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02-419�� '�� q '..� i\ � ld j 1�!�'t�l..s Presented By Referred To Committee: Date 2 Whereas, the City of Saint Paui, Deparhnent of Public Works - Traffic Division, made 3 application to the Heritage Preservation Commission (hereinafter the "HPC"), in HPC file no. 4 B02-047, pursuant to the provisions of the Saint Paul Legislative Code for a permit to construct 5 a traffic island at the intersection of Western Avenue and Summit Avenue; and 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 Whereas, after having provided notice to affected property owners the HPC conducted a public hearing on November 15, 2001, at which all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard. Thereafter, the HPC denied the application and informed the applicant of the decision by way of a letter dated November 16, 2001; and Whereas, Pursuant to the provisions of Saint Paul Legislative Code § �3.06, the City of Saint Paul, Department of Public Works - Traffic Division, duly filed with the City Council an appeal from the determination made by the HPC and requested a hearing before the City Council for the purpose of considering the actions taken by the HPC; and Whereas, Acting pursuant to Saint Paul Legislarive Code § 73.06, and upon notice to affected parties a public hearing was duly conducted by the City Council on Wednesday, December 19, 2001, where all interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and Whereas, The Council, having heard the statements made, and having considered the application, the report of staff, the record, minutes and resolution of the Commission, does hereby Resolve, That the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby reverses the decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission in this matter, based on the following finding of the Council: 1. Pedestrian safety at the intersection must be the key concern and the traffic island addresses that concern. The Heritage Preservation Commission's denial of the pernut request was in error when it balanced the design of the traffic island against pedestrian safety. And Be it Further Resolved, That the appeal of the City of Saint Paul, Department of Public Works - Traffic Division, be and is hereby granted subject to the condition that the fmal design of the traffic island and the materials to be used in its construction must first be submitted to the staff of the Heritage Preservation Commission for its review and approval. RESOLUTION CITY OF SA1NT PAUL, MINNESOTA �S Council File # 0, �ytq GreenSheet# 113'10� 1 And Be it Finally Resolved, That the Council Secretary shall mail a copy of this ��'�� 2 resolution no. to the City of Saint Paul, Department of Public Works - Traffic Division, the 3 Zoning Admivistrator and the Heritage Preservafion Coxnxnission. _ � �� ' y � t _ ; A�: ._� 3 `c ' �� € i *°� s s �.� Requested by Department of: By: Form Approved by City Attorney By: � /,✓G✓cww-� S—Fr- o z Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council �Z!��+��A�� = - �. - � � i �� _ _ �� Adopted by Council: Date � S a 2� pa,_ /�� Adoption Certifiga �uy Council Secre GREEN SHEET 266-8710 TOTAL # OF SIGNATURE PAGES Memorializing City Council action taken December 19, 2001, granting the appeal of the Department of Public Works - Traffic Division to a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission denying a pernut applicataon to construct a traffic island at the intersecrion of Western and Sumnut Avenues (f3istoric Hill District). 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Mayor r+r CivilDivision 400 Ciry HaTI IS WestKelloggBlvd Saint Paul, Minnesota SSIO2 Hand IJelivered Telephone: 65! 2668770 Facsimile: 651298-5679 May 8, 2002 Nancy Anderson Council Secretary 310 City Hall 15 West Kellogg Blvd. Saint Paul, MN 55102 RE Appeal from Heritage Preservation Commission File No. B02-047 by the City of Saint Paul Department ofPublic Works-Traffic Division. City Council Acrion Date December 19, 2001. Dear Nancy: This one slipped by me. This was an appeal heard in December, 200. The Council granted the appeal by the Department of Public Works in order to build a traffic calming device at the intersection of Suminit and Western. I had thought that I had prepared the resolution and filed it with you to place on the Council's consent agenda. Instead, it appears that I drafted the resolution and then filed it under my "done" file without ever giving it to you for the adoption by the Council. Please accept my apology for my oversight. With all of that, would yoix please place this matter on the Council's consent agenda at your earliest convenience. Thanks. ��w�� Peter W. Warner Attachment AA-ADA-EEO Employer CITYOFSAINTPAUL Norm Co[eman, Mayor December 4, 2001 Ms. Nancy Anderson City Council Reseazch Office Room 310 City Hall Saint Paul, MN 55102 Dear Ms. Anderson: o �. -y�y OFFICE OFLICENSE,INSPEC770NSAND ENVIRONMENT9L PROTECTION Roger Curtis, Director 4 u 1 LOWRYPROFESSIONALBUIL7DNG Te[ephone:671-266-9007 3i0StPetvStreet Facsimile:6/2-266-9099 Suite 370 Saint P¢u1, Minnesota 55102-I510 �� ` �� o� '� ` , a° ��\ 1 I would like to confirxn that a public hearing before the City Cauncil is scheduled for Wednesday, December 19, 2001 for the following heritage preservation case: Appellant(s): Public Warks - Traffic Division File Nuxnber: B02-047 Putpose: Location: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission decision denying a permit application to construct a traffic island. Intersection of Western and Sununit avenues (Historic Hill District). Staff : Recommended approval of pernut. Comxnission : Denied on a vote of 11 to 0. I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Jerry Blakey. My understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your earliest convenience and that you wili pubiisn natice of the nea:ing in 2he Sain� Paui iega: Ledger. Tia.-�ks:' Please call me at 266-9078 if you have any quesrions. Sincerely, �� - - � Amy Spong C/ Historic Preservation Specialist CC: Council Member Jerry Blakey A1 Shetka, Public Works Ramsey Hill Associarion • �xsraurr • ... NOTICE OF PUBLIC �+'A*+�G � 'lYie Saint Paul City - CoUnctl wiIl con- , duci a public hearing on Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 5:30 p.m. in the C4ty Council Chambers, 1}vrd Floor GYty Flall-Courthouse, 15 West Kellogg Boulevard, Saint Paul, MN, W consider the appeai of the Saint Paul Public Works - "lYaffic Division to a decislon of the Heritage Preservation Commission denying- a permit application to construM a traffic, island at the intersection of Western and Summit Avenues (Historic Hill Districtj. � DaEed: December 6; 2001 � � - NANCYANDERSON _ Assistaat Cfty Covnc3l Secretary, ' � (December 10) � '— s ST. PAUL F.EGAL I�DGffi2 —_�— �2U908.41 - . - , o�-��►�y NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING The Saint Paul City Council will conduct a public hearing on Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 5:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, Third Floor, City Hall-Courthouse, 15 West Kellogg Boulevard, Saint Paul, MN, to consider the appeal of the Saint Paul Public Works - Traffic Division to a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission denying a permit application to construct a traffic island at the intersection of Western and Summit Avenues (Historic Hill District). Dated: December 6, 2001 Nancy Anderson Assistant City Council Secretary ��*�**��* —CAMM.JOURNRL— �*+�*�************* DRTE DEC-06-2691 �*� TIME 12�2B �* P.01 MpDE = h1ENBJRY TRRNSM[SSION FILE NO.= 115 N0. COM ABBWNT4IK STRTION NRMEi TELEPHONE M10.7. 001 OK <01> LEGPL LEDGER STRRY=DEC-06 12�27 END=DEC-06 12�26 PRGES PRG.NO. PROGRAM h6�ME .,,.,��.,%T�' —City of Saint Paul — �wr��exx�:u+r�aa`�vs.w�.�u+wrm� —tity Council — �� — 651 265 8574— �M�� CITY OF SAINT PAUL OFFICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL FACSTMILC T'RANSNIISSION COVE�2 SHC�T 7CO: FROM: C �A X #: RE: �� s�-.� p �J�. -� _ `�` DATE: � f.. . �i � '�'�O � Note: Facsimile operator, please deliver [his transmission to the above addressce. lf you did not receive atl of the pages iv good condifion, please �dvise Janie Lafrenz at (651) 266-8560 at your � carliest convenience. Thank you. NTJMBER OF PAGES (INCLUDING THIS PAGE): _� L�-�� C1TY IL4LL 'CHtRD F1,00R SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA 55102 � nnmen a,� re�y�voa vaae. • • CITY OF SAINT PAUL Norm Colen+mr, Mrt}'or December 4, 2001 Ms. Nancy Anderson City Council Research Office Room 310 City Hall Saint Paul, MN 55102 Dear Ms. Anderson: OFF/CEOFLICENSE,INSPECT/ONSAND /� \ ENV/RONMENTAL PROTECTION v a � Roger Curtis, Direcfor LOVL'RYPROFESSIONALBUlLlDIJG Telep��mre:61?-266-900/ 350 St Peter Streee Fncsimile. 6/Z-266-9099 Sxite 3!0 SainlPazd,Afinnesota �5)02-1if0 I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday, December 19, 2001 for the following heritage preservation case: Appellant(s): Public Works -Traffic Division File Number: B02-047 Purpose: Location: Staff : Commission Appeal of a Heritage Preser� ation Commission decision denying a permit application to construct a traffic island. Intersection of Western and Summit avenues (Historic Hill District). Recommended approval of permit. Denied on a vote of 11 to 0. I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Jerry Blakey. My understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your earliest convenience and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks! Please call me at 266-9078 if you have any que�tions. Sineerely, G;�� Amy Spong Historic Presen�ation Specialist • CC: Council Member Jerry Blakey A1 Shetka, Public Works Ramsey Hill Association �t� �Py�. OFEICE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIONS AND ENVIRONMENTALPROTECT[ON Roger Curtis, Director CITY OF SAINT PAUL Nofm Colemart, M¢yor MEMORANDUM TO: CC: FROM: RE: DATE: � LOWRYPROFESSlONAL BUIL6CNG Suite 300 350 St. Peter Sireet Sairst Paul, Minnesaia 55102-IS/0 City Councilmembers Peter Wamer, CAO Roger Curtis, LIEP Amy Spong, HPC staff HPC appeal for traffrc island at Westem & Summit Avenues December 12, 2001 Telephone: 651-266-9090 • Facsimile: 651-266-9099 The following attachments highlight the events that have taken place and relate to HPC review of the permit application to construct a traffic island at Westem & Summit Avenues, which is located in the Hili Historic District (local and National): ATTACFIl�NT 1 (pages 1 to 'n Application materials and drawings (submitted October 31, 2001} ATTACHMENT 2(pages 8 to 10) Staff report presented at the HPC public hearing meeting on November 15, 2001 and the decision letter sent to Public Works, denying the permit to construct the traffic island. A concept review was conducled on Seplember 6, 2001 and the commission responded favorably, although, rhe commission does not approve, deny or make any formal votes during a concept review. Public notices are not sent out for concept reviews; it is a time for the HPC to be introduced ro a project and to give informal feedback to an applicant. When the public hearing meeting was conducted, there were testimonies both for and ngainst the island. The commissian unaniniously denied the permit application and several commission members stated they were swayed by public testimonies heard and had concerns for the historic context and history of the area. ATTACFINIENT 3(pages 11 to 1� Public tesumony letters that were presented at the HPC meeting. Four letters opposed the traffic island and one letter, from SARPA, was in support of the uaffic island. -- - -- -- ._ . _ _ __ -- - - ----- -- - -- -- _ _ . ATTACHNIENT 4(pages 16 to 1'� - An excerpt of the unapproved minutes from November 15, 2001. ATTACFIMENT 5(pages 18 to 19) Appeal letter by Public Works. r� U � ATTACHNIENT 6(pages 20 to 22) Pubiic testimony letters sent in response to this appeal to City Council. I' A U L CITY OF ST. PAUL � HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION GOOFFICEOf GC6YSE, PTPEClfOKS AND E�V@OPTiE�TALPROTECt10Y 350 SI'. PEIERSTREEC. SURE300 A A 5l.PAU�MhNESOSASSIM-ISIO W RW.CLSTPAL2MN.15/L�P BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIO �� c� This application must be completed in addition to the basic building permit application if the affected property is an individua]ly desi�nated landmark or ]ocated within an historic distcict. This application mus[ be accompanied by three wpies of lans, plus one reduced.to S.�a x 77" and photographs showing all affected facades of the building (no Polaroid pictures). �Plans snall include a site plan, floor plans, and extcrior elevations which note details for replacement of historic materials. For applications which must be reviewed by the Heritage Preservation Commission refer to the HPC Meeting schedule for meeting dates and deadlines. • ADDRESS OFAFFECTED PROPERTY: None — intersection of Western & Summit ARCAITECT: Ilameoffirm: St. Paul Public Works — �ra£fic Division Address(includingzip): g00 City Ha11 Annex Contactperson: A1 Shetka Daytimephone: PROJECT DESCRIPTION: Will any federal money be used in this project? YES NO�_ Are you applying for Investment Tax credits? YES_NO�_ 266-6176 Briefly describe the overall changes to be made to the��iZ� intersection: Construct a triangular traffic island approximately 45 feet on a side with qranite curb (radii colored concrete) and stamped concrete sidewalk to 1 match existing Summit sidewalk pattern. �Please describe how ench ofthe following building elements wi71 be affected by the project. If there wi116e no change, please ir:dicate. Use pictwes to illustrate the changes indicate�l below. (Attach additional sheets ifnecessary.) Windows: Entrances/doors: Exterior wall: Porches: Roof. Foundation: Decorative features: Other(i.e.Additions):(,hc{�(DSG/kpiNCY� Two options: Trianqle island area out side of sidewalk 1)Brick or 2) sod with 3 trees. Option 2 pre£erred. I, the undersigned, understand that the property. I further understand t � application to the St. Paul He � � Signature of Application is limited to the aforementioned work to the af£ected ior work to be done under my ownership must be submitted by ission. Any unauthorized work will be required to be removed. / Signature of owner: t ' � I � 1 � 1 I��-� � --------- -� ��1'�, � _ �l N � Kl ' /� I ' __�-�__ _ �/�l�✓ � �` -f- �� ' i � I � f � � I 1 I 1 � I � � I 1 � I ' 1 Z � ! � ' i � ` �I ' 1 � ,,, , � , E , � , 1 � t � J � � � 1 �I i �+ z ��.' i � _ � _� _ ' I � I � :. �, � �, U � � � � N C 2 O O b � O � W 0 2 � r x w� � . 0 Q ? 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E.:. _,sr�'Ni. � �:f"'iC� � .-�--� CITY OF SAINT PAUL HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMNIISSION STAFF REPORT • FILE NAME: Intersection of Western and Suminit DATE OF APPLICATION: October 31, 2001 APPLICANT: Public Works—Traffic Division DATE OF PUBLIC HEARING/PERMIT REVIEW: November 15, 2001 HPC SITE/DISTRICT: Hill Historic District CATEGORY: contributing CLASSIFICATION: Building Permit STAFF INVESTIGATION AND REPORT: Amy Spong DATE: November 5, 2001 A. SITE DESCRIPTION: The intersection of Westem, Portland and Smmnit Avenues measures 85 feet wide. The curbing is granite and the sidewalks are cement with a tile pattern to mimic the older tiles. The land to the east of the intersection has a hianwlaz pazk and garden and just to the west is a lazge Victorian Era house with a carriage house facing Westem (the main house faces Portland). B. PROPOSED CAANGES: The applicant is proposing to construct an island at the intersecUon of Westem-and Summit avenues. The goal for the applicant is to shorten the pedestrian crossing and to define traffic lanes • to improve safety. According to the applicant, a plan to reconfia �re the intersection was proposed to the neighborhood and the HPC several years ago. The HPC was not in support of reconfiguring the intersection and removin� the original layout of the intersection. This current proposal preserves the layout of the existing curbing and adds a new island. The HPC conducted a concept review of this proposal on September 6, 2001. The Commission responded favorably at the time, but recommended using granite curbing to be consistent with the sunounding streets. The applicant is proposing granite curbing, with colored concrete curbing at the radii, and a stamped concrete sidewalk. The preferred option by the applicant for landscaping is sod with three trees. C. GUIDELINE CITATIONS: Hill Historic District Desi�n Review Guidelines Pub[ic Infrastructure The traditional pattern of public streeu, curbs, boulevards, and sidewalks in the area shoedd be maintained. Distinctive features of public spaces in tlte area, st�ch as brick alleys, stone slab sidewalks, granite ca�rbs, and the early twentietlz centz�ry [antern style street Zights, should be preserved. The same style shottld be irsed when new street tights are instaflerl: �ew streetfitrnitctre busshelters,-telephone — booths, kiosks, sign standards, trash containers, planters and fences should be cornpatible with the character of the district. Brick alleys and stone slab sidewalks generally should be maintained and repaired as necessary with • original materials; asphalt and concrete patches shoz�ld not be zesed. When concrete tile pe�blic sidewalks need to be repZaced, new poured concrete sidewalks should be the same width as the zriting sidewalks and r o�_�� File #B02-047 • should�be scored in a 2 foot square or 18 inch sguare pattern to resemble the old tiles, expansion joints should match the scoring. Handicap ramps shoe�ld be installed on the inside of curbs as part of the poured concrete sidewalk; where there is granite curbing, a section should be Zowered for the ramp. Electric, telephone and cable TV lines sho2dd be placed underground or along alleys, and meters should be placed whereinconspicuous. D. FINDINGS l. Public features, such as street pattems, curbs, sidewalks and alleys, contribute to the character of the Hi11 Historic District. 2. The guidelines state that "the traditional pattern ofpublic streets, curbs, boz�levards and sidewalks in the area should be maintained. " 3. The existing street pattern at Summit and Western Avenues will not be altered by this proposal, however, a new element will be added to an 85' wide intersection. 4. The new traffic island will use materials and sidewalk pattems that are consistent with the surrounding curbing and sidewalks. The proposed trees are in line with existin� boulevazd trees. 5. The addition of a new triangular traffic island will not negatively impact the Hill District or surrounding structures. This feature could also be removed without disrupting the existing street pattern. E. STAFF RECOMMENDATION • Based on the findings, staff recommends approval of the permit to install a traffic island at Westem and Summit Avenues. • � OFF(CE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIOVS AND ENVIROYMENTALPROTECTION Roger Curtis, Directar CITY OF SAINT PAUL Nonn Co(eman, Mnyoi' November 16, 2001 A1 Shetka Public Works - Traffic Division 800 City Hall Annex St. Paul, MN 55102 LOWRYPROFESSlONAL BUILDIh'G Suite 300 3�0 St. Peter Street SrtintPnad, Mim:esotn 55101-I510 Re: Intersection of Summit & Westem avenues, Hill Historic District File #B02-047, HPC application Dear Mr. Shetka: Teleplione: 651-266-9090 Facsim i[e: 651 d 66-9099 As you lmow, the Heritage Przsen�ation Commission (HPC) considzred at its November 15, 2001 meeting your application to install a traffic island at the intersection listed above. The commission voted 1 I to 0 to deny your application. This decision was based mainly on public testimony heard at the meetin; and a concem regardin� the historic context and history of this area. You or any aggrieved party has the right to appeal the Commission's decision to the Saint Paul City Council under Chapter 73 of the Saint Paul Legislatice Code. Such an appeal must be filed within 14 days of the datz of the HPC's order and decision. Chapter 73 states: (h) Appeal to city counci(. The perneit applicant ar mry party aggrieved by the �fecision of the heritage preservation conmiissiar shall, within fourteen (14) days ofthe date ofd:e heritnge preservation conmtissfon's order and decision, haee a right to appeal such order mtd rlecisiorz to the city comecil Tlae nppea! shall be deen:ecl perfeeted upo+z receipt by die divisior: of plannii:g jnativ L/EPj of hvo (2) copies of a�eotice of appeal and statement setting forth tlte grot��ids for tl:e appeal. The division of planitirig [LIEPJ shnll h�mtsmit one copy of the notice ofappea! a�ad statement Yo tlte city coarrcil an�l one copy to the heritage preservatiof: co��mtissiort. The commission, ii: a�ry ivritten order derryir:g a perntit application, sleall adi•ise the npplicmtt of the right to appeal to the cih council and irzclude this pm�ngraph in all such orders. Please feel free to call me at 6� 1.266.9078 if you have any questions. Sincerely, Amy Spong Historic Preservation Specialist cc: File • • �� ` ��,,.. _. .. "�- .�� 1 /i\:+t _ - :?. -011067110hr/'� =- �_ 'g ':`�,:.�,_I.►i� ` • Ramsev Hill Associarion 400 SEL6Y LVENUE, SUITE V, 5111NT PCUL, MN SSIU2-4500 TELEPHONE: 653.221.0200 November 15, 2001 Mr. James Bellus Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission 300 Lowry Building Saint Paui, MN 55102 Mr. Bellus and Members of the Commission, �� At its October 11, 2001 regular board meeting the Ramsey Hill Association reviewed the request by the city of Saint Paul Department of Pubiic Works to construct an island at the comer of Summit and Western Avenues. After hearing the departmenYs presentation and taking comments from some interested community residents the RHA Board adopted a motion to oppose the installation of the traffc island regardless of the design until all other traffic caiming measures have been explored and implemented to the fullest extent. Further, if the island and/or its design is approved by the Commission, the Association is directed to appeai the decision to the City Counci4. At the meeting no evidence was presented to indicate the need for the island or that there has been any change in traffic usage or pattems since a similar island was ordered removed at the request of the Heritage Preservation Commission and the community some years ago. In fact, accident counts show that this is actually one of the safer intersections in Saint Paul. In addition, the oniy person we are aware of that has requested the island was present and agreed that it would not achieve its intended goal — to create a safer intersection for pedestrians. Finally, Public Works staff stated that the details regarding right-of-way for tuming vehicies has not yet been considered. As a result, the Ramsey Hill Association requests that the Heritage Preservation Commission deny the request for the traffic isiand and its proposed design at this.time. The Ramsey Hill Association does not take the safety of citizens lightly and, in fact, has been working ciosely with the Department of Public Works on safety measures for Selby Avenue. However, in this instance, our organization believes that such a structure is an unnecessary and unsightly intrusion at this historic intersection and, as everyone seems to agree does nothing to impact the driver/pedestrian problems because they occur on the west side of the intersection. Further, the structure, regardless of its design detracts significantiy from our efforts to make the three parks at this intersection more attractive to residents and visitors alike. The Association stands ready to work with the Department of Public Works and the Police Department to identify needs and then institute measures that could achieve the intended goal without destroying the current historic design. if other measures prove to be unsuccessfu( or conditions change we then wouid reconsider our position. Thank you for your thoughtfui consideration. Respectfully, /'l� G�C-�✓� / Mark Voerding, Vice-President Ramsey Hill Association �� Nov-14-01 01:36P JMBJ - Minneapolis/StPaul 651 222 0910 P_O1 Jaznes Keane qq6 Portland Avep�e Saira¢ Paa4 Meseneso,ra ,rgo? November 14, 20D1 Mry Syong Histnric preservatlm Officer Histaic P�eserva6on Cortmission 3�0 Lartry ProFessional Bfdg St Pau1 MN 55101 via fax to 657 3!0 6°�O �°` Dear Ms Spong, Please accept this letter opposing the Public Worlcs Department proposal to install an island in the SummiVWestem intersection. I tive nearby and walk and drive this irrtersedion daily in all seasons. The real problem at this intersection is drivers southbourxf on Westem tuming right onto Summit who simply roil through the stop sgn, sometimes at considerable speed. This is an issue for police enfarcement, not Public Works. To my knowledge the angled configuration of these streets is historic and as such should be preserved. S'n �Y. � �� Jame G. Keane � • • • lZ N�U-14-2001 14�20 651 222 0910 95i P.01 N O V- 1 3- 0 1 T U E 1 3: 0 8 P _ 0 1 � � u� l9 • ! t��tnrir,. PrFCe�ygtiOn f',pmmig�ipn Office of i.TF.F 350 St Pet�r Str�t, $uite 3�4 Saint Paul, MN 5.3102 De�r Historic Preserva.tion Commissi�n Chair, ] am writing with Cc�ncern about the proposed traffic island at Summit and Western Avenues, I 6ve on Porti�nd Avenue_ one block from this intersection. in discussing this With our Ciry Councilmember's office, I am advised that this is tlt� requesi of ong cit�?zn who discussed the issue with St. Paut Public Works who then went ahead with the d�sign for the islan� withbut nei�hborhood input. 'fhis is the same way it happened a number of �ears ago when this island was installed and then cemoved at che requast o£ the mayor; again, due t0 no neighborhood input. St. Paul Pubiic Works was invalved in that project also. It is c1eAr they Fvant this island, at whatever cost regardless ofwhether it solves a problem yef to he ideniified. • Our neighborhood assoGiatian, th.e Ramsey Hi0 Association invited Mr. Shetka to its pctober rraecting when it was advised of this project. Mr. Shetka was asked to first paii�t crosswalks at the inter�ections or instaU a stop sign as iesser i�itrusive steps. He essenti2tly reft�ced, saying, "crosswalks don't work". He was reminded that the State law requires that Csrs now stop for pedestrians in crosswalks. He was asked to instail some of thc uaffic eoncs that remind drivers of the nQw law. He also said that doesn't work either. What's at issue 6ere is enforcement. Why do we have crosswalks throughout the city if they "don't work"T The State law is relatively new and it will take some time fpr Minnesotans to get used to it. The concerned citizen herselfagreed at this meeting that the island wouldn't solve the problein. In the meantime, historic Summit Avenue is going to be blighted with a traflic hazard because of one citiaen's request and the detemtination of Public Works. � This ii�tersection has becn configured this way for decades Peopte who use that interse..tioh kttow to use caution; they use it repeatedly and are familiar with it. This sa�ne cbnfiguration Es used in multiple spots throughaut the City. I ask you to not "punish" the � h;storic Avenue for one driver's inattentiveness and one citizen's request. There are many less restrictive efforts that can be tried before this plan is implemented. The Historic Hill District deserves better from the City. 7'hank you for your consideration of this request. incere(y, � �� I,autel krost 436 PoRland Avenue, #11 • . �� Nov-is-aeai is:ae 85a95a7 9bi P.01 HERITAGE PRESERVATIORTCO�IMISSION a��r ooFSn�r� on � Public Hearing Notice aid E'°'�°°.�^�' �°�°°^ ' � � � Fa� 651-]665099 FILENO,: B02-04i PURPOSEs InYersection of Westem & Summi[ Avenues, Hili Historic District, by Public �4orks-Tr,�ffic Divisioq for a buildtng pernut ro conshuc[ a triana lar traffic island. HEARING IDATE: T}mrsdav Nocember 15 2001 at 5:00 p.m. All Public Hearin�s are held in Room40 in the basement of City Hall, 15 �i'. f�ello�� Street. You may send written comments to the Heritane Preservation Commission Chair at the address listed on the other side of this card. Please call Amy Spong, LIEP, at 266-9078 if you have any questions. �, p� (// L � L� "� np L `ZQ/ �r ;'wt, ��Zt.�it.6�%�,p�� . Z�-� �n / �� Notice mailed: November 6, 2001 [.�(��q; //�(� �;�/ � �tn'�/�Kl �" C �'�t�'l/" ! ��/�1 �Ub� �6��e �- _ �'au.� lt-�� IOS • ,� � �. � ; C�.�� C�-if�, �'r��v�'� �� o ��- � �� -: -P�Q� �zB� . 5 s�6� � �s�e . � :�:. .. . . � �'ii Amy Spong - Western and Summit • From: "Toscano, James V." <toscaj@parknicollet.com> To: "'Spong, Amy"' <Amy.Spong@ci.stpaul.mn.us> Date: 11 /13/01 11:05AM Subject: Western and Summit Amy Spong Heritage Preservation Commission City of Saint Paul Dear Amy, D3-`��`� .. At the Board of Directors meeting on November 12, 2001, the Board of the Summit Avenue Residential Preservation Association voted to support the construction of a crossing island at the intersection of Western and Summit, as proposed by the City. Furthermore, we would like to suggest that the island have an historic plaque or marker describing the preservation of the Hill District and Summit Avenue, along with appropriate plantings to fit in with the streetscape in that area. We would appreciate your calling this action to the attention of the Commission at the public hearing on Thursday. Sincerely, James V. Toscano President, SARPA • PRIVACY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain business confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If this e-mail was not intended for you, please notify the sender by reply e-mail that you received this in error. Destroy all copies of the original message and attachments. CC: "Judge, Florence" <jjudge1 @uswest.net>, "Meany, Ann" <Annlance1 @aol.com>, "Michel, Mary" <chipdecko@aol.com>, "Murphy, Helen" <helendic@murphywarehouse.com>, "Neumann, Sheri" <sheran neumann@yahoo.com>, "Noonan, Ardis Niemann" <nnn.nnn@juno.com>, "Platt, VincenY' <vincent.platt@westgroup.com>, "Toscano James V" <JVTfI@aol.com>, "Tschida, Jane" <tschi011 @tc.umn.edu>, "Yorkgitis, E." <candlecomm@earthlink.net> r 1 LJ (5 ��` ��'` . � ��t`� . NOTES OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMNIISSION CTTY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Room 40, Lower Levet, City HalUCourt House November 15, 2001 Present: Judith Benton, Susan Bartlett Foote, Joseph Errigo, Gar Hazgens, Paul Larson, Lee Meyer, Ray Meyer, Dan Scott, Shari Taylor Wilsey, Richard Wolfgramm, Dudley Younldn Members Absent: James Bellus (chair) and Richard Murphy Staff Present: Julie Hoff, Amy Spong and Drew Kempsld I. �Q CALL TO ORDER: 5:05 p.m. by Gar Hargens (vice-chair). ANNOUNCEMEN't'S - Spong announced that the brick alley appeal will be before the city council on Nov. 28. Dan Scott will represent the HPC at the appeal. III. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA - The agenda was amended to include discussions regarding 1524 Summit and 698 Stewart Avenue. Larson will give a brief report regarding the Historic Saint Paul annual meeting during the staff announcements. The agenda was approved as amended. V. PUBLIC HEARING/PERMIT REVIEW A. Western/Summit - building permit to install a triangular traffic island Spong reviewed the staff report. The applicant, A1 Shetka, Public Works, reviewed the proposal. The hearing was opened for public testimony. Jim Rends, nearby resident, spoke in opposition to the island and stated that he does not believe it will help traffic, nor does it comply with the historic nature of the street. Mark Voerding, 115 Farrington Street and the vice-president of the Ramsey Hill Association (RHA), read a statement opposing installation o£ the island until all other remedies are exhausted. He stated the RHA will appeal the HPC decision if the HPC approves the island. Mr. Voerding submitted a letter to HPC staff for the record. Jim Hirsch, 403 Portland, stated that safety is an issue, but does not believe there has been enough discussion abouY other altematives. . • Shetka stated that he did attend the RHA meeting and offered to install a temporary island to see how it wouId function� - FIe does riof believe the $5 foot crossingissafe. --- -- — - Foote asked if the island will affect traffic tuming right from Westem onto Summit because they roll through the intersecrion and speed. Shetka stated that the island will berter define the intersecrion and Page 1 of 2 � • �v a�.y �`� • give motorists a cue to stop. Larson asked about what had been done before. Shetka stated that in 1984 Public Works moved the curb lines out and made 90 degree angles. However, they did not get approval through the HPC and had to remove and restore the street to its original appearance. Younkin asked what was meant by using concrete a the "radii." Shetka said the granite cannot be machined for the tight comers and so concrete will be used just for the radii and will look like granite. Benton asked if there will be additional signage. Shetka stated that a yield sign may be installed. Benton followed up by asking if the island decreases the width of Summit? Shetka said that it does not. Judith Pfankuch, stated that she supports installation of the island because pedestrians really need it - it would be a refuge. Chuck Goener stated that he is opposed to the island and that he believes a temporary island may not be removed in a timely manner. Larson moved denial of the building permit. Benton offered a second. Both commissioners stated that they were swayed by public testimony opposing the island and had concerns regarding the historic context and significance of this intersection. The motion carried unanimously. • VI: STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS The meeting was adjourned at 6:10 p.m. Submitted by: Julie Hoff Staff • Page 2 of 2 �� i ; , ci'� t^:"'.�=-" . CITY OF SAINT PAUL Norrrt Coleman, Mayor November 27, 2001 Amy Spong Historic Preservation Specialist LIEP Suite 300 Lowry Professional Buildin� 350 St. Peter St. St. Paul, MN 55102 DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS Thomas J. Eggum, Director 1000 Ciry Ha!! Annex ZS West Fourth Street Sairst Paul. Mirsnesota SSIO2-1660 Faz: 651-292J857 RE: Intersection of Summit & Westem Avenue, Hill District File #B02-047, HPC application Dear Ms. Spong: On November 15, 2001 the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) denied my application to install a traffic island at the intersection of Summit and `Vestem Avenues. Please be advised that I request appeal of the Commission's decision to the Saint Paul City Council under Chapter 73 of the Saint Paul legislative code. Further be advised that the grounds for this appeal is as follows: • The HPC approved the concept review for the (pedestrian) island on September 6, 2001 subject to desi�n detaits of construction materials. • The HPC staff report for the public hearin�/permit review November 15, 2001 recommended approval of the permit to install a traffic island which �vould be constructed �cith granite curb, side�valk to match existing, trees and sod. • A letter from the Ramsey Hill Association under the sia ature of Mark Voerding, dated I�TOVember 15, 2001 was submitted to the HPC opposin� the traffic island. I did not see the le[ter until after the public hearin�permit review. I feel this letter contains misleadin� and maccurate statements. • Three other letters were submitted under the signatures of James G. Keane, Laurel Frost and Tim Sullivan opposin� the traffic island. A�ain, I did not see these letters until after the public hearin�permit review and I also feel these letter contain misleading and inaccurate statements. � • • • � Responsive Services • Qualiry Facilities • Empfoyee Pride G��-`l�`� • • The Summit Avenue Preservation Association supports the "construction of a crossin� island at the intersection of Summit and �Vestem". • I recall a comment from a HPC member durin� deliberations relatin� that the island was quite small and inferrin� it would not function weli for pedestrian safety. The trian�ular island is lar�e; approximately 45 feet on a side and approximately 1,000 square feet in area. • Durin� opposin� testimony the HPC chair had to continually remind the speakers to limit commen[s as to �vhy the island does not fit the historic character of the district. • The Parks Department supports the island construction and the trees/grass area will match the character of the adjoining boulevards and area. • Since the HPC denial to install a traffic isiand, I have received several calls from residents in the immediate area in support of the island proposal. They indicated they would like to appeal the HPC's decision and I told them that I intended on doin� so. • An eni�ma comes to mind when considerin� a comment in the Ramsey Hill Association's letter of November 15: "the structure re�ardless of its design detracts significantly from our efforts to make the three parks at this intersection more attractive to residents and visitors • alike". Assume that the island already existed with trees and grass and that the proposal was to remove the island and replace it with a wide expanse of asphalt creating an 85 foot distance for a pedestrian to cross while confronting trlffic. I cannot help but ima�ine the outcry that would be heard for removin� trees and �rass which had connected the area parks at this intersection and made it more attractive to residents and visitors alike. Please call if you need more information or have any questions. My number is 366-6176. Yours very truly, C �� ' � A] Shetka, P.E. City En�ineer cc: Tom Eg�um John Maczko r � �J � r '. Amy Spong - Pedestrian Island - Summit and Westem Page 1 From: "Judith Pfankuch" <jmpfan@msn.com> To: <dan.bostrom@ci.stpaul.mn.us> Date: 11 /30/01 11:31 AM Subject: Pedestrian Island - Summit and Western November 29, 2001 Mr. Dan Bostrom Ciry of Saint Paul City Council of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102 RE: Pedestrian Island - Summit and Western Dear Council Chairperson Bostrom: i ; �� ; �.-- _-� _� . - '.. • The purpose of this letter is to express my support for the Saint Paul Public Works DepartmenYs plan to install a Pedestrian Island at the Intersection of Summit Avenue and Western Avenue in Saint Paul. I'm sure you are aware of this intersection with four streets merging at odd angles. I have been a resident of this historic neighborhood for ten years and I am proud of the three small parks boarding this busy interseciion. The only feasible way to gei to Overlook Park to Nathan Nale Park to Cochran Park is by walking. 1 appauld the St Paul Public Works and especially AI Shetka for taking the initiative to design this pedestrian island to support safty for the pedestrian while combining all the historic guidelines as outlined by the Heritage Preservation Commission. The Ramsey Hill Association and the Heritage Preservation Commission Board's have voted against this proposal. Historical area, yes it is -- but, we are not being driven by horses anymore!! It is my hope you will vote in favor of the construction of this pedestrian island proposed by the St Paul Public Works Department. Sincereiy, Judith M Pfankuch 345 Summit Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55102 651 227 4509 jmpfan@msn.com Judith Pfankuch 345 Summit Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55102 651 227 4509Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com r1 �J r 1 LJ ZO � - Fwd: RE: Pedestrian Island at Summit/Wester From: AI Shetka <al.shetka@ci.stpaul.mn.us> To: AMY SPONG <amy.spong@ci.stpaul.mn.us> Date: 12l12/01 9:53AM Subject: Fwd: RE: Pedestrian Island at Summit/Western >RobCouncil President Dan Bostrom >320-B City Hall >15 West Kellogg Blvd. >Saint Paul MN 55102 >Dear Mr. Bostrom, November 24, 2001 >I am sorry that I was out of town for the discussion regarding the >pedestrian island at the corner Western and Summit Avenues. The >announcement of the meeting came after I had left on a business trip and I >did not return until one day after the meeting was over. Consequently, I am >appealing the Heritage Preservation Commission's (HPC) decision at its >November 15th 2001 meeting under Chapter 73 o the St. Paul Legislative Code. >I live at this very intersection, at 400 Summit Avenue. For almost as long >as I have lived here I thought that an island or roundabout was needed at >this intersection, if only because of its sheer size. But with sharp • >increases in both automobile and pedestrian traffic, the need has been >growing in recent years. > >This is a very long and dangerous intersection. Four streets (not two) >intersect here (Summit, Western, Portland, and Irvine), and it is, together >with the intersection just a block away at the top of Ramsey Hill, the most >busy intersection along aii of Summit Avenue without a traffic light. I >cannot even begin to calculate the number of times horns and screeching >brakes have been heard just outside our home. >Three city parks lie within a hundred yards or so of this intersection, and >the pedestrian traffic along the block between Western and Ramsey Street >makes it one of the most walked blocks in the city. It strikes me as >remarkable that the city would not want to make this area as pedestrian >friendly as possible. 1 understand that this pedestrian island is opposed by >the HPC but safety, in my opinion, should never be sacrificed to someone's >notion of what is "historically correct." (And what makes it "historically >correcY' in the first place, the fact that no island or roundabout was >constructed there in the past?) I cannot even begin to imagine what the >Iegal ramifications might be if a pedestrian were hit, or worse, even killed >at this intersection, and it were shown in court that a pedestrian island ' >turned down by the HPC against the advice of the Traffic Division and >Department of Public Works' could have saved a life. >Furthermore, this intersection is problematic for residents of Summit Manor >Nursing Home which lies just several hundred feet to the north on Western. • >Residents of Summit Manor who come to stroll on Summit, often in >wheelchairs, are confounded by the massive expanse of the intersection and >some will not even venture to cross Summit to access Lookout Park. My wife Page 1 b�- -`� � �I �I Amy Spong - Fwd: RE: Pedestrian Island at Summit/Western Page 2 >Bobbie Jo Carpenter has multiple sclerosis, and she will not cross the >intersection to Nathan Hale Park, or to Cochran Park for the fear of >traversing such a long stretch of pavement. >When my wife and i first moved into our home the tra�c on Irvine was >modest; however, over the course of twelve or thirteen years, with the >construction of new condominiums and residences on irvine and Pleasant, the >population on Irvine alone has grown by well over 100 percent, and so >consequently the tra�c. Add to this increase those seeking quick escapes >from the traffic on Ramsey Street following events at the Excel Center who >often take Pleasant to Irvine, and cross Summit to Western to access >Interstate 94. These events typically let out in darkness and the safety at >this intersection is even further compromised. >Three parks within a hundred yards or so of each other makes for a >pedestrian paradise, and the stretch of Summit between Ramsey St. and >Western shouid be as pedestrian friendly as possible. The Summit, Ramsey, >Western area is one of the most visible and central in our beautiful city, >yet the particular Western-Summit intersection is an eyesore. A nicely >landscaped pedestrian island or roundabout would not only improve tra�c >and pedestrian safety but would enhance the beauty of the area. >Sincerely, >Robert Rulon-Miller, Jr. >Bobbie Jo Carpenter • • r 1 L J Z 2- • JAMES C. NOONAN ATTORVEI"AT LAW 339 SL`rL�tlf A�B\UE SAI�T P.�L"L, bI� S�ioz-zi6q December i4, 2ooi The Honorable Dan Bostrom President, St. Paul City Council 3zo-B Cit}� Hall is ��' Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul, b1I�,' 55io2 The Honorable Jerry Blakey Councilman, City of St. Paul 3�o-B Cit}' Hall is 4ti' Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul, biN 55io2 a � Dear President Bostroin and Councilman Blakey: 0�-`l�`i PHO�E 6;i.zzz.33to FAk 6�tz2z334o E-mail: �+9osn(�'arrl.ne[ The purpose of m}' letter is to plead with you for your support for a"traffic island at Summit and 4Vestern Avenues in St. Paul. • As a resident of Summit Avenue, and one �vho has many visitors and guests to his home, I find that the pedestrian who walks along Sttmmit Avenue endangers himself each time he attempts to cross Summit at Western A��enue. The traffic is fast-moving; and it gi�•es little or no consideration to the pedestrian attempting to cross Western on the north side of the street. The unsafe situation can be remedied b}� a tr�affic island installed on the north side. I ha�'e lived in the general neighborhood at various times since i96o. Safety has al��a�s been a prime consideration. Please help us keep this ��'onderful neighborhood safe for its many residents and visitors. I��ill be happy to meet with you or your representative at an}� time to discuss this matter further. Thank }•ou for your consideration and supportive action in this matter. ��'ith kindest personal regards, I am Sinc rely ✓ ames C. JCN/Ic yours, Noonan • cc: A1 Shetka ��y C� Co�nu I qr��aa -�-�'� ��htc� {-ieo-r�no� 12•I`1•� l o�--y�y � • • Heritage Preservation Commission File No: B02-047 DEC1gZpp� I support the HPCs decision to den the Public Works-Traffic Division a building pemut to construct a triangular traffic island at the intersection of Western & St,mmit Ave. 'I'he city attempted to construct such an island about five or so years ago, and the public outpouring of negative comments caused the project to be halted. 'The same outrage is present today for these and other reasons: 1. The intersection is presenfly wide and safe. 2. I have lived in this neighbor since 1966 and have operated a business at 79 No. Westem since 1976 and I do not recall ever seeing an accident at this intersection. If there have been accidents, they have been very few. 3. The money to be expended should be returned to the taxpayers in lower taxes. The local government has too much money now - as witnessed by this unnecessary project. 4. ANY new construction in the intersection will necessarily make the traffic lanes narrower and unsafe. Sincedrely, J �� - ':'`'�`—�-"�- Thomond R. 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Egg«m, Director CITY OF SAINT PAUL Norm Coleman, Mayor November 27, 2001 Amy Spon� Historic Preservation Specialist LIEP Suite 300 Lowry Professional Building 350 St. Peter St. St. Paul, MN 55102 1000 Ciry Ha!lAnrsex 25 West Fourth Street Saint Paul, b7innesota 55702-1660 Faz: 651-292-7857 RE: Intersection of Summit & Westem Avenue, Hill District File #B02-047, HPC application Dear Ms. Spon�: 0 �- - `t �`( On November 15, 2001 the Herita�e Preservation Commission (HPC) denied my application to install a traffic island at the intersection of Summit and Westem Avenues. Please be advised that I request appeal of the Commission's decision to the Saint Paul City Council under Chapter 73 of the Sain[ Paul le�islative code. Further be advised that the grounds for this appeal is as follows: • The HPC approved the concept review for the (pedestrian) island on September 6, 2001 subject to design details of construction materials. • The HPC staff report for the public hearing/permit review November 15, 2001 recommended approval of the pemut to install a traffic island which would be constructed with granite curb, sidewalk to match existing, trees and sod. • A letter from the Ramsey Hill Association under the si�nature of Mark Voerdina, dated November 15, 2001 was submitted to the HPC opposin� the traffic island. I did not see the le[ter until after the public hearing/permit review. I feel this letter contains misleading and inaccurate statements. • Three other letters were submitted under the signatures of James G. Keane, Laurel Frost and Tim Sullivan opposing the traffic island. A�ain, I did not see these letters until after the public hearin�/permit review and I also feel these letter contain misleadin� and inaccurate statements. Resportsive Services • Qua(iry Fatifities • Employee Pride • The Summit Avenue Preservation Association supports the "construction of a crossin� island at the intersection of SummIt and Westem". • I recall a comment from a HPC member durin� deliberations relatin� that the island was quite small and infemn� it would not function well for pedestrian safety. The trian�ular island is large; approximately 45 feet on a side and approximately 1,000 square feet in area. • Durin� opposing testimony the HPC chair had to continually remind the speakers to limit comments as to why ihe isIand does not fit the historic chazacter of the district. • The Pazks Department supports the island construction and the trees/a ass area will match the character of the adjoining boulevazds and area. • Since the HPC denial to install a traffic island, I have received several calls from residents in the immediate azea in support of the island proposal. They indicated they would like to appeal the HPC's decision and I totd them t6at I intended on doin� so. • An enigma comes to mind when considerin� a comment in the Ramsey Hill Association's letter of November 15: "[he structure regazdless of its desi�n detracts significantly from our efforts to make the three parks at this intersection more attractive to residents and visitors alike". Assume that the island already existed with trees and grass and that the proposal was to remove the isiand and replace it with a wide expanse of asphalt creating an 85 foot distance for a pedestrian to cross while confrontin� traffic. I cannot help but ima�ine the outcry that would be heard for removin� trees and �rass which had connected the area parks at this intersection and made it more attractive to residents and visitors alike. Please call if you need more information or have any questions. My number is 266-6176. Yours very truly, � � � A1 Shetka, P.E. , City Engineer ��vti" cc: Tom Eggum }� , John Maczko �� 7 � „,,,�n}� /�" y � � ��'��'" � - i - -- - - -- - - - - - - �._ ,�R"� i �i �� i -- � �� ' 15 i,�5�`' �(�E NU A� �i'�N� P� File #B02-047 CITY OF SAINT PAUL p� _ y 1`1 HEI2ITAGE PRESERVATIOh COMNIISSION STAFF REPORT FILE NtLME: Intersection of VJestem and Summit DATE OF APPLICATION: October 31, 2001 APPLICAl�TT: Public �Vorks—Traffic Division D9TE OF PUBLIC HEARIl�G/PERMIT REVIE�V: IQovember 1S, 2001 HPC SITE/DISTRICT: Hill Historic District CATEGORY: contributing CLASSIFICATION: Building Pemiit STAFF II�TVESTIGATION AND REPORT: Amy Spong DATE: November 5, 2001 A. SITE DESCRIPTIOIV: The intersection of Westem, Portland and Summit Avemies measures 85 feet �vide. The curbin� is granite and the sidewalks are cement �vith a tile pattem to mimic the older tiles. The land to the east of the intersection has a trian�ular park and garden and just to the west is a large Victorian Era house with a cania�e house facing Westem (the main house faces Portland). B. PROPOSED CHANGES: Th� applicant is proposin� to construct an island at the intersection of Westem and Summit avenues. The goa] for the applicant is to shorten the pedestrian crossin� and to define traffic lanes to improve safety. According to the applicant, a plan to reconfi�ure the intersection ��as proposed to the neighborhood and the HPC several years ago. The HPC was not in support of reconfigurin� the intersection and remo��ing the original layout of the intersection. This cunent proposal preserves the layout of the existin� curbin� and adds a new island. The HPC conducted a concept re�•ie�v of this proposal on September 6, 2001. The Commission responded favorably at the time, but reconunended using granite curbin� to be consistent with the sunoimding streets. The applicant is proposing granite curbing, with colored concrete curbing at the radii, and a stamped concrete sidewalk. The preferred option by the applicant for landscaping is sod with tl�ree trees. C. GUIDELINE CITATIONS: Nill Historic District Desioa Revieio Guidelines Prrblic I�tfi�ash•rect«re The trartitional pattern ofp«blic streets, curbs, bo�devards, and sideivcdks in the mea should be maintai�ted. Distinctive features ofptrblic spaces i�t the crrea, such as brick alle}�s, stone slab sidetivalks, grani(e ctn bs, a�rd Ihe em�ly hventietl: ceiak��y lairtern style street lights, shotrld be pr ed. The same st}'le should be used u•hen new street lights are installed. Netiv sh�eet fiu�niture such as benches, bus shelters, telepl:one booths, kiosks, si��t sfa�7cl�trds, trnsk containers, planters mtd fences should be compatible ivi0r tlte driracter ojthe drsb ict. Brick nllel's ar7d stwte slnb sideu�alls gerieral(}� shoiild be maintai�ied nrid repaired cis rtecessa�y tivith origiirnl mnterrals; crsplia(t and concrete patckes slroulcl �rot be used. [�hen ca�crete tile p��bGc sideirntks ��zed to be replaced, neir po�a ed concrete sideisalks sTrould be the same tirirldt as tlre esiting sidetivalks a�rd File �B02-047 shotdd be scored in a 2 foot square or 18 inch square pattef�n to resenrble the old tiles; expansion joints slmuld inatch t/ie sca�i�rg. Handicap ramps shoutd be installed at the iruide of curbs as part of the poured co7:crete sideti��alk; where there is grct�tite cto�bing, a section shoerlcl be lowered for the ramp. Electric, telephone m:d cable TV Zines should be placed undeig�romid or cdong alleys, aad meters sho�dd be placed rvlrere incoiupic«otrs. D. FINDINGS 1. Public features, such as street pattems, curbs, sidewalks and alleys, contribute to the character of the Hill Historic District. 2. The guidelines state that "tlre traditional pattern ofpublic str c:�rbs, boulevar artd sidelvalks in the area shot�lrl be rrtai�ttaiited. " 3. The existin� streef pattem at Summit and Westem Avenues �vill not be altered by this proposal, hotivever, a new element will be added to an 85' �vide intersection. 4. The new traffic island �vill use materials and sidewalk pattems that are consistent �vith the sunoundin� curbin� and sidewalks. The proposed trees are in line with existin� boulevard trees. 5. The addition of a new triangular traffic island �vilt not negatively impact the Hill District or sunoundin� structures. This feature could also be removed without disnipting the existin� strezi pattern. E. STAFF RECOMMENDATION Based on the findings, staff recommends approval of the permit to install a traffic island at Westem and Summit Avenues. ! Amy 5; �ng = Western and Summit From: "Toscano, James V." <toscaj@parknicollet.com> To: "'Spong, Amy"' <Amy.Spong@ci.stpaul.mn.us> Date: 11 /13/01 11:OSAM'' Subject: Western and Summit Amy Spong Heritage Preservation Commission City of Saint Paul Dear Amy, Page �-1-��\ At the Board of Directors meeting on November 12, 2001, the Board of the Summii Avenue Residential Preservation Association.yoted to support the construction of a crossing island at the intersection of W estern and Summit, as proposed by the City. Furthermore, we would Iike to suggest that the island have an historic plaque or marker describing the preservation of the Hill District and Summit Avenue, along with appropriate plantings to fit in with fhe streetscape in that area. We would appreciate your calling this action to the attention of the Commission at the public hearing on Thursday. Sincerely, James V. 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CC: "Judge, Florence" <jjudge1@uswest.net>, "Meany, Ann" <Annlance1@aoi.com>, "Michei, Mary" <chipdecko@aol.com>, "Murphy, Heien" <helendic@murphywarehouse.com>, "Neumann, Sheri" <sheran neumann@yahoo.com>, "Noonan, Ardis Niemann" <nnn.nnn@juno.com>, "Platt, VincenC' <vincent.platt@westgroup.com>, "Toscano James V." <JVTII@aol.com>, "Tschida, Jane" <tschi011@tc.umn.edu>, "Yorkgitis, E." <candlecomm@earthlink.net> Judith Pfankuch, 07:49 AM 12/4/2001 , Fw: Summit Traffic Island Page 1 of 1 X-Originating-IP: [204.31.42.16] From: "Judith Pfankuch" <jmpfan@msn.com> To: "SummitWestern" <alshetka@ci.stpaul.mn.us> Subject: Fw: Summit Traffic Island Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:49:12 -0600 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2001 13:48:48.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[667583AO:O1C17CCA] ---- Original Message ----- From: James V. Toscano Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:43 PM To: jerry.blakey@ci.stpaul.mn.us; dan.bostrom@ci.stpaui.mn.us; gerry.mcinerey@ci.stpaul.mn.us; scott.renstrom@ci.stpaul.mn.us; amy.spong@ci.stpaul.mn.us; tom.eggum@ci.stpaul.mn.us; john.maczko@ci.stpaul.mn.us; cc:al.shetka@ci.stpaul.mn.us; jmpfan@msn.com Cc: Vincent Platt; Mary Michel; Linda Bjorklund; Jim Toscano; Jane Tschida; Helen and Dick Murphy; Florence Judge; Elaine Yorkgitis; Ardis Nieman Noonan; Ann Meany; Andy Dubner Subject: Summit Traffic Island The Board of the Summit Avenue Residential Preservation Association voted to support the proposal of the city to construct an appropriate pedestrian island between the corners of Summit and Western and reaffirms this supporf fo the City Council. Furthermore, we suggest an historic plaque on the National Historic Preservation status of Summit Avenue and the Hili District be placed on this traffic island. With our appreciation for your consideration of this. Sincerely, James V. Toscano president SARPA` " Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Printed for A1 Shetka <alshetka a ci.stpaul.mn.us> 12/4/2001 Page 1 of 3 6a -`il9 Reply-To: <rulon@rulon.com> From: "Rob Rulon-Miller" <rulon@rulon.com> To: "A1 Shetka" <al.shetka@ci.stpaul.mn.us> Subject: RE: Pedestrian Island at Summit/Westem Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:23:41 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by icicle.wintemet.com id fAOIPqAB028831 Dear Al-- Here's the letter I've written. Is there anything else you think I can add? RobCouncil President Dan Bostrom 320-B City Hall 15 West Kello�g Blvd. Saint Paul MN 55102 November 24, 2001 Deaz Mr. Bostrom, I am sorry that I was out of town for the discussion regazding the pedestrian island at the corner Western and Summit Avenues. The announcement of the meetin� came after I had left on a business trip and I did not retum until one day after the meeting was over. Consequently, I am appealin� the Heritage Preservation Commission's (HPC) decision at its November 15th 2001 meetin� under Chapter 73 o the St. Paul Legislative Code. I live at this very intersection, at 400 Summit Avenue. For almost as long as I ha� e lived here I thou�ht that an island or roundabout was needed at this intersection, if only because of its sheer size. But with sharp increases in both automobile and pedestrian traffic, the need has been growin� in recent years. This is a very lon� and dangerous intersection. Four streets (not rivo) intersect here (Summit, Western, Portland, and Irvine), and it is, to�ether with the intersection just a block away at the top of Ramsey Hill, the most busy intersection along all of Summit Avenue without a traffic li�ht. I cannot even begin to calculate the number of times horns and screeching brakes have been heard just outside our home. Three city parks lie within a hundred yards or so of this intersection, and the pedestrian traffic along the block between Western and Ramsey Street makes it one of the most �valked blocks in the city. It strikes me as remarkable that the city would not want to make this area as pedestrian friendly as possible. I understand that this pedestrian island is opposed by the HPC but safety, in my opinion, should never be sacrificed to someone's notion of what is "historically correct." (And what makes it "historically correct" in the first place, the fact that no island or roundabout was constructed there in the past?) I cannot even begin to ima�ine what the legal ramifications might be if a pedestrian were hit, or worse, even killed at this intersection, and it were shown in court that a pedestrian island Page 2 of 3 hirned down by the HPC against the advice of the Traffic Division and Department of Public Works could have saved a life. Furthermore, this intersection is problematic for residents of Summit Manor Nursin� Home which lies just several hundred feet to the north on Westem. Residents of Summit Manor who come to stroll on Summit, often in �vheelchairs, are confounded by the massive expanse of tke intersection and some will not even venture to cross Summit to access Lookout Pazk. My wife Bobbie Jo Carpenter has multiple sclerosis, and she will not cross the intersection to Nathan Hale Park, or to Cochran Park for the feaz of traversing such a long stretch of pavement. When my wife and i first moved into our home the traffic on Irvine was modest; howecer, over the course of t�velve or thirteen years, �vith the construction of new condominiums and residences on Irvine and Pleasant, the population on Irvine alone has gro�vn by well over 100 percent, and so consequently the traffic. Add to this increase those seeking quick escapes from the traffic on Ramsey Street foilowin� events at the Excel Center who often take Pieasant to Irvine, and cross Summit to Western to access Interstate 94. These events typically let out in darkness and the safety at this intersection is even further compromised. Three parks �vithin a hundred yards or so of each other makes for a pedestrian paradise, and the stretch of Summit behveen Ramsey St. and Westem should be as pedestrian friendly as possible. The Summit, Ramsey, Western azea is one of the most visible and central in our beautiful city, yet the particular Western-Summit intersection is an eyesore. A nicely landscaped pedestrian island or roundabout �vould not only improve traffic and pedestrian safety but would enhance the beauty of the area. Sincerely, Robert Ruton-M[ller, Jr. Bobbie Jo Carpenter -----Original Message----- From: Al Shetka (mailto:alshetka� ci,stpaul,mn.us] Sent ��'ednesday, November 21, 2001 627 AM ,Judith Pfankuch, 1 I:29 AM 11/30/2001 , Pedestrian Island - Summit and Westem Page 1 of 2 X-Originating-IP: [63.20.215.91] From: "Judith Pfankuch" <jmpfan@msn.com> To: <dan.bostrom@ci.stpaul.mn.us> Cc: <jerry.blakey@ci.stpaul.mn.us>, <amy.spong@ci Subject: Pedestrian Isiand - Summit and Western Date: Eri, 3� Nov 2001 11:29:00 -0600 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.00Z1.1700 stpaul.mn.us> � _y « X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2001 17:31:13.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[CED808EO:OSC179C4] November 29, 2001 Mr. Dan Bostrom City of Saint Paul City Council of Saint Paul Saint Pau1, MN 55102 RE: Pedestrian Island - Summit and Western Dear Council Chairperson Bostrom: The purpose of this letter is to express my support for the Saint Paul Pubiic Works Department's pian to install a Pedestrian Island at the Intersection of Summit Avenue and Western Avenue in Saint Paul. I'm sure you are aware of this intersection with four streets merging at odd angies. I have been a resident of this historic neighborhood for ten years and I am proud of tne three small parks boarding this busy intersection. The only feasible way to get to Overlook Park to Nathan Hale Park to Cochran Park is by walking. I appauld the St Paui Public Works and especially AI Shetka for taking the initiative to design this pedestrian island to support safty for the pedestrian while combining all the historic guidelines as outlined by the Heritage Preservation Commission. The Ramsey Hill Association and the Heritage Preservation Commission Board's have voted against this proposal. Historicat area, yes it is -- but, we are not being driven by horses anymore!! It is my hope you will vote in favor of the construction of this pedestrian island proposed by the St Paul Public Works Department. Sincerely, ]udith M Pfankuch 345 Summit Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55102 651 227 4509 jm.p_fan@msn.com Printed for A1 Shetka <al.shetka c�ci.stpaul.mn.us> 12/3/2001 Judith Pfankuch, 10:44 PM 12/3l2001 , Update... Page 1 of 1 X-Originating-IP: [204.31.40.221] From: "Judith Pfankuch" <jmpfan@msn.com> To: "SummitWestern" <al.shetka@ci.stpaul.mn.us>, "Rob Rulon-Miller" <rulon@rulon,com> Subject: Update... � Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22;44:03 -0600 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2001 04:43:40.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[3EDO81Z0:01C17C7E] AI and Rob... Update I'm sure you noticed the Email from the President of SARPO that he sent to City Council. I wrote him and thanked him for writing �o the HPC and asked for him to write to the City Council and he did. Linda Bjorklund wrote - I have her letter Sunday afternoon I meet with Shiela &Ray Meyer* along with Jean Velleu at Jean's house to discuss the traffic intersection. Jean is the President of the Cass Giibert Society and is bringing the motion to the Board on December 4th Board Meeting to gain their support for a letter to be written. (I'm sure it will pass). Jean is passing on to 10 other concerned neighbors and requesting they write letter. Don Woods will talk to the Pastor of the Church on Portland. There are 9 members on tfie board of Cass Gifbert Society and she thinks they wiii all write letters and I passed out prints of the pictures you gave me... *Ray Meyer is on the Commission of the HPC and he said they were instructed to vote on the merit of Historic presence and not safety. Ray is going to write a letter stating he is a member of the Board and a neighbor (lives on Portland one biock down the street from the future traffic island. He is saying he approves Yhe plan Shiela Meyer will write a letter Shirley Pearl did write letters to President and Jerry Blakey I wrote a letter... 7om Blanck will write a letter Ardis Noonan will write a letter Karen Steger will wriYe a letter Tracey Beckman will write a letter I have drafted the letter to the Summit Manor - she has not returned it as yet. I will draR a letter for the Amy Johnson Home on Virginia I will get info to Garrison Keilor, and the St Paul Art Schooi on Summit across from my house I will get info to )ohn and Peggy Rupp. --- I-stiA-have-more-t4do-before-F feave I ba11 is — — I have more follow-up to do, but, I am feeling more confident ]udith Pfankuch Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http_/1exptorer_msn.com Printed for AI Shetka <al.shetka�ci.stpaul.mn.us> 12/4/2001 O�.-�{�`t JAMES C. NOONAN A7TOR:\EY AT LAW 339 SL'�L�ICCAVE\UE SAI\'T PAtii, bf V S�ioz-zi64 December i4, 2ooi The Honorable Dan Bostrom President, St. Paul City Council 32o-B City Hall is �1' Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul, MN SSio2 The Honorable Jerry Blakev Councilman, City of St. Paul 32o-B City Hall is ��' Kellogg Bh�d. St. Paul, MN 55io2 Dear President Bostroin and Councilman Blakey: PHO\E 6�i.zzz.33to FA7i 65t.z2z.33qo E-mail: �+�9osnC arrLnct Tlie purpose of my letter is to plead ��ith you for your support for a"traffic island" at Summit and 4Vestern Avenues in St. Paul. As a resident of Summit Avenue, and one who has many visitors and guests to his home, I find that the pedestrian �vho walks along Summit Avenue endangers himself each time he attempts to cross Summit at Western A��enue. The traffic is fast-moeing; and it gives little or no consideration to the pedestrian attempting to cross 4Vesteru on the north side of the street. The unsafe situation can be remedied by a traffic island installed on the north side. I ha�e lived in the general neighborhood at various times since i96o. Safety has al�cay's been a prime consideration. Please help us keep this �� neighborhood safe for its many residents and visitors. I�,.ill be happy to meet with you or your representative at an}� time to discuss this matter further. Thank }�ou for your consideration and supportive action in this matter. �1'ith kindest personal regards, I am Sinc reiv �ames C. JC\/Ic yours, Noonan cc: A1 Shetka t ;,.� � uxnwnini.\,^ � . i�� ` �� ,',='—�►�- �amsev Hill Association G00 SELBY AYENUE, SIIITE V, SAINT PAUI, MN 55302-450U TEIEPNONE: 651.223.02U0 November 15, 2001 Mr. James Beilus Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission 300 Lowry Building Saint Paul, MN 55102 Mr. Bellus and Members of the Commission, c� �--�t �`i At its October 11, 2001 regular board meeting the Ramsey Hili Association reviewed the request by the city of Saint Paul Department of Public Works to construct an isiand at the comer of Summit and Western Avenues. After hearing the departmenYs presentation and taking comments from some interested community residents the RHA Board adopted a motion to oppose the installation of the traffic island regardless of the design until all other traffic calming measures have been explored and implemented to the fullest extent. Further, if the island and/or its design is approved by the Commission, the Association is directed to appeal the decision to the City Council. At the meeting no evidence was presented fo indicate the need for the island or that there has been any change in traffic usage or patterns since a similar island was ordered removed at the request of the � at this is actuaily one of the safer of that has requested the isiand wa�re�sent anct agree create�a safer intersecfion for pedestrians. Finally, Publ right-of-way for fuming vehicles has not yet been consi� �me y,,,ea,rs a o. in raa, accioern counis snow Paul. In addition, the only person we are aware ? that it wouid not achieve its inten e aoa — to - the As a result, the Ramsey Hill Association requests that the Heritage Preservation Commission deny the request for the traffic island and its proposed design at this time. The Ramsey Hill Association does not take the safety of citizens {ight{y and, in fact, has been working c{osety wiYh the Department of Pubtic Works on safety measures for Selby Avenue. However, in this instance, our organization believes that such a structure is an unnecessary and unsightly intrusi�on at this historic intersection and, as evervone seems to aqree does�nothinq to impact the dri �edes'tr'ianp because they occur on the w est side of_the intersection. Further, the structure, regardless of its design detracts significantly from our� efforts to make the three parks at,this inters ,ection more-attracfive to residents and visitors alike. ; �l-----------�.... �.. . .. ____�.__ _ .�,u_.�.__ _ _. , _. � - — W The Association stands ready to work with the Department of Public Works and the Police Department to identify needs and then +nstitute measures that could achieve the infended goal wifhout destroying the current historic design. If other measures prove to be unsuccessful or conditions change we then wouid reconsider our position. Thank you for your thoughtiul consideration. Respectfully, .� �� .�'� �,;,�-�-�-� i Mark Voerding, Vice-Presidenf Ramsey Hili Association N"O V- 1 3- 0 1 T U E 1 3= 3 8 P _ 0 1 � �� \l� �l��T�cir,. Prr.ceryRjlO� ('.pmtt�isgipn �f�ice ofT,1F.P 350 St Pet@r Str�t, $uite 3�0 Saint Paul, IviN 5j102 Dcar Historic Preservation Con�niissi�n Chair, ] am writing with Concem about the proposed tr�ffic island at Summit and til'estern Avenues, I live on�Portl�nd Avenue, one biock from this intersection. in discu5sing this With our City Cout�cilmember's office, I am advised that this is ihe requesi of ong citi�en wfio discussed the issue w;th St. Paut R,blic Works who then went ahead with the d�s�gn �'or the islan�t withbut neighbothood input. This is the same way it happened a number of years ago when this was installed a�d then� emoyed at fhe request of ihe mayoc; again, doe t0 no neighborhood input. St. Paul Public R'orks was invoived in that project also. It is cic&r they want tliis island, at whatever cosi regard]ess of �vhether it solveg a problem yef to be identified S �� ,� Our neighborhood asso�iation, the Ramsey HiU As ciation invited b3r. Shetka to its Qctober mecting when it was advised of this pra' t. Mr. Shetka was asked to first paint crosswalks at the inter$ections or ' a sto s.g as iesser intrusive steps. He essenti2lly ref�scd, saying, "cross��alks don't work". He was reminded that the State law requires that �ars now stop for pedestrians in crosswalks. He was asked to install some of � thc traft'ic eancs that remind drivers ofthe new ]aw. He also said tfiat doesn't work ' either. What's at istue here is enforcement. VJhy do we have crossw�alks throughout fhe cify if tliey "don't work"? The State law is relatively new and it will iake some time for Minnesotans to get used to it. The concerned citizen herselfagreed at this mecting that the island wouldn't solve the problem. Tn the meantime, historic 5ummit Avenue is going to be blighted wilh a trafTic hazard because of one citizen's request and the detem�ination of Public tVorks. This intersection has beon configured this way for decades _P,�eop_1e. �who u�e t a intersectioh krtow to use cat�tio�; they use it repeatedly an are faid niliar with it. This sa�ne configuration is used in muitiple spots throughout the City. I ask you to not "punish" the historic Avenue for one driver's inattentiveness and one citizen's request. There are many less restrictive efforts that can be tried before this plan is implemented. Th� Hisioric Hiil District deserves beiter from the City. Than.k you for your consideration of this request. incerely, �� I,aurel Frost 436 Portland Avenue, #11 �� 3'-r hcv-i3-zaa� _s:�=_ es;ssa� ss� P.ei •Nov-14-01 01:36P JMBJ - Minneapolis/StPaul 651 222 0910 P_O1 c� a— - `� �`� )azne> Keazic gq6 Poxtland Avenue SaueQ Pait4 N.innesuta SSypz November 14, 2001 Amy Spong Histaic Praseivation Oifiar Nisloric Preserva6on Cattnisslon 300 La,vey Professional BId3 St Paul MN 55101 via fax to 651 � G P io �°, Dear Ms. Spong, Please accept ihis letter opposing the Public Works Department proposal to install an island in the SummiUWestem intersedion. I live nearby antl walk and drive this intersection daily in all seasons. The real problem at ihis intersection Is drivers southDound on Wesiem tuming right onio Summit who simply roll through the stop sign, sometimes at considerable speed. This is an issue for police e�torcement, not Public Works. To my knowledge the angied configuration of these streets is historic and as such should be preserved. S�nc rely, � �� Jame G. Keane � NOV-14-2001 14�20 651 222 0910 95i P.BS HERITAGF yRFSFRVATIO\' COMMISSIO\` Yublic Hcaring Noticz CITy OFSAt�T PAUL Oi�icc of 4<rnu. Inrnrionz ud E� iro: cuau: Cro:aaor. Fi:6S1 �N-Si;i9 FILEnO.: B02-047 PURPOSE: Intersection of ��/estem & Surzvnit Avenues, Hill Historic Dis:rict, by Yublic l�'orls-Traffic Division, for a buildin� per��ti[ to construct a triangular iraffi: island. IIEARIRG DA"CE: 'thursda�•, T�o�ember 15, 2001 at 5:00 p.m. All Public Heeririos are held in Room 40 in the basemcnt of City Hall, 15 R�. Kello�g Street. Pou may send �vrittzn conunznts to [he Herita�z Preservation Commission Chair at the address listed on the otheT side of this czrd. Ylzase call Amy Spon�, LIEP, at 26G-907S ifyou have any questions. f�� (/� i A n�� ,, �2e� �tz -d . D�L•.�, �,'wL Noticc mailcd. 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