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256276 � [[['''�� OR161NAL TO CITY CL6RK + -. �� ` ' CITY OF ST. PAUL �OE NCIL NO. OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK COU C R UT -G ERAL FORM PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONE ATF RESOLVEI), That the College of St. Thomas be ar�d hereby is granted a permit to install and operate an 88-car parking lot to be used in conjunction with the College, on property located on the sonthwest corner of Finn Street and Selby Aaen�e, more particularly described as follows: Al1 of Lot l, �he Tastern portion of Lot 2, aad a portion of the vacated alley adjacemt thereto; all of Lots 29 and 30 and a portion of vacated Finn Ave�ue adjacent thereto, all in Block 54, Desnoyer Park Addition �and a northerly portion. of the S.E. quarter of the �7ortheast quarter of Sectiom 5, Township 28, Range 23 West; all in accordance with plans dated Received Autgnst 23, 1971= subject to the coadition that said applicant-permittee, and � its successors and assigns, shall make due compliaaee with 0 � all applicable provisions of mu�nicipal ordinanees, state a o statutes and rules and regulations of public authorities � L Q � 0 U �; having cognizance. . N o � � COUNCILMEN Adopted by the Counci� 9 �97� 19— Y� xa�a NOV 1 0 197'� Butler .Cax�ae�-- F-f.��-, ppr 19— Levine n Favor Meredith Sprafka / / Mayor v A gainst Tedeaco Mr. Preaident, McCarty pUg��D NOV 13 1971 O a � • � ♦ ♦ BOARD OF ZONING, CITY OF ST. PAUL �°��` , 1010 COMMERCE BUILDING • ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA 55101 • PHONE: 223-4151 August 31, 1971 . << '� `�, _ ._. Mr. Harry E. Marshall : i� �:' ; �;_,r � City Clerk . - s _. t. �, ��,t Y :.a�il.� 386 Cit Hall "" , ,, Y .=::x:,:,t � 4.�..i. , .... _,� tu. St. Paul, Minnesota 55102 Dear Sir: This is written in response to the application of the College of St. Thomas for a permit to install an 88-car parking lot to be used in conjunction with the College, on property located on the southwest corner of Finn Street and Selby Avenue, and noted in detail by the legal description on file. This matter was heard at the August 5, 1971 Board of Zoning public hearing at which time those portions of the staff report were read which concerned the history of the site, design standards, the Traffic Engineer's comments and site and area conditions. Reports on file from the Traffic and Accident Section of the Police Department, from the Traffic Engineer's office and from the Fire Department reacting to the proposal were read. Mr. Harold R. Fotsch, attorney for the applicant, represented the proposal saying the proposed lot is to be reserved for residents of the dormitories. He noted that many of these students now park on Selby Avenue often for in- definite periods even through snow emergencies, and he said the parking lot would reduce the on-street parking. He said the plan retains as much foliage as possible as well as providing new screen planting along the north side of the lot. Mr. Fotsch said they plan to provide additional screen planting along the west side and also a "speed breaker" near the stop sign before entering Selby Avenue. Several residents of the area appeared on behalf of the application. They sub- mitted a petition supporting the proposal; and noting the on-street parking problem, stated that a parking lot would remove the cars from the street thus raising residential property values. Mr. Donald J. Leyden and Mr. L. J. Rogge, of the College's administrative staff, elaborated on the p1an. Mr. Patrick Curran, Chairman of the Merriam Park Citizen's Committee, presented from that Co�nittee a letter favoring the proposal which was read to the Board. Frank J. Murray appeared in opposition. He said the Merriam Park Community Council resolved to oppose the permit. He presented a petition in opposition as well. Noting that the College allows students to bring cars, he stated that more cars would replace those removed from the street by this parking lot which, he said, would depress residential property values. Mr. Philip McDonald, President of the Merriam Park Community Council, suggested that it is time to impieme�t a car pool or a bus riding campaign. He also expressed concern over personal safety and property values. � 1 C> �1 � /'�.� i � � � Harry E. Marshall, City Clerk -2- August 31, 1971 Subsequently, the Board heard a motion to recommend approval. The seconding motion noted that most of the opposition's concerns are matters for the Police Department for enforcing parking violations. It modified the motion to include those conditions included in the petition presented in favor of the permit. The motion carried by a vote of 4-0. Very truly yours ,� -� � � �' ,�� , /%.,``� , ; ' PETER : MA�IETTA Secretary, Board of Zoning PJM:kk PLR Z.F. �k7198 Enclostzres: Petition in favor Petition in opposition Letter & traffic count from traffic engineer Letter from Traffic and Accident Section Letter from Fire Department , . � , ,�T. ,,, � y,4 S ti � • �t � .i.. . - � -=_=� �t �m � RI<�HARG A- .'>CHNARR C I T Y O F S A i N T P A U L GARY R. NORSTRF�" Chief Enqineer � Deputy Commissioner Capital of Minnesota DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS 234 City Hell & Court Hous� b5102 ROGER M. CONWAY Commissioner August 2, 1971 Dr. Noland R. Heiden, Director - : ty f'lar�ning Board 1U1�) Connrcrc,e Bui ldiny St.. Paul , Minnesota 55101 7f�ar Ur, Heiden: Re: Proposed 88-car parking lot for St. Thomas Col- lege at tl�e southwest cor�er ot 5elby and Finn. We wish to verify your letter dated July 27, 1971 rE:questing exist- ing and projected volume assuming approval of the parking lot in question on Sclby Ave. between Cretin and Cleveland. Mr. Roettger of our office h�as ��erbally indicated our projected volumes. They are from 80 to 100 on Sclby from Finn to Cretin, from 40 to 50 on Selby from Finn to Cleveland an� 10 to 20 on Finn from Selby to Dayton. All these figures are typical 2�4 huur weekday volumes. We will furnish you with an up-to-date existing cnunt as soon as it has been eompleted. We s�hould point out, however, t�� i� u:�u lci may bc somewhat low at th i s t ime of the year when t:he t u 1 1 Sciivc� l sessions are not in operation. We should also indicate we favor this lot since it should remove much of the heavy parking now occurring on Selby and Finn in front of adja- cent residential property. Yours very tru�, ��`�ti�n�� -'�Q�'�L�. Robert G. Peterson City Traffic Enyineer RGP:b jh [r�' � � I� � �� ±�I �,u� �� ,�;; � �l'1'Y F'LANI`�la�t(i (�iU��1tU � .�rUnt l �ylis. ��.iV•?A�:i:aR3 ,...N"- _ ' . ._ � _ .�__ ---._,� - r - �" ;: , ;, �� . ...� .�..�. THAF`I�'IC DU��F.AU ___. _ , . ._._. 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' '.i1:�i':�i, 1�. ... i:.i•Lt._, ,,. , Cf t')' TT�1��'�C 'ill: .^1"�{'t!'C1iG�li1'l '!�,�;1. • I��r�i<i^ I'llc 71`.�0 cc.: Cc,�,�•+:,•,�.ir�ncr '-'.�re<lit!i cc : Chi cf Fi 1.�; '� ) 'i/.� ' CITY OF SAIN1' PAUL Cspital of Minnesota //. �e a�t�.ekt o ublcc a etc p � � � ist'�ic��,�t� ui� Tenth and Minnesota Streets u�v�sl�i!v c�� I�IKI: PRO"l'1�:('7'IUN UEAN MEREDITH,Commissioner FIRF; PKE�:VENTION ti�t•�,hrn I� ('��nro� RAIJ'H (:. MERRILL. 1)eputy ('ummissioner 1N:ili�•r ( . Shiniek I�irc('hicf I�irc Mar�hal AuKust 3, 1971 Mr. Nuland K. Heiden� Director �;i tv I'l;�nnin� F3oard of St. Paul 1�11 O t�ornmerce 13ui1ding � St, f'a��l , Atirinesota 55i01 Dear Mr. lieiden: 'Chi:; i�, written in response to the applicet.ion of St. Thc>rnas Coll��;e t�� in�t:�ll :�n t��i-c<�r parking lot located on the southwest corner �>f ;;elt,y AvF�nue and v�catecl Finn 5treet. '1'iie fc>1 Lowin�, i_s the opinion of DistricC Chief Melvf.n Vo�;elgesang: I'he <lriveway at present provides the only roadway to ap�roximately six ��uildi.iiF;s on the campus. It is a dead-end driveway, terminating in a cul-r;e-sac at the Armory� widened enough to permit vehicles to turn arc�und. Also, there are several short, connecting driveways alon� its lenf;th whr�re fire vehicles can turn around or pass one anvther if necessary. It is rny opinion that the driveway, if unobstructed, is adequate to our needs. However , any congestion of traffic or uncontrolled parkin�; iri the roadway cnul� seriously delay or prevent our response to a �ire. The yuesY.ion of ��iec;ua�-v, therefore, boi l s down t�> the question of whethei- or not the col l f>�;e ;acimini �tration wi] 1 �olice the area in a manner that will insure an o��en ruarlway at� ail times. From limited obse�rvation, I would say tiiat. it h��s � n�,r. a l ways done so. . � � � The �,r<�posed 88-car parking lot should have no adverse effect on fire pro- k f tection services as long as the lot does not encroach on the existing, drive�.ay. Entrance to the lot should be from Selby Avenue, with a stron�, �;tiard-rail � � preventin�; encroachment on the driveway. t i In re�;ard to the question about Selby Avenue the problem is the usual one we encuunter with so many of our residential streets. In the summer time, ' t witti cars parked tightly against the curbs on both sides of the street, ` � there is still sufficient room for fire vehicles to maneuver as needed. � In t}if> winter time, it' s a different story As you well know. Cars park F fartl�r>r out from the curbs and the roadway narrows down to a single lane �' � � and it b�c�omes impossible for one vehicle to pass another. My first rec- ornmen<1at.ion would be that a year-round parking ben be es[ablishecl for the ' sout.h sicle of Selby Avenue between Cleveland and Cretin Aves. (bdjoining the� c�mpus). If this is not acceptable, then I would recommenci the same ban for the period between November lst and April 15th. f � � � (�° D Sincerelyx _-� �`'i �� P ,� � � ,5 , � � � <ti .� . . �.'� i� .: , Steve+ Conr.oy ��,i ' SC:as C.�.�.� Fire Chief � wLl��ry�r�n{, �3uAKL � ,.-,�Y�m, ,,�nc ;'.,,.� ,. ,,,,.;.rh The undersigned hereby consent to the piacement of an eiyhty-eight (8$) car parking )ot by The College of St. Th<�mas at t►�� Southwest corner of Selby Avenue and Finn Avenue providing the following conditions are met: 1 . That a new hedge screen fence be placed on the north side of said parking lot facing Selby Avenue and on the west side of said parking lot facing Cretin Avenue. 2. That the lot have a hard surface �s �pposed to a packed gravel or aggregate surface. 3. That a speed braker (raised bump) be placed immediately before the stop sign at the exit from the College of St. Thomas Campus on vacated Finn Avenue. 4. That the spaces in said parking lot be assigned to the students residing in the dormitories at the College of St. Thomas and that those students residing in the dc�rmitories not having accommodations in the new parking l�t be provided witli parking spaces at one of the other parking lots on the College of St. Thomas Campus . t ., , r. { , . '�,,• ' 4 , �� , i � � ! ��L:� 6�. NAME ADDRESS DATE ----__ ' � � . ', -, . , �' ' , , , i ,, �--�-t ', �_L' .� �'�� r - -�. _:� � 1 ��.,� �� .. ,.,� p _ 1-�� ( r � ��l � � , . .. _ , . � , . 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Gentlemen: The City Council referred to you for recc�nend`ation the attached application of the College of St. Thomas for an 88-car capacity parking lot on the southw�est corner of Selby Avenue and Finn Avenue, as flu:ther described therein. VeY'Y �-Y Y�'S� � � , ' � .. ty Cler nP � ` s! , r. f ` ' � z — �' �� .i.! � �' i , _.. - t � _. �. !.' � 1 �z�r , � �,.t; :� ..}�.E , ..:.:�.� C �%.�.1z6 k�� r =. � 0� ,�i -�,��j h � ,�,e��:sc�c� - l� �,'�g � � t�a��► �,��s� eo� a � ��/ o�-✓"G' ` �,_ -� - -- -_ =------s --__ � S��` � ^�� r, - � �� C7 � i ,, � �d�:� -�- .. ! �t , , . , � ._ � �,� �`� �`�� - l� -7� � � �, x� �� .!- � � City of Saint Paul, Minnesota APPLICATION FOB SPECIAL COUNCIL USE PERHIIT �� (Please print or type) � � l TO THE I�NORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COiJN+CIL � the City Clerk City of Saint Paul, Minaesota Application is hereb made to ��Z�� y install and operate a new �cross one out) � FILLING 'STATION No. of islands and pumps : No. of tanks and capacity: � PARKING LOT Capacity of parking lot gg �ars To be used in connection a►ith; Qparetlo�t of Co1l�efe o1` St. Thanas o ��S��oUS: (indicate type such as Drive-in Refreshment Stand, Used Car Lot, Dry Cleaning Pick-up Station, Ice Vendor, etc.) Capacity of parking ares: *Location � Soutl�st cofner of Selby Aventte aeid Fln n Av�nus (vacat�d� Legal Description : Lot (*� ��py,�� Block Addition Applicant's Name : �oliags O!` St. Thvnas Home or Office Address: 2115 Siwmjt AVa171#�� S�. P�u� , Ninnesota Phone Number ; 61�-$$$� FOR/B�APPLICANT, * Signa (date . �.� �r Address : y��j ��j- �,r�� St. Psd1 , Hltln. Phone No.: �� d�reet �11 y��re�pondsn�e aAd qw�t� ior�a to Wl)ilan M. 8sa�1a ' Wbo�a, Costello t Hart, Attc��neyrs or the College of St. Thar�ea, 1400 Nortt�+w�st�srn Nattor�a When completed: file three copies of this application form and three prints of 88EIi� B�dg. , tbe preliminarq lay-out plans of the proposed facility with the City Clerk, St. Paii1 � Room 386, City Hall and Court House, Saint Paul, Minnesota MTtfne�Ota Z-3 6/11/56 �z7'�6�3 *EXAMPLE: 1. S.E. corner of Main St. and First St. 2. South side of Main St. between First and Second St. Lagal descrtptTon: A1! of Lot 1 , the Eastarn portlon of Lot 2, and a potticx� ef the v�acatad alliy ad,Jacent ther+sto; ali of Lots 2� and �0 arecl a portion of va�c�stsd Ff� Aviau. �d,�ar�nt theroto,`all in �tock 54, t�asnoysr PaMc Addltion aad a northe�►ly portiat� of the S.�. quartsr of it�ea Northtast quarter of Section §, ToMmship 28, R�nge 23 4t�st. � m , ' � . . , � , � City ot Saiat Paul, Minaesota - APPLICATION FOR 3PECIAL COLil�DCIL i�E PSR6tIT � ' (Please pt'l,�1�: o�'°�YPe) TO T� AONiORABI,� MAYOIt AND CITY OOUNCIL � � tbe City Cierk � � Citq of 3sint Pau1, Minaesota Applicatioa is hereby made to (cross one out) instali aad operate a new Q FILLINC� STATION No. of islands and pumps : ;. No. of tanks aad cspacity: � PARKINiG Capacity of parkiag lot � � � w To be used in connection aritb: �j�� . � �� y[ISCEId.ANEOUS: , iadicate tqpe sucb as rive-1n Iteireshsent St�nd; Used C�tr Lot, Dry Cleaning Pick-up 3tatioa, Ice Yeador, etc.) :Capacity of parking area: *Location : �; ��r � �� y� �� LegA1 Descriptioa : Lot �i! �� Block Addition Applicaat•s Na�e : �� '� ��• �� Home or Oifice Address: �� MMNIM�,� �� {�, � Phona �Number : �■�� ( . . 0 u � � � �� aPr�ic�rrr, _ ,.►Ur�l ? � 19 71 �� CiTY ��r��x�� I�t��, Saint Paul, Minne�� i . dAt@ AddreAa �� i �. �� M�* � '�� iJ`�7�� '�'� �,.:� " Pboae No.: �� i� �!`� - .. � NMlll��r i�li'11�11M s NII�'�R�, � » � When completed: �ile three copies oi this appiication form aad t6ree prints o! ��r tbe preliminarq lay-put pians of tbe proposed f�cility witb tbe Citq Clerk, �s �,� . 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NORTu � �f, Paul 1'lanninq 600rd, �1ate July z�, 19�1 �� F'�OP�F�TY IN �UE�STlON . � • ' MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC H�AARING BERORE THE BOARD OF ZONING tM Thursday, August 5, 1971 at 2:00 p.m. PRESENT: Mxs. Cochr�ne, Messrs. McPartlin, Mansur of the. Board; �nd Messrs. Brown and Rosetter, and K, Kantorowicz of the ataff. COLLEGE OF SAINT TH0�1AS: A permit to insCall an 88�car parking lot to be used in cunj�nctiou witt� the College on property locatea oa the southwest corner of Finn Street and Selby Avenue. Mr. Rosetter sumsnarized the staff report, a pgrt of the file, by noting thak an applicatfon for a 48-c�r parking lot on this atte wae denied by the Clty Council on September 28, 1967. The proposed parking lot is in two eections separated by a College building. The parking areas are adjacent to an existing service drive that p�ovidee acc�ss to Selby Avenue 8t Finn StreeC. The plan, as submitted, meets the mini�num design star�d�rd. The perking area adjacent to Selby Avenu� with a slight change in layout and providing three less parking spaces wo�xld provide better access from the College service driveway. �Phe Traffic L�ngineex reviewed the pls�a and aoted that the entrantces to the parking area from �he p�ivate road were too narrow for one-way operation. and angle p�nrking would �e more efficixnt for one-way operationo He coimaented that this was the option of the applican�. A proposed revision designed by the staff would provide wider entrance drives. The grade of the site is approximately the same as the gr�de of Selby Avenuc. Adjofning to the west is a baseball diamond ax�d a practice area. EasC ecro3s the private road are tennis courts and s�udent residence bu�ldings. The area to the north is predominately single-fsmily with som� multi-fsmily uses. The rest of the area is callege campus. Repor�s were requested from the �r�affic and Accident Section, Depsrtment of Public Safety; City Traffic Engfneer; a�d City of S�o Paul Fire Ctaief. Mr, Rosette� r�ad the letter on fi�� f�om �� Tgaf.fie and AccidenC Sec�ioaa dgted 3�aly 30, 19?la Mr. Rose�ter then read �he Ietter on ff le ciat�d Augu�t 2. 1971 from the Traffic Engine�r which presented the traffic count increase expected from the proposed park3.ng Aot. Then Mr. �.oaetter repeat�d that the present t�raffic count average from the count conducted on August 3 s�d 4 was 6�� trips. He ��ia the Ts�a�fic Engfneer has xndicat�d that this is slightly above average with a typical counC on a re�ider�tial stre�t being 3-40Q trips per dayo Mx. Ftosetter re�d thr� letter os� file from Steve Conroy, Fire Chfe€. Representiag the applicant was Mr� Harold R� Fotisch, 1400 Nor��twest�em Natianal $ank Bc4,ildin�, Mr. Fotsch displayed a sketehed map of the �rea befare the �o�rd. He no�ed thet the parlcing problem h�,s been caused by full-time residents of Dowling Ha11, a dosmit�ry on the campus. He noted tha� 70-90 cars park fu11 time on Selby and Finn. ":�4xe cars remain o� the stre�ts for 24 hours i� uu�ay instances end it depriv�s r�sidents af the area of pYaces to park. In the winter tim�� thege is s problem w3th �he "snow birds." The College is attemptin:g t� reduce the 24-haur on-strec?t parker, he said. The day students usu�lly came and �� be€ore children are getti�ag out of sch�og �r�d before the people i�a the nei�hbo�hood come home from work. Mro Fotsch po�nted out that the �►eighbors' main abjection is to fu11-time students whc► le�ve their cars ovexnight on the streets at►d -lw CULLEGE OF S�7NT THaMAS (continued) August 5, 1971 cause congestion. �he proposed parking lot is to be reeerved for residents of the dormitories. The students would be given permits ta park in the lot end they will strtctly enforce the parking bgn aloag vacated Fina Street. He �oted there is a 47�c�r parkiag lot on the campua th�t is used by teachers and priests. �he plan �s submitted shows trees along vacated �inn S�reet. It is the desire of ehe College to retein as many trees as possible. The trees somewhat nerrow the entrance to the parking lot itself but the inteat is to leave es much foilage in �e �rea as possible. An additional suggestion �hat has been msde, which the College is willing to �o along with, is the placing of a speed breaker ��esd of the stap sigu at Flnn end Selbys In response to a q�es�ion from Mr. Ames, Mr. Fotsch explained that e speed breaker is essentially a bump. rsised a few inches fram the paveaient so that a car cannot tr�vel over it �t moz� than five miles per hour without d�u�ge. The plaa also call� for screen h�dging slong Selby Avenue side to �helter the parking lot. �`he Callege ia also willing t� extend screening an the �getin �ide t� �t le�ot the pow�r building. Th�re is a grade o£ 6 feet in height before it goes down to the basebal� field. The College's proposal meets the ob�ections as outlined greviously. The College hopes they Erave a situetion where the safety of the area resid�nts has been increased. Thas will eliminate snowbirds du�ing the winte� time and reduce tiravel for the 24•hour atud�nts who are trying to find places to park. The CoLlege feels it has added to the aeathetics of the area by creating the screen fencing. Th� c8rs which studenta owa sre not always in the best af shape aad do not always have a very nice epge�rance. The screening will aid in eliminating the uneightliness of the cars. Rether than the parkiag lot depreciating the property values of the surrounding land, if anything, it will app�eciat� b�ca�se of the reduced �awun� of cars on the street and concentrate them oa the psrking lat. Mrs. 3ohn Durben, 2165 Selby Avenue, said there are two petitions circulatiage She said she had been opposed �o the parking lot and signed the pet�tion before she found out all the facts. Mr�. Durben i�itiated a aecond petition supporting the propos�d parking lot, but she only had a chance to contact some of the pe�ple fn the are�. S�� feels the parking lot could only be an asset to the neighborhood. Mrs. Helen Millett, 2159 Selby Avenue, stated that rlr. Fotsch presented the situation very w�llo She a�ated he nnderstat�d �he �umber of snowbir.ds ead the length of time in which they �re pmrked. Many times th�y have three-week snowbirds when thestudents go home f�r Christmss v�cation, etc. She feels the value of the property is not going to go np if people see there is no p��ce to p�xk in front of the homes. fihe residenis are very fortun,ate that the College gave them aaother chance. Order could be brought to the neighborhood if 88 cars were to be taken off the street and placed in the parking lot. Mr, Co Bushard, 20S?_ Day�on Avenue, stated S8 cars taken off the street would eliminate the proble� ��ey heve had in the pa�t with snowbfrds. People who are �ot close to �h��e psoblems �re si�ning r.he peeition, he seid. Mrs. Exaia McGuire, 2149 S�lby Avenue, noted she lives in the middle of the -?.- C4LY.�E �I�' �ArN'I 'I`�t�i� �acstt��.t*r..ta:�d� At��ust S, 19�1 blpck betwe�a �'ir�n �n.d Cre�±.�t. �hey h�� liired �,r� Che a�e� fox q�3.�e sas�+e �ime �nd h��9� ��x� ��a�* ��s�.3�gt� �r,ssia aver �� ye�xa as �.t m;�at to mee� �be co7.teg� �s��,�alz��a�? d�ai��.c�s. Tliis gar�icular block is ffl.I�d �umper to bcsffiper e�mas�: �er:.��,r�uousiy dr�rin� Ltie sGhaol s�s;�roz�.. '�ery o£eer► �here a�e 24-hour p�rl��rg �ared ��ry oz�ex� th� sC�dent w1I3. drive his e�r on weekends on�y. �is�uy �a�kin� spots Sr� accup�ed fi�e d�ys �t � �time. Mrs. AicGui�.-e aud h�r hubbend w�re �ot in ��nr�r o£ th� parki.�a�g lot Rn I967 b�� have s�.aace chang�d thei� mind�. �� {�resc�t, they he�� he suppart m� R� �s� �he �2 reCic3ents w{2o r�side b�tweea Fiesr+. 8nd Cretia ar�. S�Y.by. �Irs. �Ic�€�:��:ti �erd th� petit�an� which was m�de p�r� o� the fil�. �i�3. Ghar�u�:�:� Y+�c��:thy, 2i}3� Spxmmit l�v�nu�, not�d sh� i.� ia f�vnr �� the parki�g �.c��. S�e no�ed ahe fs no� ab1� L-a usE her front doox bec�use there ��e �Zwa�re cars p�rked fn f�an� o£ the h�use� C�rs have be�s� towcd aw�y b�r th� �'al�.ce becraus� the stud�nts �t times psxk ia f�cottt of �he garag� az� tE�e �lbey.` ��s froret csf her house �her� �s a twoMhour parking baBa, bv.t o�xe c�s �e�v�� na �r�other s?w�y� C�kes £ta p�ace_ Maray �f ti�ei� fr�.�ad� are c�ld�r �nd c�nnoe: walk f�r, but u�sC eze� rhe bacic dc�or. ��egr h�v� li^vecl 9.� �he a�e�tghboriao�d £or many, �any ye�rs and the �z�xes have a lwayes �,c��.� up bu� the v�l��s go dowc�. She wouid iike to e�aean�:��e � pa+rl�€xag xa� to be beaiF� on t�� o�.ge�� of St. Thcam�a� greur�ds. kt�. ,Aa�efi cacn�e��d �.f i,t Ea��a1d b� possable foz� �he dorm�tory s�ude�a�s to ��r� s t�.c4teru :Emz� �he�.a cai s. �is. T�.. ,i. P,.±��g�, � ai�nibe� of i:tze Calle�e admxnist��io�n, s�at�d �t.� ccas�ZrS r►erh�aps ria��f,y th� sicuaL�.� a �.�f.L-�l� msre. Mr, �,e��ge c�oted t�.� �3�r,�,:d h�d pxevs��=,s?Y ��aF��v�d �iv sua�Zi�r p��k3.ng �ots in ��ae axe�. �� al��g� �re��.�.�� ther� �s;� ��ar&3.ng p�oble� �nd �hei.r pfres��s �ow r�p��ser�� a s�:ncer� s3e��.�� tis� d� r�m�s�h�.n�g ��;zti �t, �`he �aJ.�.�g� dmes ��do�se � s�e�d brea�.er a� �ac�:�ea �'i��a ��:�-��. �,:�:w�•.re�, �I��.s ��a4c��.c3 b+� s�� ack f�r ��t�ug� �o e�;f.-i�rcc� � �raa�Y.ng ��:a� �es{s��: ��t °.:i��a:� i.: go�,mg �o b� a stop s�.�� `�h� �c��.7�g� �,.ys ��o ��a�ra�;�°�� s�n�ey fo� � [as�c�-��cariace. lat. `k"h� cres�io� rse � ��:�; 2.x�:: �:n:: ��y co3.�.�� a� ��;�oare � �.��ry, Lh� is��i�,�� :��. �h�as ��;: ��. c�t b�cl: �r� �2��.�ss �f $?.t�iE,�}(�G i:Ya�� Ye�r, ��.d c2'��.�r�g psYki�� sF�ces �s exp�x�s�jTe, 7'��e Cre�i� lsa�. w�� i�.cz��ased by a�r�e�th�.rdn �i�c p��3��.n� lot on ��r�e�.�r�c� ��rx�.� wsr ?� cars ��d ?s cu�res��.Zy �5, 'TI�..e �o��;� 'tc�s cre��rI tcao �ax�e gs�sge3 t�a provide ut�dercvv�r g�rlci�g fos as m�ny pra.:��s ��zc� �e�chers �s Ck��p c�n accaaa�t�cia��. "�he �calle�e p�o�ao�� tca xs�ue st�.c�c�?^s �a tt�e ��udents c2iad al.so ti� giv� �n� s�uden�s spee��'ie �pots �.n �rhich �h�y �� patk. �ny �tud��t u��.o �aa�ls� :�n �aathe� �ps�� ath�r �h�n �fs oean wil�. be ��.�d by �:h� �ca�_l+�ge. 'i'ize �41�� is R�.t�res�ed a,sa provici�.�g as :��ach p�rki�ag �s �aossib�.� �a� ?��id�n� st�:�:�rats. Irs z��rd �o �he over- flow f�u� �.h� �38•-ca�� a� u��.� �h� Cae�:kn ,��e;��sc� �ot, Mr. I��►gge s��.d t�e�r �eeE £.i�s�f: .:b�aa��:�r�n wwta�d .f.�z?�LY�.n� z.nf:�:��i.�- ��.� r.��ctw�.x�g �xr�b��s oza �� camp;YS ��d �.nte�as3.fy iG�'�fx�c ��e�i�1_s��s ��.c�r��; �;r.e�:�.n ��vPnuEY k'eopl� hav� f�c�.�.�;,�ut.y :�pott�� ats�� a�s �6'}CZTI?.rLS �r�ct�x�� p�rk;s,n.g r�z�� a�. +G�e�i� ��re�aueH �h��-e s��.a�,d �e � ��e:�y s��io�� q�w��o�as z��c t�� whr��h�x o� u�� t�a��► c��s�d vbt�im 4 ��:�a$�:. �."�::e�w a�� ?��.E� �� gartc�xsb :�.n r_h� a�e� �c�dr; �o �er�.�� <�t ��rt�-��ca�.�s :��;:n� wrc��:�+3 �mex°��sFe p:,��kix�g s�g�cws: �:� 6�!? ��t wctsld s:c►s� a.� �xcc�� sr.f �7�1t9,,!3�3E�a '��Z� :s:�;:��r ;�:� �_,�� x�or. �;ril� b.� ��.p�f.l��:.l�� p�.�. COLLEGS OF SAINT THOMAS (continaed) August 5, 197L A wanen frrnn the neighborhood who lives on PorClaad aad Cleveland, stated "No Parking" signs are posted on trees and the students igaore them. She hae chased so�e etudents away but other students igaore her, too. Mro Rogge said Che College wi11 urge the students to give due consideration to the neighbors and to obses�re the posting. Mr. Patrick Curran, 16?6 Marshall Avenne, aced Chairman of the Merriam Park ClCizens Comimittee, no�ed the Conmittee hmd a �eting and drafted �e letter regarding the St. Thom�� College situation. Mr. Curran asked that this lettez be read aloud ar�d become part of the racord for trenamittsl to the City Council. Mr. xoaetter read the letter dated AugaeC 3, 1971 which stated eupport far the parkiag lct. Mr. Donald J, Leyd�n. w�o is public relstione director for Che Coltege. aad La represeating Father Marphy at the meeting, s[�ted the plans will aesthetically improve the neighborhoo�:l. The first three conditions of the petition aup� portiug the proposal wi�.l be met; but the fourth condition, tlu t of providing overflow dorm4tory park:'.ng at existiag lots, is not acceptable to the adminis- tration of the Colle$e. He stated that St. Thomae College is one of the few colleges in America to provide on-campus parking for students. This is done to satisfy aot c�nly the neighbors bnt also the studenta. The ma,�arS.ty of the aeighbo�s would welcome the 88-car parking lofi. ktr. Bogge noted that behind the b�aseball fi�ld to the south there is an cuiueed badminton and volley bal� court. The College has not yet applied for ptr- mis�ion to make iC a parking lot but are prepared to allow �tudenta to use this area with the blesainga of the neighbarhood. Frank J� Murray, attorney. 400 Pioneer Building, epoke in oppositiona Ae noted the Merriam Par�C CoaamnniCy Council held a meeting and prepered a re:solution in opposition to the gsa�nting of the College's petitioa. Mr, Murray read the list of organizatioas which comprised the Merriam Park Community Cs�uneil. Mr, M�xrray noted he Iives at 2137 Selby Aveaue, alnooat across from the p�rking lat. He pr�seated � petition dated July 24. 1971 to the Board. He said it was signed by e great many people on Selby Avenue who are oppoaed to the parking lot. The petition was su'banitted as a part o£ the file ta be transmftted �o Couacfl. The loC should not be allowed. Mra �;nrray stated the students who �ttend St. Thomas College are told they can bring a car to the College. There wer� 6Q0 resident studente last yesr and ther�e are 400 nowe Mr. Rog$e said that College r�egulaeioas stipulate that upper classmen maq have cara aad may park on the campus. The College's lelter to the parente of the student� and to the fncomiag freshmen states that ownership and pos�essian of ,e car aPe discouraged, Mr, Murr,�y continwed by eta�ing this lot would accoamodate 88 cars but another 88 cara wou�d �ake their pl�ce an the�treet for parkiag. He noted he hsa lived in the area for 15 yeare acad has peraonal knawledge of what he ia talking about. Cars thst are parked on Se1by Avenue have inconvenienced the neighbors. People come from all around the City to tttend St> Thomas College. Selby Avenue has s lot of children living on it. This lot will «4� . � . . . , COLLEGE OF SAINT THQ�fAS (contiaued) August 5, 1971 only increese the number of cars because additional cars will tal�e the place of the 88 cars that will be parking in the lot. Mr. Parraato told Mra Murray that a parking lot would decrease property values, not increaae them. The parking lot is conaiderpd to be depressant of residential enjayment of property. Mr. riurray said he does not wish the achool sny ill will. As a property owner paying taxea, his rights, propexty and money are going to be used to sattefy tt�e needs of s few studente. He said the parking lot is proposed so that s few students rea hsve a place to park while the neighbors will have Che lot acxoss the street. Mr4 Murrsy noted he hsa paid a good share of the street improv�ments snd snow plowing; he deeply reseats that he is going to continue to do so in order that students from oetlying towns can psrk their cars in the parking lot and only attend fqr perhaps one semester. Wtten a situstion exists that studenta can have cara, the College is asking for this problem. Mr. Murray said he went to college in 1937 and there w�re no cars allowed then. Mr, Phillip McDonald, ?077 Selby Avenue, and President af the Merriam Park Co�mnunitq Council. stated a quorum was present at the meetfng in which th� resolution opposing the propos�el was sdopted. He esid opportunity exiats now to reduce the smount of traffic Chat is congesting the streets. Now is the perfect time, he said, to impl�ment a pooling program ar another meens of leaving cer� at hame and taking a bus. They are Crying to impr�es the MTC wiCh this situation, he said. He eiso noted thst a lette�e ha8 beea submitted to the Mayor and Council and the presa. Mro McDuaald read the letter dsted August 3, 1971 addressed to the Mayor. He noted the press was called in to the meeting because the Council knew they were fightin� a mamoth org�nization in St. Thrnnas College. They ere fighting for their homes and the safety of thetr children. They wish b avoid the parking lot so that ti.1� safety values and property valuea will not deter�.orate. If parkfng w��s provided for students on the campus� there would be no room for building;3 on the campus. Cars tha� are now parking several bL�octes from the campus wCll move up and p8rk closer 8nd there will atill be no apots aveilableo Th� sitc�tion will come to the point where residents will not be abte to move frum the area because they will not be able to obtain buyers for their hanes wi.th the advent of the parking iot. Ae said that 16 people who live on Sel'by signed the petition end ever since that tirne zhere have be�n six represt:ntatives from the Callege harrassing those residente in an attempt to get them to change their minds. The president af the College wrote a letter subsequent ro denisl of the matter and coamended the residents for their patieace in the matter and noeed that the problem could not be eolved. The C;ouncil has propoRed alternatives to the situation; there are grassy spots that could be conv�xCed t� parking lots, but the College does not listen, It was ewved by Y+Ir, McPartl'�n and .secondad hy Mra Mansur to approwe the pe•nuit for an 88-car parking lot. Mr. Mansur noted that much o� the questions *►.id srguments brought out aC the meeting are not matters fcr the Zoning Board t�ut rsther for the Po2ice Departsnent. If csrs are illegally parked, it is definitely a Police probl.em and they ahould be notif�ed. Mr. Man�ur wished to add to the motion t:hat the requests on the part of the neighbors' petition �n favar of the proposal should be complied with. The motion passed by a 4-0 vote. Submitted by: Psul L<. Rosezter Robert L� Ames, Chairman -5- Sept�ber 2, �,971. Befare �it� Couacil • (, . " . . . .. � , 'p � Eonorable I(syor �[c�artT aad M�bere of the CitT Co�cil oi St. P�ul: �i� aame is Fraak J. l�rra,�, attormey aad a resident on 5slbr A�►em�e. �acent to �he land ot Lhe applicant. . A aaaber o! per�0as, also res3denta on SelbT A�eane and e►d�a�e�at �o the land ef �he applicant� appear in opposftion to the grsntina of the a�plication aad in reeponse to the letter of A�st 2Bth last iroa Mrs. �t2er in which Me ars ad�is�d that pnret�t to the Citj Cha.rter re e►�y appear aad be he�ard. 11e ask that the a�pplfcation b� demied. �hi a i s a aeri o�� eat t er bef ore Toa a►nd b�csnse it i s seri�ree it fa cie�rly inctiunbeat npon the applicant to eetablieh that �l�t it is sesl�in� is aecessary. fsaeibl� and ia the pnblic iaterest and Melfare. It �is our �osition tbat ft �ras aot established the foregmina and that fa fect it cannot d0 so. I shall entliae a nndbsr oP poix�te Khich rfll be ezpaAded in - detsil by a�varal pmraone rho Ni12 apea�c to yo� on then, not aecessarily hoMever in the order im rhich I will atate t�es: Firet• aa to N�ceseit� - 1. There ia a�pl• partiag space oa the streeta for st�lent ft�icles se is alearly e�i.d.enced. b� the �n�r paat years of sgch p�r&in6. 2. The applicant, i� it has a problen, cr�ated it iteelt, a�d iP it hate oae, it � be re�ol�ed other th�►n Lhe wa�r set�t hsre #►��. i! cesn - e�. I+isft stndsat er�'s, ws s�gest the ase of �tblic transpertatioa. b. �nlar� ita Crstia-SYr�it lot rhich is slr�a�ety i� sxistance. l. � 3.�here apptara to be a decliae ia the n�ber oP raeident et�denta, accord.ing to the isfor�tios from the �pplicant. Sacond. �e to �'ea�ibilitT - It ia not fsasible - l. �he crea�tioa of the applied Per lot doss aoL aolve th� pmrkiag problem, if the�r4 is oa�, it m�rely crmet�s a proble�n or a greater one, a. Stndeate are aad vrill continue tv pa,rk on all aide �treets. b. AlI studeats are iaformed amd may hava automobiles. c. The exit ma l�im Street to Se�by snd the Finn �.nd. $elby roadNays are nsrrow. d. Preaeat on cenpue parkia6 fn the area ia e1I that $hot�ld be allowed for proper �otion a�d. safety. T h3rd.• It is not in the pablic intere$t aad Msliare - 1. A daxagerous f i re ht«ard r►oro�l.d be c reat ed.. 2. �'ereonal safety ie further 3eopardis�i by ad.ded traffic. 3. The lot aould be a property va�,lue depressant ia the area 4. It rou].d be unsightl�. 5. It Monld t�u�ther i�crease drainage and enow reaoval probleae in the pablic etreets. ite are supperted by: 1. The �Ierri�m Park Commv,sity Council, Inc. 2The ]6aecutive Co�aittee of the St. Paul Aeeocis�ion of Co�a�mity Councile. �. Ma� other rsaidenta of the erea�. 4. The re�ervatior�8 and canditione conta,ined in the Istters of t�tl Angust 3.. 2971� ��partment of Pnblfc Safety �o Mr. Heide�t,from 1�r.Con ; Z. • the letter of Auguet 2, 1971, �ron Mr. Peterson to ldr. H�iden and ths letter oP Jvly 30, 1971 fro�a Mr. Anderaon to ldr. Heidea. An ezaminatioa o! the�e lettars vhich I aasus+e ars in the file Mill xs�eal ths reser�atioae upoa which snq recommendation is �eads fa thf a �atter. Ia vie�+ of the astnre of these proceedi��s and so as not to uanecesesrily lengthea this hearing, four personffi Mho li�o on Selby A��nue Mill en2,arge upon the points Which T h;��e oatlia�d uul possibly on othsrs. A3.1 e! tl�s� pereon� do aad }aa�e li�ed oa Selby Avsnue acroa�s tro� the applican� for �ore thsn the past �ea ysare. Th�y ars: 1. t�r. Joseph �afang, 2099 Sel�b�c bvemx,p, a �,echni:.ca1 diz�ec�or .. � . • . . � ., Jt� . . . .. + . � . .� . .. .Y' . ._ , . for a �reil kaaan cospe�.n� in St.' Pan7.. 2. Mre. M. L. McDoaald, 2�77 Sel�r l�enue'. a house�wife. 3. l�tra. �eeeph Anfang, 2099 Selby A�enns, housewife �ad. Pr�eid�nt of the I+adise Auziliar�, 8i-f�roie �Post, �sterauis o! �'orei� War�. 4. Mr. Philip 1�IaDonalfl, enginee�, 2077 Selby A�sn�e� Trnetes oi St. Marke Farish and a ffismbar o! the periah achoo2 be�I.. 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PAUL,MINNESOTA 55101 • PHONE: 223-4151 August 31, 1971 Mr. Harry E. Marshall City Clerk 386 City Hall St. Paul, Minnesota 55102 Dear Sir: This is written in reaponse to the application af the College of St. Thomas for a permit to install an 88-car parking lot to be used in con�unction with the College, on property located nn the southwest corner of Finn Street and Selby Avenue, and noted in detail by the legal description on file. This matter was heard at the Auguat 5, 1971 Board of Zoning public hearing at which time those portions of the staff report were read which concerned the history of the aite, deaign atandards, the Traffic Engineer's comments and site and area conditions. Reports on file from the Traffic and Accident Section of the Police Department, from the Traffic Engineer's office and from the Fire Department reacting to the proposal were read. Mr. Harold R. Fotsch, attorney for the applicant, represented the proposal sa_ying the proposed lot is to be reserved for residents of the dormitories. He noted that many of these students now park on Selby Avenue often for in- definite periods even through snow emergenciea, and he said the parking lot would reduce the on-street perking. He said the plan retaina as much foliage as possible as well as providing new screen planting along the north side of the lot. Mr. Fotsch said they plan to provide additional screen planting along the west side and also a "speed breaker" near the stop sign before entering Selby Avenue. Several residenta of the area appeared on behalf of the application. They sub- mitted a petition supporting the proposal; and noting the on-street parking problem, stated that a parking lot would remove the cars from the street thus raising residential property values. Mr. Donald J. Leyden and Mr. L. J. Rogge, of the College's administrative etaff, elaborated on the plan. Mr. Patrick Curran, Chairman of the Merriam Park Citizen's Committee, presented from that Co�nittee a letter favoring the proposal which was read to the Board. Frank J. Murray appeared in oppoaition. He said the Merriam Park Cocrmiunity Council resolved to oppoae the permit. He preaented a petition in opposition as well. Noting that the Collegn allowe students to bring cars, he stated that more cars would replace thoae removed from the -atreet by this parking lot which, he said, would depresa residential property values. Mr. Philip McDonald, President of the Merriam Park Carrmunity Council, suggested that it is time to imp�emet�t a car pool or a bus riding campaign. 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College of �St. Thomas �E��D ��vF��-�U��' Install an 8$ car parking �ot LAND UJ�"_� PRESCNT ZONIf�!G � ��A�� Residence � -�Nf= FAMII_Y ,Q T W U F/1 iVl I LY fJ, THf-ZLC F�1MIL.Y PE'�li"10�� SIGN�:RS� . � FOUR FAM{LY �i9s ��MULTI-- FAP�IILY FILE No. �� • n COMMERCIAL . �� INDUSTRIAL . NORTIJ � St. Paul f'lannin9 Boord� Date July 2�, z9�1 �LL�� PROPERTY IN �1UESTlON r � e � MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEI�RING BEFORE THE BQARD OP ZONING On Thursd�y, August 5, I971 at 2:00 p.m. PRESENT: Mrs. Cochrane, Messrs. McPartl�n, Mansur of the. Board; and Messrs. Browa and Rosetter, and K, Kantorowicz of the staff. COLLEGE OF SAII�IT THQ�tAS: A permit to insCell an 88bcar parking lot to be used in conjunction with the College on property located on the southweat corner of Finn Street and Selby Avenue. Mr. Rosetter summarized the staff report, a part of the f�.le, by noting that an application for a 48-car parking lot on this aite was denied by the City Council on September 28, 1967. The proposed p,rking lot is in two sections sepsrated by a College building. The parking areas are ad�acent to an existing service drive .that provide� acceas to Selby Avenue at Finn Street. The plan, as submitted, meets the minimum design atsndard. The pwrking area ad�aceat to Selby Avenue with a slfght chsnge in lsyout and providing three less parking spaces would provide better access from the College service driveway. The Traffic Engineer reviewed the plan and noted that the entrancea to the parking area from the private road were too nar�ow for one-way operation. and angle parking would be more efficient for one-way operatione He coa�ented that this was the option of the applicant. A proposed revision designed by the staff would pravide wider entrance drives. The grade of the site is approximatel.y the same as the grade of Selby Avenue. Adjaining to the west is a baseball diamond and a practice area. East ecross the private road are tennis cocxrCs and studetat reaidence buildings. The sree to the north is predomfna�ely single-femily with some multi-family nses. The rest of the area is college campus. Reports were requested from the Traffic and Accident Section. Department of Public Safety; City Traffic Engineer; snd City of St. Paul Fire Chief. Mre Rosetter re�d the lette� on file framr�� Tsaffic and Accident Section dated July 30� 1971. Mr. Rosetter then reed the letter on file dated August 2� 1971 from the Traffic Eagineer which presented the traffic caunt increase expected from the proposed parking lot. Then Mr. $osetter repeated that the present traffic count average from the count conducted ou August 3 and 4 wes 6�� trips. He satd the Traffic Engineer hes indfcsted thet this is slightly above average wfth a typical connt on a residential street being 3-400 trips per d�y. Mr. Rosetter read the letter on file from Steve Conroy, Fire Chief. Represen.ting the applicant was Mr. Harold Ro Fotsch, 1400 Nor�hweatern National Bank Building. �Ir. Fotsch displayed s sketched map of the area before the Board. He noted th�t the parking problem has been csused by full-time residents of Dowling Hall, a dormitory on the campus. He noted thet 70-90 cars park fu11 time on Selby and Fina. The cars remain ore �he streets for 24 hours in many instances and it deprives residenta of the area of ptaces to park. Yn the winter time, there is a problem wi�h the "snow birds." The College is attempting to reduce the 24-hour on•street parker, he said. The day students usually come and go before chfldren sre getting out of school and before the people in the neighborhood come home from work. Mr. Fotsch pointed out that the neighbors' main objectian is to fu11-time students who Lesve their cars overnight on the streets and � -1- ' � ` COLILEGE OF SAINT THOIMAS (con[inued) August 5, 1971 cauae congestion. The proposed p�rking lot is to be reserved for residents of the dormiCorfes. The studenta woul.d be given permits to park in the lot end they will stric�ly en.force the parking ban �rlong vacated Fin�x Street. He noted there is a 47�car �arking lot oa the campus thst is used by teachers and priests. The plan as submitted ahows trees along vacated T�'inn Street. It ia the desire of the College to retain as meny tre�s es possible. The trees somewl�at narrow the entrence to tbe parking Lot itself but the intent is to leave as much foilage in ihe area as possible. A� additional suggestion that has been made, which the College is willing to go aloag with, is the placing of a speed breaker ahead of the stca� sign at Fian end Selby. In res�onae to a question frrnn Mr. Ames, Mr. Fotsch explained thaC a speed breaker is essenti�Lly s bump, raised a few inches from ehe pavement so that a caz c�nnot travel over it �t more thar� five miles per hour withaut d�msge. The plan also calls for screen h�dging slong Selby .�venue side to shelter the p�rking lot. The College is also willing to extend screeniag on the Cretin side to at lesst the power building. There is a grade of 6 feeC in height before it goes dowa ta the baseball fie�d. The College`s proposal meets �he objections as outlin�d previously. The College hopes they have a situation where the safet}� of the area residents has been increased. This will eliminate snowbirds during the wfnter time aad reduce travel for the 24-hoaar atudents who are trying to find places to park. The College feels it has added to the aeathetics of the area by creating the scre�n fencing. The cars which sCudents own are not alw�ys in the beat of shape and do not slways have B very nice a�pp�eranc�. The screening will aid in �liminat�.ng the unsi�htliness o£ the cars. R�sther than the p�rkiag lot depreciatin� the property valuee of the su�rounding land, if enything, it will appreciste because of the reduced aubunt of cars on the street and concentrate tha�m oa the perking lot. Mrs. Jolan Durben, 2165 Sr�lby �4venue, said there �re two petitions circulatiage She said she had been opposed to the parking Iat �nd signed the petitian before she found ont: all the fac�s. MrB. Durben ini�iated a second peti�ion supporting the proposed psrking lot, but she only had s chance to contact som� of the people in t�e area. She feels the parking lot cosald only be an asset to the neighborhoocl. • Mrs. Helen Mille�t, 2159 Selby Avenue, st�+�ed that Mr. Fotsch presented the situatioa very wellv She atated he understeted the number of snowbirds aad the length of time in which they are parked. Many times they have three-week snowbirds when thestudents go home for Ch�istmas v�cation, etce She feels the value of �he property is not going to go up if people see there is no place to p�rk in f�ont of the homes. The residents are vezy fortunate that the Colle;e geve them another chance. Order could be brought to the neigt►borhoad �.f 88 cars were to be taken off the street and placed in the park:�ng lot. Mr, C, �ushard;, 2057. Dayton ,Rvenue, stated S8 cars take� off ehe street would elimtnate the problem t�ey t�ave had in the past witih snowbirds. People who are not close to these problems �r� signing the pe�ieion, he s�id. Mra. Erma McGuire, 2I49 Se�by Avenue, noted she 1€ves ia the middle of the -7.- ` , v COLLF�B OF S�INT THOMAS (continued) August 5, 1971 b�ock between Fi�a and Cretin. They hx+ve lived in the area for quite snme time and have seen the College grow over the years as it must to m�et the college population demands. ThiB particular block is filled bumper to bumper almost continuously during the school sesston. Very often there are 24-hour parkers and very often the student will drive hie car o� weekenda only. Many parking apots are occupied five dsys at s time. Mr�s. McGui.re and her husband were not in t�cvor of the parkittg lot in 1967 but have siace changed their minds. At present, they have the eupport of 10 0£ the 12 residents who reside betwcen Finn and Cretia on 3elby. Mrs. McGuire read the petiCion, which was iaade pert of the file. Mrs. Charlotte McCarthy, Z037 Suumit Avenue, noted ahe is in favor o� the parking lot. She noted �he fs not able to use her front door because there aze always care perked in front of the house. Cers have been to�wed a�way by the Police because the atudents at timea park ia front of the garage in the altey. In front of her house there is a two-hour parktng baa, but one car Ieaves and anor.her a2ways takes its place. Many of their frienda are older and cannot walk far, buC must use the beck door. They have lived in the nefghborhoad for m�ny� many years and the taxea have always gone up but the v�tlues go dowa. She wonld Iike to eACOnrBge s parking lot to be built o� the Gollege of St. Thomas grounds. Mr. Ames wandered if it would be possible for the dormitory studeate to hsve stickers for their cars. Mr. L� J� Rogge, a member of the Callege adminiatration. stated he could perhaps cl�arify the situation a li�tle more. Mr. Rogge noted the Board had previously approved two smaller parking lota in the area. 7'!ie College realizee there are parking problems and Chefr efforts now zepreeent a siacere desire to do something about it. The College does endorse a speed breaker on vacated Y�'inn Street. However, thia should be set back far enough to evidence s �asr�ing �o peopLe that there is going to be a stop siga. The College has also appropriated money for a hmrd-surface, lot. The creation of a parking lot for any college ie almost a luxury. Lhe budget for Ste Thamas has been cut back in es�cess of $200,000 this year, and creating parking spaces is e�cpensive. The Cretin lot was increased by oae-third; the psrking lot on Clevelend Avenue was 27 cars and is currently 55, The College has cremted two l�rge garages to provide und�rcover parking for as many priests and teach�rs as Chey csn acconanodate. T'he College proposes to issue sticicers to the sCudents and also to give the atudents specific spota in which they are to paric. Any student who parks in aaother spat other than his own wilY be fined by �he College. The College is interested in providing as much perking as passible for resident atudents. In regard to the ov�r- flow from the 88-car lot nsing the Cretin Avenue lot, Mr. Rogge said they feel tha� situetion would further intensify the parking problems on the campus and intensify traf�ic problems along Cretin Avenue. People have factiouEly spoken about Ste Thamas erecting a parking rgmp on CreCin Avenue. There would be a very serions questions as to whe�her or not they could obtain e permit. There are 310 cars parking in th� area aow; to create a two-story x�mp would increase psrking spacea to 620 but would cost in excess of $900,000, The maney fs aot nor will be available. -3- � � Y COLLEGE OF SAINT THONIAS (continued} August 5, 1971 A waaen from the neighborhood who linea on Portland and Cleveland, etated "No Parkiag" signs are pasted on trees and the studeata igaore them. She haa chased some etudeats �way but other atudents ign,ore her, too. Mr. xagge said the College will urge the sCudente to give due consideration to the neighbors and to observe the posting. Mr. Patrick Curran� 1676 Marshall Avenne, and Chairman of the 1Ker�ciam Park Citfzens Co�ittee. noted the Coamittee had a meeting aad drafted a letter regarding the 3t. Th�as College situatioa. Mr. Curran ssked thet this Ietter be read aloud and become par� of the record for traasmittal to the City Council. Mr. Rosetter read the letter dated Aaguat 3, 1971 which etated aupport for the parking 2oC. Mr. Donald Je Leyden, who ia public relativns director €or the College, and is representing Father Murphy �t the m+eeting, sC�Ced the pl�ns will aestheticelly improve the neighborhood. The first three conditioas of the petition eup- porting the propoeat will be met; but the fourth conditien, that of providi�ag overflow dorml.tory parking at existiag lota. is not acceptable to the adminis- tratian of the College. Ae sta�ted that St. TEzomes College is one of the few collegea in America to provide on•campus parking for studenta. Thia is done to satisfy not only the neighbors but slso the atudents. The ma�ority of the neighbors would welco�oae the 88-car parlcing lot. Mr. Rogge aoted that behind the beseball field to the south thQre is an nnused badminton and nolley ball court. The Col�ege hae not yet applied for per- misaion Co make it e parking lot but are prepared to allr�w students to use thia area with the blessiaga of the neighborEtood. Frank Je Mnrraq, attorney. 400 Pioneer Building, spoke in opposition. Ae aoted the Merrism Park Com�unity Council held a meeting and prepared a resoLutian in oppoaitioA to the gsanting of the College's petitiocc. Mr, Murray resd the list of orgaaizetioae which comprised the Merriam Park Comaauaity Council. Mr. Murray noted he livea at 2137 Selby Avenu�, almvat across frcam the parking lot. He preseated a petition dated Julq 24. 1971 to the Board. He said it was signed by a great many people on Selby Avenae who are opposed �o the parking lot. The petitio�► was submitted ae a part of the file to be transmitted to Couacil. The lot should not be ellowed. Mro Murrsy staeed the s�ud�nts who attend St. Thamas College are told they can bring a car to the College. 1'here were b00 resident studenta lest yesr and ther� are 400 now. Mr, Rogg� said that College regulationa stipulaCe th�t uppez classmen msy have csrs and may park oa the campus. T[ie College's ietter to the pareats of the s�:udeats and to the incoming freshmen sto�es that owaership end possesai.oa of a ear �se disconraged. Mr. Murr�y continued by stating this lot would acco�odate 88 cgra but another 88 cars woald t�eke their place on thestreet for parking. He noted he hss lived in the area for 15 yeara and has personal knawledge of what he is talking about. Cars that are parked on Selby Avenue have tnconventenced the neighbors. People come fsom all around the City to attead St. Thames College. Selby Avenne has a lot of children living on it. This lot will •4- . , Harry E. Marshall, City Clerk -2- August 31, 1971 Subsequently, the Board heard a motion to recommend approval. The seconding motion noted that most of the opposition's concerns are matters for the Police Department for enforcing parking violations. It modified the motion to include those conditions included in the petition presented in favor of the permit. The motion carried by a vote of 4-0, Very truly your _ / � .� �j •�r � ,,:?�'.� PETER G� M�IETTA Secretary, Board of Zoning PJM:kk PLR Z.F. ��7198 Enclosures: Petition in favor Petition in oppoeition Letter & traffic count from traffic engineer Letter from Traffic and Accident Section Letter from Fire Dep�rtment s �� • R COLLF.GE OF SAINT THQ�lAS (continued) August 5, 1971 only increase the aumber of cars because additional cars will teke the place of the 88 cars that aill be parking in the lot. Mr. Parranto told Mr. Murrmy that a parking lot would decrease property valuea, aot iacrease them. The parkiu,g lot ia coasidered Co be depreseant of residcntial enjoyment of property. Mr. biurrey said he does not wish the achool any ill will. A�s a properey awner paying taxes, his rights, propertq and money are going to be nsed to satisfy Che needs of a few students. He said the partcing LoC is proposed so that a few students �an have a place to park while the neighbors will have the lot across the street. Mr. Marzay noted he hsa paid a good share of the atreet improvemeats and snow plowing; he deeply reseats that he is going to cocttinue to do so ia order that studeats from outlying towas can park their cars in the parking lot snd only attend fog perhsps one seanester. When a situation exista that etudents csn have cars, the College Ls asking for thia problem. Mr. Murray asid he went to coliege in 1937 and there were no cars allowed then. Mr, Phillip McDanald, ?077 Sel:by Avenue, and President of the Merriam Park ComnuniCy �ouncil. stated a quorum w�s present at the meeting in which thh reaolutioa opposing the proposal was sdopted. He said opportuaitq exista aaw to reduce the smount of traffic Chat is congestiug the atreets. Naw is the perfect ticne, he said� to implemeat a pooling program or another meane of teaving cars at hvme aad taking a bus. They are trying to imprees the MTC wtth this situation, he said. He also aoted that a letter has been submitted to the Mayor and CounciZ aad the prees. Mr. McDoaald read the letter dated Auguat 3, 1971 addressed to the Msyor. He aoted the press was called fn to the meeting because the Council kaew they were fighting a maawth orgauiz8tion fn St. Thomas College. They are fightiag for their hones and the aafety of thefs children. They wish b avoid the parking lot so that the safety values and property values will not deteriorate. If psrki�g was provided for students on the campua, there would be no room #or buildinga on the campus. Cars that are aow parking several blocks from the campus wi12 move up and park closer and there will still be no spots available. The situati.on will come to the point where residents will not be able to move from '�he area because t�ey will not be able to obtain buyers far their hames witl� the advent of the parking Ioe, He said thet 16 people who live on Selby r�igned the petftian end ever eince that time zhere have been six represent��tives from the CoZlege harrassing thoae residents in an attempt to get th�em to change their minds. Tfie president of the College wrote �s letter eu.bsequeat to denial of the matter and coa�ended the residents for their pal:ience in the matt�r and noted that the problem could not be solved. The Coun�cil h�s propcased alterastives to Che situetioa; there are gras�y spots that con.ld be converted tq parking lots, but the College doea not listen, It was moved by Mr. McParClin and _seconded by Mr. Manaur to approve the permit for sn 88-car parking 1ot. Mr. Mansur noted thaC much of the qaestions and arf;uments brought out at tEae meetiag are not matters fcr the Zoning Board but rather for the Police Dep�rtment. If cara are illegally parked, it is defini.tely a Police problem aad they should be notified. Mr. Mensur wished to adcl to the�motioa that the requeats on the part of the neighbars' petitioa in fa��or of the proposal ahould be complied with. The motion passed by a 4-0 vote. Submitted by: Paul Lo Rose�ter Robert L, Ames, Chairman -5- � ��`Y�4� S.i MERRIAM PARK CITIZENS COMMITTEE August 5� 1971 Board of Zoning City of Sto Paul 1010 Commerce Building St. Paul� Minnesota 55101 Gentlemen: The Merriam Park Citizens Committee recently reviewed the application of St. Thomas College for additional off street parking facilities for its students and faculty on the college campus at Finn and Selby. It is our considered opinion that the construction of this facility would benefit the community as well as the college. By taking the student�s cars off the street� a frequently voiced neighborhood objection would be eliminated. It would facilitate snow removal and aid in reducing traffic congestion. St. Thomas College has always been a good neighbor to Merriam Park and our executive committee unanimously went on record in support of their .reques.t. It is extremely regretable that religious prejudice has entered into the consideration of this application. Any educational facility� regardless of its religious affiliation, should receive identical treatment� and I am sure that the objections of the biggots will be considered for exactly what they areo Good planning would require an affirmative vote of this matter. The only point we request that you look into is the question ,��f the means of adequate ingress and egress to the parking area� and the install» ation of sufficient screen plantings to adequately preserve the estheta.cs of the area. Very truly yours, MERRIAM PARK CITIZENS COMMITTEE �� .... �� s��►�u.t.�c�� BY l-.� uu..L.r �- � j � . � �, CC; St. Paul City Council CC: St. Paul Dispatch cC Pioneer Press ` BOARD OF ZONING REPO�T AND�ACTION August 5, 1971 T'lat 'TaP ��19 Acting under Legislative Code Chapter 60 thru 64 ��T�� passed August 21_, 1922, as amended to January 27, 1971. � � f 7198 __.� 6324 � - � - � - College of St. Thomas I ,">' ' ' : i.'�:� , �__� Amendment � Appeal � Permit � i�ther ! X-1082 ! , . -,, ;�,;, Install an 88-car parking lot to be used �s in conjunction with the co]_lege � ` "" ' ` 'r' Southwest corner of Finn Street and Selby Avenue � ,�! • .,_,'• , ,. _ .. ��fi�> , See file !` '" ' '?�;:�' ' "A" Residence . ' . ^A.,�J r.��1 i ,�J :1'',.].: ;',, .., . "i:� ;,��nin� Cade Chap*_er: 60 Section; .23 Para�*raph: 4, 2 ��::�.? i i !r�.-rSI'I';AT�iOW F> RCYORT; D3te: 7/29/71 3ys PLR A. I�ISTORY: An application for a 48-car parking lot on this site was denied by the City Council on September 28, 1967. B. AREA ZONING: The entire area is zoned "A" Residence. C. DF.SIGN STANDARDS : The proposed parking lot is in two sections separated by a college building. The parking areas are adjacent to an existing service drive that provides access to Selby Avenue at Finn Street. The plan, as submitted, meets the minimum design standard. The parking area adjacent to Selby Avenue with a slight change in layout and providing 3 less parking spaces would provide better access from the college service driveway. D. FRONTAGE AND AREA: The site has a frontage of 82.75 feet along Selby Avenue and an area of approximately 40,450 square feet. � E. TRAFI'IC ENGINEER: The Traffic Engineer reviewed the plan and noted that the entrances to the parking area from the private road were tao narrow for one-way operation, and angle parking would be more effici.ent for one-way operation. He commented that this was the option of the applicant. A proposed revision would provide wider entrance drives F. �ITE CONDITIONS: The grade of the site is approximately the same as the grade of Selby Avenue. Adjoining to the west is a baseball diamond and a practice area. East across the private road are tennis courta and student residence buildings . G. AREA CONDITIONS: The area to the north is predominately single family with some multi-family uses, The rest of the area is college campus. H. REPORTS: 1) The Traffic and Accident Section, Department of Public Safety, has been requested to give its reaction to the proposal in terms of personal safety. 2) The City Traffic Engineer has been requested to supply information on the latest traffic count on Selby Avenue between Cleveland and Cretin Avenues, and also a projection of the traffic count based on tl�e installation of the parking lot. 3) The City of St. Paul Fire Chief has been requested to give his reaction to the questions concerning the adequacy of the campus road to accommodate fire-fighting equipment and the effect automobiles from the campus, parked on Selby Avenue, would have in routing fire department equipment along Selby Avenue. These requests were made by letter on July 27, 1971, and asked that a reply be made prior to the scheduled Board of Zoning meeting to be held on August S, 1971. 9� BOARD ACTION: To Recou�►end � Approval � Denial Council Letter Dated: Moved by , McPartlin Yeas Nays August 31, 1971 x Ames - Ch. Date of Seconded by: Mansur x Cochrane Hearing: x McPartlin August: 5, 1971 Secretary's remarks: Maietta x Mansur . Council Action: Benshoof Dooley Date: PrifreY 1 ' � � ��' � BOARD ��'� ZO:�iNG REPORT AND; ACTION A�i�;�i t 5, 1971 ' "I,��t 'ia p ��19 Acting under Legislative Code Chapter 60 thru 64 � ! `�� passed August 2?, 1922, as amended t� Janu�ry 27, 1971. � )� ! �; _ 7198 � 6324 � � � �� ` ��!• College of St. Thomas . . ; .:.' ;i �� Amendment � A X � �'}t:�er � Paeal ❑ Permit � X-1082 �--- - ---�-I , ,, ,,i, Install an 88-car parking lot to be used in conjunction with the college ' ` ' Southwest corner of Finn Street and Selbv Avenue , ' �f: _ : i I , �;:! � See f i1e � !':i,�l,�;�; ,":i�i�ix�` ,; ��A�� RES1deriCe ,`.:�: :'i ;,�r�in;t �wcin �hapter; 60 Section: .23 Paranraph i 4, 2 � . '�' r ; "w.;STi�';�'11`Z�� .LF'��RT� Date� 7/2_9/71 3y; PLR A. HISTORY: An application for a 48-car parking lot on this site was denied bv the City Council on September 28, 1967. I3. ARI,A ZONING: The entire area is zoned "A" Residence. C. DESIGN STANDARDS: The proposed parking lot is in tw� sections separatecl by a college building. The parki.ng areas are adjacent to an existing service drive that provides access to Selby Avenue at Finn Street. The plan, as suLmilted, meets the minimum design standard. The parking area adjacent to Selby Avenue with a slight change in layout and providing 3 less parking spaces would provide better access from the college service driveway. D. FRONTAGE AND AREA: The site has a frontage of 82.75 feet along Selby Avenue and an area of approximately 40,450 square feet. E. TRAFFIC ENGINEER: The Traffic Engineer reviewed the plan and noted that the entr��ees � to the parking area from the private road were too narrow for one-way operation, and angle parking would be more efficient for one-way operation. He commented that this ' was the option of the applicant. A proposed revision would provide wider entrance,,,driues r. STTF. GOHDiTIONS: Tl�e grade of the site is approximatel.y the same as the grade of Selby Av��nue. Adjoining to the west is a haseball diemond and a practice area. l�:ast across rhe= ��rivate road are tennis courte an� student residence buildings . G. AREA CONDITIONS: The area to the norCh is predominately single fa,ni.ly with some mulri-family uses. The rest of the area is college campus. H. REPORTS: 1) The Traffic and Accident Section, Department of Public Safety, has been requested to give its reaction to the proposal in terms oE personal safety. 2) The City Traffic Engineer has been requested to supply information on the latest traffic count on Selby Avenue between Cleveland and Cretin Avenues, and also a projection of the traffic count based on tl�e , installation of the parking lot. 3) The City of St. Paul Fire Chief has been rc�quested to give his reaction to the questions concerning the adequacy of the campus road to accommodate fire-fighting equipment and the effect automobiles from the campus, parked on Se1by Avenue, would have in rour_ing fire department equipment along Selby Avenue. 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