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OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK FILE NO
COUNCIL RESOLUTION — GENERAL FORM
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RESOLVED, That F & W Construction Company be permitted
to install and operate a 27 -car off - street parking lot accessory
to a proposed 27 -unit apartment building on property located on
the west side of English Street between Hoyt and Idaho Avenues,
more particularly 4escribed as the south_30 feet of Lot 2 and
all of Lots 3 thru 7 inclusive, Block 2, Overbrook Addition,
in accordance with plans therefor meeting all of the standards
of Section 60.23, section 4, paragraph 2, of the Zoning Code,
a copy of which are on file in the office of the City Planning
Board, subject to compliance with all applicable City ordinances,
State statutes, and rules and regulations of public authoritiies
having cognizance.
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Mr. Robert B. Gerber Jr.
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Dear Sir: t
This is in the matter of the application of the F & W Construction
Company for a permit to install and operate a 27 car off - street
parking lot accessory to a proposed 27 unit apartment building to
be constructed on property located on the west side of English Street
between Hoyt and Idaho Avenues,which is described as the south 30
feet of Lot °2 and all of Lots'3 tbru 7'inclusive,,Block 2, Overbrook
Addition. The property is zoned commercial and has been since the
enactment of the Zoning Code,in,1922.
part of the subject property is developed with a residence and the
balance is vacant. The oxisting residence will be removed for the
proposed development. TTbe:site has,a frontage of 230 feet on English
Street and extends to a depth of 120'feet, resultin in an area of
27,600 square feet.
The ular meeting on
Augu met the standards
for a Traffic Engineer
has 196_ is type of facil-
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plans pl `HOLLAND be 15 parking
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MINNESOTA
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
113 Court House 55102
224 -4612
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August 7, 1964
File 16485 Page
You are hereby notified that the public hearing originally scheduled
for August 6, 1964, has been postponed until August 18,_1964, on the
application of F. and W. Construction Company for permit to install
and operate a 27 -car off - street parking lot in conjunction with a
proposed 27 -unit apartment building on the following described pro-
perty; South 30 feet of Lot 2 and all of Lots 3 through 7 inclusive,
Block 2, Overbrook Addition. The property is located on the west
side of English Street between Hoyt and Idaho Avenues.
For further information call at Room 1315, Court House or phone
224- 4612,iExtension 251.
JAMES J. DALGLISH
Commissioner of Finance
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August` 16, 1964
Mr. G. J. Vavoulis
Mayor of St.Paul
Court House
St. Paul, Minnesota
Dear Mr. Vavoulis,
On Tuesday, August 18, the City Council is taking up a
matter of a large apartment building scheduled to be
constructed on English Street, near our home. We are
unable to attend this particular council meeting, but
we do wish to express our disapproval. We feel we
have very valid reasons for our ob je:ot ions:
The majority of construction in this area ins single-
fslmily dwelling. An old lmv states: that English Street
Was zoned commercial many years ago* However, most of
the ba ildings built on English, even years ago; were
single - family houses: In the last few yearn, since
the lot si tuation is tight in the city, aafew mgnstro ities
of buildings hav a been -moved on new basements ad jacen -
t.o the tracks on English Street. Also, a couple of new
small apartments have been errected. with the influx of
renters, livirg has been kind of high on English Street
of ]a. te: We Peel it a great nuts euce as is, without a
Larger building, and a greater number of renters in our
midst. We feel English Street would benefit itself, by
concurring with the existing p- mperties in nearby blocks.
The commercial lww was passedfirst, but we property oviners
set the neighborhood trend when we built first:
The prope :sty in th i,s ne igh bo rho od is well kiept. The.
people aze a credit to St. Paul: There are hundreds of
youngsters livirag� here, before whom it is our duty to
set good example. We invite you to tour Idaho Avenue*
(thisis the closest cross street to the proposed construction:)
We believe you will find ours a bright and cheerful family
neighborhood. We ajeL proud of i -t, and we work hard for it.
Sincerely,
Mrs. John G. Kight
1581 Chamber Street
St. Paul, Minn. 56106
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St. Paul Courthouse
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Dear Mr, Vavoulis;
1581 Chamber Street
St, Paul 6; Minnesota
August 16, 1964
I am unable to attend the hearing on August 18th regarding the
erection of a 27 unit apartment on English Street between Idaho
and Hoyt by the F and W Construction Company, but I wish to
express my views as a home owner one block away from the area.
In the past ten years this area has been developed as almost an
exclusively residential area, now because of an antique(1922)
zoning law one small piece of English Street is found to be
available for commercial construction in an area that has de-
veloped as residential. The letter of the law is plain but is
justice rendered by the letter or the spirit of the law? I believe
that in view of the way the neighborhood has developed it would
beem to rule out the construction of such a large building in the
close proximity to single residential homes.
Another serious objeotion, one which I am sure you and the Council
members are unaware of, is the tact that this area is unprovided
with adequate sidewalks for pedestrian use+ In the area bounded
by Arlington, East Shore Drive, Larpenteur, and English Streets
there is no possibility of walking to the nearby schools(Frost
Lake Elementary, Presentation, Hill High School; Archbishop Murray,
and Hazel Park Junior High) with the exception of a single walk
on Idaho -now under construction. That one walk will funnel all
pedestrian traffic to the corner of the proposed apartment site.
For over five years we have-petitioned you and the Council fdr
adequate sidewalks without noticeable success, and it does not
seem logical to further complicate the pedestrian problem by putting
27 more oars in a single residential block. Additionally, it
makes a mockery of the recently Ann6uneed drive for pedestrian
safety by the city of St. Paul.
Sincerely yours,
ohn G. Kight
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-�—�` JAMES J. DALGLISH
COMMISSIONER OF FINANCE
CITY OF ST. PAUL
113 CITY HALL
August 17, 1964
Mr. Robert Gerber
City Clerk
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Dear Sir:
Will you please have the attached letter read
/ at the council hearing on this matter on Tuesday,
August 18.
Thanllk you.
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Court House
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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The undersigned, being residents within the vicinity of English Street
between Hoyt and Idaho Streets, hereby express their objections to the construc-
tion upon a portion of said block of the 27 -unit apartment building proposed to
be constructed Py F & 17 Construction Company. That these objections include the
location of a large apartment building in the midst of the single family dwellings
in this block fronting both on English Street and on Chamber Street, the over-
crowding of the;land with a structure much higher than any other dwellings in the
block, the congestion, over - crowding and unsafe conditions which will result from
the proposed development including the effect that the same will have upon the
traffic conditions in the area.
That your Honorable Body is requested to impose such conditions upon any
permit granted allowing an apartment development in said block as will properly
screen the parking area, protect against automobiles backing from the parking area
into the alley and such other conditions as may minimize the adverse effect of such
proposed development upon the homes in the area.
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City of Saint Paul
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Saint Paul, Minnesota
The undersigned, being residents within the vicinity of English Street
between Hoy tland Idaho Streets, hereby express their objections to the construc-
tion upon a portion of said block of the 27 -unit apartment building proposed to
be constructed by F &W Construction Company. That these objections include the
location of a large apartment building in the midst of the single family dwellings
in this block fronting both on English Street and on Chamber Street, the over-
crowding of the land with a structure much higher than any other dwellings in the
block, the congestion, over- crowding and unsafe conditions which will result from
the proposed development including the effect that the same will have upon the-
traffic conditions in the area.
Tha,t,;your Honorable Body is requested to impose such conditions upon any
permit granted allowing an apartment development in said block as will properly"
screen the parking"area, protect against automobiles backing from the parking area
into the alley and such other conditions:as may minimize the adverse effect of such
proposed development.upo6'the homes in the area.
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The ridersignq¢," bgirig 'resid�ans within the vicinity of English
• Hoyt and Idaho kre :tm r: hereby e, 7 ress their o eet_ ens toy 'thee construe -` - -
tign upon ar'portion, of, said block of the '27 -unit apartment:•bu lding propos�eal';, o ,.
°'be constructed by , 8, V Construction Co�op.any..,.,That thees'obj #ctiona Mcluds ,the-
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location` bf, a large apartrserii 'building .in the aridst of the single famlly:'dwellings -,y,•
in this block- fronting both on _Erigli'sh` Street and on Chamber -Street, the' oVer-
crowiding of 60 land' with a - structure much higher.,thao .any othi r the
block# the congestion# over- crowding and uniaf.e conditions which i i1'1`' result. ' Y
the propos`eW veTqpeA - nc u N . e ft.ect thaV, e s will have- upon =,t e!
Waffie conditions in the area._
• ?hat -your Honorable`�y..is requested to .impose such °coriditione•upon :any.%
perwit granted allowing ari,ipa- tm6at dove op in said -block as -- _gill pXop�arlyi`y
screen the parking area, ,protect against .atutomobiles- backing from the• parking area-
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1590 Chamber Street
St. Paul, Minn.
Sept. 5, 196+ RECEIVED
SAINT PAUL. MINN.
Dear Mayor Vavoulis, In MAYOR'S OFFICE
1964
In regards to the Council Hearing coming up on Sept. 10, y16�+ or re-
Ix ���¢
consideration of the unanimous vote of the council Aug. 1,1�► x
al off street parking permit F. &W. Const. issued, I woulck
voice my opinion. Iwconsider myself one the "small people" if St.
Paul, a tax payer, a mother and housewife and a poor typist as you
will see if you read this letter through.
I definitely feel that this one half block on English Street between
Idaho and Hoyt was zoned wrong back in 1922. If you have a spare min-
ute, please look at the zoning map for the City of St. Paul. You will
notice that no other spot on the map looks like our area -the OverbrVok
Addition by Lake Phalen. It's all A reseidential except for this one
half block on English. We ask Why What Happened Who goofed etc. One
of our neighbors came up with this expanation . He said he bought his
present home back in 1935 and there was nothing but wooded area around
him which are now our homes on Chamber, Atlantic and other streets. As
you perhaps know there is a Railroad Line on English. He thinks, per-
haps the Railroad had ideas of building a round house or some other
structure at one time or other. This makes sense. Perhaps this could
be looked into.
Another good point I'd like to bring up is the traffic hazard which will
be if this 27 unit building is built. On the East side of English there
are "NO PARKING ON THIS SEDE OF STREET" signs. The new building would be
on the East side on English. Directly across from this new building is
a six -plex which has it's own off street parking area. When the tenants
of this six -plex have visitors, especially on week -ends, these cars are
naturally perked all along the West side of English. Now comes this 27
unit building which will have it's off street parking area to accomodate
27 cars. We believe its going to be a crowded parking area because F. &W.
has to build 24 feet back, which they hadn't planned on doing originally.
We also feel some of the tenants will have more than one car. So, prey
tell, where will the people visiting the tenants of the 27 unit apartment
building park? They can't in front of the building because that faces
East and parking is prohibited on that side. There isn't room on the West
Bide in front of the six -plex, so they'll have to park on side streets and
all along English down to Larpentuer. To me this is a "substantial pub-
lic nuisance" asMr. Sheahan quoted. I feel this is definitely a traffic
hazard and that this matter should be turned over to the traffic depart-
ment or whoever is in charge.
Another point I'd like to mention and one I would call a "substantial pub-
lic nuisance" is invasion of our privacy . Putting this 27 unit, 2j story
apartment between and around all the single dwelling houses on Chamber
and English, would not only look rediculous but also do away with our
privacy. Anyone on the 2nd floor could look down or in our homes.
Then there's the problem of our children - -the future law- makers, voters
and taxpayers of our Great City. There are three schools in our area,
Frost Lake, Prosperity Heights and Presentation. -We guessed that about
500 children will be using English, Chamber and Idaho to get to their
school patrol. On the corner of Idaho and English is where the school
patrol meet, the City Bus waits and this is also the exit of the alley
Which will be used with this new building. What chance do our kids have
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Mayor George C. Vavoulis
City Hall and Court House
St. Paul, Minnesota
Dear Mr. Mayor;
As you are aware, the application for off - the - street parking per-
mit by F & W Construction Company on English Street between Idaho
and Hoyt Avenue, which was denied by a unanimous vote of the City
Council on August 18, 1964, is scheduled for a reconsideration in
another Council Hearing September 10, 1964. Needless to say, we
were overjoyed to hear the Council's decision against it on
August 18, 1964, fully realizing that if this weren't a unique
situation,jF & W had every legal right to this permit. We believe
the Council, after taking all things into consideration, acted
prudently and in the best interests of the entire area.
It is inconceivable that an antiquated zoning law dating back to
1922 is allowed to the tranquillity of a residential area that
has developed only in the last five to ten years. Why one -half
block was +so set aside as commercial property in 1922 is hard to
ascertain. It was developed nevertheless, with Single Family
Dwellings leaving two unimproved lots and purchased at different
times by F & W Construction Co.. These lots, one 60 feet, and
another 50 feet were not adjoining. The nearby residents anti-
cipated private homes such as their own, but this past Spring,
F & W purchased a house on a 120 foot lot situated between their
previously mentioned properties. By moving the house to another
location, F & W would be able to construct their proposed 27 -unit
apartment building allowing off street parking for 27 automobiles.
A structure of this size in a block of single family dwellings
would be as Commissioners Peterson and Holland suggested, com-
pounding an error that took place in 1922. F
We therefore, strongly urge you, your honor, and the City Council
to visit this area and see for yourselves that you should stand
by your original decision to not grant the off - street parking
permit to F & W.
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Commissioner Rosen has urged us by letter to immediately take
steps to rezone the balance of the block so that it conforms with
the existing-properties zoned A Residential. A petition has
been submitted for the Councils approval. We sincerely hope you
see fit to do this. Thank you for your diligent consideration in
this matter.
Yours very truly,
Frank J. ang
1610 Chamber t .
St. Paul, Minn.
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* --M- this congested area and all these cars coming and going ? I was told
a traffic hazard is not considered a hazard until it has been proven to
be a hazard: What do we do, Your Honor, wait until one of these kids get
killed ?
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Please:, Mr. Mayor, put yourself in our shoes. Only then can you perhaps
convince Mr. ShehanIthat this is a great moral injustice and that this
one half block on English can and must be rezoned to "A ". We all realize
that according to Law, the F.& W. Constructure Coo has the right to build
but we all feel there was an error made in 1922 in zoning this small area.
Exceptions have been made - -for instance on Payne Ave. not too long ago,
they rezoned andarea against the owners wishes.We feel this exception
should be made again.
I realize how busy you and the Council Members are, but please, Your Honor,
I beg of you all to,come out and view this matter and area with your own
eyes. You will then see and realize what a tragic development this can
be if this 27 unit apartment building is built. (I'll even put the coffee
pot on for all of you- -bring Mr. Shehan too'j
Thank you for taking time to read this. I hope and pray you and the coun-
cil members will accept and vote in our behalf on our new petition for
rezoning F &31 -W 'a lots from Commercial to A Residential.
s.
Yours truly,
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Honorable Mayor Vavolis:
1584 Chamber Street
St. Paul 55106, Minnesota
September 5, 1964
RECEIVED
L^ • SAINT PAUL, hdNN.
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On August 18, 1964, we met in the Council Chambers f
concerning the building of a 27 unit apartment building
parking, lot between Idaho and Hoyt Sts., South 30 Ft. o
inclusive, Block 2, Overbrook Addition, property locate,
of English St . , by the F & 9 Construction Co.
this action and the City Council, after hearing
decided in our favor and a permit ,,.as denied to
V,e neighbors prottested
both sides of this matter,
F & 77 Construction Co.
Since this hearing however; we have been notified of a new hearing on
September 10th, pertaining to a reconsiderment on this matter.
Laws are made and must be enforced, this we understand, but what we can -
notunderstand is:why majority doesn't rule in actions such as this. Majority
always does when our laws are made, or when our lawmakers and politicans are
put into office.;
In 1922 when the Commercial Zoning Law was made on English St., this land
;crest of English St. was nothing more than woods. Now 40 years later this
area is completely built up as single family dwellings, and a 27 unit apart-
ment structure is requested. This is a hard thing for us to accept as we all
have knowledge and experience as to the noise and traffic congestion caused
by apartments, due to the two 7 unit apartmen t dwellings on the East side of
English St. on this same block. There is no parking allowed at any time on
the ;est side of English and even though the apartment buildings on 'he East
side of the street have off street parking, this street is always congested
with additional cars, due to visitors or the fact that some families have
two vehicles. These apartments are occupied mainly by younger people who
don't seem to have any consideration of the noise they create or the hour in
which they create it in. These are 7 unit apartments in comparison with the
27 unit F & ;? Construction Co. requests.
In 1961 -62 we appeared in front of the City Council several times pro-
testing an alley through this area, with a majority of 5 -1 we finally lost
out and an alley was put through, while vie all had established front driveways
and beautifully landscaped back yards.' Now a 27 unit building is being forced
upon us - what next? ';here are our rights as landowners, taxpayers, and voters?
i
We have about,55 small children from toddlers thru grade school ages to be
effected in this block area alone with excessive traffic conditions that will
arise; plus about 500 children who form a convoy to and from Frost Lake
Elementary School and at least an additional 250 who follow the same route to
and from Present tion Catholic School.
We urge you to drive out and see this area for yourself, we begged Council
members to try and do so when we protested the alley, and although we under-
stand fully your rigid schedules, we feel if this would have been accomplish —od
maybe the alley pouldn't be here and this apartment and zoning situation
wouldn't be troubling both the City Fathers and we landowners at this time.
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+ Sincerely,
yc e Stanley
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DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
MINNESOTA
113 Court House, 55102
JAMES J. DALGLISH, Commissioner
THOMAS J. KELLEY, Deputy Commissioner
September 8, 1964
Mro!Robert Gerber
City Clerk
BUILDING
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Please include the attached correspondence with the
Council proceedings for Sept. 10, 1964.
Yours y,
1
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Chief Clerk
Finance Dept.
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Phone: 224-4612
Ext. 343 -344
Mr�1:Rn aP'i/i _•_ - -_ ` . - '^ 184 Chamber street -- -- --
gt. Paul 55106, Minnesota
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, 1964,, we met in the Council Chambers for a Public Hearing
building cif a 27 unit apartment building and off street parking
1Q and Hoyt Sts. , South 30 Ft . of Lot 3 through 7 inclusive,
wok Addition, property located on the inset Side of English 9t.,
h tai :.3o etruoti on Co.
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we`fietghbore protested this action and the City Council, after hearing
'bo h 61400 of this matter, decided in our favor and a permit was denied to
IF A X Construction Co.
31noe, t #i`s hearing however; we have been notified of a new hearing on
J September 10t pertaining to a reconsiderment on this matter.
=Lame acre ,We and must be enforoed, 'this we understand, but what we cannot
g'tatd l.0 why majority doesn't rule in actions suoh as this. Majority
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a doom whft our laws are made, or when our lawmakers and politicans are
n� "v�iq�r�nt.o .•dtfias.
1922 when the Commerolol Zoning Law was m ade on English St., this land
' V '� Vnglish St. was nothing more than woods. Now �0 years later this area
'
etely built. up as single family dwellings, and a 27 unit.apartment
e�0is requested. This is a hard thing for us to accept as we all have
and "perionoe &s to the noise and traffic congestion caused by
spi�ento, due to the tw;O 7 unit apartment dwellings on the East side of
MIS11sh- St. on this .same block. There is no parking at any time allowed on
the best side of lingli-s'h and even though the apartment buildings on the East
side of the, street have off street parking, this street is always congested
with additional oars, due to visitors or the fact that some families have two
vehicles. These apartments are occupied mainlyrby younger people who don't
seem to have any consideration of the noise they create or the hour in which
they create it in. These are 7 unit apartments in comparison with the 27
unit F & W Construction Co. requests.
In 1961 -62 we appeared in front
an alley through this area, with a
alley was put through, while we al'
beautifully landscaped back yards*
forced upon us - what next? Where
and voters?
of the City Council several times protesting
majority of 5 -1 we finally lost out and an
1 had established front driveways and
Now a 27 unit apartm en t building is being
are our rights as landowners, taxpayers,
We have about 55 small children from toddlers thru grade school ages to be
effected in this block alone with excessive traffic conditions that will arise;
plus about 500 children who form a convoy to and from Frost Lake Menentary
School and at least an additional 250 who follow the same route to and from
Presentation Catholic School*
ffe urge you Ito drive out and see this area for yourself, We begged Council
members to try ;and do so when we protested the alley, and although we understand
fully your rigid schedules, we feel if this would have been accomplished, maybe
the alley wouldn't be here and this apartmen t and zoning situation wouldn't
be troubling both the City Fathers and we landowners at this time.
Sincerely,
( i>1 oyc a Stanley
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
MINNESOTA
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
113 Court House 55102
` 224 -4612
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August 28,, 1964
City Clerk!
File 16485 Page
You are hereby notified that the City Council will reconsider the
application of F. and W. Construction Company for permit to install
and operate a 27 -car off - street parking lot in conjunction with a
proposed, 27 -unit apartment building on the following described
property: South 30 feet of Lot 2 and all of Lots 3 through 7
inclusive, Block 2, Overbrook Addition. The property is located
on the west side of English Street between.Hoyt and Idaho Avenues.
A public hearing will be held in the Council Chambers of the City
Sall and Court House at 10 :00 a.m. on September 10, 1964.
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For further information call at Room 1315 Court House-or phone
224 -4612, Extension 251.
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JAMES J. DALGLISH
Commissioner of Finance
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COMMISSIONER OF FINANCE
1" CITY OF ST. PAUL
1 118 CITY HALL
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September 9, 1964
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Mr. Robert Gerber
City Clerk
rDear Mr. Gerber:
;Will you please have the attached letter read
tat the City Council hearing on September 10.
i It is very important that these letters be
read.
Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
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ommissi er of Finance
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September 7, 1964
Commissioner James J. Dalglish
Dept. of Finance,
City of St" Paul
113 Court House
St. Paul, Minnesota 55102
Dear Commissioner Dalglish;
Since you were absent from the city council hearing on
August 18, 1964 when an application for an off - street park-
ing permit by the F. and W. Construction Company was denied,
I would like to take this opportunity to bring to your atten-
tion some facts in the matter that we feel are very pertinent.
First of all, the issue is up for reconsideration by the Counicl
on September 10, 1964 at the suggestion of Mr. Louis Sheahan,
city director of laws, who feels there was no justifaction for
the denial to F. & W. There have been Supreme Court rulings
in favor of such permits provided no substantial public nui-
sance would result. We contend that such a nuisance would exist.
English Street is at present only 30 ft. wide with provision
for an 80 ft. right -of -way at some future time. There is no
parking allowed on the west side of the street which is the
side where the proposed 27 -unit apartment building would be
erected.,' We believe that a 27 -stall off - street parking area
is not ample for a building of this size. This is well proved
by the two 7 -unit apartments on the east side of English which
already!present a parking problem. These apartments have off -
street parking facilities for more than seven cars, but there
are times when the street is congested with extra cars. This
is especially true on weekends. If any of the occupants of
the proposed 27 -unit apartment building have more than one car,
where will they park? Also provision should be made for visitors.
Where will they park? Surely not across the street where the
two 7 -unit apartment buildings are located - - -not in the 15 ft.
wide alley where there is hardly room for two cars to meet-- -
not around the corner on Idaho where residents park and the city
bus operates. We sincerely believe the parking probIbm that
this building would create for this residential area would con-
stitute a substantial public nuisance.
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With these facts in mind and other considerations that have
been brought to your attention, we believe that the City Council's
original decision was a sound one and that mo; further discussion
or argument would be cause to change it. We thank you for your
continued'consideration in this crusial matter which is of such
great concern to the entire area.
I am enclosing a copy of a letter that Mr. Lange sent to Mayor
Vavoulis relative to this issue.
Yours very truly,
Mrs. F. J". Lange
1610 Chamber Street
St. Paul,JMinnesota 55106
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September 4, 1964
Mayor George C. Vavoulis
City Hall and Court House
St. Paul, Minnesota
Dear Mr. Mayor=
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As you are aware, the application for off - the - street parking per-
mit by F & W Construction Company on English Street between Idaho
and Hoyt Avenue, which was denied by a unanimous vote of the City
Council on August 18, 1964, is scheduled for a reconsideration in
another Council Hearing September 10, 1964. Needless to say, we
were overjoyed to hear the Council's decision against it on
August 18, 1964, fully realizing that if this weren't a unique
situation, F & W had every legal right to this permit. We believe
the Council, after taking all things into consideration, acted
prudently and in the best interests of the entire area.
It is inconceivable t at an antiquated zoning law dating back to
1922 is allowedite a tranquillity of a residential area that
has developed only in the last five to ten years. Why one -half
block was so set aside as commercial property in 1922 is hard to
ascertain. It was developed nevertheless, with Single Family
Dwellings leaving two unimproved lots and purchased at different
times by F & W Construction Co.. These lots, one 60 feet, and
another 50 feet were not adjoining. The nearby residents anti-
cipated private homes such as their own, but this past Spring,
F & W purchased a house 6n a 120 foot lot situated between their
previously mentioned properties. By moving the house to another
location, F & W would be able to construct their proposed 27 -unit
apartment building allowing off street parking for 27 automobile*.
A structure of this size in a block of single family dwellings
would be as Commissioners Peterson and Holland suggested, com-
pounding an error that took place in 1922.
We therefore, strongly urge you, your honor, and the City Council
to visit this area and see for yourselves that you should stand
by your original decision to not grant the off - street parking
permit to F & W.
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Commissioner Rosen has urged us by letter to immediately take
steps to rezone the balance of the block so that it conforms with
the existing properties zoned A Residential. A petition has
been submitted for the Councils approval. We sincerely hope you
see fit to do this. Thank you for your diligent consideration in
this matter.
Yours very truly,
Frank J. ang
1610 Chamber t .
St. Paul, Minn.
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
MINNESOTA
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
113 Court House 55102
224 -4612
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September 11, 1964
City Clerk
File 16485, Page
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You are hereby notified that a public hearing will be held in the
Council Chambers of the City Hall and Court House at 10:00 a.m.
on September 243 1964, on the application of F & W Construction Co.
for permit to install and operate a 27 -car off- street parking lot
in conjunction with a proposed 27 -unit apartment building on the
following described property: south 30 feet of Lot 2 and all of
Lots 3 thru 7, Block 2, Overbrook Addition. The property is located
on the west side of English Street between Hoyt and Idaho Avenues.
For further information call at Room 1315, Court House or phone
224 =4612, Extension 251.
JAMES J. DALGLISH
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Co mnissioner of Finance
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of F and W Construction Co.
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steel t you Sao& new notices to -
property owners
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to property odners- in the
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petitiob7th rezone late 1 through
15, Mmk, 2, ova
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Zoning Board.
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referred
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recommendation the atta
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o rezone Lots l.through 15,
inclusiv6, Block 2. We
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west sidm of English St
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Very truly yours.
City, Clerk
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>,RD OF ZONING, CITY OF SAINT PAUL
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July 7, 1964
Mr. Robert B. Gerber Jr.
City Clerk
Buildings .,
Dear Sir:
This is in the matter of the application of the F & W Construction
Company for a permit to install and operate a 27 car off - street parking
lot in conjunction with a,27 ,unit apartment_ development on property
located on the west side=of Englisb,Street between E. Hoyt and E. Idaho
Avenues which is described as the south 30 feet of Lot 2, and all of
Lots 3 thru 7 inclusive, Block 2, Overbrook Addition. The property is
zoned commercial and has been.isince the enactment of the Legislative
Zoning Code in 1922.__
Part of the subject,property is developed -'with a residence and the
balance!is vacant. The existing residence will be removed for the pro
posed development. The site has a frontage of 230 feet on English
Street and extends to a depth of 120 feet, resulting in an area of
27,6000 square feet. {
The Board of Zoning considered,this matter at its regular meeting on
June 4,' 1964. The staff reported that the proposal met the standards
for density and building ground coverage, and that the Traffic Engineer
has approved the plan which meets the standards for this type of "facility.
In consideration of these factors, the Board of Zoning recommends the
granting of the application for a 27 car off - street parking facility
on the above described property in accordance with final plans dated
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June 2, 1964.
Sincerely,
B. R. Teig, .I.P.
Recording Secretary
BRT :FGI;
Encl.
Z. F. 5516 Approved r �•
CC: Mr. Janes Member, Bard of Zoning
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City of Saint Paul, Minnesota
APPLICATION FOR SPECIAL COUNCIL USE PERMIT 2
(Please print or type) J
TO THE HDNORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
% the City Clerk
City of Saint;Paul, Minnesota
Application is hereby ade to' or reconstruct an existing
y install and operate ,a new (cross one out)
FILLING STATION
No. of islands and pumps
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No. of tanks and capacity:
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PARKING LOT for ( (ems (private use) (I 1 11 (
(indicate type)
Capacity of parking lot 3Tpa"I-; Mg spa ^oA
To be used in connection with: aUartment building
11 MISCELLANEOUS:
(indicate type such as Drive -in Refreshment Stand, Used Car
Lot, Dry Cleaning Pick -up Station, Ice Vendor, etc.)
Capacity of parking area:
*Location :West side of English St, between E. Hoyt and E. Idaho.
Legal Description • Lot Block
South 30 feet ' of Lot 22
Applicant's Name all of Lots 32 42 5, 6 -and 7 Block 2
F & W Construction Co.
Home or Office;Address:
1294 Schletti St. St. Paul, Minn/
Phone Number '
489- 0917
FORAW THE APPLICANT, by Peter Valenty, attorney
Signatu date
Address : 904 Minnesota Bldg. St. Paul, Minn.
Phone NO.: 222 - 8449
Addition
Overbrook
When completed: file three copies of this application form and three prints of
the preliminary lay -out plans of the proposed facility with the City Clerk,
Room 386, City Hall and Court House, Saint Paul, Minnesota
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*EXAMPLE: 1. S.E. corner of Main St. and First St.
2. South side of Main St. between First and Second St.
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CITY OF SAINT' PAUL
MINNESOTA
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
113 Court House 55102
224 -4612
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June 26, 1964
City Clerk
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You are hereby notified that a public hearing will be held in the
Council Chambers of the City Hall and Court House at 10:00 a.m. on
July 9, 1964, on the application of F. and W. Construction Company
for permit to install and operate a 27 -car off - street parking lot
in conjunction with a proposed 27 -unit apartment building on the
following'described property: South 30 feet of Lot 2 and all of
Lots 3 through 7 inclusive, Block 2, Overbrook Addition. The
property is located on the west side of English Street between
Hoyt and Idaho Avenues.
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For further information call at Room 1315, Court House or phone
224 - 4612,( Extension 251.
JAMES J. DALGLISH
Commissioner of Finance