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RESOLUTION
OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
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Green Sheet # 3030761
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WHEREAS, the Legislative Hearing Officer recommends that a request for an application for the following
license (ID # 0016111) Change in liquor service area by moving two tennis courts to an area which was
previously used as parking for Town & Counhy Club Inc located at 300 Mississippi River Boulevard North be
approved with the following conditions:
1. The applicant must provide additional visual and noise screening along the north properry line
(consistent with the site plan, OS-129865, page L-1, approved on 10/OS/2005 to reduce the level of noise
experienced by the adjoining residential properties.
2. No sale or service of alcohol will be permitted at the pools, pool house (including the eating area) and
tennis courts after sunset.
Club house rules will prohibit the consumption of alcohol on the tennis courts.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby approves this license
application.
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City Council Research Center
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SaintPaul, MN 55102
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INTER-DEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
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TO: Councilmembers
FROM: Marcia Moermond, Legislative Heazing Officerj �� ��
RE: Town and Country Club: License Change relative to Liquor Service Area
I received a call last Wednesday from Peck Tiemey, a neighbor of the Tovm and Country Club. As she
was unable to attend the ]egislative heazing on May 8, 2006, she wanted me to be awaze of the fol]owing,
in order to complete the record of this case:
• Relative to the discussion of the breezeway between the buildings, she wanted to note that her
information came from Byron Starns of the Club on the types of doors to be used. This was
shared with her on a review of the plans which took place in her kitchen.
• Relative to the screen porch, the side walls were divided into 3 pacts: the 2/3 on the bottom was
glass, and the 1/3 on the top was screen according to plans discussed with her and her neighbor
on the day they visited the Club.
• She indicated that as of last Wednesday, no vegetation had been put in on the northem part of the
properiy a�d that a great deal had been removed.
• It is her view that sound barriers are an ugly alternative.
• She indicated that the Desnoyer Pazk Association neither endorsed or opposed the license
application, although representatives of the Club indicated there was an endorsement.
• She continues to be concerned about the possibility of a walk-up bar service in the poo] or tennis
areas.
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I discussed these matters with Ms. Tierney and indicated to her that I would amend the record, but afrer a
review, do not recommend further changes to the agreed upon conditions on the license.
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Approving change in liquor service azea by moving two tennis courts for Town & Counhy Club, 300 Mississippi River Boulevazd
North, to an area which was previously used as pazking.
itlations: Appro�e (A) or F
Planni(g Commission
CIB Committee
CiHI Senice Commission
1. Has this persoNfirm eeer worked under a contract for this departmerrt?
Yes No
2. Has this persoNfirtn e�er been a city employee?
Yes No
3. Does this person/firm possess a skill not nortnally possessed by any
current city employeel
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Initiating Problem, Issues, Opportunity (Who, What, When, Where, Why):
Advan W ges If Approved:
Disadvantages If Approved:
Disadvantages If Not Approved:
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May 15, 2006 9:33 PM Page 1
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MINUTES OF THE LICENSE HEARING
Town & Country Club, Inc.
Monday, May 8, 2006, 2 p.m.
310 City Hall -NW Conference Room, 15 Kellogg Boulevard
Marcia Moermond, L,egislative Hearing Officer
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The hearing was cailed to order at 2:00 p.m.
Staff Present: Christine Rozek and Jeff Hawkins, License, Inspecfions and Environmental
Protection (LIEP); and Jean Birkholz, Council Research.
Others Present: Bill Brady, Charley Stewart, Vincent Tracy, Town and Country Club, Inc., 300
Mississippi River Boulevard North
Ms. Moenmond stated that this license application is for a change in liquor service azea by moving two
tennis courts to an azea which was previously used as parking. She went on to explain the process.
Because this is a license application, it triggers a community notification. The City received a few
letters of concem. The out come of this hearing could be one of three things: 1) she could recommend
to the City Council that they issue this license without conditions; 2) recommend to the City Council
that they issue this license with agreed upon conditions; or 3) she could recommend to the City Council
that they refer this matter to an Administrative Law Judge.
Christine Rozek, LIEP, provided a staff report:
Historv: Town and Country is a golf course that has been in Saint Paul for 110 years. The existing club
house and pool were built in the 1960s. Since that time, they've had liquar service in the club house,
poot house and adjacent patio areas, Town and Country is now undergoing a rebuild of the pool house
and tennis courts. As part of this rebuild, Town and Country set up a project review with LTEP staff.
During that review, LIEP staff advised that the outdoor azea surrounding the pool house would require a
separate outdoor service area license because it was no longer "compact and contiguous" with the
existing club house. Town and Country made the suggested application and LIEP staff notified
neighbors within 350 feet of the property line of the proposed outdoor service addition to the liquor
license.
The General Manager of Town and Country, Vince Tracy, contacted the state regarding the liquor
license issues and was told that under state law, golf courses need only one license, and the whole issue
of "compact and contiguous" according to state law, does not apply to golf courses and country clubs.
Ms. Rozek called the state and was told that in fact, golf courses require only one license.
State and Citv Regulations: The ordinances of Saint Paul do not provide a definition of `9icensed
premises." In the absence of a definition in the legislative code, the state definition applies unless such
an application would create a conflict. The state definition of "licensed premises" in relevant part is
"located" on a golf course, `licensed premises' means the entire golf course except for azeas where
motor vehicles aze regulazly parked or operated." Minn. Stat. § 340A.101. So, according to Minnesota
Statutes, the liquor license service azea is every part of the golf course except the parking lot and the
street. So, technically, there can be no liquor on Otis.
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The Saint Paul Legislative Code requires approval by the City Council of any change in liquor service
azea after notice to property owners within 350 feet of fhe property line. Saint Paul Leg. Code §
409.11(a). A Legislative Hearing is scheduled if neighbors voice concerns regarding the service area.
Change in Liquor Service Area: The site plan shows that the existing layout of facilities is going to
change by constructing_a new_gooUtennis_building ia-tke a�ea-�uke�e te�tnis-eeurts-had "'"
- importantly, by moving the two (2) southerly tennis courts to the east of the northerly two (2) courts.
These two (2) new eastem courts will replace what is currently pazking. Because pazking is not part of
the licensed premises, this move constitutes a change in liquor service area. This change in liquor
service azea requires notice under the legislative code.
Plannine Commission: The project went through the site plan review process. A public hearing was
held on August 4, 2005, before the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, and the Plauning
Commission approved the site pian with a setback variance for the pooUtennis building. The Planning
Commission placed two (Z) conditions on their approval:
1) Town and Country must provide additional visual and noise screening along the nofth
Property line; and
2) the pools, pool house and tennis courts are not lighted or used after sunset.
Ms. Rozek noted that Town and Country Club does not intend to serve liquor on the tennis courts, but it
is probably realistic to think that on occasion, drinks will go out to the tennis courts. Staff is
recommending approval of this change in liquor service area with the two (2) conditions that were
placed on it by the Planning Commission.
Ms. Moermond asked Ms. Rozek to clarify the different or additional requirements behveen a change in
service area versus an outdoor/patio add-on existing liquor service. Ms. Rozek noted that there were
no differences or additional requirements.
Mr. Bill Brady stated that at their house committee meeting on Thursday of last week, the committee
approved the rule that alcohol and/or food aze not permitted on the tennis courts. Town and Country
Club does not intend to expand the scope of their liquor service by serving on those two (2) courts that
might encroach on what was previously a pazking area.
Regarding the conditions that were added by the Planning Commission, Ms. Moermond noted that the
first one is more future-oriented. Mr. Brady stated that they aze currently in the Phase I of their
construction project, and a Phase II has yet to be determined. With respect to the no3se abatement issue,
Town and Country did hire both an azchitectural firm and an engineer to look at issues related to that.
Within the construction of the pool house itself, they aze using materials that will attenuate the noise. In
addition to that, the project is still in process. The construction of the tennis courts is happening
contemporaneously with this meeting. A proposed solution that has been shazed with the neighbors is to
hang noise abatement screens. For lack of a better description, he said that this type of screen reminded
him of what you'd put up to protect against crashing into the wall behind a basketball hoop. Chazley
Stewart noted that the technical name for the noise abatement screen is a"sound seal." Vincent Tracy,
general manager, added that the plants are arriving today that will provide a visual screen.
Ms. Moermond asked about the plans for the project. Mr. Brady explained that the leader, Byron Starns,
who did a lot of work on this project, was not able to be here today. He did have meetings both with the
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neighborhood group and with individuals in the neighborhood. The two (2) conditions that were added
during the Condition Use Pernut process were added partly, because of those meetings.
The pool was built in 1957 above ground; now, it is old and it is leaking. Back in 1993 when Mr. Brady
joined the club, he was told tl�at the pool needed to be replaced. The club nursed it along for quite a few
years, but it very much did need to be repiaced., It did_n't meet a11 the cod�s that a nPw r�-- -
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that the club house was quite aged and may at some time in the future need to be replaced. And, like
many clubs, the Town and Country has kut hazd times; it has lost membership. As much as they would
have liked to do both projects at one time, the club membership didn't feel that it was financialiy
feasible at this time. A new club house would be Phase II, which has not been approved by the
membership. One of the predicaments that was presented to the board and the membership was if they
aze to do a Phase TI and replace the pool in the exact same site, it would create a problem. Construction
of Phase II would have interrupted the improvements and caused great waste associated with keeping
the pool on the same site; thus, the pool needed to move. Where to put the pool became the next
question. Also, there's a sewer line that has an easement thaYs buried 25 feet, and the club did not want
to put the pool or the tennis facility house on top of that easement. Then, the club considered putting the
pool at the very northern part of the property line, which would have been much closer to the neighbors,
and the membership believed, might haue presented a greater nuisance in terms of noise levels. What
the club elected to do was to build the pool to the south side of the properiy and recess it, so from south
to north it goes pool, recess, upper deck, pool tennis house, tennis courts, and then adjacent
neighborhood properties. Mr. Moermond asked staff to provide a map of that configuration. Mr. Brady
added that putting the tennis house in between the pool and the tennis courts would provide additional
noise abatement as it related to a couple of the adjacent properties. This configuration was presented
and approved through a number of processes. Mr. 5tarns met with both the Merriam Park Community
Council
Mr. Brady interjected that he believes that the Town and Country Club is the largest employer in
Merriam Park, and he believes also, the lazgest landowner in Merriam Park, and some Merriam Park
meetings came down without as much as an invitation to the club, which was somewhat of a
disappointment because the club would have welcomed the opportunity to share in greater detail the
proposed plans. Subsequent to these meetings, there were meetings between Mr. Starns and the
neighborhood and individuals in the neighborhood, all of which brought the club to this point in the
process.
Ms. Moermond asked staff to report on the site plan. Mr. Hawkins (LIEP), started with condition #1
that the Planning Commission added to the Conditional Use Permit:
1) Town and Country must provide additional visual and noise screening along the north
property line.
In addition to the existing vegetation, the applicant has agreed to put in 22 spruce trees, six (6) feet tall at
ten (10) feet on center and two (2) oak trees, 2'/z inches in diameter. They aze also putting in a six foot
tall juniper hedge. According to Tom Beach, landscape azchitect, normally, an applicant puts in one (1)
tree every I S feet; this is more intense. The site plan was approved without additional structural
screening.
Ms. Moermond stated that this change is really a negligible change in service area. She received a
phone call this moming from Ms. Peck Tierney, who's in Maryland. Ms. Tierney wanted to be sure that
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her letter was received. Merriam Pazk quite exclusively addressed their concerns to expansion of the
liquor license service area and talks about noise containment measures. The two (2) noise mitigations
spoken of here today have been landscaping with trees and the sound seal. Ms. Moermond asked if
there was a comment about Merriam Pazk's suggestion of installing operational doors on the north side
of the new pooUtennis/grill area, which is now designed as an open breezeway azea. Mr. Stewart noted
that the plan was to never have doors on there,_It's by definition.abzeezeu�a};-it'-s�est �ue{2�-----
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"sepaTate buildings connected by a single roof line, so there was never any discussion with neighbors
about any door, at all. The only discussion about a door was for a security reason. Mr. Brady added that
the breeaeway did come up for discussion and the potential of noise coming through. The issue has
been addressed and resolved, as far a Town and Counhy thought. A few days before Ms. Tierney wrote
her letter of concern, Town and Counhy did meet with her to discuss issues. Her comment was that it
was good that there was still time to make changes. Town and Counhy's response was that it was too
late in time to make significant changes.
Mr. Hawkins continued his report. He referred to the Zoning Committee meeting minutes, August 4,
2005. District Council 13 stated their conditaons for approval:
L Limits on how late the new tennis courts could be used should be imposed.
They changed ihis from 10:00 pm. to sunset because sunset would be preferable.
2. Sound proofing measures should be implemented to limit the noise emanating from the
courts/ pool area and pool equipment. These measures should be both structural and landscaping
sound barriers, and should be sufficient to attenuate noise associated with the planned facilities
so that neighbors to the north are not excessively impacted.
Peck Tiemey also shazed concerns about the impact on her home as faz as food odors. She questioned
the effectiveness of a walk-through building as a sound barrier and anticipated that the pool building
would produce food odors from outdoor grilling. She expressed concern that the parties held at the pool
building would be a source of noise and eating, and the winter use of the courts as an ice rink would
bring yeaz-round noise. She stated that the neighbors do not want to impede the progress of the club, but
hoped the club carefuliy considered noise and light buffering, and that stipulations be made to protect
the quality of the adjoining properties. And, after that was all said and done, the Planning Commission
did add conditions, but did not state whether is should be a structure or landscaping, leaving that up to
the site plan review process. These things were addressed at the Planning Commission meeting and the
Planning Commission approved the site plan with two (2) conditions.
Mr. Tracy noted that the pool is now at a lower elevation, so the noise will carry less.
Ms. Moermond asked about an item listed in Peck and Bob Tierney's letter that talked about "the stated
doors on the north and south sides aze now security doors, reportedly only for closure at closing time
and kept open throughout business hows..." Mr. Brady responded that was a mistake of fact. He added
that Ms. Tierney called to ask for a site visit. At that time, there was some confusion as to whether there
was some glass on the screened-in porch, which is on the west side of the building; and, there is no glass
anywhere on the screened porch, nor has there ever been other than the ingress and egress doors that
access the porch. There was never any intention of having any glass on the screened-in porch. It's a
one-season porch.
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Mr. Tracy noted that the Desnoyer Park Association, which Ms. Tierney chairs, voted to not send a
letter, but to support the club.
Ms. Moermond stated that the first concern cited in Ms. Tierney's letter is about the addition of a
proposed alcohol service area. However, this is not an expansion of service azea; it is a re-configuration
of service area. The second concern cited in Ms. Tierney's letter is that a north�able_�as �minxrP�,___�_ __-_
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sides of the building. Tn the process of reviewing azchitectural plans and also trying to operate with
certain budgetary constraints, the north gable at one time configured on an azchitectural rendering, was
eliminated as a cost-saving measure. Ms. Moermond asked if that elimination was obvious during the
site plan review process. Mr. Tracy responded that it was not even an issue. It's an aesthetic issue and
there aze no special standazds for aesthetics. Ms. Moermond added that this is not an historic property
where the elimination of an existing gable is important.
Ms. Moermond asked about the limitations on the tennis courts for food and alcohol and the length of
time that the pool can be used. Mr. Brady responded that these aze contained in the house rules that
were recommended the by House Committee and will be voted on by the board at their May meeting.
Ms. Moermond suggested that they consider adding these limitations to the conditions for the license,
which may help to ameliorate some of the neighbors' concerns.
Some discussion ensued.
Ms. Moermond will recommend to the City Council that they approved this request for a change in
liquor service area with the following conditions, which were acceptable to the representatives of the
Town and Country Club:
1. The applicant must provide additional visual and noise screening along the north property line
(consistent with the site plan, OS-129865, page L-1, approved on 10/OS/2005 to reduce the level
of noise experienced by the adjoining residential properties.
2. No sale or service of alcohol will be permitted at the pools, pool house (including the eating
area) and tennis courts after sunset.
3. Club house rules will prohibit the consumption of alcohol on the tennis courts.
The hearing was adjourned at 3:27 p.m.
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Ms. Marcia Moeimond
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St. Paul, MN 55102
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The Metriam Park Cammunity Council has been asked to offer comment on an application by
the Town and Country Club, 300 N. Mississippi R.iver Blvd, to change the terms of its liquor
license. The application seeks to expand Town and Couniry's present liquor service to a new
outdoor pool azea This azea is under wnstruction as part of an expansion of Town and
Counhy's facilities.
At the time of the site plan review for the expansion, Town and Country Club requested a set-
6ack variance. The Merriam Park Community Council recommended approval of the variance
request with the condition that noise abatement techniques be used to limit the impact of the new
pool and poolltennis buildiag on neighbors.
It has been brought to our attention by residents that the areas where liquor wiIl be served under
the requestad license changa--the pool and pool-side azeas-�o not appear to have sufficient
noise containment in the present plans. In partioulaz, the doors on the north and south sides of
the of the pooUtentus building are reportedly planned on2y for closure at closing times, and will
be kept open throughout business hours. This effectively cancels a great deal of the noise
buffering fmm the pool and patio area that this building was supposed to serve.
It is the position of the Meaiam Park Community Council, as approved by the Council's
Executive Committee, that no expansion of Town aad Coantry's liqnor license shouid be
granted anless and until better nofse containment measures a�: �dopted. Such measures
include:
• 1nsYalling operational doors on the north side of the new pool/teanis/grill azea, which is�
now designed as an apen breezeway azea. These doors aze to remain closed during
business hours to contain noise from the neighbors to the north.
• Installing giass on the north side o�.the grill area, rather Yhan pazhially screening the space
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• Increase the planned use of dense vegetation on the north side of the T&C property to
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The Merciam Park Community Council therefore opposes granting Town and Couniry Club the
reqnested change in their Iiquor license at this time, pencling a demonsirated connmitment by the
Club to min;�,,;�e their aoise impact on their immediate neig�bors.
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T4ie pwpose qf this letter is to register an objection to Town and Cauntry Club's
application to add liquor outdoor service to the existing liquor on sale license.
The new poolltennis bldg. was allowed by modification of special use permit to be built
150' from the residential properry line (200' required).As immediately adjacent
neighbors of this structure we took part extensively in the process. However, several
changes from the approved plans have been made during the constrvction of the
pooUtennzs bldg:
1. The addition of a proposed alcohol service area in the new pooUtennis bldg. is a pIan
not made known to the neighborhood at the time the modification of a special use permit
was granted on August 12, 2D06.We asked the question and were told thare was not to be
an alcohol serving area in t}us building. Aicohol service is perceived as being a factor
which typically increases noise and activity, and to have a negative 3mpact on adjacent
residential property. �-�
2. The planned and drawn no� gable ` eliminated from the massive roaf with
negative aesthetic impact to the �torki��
3. Most importantly, the stated doors on Y3ie north and south sides aze now security doozs,
reportedty onIy for closure at closing time and kept open throughout business hours,
effectively canceling a great amaunt of noise buffering from the pool and pada which this
bldg. was to have. Again, we asked the question and were told there wouid be doors, thus
reducing the pool and patio noise during business hours from traveling through the
building
As property owners immediately to the north of the pooUtennis/grill, where a liquor
service area is now also proposed, in order to reduce the level of noise, we request the
following steps before constrnction is completed:
1. Install operational swinging doors for use during business hours on the north side of
the new pooUtennis/gill area in the area now designed as au open breezeway area The
nse of such doors was stated as a pianned design and was a deciding factor in granting the
modification af the speciat use permit. Reportedly these doors are not in the current plan.
2. Install glass windows on the north side of the grill rather than using 2/3s glass and 1/3
screen on this side. This would reduce noise from the porchlgrill eating and driuking area.
3. Iucreasa the planted vegetation (trees, etc) on the north side in addition to whax has
already been promised and planned.
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In a sincere effort to handle this with T&C as neighbors, as we have done with issues for
the past 30 yeazs, this comment and reqnest for consideration was taken to Mr. Vincent
Tracy, T&C General Manager on April 7, 20Q6 with the stated reguest for a decision
before April 19 at which time Merriam Pk. Land Use Comtt►ittee met. As of the date of
this letter we unfortunately have not been informed of a decision by T&C nor has there
been an attempt to further discuss tfiis with us.
We have been neighbors for 30 years and have enjoyed an unusually cooperative
relationship with Yhe club. We realize Ure tremendous asset that Town and Country is to
our neighUorhood and hope that these efforts to maintain a residential character to the
area will be to everyone's mutual benefit. Though we do not wish to stop liquor sale in
this new building we do expect T&C to make an effort to mitigate the impact that alcohol
in close proximity to residentiai property wi11 bring.
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264 Felham Bivd
6t. Paul 55104
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OFFICE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIONS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTEC?ION
Bob Kessler, Director
CITY OF SAII3T PAUL cohtMExca av�tDlNc
Christopher B. Coleman, Mayor 8 Fourth Saeet Eas1, Smte 200
SiPaui, Minnesoia 55701-1024
LICENSE REVIEW SUMMARY
Date:
Monday, May 8, 2006 at 2:00 PM
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Telephone: 651-266-9D90
Facsimile: 6i1-266-9124
Web: vrirw.liep.vs
LicenseInformation: 0015111
Town & Country Club Inc
located at 300 Mississippi River Boulevard North
Vincent Tracy, General Manager
Change in liquor service area by moving two tennis courts to an azea
which was previously used as parking
Recommended License Conditions:
08/12/2005 Planning Commission Resolution #05-78 for the modification of a golf course special
condition #OS-133-107 to allow a new pool building 150 feet from residentially used property
(200 ft. required) on properry located at 300 Mississippi River Boulevard North is approved
subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant provides additional visual and noise screening along the north property line to
reduce the level of noise experienced by the adjoining residentia] properties.
2. The pools, pool house (including the eating area), and tennis courts are not lighted and are not
used after sunset.
Current Licensee: same
Inspection Requirements:
LIEP Recommendatian:
Building: in process
Environmental Health: in'process
Fire: in process
License: recommends approval
Zoning: recommends approval
LIEP recommends approval with conditions.
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city of saint paul
pianning commission resolution
file number o5-7a ___________________
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date Auqust 12. 2005
WHEREAS, Town and Country Club, File # 05-133-107, has appfied for a modification of a golf course
special condition to allow a new pool building 150 ft. from residentially used property (200 ft. required)
under the provisions of §65233(b) of the Sai�t Pau{ Legislative Code, on property located at 300
Mississippi River Blvd. N., Parcel Identification Number (PIN) 3229233400�3 and 322923340018, legally
described as TOWN AND COUNTRY PLACE TRACT IN SW 1/4 OF SEC 32 T 29 R 23 BOUNDED ON
N BY TOWN AND COUNTRY PL ON E BY OTIS AVE AND ON S BY MARSHALL AVE AND ON W BY
RIVER BLVD ALSO IN SD TOWN AND COUNTRY PL PK LANE VAC ADJ AND LOT B; DESNOYER
PARK R,4MSEY CO., MINN. BEG AT A PT ON NLY L OF ROUND LANE VAC 15 FT WLY FROM SE
COR OF LO7 21 BLK 30 TH ELY ON NLY L OF SD ROUND LANE TO SE COR OF LOT 24 TH SELY
ON SWLY L OF OTIS AVE EXTENDED TO NE COR OF LOT C TH SWLY ON S�Y L OF SD ROUND
LANE TO A PT 10 FT ELY FROM WLY L OF LOT 21 EXTENDED TH NELY TO PT OF BEG & EX
BI.VD PART OF SD �OT C NLY OF A � RUN FROM A PT QN ELY L QF & 56.66 FT FROM SELY COR
THEREOF TO A PT ON WLY L OF & 66.20 FT FROM SWLY COR OF SD LOT C; and
WHEREAS, the Zoning Committee of the Planning Commission, on August 4, 2005, held a public
hearing at which all persons present were given an opportunity to be heard pursuant to said application
in accordance with the requirements of §64.300 of the Saint P aul Legisiative Code; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Planning Gommission, based on the evidence presented to its Zoning
Committee at the public hearing as substantially reflected in the minutes, made the following findings of
fact:
1. According to the application, the Town and Country Club has been located at the northeast corner of
Marshall and Mississippi River Blvd. for 110 years. The existing club house and pool were built in
the 1960's, a�d the applicant w ishes to replace them. Phase 1 includes relocating two of the tennis
courts and replacing the separate pool and tennis buil dings with a new com bined building. P hase 2,
which is not a part oF this app(+cation, will include a new club house.
2. Golf courses are permitted in the R3 zoning district subject to four conditions. Since the applicant is
proposing to replace an accessory buiiding, an entirely new conditional use permit is not required.
However, one of the conditions is not m et, and the applicant is requesting a modification of it.
3. Section 65.233(b) states: Development features, including the principal and accessory buildi�gs
and sfrucfures, shall be located and related so as to minimize the possibilities of any adverse
effects upon adjacent property. All principal or accessory Buildings or structures shall be srtuated at
least two hundred (200) feet from any property line abutting residentiaily zoned or used lands;
provided, thaf where topographic conditions are such that buildings would be screened from view,
the planning commission may modify this requirement. The applicant is proposing to alter the
existing layout of facilities by moving the two southerly tennis courts to the east of the northerly two
courts and removing the existing tennis buii ding. They are not proposing any changes to the
moved by Morton
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Zoning File 05-133-107
Planni�g Commission Resolution
page 2
Iandscaping along the northerly property line. They will then construct the new pool/tennis buil ding
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northward as well. This plan results in both a developm ent feature (the tennis courts) and an
accessory building (the new pool/tennis building) being relocated closer to residentially used land.
The new building will be 150 ft. from the north property line, and the applicant is requesting
modification by the planning com mission of the 200 ft. distance requirement.
4. §61.501 lists five standards that ali conditional uses m ust satisfy:
(1) The extent, location and intensity of the use wi ll be in subsfantial compliance with the Sarnt Paul
Comprehensive Plan and any applicable s ubarea plans which were approved by the city council.
This condition is met. The zoning code permits golf courses and accessory facilities in
residentiaf districts. 7he fand use plan supports compatible mixing of uses (Policy 5.2.1 }. The
swimming and tennis facilities are accessory to the club.
(2) The use will provide adequate ingress and egress fo minimize tra�c congestion in the public
streets. This condition does not apply. T he new construction wiil not alter ingress and egress.
(3} The use wi(I not be detrimental to the existing character of the development in the immediate
neighborhood or endanger the public health, safety and general we/fare. This condition is met.
The proposed uses are existing, only the 4ocation wiA change.
(4) The use wrll not impede the normal and orderly development and improvement of the
surrounding property for uses permitfed in the disfricf. This condition can be m et. The existing
te�nis building is approximately 277 ft. from the northern property line; the existing pool house is
approximately 325 ft. from the property line; and the existing pool is about 390 ft. fr om the
northern property line. Under the plans proposed by the applicant, the com bined pool and ten nis
building will be 150 ft. from the northern property line, the small pool will be 220 ft. away and the
large pool will be 263 ft. away. The new pool house wil I also include a 48 ft. x 23.3 ft. screened
dining area and a small kitchen. Extensive use of this dining area could create additional noise
besides that caused by users of the tennis courts and the swimming pool itself. The appiicant
states that these faci lities will be closed at sunset, w hich can be as late as 9:00 p.m . in the
summer. Moving these centers of activity closer to the adjacent residential uses should be
accompanied by more noise and visual buffering for the residential uses. Providing this
additional buffering will meet this condition.
(5) The use shall, in all other respects, conform to the applicab/e regulations of the district in which it
is located. This condition is met provided the planning com mission approves modificatio� of the
distance requirement.
4. The planning commission may approve modifications of sQecial conditions when specific criteria are
met: strict application of such special conditions would unreasonably limit o� prevent otherwise
lawful use of a piece of property or an existing strucfure and would result in exceptional undue
hardship to the owner of such property or sfructure; provided, that such modification wrll not impair
the intent and purpose of suc h special conditron and is consistent with health, morals and general
welfare of the community and is consi sfent with reasonable enjoyment of adjacent proper fy. Strict
application of this condition would require the applicant to revise their plans, which include relocating
the service drive and loading dock to the south side of the club house, fur ther from the residences to
the north. Location of the buildings on the site is constrained by the presence of a storm sewer 25 ft.
below the ground. Nothing can be built over the storm sewer that would interfere with maintenance
and repair. For these reasons, the strict application of the distance condition would unreasonably
limit othen,vise lawful us of this properry and would result I exceptional undue ha rdship to the owner.
If sufficient visual and noise buffering is provided, the modification will not impair the intent and
purpose of the special condition and wil I be consistent with the health, morals and general welfare of
the community and with reasonable enjoyment of adjacent property.
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Zoning File 05-133-107
Planning Commission Resolution
page 3
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Saint Paul Planning Commission, under the authority of
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condition for a golf course to allow a new pooi buildi ng 150 ft. from residentially used property (200 ft.
required) at 300 Mississippi River B1vd. N. is hereby approved subject to ihe following additional
conditions:
1. the applicant provides additional visual and noise screening along the north property {ine to reduce
the level of noise experienced by the adjoini ng residential properties.
2. The Qools, pool house (includi�g the eating area), and tennis courts are not lighted and are not used
after sunset.
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
INTERDEPARTMENTALMEMORANDUM
DATE: iVMay 8, 2006
TO: Mazcia Moermond
Legislative Hearing Officer
FROM: Christine Rozek
Deputy Director, LIEP
RE: Town and Country, 300 Mississippi River Boulevard North
A. Historv: Town and Country is golf course that has been in Saint Paul for 110 yeazs. The
existing club house and pool were built in the 1960's. Since that time, they've had liquor
service in the club house, pool house, and adjacent patio areas. Town and Country is now
undergoing a rebuild of the pool house and tennis courts. As part of this rebuild, Town and
Counhy set up a project review with LIEP staff: During that review, LIEP staff advised that
the outdoor area surrounding the pool house would require a separate outdoor service area
license because it was no longer "compact and contiguous" with the existing club house.
Town and Counhy made the suggested application and LIEP staff notified neighbors within
350 feet of the properry line of the proposed outdoor service addition to the liquor license.
The General Manager of Town and Counhy, Vince Tracy, contacted the state regarding the
liquor license issues, and was told that under state law, golf courses need only one license. I
called the state and was told that in fact, golf courses require only one license.
B. State and Citv Reeulations: The ordinances of St. Paul do not provide a definition of
"licensed premises". In the absence of a defmition in the legislative code, the state definition
applies unless such an application would create a conflict. St. Paul Leg. Code § 2.18. The
state definition of "licensed premises" in relevant part is "located" on a golf course, `&censed
premises' means the entire golf course except for azeas where motor vehicles are regulazly
pazked or operated". Minn. Stat. § 340A.101.
The St. Paul Legislative Code requires approval by the City Council of any change in liquor
service area after notice to property owners within 350 feet of the properiy line. St. Paul Leg.
Code § 409.11(a). A Legislative hearing is scheduled if neighbors voice concerns regarding
the service area.
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G Chaare in Liauor Service Area: The site p2an shows that the existing layout of facilities is
going to change by constructing a new pooUtennisbuilding in the azea where tennis courts
had been, and, importan�ly, by movine the two southerly tennis courts to the east of the
northerlv two courts. These two new eastem courts will replace what is currently parking.
Because pazlflng is not part of the licensed premises, tlus move constitutes a change in liquor
service area. This change in liquor service area requires notice under the legislative code.
D. Planning Commission: The project went through the site plan review process. A public
hearing was held on August 4, 2005, before the Zoning Committee of the Planning
Commission and the Planning Commissian approved the szte plan with a setback variance for
the pooUtennis building. The piaiming commission placed two conditions on their approval:
1) Town and Country must provide additional visual and noise screening along the north
property Iine; and 2} the pools, pool house, and tennis courts are not Iighted or used after
sunset
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OFFiCE OF LiCEnSE Ii�'SPECTIONS A�D
ENVIItONMENTAL PR07'ECl'I01�
Bob Kessla, D'vutor
; CITY OF SAL�'T PAUL
� ChrisropherB. Coleman, Mayor
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COMMERCEBUILDING Te7epnorze: 651-?6G9090
8 Fossrth Sveet Eatt, Suire 200 Faaunile: 651-2669124
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Dear Resident and/or Neighborhood Organization:
The OfSce of License, Inspections and Environmental Protecrion (LIEP) has received an
application for a License for a business in your area. You aze being notified because this
request requires neighborhood norification.
Details regazding this matter aze given on the reverse side of this letter. You will have 45
days from the date this notice was mailed, to express any objections. The response deadline
is gven on the reverse side of this document. If you have any objecrions to the application as
described on the reverse side, please send your objection(s) (wifh your telephone number)
in writing to:
Marcia Moermond
Legislarive Hearing Officer
310 City Hall
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
Saint Paul, MN 55102
If objections aze received, a hearing will be scheduled beFore a legislative hearing officer. If
you have sent in an objection, you will receive norice of the time, place and date of the
scheduled hearing. At that hearing, the Legislative Hearing Officer will take testimony from
all interested persons. At the end of this heuing, the Lea slative Hearing Officer will make a
recommendation to the City Council as to whether the license request should be approved,
approved with conditions, or be refened to an administrative law judge for further review.
The City Council will have the final authority to grant or deny the license.
If you have any questions regarding this matter, please contact Corinne Tilley or Larty
Zangs, LIEP Project Facilitators, at (651) 266-9103, or me at (651) 266-9108.
Sincerely,
Chrisrine A. Rozek
LIEP Deputy Director
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LICENSE APPLICATION NOTIFICATTON
License Number: 0016111
Purpose: Application to add Liquor Outdoor Service (Patio) to the esisting Liquor
On Sale License -
License At: 300 Mississippi River Boulevazd North
Licensee: Tovm & Counhy ClubInc '
Vincent Tracy, General Manager, 651-646-7121
Recommended License Conditions: None
Response Date: April 28, 2006 at 4:30 PM (FYiday)
If you have any obj ections to the license application, you must respond in writing by
Friday, Apri128, 2006 To:
Marcia Moermond
Legislarive Hearing Officer
310 City Hall
15 West Kellogg Blvd
Saint Paul, MN 55102
If you have any queslions, please contact Corinne Tilley or Larry Zangs, LIEP Project
Facilitators, at 651-266-9103 or Christine Rozek, LIEP Deputy Duector, at 651-266-9108.
Notice Mailed: Mazch 13, 2006
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The purpose of this letter is to register an objecfion to Town and Country Club's
application to add liquor outdoor service ta the existing liquor on sale license.
The new pooUtennis bldg. was allowed by modification of special use permit to be built
150' from the residential property Iine (200' required).As immediately adjacent
neighbors of this structure we took part eartensively in the pmcess. However, several
changes from the apgroved plans have been made during the construction of the
pool/tennis bldg:
1. 'Fhe addition of a proposed alcohol service area in the new pooUtennis bldg. is a plan
not made laiown to the neighborhood at the time the modification of a special use permit
was granted on August 12, 2006.We asked the question and were toid there was not to be
an alcohoJ serving area in this buiiding. AIcohol service is perceived as beir�g a factor
which typically increases noise and activity, and to ha�e a negative unpact on adjacent
residential property.
2. The planned and drawn north gable was eliminated from the massive roof with
negative aesthetic impact to tke north.
3. Most unporTantly, the stated doors on the north and south sides are now security doors,
reportedly only for closure at closing time and kept open throughout business hours,
effectively canceling a great amount of noise buffering from the pool and patio which this
bldg. was to have. t�gain, we asked the question and were told there would be doors, thus
reducing the pool and patio noise diuing business hours from traueling through the
building
As property owners immediately to the north of the poolltennis/grill, where a liquor
service azea is now also proposed, in order to reduce the level of noise, we request the
fallowing steps before construction is completed:
1. Install operational swinging doors for use during busitiess hours on the north side of
the new pooUtennis/grilt azea in the area now designed as an open breezeway area. The
use of such doors was stated as a planned design and was a deciding factor in granting tha
modification of the special use pemut. Reportedly these doors aze not in the current pIan,
Z. Install glass windows on the north side of tiie grill rather than using 2I3s glass and 1/3
screen on this side. This wouid reduce noise fcom the porch/grill eating and drin� area.
3. Increase the planted vegetation (trees, etc) on the nortfi side in addition to what has
already been promised aud planned.