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RESOLUTION
SAINT PAUL, MINMESOTA
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Green Sheet # 3025102
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WEiEREAS, the Legislative Hearing Officer recommends that license application (ID # 20030005015) for an
Entertainment A License by GKTC Corporation, Gloria Caselius, owner, doing business as Lucky Fo� Bar &
Grill, 731 F.andolph Avenue, be approved with the following condifions:
1. No trash or bottle dumping between 7:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.;
2, The existing four internal security cameras will be maintained. The outside camera on the reaz of the
building will be replaced. All cameras must be operational and tapes maintained for seven (7) days;
3. The square footage of windows on the building will not be decreased. Windows will not be obscured with
signs;and
4. Bar doors must remain closed when entertainment is being offered;
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby approves Chis license
application with the aforementioned conditions.
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Action Requested;
Approving ffie license application with condifions, per the Legislarive Hearing Officer, for an add-on Entertainment A License for
GKTC Corporafion, Gloria Caselius, Owner, DBA Lucky Foxac Bar & Grill, 731 Randolph Avenue.
Recommendations: Approve (A) or Reject (R): Personal Service Contracts Must Answer the Following Questions:
Planning Commission �. Has this personffirtn ever worked under a contract for this department?
CIB Committee Yes No
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Yes No
3. Does this person/firm possess a skill not nortnally possessed by any
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MINUTES OF THE LEGISLATIVE HEARING
LUCKY FOXX BAR AND GRILL - 731 Randolph Avenue
Thursday, January 27, 2005
Room 330 City HalUCourthouse
Mazcia Moermond, Legislarive Hearing Officer
The hearing was called to order at 10:15 a.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Krisrine Schweinler, License, Inspections, Environxnental Protection (I,IEP)
Mazcia Moermond explained that this license application requires neighborhood notification. Ms.
Moermond received letters objecring to the issuance of this entertainment ticense, which triggered
tlus hearing. There are three possible outcomes far this legisiative hearing: 1) license issued
without conditions, 2) license issued with conditions, 3) refened to an Administrative Law Judge
(AL,n. It will be referred to an ALJ if there is no way to reach accommodation and/or the applicant
did not agree to condi6ons that she felt were necessary for tkus to be a workable situation. The ALJ
process can involve four to siY months and typically the interested parties engage legal counsel;
therefore, it is more expensive and time consuming than hying to mediate things at this level.
Kristine Schweinler explained the GKTC Corporafion, doing business as the Lucky Foxx Bar and
Grill, has requested an additional license of Entertaimnent A, which allows taping of live music
without limitation to the number of performers. It does not allow for patrons dancing ar a dance
floor to be provided. All the requirements for environmental health, licensing, fire and zoning have
been met. LIEP's recommendation is for approval with conditions. (Note: these conditions are
listed on the last page.)
Ms. Moermond stated some of the letters speak of adult entertainment. Ms. Schweinler responded
that would be a Class C Entertainment License, which would require the neighbors within 300 feet
to be peritioned with at least 9�% okaying it. It is a substantially more expensive license. In
answer to another question, Ms. Schweinler responded that dancing by patrons would be a Class B
Entertainment License, which would require a perition, notification to the neighbors, and increased
parking requirements.
Gloria Caselius, owner, 731 Randolph Avenue, appeared and stated she plans to have Karoake once
or twice a week. She does not plan to have a live band, except for a special occasion.
Ms. Moermond stated there was a legislative hearing last year about the business. She wanted to
see how the license is doing with some of those condirions. She asked about trash or bottle
dumping. Ms. Schweinler responded she has not heard of any complaints.
Ms. Moermond asked about enclosing the dumpster area. Ms. Schweinler responded that has been
completed.
Ms. Moermond asked about security lighting and the screening fence. Ms. Caselius responded that
both have been done.
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Ms. Moermond asked has there been complaints about entertainment in absence of the license. Ms.
Schweinler responded that her of&ce has not received any complaints about this license.
Frank Peterson, 736 James Avenue, appeared and stated he is the block captain. He talked to the
neighbors who did not write letters. He did not write a letter either. The entire biock would like to
see the entertainment license delayed for a yeaz because the owner just opened the busmess after
remodeling. Ms. Caselius did a lot of work to the baz. Several times, the other owner Robert Fox
and Ms. Caselius have been in the pazking lot pushing, and the cops haue been called. Last
Saturday, a squad was called because the owners were pushing each other. The neighbors do not
want to see enterta.inment if the two owners cannot get along. Karoake will bring in more parking
problems. The new dumpsters have cut the parking lot down to three cars. Everyone is parked on
the City streets.
Betty Moran, West Seventh/Fort Road Federation, 974 Seventh Street West, appeared and stated
they would also like to see the license postponed for a year to see how things aze going with the
business. The federation has received numerous complaints about the back door. There are three
doors on that building. The back door has been open, and people can hear the music with the
jukebox. There is nothing but residential around there.
Linda Schmit, 450 Bay Street, appeared and stated she concurs with Ms. Moran and Mr. Peterson.
She has heard severallazge fights and now leams it is the owners. The back and side doors are
open quite a bit. Tn the summer and when they need more circulation, the doors are open. She
heazs the jukebox a lot. In the smmner, some of the pattons ride Harley Dauidson Motorcycles,
and they rev them up in the morning. It is a residential neighborhood with a bar stuck in the middle
of it. She would appreciate not having any more noise. She also would like the entertainment
license postponed. The parking also bothers her.
Ms. Moermond read letters she received into the record: i) Gerald and Mary Lauer, 449 Arbor
Street, wrote about the bar being in a residenfial azea, motorcyclists, and noise after hours; 2) John
and Sarah Binenbach, 757 Randolph Avenue, wrote about the bar being in a residential area,
additional noise, pazking problems, possibility of adult entertainment; 3) Kaarin Long, Bay Street,
wrote about traffic, parking, and the residenfial neighborhood; 4) Adolph Gisch, 760 Randolph
Avenue, wrote about the bar being in a residential area, traffic, parking, possibility of adult
entertaimnent; 5) Linda Schmit, Community Human Services Department, 160 Kellogg Boulevard
East, wrote a letter and also tesfified today; and 6) Ruth R. Rudolph, 737 Randolph Avenue, wrote
about the previous denial, noise pollution, parking, and the type of entertainment.
Ms. Caselius stated she is the only owner of the business. The incident that happened on Saturday
was with Robert Fox, who she previously dated. He came to the properiy, and she wanted him to
leave because he has caused trouble in the past. He shoved her. 7ohn Alexander saw the situation,
tried to stop Mr. Fox, and they pushed each other. There was no hitting.
Jotm Alexander, 4126 Coifas Avenue North, Minneapolis, appeared and stated that Ms. Caselius is
obtaining a restraining arder to keep Mr. Fox out of the bar, as he has been causing problems in the
bar and with Ms. Caselius. Mr. Alexander owns a few bars in Minneapolis and has advised Ms.
Caselius to work with the neighborhood group and the City Council in regazds to
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recommendations. At the first hearing, Ms. Caselius asked for 2:00 A.M. Closing and
Entertaii�ent licenses. Mr. Thune suggested postponing the entertainxnent to make sure the
requirements were met. Ms. Caselius has met every requirement and has been there to make sure
things are done correctly. She even went one step closer to put the cameras outside. She has been
there about sis days a week at all hours. His understanding was that the entertainment would come
up again if all the requirements aze met. What she did to the baz has improved the azea: the
kitchen is open, the traffic has not gained momentum. The same people aze going there. A few
new people aze coming from other areas but not at the same time. It is a rotation of automobiles.
Mr. Alexander has heard from the neighbors that they aze happy the baz is remodeled. He does not
see why the entertainment license should be postponed if Ms. Caselius has met all the
requirements. All she wants is kazoake to try to improve the slow nights. She put over $500,000
into the baz. She has been more than fair with the neighborhood and tries to wark with them.
As for the music, said Ms. Caselius, the doors aze closed most of the time. The patrons open them
because it gets warm, but Ms. Caselius closes the door when she catches it open. She is there seven
days and six nights. She takes one night a week off. She has only called cops once on the patrons
when there were some kids drinkiug quite a bit, they caused trouble, she stopped serving them, they
would not leaue, and she called the cops. The other incident was because of Mr. Fox, who has
caused her more problems in the bar than her patrons. She put a restraining order once on him,
cancelled it, but realized she should have kept it. She has an appointment tomorrow morning to get
another restraining order.
Ms. Moermond stated that the owner went through legislative hearings February of last yeaz. The
purchase of the business was hanging on whether she got the license. Ms. Caselius responded that
she closed on the purchase on April 16. She started the exterior about three months after. She
closed down the end of September for about six weeks and reopened November 4. As for the
motorcycles, there has not been any parking on the side as requested at the last legislafive hearing.
Whenever there has been a motorcycle parking on the boulevard, she has requested the owner to
remove it. They have done that. She has a camera for people to watch their motorcycles from the
back of the parking lot. The motorcyclists has been cooperative with her. As for loud noises,
motorcycles aze going to be loud. The business is on a busy street. She is busy on Friday, Saturday
and somefimes Sunday. She is talking about doing Karoake during the week. It will not pack them
in. The whole neighborhood will not be full of cazs.
Mr. Alexander stated that Ms. Caselius has cleaned up the baz. When she first bought it, there was
drug dealing going on. Those people are out. She has cleaned up the azea and stopped serving
people who have had too much to drink. A lot of the neighbors have commented that there is no
one out there making loud noises.
Ms. Moermond asked if there is any situarion or studies that would support the idea that the
addition of a Class A Entertainment License would increase the volume. Ms. Schweinler
responded the zoning requirements are set up because studies haue been done. The Class A
Entertainment piano bar, Karoake—has not shown to increase the number of patrons visiting an
establishment or parking. For the Class B Entertainment License, when adding the bands and
dance floor, there is an increase. Some bands have followers. The Ciass C Entertainment License
justifies the nature of the type of entertainment that would bring people from other azeas for the
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adult entertainment that is not offered in other azeas. To clarify, the entertainment license was not
denied. It was withdrawn. Ms. Moermond concurred: it was withdrawn as a part of a negotiated
agreement for the balance of the licenses.
Ms. Moermond took a recess to go through some of the records.
(A recess was taken from 10:46 to 10:56)
Ms. Moermond stated there was an issue about the 2 a.m. Closing License that seems to be
unresolved. Ms. Schweinler responded it is a state applicarion and they approve or deny it. There
are no fees to the City. Ms. Caselius added that she has the license.
Ms. Moermond stated she looked through a couple of things and the minutes. There was a
legislafive hearing and a meeting. It is ciear that is the way the 2 a.m. Closing License was talked
about. At that point, they were ready to go forward with the entertainment license out of the
legislarive hearing process. It was the concerns that the neighborhood brought directly to Ward 2's
Councilmember that led to the negotiation and the withdrawal of the entertainment license. There
was one condition that was discussed last February that was associated with an entertainment
license, which had something to do with keeping the doors closed when entertainment was being
provided. Her finding is that all the conditions that were required have been met. Ms. Moermond
has reviewed the police call history, and it is clear the police calls have a distinctly different
chazacter than what was experienced before Ms. Caselius assumed ownership and management of
this place. Ms. Moermond will recommend approval of the license with the conditions. She
strongly encouraged Ms. Caselius to keep the restraining order in place. Mr. Alexander stated that
Ms. Caselius would like to invite people to stop into the bar and have lunch. A lot of the people
have complained, but they have not gone into the bar.
Ms. Schweinler stated she would meet with the license hoider about remedies for some of the
problems.
Ms. Moermond recommends the Ciry Council grant the Entertainment License with the following
four conditions recommended by LIEP, which have already been signed by the applicant:
1. No trash or bottle dumping between 7:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.
2. The exisring four internal security cameras will be maintained. The outside camera on the
rear of the building wili be replaced. All cameras must be operational and tapes maintained
for seven (7) days.
3. The square footage of windows on the building will not be decreased. Windows will not be
obscured with signs.
4. Baz doors must remain closed when entertainment is being offered.
The hearing was adjourned at 11:00 a.m.
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