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1 WHEREAS, the Legislative Aearing Officer recommended that the license application (20056002585) for a Dance
2 or Rental Hall and Food Institutional Facility License by Hmong American Partnership, 1075 Arcade Street, be
3 approved with the following condirions:
a l. Pursuant to the pazking requirements of the City's Zoning ordinance, use of the rental hall for private parties and
5 events shall not occur at times when the business offices are open. This condition shall not apply to such events
6 that aze part of the programmed activities associated with the Hmong American Partnership,
� 2. The operating hours for the rental hall activities shall be confined to the following schedule: 5:00 p.m. — 9:45
8 p.m. on Monday thru Thursday, 5:00 p.m. —12:00 midnight on Fridays, 8:00 a.m. —12:00 midnight on Saturday
9 and 8:00 am. — 9:45 pm. on Sundays.
10 3. The (6) six foot wood obscuring fence and landscaping for the parking lot shall be maintained in good condition,
11 to screen headlight glaze onto adjacent properties and to provide visual relief of the pazking lot.
12 4. The licensee shall be responsible for insuring that one or more security persons aze on duty at all functions
13 taking place at the hall. Security shall remain until all patrons, guests and members of the public have left the
la area, and shall insure that no one leaving the hall loiters around or near the building.
� 5 a. If an event is anticipated to involve 100 or more people, the Hmong American Partnership will notify the
16 Saint Paul Police Department East Team at least two weeks in advance of such rental hall events and shall
17 cooperate with Police Department recommendations for providing appropriate number of security personnel
18 and for implementing any other security measure they deem necessary for crowd control.
19 b. If an event is anticipated to involve fewer than 100 people, the Hmong American Partnership will notify the
2o Saint Paul Police Department East Team within 48 hours of the scheduled event.
21 5. When events aze taking place, hall doors need to stay closed for noise control.
z2 6. The pazking lot and building grounds will be maintained at all times, in accordance with minimum properiy
23 maintenance standards in the Saint Paul Legislative Code.
24 7. The Among American Partnership will be properly maintained to minunize the effect of light pollution on
zs neighboring residential properties; and
26 WIIEREAS, the Councilmember representing this area of the City reviewed the legislative hearing record and
27 determined the presence of alcoholic beverages at events in the Hmong American Partnership facility has the
28 potential to exacerbate existing nuisance problems in the neighborhood; now therefore, be it
29 RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul City Council approves the issuance of the Dance or Rental Hall and Food
3o Institutional Facility License by Hmong American Partnership at 1075 Arcade Street with the seven aforementioned
31 conditions and the addition of the following condition:
3z 8. Alcoholic beverages will not be served at the rental hall for private parties and events covered by this license.
33 This condition may be reviewed for removal from the license on or after October 26, 2006, upon request of the
3a Hmong American Partnership.
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Action Requested:
Approving the issuance of the Dance or Rental Hall and Food Institutional Facility License by Hmong Amexican Parinership, 1075
Arcade Street, with eight condirions.
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MII�IUTES OF THE LEGISLATIVE HEARING
HMONG AMERICAN PARTNERSHIP —1075 Arcade Street
Thursday, September 15, 2005
Room 330 Courthouse, 15 Kellogg Boulevazd West
Mazcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 139 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Larry Zangs, License, Inspections, Environmental Protection (LIE)
The following appeazed: William Yang, owner, Gerald Pazks.
Marcia Moermond explained that she is conducting a Legislative Hearing today for the Hmong
American Partnership which is a Rental/Dance Hall and Rental Food Operation. The possible
outcomes of the hearing are one of the following: 1) grant the license without conditions, 2)
grant with conditions which the applicant agrees to, 3) tlus matter be refened to an
Adminisirative Law Judge. The ALJ process is if the applicant is not agreeable to some
conditions that Ms. Moermond feels are necessazy to make this a workable proposition. Or, if
there is no way that this license is going to work in this situation. Denial is not one of the
options. An Administrative Law Judge would hold a heazing and then develop recommendations
for the City Council to consider. The City Council can accept or reject the recommendations of
the ALJ. The ALJ process can take three to six months, which is significant.
Larry Zangs reported that the Hmong American Partriership has applied for a Rental Hall and
Food Institutional Facility. LIEP is recommending the following conditions on the license.
1. Pursuant to the City's zoning parking requirement, use of the rental hall for private parties
and events shall not occur at times when the business offices aze open. This condition shall
not apply to events that are part of the programined activities associated with the Hmong
American Partnership.
2. The hall sha11 close and no activity will occur after 12:00 midnight on Friday and Saturday
nights and 10:00 p.m. on Sunday nights and week nights, Monday through Thursdays.
3. The (6) six foot wood obscuring fence and landscaping proposed for the parking lot shall
be maintained in good condition to screen headlight glare onto adjacent properties and to
provide visual relief of the parking lot.
4. Hmong-American Partnership shall notify the Eastern District of the Saint Paul Police
Department at least 48 hours in advance of all rental ha11 events and shall cooperate with
any resulting Pofice Deparlment recommendations such as providing information about the
event to neighbors, implementing all advised security and traffic controls, etc.
5. A miniinum of one security officer shall be at all events where alcohol may be served and
more than 50 people are present. Security is to cover indoor and outdoor areas.
Mr. Zangs added that these conditions aze paraphrasing what the district council had asked.
William Yang appeared and stated Hmong American Partnership is a nonprofit organization and
has been existing for 15 yeazs. There are offices in Saint Paui and Minneapolis. They are here
to talk about 1075 Arcade Street. The organization warks in different areas: youth and family,
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jobs and training, employment, health, educarion. What will happen in the multi-purpose room.
They hope to rent it out for gatherings, receprions, weddings, graduation ceremonies. Those are
most likely the type of activities that will happen in the committee rooms. Most likely, these
events will take place on Saturday or Sunday. It could go into the evenings, but most of the time
it will probably happen on the weekends, noon to late afternoon activities.
Ms. Moermond asked about food and alcohol being served. There are prepazation facilities on
site. With this license, it is her understanding that Mr. Yang could prepare food in lus own home
and bring it there. He could bring wine. It is the actual sale of the wine that is forbidden. Mr.
Zangs responded yes. A family could bring their own food, but it will be at the discretion of the
owner how he wants to handle that. The institution of food is the license they are granting. They
will have to be responsible for the way the food is maintained.
Ms. Moermond stated the business would be subject to inspection. Mr. Yang responded yes.
The guest could bring food into the facility. In regazds to the alcohol, it can be brought in for the
guests by the host of the pariy. It is a private party. There is no license required. Alcohol
cannot be sold. There can be no cash baz.
Ms. Moermond stated she received the following letters in opposition. Peggy Telin, 835
Magnolia Avenue East; Bonnie and Michael Maggi, 832 Magnolia Avenue East; Lawrence
Johns, 799 Magnolia Avenue East; Tanika Nolan; Linda Loeffler; Rick and Pat Brengman and
family, 836 Magnolia Avenue; an anonymous letter. The following letters were received in
support of the license application: East Side Neighborhood Development Company, 925 Payne
Avenue; District 5 Planning Council, 1014 Payne Avenue.
(Ms. Moermond heazd from people in opposirion first.)
Tanika Nolan, 1045 Arcade Street, appeared and submitted a packet of information. She read
from a letter she wrote and submitted her letter. She said the community was mislead by the
District 5 Planning Council and was never told of the Hmong American Partnership's intent to
haue a dance rental hall. The information supplied was that the facility was to be an office
building and an educational resource center. Over 75 people attended an informational meeting
on 8-22-OS and Mr. Yang assured the community that no aicohol would be allowed on the
premises. Yet, 24 hours later he was asking District 5 that people renting the hall be allowed to
apply for permits to have alcohol on the site. There aze 2 dance rental halls within 2 blocks of
this site. Parking is terrible around 1075 Arcade and Hmong American Partnership will already
be competing with other businesses in the azea with hours that range from 6 a.m. to 2 a.m.
nightly. This is in addition to a multitude of residents. Many homes on Arcade are rental or
multi-generational and house more than one vehicle. Liquor and festivities aze going to lead to a
higher level of existing problems on Arcade. Crime is already a problem. Aicohol consumption
leads to increased loitering, unsupervised youth, loud music, slauuning car doors, and public
nuisances. Ms. Nolan has called in prostitufion and drug trafficking out of the 1075 parking lot
during the week of 9-7-05. There were 66 offenses from 1-5-01 to 7-26-OS at 1075 Arcade,
which included drugs sexual assaults, and thefts. In summary, the azea does not need another
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rentaUdance hall, especially where liquor would be allowed on the premises. Also, she has a list
of 22 conditions, which she provided to Ms. Moermond.
Irving Nasby, 1129 Arcade Street, appeazed and stated he represents the Arcade Phalen
American Legion Club. His club represents and helps to support various organizations. (Mr.
Nasby menfioned the various organizations his club helps support.) The legion cannot support
themselves through their membership and club baz. They depend on what they can get from
rental. By the City allowing another license for another support group, he wonders where his
club will continue to get the funds for the programs they support on the East Side. His club
opposes another rental unit. His club sells alcohol and the neighborhood does not need anymore.
He concurs with Ms. Nolan.
Linda Loeffler, 824 Cook Avenue East, appeared and stated she is opposed to this license
application. They do not need another dance/rental hall especially with alcohol on the premises.
There aze already two rental halls on Arcade. Three rental facilities in a four block area is too
much. They can be called private clubs, but they still have halls to rent. The new TN zoning
was trying to avoid this: too many of the same type of businesses along Arcade Street. This
business will pull business away from the well established halis in the area already. This new
business will pull in more traffic, more noise, crime, loitering, depreciation of property values in
the area. Ms. Loeffler's house is about 75 feet from where they want to open this hall. This area
has more rental property than any azea in Saint Paul with owners who are not keeping their
properties in good shape. The residents and businesses of this area were not notified of the
intention of Hmong American Partnership of having anything other than office space. Also, NIr.
Yang said on tape that no alcohol wouid be allowed. The next night, Mr. Yang said alcohol
would be brought into the hall. Mr. Yang personally told Ms. Loeffler on 8-22-OS that HAP
needs this license to make their mortgage payment. They were able to purchase the property for
$1, the STAR Program gave them $300,000 and another $300,000 as a loan. They are nonprofit
and have not paid property taxes since 2002. They only pay assessments far streets and alley
maintenance of about $400 a year. Ms. Loeffler asked why should the community suffer the
problem they will create just so that IIAP can make their mortgage payments. There are halls in
the azea that the Hmong can cater their food in. There is no need nor want for another rental hall
on Arcade 5treet. The neighbors k�ave been uninformed, misinformed, and lied to.
Larry Johns, 799 Magnolia Avenue East, appeared and stated he concurs with everyone that has
previously testified. There aze four bars and two halls in the neighborhood already. There is a
new driveway on Magnolia and they have lost two pazking spaces plus there is a no parking area
neaz a light. There is no off site parking other than 80 spots. He is a member of another legion.
There is an echo chamber coming through the building. The exits for the hall are in the pazking
lot. Noise is going to be a major problem there. There is no off street pazking. Three of the bazs
have no parking.
Cluistopher Arendt, 781 Cook Avenue East, appeared and stated he is in agreement with what is
being proposed here. This license should be denied. The alleyway that comes off the building
has had a lot of issues with tr�c. Because they T'd the alley off, traffic wili go one direction.
Parking is an issue. He is permanently disabled and he is thinking about getting a handicap
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sticker. They aze talking about making this a one way alley. He is not going to shovel the alley
out. One vehicle hit the corner of the garage.
Bonnie Maggie, 832 Magnolia Avenue East, appeazed and stated she is against having this a
rentaUdance hall. Here is enough riff raff going on already. This is not their neighborhood and
they do not care. Everyday they aze picking up trash.
Ms. Moermond asked who is "they." Ms. Maggi responded whoever walks down the street
because District 5 will not put trash bins on Arcade or anywhere. The noise and loitering is
homble and they do not need anymore. The neighbors were promised a community/resource
center, no to dance/rental hall.
Nathan Michaelson, 746 Magnolia Avenue East, appeared and stated HAP may have some great
intentions, but they are not the ones suffering from this. The neighbors will have to deal with
these problems everyday.
Mike Maggi, 832 Magnolia Avenue East, appeazed and stated he does not like being lied to. He
was the one that asked and he was told there would be no alcohol. That is not a good start. They
do not haue anywhere to park now because of the bar across the street. As for the alcohol and
the dance hail, he says no.
Charles Lindahl, 785 Magnolia Avenue East, appeared and stated he agrees with Tanika Nolan,
Linda, and Larry Johnson. They aze protecting their neighborhood so they have a nice place to
come home after a day at work.
(No one else wanted to speak in opposition. Ms. Moermond now heazd from people in support
ofthe license application.)
Ms. Moermond stated the concept of business competition came up in another hearing. Off sale
liquar licenses can only be so many feet apart because of the nuisance factor, but there is no
distance requirement for dance/rental hall. As for competition, the City cannot take that into
consideration in review of the license, and she has not seen anything in the code that addresses
that. Mr. Zangs responded that is correct.
Ms. Moermond asked about the alley vacafion. Mr. Zangs responded that prior to this
development, the alley ran east-west, exiting onto Arcade. Users of the a11ey have been granted
an easement to use Hmong American Partnership's parking lot. The easement is only in one
direction: north. In reality, it will probably work in either direction. There is through access in
the parking lot.
Ms. Moermond asked about light pollution. One of the conditions LIEP added was a six foot
fence. Mr. Zangs responded the obscuring fence is a part of the zoning code. LEIP is requiring a
six foot wood fence. The actual code is only 4%z feet when a pazking lot is adjacent to a
residential properiy. The parking lot will have downcast lighting so the glaze is not directly out.
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The light is shieided and directed down. They aze the same ambient lighting as street lighting. It
will illwninate the azea in the evenings, even when the building is closed.
Ms. Moermond stated the letters and testimony talk about nuisance crimes: public druukenness,
noise, swearing. There aze tl�ree bazs in the vicinity. Ms. Moermond asked have those been
azound for a while. Mr. Zangs responded yes, going back 40 years.
Ms. Moermond asked is it incumbent on those businesses to pick up bottles associated with their
businesses. Mr. Zangs responded he is not aware if they have that as a condition.
Mr. Nasby stated the legion's pazking lot is picked up everyday. He wonders if there is any
bearing on the decision that the legion donates a11 of their profits to organizations and theu hall
can be used for nothing. Ms. Moermond responded that she has never seen a situation that the
City Council does not take into account the comments of a good community member. However,
there is nothing that says a nonprofit or a profit business will be treated differently.
Eric Mitchell, 772 Wheelock Parkway East, President of District 5 Planning Council, appeared
and stated he is here to speak in favar of the rental hall appiication with conditions. He
understands the anger in the community. District 5 was informed of the rental hall application at
the same time as the neighborhood, which was late July. They had one meeting to heaz from the
community. That was flyered by about 400 households. He does not see how the planning
council could haue worked closer with the community. He personally went to LIEP to obtain
conditions for other rental ha11s in the City. They ha�e had three meefings and the neighbors
were there each time. This is the fourth meeting on this and he has seen some people four times.
They have suggested condirions that would address some of the concerns the neighbors on
parking, noise, petty crime, security, etc. They are good conditions. They are confident that
with these conditions, I-IAP wili be a good neighbor.
Ms. Moermond stated that, in this case, there aze a few things going on — public money in play,
public process may be associated with that, a small area plan happened, rezoning, alley vacation,
site plan review—and all of these in one way or another require public notification. People may
not know years in advance. There are different requirements about who will be told what. She
asked are there different notifications for different actions. Mr. Zangs responded yes. The
notification for the rental hail comes at the application for the license. The other items all were
addressed: land use issues through zoning, site issues through site plan review process, alley
vacation for what it is required to do.
Ms. Moermond stated she can only deal with the license in front of her right now. The
notification with respect to this use happened as it should have happened.
Mr. Mitchell stated this is normal procedure: 45 days ago. Ms. Moermond responded that is
relatively a long period of fime. It will be 30 to 45 days if community notificarion is required.
tlnne Briseno, Director of Commercial Development of East Site Neighborhood Development
Corporarion (ESNDC), 925 Payne Avenue, appeared and stated the quality of life crimes are
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very real. A short term solution is to have a beat officer. It has been privately funded fixuds to
have a beat officer wa.lkiug Payne and Arcade. The long term solutions have to be worked out
with crime and safety efforts with organizations and residents. ESNDC has been supported of
the efforts with Hmong American Partnership to purchase this properiy. It was an eyesore. The
building before that was failing apart. Hmong American Partnezship has transformed this into a
new, multi-service building. The District 5 meeting on August 22 was an opportunity to heaz
from a11 sides to identify and address specific issues. When these things aze identified, a person
can find solutions to deal with them.
Leslie McMurray, 1014 Payne Avenue, Executive Director and Organizer of the District 5
Planning Council, appeazed and stated that for the development project over time, there were
key intersections in which the community is nofified. They have been reseazcYung and talking
about changes in the ordinance and how the 60 day rule unpacts their abilities to engage
neighbors. To the letter of the notice, people have been nofified properly. It is very cleaz that
people are surprised and upset that there is a rental hall in the neighborhood. District 5 notified
400 families and had 60 plus in attendance. Almost without exception, they indicated opposition
to the rental hall license. Ms. McMunay includes those viewpoints to Ms. Moermond's office as
well as the District 5 Board. Ms. Moermond responded she received a transcript of the
community meeting.
Ms. McMurray went on to say she has a tape available for the meeting. They are prepazed to
work closely with the neighborhood to abate those nuisances. When the annual renewals come
up for bazs, they need to look at them closely. They intend to fu11y wark with neighbors. Ms.
Murray is the only staff and neighbors comprise the leadership of the organization.
Diana Rydryck, 848 Geranium Avenue, appeared and stated she is in support of the license. She
lives within walking distance of one of the bars. She has not experienced problems related to
that. The answer to any nuisance problems is to deal with them when they arise instead of pre-
empfively denying a license based on what may or may not happen in the future.
I3ancy 3. Meyer, English language instructor with Hmong American Partnership, appeared and
stated she has worked there for two years and sees a commihnent to the community. It will be a
valuable asset to the entire community, and not just the Hmong community. She is surprised that
there is an impression that it is going to be some sort of a nightclub or rowdy piace where people
will be drivking or destroying property. Just this week, they were talking about moving a whole
English class to HAP. They are looking forward to using it as an educational resource facility.
The primary function of the building is employment services, health, family, education. She
does not see the dance hall as being an issue. Family gatherings seem to be the impetus for
building the reception hall. From her work in the Hmong community, there is high level of
integrity and cominitment. She cannot imagine this becoming a place to be ashamed of.
(No one eise wanted to be heard.)
Ms. Moermond sated she heazd complaints about the bars located in this area. Janeen Rosas
(LIEP) and Mr. Zangs are willing to take specific complaints here today and annually, licenses
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aze reviewed. Complaints aze looked at before licenses are reviewed. The kinds of complaints
she is hearing are not just about HAP. The way to get conditions on other licenses is to establish
a pattern of complaints. Ms. McMurray added that District 5 has just done that with five
differentland uses.
Ms. Rosas stated that if there aze noise issues at night, the police should be called.
Ms. Moermond stated there were some conditions proposed by LIEP.
Condifion 1- Mr. Zangs stated the rental hall needs 68 pazking spaces and the office space
needs 35 parking spaces. With 80 spaces, HAP can either do the rental hall stuff or office, but
not both together. Ms. Moermond asked does he understand that and it is an acceptable
condition. Mr. Yang responded yes.
Condition 2- Ms. Moermond stated the 12:00 is already on the rental license.
Condition 3- Ms. Moermond stated she would like a 6'/z feet wood fence, which is the
maYimum allowable by City code. Mr. Yang responded the posts aze already going up, to which
Ms. Moermond responded she will not push it if it is going up now. Gerald Pazks added that
they were trying to be a good neighbor and making it 6 feet. They lrnew the code called for it to
be 4'/z feet.
Ms. Moermond asked when the facility will open. Mr. Yang responded the building is to be
completed by September 21 or 22. The fence will be done prior to that.
Condifion 4- Ms. Moermond stated this is also a condition holder upon a rental or dance hall
license. She would chazacterize this as more of a rental hall than a dance hall. District
commander might be difficult to schedule staff if the notification comes only 48 hours in
advance of an event, as required by the licensing ordinance. She asked would they be wi lling to
roll it back. Mr. Yang responded they will probably schedule at least a week in advance.
Ms. Moermond asked could they live with ten days. Mr. Yang responded it is hard for them to
know. Mr. Pazks responded they do not haue a11 the details of when the ha11 will be booked.
Ms. Moermond stated that when they anticipate that there will be 100 people coming to an event,
they would lrnow 10 days in advance. She asked about 48 hours in advance for all events, but 10
days notice for events of 100 people or more. Mr. Zangs added that the police are not here. He
could contact the police deparhnent and asked how many days work far them. The business
should figure out some sort of communication. She would like to add a minimum
expectation. Ten days may be a minimum if the vent involves 100 ar moxe people. Otherwise,
48 hours. Perhaps it will be a once a month communication, once a week, etc. Mr. Yang
responded this should not be a problem.
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Condifion 5- Ms. Moermond asked about additionai security for lazger events. One security
person will not be sufficient for 150 people Mr. Yang responded he will consult with the Saint
Paul Police as to what wili be a reasonable amount of security that will be there.
Ms. Moermond stated she will leave this open ended in the meeting. They will go with the
East Team recommendation and go with that as the condition. It sounds like Mr. Yang is
agreeable
(At this point, Ms. Moermond went over the conditions submitted by "Tanika Nolan and
Community.")
Condition 1, No Alcohol or weapons on the premises at any time. - Is a weapons notice posted on
the doors, Ms. Moermond asked. Mr. Yang responded it will be posted.
Condition 3, Hours of operation not to be earlier or Zater than Monday-Thursday, 8am-8pm;
Friday-Saturday, 8am-IOpm, Sunday, 8am-6pm - Ms. Moermond asked the hours of operation.
Mr. Yang stated he cannot say it will not happen in the evenings. Hmong American Partnership
uses the building during the daytime. They will not rent it out during business hours because
they are using it. Business hours aze 8:30 to 5:00. Staff arrives at 6:30 and there are services
until 8:00 p.m.
As for the rental hall, said Ms. Moermond, they will not rent the hall before 5:00, Monday
through Friday. If the business wants to open their offices at 6:QQ a.m. they are allowed to do
that. With respect to closing time, 10:00 p.m. is the noise ordinance, and she is comfortable with
10:00 p.m. during the week. She asked would he like to say 930 so people are out o£the
parking lot at 10:00 or is that too much time pressure for meetings. Mr. Yang responded it is too
much time pressure. They have evening meetings that go past 9:00. That currently happens in
other locations.
Ms. Moermond will say events ending at 9:45 Sunday through Thursday. Friday and
Saturday at midnight seems reasonable. Ms. Moermond stated Saturday and Sunday not
earlier than 8:00 a.m.
Condition 4, Off duty police off cer on premises for all rental events. Two off dury police officers
on premises for all events that more than 50 people attend, one inside the hall, and one
monitoring outside the building and parking lot. - Ms. Moermond stated the police do not like
them to specify the number. They discussed the number of officers eazlier.
Condition S, No Zoitering in the parking Zot outside of the building. - Mr. Yang stated he wants to
keep the property clean. Ms. Moermond responded she will not add that as a condition.
(Someone from the audience made a remark about alcohoi.) Mr. Yang responded he meant he
does not serve alcohol or bring it into the building. However, he did not clarify that they will not
prevent others from bring alcohol into the building.
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Condition 6, Hall may not be rented to any venue where someone is going to hire a d.j. or band
and charge a cover charge. FAMILYEVENTS ONLY. - Ms. Moermond stated they would need
another license if that is what they are trying to do.
Condition 7, Noise ControL People must Zeave the building quickly and quietly. Off duty police
officer to over see this. - Ms. Moermond said that she would assume the security or police officer
would oversee this.
Condition 9, 48 hours notifzcation to police department before every event. - It has been
expanded, said Ms. Moermond.
Condition I0, Privacy Fence on west side of building to block headZights. - This has been added,
said Ms. Moermond.
Corcdition 11, Lower the lights in the parking lot so they are not so bright for residents. - There
are some companies that produce shields, said Ms. Moermond. Mr. Zangs stated he will look to
see what kind of lighting there is, and he will talk to Tom Beach (LIEP) about that. Ms.
Moermond stated the owner will provide screening on the light to minimize them. It
shouldn't be too expensive. If it is expensive, they can haue another discussion about it.
Condition 12, Proper plowing and snow removal fi•om parking lot and alleyway west of building.
- Mr. Zangs stated that the aliey is a public alley, and the city does not plow it. He does not
know if they can require the applicant to plow a public alley. Mr. Yang stated he will plow the
pazking lot from their trash enclosure to the "do not enter" sign. He will add a"do not enter"
sign so that people will not travel west in the alley.
Condition 14, No blocking of alley. - This is already not okay, said Ms. Moermond.
Condition I5, All traffic entering and leaving the parking lot must use Arcade Street. Not
Magnolia, Cook, or through the alleyway. Legal city signs need to be posted. - Mr. Yang stated
that was the earlier conversation with the City. They would post a"do not enter" sign on the
alley. Mr. Yang responded it is a private sign at Hmong American Partnership's expense, but it
is intended to prevent folks from the parking lot passing through the alley. There is no restriction
once they go on Cook. The likely pass would go to Magnolia. There is less incentive to
circulate. It is not always advisable to restrict traffic to one direcfion.
Ms. McMurray stated that Public Works may want to do a traf£c study.
Condition 16, Must clean and maintain parking lot and around building at all times. - Ms.
Moermond asked will they have a waste receptacle by the building in the parking lot. Mr. Yang
responded they have a plan to do that already. Ms. Moermond responded that she would like to
do that as a condition then.
It sounds like Ms. Rosas has talked about doing a study here.
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Condition 19, 3 violations in one year of hall conditions will result in Zoss of a Zicense. - Ms.
Moermond stated there is a procedure of how they lose their license.
Condition 2Q 6 or more police responses for crime, fighting, underage drinking, drugs, or
aizything else unlawful on the premises per year will results in Zoss of Zicense. - Ms. Moermond
stated she cannot do that. If there is that level of crime, then they can get a bill for excessive
consumption.
Condition 21, Residential pat permits. All homes within 300 feet of the hall receive 2
parking permits per family. Residential parking ONLYsigns need to be posted on all side
streets. - They cannot do that as a condition on the license. There is a process for that, but that is
separate and not connected to this license.
Condition 22, When events are taking place, hall doors need to stay closed for noise control. -
Ms. Moermond asked would he be willing to keep the doars closed when noise is being
generated. This is a new building and should have proper air conditioning. Mr. Yang responded
that won't be a problem.
Ms. Moermond stated she will draft the conditions. They do not know the recommended levels
for police or security officers. She hopes this addresses a lot of concerns. The big one left is the
issue of alcohol. She has not seen anything that says he should not have it. She hears about
places that have it. These are family events and not sales. This is not even a bona fide club. She
will go ahead and recommend they be allowed to do this.
The hearing was adjourned at 3:46 p.m.
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