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BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the February 11,
2003, decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Appeals for Letters of Deficiency, Correction Orders,
Conection Notices, and Sunmiary Abatement Orders for the following addresses:
Propertv Ap eu aled
2252 Falcon Avenue (Rescheduled from 1-28-03)
(withdrawn)
Ak elp lant
Judy Martinez
763 Minnehaha Avenue West Leslie Lucht
Decision: 1) Variance granted on the height of the front room in the basement on the following condition:
only people 5'6" or shorter should live in that space. This variance is only effective for the duration of Elizabeth
and Leslie LuchYs ownership. 2) A sign is added to the outside of the side entry door stating "Caution, Narrow
Landing, Steep Stairs." 3) The building will otherwise be maintained in compliance with a11 applicable codes
and ordinances.
1554 Bush Avenue Jaime Dela Torre
Decision: Appeal denied on Vehicle Abatement Order dated January 28, 2003.
RESOLUTION
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469 Whitall Street Kevin R. Johnson
(withdrawn)
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Approving the February 11, 2003, decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Appeals for
Letters of Deficiency, Correction Notices, Correction Orders, and Summary Abatement Orders
for the following addresses: 2252 Falcon Avenue, 763 Minnehaha Avenue West, 1554 Bush
Avenue, and 469 Whitall Street.
RECOMMENDqTION Approve (A) or Reject (R) PERSONALSERVICE CONiRAC75 MUSTANSWER iHE FOLLOWING QUf57ION5:
t. H� this person/firtn ever vrorked under a conhact for this depaRmerit')
PtANNINGCOMMISSION VES NO
CIBCOMMITTEE 2. Hasthispereavfirmeverbeenacilyempbyee9
CIVILSERVICECAMMISSION vES No
3. Does fhis Pe��rm DD�� a sldli not iwm�alb0��ed M' anY wrteM cilY emWoyee?
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INITIATING PROBLEM ISSUE, OPPORTUNI7Y (Who, What, When, Where. Why)
ADVANTAGESIFAPpROVED
DISADVANTAGES IFAPPROVED
DISAWANTAGES IF NOT APPROVED
TOTAL AMOUMT OF TRANSACTION S COST/REVENUE BUDGETED (CIRCLE ONE) YES NO
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NOTES OF THE LEGISLATIVE HEARING
ON LETTERS OF DEFICIENCY, CORRECTIONS ORDERS,
CORREC'ITONS NOTICES, AND SUNIMARY ABATEMENT ORDERS
Tuesday, Febniary 11, 2003
Room 330 Courthouse
Mazcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
The meeting was called to order at 1:40 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Officer Dean Koehnen, Police Department (assigned to Code Enforcement);
Lisa Martin, Code Enforcement
2252 Falcon Avenue (Rescheduled from 1-28-03)
Mazcia Moermond stated that the correction order has been withdrawn per an e-mail from Craig
Mashuga (Code Enforcement) indicating a plan has been worked out.
(withdrawn)
118 Litchfield Street
Lisa Martin reported that she is not sure why this issue is being appealed. Back in November,
Mr. Steinhauser had 21 issues on a Correction Order. All of them ha�e been taken care of, and
he has done a good job of complying with the orders. Now, he has a tenant who has interior
sanitation issues. There was a child at home missing school due to lice. Ms. Martin would like
to get back into the unit to inspect and make sure the occupant has cleaned up the conditions of
that unit for the safety of her child and herself, and to get them help if they need it.
The following appeazed: Frank Steinhauser, owner; Patricia Whitney, attorney for Mr.
Steinhauser; and Sarah Anderson, Project Hope, advocate for the tenant.
Ms. Whitney explained that the tenant is at wark and the tenant's attorney could not attend
because she has another hearing. They aze here because Mr. Steinhauser has been issued a
Correction Notice. The only item on the notice is for interior sanitation, which falls under
Secfion 34.16 of the Saint Paul City Code. This is not a landlord responsibility, but an occupant
responsibility. That is the main reason they have appealed. It is not Mr. Steinhauser's obligation
to clean up his tenanYs apartment, but he has received notification and order to do so. On the
correction notice, the occupant herself has not been given written notice. It was sent to 188
Litchfield, and that address has nothing to do with 118 Litchfield. It is a violation of the tenant's
right to privacy under the state statute if Mr. Steinhauser were to interFere in her basic household
without evicting her. The eviction process would take longer than what the City allowed for the
cieanup, which is another reason they filed an appeal. Finally, the inspection itself is an issue
because neither Mr. Steinhauser nor the tenant gave the City access. The tenant was at work.
Ms. Whitney wonders if this is an issue of the City breaking or entering or if they obtained
entrance by a minor child. ff the City wanted to deal with Chiid Protection issues, there is a
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depaztment for that. The only jurisdiction the City has is under Saint Paul City Code 34.16, and
they did not follow the requirements of that.
Ms. Moermond asked about the original inspecrion. Ms. Martin responded there was a complaint
on the property. There were two small children at the property alone being chased by a
doberman pinscher. She called auimal control. They contacted the mother at work.
Ms. Moermond asked was the doberman pinscher in the yazd at 118 Litchfield. Ms. Martin
responded it was ruiming around in the front chasing the four year old and ten year old. The ten
yeaz old was at home watching the four year old. After getting the children inside, they contacted
the mother at work to discuss the living conditions. They gave her the benefit of a doubt and did
not piace the children with Child Protection. They asked her to clean up her unit and put away
all medication.
Ms. Moermond asked how they obtained access to the unit. Ms. Martin responded the ten year
oid who was in control of the property at the time let them in. Ms. Martin had an understanding
with the tenant that she would take care of things, and this would not happen again. At that
point, Ms. Martin scheduled to come back and do a reinspection. On January 7, they did a
reinspection with Mr. Steinhauser who obviously did not inform his attorney that he let them into
the unit at that time. He explained to them that the child was home alone and that he had one of
his workers working on some of the items there. That is when they found out the little boy was
home with lice. Ms. Martin and Mr. Steinhauser had a conversation about the sanitation issues
upstairs, and she informed him she would be sending him a copy of the letter, and that she was
asking the tenant to clean the interior of her apartment. It was not his responsibility, but she
wanted him to know that she would be sending this letter.
Ms. Moermond asked Mr. Steinhauser if this is consistent with his recollection. Mr. Steinhauser
responded no, he was not at the property on January 7. The day they inspected it was
Wednesday, December 17, for the sign off on the repairs that were done.
Officer Koehnen asked Mr. Steinhauser if they did not physically meet him at the property when
the workers were already in the upstairs unit. Mr. Steinhauser responded they were there, but on
a different day.
Ms. Martin asked did he let them into that unit. Mr. Steinhauser asked is she referring to January
7.
Officer Koehnen asked if they met him in front of the properiy where his workers were in the
unit, at which time they discussed him having issues with them writing up the correction. Mr.
Steinhauser responded he did let them into the apartrnent whenever they came back to inspect.
Ms. Whitney added that was December 17, 2002, which was one week after they were at a
previous Legislative Hearing on December 7.
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Officer Koehnen stated he does not believe Ms. Whitney was at the property during the
inspection. Ms. Whitney responded that she was not, but she did negotiate via fax the inspection
dates. They did not negotiate January 7.
Ms. Moermond asked about the tenant working today. Ms. Anderson responded she works from
5 a.m. to about 4:30 p.m.
Ms. Moermond asked is the tenant aware that there is a Correcfion Notice to clean up the unit.
Ms. Anderson responded yes. She was in the tenant's unit on the day they were out to inspect on
December 17. They made the tenant come home from work, but she does not have vacation, sick
time, or leave time. She does not get paid for leaving work. She was told what needed to be
done. The cop was very rude to her and commented on a toy squirt gun that was on the floor and
told her that guns kill. What her children play with is between her and her children, said Ms.
Anderson. They told her they would be back to reinspect on that Monday. Her client took that
Monday off work to sit at home and wait for them to show up. They never showed up. Her
client missed a full day of work. She feels they pushed there way in when her children were at
home. She thought her ten yeaz old could be there during the day with her four yeaz old. Since
that has happened, the apartment has been cleaned up. Ms. Anderson has been in the unit. It is
not spotless, but the tenant is raising three boys and she is single. The three boys are doing
whatever they want until their mother gets home. When she gets home, the place is cleaned up.
On Saturday, Ms. Anderson did a surprise inspection. Again the house was not spotless, but it
was not a filthy mess. Ms. Anderson does not know what it looked like when the inspectors were
there, but she was there after the tenant was told to clean it up. As for the pills on the
entertainment center, the four yeaz old is usually not there. Her client has a ten year old that
needs to be on medication, and she leaves the medication on the entertainment center because he
needs to take that pill when he gets home from school in the afternoon. She is not there to give it
to him. She did take off all the medication, but she does leave one pill on the entertainment
center.
Ms. Moermond asked to see the Code Enforcement file and the photos. She is interested in any
inspection dates.
(A photograph was submitted.)
Ms. Martin stated she and Mr. Steinhauser have different dates, but the facts still remain that this
is a properiy in which the tenant is in distress and needs some help. Had she known that Ms.
Anderson was there to help her, they could have worked with her, but they never heard from her
nor the tenant. At this point, Ms. Martin is asking to do a reinspection. The tenant has been told
verbally. It does look like there was a mistake made on the notice given to the occupant; 188
Litchfield is a typographical error, but she has had verbal warning since November that the home
needed to be cleaned up. Ms. Anderson responded they did not show up for the reinspection, and
the tenant complied. The inspectors were there December 17 and said they would be there the
following Monday. Ms. Martin responded that Bonnie Frederick (tenant) told her that she would
not be home, her son is 24 years old, and there is another roommate. Ms. Martin is not sure
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where the other children come in. The child that they met claimed he was the only child there.
He was a ten yeaz old named Nicholas. The adults there can help pick up as well as the ten yeaz
old. Again, Ms. Martin is asking that they be able to go back in and verify. If it was cleaned up
back then, it should stili be clean at this point.
Ms. Moermond stated it is unfortunate the occupant address is listed as 188 Litchfield as opposed
to 118 Litchfield; however, it is clear from her conversation with Ms. Martin and Officer
Koehnen that the tenant was awaze there was a conection order and correction dates. Ms.
Whitney responded she knew from the begimiing that Ms. Anderson and Lega1 Aide were
representing this client, but they did not inform her until after the expiration of the orders. They
never received it.
Ms. Moermond asked if she is representing Legal Aide or another organization. Ms. Anderson
responded she is a community advocate that puts the homeless back in housing and makes sure
they stay in housing. Bonnie is her client that she placed with Mr. Steinhauser. Ms. Anderson is
not an attorney, but she is here on behalf of her client. Ms. Whitney added that Ms. Anderson
works with Project Home, which is an arm of Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services
(SMRLS).
Ms. Moermond asked has Bonnie secured the services of SMRLS. Ms. Anderson responded she
has. Her client feels she has been harassed. It states on the Conection Notice that they were
there on January 7. No one was home. The kids were in school. Those records can be checked.
She was in court, and that record can be checked. And she was at work, she punches in and out,
and that can be proved. If the inspectors were in there on 7anuary 7, they entered without
anyone's permission. Officer Koehnen responded they do not practice breaking into units. Ms.
Anderson responded she did not say that they did. Either they went in there without permission
or the correction item was what they had seen prior. Either way, that statement is false.
Ms. Moermond stated the issue is moot in a way. If the inspection was on December 17, and the
reinspection was a week later, she would expect that the conditions were sanitary on January 7
and that it would get clean and stay clean. It appears the conditions did warrant the Correction
Notice to be issued. It is the tenant's responsibility to keep the apartment sanitary. There clearly
are owner responsibilities for the overall property maintenance.
Ms. Moermond denied the appeal. She will handle this in an expedited fashion, so the appeal is
concluded at the City Council level, and she can get a reinspection done. Hopefully that can be
rescheduled now or in the near future, so everyone is on the same page about when the inspection
wiil happen. The inspection should occur when the tenant can be there or could arrange for
someone to be present in order to affirm that it is all taken caze of.
Since Ms. Anderson is representing the tenant, Ms. Martin suggested setting up a time and date
today to do an inspection within the next week. Ms. Anderson responded she cannot do that until
she has spoken to Bonnie to see if someone can be at the unit or if there is a day she can go into
work later or get off eariy. Ms. Anderson has no problem calling Ms. Martin later.
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Ms. Moermond stated it seems reasonable that this reinspecrion be done within the next seven
days.
Ms. Moermond's decision is as follows: The appeal is denied. A reinspection will be done by
Wednesday, Febiliary 19.
�63 Minnehaha Avenue West
John Betz reported his office was informed there was a problem in the lower unit, where there
was a bedroom in the basement that lacked heat. He inspected the properiy on January 16 and
found code violations later. He issued a letter to Leslie or Elizabeth Lucht. Mr. Lucht responded
they aze both landlords at the property.
Mr. Betz stated the orders were issued and the appeal has been filed.
Leslie Lucht, owner, appeared and stated he feels he is being hazassed by his tenant and the City.
The list of things cited—a doorbell that doesn't work, a hinge, etc.—could have been addressed by
the tenant to him according to the lease agreement. His property has been inspected for the fifth
time. The tenant is from Section 8. He did not let her out of her lease, so she talked to Robert
McLean (phonetic) to do an inspection in September. The City Council has a letter on file after
she said numerous things. Section 8 inspected the property in early August and it passed. She
wanted to get out of the lease, and she wanted to contact Mr. Mcl,ean. He cited some things.
Section 8 came back, found some damages, made him go through another inspection to fix
things.
Getting back to the bedroom, stated Mr. Lucht, he filed a permit in 1997. He was told by Section
8 and the City to make sure there is a clothesline, a door, a window, and heat. If the heat was not
adequate at that time, the inspector should have said something. He has a copy of the building
permit for the window to make it a legal bedroom. An inspector came there, they talked about it,
Mr. Lucht told him what the room was going to be used for, and he wanted a permit to make an
egress window for a bedroom. He signed off for everything. The inspector made a comment to
the tenant that he did not think it was a legal window. He must have done a littie research and
found it was a legal window. John Betz responded he did not make any comments.
Mr. Lucht stated the tenant made comments to Robert McLean and passed it on to Mr. Lucht.
This tenant has filed a sexual harassment claim against him. She says she wants out of the lease
and then says she does not want out of the lease. She changed the locks without his permission,
and now he gets something from Code Enforcement. He fixed the things that were deemable to
fix. He is being cited because the ceiling is not tall enough. He can't raise the floor joists 8'/z
inches to accommodate the height requirement to make it a legal bedroom. The City made him
prep the site, get it ready for a rough out, and then they asked him why he is doing it. He was
told that would be fine as long as he got the window in right, which is what he did. They said
that was a legal bedroom at that time. As for the doorway, it was there when he purchased the
building. It is there mainly for an exit out of the basement, and not to be used as an entry. The
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tenant took it upon herself to use it as an entry. Because the doorbell does not work, she wants
people to come in through the side. They gave her two notices not to do it. If the City wants him
to seal the door, then he will seal it, but it is a fire exit for the basement. It is not suppose to be
used as an entry. Section 8 says it is a three bedroom. If there was a problem with the ceiling
height, they should have told him, and he would not have wasted the money to put the window
in. He has three years of leases. Now, he is being told it is a two bedroom unit.
Ms. Moermond asked what is the height. Mr. Lucht responded it is about 6'1" or 6'2". The
statute for the universal code right now is 7'i l". The inspector quoted 7' which is the next code
that comes into play. It would be costly to raise the room. If they have to do that, he and his wife
will sell all their properties in Frogtown, and he has so indicated to Andy Dawkins (Code
Enforcement) and the Mayor. He has invested over $250,000 in this area. He works full time
and manages eight houses. He has warked with the FORCE Unit (Police Department) and the
community.
Ms. Moermond stated his biggest concern is the height of the ceiling. He has a list of things to
be corrected. She asked if the seven foot requirement is City code or State building code. Mr.
Betz responded it is the City code.
Ms. Moermond stated he could get a waiver from her on the ceiling height if it is under the City's
code. Mr. Lucht responded he has an understanding with the tenants in Section 8. Most of his
tenants that haue lived there are ten yeazs of age and under. He does not expect an adult to live
down there.
Ms. Moermond stated Section 8 is the federal program for rent reimbursement. There are two
layers of codes he has to deal with. Section 8 can say it is a three bedroom, and the City can say
it is a two bedroom. Mr. Lucht responded he understands that.
Ms. Moermond asked is he willing to repair the doorbell. Mr. Lucht responded it has been
repaired. Only the bedroom and the door are cited on his appeal. He put in a cordless, wireless
doorbell. A latch has been put in. The loose gas main has been braced up. He called LTEP
(License, Inspection, Environmental Protection) to ask what permits aze needed. They toid him
none. The hinge was fixed also. For the basement, an electrician installed an electric regulated
space heater.
Ms. Moermond asked has this been reinspected. Mr. Betz responded that was the initial
inspector. The inspector for this district has been unable to get into the property. He has left a
message with the tenant.
Mr. Lucht stated if he gets a notice to fix something and it is reasonable, then it is fixed. To raise
a basement with all the joists is about three months of work and about $40,000.
Ms. Moermond stated she will grant a variance on the bedroom from Chapter 34 to the 6'2" on
the following conditions: 1) only people 5'6" shorter should live in that space, 2) would only be
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effective for the durarion of Elizabeth and I,eslie LuchYs ownership. In terms of the heating, she
would like demonstration that this space is adequately heated and vented. With those conditions
on it, the height can be 6'2".
Mr. Lucht stated there is the door issue. There is no landing for it. He asked can it be used as an
exit. Mr. Betz responded the only reason he cited the door is because if someone enters the door,
is not familiar with it, and it is dazk, that person can fall down the basement stairs. The only
thing that he considered dangerous is using that door as an entryway. Mr. Lucht responded the
tenant said she used it because the doorbell did not work. He could put double latch locks on
there, but he would need to get approval through Section 8. Mr. Betz responded the City code
doesn't allow them either.
Mr. Lucht asked should he boazd up the door. Mr. Betz responded he will leave that up to the
Legislative Hearing Officer, but someone will always use the door as a means of entering the
dwelling.
Ms. Moermond asked is there a hazdwaze fixture that can be used so that is only an exit door.
Mr. Lucht responded there is something that can be put on the door.
Ms. Moermond stated that it sounds expensive and it is probably better to close off the door. She
asked would that unpede the fire department personnel. Mr. Betz responded the bedroom is in
the basement and has a legal egress window. Also, he doesn't know if the stairs can be altered to
allow for a landing. Mr. Lucht responded he had two carpenters come in and they said there is no
way to increase it. This tenant is the only one that uses it as an entrance.
Mr. Lucht asked about a note indicating there is no landing. Mr. Betz responded he does not
have a problem if it is not being used as an entry door. If there is a fire, it would make it easier
for the fire department to get in there. As long as it can open, someone will be using it as an
entrance. Ms. Moermond responded it may be a violation of the code to remove the handle from
the outside of the door. Mr. Betz responded that most of the ordinances require that a person get
out.
Mr. Lucht stated to go outside, it would be pushed open. If the door knob is removed, a person
could not get in. Ms. Moermond recommended doing that and also putting a sign on the door
with a statement about a steep staiitivay so any person would understand about the first step.
Also, the removal of the handle on the outside. She asked is that consistent with the building
code. Mr. Betz responded the code requires a landing. She can give a variance on the door
handle. Chapter 34 that he enforces says that all things that are supplied are suppose to be
maintained in the manner in which they were installed. The sign should indicate there is no
landing and a person is going right downstairs.
Ms. Moermond asked has he consulted any carpenters to find out if doing a landing is a feasible
project. Mr. Lucht responded it is feasible, but a heavy structural problem.
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Ms. Moermond stated she can grant a variance to the City code, but she can't grant it to the
state's building code. Mr. Betz responded the landing is part of the building code.
Ms. Moermond stated she will tallc to Fire Prevention about this issue and get their advice. Ms.
Lucht responded he would be willing to let them come out and look.
After consulting with the Fire Department, Ms. Moermond's decision is as follows:
1) Variance granted on the height of the front room in the basement on the following condition:
only people 5'6" or shorter should live in that space. This variance is only effective for the
duration of Elizabeth and Leslie Lucht's ownership. 2) A sign is added to the outside of the side
entry door stating "Caution, Narrow Landing, Steep Stairs." 3) The building will otherwise be
maintained in compliance with all other codes and ordinances.
1554 Bush Avenue
Marcia Moermond stated she received a phone ca11 about this today. The owner said that the
problem has been fixed and he wanted to cancel his appointment today.
John Betz reported that he went by there today and the problem has not been fixed. It is exactly
the same as it was.
Racquel Naylor stated she talked to the owner today. He said he has tabs on two of the vehicles
and the third vehicle will be gone soon. She told him that if he does not appear today, then the
appeal will be denied. He said that was fine.
Ms. Moermond denied the appeal.
469 Whitall Street
Marcia Moermond stated that Code Enforcement-Vacant Buildings has closed this file.
(Withdrawn)
The meeting was adjourned at 2:25 p.m.
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