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249667 � ` 249�� ORIGINAL TO C�TY CL6RK � � CITY OF ST. PAUL FoENCa NO OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK CO L RESO TIO ENE L FORM PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONE RE34LVED, That upon and pursuant to the p�rtinent app�al, under the Zoning Code, by �Tohn J. Walsh, o�rner of the sum��ct r�al estate, loaated on the southw��t aorner of Ctl�v�land and St. C1a3.r Av�nues, �ituate in the City of Saint Pgul and de�cribed a$ z Lots 5 and 6, �locsk l, Louden Park Addition; that the provisions of �aid Zoning Code hereby are d�termined and waried aa and to th� ext�nt neeessary therefo� a�d �he parking requirement� for �sid premise� are+ hereby relaaed eo se to accommodate a selF-�erviQe car wa��, �rab�eet to th� condition that �aid appellant, and his su�cessors and as�igns, otherwise, shall make due compliance with all applicable provisions of munieipal ordinances, state statutes a.nd �ules and regulation� of publia auth0ri�3.�� having Qognizanae. c � 'o so�c� a#rra�. ' v w� t�t ��+�� : �+�c�►:� � �t:y � "" a�� d�o�� ' � ]�il sad��a�c �n�:�i,e matter. of the ei: �:_�1''alsh� under 4- te1'1t< _� ' tbsive. St. Paul a �,� °��s cz�.��. Q ��oa o!patkf�ng reQuirema�►ts r s w�pa' ta 6 and 8, r' $�e k�},� P t os�. at.{,� � �� _ at�d �i'. � r$, x�a 9 1 9 7 0 � ��Y� ,�..��: JUL C O U N C I L M E N c s u�e�. �o> l A d o p t e d b y t h e C o u n cil 19— Yeas Nays Butler �� `� �� Carlson A �•oved 19` Le�ine n Favor Meredith � Sprafka or A gainst Tedeaco Mr. President, McCarty PUBLISHED �UL �1 ��j0 �� ___. , ' BOARD OF ZONING, CITY OF ST. PAUL 1010 COMMERCE BUILDING • ST. PAUL,MINNESOTA 55101 • PHONE: 223-4151 . �� July 1, 1970 Mr. Harry E. Marshall City Clerk Room 386 City Hall Dear Sir: This is written in response to the appeal of John J. Walsh to relax the parking requirements for a self-service car wash on property located on the southwest corner of Cleveland and St. Clair Avenues, and noted in detail by the legal description on fi1e. This matter was considered at the June 4, 1970, Board of Zoning meeting. The staff explained that this site with frontages of about 90 feet on Cleveland Avenue and 137 feet along St. Clair Avenue has previously been used for a filling station and dry-cleaning pick-up station. The structure remains from these uses and the property is currently used for parking by customers of the neighboring commercial uses at this inter- section. The property is somewhat unkept and is several feet above the alley abutting on the west. The staff noted that the appellant proposes to remodel the now vacant structure for use as a three-bay self-service car wash with space on the property for 29 cars. The Zoning Code, however, requires space sufficient to handle 40 cars. Staff conclusions noted that a large site would be desirable for this operation, both to allow for more reservoir stacking spaces and to a11ow for adequate landscaped buffering areas. Mr. John Wa1sh, the appellant, noted that the proposed building will require low maintenance and that he would be willing to accept a suggested closing time. Several area residents were present on this matter and expressed concern about the present condition of the property and how it might be improved. They noted the surrounding commercial uses and the resulting traffic congestion, and the existence of the playground to the northwest across the inter- section. Concern was expressed that any new development be maintained and have an attendant present. -1- O Mr. Harry E. Marshall (continued) July l, 1970 The Board discussed this matter and subsequently it was moved to recommend denial. Problems of unattended facilities, excessive variance, no control over the number of waiting cars, and a possible detrimental effect were mentioned as reasons for the motion, and its second. The motion to recommend denial carried by a 5-0 vote. Very t ly yours, �'" ��I��''" � �. ER J. TA Secretary, ard of Zoning PJM:gaf CLS Z.F. �k6977 -� / V -2- �R ' , ' Harry E. Mars6all , ��Ty" �F � Albe�# B. Olsoe City Clerk and ��w '% Counoil Recorder F �., �� Commissioner of Rep-i.atration � � �� _�a �ys n OFFICE OP THE CITY CLERK CITY OF SAINT PAUL BUREAU OF RECORDS 88B City Hall St.Paul,Minnesota 55i0°L April 21� 1970. Zoning Board, Commerce Bldg. Gentlemen: The City Council referred to you for recommendation the attached zoning appeal of John J. Walsh to relax the parking requirements for a self-service car wash to be located on the southwest corner of Cleveland and St. Clair St. Very truly yours, �6�- ( �� City Clerk �� hp Z��.if �''�� _�:4��.�•�., o``�' � �� \� "" . � � � 5� - N ��.- `�� . �• � � ' ��z _. . �'� . �o � John J . Walsh �3� 1036 Po�tland . St. Paul, Minn. 227-2245 April 16, 1970 TO THE HONORABLE MAYOR AND C(TY COUNCIL % the City Clerk City of Saint Paul , Minnesota Dear Sirs: I respectfully request that you relax the parking requirements for a self-service car wash to be located on the Southwest co�ner of Cleveland and St. Clair Street, St. Paul , Minnesota. We are abie to get 29 cars on this site in lieu of the quantity requested by the planning code. We feel this is a more than adequate amount based on our experience in this type of business. The property is presently not in use and has previously been used as a drive-in dry clean�ng pickup station and prior to that a filling station. The property is presently known as 2�1 South Cleveland, Lot 5 and 6, Block I , Loudin Park Additton. Very truly yo��f� - L John . Walsh Z�� V �� :, .� ---_._ __. _ _•_._.._...__._ _ . --- --- �. .».___- � � �J � � � � � �P� �:: :.; ��t� �t� �Al�l'�}��q �A�Q Saint P�uf, Mjnrtesota �^ . BOARD OF ZONING REPORT AND ACTION _ June 4, 1970 Plat Ma� �k18 Acting under Legislative Code Chapter 60 thru 64 passed August 22, 1922, as amended to April 6. 1970. 6977 1. =,''r'Ll�"�:I'� ;; p�A.:tE ; John J. Walsh � 4311 :�, �,L.�SSI.'ICA'I'I:)N . � Amendment � Appeal ❑ Permit �Other X-894 3, ,��:,)a� a Relax the parking requirements for a self-aervice car waeh u, I��Ci;TT.ON : Southwest corner of Cleveland and St. Clair Avenues 5. ;,EGAL DESC::IPTSO:I ; Lota 5 and 6, Block 1, Loudin Park Addition o. Pr<ESF.PlT 'I.�t1iN�; Commercial j � °:��SUAN'I' '1'� Zon£n� Code Chapter: 60 Section: .23 F'arap,raphs 6, B e , STAf'F It�'VES'I'IGATION F, REPORTs Date: 5/28/70 Byt CLS A. HISTORY: In 1959 a permit was granted to operate a dry-cleaning pick-up station on this property. Prior to that time the property was uaed for a filling station. B. PROPOSED USE: Install and operate a self-aervice car wash. C. PRESENT STANDARD: The Zoning Code requires that car washes provide sufficient off-street area to accom�nodate the parking of at least 40 cars. D. NEED FOR APPEAL: The appellant proposea space to accommodate 29 cars and states his feeling that this is more than an adequate amount based on his experience in the business. E. VARIANCE: The variance requested is the 11-car difference between the 40 required and 29 proposed, and repreaente a relaxation of 27'�'/,. F. FRONTAGE AND AREA: Thia site hae a frontage of 89.57 feet along Cleveland Avenue end 137.24 feet fronting on St. Clair Avenue, resulting in a total area of approximately 12,292.5868 square feet. Thia operation will be conducted on the east 75 feet of the above-described property. G. AREA ZONING: Commercial zoning exists from this property east along both sides of St. Clair. To the west on both sides of St. Clair is "B" Residence zoning. The remainder of the area is zoned "A" Residence. H. SITE CONDITIONS: The site is occupied by s vacant co�nercial building which apparently was originally a filling station. The site is at the grade of Cleveland Avenue and slopes down to the west. The property is currently used for parking for the neighborhood commercial uses at this intersection and is somewhat unkept. I. AREA CONDITIONS: North across St. Clair Avenue is a filling atation on the north- west corner of the intersection of Cleveland end St. Clair; also, a small food market fronting on St. Clair; south and adjacent ia a Northern States Power sub- station fronting on Cleveland; east acrosa Cleveland are various commercial uses fronting on Cleveland; weat and ecross an elley are duplexea which front on St. Clair. A public achool and playground ie to the northeast across the interse.ction. 9. BOARD ACTION: To Recom�nend � Approval � Denial Council Letter Dated: Moved by . 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I i ! ,� I � 2 � Q i ' ____.__ _ _.____.�.� _....__.1.._.1 Z _. '_ • `�._.�._.. _ 1 • 0 W � _,.._.�+_...�. ._..,...___- p �' � � ,,,,1 �, � ` T 1 W y��!� lAi`�It')�n��0 Oi��O!010�0 r �1 i� Ct� c� A n�ni�� Inln�� r,� ]L . -. - APPL�CANT John J. Welsh �.EGEND PU��OJ t� a) Re lax the,parking requirement for a self-service car wash LAf�D US� b) Install a self-serv;ice car wash Q ONE-FAMlLY PRESENT ZONING �ommercia� �' TWO-FAMILY �Y THRE E- FAMILY PETITION SIGNERS ' . - - FOUR-FAMILY . � MULTI- FAMILY FILE No. 6977-6978 � •�COMMERCIAL - NoRTH n � INDUSTRIAL V VACANT St. Paul Planning 8oard, Date� sJ2s/�o � Property under considerotion 1�1INilTES OF TBE PUBLIC HEARING BEFOF.E THL BQARD OF ZONING on Thursday, June 4, I970, at 2:00 P,M, PRESENT: Messrs. Ames, Gauger, McPartlin, Maietta, and Mansur of the Boerd, and Messrs. �3rown and Sor�nson, Mrs. Franezea, and Pgias Sperr of the staff. Mr, Rutzick of the Board was present but did not vote. JO�Ild J� WALSH: An appesl Co relax the psrking requirements fo� a self- aervice car wash on property located an the southw�at corner of Cleveland and St. GlBir Av+�nues. Mr. Sorenson n�ted th�t the Zoning Code requires a 40-car capacity for atacking space. He explained �hat the Council directed thaz ehis r�c�uire- ment be reviewed since self--service csr wsahes may nat need a �0-car capacity. The staff has been caor.king on this and requesting that applicants wait until the study fs completed, �.f they can�xot meet Che required 40 stack�.ng spaces. This appeal, however, would l.ike a determfnation made at this time. To sw�ar;Lze the staff report, Mr. Soreason �xot�d that the appell.ant pro- poses spac:e for 29 cars, which poses ar. ll�car dffferential from the Code, and a relaxation of 27�o This siic� has a fzc�n�age of a9.�7 feet along Clevels�d Avenue and 137.24 feee fronting ore Sta Clair Avenue, resulting in � tot�l aree o€ approa�:imateky 12,292.5868 square feet, The car wash operat��n would be conducted on the e�3t 75 feet of the abave-described property. Ccrammercigl zoniag exists �:rom �his property east along both sides of St. Cl�ir Avenue. °�'a the caesL• on bo�h sides of St. Clair is "B" Residence zoning. The rem.ainder of �he axea is zoned "A" Residence. The site is ocaupied by a vscant co�►ercial buildzng which anparently waa originally a fi�D.ing stati�r�. The site is at the grade Uf Cl.evel�nd Avenue and slopes dowxt to th� west. The property is carrent�y used for parkiag for the neighborhood comme�ci�3� uses a�c �his �nt�ers�etion and is samewhat unkept. North across St9 Clair Avenu� ia � fi3.ling st�tion oa *he narthwest corner of the intersection c�.f Clev��.and �nd St, Clsir; also, a sma11 food market fronting on Sta Cl�ir; south and ad�acent is a Northea�n. States Power sub-atation fronting on �Iev�:Irand; easC ac�-oss Clevelarad are various caumiercial uses fronting au Cle�vel�nd; wes� and across an al�e�* axe duplexes which €ront an Ste Cla•ix Avenue. In conclusion, Mr. 'Sore�ason ucst2d rehat th.e skaff would prefer to see a larger area Co provide more s�ackfa�g and more green buffering space. A revised plan aubmitt�d by tlae appellant makes goad use of the land availab�e; it i.ndicatas �s;.ovlsiox� for shie�di�np, headlights, etc. The appellant, John Wa�sh, s�uted that some neighbo�s �re for the c�r wash, while ot:hers oppose i�:. Tl3e �rchitect noted �he bu�.lding will req�aire 2ow- maintenance. He s�sid two dri�re�aays �te proPoseci in tit� plan. -11- JOHN J', WALSH fapp�al) (G/4/70) {�on�inued?: Mr. Walsh further neted thst the closing time of the car wa�h ogeration is af concern to neighborhood residenra. He suggested it be a condition af the Zonin� Board to acco�odate this time e3.ement. Mr. Sorenson not�d that the staff and '�raffic Engineer would prefer one driveway, yefi �t could be approved ei�her way. Mr. John Heal}=, whti bives on St. Claix Avenue about 3 properties away from the subject site, wanted to n��e the people in oppvsitio� at thfs public hearing. He ssid the appel�ant hss � plan for a nice-looking building and this would be bett�r than the ugly building Cha� is there aow. He auggested that there should be snpervision of the c�r wash if it is approved, aad that there should 'b� only on� exit; thus, the neig�bors would be more inclined to be in f�vor a£ th2 �scility. He noted t�at neigtibors are concerned about hsving cars come in off the coxner, ��e �all �r the property line would be from 4-7 feet tall; he fears this wi11 matce a blind comer for cara }.eaving the car wash. There is � fair amaunt of tra�fi_c there due tv the grocery store, etc. The property is �t str�et gr�de a�Yd tr.eu �3rops off 5 feeC. He hopes that the wall could be moved �lassr �o Cleveland Avenue �o keep same af the natural grade th�re. Mra W�►lsh ra�uld hav� some barrfer in there to shield headli�hts, etc. Mr, Richard �o Wil_hoit, 265 Snuth Cleveland Avenue, stated that most of the neighbors agre� with Mr, Healy. There sacrul.d basfcaZly be the same type of traf£ic as naw. On the north�ast corn�r is the Grovel�nd Playground and School. There is a good deel of pedestria�i ��affic in thxs srea; that is one reason they woald prefer only one drivew�y for a car wash. Feople congregat� on corners ��ra�ting for buses. :�f shrubbery ia placed on the subject site, it would prove some aetisfaction to the residents. Mr. Mensur asked the oppox�enta if the groposed use would ta� preferabLe to the ol� building that pre�ently �exists ��Z�re. *Zr. Wflhoit said per�onally he would not want it there because it wi�.l be an unattended lot. fle would prefer to see a facili�y therE that iE attended �aily. Iie noted Chat teen- agers have a tendency ta "h�ng around" a pLace such as that. Regard�r�g the car wash, Mr, Ru�z�.ak asl�ecl ii a car s��ould have tcs back out onto the street. The ap;sellent said th�re �aould b� a turn-a�round at the back of the buiiding. �Ir, McPa�tlin moved for den.iai o� 9:h€ appeal, noting th�t trouble arises from unattend�d facilit�es. He feels the wartance is too ��cce�sive for the prapos�d operation, and there ie no c�r�troZ over the number of cars that �oald be w�a�t3ng. The motion was �eco�d�d by Mr., ►�la3.etta, w=ho said g business of �his type in a neighborhood �,aouAd be rSetrim�ntal ta the character of the residences. The motior� carried unanimousl.y. Submitted by: Colonel Lo Sorenson ftQbert �.o Ames, Chairmsn -12_ CITY OF SAINT PAUL MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE 113 Court House 55102 June 19, 1970 City Clerk File X894, Page You are hereby notified that a public hearing will be held in the Council Chambers of the City Hall and Court House at 10:00 a.m. on July 2, 197Q, on the application of John J. Walsh for: 1) A permit to install a self-service car wash, and 2) An appeal to relax parking requiremenCs for a self- service car wash on the property described as follows; Lots 5 and 6, Block 1, Loudin Park Addition. The property is located on the southwest corner of Cleveland and St. Clair Avenues. For further information, contact the Planning Board, Room 10].0 Coaamerce Building or telephone 223-4151. ROSALIE L. BUTLER Cammissioner of Finance O , Corporation Counsel • � �. ECEIVED , � JUL 11970 GQ��ppRp710P1 COUNSEL' MATCE1i� �0 B� G(R3SIDERED �Y °1'EiE �T'.LX COUNCIL AT A Pi7BLiC IiEARIN� H�LD QN THURST+�SY, �iJLY 2, 1970A �� lt��00 A,M� -- CI�.'Y �3:ALI� 1. AppD.icans� - John 3, Wa�.sh Locatiore - Sout�west corn�r of �level��d ana St. Cla�ir Avenues Zvning -> �o�aaerei�l Purpose - APP�L -� Rels� the paYking requir�n�nts for a self-service c�s wa�h Recomcnen.d�zion �- Der�i�l 2� A�pl�z.��x� � Su�ser �aI« ��aies, Zn�. �ncatzo�z - t•Jest �af ?Zuth ��reet beta�een Subu�ba� Av�nue acad the �ast- boasnc �xit tr� R��h Street from �-g!� Z�nin� - Cama��r,ci�al. Purpas� - PEI�i�L't' - Insg��.l � 3CF3-car cuscomer- ex�;�loy�e narking lat ro be ��d i�. conjur�c��an �ith a new �uperm�rk.r�� on Si2�)l32"�.�n Av�n�a� and R�th Street Recos�nend�txo�. w Appr�v�l . ' � BOARD OF ZONING, CITY OF ST. PAUL 1010 COMMERCE BUILDING � ST. PAUL,MINNESOTA 55101 • PHONE: 223-4151 July 1, 1970 Mr. Harry E. Marshall City Clerk Room 386 City Hall Dear Sir: This ie written in response to the appeal of John J. Walsh to relax the parking requirements for a self-service car wash on property located on the southwest corner of Cleveland and St. Cleir Avenues, and noted in detail by the legal description on file. Thie matter was conaidered at the June 4, 1970, Board of Zoning meeting. The staff explained that this site with frontagea of about 90 feet on Cleveland Avenue and 137 feet along St. Clair Avenue has previously been used for a filling station and dry-cleaning pick-up station. The structure remains from these uaes and the property is currently used for parking by customers of the neighboring commercial uses at this inter- section. The property is somewhat unkept and is several feet above the alley abutting on the west. The staff noted that the appellant proposes to remodel the now vacant structure for use as a three-bay self-service car wash with space on the property for 29 cara. The Zoning Code, however, requires space sufficient to handle 40 cars. Staff conclusions noted that a large site would be deairable for thia operation, both to allow for more reaervoir atecking apaces and to allow for adequate landscaped buffering areas. Mr. John Walsh, �1e� appellant, noted that the proposed building will require low maintenance and that he would be willing to accept a suggested closing time. Several area reaidents were present on this matter and expressed concern about the present condition of the property and how it might be improved. They noted the surrounding commercial uaes and the resulting traffic congestion, and the existence of the playground to the northweat acroas the inter- aection. Concern was expressed that any new development be maintained and have an attendant preaent. -1- �O Mr. Harry E. Marshall (continued) July l, 1970 The Board discusaed this matter and subsequently it was moved to recom�end denial. Problems of unattended facilities, excessive variance, no control over the number of waiting cars, and a possible detrimental effect were mentioned as reasons for the motion, and its second. The motion to recommend denial carried by a 5-0 vote. Very t ly yours, i` i � , �,. R J. TA Secretary, ard of Zoning PJM:gaf CLS Z.F. #6977 -2- , E30ARD OF ZONING REPORT AND ACTION June 4, 1970 I'l:�t Map ��18 . Acting under Legislative Code Chapter 60 thru 64 passed August 22, 1922, aa amended to April 6, 1970. 6977 1 ..�':'�1:;�.IT `:� rdA'iF , John ,T, walsh � 4311 2, CLIISSIFICA":'I7^! , � Amendment � Appeal ❑ Permit �Other X-894 3, ' �)KPO�F,' e Relax the parking requirements for a self-aervice car wash wa �a`��A'IOr� % Southwest corner of Cleveland end St. Clair Avenues 5. ',L;(�AL �LSCZ1PT10id ; Lots 5 and 6, Block 1, Loudin Perk Addition G, P:C5}:P1T 7.�NItdCs Commercial i . '�;;RSUANT '1'� Zonin� Code Chapters 60 5ection; .23 Parap,raph; 6, B 3 . �'I'AFF INV�;TIGATION � REPORT: Date: 5/28/70 By; CLS A. HISTORY: In 1959 a permit was granted to operate a dry-cleaning pick-up station on this property. Prior to that time the property was used for a filling station. B. PROPOSED USE: Install and operate a self-service car wash. C. PRESENT STANDARD: The Zoning Code requirea that car washes provide sufficient off-fltreet area to accommodate the perking of at leaet 40 cara. D. NEED FOR APPEAL: The eppellant propoaes apace to eccommodete 29 cara and states hia feeling that thie ie more than an adequate amount based on his experience in the buainesa. E. VARIANCE: The variance requeeted is the 11-car dlfference bstween the 40 required and 29 propoaed, and representa a relaxation of 27�'7',. F. FRONTAGE AND AREA: This site has a frontage of 89.57 feet along Cleveland Avenue and 137.24 feet fronting on St. Clair Avenue, resulting in a total area of approximately 12,292.5868 square feet. This operation will be conducted on the east 75 feet of the above-described property. G. AREA ZONING: Commercial zoning exists from this property east along both sides of St. Clair. To the west on both sides of St. Clair is "B" Residence zoning. The remainder of the area is zoned "A" Residence. H. SI�E CONDITIONS: The eite is occupied by a vacant commercial building which apparently wae originally a filling atation. The eite is at the grade of Cleveland Avenue and slopes down to the west. The property is currently used for parking for the neighborhood commercisl usea at thia intersection and is somewhat unkept. I. AREA CONDITIONS: North across St. Clair Avenue is a filling station on the north- west corner of the intersection of Cleveland and St. Clair; also, a small food market fronting on St. Clair; south and adjacent is a Northern States Power sub- station fronting on Cleveland; east across Cleveland are various commercial uses fronting on Cleveland; west and across an alley are duplexes which front on St. Clair. A public school and playground ia to the northeast across the intersection. 90 BOARD ACTION: To Reco�nend � Approval � Denial Council Letter Dated: Moved by . McPartlin Yeas Nays 7/1/70 Seconded b Gadler Date of Hearing y: Maietta X Gauger X Maietta 7/2/70 Secretary's remarks: x Mansur Council Action x Ames - Ch. X McPartlin (Alt.) 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JOHN J, WALSH: An appeal to relax ehe paxkfng requirements for a self- service car wash on property lacated an the southwest corn.er of Clev�eland and St. Clair AvQnues. Mr. Sorenson noted that �he Zon�n� Code rpquires a 40-csr capacity for atacking space. He explainec� tha� t�ae Council dixected that this require- ment be reviewed since sel€-servi.ce car w�ashes may not need a 4�-car capacity. The staff haa been wo�=king on this and r�questing that applicants wait until the study fs completed, ii they c�nnnt meet ±th� required 4d stacking spaces. This appeal, tsowevei, would �.ike a deterfnfaation made at this time. To su�srize the staff repor.�, �iro Sorensnn rotted that the appellant pro- poses space far 29 cars, which pr�ses an fll-car di£�er�ntisl from Che Code, and a relaxation of 27'�}'0� This site has a fxontage of a9.S7 feet el�ng Cleveland Avenue and 137.2�+ �'+�et fronting an St, Clair A•senue, zesulting in a Cotal area of approacima�ely 12,29�.5358 square feet. The car wash operation would be conducted n�. th� east 7� f�et of the above-descrfbed property. Comaeercia� zoning e�sista from �ti�ts prop��ty east along both sides of St. Clair Avenue. To the west o�. l�a�i� sfdes of St. Clsir ia "B" Resfdence zoning. The rem�inder of ttte aLe� is zoned '�A" Residence. ThE site is ocnupfed by a v�cant ca�nercial bailding which spparently was originally a filling station. Th� site is at the grade of Cleveland Avenue �nd slopes down to the wes�. The property is currently used for p�rking for the neighborhood cauanercial uses at �his int�raectiQr� anci is somewiiat unkept. North acros� St. CZair Av�nue is a f��.ling etation on the northwest corner of the intersection of Cleveland and Sto C�.air; a1so, a am�ll faod market fronting on St„ CZair; s�uth and adjacent is a l�orthern States Pawer sub-atatfon fronting an Cleveland; esst �cross Cleveland are verious commerc�.al uses froaceing on Cleveland; wen� and acrass an alley are duplexea which front on S�< �lair AvEnue. In conclusion, t4r. Sorenson x►otad that the staff would prefer to see a Larger aXea to provide more stacking and �nore green buffering space. A xevised plan submitted by the agpellant mak�es good uae of the land avsilable; it indi�ates pr�visian £or stii.elding i-aeadlights, etc. The appellant, John 61a1sh, sta�ed that some nei.ghbors are for the car was�:, while others oppose �t. Th� archi�cect n�te� the be�ilding w�ll r�equire low- m�intensnce. He said two drzveways axe �.�roposed in the ptan. ..�1.. JOHN J. WALSH _{�ppeal) (6/4/70� (Continued): Mr. Walsh further noted thet the closing time of Che car wash operation is of concern to neighborhood residen�s. He suggested iC be a condition of the Zoning Board to acco�no�ate th�s time element. Mr. Soren�on �oted that the s�at� and �raffic Engineer would prefer one driveway, yet it could be approved either way. Mr. John Hesly, who 2ives on St. Cla�r Avenue about 3 properties away fram the subject site, wanted to note the people in opposi�ion et this public hearing. He said the appeliant h�s a plan €or a nice-lUOking building and this would be better than the ugly building th�t is there now. He suggested that there should be supervision of the car wash if it i8 approved, and that there should be anly one exit; thus, the neighhors would be more inclined to be in favar o£ the facility. He noCed that neighboxa are concerned abaut having car� come in o£f �he corner. The wall on the property line would be from 4-7 feet tall; he feara this will make a blind corner for care leaving the car �ash. There is a fair nmount of traffic there due to the gracery store, etc. The property is at street grade and then drops aff 5 feet. He hopes th�t the wall cau�d be moved closer ta Clevel�n� �venue tQ keep some of the natural gra�e ehere. Mr, Walsh wo�iid have so�e barrier in th�re to shield headligh�s, etc. Mro Richard Ao Wilhoit, ?_65 Sou�h Cleveland Avenue, s�ated t�at most of the neighbors agree with Mr, Healy. There would �a�ically be the same type of traffic ae now. On the northeast �orner is the Gioveland Playground and 5choo2. There is a good deal of pedestrian traffic in this erea; that is one reason they would prefer only one driveway for e car wash. People congregate on corners waiCing for busea. If shruUbery is p�aced on the aub3ect site, it would prove some setisfacCion �o the residents. Mr< Mansur asked the opnonents if the proposed us� would be preferable to � th� old building that pre�ently exisfis there. �ir. Wilhoit said pereonally he would noC want it there bec�use it will he an uta�ttended lot. He wauld prefer to see a facility there that is sttended �aily. He noted th�t teen- agers have a tende�cy to "hang around" � place such as tnat. Regarding the cer wash, Mr� Rutzick asked if a csx would have to �ack out onto the street. The spP�Ilsn� said there would be a turn-around at the back of the huiiding. Mr, McPart2in moved for deaia3. oi th� a�pesl, n�tfag that trouble ar�ses from unattended facilit�es. �e fee.l� tne variance is toa �xcassive for the propos�d oper�tion, �nd there is no control over th� number o£ c�rs thaC conld be waiting. The motian w$s t�e�onde� by Mr, AI��etta, �who said a business of this type in a neighborho�d wuuld be dEtrimen'��1 to the character of the residences. �'he motiom c�rried unanimously. Submit�ed by: Coloripl Lo Sorenson Rm�ert La Ames, Chairman -12-