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WIIEREAS, the Legislative Hearing Officer recommends that a request to modify the conditions of an existing
license (ID # 0017792) Liquor On Sale, Liquor On Sale Sunday, Entertainment A, Restaurant Limited,
Gambling Location, and Cigarette/Tobacco License for Mr. C's Inc., Rudy Cervantez, owner, doing
business as Mr. C's at 429 Robert Street South, be approved with the following changes (in bold):
l. There are to be no patrons admitted to the establishment after 1230 a.m. and patrons who have left
are not to reenter after that.
2. Licensee will provide staff at each entrance to monitor activity and wand for weapons, nightly
from 9:00 p.m. to closing.
3. Management will provide the names and dates of birth of all employees and security personnel to
LIEP for purposes of running a background check. LIEP must be notified of changes in personnel
and this information will be supplied for all new employees prior to their start date.
4. Interior and exterior video surveillance cameras must be operating during all hours the establishment
is open. Tapes must be saved for a period of at least 14 days, and the dates and times of recording
must be accurate and visible on the videotapes.
5. Licensee must maintain a list of patrons who have been banned from the establishment for assaultive,
disorderly or disruptive behavior. The list must, at a minimum, contain a name and descriprion of the
banned patron as well as the date they were advised they were banned. No persons who are on the
list shall be permitted to be in the establishment or remain on the grounds. This list shall be
submitted to LIEP monthly.
6. Loitering in the parking lot shall not be permitted. The parking lot must be regularly patrolled to
insure compliance with this condition.
Litter on and around the premises is to be picked up daily.
(# 8 has been eliminated.)
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby approves this modification.
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Modifying tUe conditions of the existing Liquor On Sale, Liquoi On Sale Sunday, Entertau�ment A, Restautant Limited, Crmnbling
Lacarion, and CigarettGTobacco lioense held by Mr. C's Inc., Rudy Cervantez, owner, 429 Robert Street South.
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
OFFICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE OF LEGISLATIVE HEARING
Rudy Cervantez
Mr. C's, Inc.
429 Robert Street South
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55107
Mr. Cervantez:
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An objection has been raised to your request to modify an existing license condition for Mr. C's,
429 Robert Street South. You are invited to attend and participate in a hearing before the
Legislative Hearing Officer regazding this objection.
The Legislative Hearing will be held on:
DATE:
TIME:
PLACE:
Tuesday, February 7, 2006
3:00 p.m.
Saint Paul City Hall/Ramsey County Courthouse
Third Floor, Room #330, Committee Heazing Room
15 Kellogg Boulevazd West
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
At this hearing, the Legislative Hearing Officer will talce testimony from all interested people.
At the end of this hearing, she will make a recommendation as to whether the condition should
be removed. The City Council will have the final authoriTy to grant or deny your request.
c: Councilmember Thune
West Side Citizens Organization
West Side Safe Neighborhood Council
Rachel Gunderson, City Attorney's Office
LIEP Staff
Notice Mailed: 1/31/2006
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MINUTES OF THE LICENSE HEARING
Mr. C's, Inc., 429 Robert Street South
Tuesday, February 7, 2006
Room 330 City Hall, 15 Kellogg Boulevazd
Mazcia Moermond, Legislarive Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 3:06 p.m.
Staff Present: Christine Rosek, Kristina Schweinler and Jeff Hawkins, License,
Inspections and Environmental Protecrion (LIEP); and Jean Birkholz, Council
Research.
Others Present: Rudy Cervantez, owner and Christine Glaser; Joe Ruiz, Richard
Kittelson and Paul Dotty, neighbors; and Jocelyn van Toor, West Side Safe
Neighborhood Council.
Yvis. Moermond noted that this is a hearing regarding an application to remove a condition
(#8) from the existing license conditions:
1. There are to be no patrons admitted to the establishment after 1230 a.m. and
patrons who have lefr are not to re-enter after that.
2. All persons entering the establishment shall be checked for weapons (wanded)
at each of the entry doors beginning no later than 8:30 p.m.
3. Management will provide the names and dates of birth of all employees and
security personnel to LIEP for purposes of rwuiing a background check. LIEP
must be notified of changes in personnel, and this information will be supplied
for all new employees prior to their start date.
4. Interior and exterior video surveillance cameras must be operating during all
hours the establishment is open. Tapes must be saved for a period of at least
fourteen (14) days, and the dates and times of recarding must be accurate and
visible on the videotapes.
5. Licensee must maintain a list of patrons who have been banned from the
establishment for assaultive, disorderly or disruptive behavior. The list must,
at a minimum, contain a name and description of the banned patron, as well as
the date they were advised they were banned. No persons who are on the list
shall be permitted to be in the establishment or remain on the grounds. This
list shall be submitted to LIEP monthly.
6. Loitering in the parking lot shall not be permitted. The parking lot must be
regularly pah to insure compliance with this condition.
7. Litter on and around the premises is to be picked up daily.
8. Licensee shall employ security officers at a minimum on Thursday, Friday
and Saturday nights from 9:00 p.m. until closing. (to be reviewed within one
month of re-opening)
Ms. Moermond noted that a letter was received from a neighbor, which triggers a
legislative hearing. Ms. Moermond is working toward developing a recommendation to
present to the City Council regarding Mr. Cevantez' request. There are three (3) possible
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recommendations: 1) to grant his request to remove the condition; 2) to deny his request;
or 3) to modify the condition. That recommendation then goes before the City Council in
the form of a resolution. If Mr. Cervantez or the neighbors decided to appeal the City
Council's decision, the next venue would be district court.
Ms. Kristina Schweinler, license inspector, provided a staff report. She noted that Mr.
Cervantez is requesring that condition #8 be removed from his license:
Licensee shall employ security officers at a minimum on Thursday, Friday
and Saturday nights from 9:00 pm. unril closing. (To be reviewed within one
month or re-opening.)
Ms. Schweinler stated that staff's recommendation is to modify the conditions rather than
remove condition #8. She suggested that condition #2 be modified to require a bar
employee or bouncer to be wanding at the door to make sure that weapons aren't
introduced into the establishment.
Ms. Moermond asked how long this license has been in place. Mr. Cervantez responded
that he has owned the bar for nearly ten (10) years. Ms. Moermond asked if condition #8
had been on the license for that whole time. Ms. Schweinler replied that all of the
condirions were placed on the license about three (3) years ago. Ms. Moermond asked if
there have been previous adverse actions at this establishment. Ms. Schweinler referred
to the list of police calls from which she did not find any disturbing calls. There were a
lot of proactive visits. Mr. Cervantez has been very co-operative with the Police. There
have been incidences from fights. The current conditions were placed on the license
following a serious incident that took place at the bar, and Mr. Cervantez has been very
proactive in dealing with issues and very co-operative with staff's suggestions.
Mr. Cervantez explained that the reason he is asking to have condition #8 removed is
because business is bad right now; and after March 31 when the smoking ban goes into
effect, a lot of his customers will go to West Saint Paul. Primarily, he would like to have
condition #8 removed because it is too expensive to maintain, and after March 31, 2006,
the cost of employing security officers will be prohibitive. Currently, security costs Mr.
Cervantez $25 per hour. Ms. Glazer added that the last time there was an incident having
to do with weapons was April 11, 2003.
Mr. Cervantez was surprised that there was a letter from the neighbors that said he didn't
co-operate with his neighbors. He does everything he can to co-operate with his
neighbors, the LIEP office and the Police. Police visit the establishment for proacrive
visits. And, since the intersection is very active, the police patrol there quite frequently.
It doesn't necessarily mean that there's a Police call to the bar. Also, Mr. Cervantez has
numerous surveillance cameras inside ofthe bar (approximate2y $10,000 -$15,000
worth). He doesn't know what more he can do.
Mr. Paul Doriy, a neighbor, addressed the hearing officer. He lives approximately foriy
(40) yards from the bar, diagonally. His concern is the security, and it sounds as though
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Mr. Cervantez' security efforts are working. Mr. Dotty asked how many Police calls
there were last year. Ms. Moermond responded that there were a total of twenty-three
(23) calls in thirteen (13) months. Six of those were proactive Police visits. Mr. Dotty
commented that whatever the call is for, it doesn't look good. His concerns are fights and
drug acrivities happening around eight (8 pm) and nine (9 pm).
Mr. Joe Ruiz, a neighbor, addressed the hearing officer. He noted that his concern is
about drugs. He lives in a Drug Free Zone, but he sees a lot of drug activity taking place
outside the baz, especially in the summer.
Mr. Richard Kittelson, another neighbor, addressed the hearing officer. He noted that he
lives on the second floor, so when he looks out of his window, he sees the whole bar.
The concerns he has are the fights that erupt outside the bar and the drug activity thaYs
clearly visible going on outside of the bar. He spoke of an incident that made him very
concerned: a fancy van parked in his building's parking lot and two (2) men got out of
the van, put on bullet-proofed vests and proceeded to walk into Rudy's bar. He noted
that Rudy does a fine job of running the bar, but some of the bar's patrons create
problems for him, and he's concerned about safety.
Ms. Moermond noted that she is curious about where Mr. Cervantez is targeting his
cameras, and whether the Police have ever asked for footage of the intersection. Mr.
Cervantez answered that he has one camera above his awning that points to his parking
lot across Isabel; he has another camera in the back alley of his building. He has also
installed lights around his building because the Police asked him to. The Police also
asked him to put the pay phone inside of the bar, which he did. Mr. Cervantez recently
obtained a bid to put in more cameras. Ms. Moermond asked where he intends to put
them. He stated that one will go under the canopy and point to the front door. Three old
cameras will be changed to color. And, there is one camera hidden where oniy Mr.
CervanYez lmows.
Ms. Glaser commented that the security inside of the baz insures the safety of their
patrons. They are also concerned about the safety of their neighbars; however, she
pointed out that their neighboring businesses also play a part. Michaei's Pizza is open
unti12:30 a.m. and Megusta's is open unti19:30 p.m. They both serve alcohol. She
added that if all of the complaints are about what is going on outside, she would suggest
that all of the businesses join in to provide security for the block. Why should it fall
solely on the shoulders of one of the places of business? Ms. Moermond noted that Ms.
Glaser had a valid point. She is hearing that Mr. Cervantez has done a fabulous job of
looking at security concerns. The only incident involving weapons occurred on April 11,
2003, which resulted in the current condirions. The City Council will note that "iY s
working, so why change it." Ms. Moermond thinks that the best to hope for is to find a
middle ground, where security is still provided, but it is provided by the bar's own
employees. Mr. Cervantez noted that he has a policy that if the Police needs to be called
because of a customer, that customer has two (2) choices: 1) either they go with the
Police voluntarily; or 2) they are no longer allowed in the baz. The Police also requested
a list of people who are batred from the bar.
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Ms. Jocelyn van Toor, Crime Prevention Program, West Side Safe Neighborhoods,
addressed the hearing o�cer. Ms. van Toor reported that Mr. Cervantez attends their bar
owners meetings when they have them. She is hearing from block clubs, that security in
their neighborhoods is the number one concern among residents. She encouraged those
neighbors attending the hearing to also attend the block club meeting they are having
tonight at 630 p.m. at the Neighborhood House dining azea, where they will also be
talldng about a number of other issues. Ms. van Toor also noted that neighbors suggested
that bar owners have more cameras on the inside.
A short recess was taken for the purpose of Ms. Moermond conferring with Ms.
Schweinler.
Ms. Moermond recommended the following modificarion to #8 of the existing license
conditions for Mr. C's:
Licensee shall provide security or bar staff perfornung security functions
including wanding on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights from 9:00 p.m. until
closing.
Ms. Moermond added that this should help to cut costs significantly, and the function will
still be provided. Ms. Moermond recommended a one-year trial period, at which time, it
may be revisited to modify it fiirther or work toward elimination. Ms. Moermond
complimented Mr. Cervantez on the fine job he has been doing in addressing these
concerns. She noted that she is more concerned about the environment that he operates
in, and not having actions that the bar takes exacerbate safety problems in the vicinity of
the bar.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Cervantez if he agrees with the modification. Mr. Cervantez
responded that he does. Ms. Moermond stated that Ms. Schweinler will be contacting
Mr. Cervantez to sign the modified conditions before it goes to the City Council.
The hearing was adjourned at 4:04 p.m.
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