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OF INT PAUL, MINNESOTA
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WHEREAS, the Legislative Hearing Officer recommends that a request to add a(ID #0015999) Liquor -
Outdoor Service Area (Patio) license to the existing licenses for Liquor On Sale-100 seats or less, Liquor On
Sale—Sunday, Liquor On Sale-2 AM Closing, Entertainment (A), Restaurant (B�more than 12 seats,
Gambling Location and Cigarette/Tobacco for Tom Scanlon, Owner, Scanlon's Pub Inc., doing business as
Dubliner Pub at 2162 University Avenue West be approved with the following conditions:
1. Signage will be posted by the doorway leading to the patio reminding customers to show respect and
consideration for the neighbozs.
2. No amplified music shall be broadcast on the patio after 10:00 p.m. on Sunday through Thursday nights and
after I 1:00 p.m. on Friday and Saturday nights.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby approves this license
application.
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Approving the license application with conditions, per the Legislative Hearing Officer, ro add a(ID#0015999) Liquor-Outdoor
Service Area (Patio) license to existing Iicenses for Tom Scanlon, owner, Scanlon's Pub Inc., doing business as Dubliner Pub, 2162
University Avenue West.
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Chnstopher 8. Coleman, Mayor
DEPARTMENT OF SAFEN AND INSPECTIONS
Bob Kesslu, �veCOr
Web Sle Atltlress. ww+islpaul.gov/dsi
COMMERCE BUICDING
Slite 2W Telephone: (65]) 2669090
8 Fourth Street Eas: Facsimile (C51) 2669099
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I agree to the following conditions being placed on the following license(s):
License #: 20070001876
Type of Business: Entertainment (B)
Liquor On Sale - 2 AM Closing
Malt On Sale (Strong)
Restaurant (B) - more than 12 seats
Wine On Sale
Applied for by: DARA THAI INC
Doing Business As: DARA THAI RESTAURANT
at:
769 MILTON ST N
ST PAUL MN 55104
Conditions are as foffows:
1. The sale of Wine and Beer will take place only in conjunction with the sale and service of food.
2. The kitchen shall remain open and food service shall be provided at all times that wine and beer are
being served.
3. Licensee will provide annually copies of gross receipts from the sales of food, wine, and beer,
showing at least sixty (60) percent attributable to the sale of food.
4. My remodeling or expansion of this facility must be reviewed by DSI prior to beginning a project.
5. Licensee will not allow any loitering behind the building of the licensed business.
6. The ficensee shall build an interior service area in the back o4 his business (along Chatsworth
Street) that would inciude a sound-proof wali which would prevent music being played inside to be
hsard by those outside. The entertainment license, if approved, will not be issued until this condition is
met and the building permit is finaled.
7. The iicensee must never prop open back doors during business hours {on the Chatsworth Street
side).
8. The Iicensee may not dis�ose of beer bottles into his dumpster between the hours of 8:00 p.m. to
8:00 a.m.
9. Trash coilection for this business is al(owed to take place only between the hours of 7:�0 a.m. and
9:00 p.m.
10. The licensee must maintain video surveillance cameras in the front and back of the licensed
premises. The number, quality, and placement of cameras must be approved by SPPD. License
holder will keep the video surveillance cameras in good working order, Tapes/recordings must be
maintained for a minimum of 30 days and must be available immediately upon request by a license
inspector or the St. Paul Police Dept.
11. The license holder sfiall make sure that all exterior refuse, glass and trash that is on the
premises, from the front door of the business to Chatsworth Street, is removed from the licensed
premises on a daily basis.
12. This establishment must dose for business no later than 12:00 midnight, each night of the week.
The licensee may request a review of this condition after six months.
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LICENSE HEARING MINUTES
Dubliner Pub located at 2162 University Avenue West
Friday, October 5, 2007, 10:00 a.m.
330 City Hatl, 15 Kellogg Boulevard West
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 10:15 a.m.
Staff Present: Reid Soley, Department of Safety and Inspections (DST); and Jean Birkholz,
Council Research.
Others Present: James Goldberg, owner, Midwest Hotel, 2144 University Avenue
Dubliner Pub: Add Liquor Outdoor Service Area (Patio) license (I.D. #0015999) to the existing
licenses for Liquor On Sale-100 seats or less, Liquor On Sale—Sunday, Liquor On Sale-2 AM
Closing, Entertainment (A), Restaurant (B}—more than 12 seats, Gambling Location and
Cigarette/Tobacco
Ms. Moermond noted that Mr. Thomas Scanlon, owner of Dubliner Pub, was not present. That is a
problem because at this level, many license conditions need to be acceptable to the applicant. Normally,
the conditions would be negotiated with Mr. Scanlon. Without him being present, iYs difficult to
negotiate. Ms. Moermond cannot force conditions to be placed upon the license. In order to force
conditions, the process needs to go through an administrative law }udge and then back to the City
Council again. Ms. Moermond will suggest conditions to deal with whatever concerns come up and
staff will communicate them with Mr. Scanlon.
Mr. Reid Soley, DSI, provided a staff report. He stated that Tom Scanlon is president of Scanlon's Pub
Inc., doing business as Dubliner Pub, 2162 University Avenue West. There are no conditions placed on
their licenses at this time. On July 5, 2007, the Land Use Committee of the Saint Anthony Park
Community Council (District 12) recommended a waiver of the 45-day notice period for the issuance of
the Liquor-Outdoor Service Area (Patio) license and on July 11, 2007, the City Council granted the
waiver, so this patio is currently being used. Concerning inspection requirements, there are no Building
issues. Environmental Health, License and Zoning all have approved it. Fire doesn't need to check-off
on this license. The Department of Safety and Inspections recommends approval.
Mr. Goldberg stated that he is not against the patio, although so far, Mr. Scanlon has not built a patio but
instead, has put out four (4) tables. Mr. Goldberg has no problem with that. He, Mr. Scanlon and
Councilmember Benanav had a meeting on August 8, 2007 at which time Mr. Goldberg expressed his
concem about noise. Mr. Scanlon said that he would try to cut down the noise. He agreed to put up
signs but he didn't do it. Mr. Goldberg said that he does not have a problem with liquor; he has a
problem with the noise that is produced when people are drinking and having fun. The noise disturbs
the sleeping of the people who live in his hotel, especially those who open the windows instead of using
the air conditioner. The worst time is on the weekends. People are out there making noise until 2 a.m.
People are going outside to smoke because of the smoking ban. At the meeting, Mx. Goldberg asked
that the patio be open until 10 p.m. only for liquor sales. When the meeting was over, Mr. Scanlon said
that there would also be music speakers outside. So, if there's music, the people will speak even louder.
Mr. Goldberg asked Mr. Scanlon and Mr. Benanav who would reimburse him for the business he will be
losing. He thinks that maybe he will need to take it to court. Mr. Goldberg explained that when the
Dubliner Pub puts up their tent for St. Patrick's Day, iYs not only for one (1) day but four (4) days; the
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next year iY s for six (6) and people have no where to pazk, so they park in his lot. He needs to hire
security and put up No Parking signs; although they are disregarded. Mr. Goldberg reiterated that he is
asking the City to have Mr. Scanlon close down the patio at 10 p.m. He read a recent article regazding
the Shamrock Baz and Restaurant:
The Council agreed to aliow restaurant service on a patio on the condition that the patio service
cease by 10 p.m. The patio does not offer live music or recorded music which is a valid City
ordinance. Shamrock's must also install security cameras, store video tapes from cameras for
thiriy (30) days and tum them in to the police on request. Shamrock's will also make no attempt
to seek a sepazate application for liquor service on the patio.
Mr. Goldberg asked what the difference was between Shamrock's and the Dubliner. He thinks that
maybe because Shamrock's is in a residential neighborhood, there are more people who would
complain. The Dubliner is located in a primazily commerciai neighborhood and close at 5 p.m.;
however, Mr. Goldberg is the only one with a residential facility, so he is the only one to complain.
Ms. Moermond stated that with respect to the noise ordinance, she does understand the frustration with
getting enforcement. Even if a condition were placed onto the license, one would still need to call the
police if one felt that the condition was being violated. Ms. Moermond suggested that signage could be
placed outside that would address Dubliner's patrons respecting the neighbors in trying to keep the noise
under control, and she would recommend it in this particular situaxion. Ms. Moermond noted that she is
inclined to ask Mr. Scanlon if he would abide by a condition and agree to have a condition about the
hours of operation on the patio, but she added that she cannot force that condition on him. It would need
to be a condition that he would accept. If he doesn't accept it, Ms. Moermond stated Yhat she is not
inclined to tell the City Council that they should send the matter off to an administrative law judge. She
thinks that the City would lose and she doesn't think it would be a good use of taxpayer dollars. With
respect to the difference between Shamrock's and the Dubliner, the owner of the Shamrock agreed to
abide by the conditions. The owner of the Shamrock was engaged with that conversation with the
Council office and also with the neighbors.
Ms. Moermond asked staff to draft a condition about the signage issue and also a condition relating to
having no amplified music outside after 10 pm on Sunday through Thursday and after ll pm Friday and
Saturday. The City will ask Mr. Scanlon to sign those conditions. In the absence of those conditions,
Mr. Moermond stated that she will recommend that the City Council approve the license without
conditions. The only other option she has is to recommend that the City Council refer this matter to an
administrative law judge and have the conditions forced upon the license. Ms. Moermond is concerned
that in that event, the City would not prevail and she doesn't think that it would be a good use of
taYpayer money to send this matter of£ Mr. Goldberg responded that he is not going to lose his
business; he has no choice except to take this to court.
Ms. Moermond recommended approval with the following conditions:
1. Signage will be posted by the doorway leading to the patio reminding customers to show respect and
consideration for the neighbors.
2. No amplified music shall be broadcast on the patio after 10:00 p.m. on Sunday through Thursday
nights and after 11:00 p.m. on Friday and Saturday nights.
The hearing was adjourned at 10:40 a.m. Jjab