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WHEREAS, the Legislative Hearing Officer recommended that the license application (2004000525 for Second
Hand Dealer-Motor Vehicle License by Mau Dong, Sole Proprietor, doing business as Como A nue Auto Sales,
509 Como Avenue, be approved with the following conditions:
1. The number of vehicles for sale displayed outdoors may not exceed 28 with an ad 'tional4 spaces for
customers and employees as shown on the approved site plan on file in LIEP.
2. All customer and employee vehicles must be pazked in the area designated the LIEP approved site plan.
Employee vehicles may not be parked or stored in the alley.
3. There shall be no exterior storage of vehicle parts, tires, oil, or any o er similar materials associated with
the business. Trash will be stored in a covered dumpster. Stora of vehicle fluids, batteries, etc. shall be in
accordance with the Ramsay County Hazardous Waste regulaf ns.
4. At no time shall vehicles be parked in the driveway or in public right-of-way. Vehicles awaiting repair
may not be parked or stared in the alley.
5. Cazs for sale may not be parked on the street or publi ight-of-way.
6. The storage of vehicles for the purpose of salvagin parts is expressly forbidden. All vehicles parked
outdoors must appear to be completely assembl with no major body parts missing. Vehicle salvage is not
parmitted.
7. General auto repair is not permitted.
8. Auto body repair and auto body spray p' ting is not perxnitted.
9. Customer vehicles may not be parke onger than 10 days on the premises. It shall be the responsibility of
the licensee to ensure that any veh' e not claimed by its owner is removed from the lot as permitted by law.
10. Provide maneuvering space on t e property to allow vehicles entering and exiting the site to proceed
forward. Backing from the s et or onto the street is prohibited.
11. Licensee must comply wi ll federal, state, and local laws.
12. All license conditions s 1 be reviewed in 6 months.
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Action Requested:
Approving applica6on with condirions, per the Legislarive Hearing Officer, for Second Hand Dealer-Motor Vehicle License by Mau
Dong, Sole Proprietor, doing business as Como Avenue Auto Sales, 509 Como Avenue.
Recommendations: Approve.(A) or Reject (R): Personal Service Contracts Must Answer the Following Questions:
Planning Commission 1. Has this person�rm ever worked urWer a contract For this department?
CIB Committee Yes No
Civil Service Commission 2. Has this personffirm ever been a city employee?
Yes No
3. Does this person/firm possess a skill not normally possessed by any
. current city employee? �
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NIII�]iJ"I'ES OF TFTE LEGISLATIVE HEARING
COMO AVENiJE AUTO SALES — 509 Como Avenue
Thursday, February 10, 2005
Room 330 City HalUCourthouse
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 11:04 a.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Jeff Hawkins, License, Inspections, Environmental Protection (LIEP);
Kristine Schweinier, LIEP
Mau Dong, owner, 4385 Rosebriaz Avenue, Inver Grove Heights, appeazed.
Marcia Moermond explained that that is a Class N License, which means the neighborhood was
notified that this was a proposed business for this location. The neighbors wrote letters with
concerns or objections about the issuance of this license. At this hearing, Ms. Moermond will
hear from the applicant about the business plans. Then, she will heaz from people who have
come to speak in favor or opposition to the application. Then, she will invite the applicant to the
table again. There aze three possible outcomes from this hearing that she will recommend to the
City Council: 1) recommend that the license be issued without conditions 2) recommend that the
license be issued with conditions, 3) refer this license application to an Administrative Law
Judge. There would be a public hearing at that level, it would come back to the City Council for
another public heazing. The Council would accept or reject the findings of the Administrative
Law Judge. This process can take four to six months with attorney fees. It is a lot of time and
money. It is better for all involved to mediate concems at this level.
Kristine Schweinler appeazed and reported this is a Second Hand Dealer-Motor Vehicle license
for 509 Como Avenue. This application is being approved by LIEP, which includes zoning and
licensing. Condition 1 has been modified: the nuxnber of vehicles caxuiot exceed 28 plus 4 for
customer/employee parking. The additional numbers have been added and will have to be
signed.
Jeff Hawkins appeared and reported that the applicant turned in a site plan and Tom Beach
(LIEP) revised it. (Mr. Hawkins submitted copies of this site plan.)
Mau Dong stated he is applying for a second hand dealer license with no mechanical work or auto
repair. There is plenty of room for vehicles. He is applying for a few cars. It will not be a big
dealership. It is a one man show. In answer to several questions, Mr. Dong responded that he
worked at North Suburban as a mechanic for 15 years. He is looking for short term and not long
term. He is leasing the property far one year. It is renewable.
Dick Lashomb, owner of North Suburban Auto Sales, appeared and stated Mr. Dong and he have
become friends over the years. North Suburban has been there for 20 yeazs and done well.
The following appeared: David Junglen and Pat Snyder, owners of 509 Como Avenue. They
said they are here to support Mr. Dong, who came to them looking for a car lot. They believe this
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is a good location. The site cannot be used for anything else. It is polluted: there used to be a
gas station there. He thought it would be a good place for a car lot and aze paying about $16,000
a yeaz in taYes for just the pazking lot. They are trying to offset that amount. In answer to several
quesrions, Mr. Junglen responded the business was acquired in November 2003. They have been
parking service vehicles there, but there is a lot of development in the area. He is interested in
doing something down the road on that properiy. A trailer was stored and sold there for 50 years.
Before that, they did trailer sales and had a gas station there.
(Monte Hilleman disseminated paperwork.)
Monte Hilleman, 843 Rice Street, Project Director for Great Northern Corridor, appeazed and
stated they aze a collaborative of roughly 36 different organizations including pubiic agencies,
nonpmfit arganizations, district plac�ning councils, local businesses, and elected officials. From
their vision written in 1997, a shortened version was adopted as a small area plan. It was put
together by the community groups in partnership with residences, businesses, public agencies.
On the second page, there is a map which depicts the area where this site is located. Two
buildings are completed and one will be completed. About $21 Million of new building
investment has been put in with a$14 Million cost of environmental cleanup. This is the catalyst
for the neighborhood revitalization. There is a section on the third page about Como Avenue.
Their work plan is to develop a strategy to improve Como Avenue. A low intensity land use with
little or no landscaping and little or no job creation is not consistent with the plans for this site.
Mr. Hilleman has met the owners of the properiy. The Crreat Northern Conidor has secured
contamination cleanup funds in the past, and they could repair the site for redevelopment. They
also understand their need to see some revenue off that properry. There is a 15,000 square foot
minunum lot size requirement. The parcel itself is 35,000 square feet. The lot itself is not
15,000 square feet. It may meet the minimum lot size requirement. The actual business
operation does not meet the intent of the ordinance. The Crreat Northern Comdor has some
interest in the site. There is a long 50 year history of auto related uses being a perennial problem:
trailers parked on sidewalk, illegal auto use across the street. There is concern that if this license
is granted as is without a review period, the situation could get out of hand and cause problems
far the multi-million dollar revitalization efforts in the neighborhood. Their recommendation
would be an annual review of the license as Como Avenue improves and the business owner's
plans develop.
Ms. Schweinler stated that all the licenses are annually reviewed for the conditions every year.
Ms. Moermond stated the code is set up so that notification is required for the initial issuance of
the license, but not for its renewal. She asked can conditions be added at that point. Ms.
Schweinler responded conditions can be reviewed at any time if there are complaints lodged or a
change in the business. Mr. Hawkins added that conditions can be added in the ALJ process
without the applicant's permission.
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Mr. Hilleman stated there has been enough concem that they would appreciate this license
application moved to Council for full discussion regazding the effect of this land use for the bike
lanes, reconshuction, and revitalization changes in the neighborhood.
Kerry Antrim, District 6 Plamiiug Council, 213 Front Street, appeared and stated District 6 voted
to not recommend the license due to the surplus of auto related businesses in the district. The
approval of this would discourage the District 6 Pluining Council's goals in the large azea plan,
which is to diversify the businesses. She got information from Councilmember Helgen's Office
concerning the number of auto related licenses in District 6. Out of 83 auto related licenses in the
district, 44 of them have conditions attached. There are 20 second hand dealers in District 6
Plamiiug Council. There aze nine salvage yazds and four new car lots. In District 5, there were
28 total complaints for auto related businesses. There aze a number of zoning complaints
concerning auto related businesses. The only district higher than theirs is District 7. Far those
reasons and for trying to be true to the lazge azea plan, the Great Northem Corridor vision, the
vision of the residents, and the makeover, it is requested that they would do a six month review of
the business.
Ms. Moermond stated that the six month or one year review condition has to be agreeable to the
applicant. At this level, they cannot force conditions on the applicant. The ALJ can force
conditions.
Ms. Moermond asked if the districYs large area plan and the Crreat Northern Corridor small area
plan have been adopted as appendices to the City's land use plan, and she asked were zoning
changes imbedded in those. Ms. Antrim responded that she read over the lazge area plan and she
did not see any actual changes.
Sai Thao, SPARC, 843 Rice Street, Economic Development Program Manager at SPARC,
appeazed and stated this business is not part of their vision to improve Como Avenue. They do a
lot of investrnent along Como-Front-Dale. They have put over $1 Million in the area. This is a
low density area. They would like to see housing or higher buildings instead of having auto
related businesses, especially used caz. He is willing to work with the owner to improve the site
in the future.
Mr. Hilleman stated that he would recommend that this matter be sent to an ALJ. It is inadequate
lot size. That is an issue that an ALJ would review. Ms. Moermond responded that she is not
hearing the owner is not amenable to conditions that have been brought up.
Mr. Hilleman stated the 15,000 square foot minimum lot size does not capture what is going on
with the parcel. He should file an appeal of the site plan determination filed by staff: Mr.
Hawkins added that the appeal would go to the Boazd of Zoning Appeals.
Mr. LaShomb asked what would District 6 or Great Northern want there. He is looking about
four years down the road. If they want to change it, then the business can be moved. There will
be a nice business. He has been in business for 20 yeazs.
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Mr. Hawkins stated they have not changed anything that is there. The fence was there. The lot
was there. It is on one parcel. The owner is subletting office space. There is parking on one azea
of the pazcel. This is a surface pazking azea. It can be changed in a month.
Mr. Dong stated they have plenry of spots. People complain about how the auto lot will look, but
they do not complain about the empty lot, which is used as a dump site.
Ms. Moermond asked about the license being reviewed in six months and then at a one yeaz
juncture. Ms. 5chweinler added that the license is reviewed annually. At anytime there is a
complaint, it will be reviewed then, too. There does not have to be six months put on the license.
Ms. Moermond responded she knows that is how the system warks. The neighborhood seems
like they need a higher level of insurance. Mr. Dong responded that he does not have a problem
with this.
Ms. Moermond stated there are lots of concerns azound physical appearance of the area. Little
things would make it a more attractive space. Lots of people hire landscape architects to put in
plantings to approve spaces. This is a legal business. The space is zoned to handle this kind of
business. In the fixture the zoning might change. It looks like the neighborhood is going that
way. Ms. Moermond asked is the owner willing to take steps to improve the physical appearance.
Mr. Hawkins added that he will give the owner landscaping information. There would be CDC
funds, also. Mr. Junglen stated in the future they plan to do a lot of things. It would defeat their
purpose at this time. Ms. Moermond responded there is assistance to do these kinds of things. It
is typical for organizations such as SPARC to do this kind of assistance. There are some
landscaping solutions that do not preclude the future investrnent options.
Mr. Junglen stated they have some vision for the property. The fence may be gone anyhow. Ms.
Moermond responded she is looking at an overall beautification of the site. Mr. Junglen
responded they have done things to the properry, such as pulling at the weeds.
Ms. Moermond stated this is a sensifive site right now. She senses they are agreeable to the six
month review. She would like to leave it at a good faith handshake to look at this issue with the
neighbors.
Ms. Moermond recommends approval of the license application with the following conditions,
which have been signed by the applicant:
1. The number of vehicles for sale displayed outdoars may not exceed 28 with an additional4
spaces for customers and employees as shown on the approved site plan on file in LIEP.
2. All customer and employee vehicles must be pazked in the area designated on the LIEP
approved site plan. Employee vehicles may not be parked or stored m the alley.
3. There sha11 be no e�terior storage of vehicle parts, tires, oil, or any other similar materials
associated with the business. Trash will be stored in a covered dumpster. Storage of vehicle
fluids, batteries, etc. sha11 be in accordance with the Ramsey County Hazardous Waste
regulations.
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4. At no time shall vehicles be parked in the driveway or in the public right-of-way. Vehicies
awaiting repair may not be pazked or stored in the a11ey.
5. Cars for sale may not be pazked on the street or public right-of-way.
6. The storage of vehicles for the purpose of salvaging parts is expressly forbidden. All vehicles
pazked outdoors must appeaz to be completely assembled with no major body parts missing.
Vehicle salvage is not permitted.
7. General auto repair is not perxnitted.
8. Auto body repair and auto body spray painting is not permitted.
9. Customer vehicles may not be pazked longer than 10 days on the premises. It shall be the
responsibility of the licensee to ensure that any vehicle not clauned by its owner is removed
from the lot as permitted by law.
10. Provide maneuvering space on the property to allow vehicles entering and exiting the site to
proceed forward. Backing from the street or onto the street is prohibited.
1 L Licensee must comply with a11 federal, state, and local laws.
12. All license conditions shall be reviewed in 6 months.
The hearing was adjoumed at 12:05 p.m.
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