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RESOLUTION
CITY OF
Presented By
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2 WHEREAS, Karin DuPaul made application to the Heritage Preservation Commission
3 (hereinafter, the "FIPC") in HPC File No. 06-396 for a building pernut to construct a two-stall,
4 two-story gazage on property commonly known as 668 Greenbrier Street located within the
5 Dayton's Bluff Historic District; and
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WHEREAS, on August 24, 2006, the HPC, after having provided notice to affected property
owners, conducted a public hearing on the said building permit application where all interested
parties were given an opportunity to be heard;
WHEREAS, at the close of the hearing, the HPC, based upon all the testimony and records
before it, approved the building permit application based upon the following finds set forth in
HPC Resolution No. 06-347 as follows and which were further provided to the applicant in a
letter from the HPC to the applicant dated August 25, 2006:
The property is considered pivotal to the character of the Dayton's Bluff Historic
District.
2. Although window and door materials and details were not provided, the overall design of
the gazage is compatible with the overall design ar�d materials of the existing buildings
on the lot and complies with the guideline.
3. There is no alley access for this corner property. The proposed garage is confined to the
rear of the main house but is to be accessed off of Margaret Street and would be difficult
to be screened from view from the public street, thus not complying with the guideline.
4. The gazage is proposed on a corner lot at a 2' setback from the side setback of the main
house. The general principles state, "The impact of alterations or additions on individual
buildings as well as on the surrounding streetscape will be considered; major alterations
to buildings which occupy a corner lot or are otherwise prominently sited should be
avoided. " Although this not an addition or alteration to the main building, it is an
addition to the site. The construction of a garage in a prominent location, within close
proximity to the main house and neighboring house and with a shallow setback will have
a negative impact on the site and neighboring properties and doesn't comply with the
guidelines.
and further subject to the following conditions:
L The location of the garage be moved to have a 4'setback from the north and east property
lines to lessen the impact on the main house and neighboring structures.
2. The garage door on the north elevation be removed from the plan.
3. The cement-board have a smooth texture.
4. Frieze-boazd and watertable be added with final design to be reviewed and approved
by staff.
5. Window, service door, garage doar and trim materials and detail be submitted to staff for
final review and approval.
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Plans and details for the deck be submitted to staff for review and approval.
Any changes or revisions to the approved plans must be submitted to the HPC and/or staff
for review.
The HPC stamped approved construction level plans remain on site for the duration of the
project.
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WTIEREAS, On or about September 7, 2006, Rich DuPaul, pursuant to Legislative
Code § 73.06(h) duIy filed an appeal from the decision of the HPC and requested a public hearing for
the purpose of considering the action taken by the HPC; and
WHEREAS, on September 20, 2006 a public hearing was duly conducted before the City Council
where all interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard and, at the close of the public
hearing, the City Council, having heard the statements made and having considered the application,
the testimoney, the report of the staff and the record, minutes and resolution of the HPC; DOES
HEREBY
RESOLVE, that the decision of the HPC to approve the building permit subject to certain conditions
is hereby affirmed as the Council find that the appellants have not shown that there are any eirors in
the facts, findings, procedures or conditions imposed on the application by the HPC; and, BE IT
FURTHER RESOLVED, That the appeal of Rich DuPaul is hereby denied and that the Council
adopts as its own by reference, the findings and conditions of the HPC as set forth in HPC Resolution
No 06-347 and, BE IT
F'INALLY RESOLVED, That the Ciry Clerk shall mail a copy of this resolution to the permit
applicant Karin DuPaul, the appellant, Rich DuPaul, the Heritage Preservation Commission, the
Department of License, Inspections and Environmental Protection and the Zoning Administrator.
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Memorializing City Council's September 20, 2006 motion to affirm the decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission and approve
the building permit subject to certain conditions to construct a two-stall, two-story garage on properiy commonly lmown as 668
Ctteenbrier Street located witivn the Dayton's Bluff Historic District.
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7. Haz this persoNfirtn e�er wo�lced under a coMract for this department?
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2. Has this persoNfirtn e�er been a city employee?
Yes No
3. Does this peison/firtn possess a skill not nortnally possessed by any
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Initlating Problem, Issues, Opportunity (Who, What, When, Where, Why):
Advantages HApproved:
The Council is required pursuant to the City Cl�arter to have its actions reduced to wd6ng either in the forni of a resolurion or ordinance
dependent upon the nature of the matter before it The decision of Council in this matter required a written resolution in order to
comply with the CLarter. Approving the attached resoluton fiilfills the Council's duty under the Charter.
Disadvantaqes If Approved:
None.
Disadvanta5les If NotApproved:
Failure to approve the resolution violates the City's Charter requirement.
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OFFICE OF LICENSE, MSPECTIONS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
Bob Kessler, Director
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Chrisfopher B. Coleman, .14ayor
September 7, 2006
Ms. Mary Erickson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 CiTy Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear Ms. Erickson:
CO,LI.�NERCE BUILDI,�'G
8 Fourth Stree� Eas(, Sui�e 200
StPavl, Mrnxesora »101-1024
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Telephone: 651-266-9090
Facsim i1e: 651-266-912d
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I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the Ciry Council is scheduled for
Wednesday, September 20, 2006 for the following heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s):
File Number:
Rich DuPaul, owner
06-396
Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission
decision conditionally approving a building permit
application to construct a two-story garage that is
set in the rear corner of the lot with final design
details subject to staff approval.
Location:
Staff
Recommendation:
Commission:
668 Greenbrier Street (Dayton's Bluff Historic
District)
Conditional Approval
Conditional Approval
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Kathy Lantry. My
understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City
Council at your earliest convenience and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the
Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9079 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Amy Spong
Historic Preservation Specialist
CC: Council Member Kathy Lantry
Appellant/owner, Rich DuPaul
File
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HL�AR3NG
The Saint Paui City Couneil will con-
duct a public heazing on Wednesday, Sep-
tember 20, 2006 to ednsider the appeat of
Rich DuPaul to a decisioa of the Heritage
Pieservation Commisaion condiEionally ap
PTa�'�ff a buildin$ Permit aPPlitcation to
construct a two-storl'�gai'age tttat�is set ia
the rn.ar emaer ofthe lot at 668 Greenbrier
Street (DayEon's Bluff Historie District),
with Snai design detaila subject to staff
approval. (FYle No. 06-396) .
Dated: September 7, 2006
MARY=ERICI£SON, .
Assistant City Gouncil Secretary
(September 11) '
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September 6, 2006
City of Saint Paul
Regulatory Services of Saint Paul
Bob Kessler
8 East 4�' Street
Saint Paul MN 55101
Dear Mr. Kessler;
Re: Appeal the Heritage Preservation Commission (I-IPC) decision on new garage conditions at
668 Greenbrier Street.
We support the Dayton's Bluff Historic District and believe it has a very important part in the
revitalizing of Dayton's Bluff neighborhoods. Heritage Preservation Comuussion (HPC) works
hard to keep the integrity of the district intact, but at times the people wanting to improve their
property aze stopped from making positive improvement because of HPG conditions on projects.
Our wonderfiil home was built in 1892 for William and Marie Hamm — it was a wedding gift
from William to Marie. The home had a large wrap-azound front and side porch and a matching
back porch. The porches and detail made the home beautiful from both Greenbrier the front
street and Mazgazet the side and back of the home. This house was built to be st�mning on both
streets.
I am appealing the condition that the location of the gazage be moved to have a 4' setback from
the north and east property lines to lessen the impact on the main house and neighboring
structures. Our proposal location has 2' setback from south side elevation of the house and 4'
from the east properiy line.
I want my new garage to make a dramatic impact on both the Greenbrier and the Margazet Sireet
side of the house. I would like to add a few detail elements from the house to the garage to help
±ie the *.w� r�gerher.
We aze very sorry that our neighbors are opposed to our plan. Tlus is a very costly project and
we want it to add the most value possible to our beautiful home. Moving the garage as the
condirion states, to the northern end of the lot will reduce the back yazd size by almost 50% and
the drive way would be about 41' long. Thus making the property less appealing to futute
owners. The condition seems to be azbitcary and not in agreement with the guidelines or city
code. Accessory Buildings Garages and other accessory buildings should be compatible with the
overall design and materials of the existing buildings on the lot. New garages should be located
off rear alleys wherever possible. Garages should not be attached to the front of the building.
We agree but our property is not on an alley, therefore the gazage entrance is off Mazgaret Street.
We believe the over all design will make a positive statement on Mazgaret Street
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Thank you
Sincerely,
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668 Crreenbrier Street
Saint Paul MN 55106
651-176-0550
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ca City Council President Kathy Lantry
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Ch�istopher B. Coleman, Mayor
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Bob Kessler, Direcfor
COM�NERCEBUILDING Telephone:657-266-9090
8 E. Fourth Street Facsrmrle: b�l-266-912A
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City Councilmembers
Peter Warner, CAO
Bob Kessler, LIEP
Amy Spong, HPC staf 1�,
HPC appeal for 668 Greenbrier Street,
September 20, 2006
The following attachments highlight the events that have taken place and relate to the HPC review
of the permit application to construct a two-story, detached garage at 668 Greenbrier Street in the
Dayton's Bluff Historic District:
Page 1
Notice to City Council to schedule appeal.
Pages 2-4
Grounds for the appeal by appellant Richard DuPaul at 668 Greenbrier Street
Pages 5-7
The staff report recommending a conditional approval.
Pages 8-24
The application witlz perspective images, pictures and a site plan.
Pages 25-31
Aerial photo and existing conditions photos.
Pages 32-34
Summary minutes from the August 24 public hearing.
Pages 35-37
Testimonial letters presented at the public hearing from neighbors, Carol Ward at 715 Margaret
Street and Michel Taylor of 672 Greenbrier Street.
Pages 38-39
The final decision letter approving the proposal with conditions by the HPC.
OFFICE OF UCENSE, INSPECTIONS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
Bob Kessler, Directar
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Christopher B. Coleman, M¢yor
September 7, 2006
Ms. Mary Erickson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Dear Ms. Erickson:
COMMERCEBU/LDI��'G Te%phone: 651-266-9090
8 Four[h Street East, Sui(e 200 Facsinnle: 6�7-166-911d
St Paul. Minnesota 5510l-IO29 4Veb: u�mv.(iep.us
I would like to confirm that a public heazing before the City Council is scheduled for
Wednesday, September 20, 2006 for the following heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s):
File Number:
Purpose:
Location:
Staff
Recommendation:
Commission:
Rich DuPaul, owner
06-396
Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission
decision conditionally approving a building permit
application to construct a two-story gazage that is
set in the rear corner of the lot with final design
details subject to staffapproval.
668 Greenbrier Street (Dayton's Bluff Historic
District)
Conditional Approval
Conditional Approva]
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Kathy Lantry. My
understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City
Council at your eazliest convenience and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the
Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9079 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Amy Spong
Historic Preservation Specialist
CC: Council Member Kathy Lantry
Appellant/owner, Rich DuPaul
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City of Saint Paul
Regulatory Services of Saint Paul
Bob Kessler
8 East 4�' Street
Saint Paul MN 55101
Dear Mr. Kessler;
Re: Appeal the Heritage Preservation Commission (HI'C) decision on new garage conditions at
668 Crreenbrier Street.
We support the Dayton's Bluff Historic District and believe it has a very unportant part in the
revitalizing of Dayton's Bluffneighborhoods. Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) works
hard to keep the integrity of the district intact, but at times the people wanting to improve theu
property are stopped from making positive impmvement because of HPG conditions on projects.
Our wonderful home was built in 1892 for William and Marie Hamm — it was a wedding gift
from William to Marie. The home had a large wrap-around front and side porch and a matching
back porch. The porches and detail made the home beautiful from both Crreenbrier the front
• street and Mazgaret the side and back of the home. This house was built to be stunning on both
streets.
I am appealing the condition that the location of the gazage be moved to have a 4' setback from
the north and east properry lines to lessen the impact on the main house and neighboring
structures. Our proposal location has 2' setback from south side elevation of the house and 4'
from the east property line.
I want my new garage to make a dramatic impact on both the Greenbrier and the Mazgazet Street
side of the house. I would like to add a few detail elements from the house to the gatage to help
t_� the r.,,�,� toget,h°i.
We are very sorry that our neighbors are opposed to our plan. This is a very costly project and
we want it to add the most value possible to our beautiful home. Moving the garage as the
condition states, to the northem end of the lot will reduce the back yazd size by almost 50% and
the drive way would be about 41' long. Thus making the property less appealing to future
owners. The condition seems to be azbitrary and not in agreement with the guidelines or city
code. Accessory Buildings Gm�ages and other accessory buildings should be compatible with the
overall design cmd materials of the existing buitdings on fhe lot New garages should be located
off rear alleys wherever possible. Garages should not be attached to the front of the building.
We agree but our property is not on an alley, therefore the garage entrance is off Mazgaret Street.
We believe the over all design will make a positive statement on Mazgatet Street
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668 Greenbrier Street
Saint Paul MN 55106
651-776-0550
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Agenda Item III.C.
File #06-396
CITY OF SAINT PAUL •
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMNIISSION STAFF REPORT
FILE NAME: 668 Greenbrier Street
DATE OF APPLICATION: August 7, 2006
APPLICANT: Karin DuPaul, owner
OWNER: same
DATE OF HEARING: August 24, 2006
HPC SITE/DISTRICT: Dayton's Bluff Historic District
CATEGORY: Pivotal
CLASSIFICATION: Building Permit
STAFF INVBSTIGATION AND REPORT: Chrisrine Barr
DATE: August 16, 2006
A. SITE DESCRIPTION:
This two-story, neo-classical home was built in 1892 as a wedding gift for Marie Scheffer Hamm.
The azchitects for the house were Reed and Stem. According to the inventory, this is "the first full-
fledged classical revival house in the area, four-square, boldly detailed, cleazly embracing its corner
lot " There is currently not a gazage on the property.
B. PROPOSED CHANGES:
The applicant is proposing to construct a two-stall, two-story gazage with a 10/12 roof pitch and •
dormers on the east and west elevations. The footprint measures 26'x30' with a proposed
setback of 2' from the side elevation o£ the house. The proposed height is 24' at the ridge.
Materials and details listed aze:
• Two courses of rock-faced block at grade
• 6" cement-boazd siding
• 6" aluminum fascia, 18" aluminum soffit
• Sets of 2'x4' double-hung windows in the gable ends and dormers (materials and details
were not provided)
• Two 9'x8' overhead gazage doors on the south elevation and a 8'x7' garage door on the
north elevation (materials and details were not provided)
• A 36", 6-panel service door on the west elevation proposed to be accessible from the deck
(material and details were not provided)
• Asphalt shingles to match the house
The applicant is also proposing to replace the deck that is currenfly at the reaz of the house with a
new deck that will sit between the house and the garage. No plans or details were provide.
C. GUIDELINE CITATIONS:
Davton's BZuffHistoric District Guidelines
General Principles:
1. AZI work should be of a character and quaZity that maintains the distinguishing features of the building •
and the environmenz The removal or alteration ofdistinctive architectural features shouZd be avoided as
shouZd aZterations that have no historical basis and which seek to create an earZier appearance. The
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Agenda Item III.D.
HPC File #06-347
• restoration of altered original features, ifdocumentable, is encouraged.
2. Changes which may have taken place in the course of time are evidence of the history and development
ofa building, structure, or site and its environment. These changes may have acquired significance in
their own right, and this signifcance shall be recognized and respected.
3. Deteriorated architectural features shouZd be repaired rather than replaced whenever possible. In the
event ofrepZacement, new materials should match the original in composition, design (including
consideration ofproportion, texture and detail), color and overall appearance.
4. New additions or alterations to structures should be constructed in such a manner that ifsuch additions
or alterations were to be removed in the future, the form and integrity ofthe original structure would be
unimpaired.
3. The impact of alterations or additions on individual buildings as well as on the surrounding streetscape
will be considered; major alterations to buildings which occupy a corner lot or are otherrvise prominently
sited should be avoided.
6. New construction should be compatible with the historic and architectural character of the district.
ADDITIONS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION
Accessory Buildings:
Garages and other accessory buildings should be compatible with the overall design and materials ofthe
existing buildings on the lot. New garages should be located off rear alleys wherever possible. Garages
should not be attached to the front of the building and should only be attached ifnot visible from the
public way.
Site Considerations in New Construction:
� Setback and Siting. The setback of new buildings in most residential and commercial areas should be
compatible with the setback of existing adjacent areas.
Parking. Residential parking areas should be confined to the rear of existing or new buildings. Parking
spaces should be screened from view from the public street by landscaping such as hedges, grade
changes, or low fences.
D. FINDINGS:
1. The properiy is considered pivotal to the character of the Dayton's Bluff Historic District.
2. Although window and door materials and details were not provided, the overall design of
the garage is compatible with the overall design and materials of the existing buildings on
the lot and complies with the guideline.
3. There is no alley access for this corner property. The proposed garage is confzned to the
rear of the main house but is to be accessed off of Margaret Street and would be difficult
to be screened from view from the public sireet, thus not complying with the guideline.
4. The garage is proposed on a corner lot at a 2' setback from the side setback of the main
house. The general principles state, "The impact of alterations or additions on individual
buildings as well as on the surrounding streetscape wi11 be considered,• major alterations
to buildings which occupy a corner lot or are otherwise prominenrly sited should be
avoided " Although this not an addition or alteration to the main building, it is an
addition to the site. The conshuction of a garage in a prominent location, within close
• proximity to the main house and neighboring house and with a shallow setback will have
a negative impact on the site and neigl�boring properties and doesn't comply with the
guidelines.
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HPC File #06-347
E. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: •
Based on the findings above, staff recommends approval of the building permit appiication provided
the following conditions be met:
1. The gazage be setback another 10'from the street to lessen the impact on the main house and
neighboring structures.
2. The cement-board have a smooth texture.
3. Frieze-board and watertable be added with final design to be reviewed and approved by staff.
4. Window, service door, gazage door and trim materials and detail be submitted to staff for
final review and approval.
5. Plans and details for the deck be submitted to staff for review and approval.
6. Any changes or revisions to the approved pians must be submitfed to the HPC and/or staff for
review.
7. The HPC stamped approved construction level plans remain on site for the duration of the
project.
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Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission
• C/o OJj'�ce ofLicense, Inspections and Environmen[al Protection
o 8 Fourth Sdeet E., Suiie 200
SaintPaul,M1J 55101-1024
��� Phone: (65!) 266-9078
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMNIISSION
DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION
This application must be completed in addirion to the appropriate city pemut applicarion if the affected
property is an individually designated landmark or located within an historic district. For applications that
must be reviewed by the Heritage Preservation Couunission refer to the HPC Meeting schedule for meeting
dates and deadlines.
1. PERMIT CATEGORY
Please check the category that best describes the proposed work
❑ Repair/Rehabilitation ❑ Sign/Awning �'ew Construction/Addition
❑ Moving ❑ Fence/Retaining Wall ❑ Concept Review Only
❑Aemolition ❑Other
2. PROJECT ADDRESS
• Street and number: �!p O ( 5' /z2.�M '�i y_ Zip Code: $s� ��9
3. APPLICANT INFORMATION
Name of contact person: T� 0. Y' I i1 � Lt PQ l(�
Company:
Street and number: �� (�a n � ��� �JJ�-C.�7
City: J I T(� i(.t X State: ��`! Zip Code: .5 -S� � lv
Phone number: (� � 7�` S�d e-mail: l�i-/y �u� � � Q C bYVtlL� S�• �'1 e- �
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4. PROPERTY O�VNER(S) INFORMATION (If different from applicant)
Name:
Street and number:
• City: State: Zip Code:
, Phone number: (_) e-mail:
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5. PROJECT ARCHITECT (If applicable)
Contact person:
Company:
Street and number:
City: State:
Phone number: (_) e-mail;
6. PROJECT DESCRTPTION
Zip Code:
Completely describe ALL eaterior changes being proposed for the property. Include
changes to architectural details such as windows, doors, siding, railings, steps, trim, roof,
foundation or porches. Attach specifications for doors, windows, lighting and other
features, if applicable, including color and material samples.
are having a new one-story garage, with a bonus room up, built by Willow River Construction:
� It will have two dormers with iwo windows in each of them.
� There will be two windows in the front and back gab�es.
� The color wili be the same as the house cream and white with the red-ish accent.
� It will have a hardy board type siding.
� The garage will be set back 2' from the edge of the house.
� Rock faced block on the 2' above ground.
� Timberline shingles to match the house.
� Elecfrical will be 100 Amp service trenched from the house.
� The current deck will be replaced with a similar deck (without the bench) between the
house and the garage.
� The reason for the height of the garage is the height of our recreational vehicle.
Attac{� additiaial skeets ij necessary
7. ATTACHMENTS
Refer to the Design Review Process & Checklist for required information or attachments.
'*InCOVIPLET� APPLICATIOYS WILL BE RETURNED**
ARE TFiE NECESSARY ATTACFI4IENTS AND INFORIIIATION INCLUDED?
a YES
Will any federal money be used in this project? YES NO ��
Are you applying for the Investment Tax Credits? YES NO
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I, the undersigned, understand that the Design Review Application is lunited to the aforementioned work to
• the affected properry. I further understand that any additional exterior work to be done under my
ownership must be submitted by applicarion to the St. Paul Heritage Preservation Commission. Any
unauthorized work will be required to be removed.
Signature of applicant:�7Y_� n ��'L// � _ Date: C
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Signature of owner:
Date:
Date received: 8 • 9• d�
District: D.� ll ndividual Site:
Contributing/Non-contributin ivotaU pportive/:
Type of work: Minor/Moderate/Major
FILE NO. �� ' 3 �'1 �0
Requires staft'review
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Supporting data: YES NO
Complete application: YES NO
The following condition(s) must be
met in order for application to confomi
to preservation program:
� Requires Commission review
Submittyd:
� ets of Plans
1 Set of Plans reduced to 11"
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�f"iotographs
�/�ry Pemut Application
p� Complete HPC Design Review
application
Hearing Date set for: 8• z'�}. ��o
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It has been determined that the
work to be performed pursuant to
the application does not adversely
affect the program for preservation
and architectural control ofthe
heritage preservation district or site
(Ch.73.0�.
HPC staff approval
Date
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MINUTES OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
CITY OF SA1NT PAUL, MINNESOTA
• August 24, 2006
Present: Carol Carey, Richard Faricy, April Haas, Pat Igo, Paul Larson, Lee
Meyer, Dick Nicholson, Shari Taylor-Wilsey, Diane Trout-Oertei
Absent: Susan Bartlett Foote (excused), John Manning (excused), Daniel Scott
(unexcused)
Staff Present: Amy Spong, Christine Barr, Michael Douglas
1. CALL TO ORDER: 5:05 PM by Paul Larson (acting Chair)
2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. Agenda was approved as presented.
3. CONFLICT OF INTEREST. No conflicts of interest were stated.
4. PERMIT REVIEW/PUBLIC HEARING
A. 20-22 North Kent Street, Hill Historic District, by Ellie Bisanz, owner,
. for a building permit to restore/rebuild the front porch and window bays.
File #06-394.
Staff presented the report recommending conditional approval. Taylor-Wilsey
noted that'staff stated a different measurement than what was written in the staff
report and staff verified the staff report was correct. Larson asked for clarification
as to whether staff recommends approval of item 1. Staff replied that the design
solution is left somewhat open. The applicant, Tom Blanck, representing the
owners, was present to speak on the matter. Mr. Blanck stated that many of
Cass Gilbert's buildings have planters similar to the proposed planters, despite
staff's objection to his proposal. Mr. Blanck provided photos to the
Commissioners to support his claim. Trout-Oertel asked if the drawings were
temporarily unavailable and for how long. The applicant stated that he is unsure
if/when the drawings will be available. Larson asked whether the applicant was
familiar with different types of railings like a solid wall that the original architect
did and why the brick on the facade seemed to show shadow lines. The
applicant stated that an unknown party painted them different colors at some
point. Larson asked why the cornice is handled differently on the porch as
opposed to the bay. The applicant stated that Gilbert did things this way. Larson
asked whether the porch will be restored. The applicant stated that, to the best
of his knowledge, the porch will be restored. Both owners, Eliie Bisanz and Eva
Cross, expressed support for the project and want to have the flower boxes as
part of the railing. Staff read a letter from neighbor, Donaid Woods, expressing
. support for the project. The public hearing was closed. Igo requested an
opportunity to discuss the flowerboxes before anyone made a motion. Larson
stated that a motion should be made before the discussion starts. Meyer moved
3"�.
MINUTES OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION I
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
August 24, 2006
to accept staff recommendation deleting the first sentence of condition number
one. Haas seconded the motion. Taylor Wilsey and Larson expressed support
for the motion. Larson expressed concern about the appearance of elevation
and recommended that the Commission require the entire main railing be in solid
like the boxes. Haas asked for ciarification as to whether the Commissioners
were concerned how the railing met the column. Faricy expressed support for
the proposal and not staff recommendation. Larson stated that the motion is to
approve the staff recommendation, minus the first condition in the staff report.
The motion passed 9-0.
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B. 250 East Seventh Street, Lowertown Historic District, by Pyramid
Sign LTD., for a sign permit to install a new storefront sign. File #06-395.
Staff presented the report recommending conditional approval. Faricy expressed
concern as to whether the applicant would request additional signage or if the
proposal included all desired signs. Staff showed plans for two other projecting
signs and stated they are small enough for staff to approve administratively.
Faricy expressed concern about the conflicting nature of the signs. The
applicant, Kirk Van Blaircom, was present to speak on the matter. Faricy stated
that, after examining photographs of the proposal, he withdraws his previous
concerns and objections. The public hearing was closed as no one else was •
present to speak. Taylor Wilsey moved to approve the proposal, subject to staff
recommendations. Igo seconded. The motion passed 9-0.
C. 668 Greenbrier Street, Dayton's Bluff Historic District, by Karin
DuPaul, owner, for a building permit to construct a two-stall, two-story
garage. File #06-396.
Staff presented the report recommending conditional approval. Carey asked
how far from the street the proposed garage would appear to be. Staff showed
the approximate placement of the garage, however, this was difficult given the
two-dimensional nature of the photos supplied. Commissioners asked how tall
fhe proposed garage would be, relative to the eves of surrounding houses. Staff
could only estimate. The applicant, Karin DuPaul, appeared to speak on the
matter, explaining the historical roles that garages have played in the Hamm
neighborhood. The applicant expressed her belief that a two-foot setback would
be sufficient, but would accept a 10-foot setback if approval of her proposal was
conditioned on a 10-foot setback. The applicant expressed support for the staff
recommendation. The contractor was present to answer questions. Taylor
Wilsey asked if the conteactor approved of the staff recommendation. The
contractor expressed support for the staff recommendation. A neighbor, Carol
Ward, was present to speak on the matter, stating that any garage with any
setback would interfere with a scenic view from her windows and patio. In
addition, the Ms. Ward noted that the proposed garage would be plainly visible .
from nearby streefs and reduce the amount of light into her property. Ms. Ward
recommended the garage be placed where an existing storage shed is located.
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Another neighbor, Ed Szalapski, appeared to speak on the matter. He
expressed support for the recommendation of the neighbor that proposed that
the garage should be piaced where the shed is currently located in the back
corner. Staff presented a letter from Michel Taylor to the Commission, which
expressed objections to the proposed garage and its siting. The public hearing
was closed. Meyer moved to accept the staff recommendations, but changing
the setback of the garage to four feet from both property lines, removing the
overhead door on the rear elevation, and limiting the size of the garage to 26x26.
Larson objected, recommending that the proposal of 26x30 stand. Igo offered a
friendiy amendment to permit the garage to be 26x30 with the four-foot setback.
Meyer did not accept the friendly amendment. The motion failed (4-5). Taylor
Wilsey moved to permit a 26x30 garage in place of the storage shed, without the
garage door at the rear elevation, and with a 4-foot setback. Meyer seconded
the motion. The motion passed 8-1.
D. 154 Nina Street, Hill Historic District, by Christo Renovation, for a
building permit to remove existing two-stall garage and construct a two-
stall, two-story garage with attached car-port. File #06-397.
Staff presented the report recommending conditional approval. The applicant
. appeared to speak on the matter. He stated he wanted to store three vehicles, a
canoe, and a sewing shop inside the garage. The applican? stated that the staff
recommendations were acceptable to him. Jack Buxell, neighbor, stated that the
neighborhood board supports the proposal. The public hearing was closed.
Taylor Wilsey, moved for approval of the praposal with staff recommendations.
Trout-Oertel seconded the motion. The motion passed 8-0.
5. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Staff urged the Commission members attending the state conference to make
their reservations.
6. ADJOURN at 6:35pm.
Submitted by: Michael Douglas
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SC Peel. MMA..55106
651-2246666
Dear Sirs,
I send my regrets for not being abie to attend this meeting in regard to the proposed
buiiding of a garage by Karin DuPaul at 668 6reenbrier. I live at 672 Greenbrier
and am directly next door to Karin. My home is also a historic residence, which was
previously owned by members of the Hamm's family. I have some concerns about
the negative impact it will have on the surrounding properties and the visual effect it
will have on the neighborhood in general.
If the garage is set back another 10 feet than originally proposed, a 26' wide garege
would directly abut on my 35' foot yard. The back of the garage would face directly
into my yard. It would loom 24' higfi, obliterating any view to the south from the
backyard except for a 2' span between their house and the garage where they
propose to buitd a deck. It would rob me of sunlight and block air flow from
reaching my property.
If the garage is built as originalfy presented with an 8'x7' back door, the garage
would be more aesthetically appealing for me to view but I am concerned they would
use this access to store large equipment etc. that would oniy be visible to me. This •
door would be necessary for them to reach the remainder of their yard though
because the size of the garage doesn't allow them to easi�y get around it.
These large homes dwarf the lots they sit on and outbuildings often make the
property appear crowded. Garages are nice to have but sometimes we can't have it
alt. The DuPaul house is one of the most significantly historic homes in this area and
iYs in a very prominent location. For this reason and others listed above I ask that
you give this great consideration.
Yours truly,
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OFFICE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIONS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECT[ON
Bob Kessleq Direcmr
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Christopher B. Coleman, .1layor
August 25, 2006
Karin DuPaul
668 Greenbrier Street
Saint Paul, MN 55106
CO3f.NERCEBUlG"DL\'G Telephone:
8 Fovrth Stree1 Ea.r1, Suite 200 Facsimde:
StPa:d, Minnesota 5510J-l02J Web:
Re: 668 Greenbrier Street, Dayton's Bluff Historic District
August 24, 2006 - HPC Permit Review, HPC File #06-396
Dear Ms. DuPaul:
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6�1-266-9090
6il-266-912�1
innv.liep.us
As you know, the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) considered at its August 24, 2006
meeting your application to construct a two-stall, two-story garage at the property listed above,
The HPC voted 8 to 1 to conditionally approve your application. This decision was based on the
discussion at the public heazing, public testimony and findings by the HPC staff.
The application will be approved provided the foliowing condition(s) be met:
1. The location of the gazage be moved to have a 4'setback from the north and east property
lines to lessen the impact on the main house and neighboring structures.
2. The garage door on the north elevation be removed from the plan.
3. The cement-boazd have a smooth texture.
4. Frieze-boazd and watertable be added with final design to be reviewed and approved by staff:
5. Window, service door, garage door and trim materials and detail be submitted to staff for
final review and approval.
6. Plans and details for the deck be submitted to staff for review and approval.
7. Any changes or revisions to the approved plans must be submitted to the HPC and/or staff for
review.
8. The HPC stamped approved construction level plans remain on site for the duration of the
project.
You or any aggrieved party has the right to appeai the Heritage Preservation Commission's
decision to the Saint Paul City Council under Chapter 73 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code. Such
an appeal must be filed within 14 days of date of the HPC's order and decision. Chapter 73
staYes:
(h) Appeal to city council. The permit applicant or any parry aggrieved 6y the decision of the heritage
preservation commission shall, wirhin fourteen (14) days of the date of the heritage preservation commission's
order and decision, have a right to appeal such order and decision to the city counci[. The appea! shall be
deemed perfected upon receipt by the division of planning [LIEP� of two (2) copres of a notice of appeal and
statement setting forth the grounds for the appeal. The division of planning [LIEP] shall transmit one copy of
the notice of appeal and statement to the ciry council and one copy to the heritage preservation commission.
The commission, in arry written order denying a permit application, shall advise the applicant of [he right to
appeal to the city coxncil and include this paragraph in all such orders.
AA-ADA-EEO Employer
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Please note, an HPC approval or conditionally approval does not obviate the need for meeting •
applicable building and zoning code requirements, no is it a permit to allo�v for work to
commence. If revisions to the approved plans are made, be aware that additional HPC and/or staff
review will be required.
Please feel free to call me at 651-266-9067 if you have any questions. The building permit
application will be on hold until the above conditions have been met.
Sincerely,
�M&�`u,c (�
Christine Barr
Planner, Historic Preservation
Cc: Steve Ubl, building inspector
Eaul, �Ilow River Construcfion
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