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CITY OF ST. PAUL FIOENCIL NO.
' ' OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
UNCIL RESOLUTION-GENERAL FORM
PRESENTED BY
COMMISSIONE �` DATF
RESOLVED, That the Council hereby ratifies and approves
the action of the Saint Paul Board of Appeals and Review for
the Housing, Building and Fire Prevention Codes pertaining
to the following listed properties and as shown by the
official minutes of said Board of Appeals dated October 13, 1971,
a copy of which, marked EXHIBIT "A" is attached hereto and
made a part hereof by reference:
Case No. Property Appellant
89-70-H 1899 Marshall Ave. Mrs . Patricia J. Jordan
71-71-B 78 East Sycamore St. Fred Gieske
66-71-B 973 Manvel St. Mrs . Mary E. Pewters
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Merle B. Lyons
Merle's Construction Co.
72-71-B American National Bank Transamerica Corporation
Building by
5th St. between Robert & Thomas F. Marshall
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COUNCILMEN Adopted by the Council 19—
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Mr. President, McCarty
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MIT3UTES OF TIiE MEETING ��,��y
S�INT PAUL BOARD OF APPEALS
Wednesday, October 13, 1971
Basement, Bureau of Health, 555 Cedar St. - 1: 30 p.m.
Members p�esent: Donald Wozniak, Chairman
Artnur Tieso, Vice Chairman
Raymond Grove ,
� Mitchell Kamin
Estyr Peake
Norma Sommerdorf
James Voi gt
�gencies present: Bureau of Health Frank Sta�fenson
Bureau of Public Buildings - Glenn Erickson
Bureau of Fire Prevention - Dan Norrgran
- Walter Shimek
- Edward Heinen
_ H� - Ken Gauthier
Phalen Area N.I.P. -- Jack Mell
Others present: Thomas Anderson, Patricia Jordan, Robert Shea,
James �tiThittier, Fred Gieske, Merle Lyons , Joseph Knoll, Sidney
Feinberg, Tom Marshall, Mr. & Mrs . George Kastelyns
The minutes of the September 22, 1971 mee�ing were approved as
mailed.
57-70-H 2347 Chilcombe Ave. Gertrude J. Hayes
PRIOR HEARING: Augus t 26 , 19 70 .
Mr. Staffenson reported that the property w as found to be in total
campliance upon r�inspection.
The file was ther�fore c?osed.
89-70-H 1899 Marshall Ave. Mrs . Patricia J. Jordan
PRIOR HEARING: November 18, 1970 .
SUBJECT: Illegal third floor occupancy as indicated in letters
dated August 22, 1969 and June 19 , 1970 from the St. Paul Bureau
of Health to Patrick Jordan.
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APPEARANCES : Mrs . Patricia J. Jordan, Robert Shea.
PROCEEDINGS : The "Memorandum of Appellant" was perused by each
member of the board. Pictures of the third floor apartment and
exterior of the home were also examined.
ACTION: Motion by Tieso to waive Section 54.15 (3) of the St.
Paul Legislative Code that no wood frame dwelling or multiple
dwelling be occupied above the second floor for living or sleeping
purposes except where the original construction provided for such
type of occupancy. Such waiver is granted to permit continued
occupancy of the third floor apartment and is granted on condition
� that a proper exit from the third floor apartment to the exterior
of the building be provided in accordance with the requirements
of the St. Paul Building Code and that a fire escape from said exii:
and continuous to grade level be provided in accordance with the
requirements of the St. Paul Building Code,
Seconded by Sommerdorf. �
THE VOTE: Ayes : Tieso, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Voigt.
Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried six (6)
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71-71-B 78 East Sycamore St. Fred Gieske
SUBJECT : Illegal 7' 3" ceiling height. St. Paul Legislative Code
requires a 7' 6" minimum ceiling height.
APPEARANCE5 : Fred Gieske.
PROCEEDINGS : Mr. Gieske explained that a false ceiling had to be '
put in in order to cover certain plumbing pipes . To put the pipes
into the existing ceiling would have weakened the ceiling joists.
ACTION: Motion by Grove to waive Section 34 .01 (b) of the St. Paul
Legislative Code which requires a clear ceiling height of 7' 6" .
Such waiver is granted to permit a 7' 3" ceiling height.
Seconded by Peake.
THE VOTE : Ayes : Tieso, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Voigt.
Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried six (6) to
zero (0) .
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66-71-B 973 Manvel St. Mrs. Mary E. Pewters
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Merle B. Lyons
Merles Construction Co.
SUBJECT: Requirement of Section 40 .00 (i) of the St. Paul Legis-
lative Code that any garage which is to the rear of the residence
shall not be closer than two (2) feet. to the side lot line.
APPEARANCES: Mer1e B. Lyons.
PROCEEDINGS : The present garage wHich is a double garage was
built on the property line with a center divider or bearing wall.
The request is to rebuild the garage as it exists . The adjoining
neighbor has agreed to permit the rebuilding.
ACTION : Mation by Voigt to waive Section 40 .00 (i) of the St. Paul
Legislative Code that requires a garage to the rear of a residence
to be no closer than two (2) feet to the side lot line. Such
waiver is granted to permit rebuilding of the garage as it now
exis ts .
Seconded by Kamin.
THE VOTE : Ayes : Tieso, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Voigt.
Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Mation carried six (6) to
zero (0) .
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6fi-71-P 414 Sherburne Ave. James N. Whittier
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Thomas-Dale N.D.P.
SUBJECT: HRA inspection reports of April 28, 1971 and August 4 ,
1971 setting forth Housing and Building Code deficiencies at
414 Sherburne Averiue.
APPEARA�vCES : James Whittier, Ken Gauthier.
PROCEEDINGS : Mr. Whittier said the total income of he and his
wife is $200 .00 per month of which $55.00 is paid for a house-
keeper. Mr. Gauthier explained that the property will not be
acquired. The amount of work to be done is over the $3,500
grant limit. The grant can be processed if the matter is
brought before the appeals board and if �he owner can da some
things to assist.
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ACTION: Moved by Tieso to waive the filing fee.
Seconded by Kamin.
TAE VOTE: Ayes : Tieso, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Voigt.
Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried six (6) to
zero (0) .
ACTION : The matter was continued to the next regular meeting of
the board to permit compilation of a list of code requirements to
be waived.
67-71-P 604 Case Avenue Mr. Joseph Knoll
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Phalen Area N. I.P.
APPEARAr10ES: Joseph Knoll.
SYNOPSIS: The applicants are forty-nine (49) and forty-four (44)
years old. They are owners of a duplex used as a single family
dwelling unit at 604 Case Avenue in St. Paul. Mr. Knoll is dis-
abled and his wife is employed by Idea1 Brass Company. They are
also receiving aid from the Ramsey County Welfare Department. The
combined gross income for Mr. and Mrs . Knoll is three hundred
twenty-eight ($328..00) dollars . This money is used to support
six (6) dependents ranging in age from one year six months (1-1/2)
to fifteen (15) years old. This structure has several code
deficiencies . Mr. Knoll has made some corrections himself. Cost
of repairs is ab out seven �thousand ($7,000 .00) dollars . The
owners cannot handle additional loan payments .
ACTION: Motion by Tieso to waive the filing fee. a
Seconded by Kamin.
THE VOTE : Ayes : Tieso, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Voigt.
Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried six (6) to
zero (0) . .
ACTION: Matter carried over for two weeks to permit Mr. Me�ll
t'o inquire if Mr. Knoll would be eligible for additional Social
Security benefits .
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Mr. Wozniak arrived.
69-71-P 812 East Hyacinth Ave. Mrs . P. Lewandowski
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Phalen Area N. I.P�
SYNOPSIS : Mrs . Lewandowski is eighty (8Q) years old and is a
widow. She feels that some of the code items that were called
for need not be done. She was uncooperative with our Rehabilitation
Advisor and said that she did not want to be bothered again.
. ACTION: Motion by Tieso to waive the filing fee. Further moved
by Tieso to waive the requirements of the St. Paul Housing and
Building Codes for as long as Mrs . P. Lewandowski resides in
said property on condition that a ha�drail be installed on the
basement stairway, that a safety-relief valve and a gas shut-off
valve be installed on the hot water heater and that a gas shut-off
valve be installed on the gas appliance in the dining room.
Seconded by Grove.
THE VOTE : Ayes : Tieso, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Voigt,
Wozniak. Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motio7 carried
seven (7) to zero (0) .
70-71-P � 685 Jenks Ave. Belva Barry
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Phalen Area N.I .P.
SYNOPSIS : The applicant is owner occupant of a dwelling at 685
Jenks Avenue of Saint Paul. Mrs . Barry lives with her mother who ,
is seventy-one (71) years old. Her mother is a semi-invalid. Mrs .
Barry claims that she and her mother do not need any assistance
from our program. She stated that they can manage by themselves .
ACTION: Motion by Tieso to waive the filing fee.
Seconded by Kamin.
THE VOTE: Ayes : Tieso, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Voigt,
Tniozniak. Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried
seven (7) to zero (0) .
ACTION: Mr. Kamin said he knew the woman and would attempt to
talk with her about the program.
The matter was carried over to the next regular meeting of the board.
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72-71-B American National Bank Building Transamerica
Sth 5t. between Robert and Minnesota
Minnesota Streets Corporation
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Thomas F. Marshall
SUBJECT: Section 14.02-1-i of the St. Paul Legislative Code
. which requires sprinkling systems in parking garages when the
stories above are occupied.
Section 8. 04.2 of the St.. Paul Legislative Code which requires
design of buildings for business occupancy of no less than 80
pounds per square foot. Section 8. 04 . 4 of the St. Paul Legislative
Code which requires provision for weight unless the design live
load exceeds 80 pou�~�ds per square foot.
Section 14.02-1-d of the St. Paul Legislative Code which requires
access openings to be located every 50 feet along one side of the
bui ldings . '
NFPA No. 88-1968 which requires exhaust ventilation for garages
of 3/4 C.F.M. per square foot of the floor area.
APPEARANCES : Thomas F. Marshall, Sidney Feinberg.
PROCEEDINGS : Mr. Wozniak became acting chairman.
Mr. Marshall explai,ned that they are requesting permission to
design for 85 pounds per. square foot total live and partition loads
in lieu of 80 pounds per square foot plus partition loading of
20 pounds per square foot. The 85#/sq. ft. total load would
exceed requirements of Uniform Building Code by at least 10 P.S.F. ,
and conforms to requirements of present code provision 804-4 -
"in office buildings or other buildings where partitions might be
subject to erection or rearrangement, provision for partition '
weight shall be made . . . unless the design live load exceeds
eighty (80) pounds per square foot" in their opinion. Mr. Voigt
said he saw no problem with this request.
ACTION: Motion by Wozniak to waive Section 8.04 .2 of the St. Paul
Legislative Code which requires design of buildings for business
occupancy of no less than 80 pounds per square foot and Section
8. 04. 4 of the St. Paul Legislative Code which requires pro-
vision for partition weight unless ths design live load exceeds
80 pounds per square foot to permit construction as requested.
Seconded by Voigt.
THE VOTE : Ayes : Wozniak, Grove, Kamin, P�ake, Sommerdorf, Tieso,
Voigt. Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried seven .
(7) to zero (0) .
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PROCEEDIIJGS : Mr. Marshall said the St. Paul Code indicates that
sprinkler system should be installed in parking ga'rages where
stories above the garage are occupied for other uses , presumably
to protect the higher occupancies from a garage fire. Trans-
America Corporation requests acceptance of either (a) a four-hour
rated floor structure separating the two occupancies , or (b)
A sprinkler system installed only under that portion of the
separating floor common to both occupancies , as shown on the
, drawing, which would accomplish the intent of the code provision.
Code requirements for access (St. Paul 14.02-T-d) would be met.
No sprinkler system would be required under Uniform Building Code.
. Mr. Heinen said the hoses would have to be dragged for one-half
block to get near a fire. Mr. Norrgran said an oven effect is
created when the corner entrances are closed and a fire exists .
A sprinkler system would elimi.nate major fires. Mr. Marshall
said the cost differential to install a total sprinkling system
is approximately $100 ,000 .Q0 . Mr. Norrgran said he sees no
compromise for a total sprinkling system. He said the fifty
proposed openings would not satisfy the St. Paul Code. Mr. Marshall
said the ventilation would prevent the heat buildup suggested by
Mr. Norrgran. The proposed openings are to be 20" wide and go
from top to bottom. They are louvered and not considered access
routes. Much of the parking wi 11 be in-house. The tower portion
of the building is about 150 ' wide; the remaining area is about
35 ' . There is about 12 ,000 square feet of unsprinklered area
under the tower.
ACTI'ON: Motion by Tieso to waive Section 14 .02-1-i of the St.
Paul Legislative Code which requires sprinkling syster.ts in parking
garages when the stories above are occupied. Such waiver is
granted on condition that floors 3, 4 and 5 each be sprinklered
totally beneath and to the east of the towered occupancies as
illustrated by said drawings . �
Seconded by Sommerdorf.
THE VOTE: Ayes : Wozniak, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Tieso,
Voigt. Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried seven
(7) to ze ro (0) .
PROCEEDINGS : Mr. Marshall said there is no garage ventilation re-
quirement in the St. Paul Building Code, National Building Code or
Uniform Building Code, but the NFPA No. 88-1968 pamphlet calls for
exhausting of 3/4 C.F.M. per square foot of f loor area. Trans-
america Minnesota Corporation requests a waiver of this requirement
for the following reasons : (Z) We are presently operating seven
buildings with enclosed garages having vertical slot ventilating
louvers on two or three sides similar to those proposed for this
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project, dependent on natural ventilation only, and have never had
a trace of accumulation of carbon monoxide fumes . (2) To move
the required amount of air would mean circulating outside subzero
air through the garage, compounding the cold weather problems .
(3) As is evident at the new First Plational Bank addition, the
noise pollution from the exhaust system is highly objectionable
and deteriorates an otherwise pleasant downto�,an area. (4) Trans-
america Minnesota Corporation feels a performance criterion would !
serve all better in this case, and will Stipulate that we will
install a ventilating system if tests under operation of the
garage indicate a carbon monoxide level exceeding Board of Health
recommendations . The Owner will perform such tests at his expense
� and submit results to the Building Department to their satisfaction. '
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ACTION : Motion by Wozniak to waive NFPA No. 88-1968 which requires .
exhaust ventilation for gargages of 3/4 C.F.M. per square foot of
floor area subject to the performance criterion stipulated in '
the appeal.
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Seconded by Peake. �
THE VOTE: Ayes : Wozniak, Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Tieso, 1
Voigt. Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried seven �
(7) to zero (0) .
The portion of the �appeal concerning access to the parking floors
was dQferred pending possible resolution of the matter with the �
Fire Department. '
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58-71-P 782 East Hawthorne Ave. George J. Kastelyns -
PRIOR HEARING: September 22 , 1971
SUBJECT : Letter of Housing and Building Code deficiencies dated
July 29 , 1971 to Mr. Kastelyns from the Phalen Area N. I.P, in-
ability to qualify for a rehabilitation loan and grant.
PROCEEDINGS : Mr. Kastelyns said a bid to do the total work amounted
t•o $10 ,000 . A bid to correct the foundation and basement amounted
to $4 ,744. 40 . He can borrow up to $350 on security. The Ramsey
County Legal Department advised Mr. Kastelyns to get out from
under it. He would like to sell the property to the city. He
would have no down payment for another house. The $115 per month
payments includes taxes .
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ACTION: Motion by Wozniak to return the matter to the Phalen Area '
N.I.P. for possible assistance.
Seconded by Kamin.
THE VOTE : Ayes : Wozniak , Grove, Kamin, Peake, Sommerdorf, Tieso,
Voigt. Nayes : none. Abstentions : none. Motion carried seven
(7) to zero (0) . -
Meeting adjourned at 5 :10 p.m. �
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, CITY OF ST. PAUL FC�OLENCIL N�cSS�
OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
COUNCIL RESOLUTION—GENERAL FORM
PRESENTED tY
COMMISSIONER ^AT�
�tBSOLVSD, That the Council hereby ratifies and approves
the a�ction of the Saint Paul Board of Appeals and Review for
the I�ausinq, Building and Fire Prevention Code� pertaining
to the follawing listed proparties and as �ha�n by the
official minutes of said Board of Appeals dated October 13, 1971,
a copy of which, marked EXHIBIT "A" is attached hereto and
made a part hereof by =eference:
Cas_ e No. Property Appellant
89-70-�i 1899 Marshall Ave. Mrs. Fatricia J. Jordan
71-71�-B 78 East Sycamore St. F�ed Gieske
66-71-8 973 Manvel St. Mrs. Mary E. Pewters
by
Merle B. Lyons
Merle's Construction Co.
72-71-�8 American National Bank Trans�zn�rica Corporation
Building by
Sth 3t. between Robert & Thomntis F. Mar�hall
Minneeota Streets
Nov a 197�
COUNCIL�EN Adopted by the Council 19—
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Mr. President, �cCarty