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. FINAL ORDER
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- In the Matter of cartstrixctit��ri.��?_Gurb �,d gutt,er Or�. `bti'��i �3c'�e� Gf' lYtirPolk #�ive�.
�r�am �l�v��,nd A,v'�r., to T�,sw���•h B�reQ�; ,
under Prelimina,ry Order 2�78 approve� � �� ���
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Intermediary Order approved
A public heaxing �having been had upon the above improvement upon due notice, and the Council
having heaxd all persons, objections and recommendations relative thereto, and having fully considered
the same; therefore, be it � -
RESOLVED, By the Council of the City of St. Paul that the precise nature, extent a,nd kind of im-
provement ta be made by the said C7ty is , " _ -
to con��ru�� �� -cur� :and g�t�r o�n. �'�, �ic�e�. o�' Nt�r�o].k.Ave,r from.ClA'v��aud A've..
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and the Council hereby orders said improvement to be made.
RESOIIVED FURTIi�R, �`hat the Commissioner of Public Works be and is hereby instructed and
directed to prepare plans and specifica,tions for said improvement, and submit same ta the Council for
approval; that upou said approval, the pro�er city officials are hereby authorized and directed to pro-
ceed with the making of said improvement in accordance therewith.
coUrrc�MEN � � �� NOV 4 1964
Adopted by the Council
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. , �USUSHED NOV �
OCTOBER 8, i96�
HONORABLE MAYOR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL
SAINT FAUL� MINNESOTA
RE: PETITION FOR CURB AND GUTTER ON
NORFOLK AVENUE FROM CLEVELAND TO KENNETH
GENTLEMEN:
THERE ARE TWO PETITIONS BEFORE YOU. ONE FAVORS CURB AND GUTTER� THE OTHER
DOES NOT. EIGHT SIGNATURES APPEAR ON EACH.
BOTH PETITIONS HAVE THREE SIGNATURES IN COMMON. SINCE THESE THREE HAVE SIGNED
BOTH PETITIONS� IT IS INDICATED THAT THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT THE�CURB AND
GUTTER WERE DESIRABLE IMPROVEMENTS. PERHAPS THEY STILL D0� BUT SINCE• THEY HAVE
SIGNED THE PETITION AGAINST� IT SEEMS OBVIOUS THAT THEIR ONLY REASON IS THAT
THEY NOW FEEL IT IS T00 EXPENSIVE. SINCE THE TIME OF THE PETITION AGAINST THE
CURB� PUBLIC WORKS HAS REDUCED THE ESTIMATE FROM �5.97 A FOOT TO �5• 19•
WE STILL FEEL THAT THE CURB AND GUTTER ARE DESIRABLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE
FOLLOWING REASONS:
I . THE STREET IS POORLY DRAINED. THIS WOULD BE IMPROVED WITH THE
INSTALLATION OF CURB.
' 2. THE STREET HAS A GENTLE RADIUS AND THE PLOW DRIVERS CANNOT FIND
THE STREET BOUNDARY AFTER A SNOW. CONSEQUENTLY� THE SOD IS
TURNED BACK EACH TIME THE PLOWS GO THROUGH CREATING PROBLEMS
IN THE SPRING.
3. THE BERM IS BEING BROKEN DOWN BY PARKED CARS AND THE STREET IS
GRADUALLY NARROWING BECAUSE OF IT. THE BLOCK TO THE EAST HAS
NARROWED TO THE POINT THAT IT IS DANGEROUS TO PARK CARS ON
BOTH SIDES. IF OUR CURB AND GUTTER ARE PUT IN� IT IS HOPED THAT
OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST WILL APPRECIATE THE IMPROVEMENT AND
HAVE THE CURB EXTENDED TO THEIR BLOCK.
�. ON THE STRENGTH OF THE ORIGINAL PETITION THE CITY HAS GONE TO
CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE TO SURVEY THE AREA� CHECK SIGNATURES AND
MAKE ESTIMATES OF THE WORK. IN VIEW OF THIS� AND THE OTHER
FACTORS IN FAVOR OF THE IMPROVEMENT� WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
THAT THE ORDER BE ISSUED FOR THE WORK TO BE DONE.
VERY..,TRULY YOURS� '
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ZO2 � NORFOLK AVENUE
� REAL7'I'
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�� 1050 Clevela _Avenue South
Saint Paul 16, Minnesota
Telephone Mldway 8-88�8
October 29, 1961� .-•
Mr. James d. Dalglish
Comm. of Finance
231� City Hall & Court House
St. Pau1 2, Minnesota.
Dear J3.m:
I �anted to write you rel.ative to the petition for the construc�ion
of a curb and gutter on No�folk Avenue between Cleveland and Kenneth
Street. This matter is scheduled to be heard by the Council on Nov-
ember.l�th.
When this petition was first circulated about a yeax ago by one of
� neighbors I aigned in favor of the improvement as I have always
done when improvements to the City were envolved. However, �ust
recently a petition against this improvement has been circulated by
another nei�hbor and it is �y understanding that about one-half or
more of the people concerned are now opposed to the improvement.
Some of these are my good friends and immediate neighbors.
r The improveanent being petitioned only covers a two block axea. which
• lea.ves the remainder of the street unimproved in respect to the
gutter and curb. While I sti71 feel this �ould be a desirable im-
provement, I would dislike to aee the neighborhood divided over this
issue. For this rea.son I feel that I should withdraw my support of
the petition at this time.
Your consideration in this matter is very m�ach appreciated.
Sincerely,
L. . Bisanz
LWB/v� -
, _ . Member State & National
Association of Realtors
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' '� � DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
MINNESOTA
I13 Court House,55102
JAMES J. DALGLISH, Commissioner Phone: 2z4-46�2
THOMAS J.KELLEY, Depufy Commissioner 6c+.343-344
November 6, 1964
Mr. Robert Gerber
City Clerk
BUILDING
Dear Sir:
Will you please have the attached letter read at the
•council hearing this morning.
Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
a.mes Dalglish
Commissioner of Finance
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November 5, 1964
Commissioner James J. Dalglish
Department of Finance -
. City Ha11 ,
St. Paul, Minn.
Re: Curbing on Norfolk Avenue, both sides from Cleveland Ave.
to Renneth Street - your Fi1e No. 16583
We have been informed by Commissioner Rosen that because nobody
appeared at the hearing on November 4, the improvement will go
through. -
Because of the fact that we had signed petitions against this im-
provement and also signed letters which were sent out to us asking
our opinion on the subject, we felt that our feelings were indicated
sufficiently. However, we have been informed by Mr. Rosen that be-
cause nobody appeared at the hearing on November 4, the improvement
� will go through. This hearing had been postponed twice.
We hereby request a rehearing on this matter.
Very truly yours,
Mrs. M. J. Steyaert
2005 Norfolk Avenue r
Mr. and Mrs. George Moudry
2020 Norfolk Avenue
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Mr. and Mrs. David I,oes
2014 Norfolk Avenue ,
. Mr. and Mrs. Robert�Schanke . - ' �
2001'Norfolk Avenue - , - - . ' .
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To The Honorable, The Council,
City of St. Paul, Minn. �
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Gentlemen:
We, the undersigned property owners, hereby petition your Honorable Body�� �aue °
the fullowing improvement to be made: , `
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OFFICE OF THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC W ORKS '��QS��
REPORT TO COMMISSIONER OF FINANCE
August 28, 19 64
To the Commissioner of Finance of the City of St . Paul;
The Commissioner of Public Works , having had under consideration the pre—
li mi nary order of the Counci 1 knocvn as Caunci 1 Fi le No. 212978
approved_ May 28, 1g63 19 relative to construction of concrete curb
and gutter (B624) on both sides of NORFULK AVENUE from Cleveland Avenue to Kenneth
Avenue.
and having investigated � the matters and things referred to therein� hereby
reports:
1. The estimated cost thereof is $• S 6440.53
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2. A plan, profi le or sketch of said improvement � 3��eto �+ ached
� and made a part hereof, ti p�G19�� �
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