage in the full program described above. (more) Page 2. - Statement by Prof: R.E:Barnes of Concordia College, St. Paul. In the past, Concordia College has permitted the community the use of its athletic facilities . For example: 1. The baseball diamonds have been used by American Legion teams and other baseball teams in the community for practice. 2. The softball diamonds have been used during the summer by church leagues of various denominations, and by teams from various offices of the State Department, such as the Highway Department and the Office of Internal Revenue. 3. The hockey rink has been used by the V. F. W. for hockey games during the Winter Carnival. 4. Golf enthusiasts in the Community have been able to use our field for practice. 5. Children of the community have been able to use our softball diamonds when the softball diamonds on Dunning were not available to them. Community use of Concordia's outdoor facilities will continue in the future. The only exception to this policy is when the areas are scheduled for use by our students. During the school year the community could use this portion of Dunning Field' in a variety of ways. Football and baseball games could be scheduled on Saturdays and Sundays., Track meets could be scheduled on Fridays and Saturdays when our varsity teams are scheduled away. It is my hope that eventually lights will be installed for the football field. Football games and track meets then could be scheduled at night. Softball fields could be used by the children and adults in the community on Saturdays and Sundays. The use of this portion of Dunning Field by the students in Concordia's Summer School Program is limited. The field will be used occasionally by the students in physical education classes and for recreational activities. During the summer children and adults in the community will be able to use this field in the morning, afternoon,, and after supper. It is my belief that playground and athletic fields are easier to maintain if kept in constant use; so the college would prefer that the fields be used. This is our proposed use of this portion of Dunning Field by the school and our proposed policy for the community use of the field.. May 10, 1963 ' A.0 /";? t/-, - e ��—o STATEMENT BY PROFESSOR ROBERT E. BARNES, ATHLETIC DIRECTOR OF CONCORDIA COLLEGE, ST., PAUL, MINNESOTA CONCORDIA'S PROPOSED USE OF DUNNING FIELD WEST OF GRIGGS STREET The proposed use of this field by Concordia would be to conduct college and high school physical education classes, intramural activities, interscholastic and intercollegiate athletic programs. The utilization of the land would be exclusively for these purposes. The specific types of activities t�> be conducted in the various programs are as follows: A. Physical Education: - 1. Football 2. Speedball 3. Softball 4. Soccer 5. Archery 6. Golf 7. Track B. Intramurals: - 1. Flag Football 2. Ice hockey 3. Softball 4. Track C. Athletics: - 1. Football 2. Baseball 3. Track Because of the loss of our athletic field our present facilities do not permit us to engage in the full program described above. (more) ' 4• y Page 2. - Statement by Prof. R.F:Barnes of Concordia College, St, Paul. In the past, Concordia College has permitted the community the use of its athletic facilities. For example: 1. The baseball diamonds have been used by American Legion teams and other baseball teams in the community for practice. 2. The softball diamonds have been used during the summer by church leagues of various denominations, and by teams from various offices of the State Department, such as the Highway Department and the Office of Internal Revenue. 3. The hockey rink has been used by the V . F . V.". for hockey games during the Winter Carnival. 4. Golf enthusiasts in the dommunity have been able to use our field for practice. 5. Children of the community have been able to use our softball diamonds when the softball diamonds on Dunning were not available to them. Community use of Concordia's outdoor facilities will continue in the future. The only exception to this policy is when the areas are scheduled for use by our students. During the school year the community could use this portion of Dunning Field in a variety of ways. Football and baseball games could be scheduled on Saturdays and Sundays, Track meets could be scheduled on Fridays and Saturdays when our varsity teams are scheduled away. It is my hope that eventually lights will be installed for the football field. Football games and track meets then could be scheduled at night. Softball fields could be used by the children and adults in the community on Saturdays and Sundays. The use of this portion of Dunning Field by the students in Conpordia's Summer Sphool Program is limited. The field will be used occasionally by the students in physical education classes and for recreational activities. During the summer children and adults in the community will be able to use this field in the morning, afternoon, and after supper. It is my belief that playground and athletic fields are easier to maintain if kept in constant use; so the college would prefer that the fields be used. This is our proposed use of this portion of Dunning Field by the school and our proposed policy for the community use of the field. May 10, 1963 s r R i t1 UL AV LN iJF MINNESOTA MIton Hosen M5 Summit Averiue St. Paul 5, r -inr :. Dear rd 1t s Perhaps _ �; :'�.,. te! i, rlf in tn7 ]H,irlk t,.at 1 nave sore worthl�nile ideas on what t;, uG r�it}: I�r,nco_Ydia college, Tit T ao nave sev-ral t.-.oughts on the subject ar, : 7 did r;Ot war,;, to embarrass you ty Iaki ;- p,,yself seen with you. So 1 0eci0erJ t%is r.i;;ht oe the o�:sy wd�, out. First, I st.•D,g1,Y susc.ect that diving them any lar'7, even ;'or a price, 1. would be ille;al ?r,a subject the city to sort mess., law suits, r;ot to mention next election. As it is the city is provably going to get sued once or twice over things other than this. Ar.other one is,-,It �;Oir�;; to help any. clven if it is not actually illegal for the city to do this, it is a very poor idea. If you will notice the groups who came out for it, one of the foremost is the Romans. I'm sure you re_lize Dalglish isn't done with you yet and that certain of the church people still intend to nave them way and close Prior, for purposes sav, of creating a playground where Prior used to be. It would be nice precedent for the city to help out a Lutheran college first, wouldnit it? Secondly, the state created this problem anc the school knew about it for a long time. I assume the state paid them a race price for the land they took. Certainly the scnool can afford to purcha se adjacent property if it feels they need it. They didn't hesitate to buy apartments across the street on the south side of P'arshall for housing when they needed those. There is a fairly good sized piece of land on the Southwest corner occupied by O'Connora Gasoline Alley, a gas station. Acquisition of this land with some they already known by the tennis courts next door to it would give them enough athletic room, I would think. The gas station is an eyesore to begin with and should be removed. Third, I would think that the city coulu properly allow the use of Dunning Field on a long term lease basis with the school paying a nominal sum for its use and footing the r:ost of its upkeep, such as cutting the grass, etc. Any such use by the school should allow the city to use it for its softball leagues, etc. when the school itself isn't using it. Fourth, and probably the most critical factor in the whole question is whether there is enough land available for the school, completely aside from the present problem. Ply opinion is that the land is inadequate arxi that the school is crazy if they try to build on the present site beyond what they have now. The size of t eir plant is going to have to be a lot bigger than they are planning for i order to do a half way decent job. The thing I am afraid of is that they are goin; to sink a lot of money in there and find out in the end that) it isn't right. The city could well end up holding the bag for part of it r, the Dunning deal. It seems to me they would be far better off to abandon that site completely just as etheI College did with their Snelling Avenue site. I don't know what t e inner workings of the c nurches would be, but I think it would be a good recommendation that Concordia take a hard look at buying the old Bethel campus At least it offers room for growth, which is what Concordia is looking for. It may be that bethet would welcome the opportunity to phase out gradual y from the old campus anu this would allow Concordia to make use of the othe wise too large Bethel facilities until such time as Concordia could grow enough to fill the space itself. Fifth, there is a problem of what to do with the Concordia as it exists now in the event they were to move to the Bethel campus or elsewhere. Several possibilities come to mind. It seems quite likely, in view of the mood of the legislature, that there is going to be @trend toward decentralization of colleges away from th University campus itself. There was quite strong sentiment for establi hment of several additional Junior Colleges., especially in the Twin Cities an fringe areas. Concordia, as presently situated, would offer excellent opportunity for conversion into a JC, �,hich it now is in effect, except privately operated. As a public institutio , it would have immediate access to the physical education facilities now present just as Central High Ochool does. Another possibliti would be converting it to another Junior or Senior High School. This mig t not be too practical as it might not fit into the geographic distributio pattern of students 1,,ho attend any particular school. However, it might be f• Bible to use as a Junior High for Central and abandon or otherwise downgrade ome of the less desirable schools such as Marshall Junior High. Still another pose bility presents itself. This might run afoul of Vavoulis and his Urban ;nswal plans but you might be able to make some points with labor on it. Why f pitch Concordia as the site for a combined Junior College -High School based on Vocational training? High School vocational training is ok as far as it goes, but that isn't much training for the kids who are going to make th it way in the increasingly technical world by use of their hands. It woul seem to me to be a natural to combine this post - high school training wit the high school and of it. The school, as it is, is Large enough to accom lish both purposes. The dormitories could be used for out of town kids who are attending the school. I think labor might go for it, especially the 1 cation angle. They were the ones who wanted the Snelling Avenue site so bead. This is half way between the old site and Snelling Avenue. At least it would be a talking point. If the place were ut lized sus a junior or s for high the dormitories could always be rented ou as public housing unit# with some remodeling. I would think that some a gle could be worked on that. Or the city could even rent them out on a Profit making basis, just like a revenue bond, until the cost o° acquir :,; the school -iao oeen liqui.j:, te., aiM-j then tear them down. A,: Cher t:1ouC'ht ','!.'-Ch Pay riot be ;s far fetch -J as it right sound is that by ac- -,r the property `'or the city Fie would have an ace in the hole if the Eb rochial s ^nool 2,1vocates decide to Full here what they did in Missouri and serd tneir kids to public school in a-, attempt to panic the public schaals into pay ink for parochial bus transportation and aiac. I Irni positive we are ioinag to have to face the same challenge in the next year or two. It might be handy to have several additional classroom buildings available wnR they are needed. With best perso:.al regards, I renain rj %dr Yours very tr,aly., Hichard L. Johnson • i A The Hon. Mayor City Hall 614a, &-i g. &Niafi 1567 eSummit =4uznue ,SE. !�Daur 5, &Minnesota George Vavoulis St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Mayor Vavoulis: VED JL, f:INN. OFFICE MAY 2 3 1963 4 ie1 � M i;, ��loilillsl 1 I $II'I alb May 21, 1963 It is my understanding that the City of St. Paul has considered selling Dunning Field to Concordia College. I would like to voice an objection, not that Concordia College would not use it for a worthy cause, but because it will deprive thousands of children of the only public playground available for skating, baseball, softball and tennis within a very large area. I think that before any consideration is given to disposing of this land another playground should be made available for actual use, rather than proposed sites which may never lead to any available play- ground space for years, during which time the children will again have to play on the streets. Therefore it is my sincere wish that you would do everything possible to withhold any action on the proposed sale of this property -until such time as an adequate playground has been made available to our children. Thank you for your consideration and with kindest regards, I remain, Yours very truly, Char s J. Michel CJM /mt ��• .. �ii,`�.• ' t �. ..• • ._, t:•�_, i; V' _ -- `rf ,� ''tam � -t '.,y�, -. �rr a. .' - n„ • -- �� c:.ir•' ? cit *�/ 'of :Swint Pa..u� 'ti' +ti.Y� "lf• EXECUTIVE `DEPARTMENT � F.F � C,E'} p :'•J H_ 'E- MA Y O-,R�i a _ :t = s` 347 'CITY HALL °AND COURT. HOUSE Y 3' ST. ` PAUL` 2, MINNESOTA •- :w .' - i1 -`J i�' `"t a - . r!t rvS .. � _ - - .'._ {. _- _' .c a t � '.t � � . 'y , - - � , - % ti's ,. _ _ _ai _. y - - _ ^ -.ii - {•S- i �- 1, - _ `Xxy'.23,.~ 1963 ;' _,• �' _ ,. < -4 _- '� - ,1 • . `.1�� - .tau _ , ?',- ,z '' � "w�' r ,f,.�Y. -. r •l.i')" _ .� , • .° • 1567 3 _ . _' �.. �`,, .. Y .� � ;;� i _�;�,♦.r .. _- _ :, p . � - ; � .. • . uMmit Avenue, rt , ^�9 , �;sj t•' ' 1 �• ' � �' "' ' - .;;vim' �: p';+'� - . - - _'3$ _ Pi�u1t 5.,' `�i.innesota', - t_-�;. w ��. ,� -� � ,•, ' " - - = `.' � . - ' Dear "Mr,MivhBli '►p' t ,,_ ' �. ,t. .� _, • r •,. - �"- ti.� c,�n�.'; � �•� '��'�•�'�� iM1 r -: •� T,.�.. T•, •.� �•�"'s'1 `�:.�� }' .ii,. = 'i. �=, -, °• � {4�, -'r,.. t•" ••• - , ._• Ax 4-ou ;fox ;w 'sting': .� • ;donnootlon;'w th Duo ;'Field_ I, _toe, Y• eharer`.yoo:r..conceRrn:' aim 'to- the• 'nee'd for ksi�ping this.. aye - ground brew►. :` K :,' ,�, = pfa - ` ti`• ; ' IA i , ,- - - -'' '< ?��a��' -p � y4` '�` �,' 1' 1 4 *•� -ram _ � ' F -.. ... Concordia C61164b has a ° - ®f Fb r. h no fault of theii-• own; tho. ' Hi; h y.-.Depeitmon o' ® ins r rt at' ?aslongsd._ t - - ^l .,';Lo them,`.in' the pubYia intil �.t. se -tt Cit dots d poopsratea in this. •retspopOibtlity ry o;' ut po siblt and 'tibb 'with- " ' •them_. _•- - .• - J - _x • , ♦ f., _ - •:_ #.` ,: .; }_ - • - ' ; •� � �_ ,- • - ,. = �' t` ii - hasizee =tYi " h .- Y a opposed 'th ealdr o #, } i Dunning a d;; = it C - uncJ1 ev l; .an _ will, `cont�.nue to cam ' o: until - _ Bush" t a' a suit le 'ropla t or promise situat* 4ill •. - devel0_ am .most '•n fulx. B yb anfiot take ewa�y =eic eation areas _r =from, o. r... y's ..and i -. �.. • i< c�:�. is.' 'stuoy ng h entire problom; : izid ` T `s ncere�.y "• )20pe : "tha wee ilk 'out' a eatipi aotory `solut�,on both - for ' Ce�ncord`im - and . or'• ©ur `�o s and r g y g ohs,' iri, odder .to ma►intairi- their' play- ground ` a eas . ^4 . . • �� r s..' _ _ t y �1bry .truly yours, F � - ..: -��`- _ - ' ' ._ . �- - � , - - �. � r•'; °• w "_ - r(�E6RC�E �J., VhVO�T]'.�ZB...-� f ' l� - r. MYOR HALLIE Q. BROWN BOARD OF DIRECTORS MRS. WILLIAM L. WEST President WALTER W. FRICKE let Vice President MRS. PERRY WILSON 2nd Vice President JOHN M. PATTON Treasurer ROBERT L. SHOFFNER Secretary DIRECTORS Bancroft, Richard H., Jr. Bowman, Miss Ruth Bush, Mrs. Robert P. Carty, Rev. Denzil A. Cashman, Mrs. Paul Cason, Mrs. Louie England, Dr. Rodney Fisher, Mrs. John Gingold, Judge Archie L. Howard, Timothy Ihlenfeldt, B. F. Lazenberry, Leroy Lyght, Norman P. Magraw, Mrs. Daniel B. Massey, Dr. Floyd, Jr. Moore, Louis M. Randall, William B. Rothschild, Kennon Seesel, Mrs. H. James, Jr. Tanner, Mrs. Stephen Walls, Mrs. Milton Warren, George D. White, Louis, Sr. Williams, Dr. Charles H. Winner, Mrs. Leona • HONORARY MEMBE$8 Brooks, Mrs. Maude Butler, Mrs. Hazel Coram, Mrs. Alverta M. Crump, Dr. J. W. Devitt, Judge Edward J. Hall, S. Edward Myers, John Shannon, The Very Rev. James P. • MRS. ALICE SIMS ONQUL Executive Director ADOPTEES 1962 -1968 Richter, George E. Smith, Donald L. Thorne, Paul ii May 21, 1963. I COMMUNITY HOUSE 553 Aurora Ave. St. Paul 3, Minnesota Miss Agnes O'Connell, City Clerk, Court House, St. Paul, Minnesota. Dear Miss O'Connell: CApital 6- 8864 -65 Please notify the Board of Directors of Hallie Q. Brown Community House at the above address, if and when there is a public hearing in connection with the purchase of the Dunning Field Site by Concordia College. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter of utmost importance. Sincerely yours, )�� / • � w � Mrs. William L. West, President, Boardtof Directors, Hallie Q. Brown Community House. avw /Jw MEMBER 0 F T H E S A I N T P A U L UNITED F U N D HALLIE Q. BOARD OF DIRECTORS • MRS. WILLIAM L. WEST President WALTER W. FRICKE 1st Vice President MRS. PERRY WILSON 2nd Vice President JOHN M. PATTON Treasurer ROBERT I.. SHOFFNER Secretary • DIRECTORS Bancroft, Richard H., Jr. Bowman, Miss Ruth Bush, Mrs. Robert P. Carty, Rev. Denzil A. Cashman, Mrs. Paul Cason, Mrs. Louis England, Dr. Rodney Fisher, Mrs. John Gingold, Judge Archie L. Howard, Timothy Iblenfeldt, B. F. Lazenberry, Leroy Lyght, Norman P. Magraw, Mrs. Daniel B. Massey, Dr. Floyd, Jr. Moore, Louis M. Randall, William B. Rothschild, Kennon Seesel, Mrs. H. James, Jr. Tanner, Mrs. Stephen Walls, Mrs. Milton Warren, George D. White, Louis, Sr. Williams, Dr. Charles H. Winner, Mrs. Leona HONORARY MEMBERS Brooks, Mrs. Maude Butler, Mrs. Hazel Coram, Mrs. Alverta M. Crump, Dr. J. W. Devitt, Judge Edward J. Hall, S. Edward Myers, John Shannon, The Very Rev. James P. • MRS. ALICE SIMS ONQUL Executive Director ADOPTEES 1962 -1968 Richter, George E. Smith, Donald L. Thorne, Paul 8 BROWN COMMUNITY HOUSE 553 Aurora Ave. St. Paul 3, Minnesota May 21, 1963. Honorable George Vavoulis, Mayor, City of St. Paul, Court House, St. Paul, Minnesota. Dear Mayor Vavoulis: CApital 6- 8864 -65 PAUL. MINN, irl \ _)R'S OFFICE A M MAY 2 3 1963 71 �, 911m1i1118111$I�IIal6 It has come to our attention that Concordia College is interested in purchasing the Dunning Field for expansion of its college facilities. This is of grave concern to the Board of Directors of Hallie Q. Brown House. Consideration is being given to take away more recreational space in an area that has already been deprived of adequate land use. The Hollow Playground was absorbed to make space for the Central Avenue Apartments; Oxford Playground, which is one -half the size of a normal playground, is taxed to capacity. According to the City Planning Boards Land Use Plan, it is the long range intent to abandon the Oxford Playground as well rather than expand it. In an area where population density is the highest in the City, where a high percentage of public housing has already been added with no plan for adequate playground space and where serious dislocation has occured to make space for the new freeway, it is abundantly clear that no more land should be acquired in the area that takes away recreation facilities. The Board of Directors of Hallie Q. Brown took action on the above date commending you for your strong opposition to the plan which clearly demonstrates your understanding of the pressures on this community. Sincerely y/ou"rsJ, /�i/�t/ 0S' Xv;e Mrs. William L. West, President, Board of Directors. JVW/ jw MEMBER 0 F T H E S A I N T P A U L UNITED FUND City oVSaint_;pa'ul •S' -. t. .' . _. EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT - ;O F FA E O F �': T H E ✓` "M A.Y 9'R . ti } _ 3471 CITY HALL AND 'COURT HOUSE 4a ST PAUL '2, MINNESOTA J •'. ' `, r s• • >• May 23,. 19.63 - L, r � _ ` .. - _ -'- • .. r' ' -� i. ' , r `rte, ..- _ .•,- 7 ..i •` -. f sr - r Ic • " —' _ a •'t''•1 -• -• ', ± +- .1 .'r •• '1L ` - 1 r . - ^ ± _ = t.. t ' _J y - •'' `, • . C' y '[d ®st; Pihesaleut 1 , • .`i . _ .k . ' ; • Board of Directors �rowri';Community .House, 553 Aurora. Avenue r -,Paul 3, Minnepota - • _ - ' ' . - _ r Dear' Mrs -� ._Wes t•: - ' - ��' ` i'?:��' -_ - - 6 .•jam 1$ Thank =you for. sritng. me y 'eon eoti n w t _ Dunning _� ' • Meld_ :: =- i,; .too, ;share your .cone to, - h® ee f y. "this playground area _ -•, - F Col a �h s deif n . -pr6b am. througtr °` y Qoncor no, fault �of>.thef' °o'n* ° 'e' tea D az' ` egint� co de n�'�.property ` - - that belo <t t ens, i. �•th ' ub. i Brest. f 1 that. the City' o o pe ate in thi es bility an. ry °to work M-1 -. + + uti pp , "� #h `t cam :kii ; out . ossible 'so -w nt to hem as ze th I have opposed -the " sale- of urtn ng• Fiei'd;" he ou - i'1 evele and wi11 continue to do, 50' nti ..such •t'me s ui b1e replacement or-compromise situation ' - • ' 11 develo i- a t- °mindful - that "you - cannot - take -away ' are as` fr -om our boys and girls. T.•- . .The Council-is' studying-: the entire problein'4'and,,I ' sincerely -hope :•that was aan work out a satisfactory solution;: both .for. Concordia.. College' and : for our boys and_ girls',,• in -order to Paain_ twin their playground areas: -'` `: r. ' . VeryY truly - yours ; GEORGE.-J, . VAVOULI - ' • - .- .;.d '„ MAYOR.. W: ah - - _ i RECEIVED) YUL, r. INN. I ° ' I "S OFFICE A M MAY 2 31963 �M i �I��91101u1�1i1$i�l�lal� 1381 Summit Avenue St. Paul 5, Minnesota May 22, 1963 The Honorable George J. Vavoulis Mayor of St. Paul 347 City Hall and Court House Building St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Mayor Vavoulis: As a resident of the Midway area, I am very concerned about the proposal to sell Dunning Field. I am sure you are aware of the fact that there is a dearth of recreational areas in our district, and I am very much opposed to anything which would reduce them even further. I can understand the needs of Concordia College, but I do not think that the wishes of a private institution should take precedence over the needs of a large section of the St. Paul citizenry. This particular area has a large number of large families, the majority of wham are in the middle income bracket. I think it would be grossly unfair to elimi- nate about the only public playground they have because of the wishes of a private institution. S ere1y, Ralph A. Rothstein City of S,a,int ,Paul - ' EXECUTIVE D PARTMENTI,, O F F I Cr E ;. 0 F = r 1 ,H E; Lily AfY,oO4 •y"1,et..r.. a '.. 347. CITY HALL AND- COURT- HOUSE,-- ?,4 ST: - PAUL 2,' MINNESOTA 1 • _ :i. "- c tc -.x - - - _ _ 41.1[3 . �'`' -•+c- - ,' _ ,R .. ' `i M • T . Y - c.,a�T . , � " ` ' : �,!., ?3.b i76 ,- ,.`d° .f- ' 4 4 7 L r - ' May -23,',1'963 , •• - a .- v ` •a ,q`' - -'a S',.�,� � • :i ``•�. ni 'jr' -ti4 `' ^.� _ .._ . . _ ', _ , ' - _ •_�"3 4 � y ": •v°` _ :a ,yam . .� lc _ � 'r' ,i _ ' - `._ - .' ' . t` ,.. ..:: `Mr.' Ralph : A: Rothstein < s • , 1381 ,Summit''Avenu ®. ---St -. Paul, 5', Hinnesota,. -�. Dear. Mr. Rothstains A - ' -Thank you` -for' writing `me- in connection -Wit unnin g. _ Field. I's ._ too ;,.share, your concern as •to' cad fo eeping this. play.grouind area '_ Y • ,, : Concordia Co�.lage h' a de nit p . le . , through . no ""fault of their awn; the - Hi - a. De rtm ht oo de in ro ert. $ Y P g P P y. - -that belonged =tot , in he ubl c' i ter st. t 1 that, the - City,_ should coop, a thl a p ns it ty and .t to,work. , 'out a' possi a of -ion ith t ea►:, o'`emp si a th t I"have 'opposed the; aaH' o . _. ` Du i g. Field; at he ''Co nai ev 1,'- and -will. continue' to' do' -$o ` u it such tiro - as __a sui 8b a epl cement or °eomproinise situation w it develop: a - mos m d that -you cannot 'take'' away - ' r cr ation. ai,as -r ur oys' and-- girls 9 r Councii is,. studying_ the :entire problem; ,a-''d,. I ei, are a °'that' we can' work ; out - a-' satisfactory :solution, both ; A for . a Cdllege :aid. 'fo`r` our'_ boys, and girl "s, - in order = to 'maintain .-their- ,playground° areas .; Very - truly yyours GEORGE J.' VAVOULI ` •_ . t_5. �,�; 1, _-•1 "- �r ,' iY4ay .. , __ • .- .. , _ - r. ' •_ -' - L.,4 - .. {,taUL� MINN. CEIV ED ,, -)R'S OFFICE M AY 131963 F M A _ � M May 12,, 196a 1.2-69 Hague, St_.. Paul 4,. D nom., The: Honorable. George T� Vavoulis-, Mayor. of St.. Paul. Court, House St.. Paul, hinn..- _ Dear 11r.- Mayor - ri a. r'R. } �f •.� =rte _� � + r� a I: would like 'to � s.tate Amy ;opp.asiation to : the" - -proposed sale- of part of Dunning Field. to Concordia College.. My, opposition is - based•�on the:- year - round public. -use: of - this - - a Yf -► r t_ i .s =y -•. f In an age- -when specc ,tatkos sports are - becoming increasingly i papular,. L- feel i-t 'is important to encourage active- participation in sport -s,, especially in urban areas, where. , even playing space,.-is limi..ted_ (as..'evidenced by the children playing�in the stree.tsj The land in question is used. as- & skating rink" in the winter.. While, ' skating Z estimated on some.- weekends. that as many as f 150 chi:�dr.en, . plus a few adults were using the rink. at one Ume,.. Already this spring 1 have seen numerous baseball games in progress on�this land. These. are Activities which the. city should encourage., rather than - restrict It was reported -that tithe college intended an � athletic program that would still.permit community use of the land.." I- would hes- ita:te_ ta- accept this. statement, ! especially when'the college admits plans to double its: ; enrollment ;, If, the land should be-sold on this basis,., a pertinant clause should be-included in the contract- -. -- - -t'o- enforce "-the.- community- use. = o:f-- -the- land: - -I= sympathize with the problens of Concordia College but I think. the maximum benefit to the community can be achieved better without - decreasing the park area..` It has been suggested that the revenue gained fFom _ the; sale of this land could be used to buy larger tracts -'of land elsewhere., I- commend 'Commissioner Ross on his 4 _intentions, but suggest that further purchases of -,land add to -the existing facilities rather-than-take them away from-one area and give larger: facilities to another. -. The land in question is the most convenient, and to my- knowledge, -only, park within walking distance of the residents of the area:-bounded by Marshall and Lincoln, Snelling and Milton. Parks farther away do not serve-- the, interests of these. residents... I sincerely hope that'you and the City Council -will give - careful consideration to, these arguments before deciding to sell_part of Dunning Field.. Yours truly, Bruce AR Finlayson ,} !Y +1 Ire ell I� JOSEPH PRIFREL 47TH DISTRICT RAMSEY COUNTY 1091 WOOD15RIDGE STREET Sr. PAUL. MINNESOTA Commissioner Courthouse St. Paul 2, Dear Sir: State of Minnesota HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES L. L. DUXBURY, A., Speaker May 18, 1963 John Dalglish Minnesota COMMITTEES: CITIES OF THE FIRST AND SECOND CLASS CIVIL ADMINISTRATION EMPLOYEES' COMPENSATION INDUSTRIAL AND EMPLOYEE RELATIONS TAXES I am writing this letter to you due to the fact that Commissioner Frank Loss of Parks and Playgrounds has activated a move that would bring about the destruction of Dunning Field and particularly the stadium for baseball. It was built from the donations of pennies from the midget baseball players to the dollars of those playing in the city leagues, whereas collections have been made in the past on our amateur baseball day to bring about the completion of this place which is dedicated to baseball in the City of Saint Paul. The baseball stadium at Dunning Field has been developed, not as a construction of mortar, bricks, and steel, but is baseball in itself for our city. It is the ambition of every boy who plays in the amateur baseball leagues to be selected to play on a leading or championship tdam on that diamond. Being the past chairman of the Amateur Baseball Board and having been the phairman of the collections program that built that stadium, naturally I have a very close personal interest to what may happen. I have been approached by some persons who have an interest in Concordia College, and I can agree that there is a definite need for replacement of an athletic field for that school. However, it is quite difficult to conceive the destruction of a playgrounds that means so much to thousands of boys in our city. I can foresee a possible coordinated program with Concordia College, but I cannot see the complete surrender of the sacred place dedicated to baseball in our city. I am certain that in this letter I express to you the feelings of thousands who have played baseball and a large group of boys who t 2. Commissioner John Dalglish -i May 18, 1963 are actively participating in the sport today. I hope that you can see your way clear to bring about a solution to this problem without the destruction of a place so necessary not only for the boys and girls of our city, but to that location where your delinquency rate is unusually high and would destroy the only playgrounds that is in that area now. However, I am of the opinion that before any further moves are made in either direction on this proposal, meetings tMW be arranged with those of us who have continued the amateur athletic programs that were developed by our forefathers and who are vitally interested in the continuation of,.the same. I hope you will give due consideration to my request. Your truly, Jos h Prifrel r �I 1 ti May 20, 1963 MEMORANDUM To: Mrs. Agnes O'Connell City Clerk From: James J. Dalglish Commissioner of Finance Will you please have the attached letter read to the City Council. Thank you. attach. RECEIVED ;mot PAUL. n INN. In :AAY')R'S O•FFIL As MAY 29 1963 PM 7A MOMA 11213141516 mor28a1963 J, CbMisslomr ink Lobs Dopsrtftl* of NAM aIA "Maromda Court �1►uru�+,.,,. T, asp alcra" over amp _ or tb* eoum 11 fir atmrA cc the 'towordi,#t" imidea, Dw=ing Plsygrou d 19 OW Of th* Est 4OtiT_ lU tb* Olty and easny mcoessiblo, to tboumaPids of childr4m l' tbo MidVay . To decoy tbm a part of the field arA fps tbam baok on the streets vould be 0 detrbwnt t4 tba park slid' playground prwogr t '43' fho oity. 9WY truly IMS.. DOKl1t3 WM', �EW'. J p p V106 president, LMOO;dS -- • B. mortmater Z4e �mertira'n ?1egian 9aurt4 District, 39ept. of 411inuesuta - 1644 QIuurt �uuse Anint Paul - 2 PETER MONSOUR, COMMANDER CLAUDE WHITNEY, IST VICE COMMANDER AL FLUG, 2ND VICE COMMANDER HAROLD COOK, 3RD VICE COMMANDER MARY LOIS MARSH, 4TH VICE COMMANDER BERT H. RODENKIRCHEN, CHAIRMAN SERVICE BOARD MARY USENIK, CHILD WELFARE CHAIRMAN LESTER BRUNSCHON, TREASURER PAST FOURTH DISTRICT COMMANDERS OF THE AMERICAN LEGION HON. ALBIN S. PEARSON HARRY B. KLAUS CHARLES W. BRIGGS GERHARD J. BUNDLIE D. K. BALDWIN .IRIE MALLETTE DR. NELS O. MORTENSEN EDGAR G. VAUGHAN *FRED C. NELSON C. K. $. THORNTON ERNEST R. REIFF WILLIAM H. FALLON HARRY W. WALLIN *HERMAN C. BALSTER ROBERT G. FLYNN .JOSEPH W. FINLEY *WILLIAM F. LYNCH C. N. TOOMEY *ARTHUR GRANUM EDWARD J. CINCERA CLARENCE J. VOKOUN ABA J. ELDREDGE HARRY O. HORNE JOHN L. CONNOLLY FRED P. JORDAN C. W. FREDRICKSON CHARLES DELISLE NORMAN F. OLUOT AL W. PAUL FRANCIS A. SCHMIDT *FRANK J. RING ANTHONY J. FRATTO LAWRENCE W. SINGER FRANK J. SCHWIETZ FRANCIS V. MAHONEY WILLIAM F. PROETZ KENNETH C. CARLSON *PERRIER S. LECLAIRE CHARLES K. HARDING JOHN V GREEN WALTER E. GRUETZMAN FRANK O. LAMB WARREN PETERSON BERT H. RODENKIRCHEN HONORARY MEMBER ROY F. MORGAN .DECEASED The Honorable George Vavoulis and Members of the City Council City' and oun our House St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Sir: 1 i The attached communication from Mr. Moldenhauer was endorsed by the Fourth District Ramsey County Central Committee in meeting May 22nd, 1963 and is being forwarded to you for your consideration. May 26th, 1963 RECEIVED S. "'r PAUL, MINN. In MAYOR'S OFFICE A M MAY 2 8 1963 -71 qI ?I lot nin, I P M I �I 3141 �I¢ We ask that it be presented at the next Council meeting for consideration of the entire Council. AS /as Yours VAry Truly, Adjutant For the der EDWARD J. CINCERA, JUDGE ADVOCATE PASTOR H. P. SENFT. CHAIRMAN TOM KELLEY, HISTORIAN AL SMEBY, ADJUTANT BERT H. RODENKIRCHEN, PAST COMMANDER JOHN W. SCHULTZ. SERGEANT -AT -ARMS BEN HENDERSON, SERGEANT -AT -ARMS The Honorable George Vavoulis and Members of the City Council City' and oun our House St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Sir: 1 i The attached communication from Mr. Moldenhauer was endorsed by the Fourth District Ramsey County Central Committee in meeting May 22nd, 1963 and is being forwarded to you for your consideration. May 26th, 1963 RECEIVED S. "'r PAUL, MINN. In MAYOR'S OFFICE A M MAY 2 8 1963 -71 qI ?I lot nin, I P M I �I 3141 �I¢ We ask that it be presented at the next Council meeting for consideration of the entire Council. AS /as Yours VAry Truly, Adjutant For the der Fourth District Executive Board The American Legion St. Paul, Minnesota Legionailpres: May 21, 1963 It is our understanding that - Concordia College desires land now owned by the City -of St. Paul. This area, bounded by Carroll, Marshall, Syndicate and Griggs Streets, is used in the winter to locate hockey rinks and during Spring Summer and Fall months as baseball, softball and football fields for the use of students and athletic teams from St. Columba, Marshall Jr. High, St. Lukes, Immaculate Heart, St. Marks, vocational and other schools. During the evening hours softball games are scheduled on all diamonds. Mr. Frank Loss, City Commissioner, has let it be known that he is in favor of-selling this section of Dunning to the College and he will shortly seek City Council approval so that the'sale can be made. Concordia College, it is reported, desires this land so that they may further their present - building program. If the sale is made, it is our understanding that Griggs Street would have to be reopened and this would mean that the enclosed field, Dunning #4, would have to be moved and this would cut down the playing area on the laid retained by the City. The 4th District Legion Baseball Manager's Committee are in oppositions to this sale as we feel that the area in question should be retained as play- ground ;property. It is our sincere belief that many children residing or going to school in this Midway area would be deprived of their athletic fields and softball leagues would be forced to curtail their scheduled activities if Concordia College secured this land. It may even mean that several leagues would have-to be dropped from the program. The 4th District Baseball Committee, having gone on record in opposition to this contemplated deal, recommend that the 4th District American Legion prepare a letter supporting our views. Copies of this letter to be sent to the Mayor and members of the St. Paul City Council. Harry L. Moldenhauer 4th District Director American Legion Baseball HOLY NAME SOCIETY and MEN'S CLUB CHURCH OF ST. LUKE • 1079 SUMMIT AVENUE • ST. PAUL 5, MINNESOTA RT. REV. MSGR. JOHN J. CULLINAN May 24, 1963 SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR OFFICERS JOHN B. BURKE, JR., PRESIDENT 940 GOODRICH AVE. Common Council of the City of St. Paul DONALD SAULT, 1sT VICE PRES. Court House 1122 HAGUE AVE. c/o City Clerk St. Paul 2, Minnesota LYNN TRACY, 2ND VICE PRES. Gentlemen: 1248 HAGUE AVE. It is the desire of this organization that FRED JOHANNING. TREASURER your Council be advised of the unanimous action of its 763 PORTLAND AVE. members at its meeting May 14, 1963, protesting any conveyance or transfer of any portion of the Dunning FRED J. HALL, SECRETARY Field Playgrounds to any group or organization. The 826 OSCEOLA AVE. consensus of the meeting was that all of the existing property should be retained for the use originally planned and which is now more vitally needed in the DIRECTORS neighborhood than it has ever been. HAROLD FASCHINOBAUER ANTHONY REITER LEO DIEL St. Luke's Holy Name Society JOHN J.SWEENEY and Men's Club PHIL CHRISTMAN B Ha old J. 'Loughlin, HEAD USHER Cha Dunning Field E. A. FAIMON Committee HJ0 /lm dq FELHABER, LARSON AND FENLON ATTORNEYS AT LAW RICHARD S. FELHABER Gumv A. LARSON ROBERT J FENLON THo As M. VOGT EDWARD J BOHRER RICHARD J. BATTIs Mayor George Vavoulis Ramsey County Courthouse Saint Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Mayor Vavoulis : W-2562 FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING ST. PAUL 1, MINNESOTA CAPITAL 2 -6321 May 23, 1963 RECEIVED 1'4T PAUL, MINN. "-4A ` OR'S OFFICE MAY 27 1963 AM PM 1 �1�1�11U111118111�I�1��1� It has come to my attention that Concordia College in St. Paul has requested the opportunity to purchase Dunning Athletic Field for the purpose of incorporating that area into their campus. It is with this in mind that I am taking the opportunity to contact you to express an individual opinion. I certainly feel that it is important to take care of the expansion opportunities of colleges within the City of St. Paul, and am sympathetic to the needs of this college with respect to future expansion. However, I do believe that other facets of the population must be considered and the equities between the groups balanced before a final decision is made. In the recent past I had the opportunity to serve as the Chairman of a Citizen's Committee to study the use to be made of. Midway Stadium, including the final determination as to the location of Aldrich Arena. In that capacity, and with the Committee, we had the obligation to study recreational facilities in Ramsey County, and it became perfectly apparent that recreational facilities in the central area of the City of St. Paul are being neglected with our expanding population. With this in mind we re- commended that Aldrich Arena be located at the Midway Stadium site. The final decision of the County Commissioner was not in accord with the recommendation of our Citizen's Committee, and the Aldrich Arena has been located at its present site. Since this has been accomplished we have no argument with that decision but I believe an accurate examination of the facts will lead to the conclusion that the location of that arena has further emphasized the fact that the Midway- Central area of the City of St. Paul has been neglected in recent years in any expansion of recreational facilities. � a Mayor George Vavoulis Page 2 May 23, 1963 Certainly the City Council has a clear cut obligation to plan and have definitely committed itself to a replacement in the same vicinity of the Dunning facilities if they are to be taken over by Concordia College. If we are to discourage delinquency among the youth of this city we must provide recreational activities, including athletic facilities,in abundance. The area around Central High School has for many years, according to my understanding, presented a difficult problem for the Police Department of our city, and you can be assured that if athletic facilities are curtailed this problem will be compounded. With the foregoing thoughts in mind I respectfully request that a firm plan be initiated and begun prior to any final acceptance of the Concordia College plan. It is my opinion that you will have totally failed the youth of the area if this is not accomplished. It would not be unusual for a school to have to consider the possibility of relocation in the event the area is not able to accommodate its expansion. We all hope that this is not necessary in the instance of Concordia College, however, I do not feel that the interests of our youth should be sacrificed. RJ F / hj e Yours truly, Robert J. Wenlon ! •vim'..- •l •.�• 'rr 'a� • _ 1 � ', y- r - ... .. r ••r t�4 ]%' l' '}'S j- }�. � i2T ' 8 W. . _ f t. City ' of �5 t P,aul�- EXECUTIVE DEPARTM @NT F' �•.I C E 0 F T' H E MAYOR,''_.;. .' 347- CITY'-HALL t AND COURT HOUSE 4 ST ;-PAUL 2, MINNESOTA - - - - y. r• µ _ - _ _ c _ .. ... - _ � ` , ~ c T L- _. { ' -" .. __ ` = L• - •C( •: rte', !. . 'N <• .. - , _ • , May 27; 196 ,_ T _ Tc _ t!• C A `_ YJ: +" z Mr i'.. Robert, = Fenlvn Felhab.ers Larson` and Fenion W '256Z,ri st. Natioinal Bank bldg:. 'Is ,Paul Minnesota - —' J .- _ _ - fi is ..! - - '- ; _ ,: -, .. •- ! w` • r ♦ Y ' Daar Mr.. FehTon,t ; , - -T- -Writing you'.for'` wrtin ',me in co on wi Dunnin g Fie Id. �- . T, too; share ..your ` concern ' as o t ne •fo eeping this play ground-` area. ' t 'Concordia College, ha , a defi ite `fault , prob 'm through a no of their. o ; .t High ay. Dep tm' nt co em ing- property. _that'.be3onged.. to e , i t p _bl c to st. fe 1 that the 1 '- City should oop ra a 'iri hi r sp ib it and tr to. work out a ib' e- of tion'_w tYi° h .w nt o emp s a ha I 'have':opposed.',the. sa+3� of Du ni g .Fields t , he 'Co ire eve and will .do so- Y u txl`such:fine.as' ,continue .to _ 'su ab, "e acement or compromise situation `i w 13. I t ndful that you cannot- -take, awayt =` avelo . m' r- ere tion a as f r bogs and ir*ls. r w - ^y *. + ' . -_ i't F• • . ..� - - _' f• ,! ,. r1" 54 • -♦ S r.. -. .. a n 1 ,.r ► Couridill'Eisc's udyiri'g' :the 'ent ®. ilem4' ° and I ` ;pr'q =since " opa'"that we cari =work -out, a _satisfactory; solution, -both, _ : - for, Coneoridia•-College`.and ,for 'our boys, -and girls n°Aorder• to, --, - -.. _ maintain heir. pay.grou_ nd- areas ' . - _ i,�rr ' _ A. w ,t +* °i•.` - Ver y truly t'our's GEORGE :J. VAVOULIS r ( YTS i..• - •- r• - _' { b .n___ •. : .. ' - .< i• - 7!." - _Zt•' ., •. 1 " ' !�_ _ - .3: J1." �� •♦tom {lr,F•: *, .Ct •t'r'�' �, -` •'`i ,s: i'. -. �,_ rp. dam, ;• �.L•'r - , ;,p._r. . 4 ,- _ ., -- .. -' -` - - _.� -�, .i _- � � Y. . •. - - .1 p `�, _. � mss`' *�v �R_ -` �' -�. s Sent' Notice 'of :Hearing on = d5unning Field to following:_ Sent ufie; 3rd::*; Dr:• Wm: A.�' Pbehler I'�es:'; Concordia.: Mrs. _Reuel D. i- Harvion� Pres.' Cap. tol'- 'Community_Seruices� Inc." Mr.;Pau1-H; Giddens,_ =Pres. _110k University." = = Mr. Clifton G. ;Holmgren, Rxec., See., Midway Civic Club. mba en's, Club." Mr. -Richard, D. Johnson,'_Atty at4aw: Mr: William L.',Hur-ley; Mr: 'Johxi -D.- Barwise, �kidland -Bid g, _ �` 1 _ - �• „ -Mr. 'Ray G..- Mock,=Pres..St:Paul ; unic pal- Amateur E . C City 'Hall.'.-, aseba .. .5.7 Y ; ^I -' .Messrs. Ralph J;:Engebretson; -Jahn L: may S.; Ke11y,;Cent�ral High School'. v . T`1269 Mr. Bruce A; Finlaysori Hgue. >c• _ : Mr. - Joseph Prif're1, .'IO Woodbridge - D_omar Products; Ind.-.500 ,Cttn: Leo McCall'. r' 3 • _ ' r. Harry Moldenhauer, . ican Legio aseba is' c _/o` A;B. Smeby,'. Ad j: 1644 Court Housejo 'St. -Lukes Holy Name_~Soci- & --Men s`C ,- '1079:Siiminit -Ave- Attn:H_a � . , rnld J 0' Loughlin. Mr. Robert- J;L - - -Fe _ ,.` :tty• - µrY - - = ' Group Servic and Recr04t' bn'Cpuncil, X100 Wirier Bldg., 'Attn: Mrs. John earl., Mr.' Carl Ha- Sr•. Tres'; Timers' .ii-ot Stove League, 325,N. 15'IcCarrorr' Blvd. s Mr.- George: J.` sc , e�d Union Bxass &Metal Mfg: Co:. ` Mr; •'Ray' Perri'zo, Pres,: Sylvan'Booster- Club, 109Y. .Geraniuin. - „. s _ _ Mr. T. D;-Wright ;' Pre s:.Bd. o£ Trustees = Unity Church,---511 Grand Ave._ • , �,, i, ♦ - _`' -"� t ,� _ � ♦•.ti x -.. - - = .. •\C ,- Y .a`.5 `1- - _ _ • _ � mil Mr.::Ralph'A Rothstein,,` 1381;- Summit_• Ave . ti Mr.' Charles ,J.- _ Michel; .1567 Summit AvenueR: Mrs,. William` L; Lie t,+'Pres: Bd t 'of Diregtors; Hallie Q. Brown community House; 553 + �- - _ - .-Aurora.--Ave . Y Wm. T. Schumacher,'. Jr -.'; 1470 Bums - Ave.'s Treas., E,49th• Districts '- South, - D,.F.L. ' - _ _ -j _. _ -,- � -�•� . -yam ._.. -». .. - - - � ''. -.' _ �� OFFICE OF CITY CLERK BUREAU OF RECORDS 386 City Hall and Court House St. Paul 2, Minnesota a I To Interested Persons and Groups: June 3, 1963- i MRS. AGNES H. O'CONNELL Ci +y Clerk HAROLD J. RIORDAN Council Recorder The St. Paul City Council will conduct a public hearing on Tuesday, June 11, at 7:30 P. M. in the Council. Chamber on the 3rd. floor of the City Hall and Court House, on the matter of the advisa- bility of selling part of the Dunning Field property to Concordia College. Agnes H. O'Connell, City Clerk t CITY OF SAINT PAUL - MINNESOTA M 6 -g -63 i at ♦ • � � r �1 D r G z e P�iOwv>1. 1 0 a d zk-e- e aA'c' lq"v-t l-e"� a zae_ Alctrn,c� 13 "9'a 6��Yt9.Qc3.� iT'�ox.e. i�-�lE -167 RECEIVED SAINT PAUL, MINN. In MAYOR'S OFFICE A M JUN- 10.1963 FM �1�1�i�l�f�i 11$1$141 ads 6 0 / �. u� ©�� Ra- G ♦ 03 0 9 k' UNION BRASS & METAL MANUFACTURING COMPANY Mayor George Vavoulis City Hall 15 West Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Mayor Vavoulis: /;_ 68"0 Telephone • H Umboldt 9-1331 501 West Lawson Avenue REC]EfVtbJ JN C PAUL. MINN. In MAYOR'S OFFICE AM JUN 5 1963 'M ' �Igi911011111SIlISI�I4pol6 a St. Paul 17, Minnesota 963 Thank you very much for your reply to my letter regarding Dunning Field. Unfortunately, I will be out of the City on business June 11, the evening of the public hearing connected with it, but my feelings at this time are centered on two thoughts. First, that if Dunning Field is sold to Concordia College, equivalent space in the same area should be purchased for playgrounds without the children having to cross any dangerous freeways. Second, that this area needed by Central High School be main- tained close to the school so that transportation costs, etc. for Central High School not be required. With our ever increasing rise in costs for education, which is reflected in the tax bill I just paid last week, I feel that every economy in education without cutting services and facilities should be our prime target. Thank you very much for your interest in this part of the City, George, an on this have been warmly received by neighborhood. - Since ly, e Geo ge J. F GJK:j1 and help for the people d I'm sure your thoughts all of us in this particular Quality Plumbing Brass since 1892 nschnabel 2156 Stanford Ave. St. Paul, 5, Minn. Mr. George Vavoulis, Mayor City of St. Paul Court House St. Paul, 2, Minn. Dear Mr. Vavoulis: RECEIVED SAINT PAUL, N41o:N. In MAYOR'S OFFW AM JUN 191963 PM MAJAIA1411 MA ' ads k I would like to express to you and the members of the City Council my sentiments in regard to the proposed purchase by Concordia College of a portion of Dunning Field. I hope thpLt you, Mr. Vavoulis, and the members of the City Council will see fit to grant this request of Concordia College to purchase a portion of Dunning Field. Concordia College has been put in a tight spot through no fault of their own by the condeglnation of their former athletic field and its purchase by the State of Minnesota. This portion of Dunning which Concordia pro- poses to buy will be of great benefit to the college in their expansion as a four year college and as the college has proposed, this portion will still be available to be used by the public for much of the time. As I understand the recommendations of Mr. Loss, our Parks Commissioner, the money the City of St. Paul will receive in this purchase can be used to buy a number of other tracts of land so that the over —all recreational program of the entire city will not suffer but will possibly-be benefited. On May 1st of this year I completed 25 years as a resident and taxpayer of the city and I have resided at my present address for the last 23 years. Being the father of three children, 2 of whom were boys, but now all grown, I have always been vitally interested in a strong recreational and parks program for the city. I would not recommend that the above proposal be granted if I felt the city program would suffer. Very truly yours, Paul H. Schluter R CEIVED x Sa' NT PAUL, ••,IN7;. In ;AAYOR'S 4FFIi �►ao JuN 19 1981" p M -1319 Dayton Avenue St. Paul 4,' Minnesota June 19', 1963 Mayor George Vavoulis- and'C_ity Councils Members City Hall - y W. Kellogg Blvd. and Wabasha,St.. St. Paul 2, Minnesota Gentlemen: Having attended the open meeting in the Council Chambers on the evening of June 11 and having listened to the arguments regarding the -sale of a portion of Dunning Field to Concordia College,,both my wife and I feel that you should act favorably u'bbn this matter. We are voting residents of St. Paul, living in' the Dunning Field community and-we are convinced that the sale is definitely in the public interest. Yours very truly, -_�' -_ - _. _-__ - -__ tom.-.- _' __ '- f �_: ._�. ��"- -- .. �._... -' �. -� -. - -•.``. -_� _.. - .- .r _- _T_ - �.. � _ -• --_ RECEIVED �,•.(�t'f PAUL, In MAYOR'S OFFICE AM JUN 19 1963 FM $I81$110IUII �i$i!'! °!s OSWALD B. OVERN 1427 BREDA AVENUE SAINT PAUL 13, MINNESOTA Mayor Vavoulis City Hall 15 W. Kellogg Blvd. Saint Paul, Minnesota Dear Sir: June 17, 1963 As a citizen of Saint Paul for over forty years, I should like to put in a word in favor of the proposed sale of part of Dunning Field to Con- cordia College. Judging from the reports in the newspapers, I cannot help but feel that this sale would be in the public interest and would be of benefit to all concerned. Very truly yours, Lou Midler 9F W-A& President. ASSOCIATION OF COMMERCIAL CLUBS, Inc. "q,621ted action foz a &Uzz cSalnt SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Hon. Mayor George Vavoulis, City Hall, St.Paul, Minnesota. 1856• Marshall IY, 2RTIN Secretary , RECEI • ED' S %INT PAUL, Mlt.N. In :4 -AYOR'S OFFIC F AM JUN 171963 !u MitVIViA MIQ1*1511f Dear Mayor; A RE: Dunning Field. Several of our member clubs of the Association of Commercial-Clubs are interested in the proposed sale Iof part of Dunning Field to Concordia College. This matter came up at our May meeting and a request went out to Commissioner Loss for details. At this time a study is being made but no action can be taken until our June 26th. meeting. Due to the fact that this matter is of vital interest to the majority of our member clubs we would appreciate the consideration of yourself and members of the council in defering hearing on same until after June 26th. May we ask for this recognition as we feel that our group represents the largest group of citizens in our city. Kindly take this up at the next meeting of the council and notify our president, Lou Midler, 1018 Portland Ave, at once as to action taken. I will be out of the city all next week at the State Eagles Convention in Duluth so Lou will handle details. With Best Wishes, Vern W. Ma tin Secretary. COMO COMMERCIAL CLUB HAZEL PARK COMMERCIAL CLUB NORTH END IMPROVEMENT CLUB DAYTONS BLUFF COIAT CLUB HIGHLAND PARK COMT CLUB RIVERVIEW COMMERCIAL CLUB SNELLING AVENUE COWL CLUB WEST END COMMERCIAL CLUB CITY PLANNING BOARD OF /'z 6 f"D SAINT PAUL 1315 CITY HALL AND COURT HOUSE SAINT PAUL 2, MINNESOTA phone Co 4.4612 ExI.251 Honorable George Vavoulis Mayor, City of Saint Paul Room 347, Courthouse Dear Mayor Vavoulis: June 4, 1963 REaCFAVED In JUN 5 'QF3 AM FM k The attached material relating to the Dunning Field matter is being forwarded to you for your information. The City Planning Board considered the question of the proposed sale of a portion of Dunning Field and voted in favor of its retention in its present form and use. The following material is attached: 1. Staff report on proposed land sale which was pre- sented to the Planning Board. 2. Copy of a legislative bill relating to the proposed transfer which I understand was withdrawn. 3. Copy of the deed of conveyance by which the City ob- tained title to the land from the State of Minnesota. If you have any questions concerning this information or desire additional information, please do not hesitate to call upon me. HCW:FS Enc - 3 Very truly yours, r Dn Herbert C. Wieland, A.I.P. Director of City Planning (Copy) City Bill No. 27 A BILL FOR AN ACT AUTHORIZING A CONVEYANCE OF CERTAIN LANDS FROM THE STATE TO THE CITY OF ST. PAUL ; AND PROVIDING FOR A RELEASE OF CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND RESERVATIONS CONTAINED IN A PRIOR DEED FROM THE STATE TO THE CITY. ; BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA: Section 1. (CONVEYANCE TO CITY -OF ST. PAUL; RELEASE OF CONDITIONS IMPOSED IN DEED FROM STATE.) The governor and the state Auditor in behalf of the State of Minnesota shall convey to the'city of "St. Paul, Minnesota, without consideration by a quitclaim deed in a form approved by the attorney general the following described real estate lying and being in the county of Ramsey: All of blocks 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 9 and 10 in D. W. _ Ingersoll's addition to the city of St. Paul, according to the accepted and recorded plat thereof on file in the office of the register of deeds of Ramsey County. The deed to be so executed and delivered by the state of Minnesota to ,the city of St. Paul, Minnesota, shall recite that it is executed to forever release and discharge the -above described real estate from those express con- ditions and reservations imposed on said land by the state of Minnesota in that certain deed of conveyance dated October 10, 1912, and filed.in the office of the register of deeds in and for Ramsey County, Minnesota, in book 597 of deeds, page 139, Document Number 430346, from the state of Minnesota to the city of St. Paul, Minnesota executed and delivered by the state of Minnesota to the city of St. Paul, Minnesota, pursuant to Laws 1911, Chapter 163, which deed conveyed to the city of St. Paul., Minnesota, the above described lands. Sec. 2.- The deed provided for herein shall be executed and delivered as soon as practicable after the passage of this act. March 5, 1963 r 4 Page 139 C 0 P Y #430346 This Indenture, Made this 10th day of October, 1912, by and between the State of Minnesota, as party of the first part,.and the City of St. Paul, a municipal corporation of the State of Minnesota, as party of the second part, Witnesseth: That the said party of the first part for and in consider- ation of the sum of Seventy Thousand Dollars ($70,000.00) to it in hand paid by the said party of the second part, the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged has granted, bargained, sold, and conveyed and by these presents does grant, bargain, sell and convey unto the said party of the second party, its successors and assigns, forever, all its right, title and interest in and to the following described premises situate in the City'of St. Paul, County of Ramsey and State of Minnesota, to -wits Blocks one (1), two (2), five (5) -, six (6), seven (7), nine (9) and ten (10) in D. W. Ingersoll's Addition to the City of St. Paul, according to the accepted and recorded plat thereof on file in the office of the Register of Deeds of Ramsey County, Minnesota. To Have and to Hold the same to the said party of the second part, its successors and assigns, forever, for educational purposes and as a perpetual playground for the children'of the City of St. Paul. This. conveyance is made under the authority of Chapter 163 of the General Laws of the State of-Minnesota for the year 1911. In Witness Whereof, The party of the first part has hereunto caused its name to be signed and its seal to be affixed by the Governor and Auditor of the State of Minnesota, duly authorized thereto by the act aforesaid. Signed, sealed and delivered--------------- - - - - -- in presence of: (The Great Seal of the) Bessie -D. Hayes_ (State of Minnesota ) Veda Shepard ( - - -- -1858 ------ - - - -). (---------------- - - - - -) (,Seal of the Auditor of) ( MINNESOTA 9 State of Minnesota By Adolph G. Eberhart, Governor Samuel G. Iverson, Auditor. I C 0 P Y 140 State of Minnesota ) X ss County of Ramsey ) On this 10th day of October, 1912; before .me appeared Adolph- 0.`Eberhart, and Samuel G. Iverson who being by me first duly sworn, did say each for himself,- - o> that the said Adolph 0. Eberhart, is the Governor and the said Samuel G. Iverson is the Auditor, of the State of Minnesota, that the seal-impressed upon the fore- going instrument is the seal-of said State; that said instrument was signed and, sealed on behalf of the said State of Minnesota by the authority of Chapter 163 of the General Laws of the State of Minnesota for the year 1911, and the said Adolph 0. Eberhart, and Samuel G. Iverson acknowledged the foregoing instrument to -be the free act and deed of -the said State of Minnesota. _ _ _ _ Bessie D. Mayes; ' Notarial Seal ) Notary Public,, Ramsey County, Minnesota. ( Ramsey County, Minn. ) My commission expires Aug. 8, 1919 -------- - - - - -- Approved as to form and execution this 24th day of October,-1912 J. P. Kyle Asst. Corporation Attorney. City Treasurer's Office, St. Paul, Minn. Oct. 24, 1912, Assessment paid. ' S. A. Farnsworth, City Treas. By Beyer. Filed for record on the 26 day of Oct. A.D. 1912, at 10 :40 o'clock A.M. REPORT ON SOFTBALL FIELD LOCATION AND THE DUNNING FIELD- CONCORDIA COLLEGE QUESTION BACKGROUND In a letter dated January 21, 1963, Commissioner Frank L. Loss of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Public Buildings requested that the City Planning Board recommend on a site for two lighted softball fields which would be used for city- wide league play* Commissioner Loss stated in his letter than this action is being considered because the parking area formerly used in conjunction with a softball facility at Dunning Field has been taken by the Highway Department in connection with freeway construction. Another consideration involved is that Concordia College has requested that a portion of Dunning Field be sold or leased to them, for use in the College expansion program. In addition to the problem of relocating the lighted softball field now'at Dunning Field, it is indicated by Commissioner Loss that a second such facility is needed. A site - recommendation located somewhere in the area between Rice Street and Snelling Avenue, and north of Interstaite # 94 is requested. LIGHTED SOFTBALL FIELDS In Community Plan Report # 9, "Saint Paul's Plan for Educational, Recreational and Cultural Facilities," it was recommended that four locations be utilized and developed as city -wide League Fields* These are: the McMurray Field- Midway- Stadium complex, Dunning Field, Harriet Island, and Duluth Playground. Of these only the McMurray Field- Midway Stadium complex is within the area outlined by Commissioner Loss. Harriet Island, while not within the specified area, does have a relatively central location and would likely be readily available. Both of these locations have certain advantages in common. Both have �JW3 rela- tively unused areas that would be easily developable for the required purposes, both have good accessibility by private auto, both have adequate parking space9 both are in locations where the glare of the lights, the noise, and traffic Would have no detrimental effect on residential areas. McMurray Field - Midway Stadium Complex - This location lies within the area of the City as outlined in Commissioner Loss's letter. The McMurray Field portion of this complex is already heavily used and adequate parking is not available* Further, if the proposed Zoo expansion is realized, part of McMurray field will be involved* The long_ -range plan for this complex, as recommended in Community Plan Report # 9, involves acquisition of the vacant area lying between Hamline Avenue and Pascal Avenue and between Wynne Avenue and the Northern Pacific Railroad tracks. This tract measures approximately 625 feet x 1290 feet, and has an area of about 18,5 acres, Acquisition of this land would have the effect of tying Como Park and McMurray Field, through the proposed acquisition, to the Midway Stadium area. This complex then could be developed into a high -level tournament type athletic facility with space for several types of activities and for parking There are two areas within this proposed complex within which the two lighted softball fields could be located, at least for the time being. The first of these areas is the land proposed for acquisition and this would, of course, depend on funds being currently available for purchase of at least a portion of this land. The second area consists of that portion of the Midway Stadium site lying east of Jones Street. This land was originally intended for future stadium parking but has not been developed and currently lies vacant. There is adequate parking adjacent and the site should be easy to develop for the proposed use. It has good accessibility by private auto but has only fair access by public transit. It is understood that this site presently serves as a ponding area for storm water, but it is felt that detailed study should be given to determine if the proposed facilities could be established on the site without hampering the ponding function. It appears that there would be room for one softball field east of the ponding area. Harriet Island - This site is located just across the Wabasha Street bridge r�`om Downtown and presently receives little use. The site is level and should be easy to develop for the proposed use. Access by both private auto and public transit is good and adegbate parking is available. Recent levee con- struction that has been going on adjacent to and on the site is largely complete as far as the moving of earth is concerned and should present no hindrance to the establishment of the proposed softball fields. This location is adjacent to the River and is not protected by the recently constructed floodwall. Therefore, it would be subject to periodic flooding. Corps of Engineers records indicate a flood stage of 698.2 feet may be expected about every four years. Most of Harriet Island lies at an elevation of 700 - 710 feet and would not be effected by this 698.2 -foot stage. The highest flood stage for the period of record (1867 - present) occurred in 1952 when a level of 706.2 feet-was reached. Indicated frequency of flooding of that magnitude is once in about eighty years. Therefore, flooding should not present much of a problem in terms of the pro- posed use. What infrequent flooding might occur would be in early spring before the softball season would normally be underway. DUNNING FIELD - CONCORDIA COLLEGE PROBLEM It seems that the larger question involved, as far as the Citizen Board is concerned, is that of the proposal to relinquish a portion of the existing Dunning Field to Concordia College for its expansion program. This problem involves a question of Public policy, namely, should needed and well -used public land become fair game for interested private or semi - public parties. DUNNING FIELD - CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX Central High School and Dunning Field orm a p c use complex o a ceut o8 acres which is bounded on the east by Lexington parkway, on the south by Marshall Avenue, on the west by Syndicate Street and Griggs Street, and an the north by Rondo Avenue and Carroll Avenue. This complex is divided into three fairly distinct areas: (1) The eastern end comprising about 11,,9 acres occupied by Central High School and Central Stadium; (2) the center portion comprising about 13.4 acres and occupied by a baseball field and stands, a lighted softball field, two secondary baseball fields, eight tennis courts, and eight shuffleboard courts; and (3) the western end comprising about 7.5 acres and occupibd 'by a recreation shelter building and six softball fields (also two football fields, a hockey rink and a general skating rink in season). It is this western portion in which Concordia College apparently has interest. -2- I L K - Use and Participation - The primary use of Dunning Field is by the organized athletic programs sponsored by the City and various other groups. These participants are largely teenagers and young adults. However, the facility also serves as a seasonal center for the city recreation program which involves mostly younger childreno The seasonal center function takes place primarily on the western end of the complex previously described, and in which Concordia College is interested. The Dunning Field seasonal center has 894 registered participants for the 1961-62 year. This is by far the greatest number-of registered participants of any of the fifteen seasonal canters and exceeds the number of registered par- ticipants at six of the twenty -two year around centers. Of these registered participants 863 or 96.6% are under eighteen years of age. In the five year period between the 1957 -58 and 1961-62 years, registered participation in- creased at the Dunning seasonal center by 813.0. Almedt half of the registered participants come from recreation area IIIA which lies roughly between St. Clair and Marshall Avenues, and runs from Lexington Avenue to the west city limits. Recreation areas II-B, IV -B, and V account for most of the remainder of the registered participants. Together these four areas form a corridor running from the dowintown westward to the city limits, and lying between University-Avenue on the north and St. Claim, Pleasant and Irvine Avenues on the south. This is an area of the City that was indicated in Community Plan Report 0 9 as being notoriously short of public recreation land and facilities. There is no other public recreation facility in this area capable of assuming the function that the Dunning seasonal center now serves. In addition to the registered participation, the Dunning facility is used by numerous other groups such as public and private schools, church leagues and other privately sponsored recreational groups, and for free play. Therefore, the registered participants represent only a part, and probably a small one, of the total number of users of:tnis facility. CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS Softball Field-Location - It appears that-the McMurray Field - Midway Stadium area s t e o�ly Vens le area for the development of additional lighted fields within the portion of the City outlined. Harriet Island should also be seriously considered. There area problems involved in both of these areas and since this question is one of detail, it is recommended that the precise location of these facilities be determined through collaboration of the technical staffs of the City Planning Board and the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Public Buildings. Dunning Field_ - Concordia Collage Problem r If that portion of Dunning Field presently serving as a seasons .recreat,on center were disposed of, it would seem that one or more replacement playgrounds would be required to serve the area that the Dunning facility now serves. While the long -range plan for recreational facilities recommends the establishment of several now neighborhood playgrounds in the west central portion df the City, such action does not seem financially feasible.at this time. The land at Dunning Field would command little more then the vacant land price while replacement land in this area of the City would have-to be.ohtained by condemnation and clearance of primarily developed land. Therefore, if the problem resolves to one of purchasing developed land for the purpose of establishing a neo use thereon,, then this burden should logically fall on Concordia College and not oa the public,. ffe'n / . - V J Even if the neighborhood center - function were removed from Dunning Field and replaced at several new neighborhood playgrounds (as should be the long -range objective) the total acreage of Dunning Field as it exists would still be needed an4 s1kould be retained for Central High School and the city -wide athletic program. National standards call for a minimum site for a high school the size of Central that is seven acres lar er than the present CentrAl High - Dunning Field complex c 1ne= In view of the present intensity of use of the Dunning Field complex, the need for more, not less, public recreation space in the west central portion of the City; and the present inability to provide additional needed land to serve the area-,'the staff recommends that the Planning Board take a strong position against relinquishing any portion of Dunning Field to Concordia College. Further it is recommended that the Planning Board adopt a policy of opposing any sale or disposal of public recrea- tional land not in accordance with the "Proposed Plan for Public Educa- tional, Racmational and Cultural Facilities," Community Plan Report 9, and then only if suitable replacement facilities are first provided. 4.. The staff would suggest that Concordia College look to developed land to the west and south of the present campus and to vacant land north of the Interstate Route # 94 right -of -way to satisfy the expansion needs of the college. 3/V63 I 51FAam 20 Yn ct IPV tA ' June, ••16�.._� 61 _ _ 1:26,9 'Hague. , y _ St' PauL.41. I4inn. The' Honorable George' J,-._- V.avoulis _ 1 �layor of-Saint Paul- 327 City Hall- and. Court House.. Saint Paul. 2 ?_ Minnesota.. ± Dear Yr. Mayor:- - I previously had- ,r-egistere&,my.,, prot-e.s:t_ against the_ sale, of�part of Dunning- Field: to Go�card a_ College. h- ��° ` -a 'now` convinced -'that `thiale: would• be i;dr- e s'Ys __public interest., _ _ After.listening to,the arguments,presented to the- City Council. June 11-`, , and after reading Commissioner _ Zossls pr,opo -sals I. feel that:, i) The -plans for further.development of the remaining portion of Dunning_ Field' -and the movement of organized leagues - elsewhere will gi.ve_more useable. play area to the residents - .surrounding Dunning Field *. ii)- The expanded- softball- and - base.ba]_l,- fields elsewhere will give better facilities t -o the organized leagues- (who.. come in.- cars anyway so the location of their. fields - is relatively unimportant); _ iii) Concordia College would -then, have - a satisfactory athletic; field., The economics -o.f the sale_ and development -of land, etc..) must be carefully. considered. to insure_ that Commissioner ' Loss's plans . are,_ feasible:,, but if they are., their adoption, would.. mean- that everyone, would-win, and no.. one. would lose. With these .thoughts. , in mind I, now favor the.- sale - -_af pant.:. oft, Duaning=Fieldr�to�C.oncordia College._ Yours, truly,., /�"oo 2 Q � Bruce A.:_ Finlayson c -c .:.. Commissioner Frank h..: Loss Department of Parks and Re- creation and Public Buildings 545 City Hall. and Court House, Saint Paul_ 2, Minnesota. UNION BRASS & METAL MANUFACTURING COMPANY Mayor George Vavoulis City Hall 15 West Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul 2, Minnesota Dear Mayor Vavoulis: RECEIVED ti t^41- PAUL, In %4AYr)R'S OFFIC1` A M MAY 2 2 1963 F M �I8I �110I�I�i i i�I �I �I aIs 4 Telephone • H Umboldt 9-1331 501 West Lawson Avenue St. Paul 17, Minnesota May 20, 1963 If the sale of Dunning Field is carried out as currently corntemplated by the City Council, the Midway area will be deprived of its only real playgound facility, since the money from the sale of Dunning will be used for additional playgrounds but spread throughout the City. As a Midway resident residing at 1425 Summit Avenue, this is our only playground close by and actually has only become really accessible to smaller children with the construction of the Hamline Avenue bridge. Besides the thousands of children that use Dunning Field for organized sports, please consider the many other thousands that use the sunken Dunning skating rink through the Winter months. Also, please keep in mind the huge groups of Central High School students that use Dunning for their own Physical Education programs. It is difficult to comprehend the sale of this playground property since the freeway is not taking over Concordia's athletic field. This field will remain and still will be usable. The freeway is already going to take part of Dunning but is not going to hamper the softball fields or the skating rinks. Another difficulty in this is that under our Parks and Playgrounds Department rules colleges have first choice on reservations for all athletic fields. Therefore, Concordia has first choice on Dunning Field if it is an athletic field that they need without any other program hampering them since the reservation choice begins with colleges, high schools and on down. If Concordia needs athletic fields, they already have them with Dunning Field as it currently is with no problems connected in getting reservations for usage. If this property is sold to Concordia, you will see it full of buildings in the next few years and not being used as an athletic field as portrayed to the Council in the last few weeks. I strongly urge the City Council to vote against he sale of Dunning Field to any college or enterprise, but to keep the ra S cerely P GJK:jl Geor a J. b el QiA Gene al S er Quality Plumbing Brass since 1892 !j I • �ta� OF SERVICE UNION SYMBOLS This b •fast mesa a DL Letter Nunless its deferred chat- NL -Night Lena • actor is indicates by the TELEGRAM SF -1201 (480) International proper symbol. LT= Later Tek�ram W. P. MARSHALL. P•aaiotutr The filing time shown in the date line on domestic telegrams is LOCAL TIME at point of origin. Time of receipt is LOCAL TIME at point of destination • • • • • • • 226A CST MAY 17 63 MC011 M SPA009 NL PD ST PAUL MINN 16 MAYOR GEORGE VAVOULIS COURT HOUSE ST PAUL MINN MEMBERSHIP DISCUSSED PENDING SALE OF PORTION OF DUNNING FIELD TO CONCORDIA COLLEGE. PRESENT RECREATION CENTERS ARE BADLY OVERCROWDED LOSS OF THIS AREA WILL BE BLOW TO CITIZENS OF ST PAUL HOWEVER WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR EDUCATIONAL EXPANSION WE FEEL THAT SALE SHOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON PURCHASE OF A NEW SITE TO PROVIDE SIMILAR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES SYLVAN BOOSTER CLUB_ RECEIVED � %JN . PAUL. MINN. In MA ,')r „S OFFICE �M MAY 171963 'M �,I,81$11Ot�1ffiI 11`�I�I'�I SIB • • • • • • • • • • •