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02-1152� Council File # �_S � ��5�.- Green Sheet # �� RESOLUTION CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Presented By Refened To Committee: Date WHEREAS, on August 6, 2002, Tim Mather d/b/a St. Croix Carpentry, LT,C, 722 Third Street, #103, Hudson, WI 54016 made application on behalf of Thomas and Kian Carretta, 1 Charles Lake Road, North Oaks, MN 55127 to the Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission (hereinafter "HPC") pursuant to the provisions of the Saint Paul Legislative Code for a building pernat for property located at 597 Holly Avenue located in the Hill Historic District; and 8 WHEREAS, the Commission conducted a public hearing on August 22, 2002, after 9 having provided notice to affected property owners. At the close of the public hearing, the HPC 10 denied the application based upon all the testimony and records before it, including the following 11 findings and conclusions as set forth in the HPC staff report dated August 15, 2002. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 The site is classified as a newer construction to the Hill Historic District. The guidelines state that:"Imitative materials such as asphalt siding, wood- textured metal or vinyl siding, artificial stone, and artificial brick veneer should not be used. Smooth foar-inch lap vinyl, metal or hardboard siding, when well installed and carefully detailed, may be acceptable in some cases: ' The applicant is proposing a smooth four-inch lap vinyi siding which may be acceptable. The standazds recommend against "Using substitute materials for the replacement part that does not convey the visual appearance of the surviving parts of the wood feature or that is physical or chemically incompatible." Wrapping wood with aluminum does not convey the same visual appearance, nor doe vinyl beadboazd convey the same visual appearance as wood beadboard. Wrapping all the wood fascia and adding vinyt beadboard would adversely impact the architectural integrity of the house and historic district. It seems apparent the front facade casement windows were recently replaced and without HPC approval or a building pernut. The windows clearly have a different profile than the existing wood casement windows and the new windows have been `blocked down', which is evident from the unpainted, `infill' trim around the new casements. This practice clearly does not comply with the guidelines which state, "enlarging or reducing window or door openings to fit stock window sash or new stock door sizes should not be done." Detailed drawings for the proposed Anderson windows were not provided. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. WHEREAS, in a letter dated August 23, 2002, the HPC staff advised Mr. Mather that the building pernut application to replace windows, install vinyl siding and beadboard and to wrap fascia and aluminum for 597 Holly Avenue was unanimously denied; and a� WHEREAS, on September 3, 2002, Thomas Carretta filed a Notice of Appeal from the 0��5 y HPC's decision pursuant to the provisions of L,egislative Code § 73.06 and requested a hearing before the City Council for the purpose of considering the actions taken by the said Corrunission; and WHEREAS, the said Notice of Appeal contained suppiemental informauon which was not presented to the HPC by Mr. Mather at the August 22, 2002, public hearing before the HPC; and WHEREAS, acting pursuant to Legislative Code § 73.06 and upon notice to affected parties, a public hearing was conducted by the City Council on September 25, 2002, where all interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and WHEREAS, the Council having heazd the statements made and having considered the application, the testimony, the report of staff, and the record, minutes and resolution of the Commission; does hereby RESOLVE, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby affirms the decision of the HPC in this matter as the appellant has not demonstrated an error in the facts, findings or procedures of the HPC in this matter; and be it F[IRTHER RESOLVED, that the appeal of Thomas Carretta be and is hereby denied; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED, that the findings and conclusions of the HPC, as set forth above aze hereby adopted by the Council as its own; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Council notes that the appellant had submitted information that the HPC had not seen or considered; and be it FINALLY RESOLVED, that the CounciPs secretary shall mail a copy of this resolution to Mr. Carretta, the Zoning Administrator and the Heritage Preservation Commission. Requested by Department of: By: Fosm Approved by City Attorney By: ��./iYvs`a-- !�- /r� UZ by Mayor for Submission to Council By: Approved by o � �Dat�e $y. v(Hjt. Adopted by Council: Date ��_ ��.�QO'.l� � Adoption Certif}�qd by Council Secreta� DEPARTMEPlrlOFFICNWUNCIL onre wmn�o O �-t`S �- c�rico,,n��i �zioaior GREEN SHEET No 113719 ��ou 266-8610 '"'"" � ce.�rt�rto.'� arvcaun. MUS7 BE ON COUNCIL AGENO/1 BY (ON7� December 11, 2002 � wnmetcat arcwrmwkv ❑anawc rtartwc � maxoa�amueFSUrt ❑wuxcu.mnnaceto ❑ W �� ❑ TOTAL � OF SIGNATURE PAGES (CLIP ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE) CTION REWES7� Memorializing City Council action taken September 25, 2002 denying the appeal of Thomas Caretta to a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission denying a building pennit to replace masonite siding with vinyl, wood fascia and soffit in alutninum and vinyl beadboard and wood windows with vinyl for his property at 597 Holly Avenue (Hill Historic District). RECOMMENDATION Approve (A) or Reject (R) VEILSONALSERVICE CONTRAGfS MUSTANSWERTXE FOLLOWIN6 QUESTIONS: 7. Has this persarJfirm eNer xorked under a conhact for Mis tlepartment'7 � PLANNING COMMISSION YES NO CIB COMMITTEE 2. Has thie persorJfimi ever been a ary empbyee9 CNILSERVICECOMMISSION YES NO 3. �oes this persoNfi(m possess a sidll rwt �w,mallypoeses.setl by arry current city empioyee? YES NO 4. is this pe,sonfirtn a targetetl vendoYt YES NO Emlain all yes arisv.ers an separate sheet and attach W green sheet INITIATING PROBLEM ISSUE, OPPoRTUNI7Y (Who, Whaf, When, Where, Why) ADVANTAGESIFAPPROVED DISADVANTAGESIFAPPROVED D{SADVANTAGES IF NOT APPROVED TOTAL AMOUNT OF TRANSACTION S COST/REVENUE BUDfiETED (CIRCLE ONE) VES NO FUNDING SOURCE ACTNITY NUMBEft FINANCIAL INFORMATON (EJ�W NJ OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY ManuelJ. Cervantes, CiryAnorney O � ��, CITY OF SAINT PAUL Randy C. Kelly, Mayor November 19, 2002 Nancy Anderson Council Secretary 310 City Hall 15 West Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul, MN 55102 Telephone: 6i I 2668710 Facsimile: 651298-5679 �� lafik~"r;z P°;° ' ��,�, �, �P�� ; � � ��m Re: Resolution memorializing the City CounciPs decision to deny the appeal of Thomas Canetta from a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission denying a building permit to replace siding with vinyl, fascia and soffit in aluminum and beadboard and wood windows with vinyl for the property located at 547Holly Avenue City Council Action Date: September 25, 2002. Dear Nancy: Attached please find the signed Resolution memorializing the decision of the City Council to deny the appeal in the above-referenced matter. Please place this resolution on the City Council's Consent Agenda at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. V ery huly yours, �� /,�- /i�� Peter W. Warner /�� Assistant City Attorney Civil Dtvision 400 Ciry Hall TS WutKelloggBlvd. Saint Paul, Minnuota 55102 Hand Delivered PWW/rmb Enclosure OFFICE OF LICENSE, 7NSPECTTONSAND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTTON Rager C. Curtis, Director CITYOFSAINTPAUL Randy C. Kel[y, Mayor September 6, 2002 Ms. Nancy Anderson City Council Research Office Room 310 City Hall Saint Paul, MN SS102 Dear Ms. Anderson: o�.-��a sa Te[ephorse: 672-266-900] F¢csimile: 67b266-9099 n�� Q�� ' � T weuld like to cenfi ��2r a pub!ic hearirg before ±he City Co�mcil is �che,dul��3 for Wednesday September 25, 2002 for the following heritage preservafion case: _ Appellant(s): owner, Thomas Carretta File Number: B02-325 Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservarion Commission decision denying a building pernut to replace Masonite siding with vinyl, wood fascia and soffit in aluxninum and vinyl beadboard and wood windows with vinyl. Location: 597 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic Distriet Staff : Recommended conditional approval (Based on the findings, staff does not recommend approva] of the building pemut as proposed. Staff would recommend approving a building pemvt for the following: 1. Installation oF Wolverine smooth triple-tluee vinyl siding in an appropriate color. 2. Replacement of a rear metai and glass door with same. 3. All window and door trim, comer boazds, porch ceilings, soffits and fascia must remain wood or wood beadboard where apphcable. (No vinyl beadboazd or wrapping in aluminum). 4. There was not enough information provided regazding the profile and sash sryle of the new proposed windows and the new front windows (installed without a permit) do not comply with the guidelines. These issues should be dealt with under a senazate pemvt review.l � Commission : Denied on a vote of 7 to 0. � � �rrszizon*. , � - - I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Jerry Blakey. ]. _-- aozie� 01� rvar�e �tutuvs public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Couneil at your T4e Sasn -Paui City -Conncit.wnt con-. you will publish notice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks auct a publtc .t,ea�ing on weanesaay: Sepfembec 25,� 2002, at 5:30 p:m. in the ; if you have any questions. cny councjt cbamt�rs,-1�1,ird x1� ctty Sincerely Amy Spon�� g !/ • "'� Historic Preservarion Specialist CC: Council Member Jerry Blakey owner, Thomas Carretta Roger Curtis, LIEP File LOWRYPROFESSIONAL BU7LIDNG 3i0 St Peter Street Suite 300 SainiPau[,Minnuota SSIO2-1510 _ HaIlrCOUrthouse, 15 West. �Kgllogg BovIevazd, Saint Paui. bIlV, ta.consider-�the appeal ofThomas Carretta, to adeclsl6n of �' the Heritage Preservafton Commissioit�� . denying- a bnild'mg, permit to replaee � ma.sonite� siding wtth vinyl, woocl fascia and- soffit -in alt�ininvm anit'vuiy2 �'bead-� board-and wood wu�dows,with vinyl foi his property at 592 Holly Avenue (Flill Tllsftiric Dishictl. -, . . - � , . Dated: September 9, 2002- _ . - , NANCYANDERSON - � ' Assistant-'City council,il S�etcYary . � — . ' � 15eptsny_hbrT`dy' �; --=-°= sr. ratrc r�v.-��u ^ '� � - . oaoasoo�' - oa- il 5 � NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING The Saint Paul City Council will conduct a public hearing on Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 5:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, Third Floor, City Hall-Courthouse, 15 West Kellogg Boulevard, Saint Paul, MN, to consider the appeal of Thomas Carretta, to a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission denying a building permit to replace masonite siding with vinyl, wood fascia and soffit in aluminum and vinyl beadboard and wood windows with vinyl for his properiy at 597 Holly Avenue (Hill Historic District). Dated: September 9, 2002 Nancy Anderson Assistant City Council Secretary �*�*****��**** -COt'P7.JOURNPL- �***v.�u��*�*�ux�r*»a* Df7TE SEP-99-2002 *�*** TIME 17�19 *�� P.01 oa -ll5a MODE = MEMORY TRRNSMISSION STPRT=SEP-09 17�19 END=�EP-09 17�19 FILE NO.= 047 N0. COM RBBRi1JTWK STRTION NRME� iELEPMJNE hq. 001 OK C01> LEGFlL LmGER PP.GES PRG.NO. PROGRFlI1 h6aME � -City of Saint Paul - ****�'*�*��'� -City Council - �� - 651 266 8574- �� ,.,' e CITY OF SATNT PAUL OFFICE OF THE C1TY COUI3CIL FACSINQLE TRAIVSNIISSION COVERSHEET TO: � FI20M: � r FAX #: RE: d 1 ' DATE: � q � aoo �, !VOte: �acsimile operator, please deliver this transmission to the above addressee. If you did not receive all ot the pages in good condition, please advise Janie Lafrenz at (651) 266-8560 at your earliest conveaience. Thank you. NUMBEFt OP PAGES (TNCLUDING THLS PAGE)_ � �1TY HAI-L THIRD FI.00R SASIT PAUL, MI.NT7ESOTA 55102 � pnnlBlOn�B�WBlp2DB/ Page 1 of 1 �'��J Nancy Anderson - Publish Pubfic Hrg. Notice. From: Nancy Anderson To: Moore, Shari Date: 9/9/2002 4:55 PM Subject: Publish Public Hrg. Notice. CC: Johnson. Lucille Shari: 1 have faued the attached public hearing notice to the Legal Ledger. file://C:\WII�TDOWS\TEMP\GW}OOOlO.HTM 9/9/2002 �Do ilifferenY districts have different guidelines for artificial siding and trim? All historic districts have similar guidelines for restoration and rehabilitation work. The guidelines state that both new construcrion and restorarion work should be of a character and quality that maintains the distinguishing features of the existing building and the " sunounding environment. Repair instead of teplacement of architectural featuxes is encouraged whenever possible. Any new replacement materials shonld match the original in composirion, design, color, texture, and overall appearance. The Dayton's biuff district guidleines outiine several exceptions that the HPC may consider, particularly for buildings constructed after 1930. In all districts, the HPC will review artificial siding proposats on a case-by-case basis. "� What about arriCicial siding and trim for new construction? In general, the HPC views with greater favor proposals for new constcucrion that utilize materials similar to those of historic buildings. However, artiftcial siding is sometimes approved for new consttucrion, depending upon district guidelines, t6e natuTe o£ the project and the qualicy of its design, and the tzeatment of surrounding buildings. Heritage Preservaflon Commission City of Saint Pau1�I.IEP 300 Lowry Professional Buiiding 350 Saint Peter Stseet Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102-I510 {651) 266-9087 i ) Tlus project has been flnanced in paz[ wi[h federal funds � from [he National Paik Service, Depar[menx of ihe Inxerioc, thcough the Minnesota Hisxoxical Society undec the pxovisions of the National His[oric Preservation Acc as I amended. Howeveh [he contenrs and opuuons do nox necessarily reflecc [he views oc policies of che Depacementof ' the Inierioc � This ptogcam receives fedeial funds from [he National Park ? Service. Regularions of che U.S. Departtnent of [he Interioc � stricdy prohibi[ unlawful discximinanon in fedexal(y assisced � departmen2al programs on [he basis of tace, colo5 nattonal origin, age or handuap. Any pezson who believes he or she � has been discnminated against in any program, activity or � faciliry operaxed by a xecipieni of fedecal ass�stance should � write io: Du�ector, Fqual Oppottuniry Progcam, U.S. � Depattment of [he In[erio5 National Paxk Service, P.O. ' 37127, Washington, D.C.20013-7127. ��i�t n� artn�n�a� �nd°an�? Artificial siding is any material applied in parallel stxips to the outside of a building and made of materials other than wood. Common examples in current use are vinyl, steel, and aluminum. � Why is the City concerned about the siding on buildings in heritage preservarion districts? Several areas of Saint Paul have been designated by the City Council as Herieage Preservation Districts because of their historical and azchitectural significance. Preserving the historical integrity of buildings within those districts includes maintaining the materials that cover their surEaces. � Can't the application of arrificial siding raise the value of my home? It depends on what the buyer is looking for. In many cases ii is quite the opposite. Real estate agents who specialize in properties in historic districts in Saint Paul report that buyers will pay mare for homes wieh oxiginal materials in good condition, including original wood siding and trim. Covering or altering wood trim or ornament in order to accommadace an overlay of new siding can actually reduce the financial value of a property. �But doesn't the weatherrighmess provided by arti$cial siding offer the best protection against moisture? If a 3noisture problem is making qour paine peel, the addition of arrificial siding will only mask the problem rather than solve it. Sealing the wall from the outside can even worsen it by trapping the moisture within the walls. The source of the problem (such as a leaking roo£ or vapor migrating through the wa1Ls from the inside) must first be eliminated, which would then also increase paint life. �What about upkeep? Aren't the new arri�icial sidings maintenance-free? Contrary to oft-repeated claims, maintenance is not eliminated with artificial siding. Eventually it will fade, cup, or show other signs of weathering; it may even need painring to restore it to its original appearance. Steel, aluminum, and vinyl require petiodic cleaning, and all show damage more readily than wood siding. In addition, vinyl becomes very brittle in Minnesota's cold winters and is easily broken. Patching or splicing any type of artificial siding is seldom successful without the use of paint to produce a uniform colos tflBut how ca� retaining original siding i and trim �naterials actually raise the value of a,home in an historic district? Many buyers are attracted to homes in historic districts because of the high quality facing materials and unique details ehat would be prohibitively expensive to duplicate today. In fact, some owners of historic houses remove newly applied artificial siding in order to restore the historic exterior undemeath. A growing number of urban home owners prefer the crafrs- manship, texture, range of coloxs, and overall appearance of painted wood siding and trim. A Dayton's Bluff house before (abovej and a$er removal of artificial siding and trim. 1�� > Why is the $PC concerned about doors? The design and materials of doors are important elements of a building's historic character. >The doors to my house don't seal well. Don't they need to be, replaced? Not necessarily. Many problems can be solved simply by weatherstripping, adjusting the frame or threshold, or adding a storni door. Effective repairs often cost less than replacement. Joints can be reglued, panels replaced, and hardware cleaned and reused. >If I need to replace an existing door, what types will the HPC approve? Those in keeping with the historic door's style and use. If the original is gone, look at doors on similar houses. Architectural salvage companies can often supply older doors at'a lower cosethan having them replicated. Steel doors are strongly discouraged, particularly at the front of a bailding. > Can I install patio or french doors? The important consideration is whether they are appropriate fo; the style of the house. Often, the wide o,pening they require is out of proportion as well as stylistically inappropriate. Related issues include locatiori, size and sash � maeerial. > My house needs a storm door. Are some ,tvnes better than others? Historically, most houses lacked storm doors, so two rules apply: the simpler the better, and let as much of the original door as possible remain visible. As with windows, the HPC generally prefers wood over other materials. Aluminum storm doors are discouraged, parricularly at the front of a building. � What about remodeling projects? Can new doors be added? Yes, but scale and propottion are important. Historic doors are often taller, and many have a transom. The heights of any new openings should generally align_with earlier openings. `flDo garaQe doors matter to the HPC? Heritage Preservation Cominission City of Saint Paul/LIEP 300 Lowry Professional Building 350 Saint Peter Street Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102-1510 (651) 266-9087 This pxo�ec[ has been financed m pazt wi[h federal funds &om [he National Park Servme, Depar[ment of ehe Inreuoy through the Minnesoea Historical Society under rhe provistons of the Nanonal Higmric Preservation Acx as amended. Hogeveq ehe wncents and opinions do not necessardy reflect ehe views or pohaes oE the" Departmen[ of the Incecioc � . Th�s program re<erves federal funds from the National Park Service. Regulanons of the U.S. Depaxanenc of the Interior saictly piohibit unlawful discriminanon in federally assisxed departmental programs on the basis of iace, color, naeional origin, age oi handicap. Any person who believes he or she has been dacrimi- na[ed agamst in any pcogram, acdvity or facility opexa[ed by a reupient of federal assistance should write to: D"uec[or, Equal Oppoimmty Program, U.S. Departtnent of the Incerioy National Park Service, P.O. 37127, Washingcon, D.G 20013-7127. � .� "� � � .�� / �' � t � . �� '-` -` �� _' .v�" � � �5 � � _ -� �= �— � � �� — y � �� i � � � f�� p � /1 .+i A� �{ ;- �� ! �- � .00 �� -' � �, - - ��, r !Foi. , . , . W�.�._____:::�_.�._._�,_., -<, — � , _ HPC �t��-�i'es No. 3 I'es, especially when they face the street. Typically, the HPC approves flat panel, wood garage doors, though other.styles may be suitable in some applicacions. \V'� .�� fl Do I need HPC approval to do work on my windows? Why does the HPC care? Windows proclaim the style and character of a building. The picturesque array of window shapes of the Queen Anne and the mulri-paned sashes of the Colonial Revival are just as important to them as familiar arched windows are to churches. Maintaining the appropriate window type is part of ensuring the survival of a building's and neighborhood's historic character—one of the fundamental concems of the HPC. flMy windows leak cold air in the winter and are hard to operate. Don't they need to be replaced? In most cases, no. I.eaks can usually be eluninated with weatherstripping. Other problems can be solved with caulking, adjusting stops, replacing storm windows, and possibly installing jambliners. Providing the routine maintenance that all homes require can keep a structurally sound window working well for centuries. flSome parts of my windows have rotted away. Can anything be dorie about that? Rotten sills, casings, and bottom sash rails can generally be replaced, often at a fraction of the cost of a new window. New technologies in epo�ry consolidation can also TestqTe existing wood to as-good-as-new condition. flIf replacement proves to be unavoidable, what kind of new windows does the HPC approve? ' The main concem of the HPC is to preseroe the exterior character of each designated house and district. That requires all new parts, including windows, to look like original construction, If the historic windows.had mulriple panes, so should the new; if the sashes were doubl�-hung, so should their replacements. Details are atso important, like the height of the meering rail and the size and configuration of the muntins. � What about these new windows that are supposed to be better and more easily maintained than the old�fashioned wooden ones? Materials idenrical to the original are nearly always preferable. Some manufacturers have conscientiously tried to replicate older styles of windows with modern materials. Use of products such as vinyl or metal is reviewed on a case-by-case basis. Of particular concern to the HPC is the match in appearance between the old window and its replacement. No window can be as energy-efficient-as the waIl in which it is located, but a properly, � repaired and weatherstripped original wood window with a snugly fitted storm will yield about the same or greater efficiency compared to a modern window with insulated glass. �I am building an addirion to my home. What should the windows look like? You and your architect and builder should be guided by the windows in the original parr of your house. That means.attending to their individual characteristics (such as style of operation, proportion of height to width, and division of lights) as well as to the organization of the openings in the wall. For example, are the windows typically arranged in groups, or is there one big window centered on the wall? `flAre storm windows part of the picture? Yes, the HPC reviews storm window replacement. Wood remains the best insulator. If youhave your original storms and screens, consider repairing them. Replacement combination windows which meet the HPC criteria are also available. Look foz teplacement windows with a flat surface and stiles and rails the same width as the original, typically about 2". Mill-finish aluminum combination windows are never approved. HPC staff will gladly wark with you to find a solutiop that meets your needs. � What about commercial and industrial bnildings and buildings with metal windows? Most of the previous answers apply to these situations as well. That is, windows are an unporcant part of a building's character and should be retained and repaired whenever possible. Alterations and replacements, if necessary, should reflect the chaiacter, material, design and appearance of the originals. CITY OF SAINT PAUL Randy C. Kelty, Mayor September 6, 2002 Ms. Nancy Anderson City Council Research Office Room 310 City Hall Saint Paul, MN 55102 Dear Ms. Anderson: �� 5a OFFICE OF LlCENSE, INSPECTIONS AND ENV[RONMENTAL PROT6CTTON Roger C. Curtis, Director LOWRYPROFESSIONALBUILIDNG Telephone:612-266-9001 350 St Peier Sireet Facsimile: 612-266-9099 Suite 300 SaintPaul. Minnesota 55102-ISIO I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday, September 25, 2002 for the following heritage preservarion case: Appellant(s): owner, Thomas Carretta File Number: B02-325 Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission decision denying a building permit to replace Masonite siding with vinyl, wood fascia and soffit in aluminum and vinyl beadboard and wood windows with vinyl. Locafion: 597 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District Staff : Recommended conditional approval (Based on the findmgs, staff does not recommend approval of the building pernut as proposed. Staff would recommend approving a building permii for the following: 1. Installatton of Wolverine smooth triple-three vinyl siding in an appropriate color. 2. Replacement of a rear metal and glass door with same. 3. All window and door tnm, comer boards, porch ceilings, soffits and fascia must remain wood or wood beadboard where applicable. (No vmyl beadboazd or wrapping in alummum). 4. There was not enough information provided regazding the profile and sash style of the new proposed windows and the new front windows (mstalled without a permit) do not comply with the guidelmes. These issues should be dealt with under a separate pemilt review.) Commission : Denied on a vote of 7 to 0. I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Jerry Blakey. My understanding is that this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your earliest convenience and that you will publish notice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks! Please call me at 266-9078 if you have any quesrions. Sincerel � i Amy Spon� Historic Preservarion Specialist CC: Council Member Jerry Blakey owner, Thomas Carretta Roger Curtis, LIEP File oa-��5a CITY OF SAINT PAUL Randy C. Ke[ly, Mayor MEMORANDUM TO: City CounciImembers CC: Peter Wamer, CAO OFFICE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIONS AND ENVIl20NMENTAL PROTECTION Roger C. Cunis, Direcfor LOWRYPROFESSIONAL BUILDING 350 Sz. Peler Streei Suite 300 SaintPaul, Minnesofa 55102-I510 Telephone: 651-266-9090 Facsimil e: 651-266-9099 Roger Curtis, LIEP �/�- FROM: Amy Spong, HPC staf.YG� . RE: HPC appeal for 597 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District DATE: September 18, 2002 The following attachments highlight the events that have taken place and relate to HPC review of the permit applicafion to install vinyl siding, beadboard, aluminum so�t and fascia and vinyl windows. ATTACHMENT I(pages AI-Z to AI-28) The applicarion materials were submitted and include: Al-1 to Al-5 1) HPC applicarion form with supplemental information Al-6 to A1-15 2) Photos of existing property and of other properties having artificial materials A1-16 to A1-17 3) Two bids from St. Croix Carpentry, LLC (1-vinyl bid, 2-Hazdie Boud bid) Al-18toA1-28 4)Productinformationonproposedvinylsidingandinformariononproblemswith existing Masonite siding. ATTACHMENT 2(pages A2-29 to A2-32) The HPC written order to the applicant is attached. The staff report highlighted the main fmdings and recommended a conditional approval which read: Based on the findings, staff does not recommend approval of the building pernut as proposed. Staff would recommend approving a building permit for the following: 1. Installarion of Wolverine smooth triple-three vmyl siding in an appropriate color. 2. Replacement of a rear metal and glass door with same. 3. All window and door trim, corner boards, porch ceilings, soffits and fascia must remain wood or wood beadboard where applicable. (No vmyl beadboard or wrapping in aluminum). 4. There was not enough informarion provided regazding the profile and sash style of the new proposed windows and the new front windows (installed without a pernut) do not comply with the guidelines. These issues should be dealt with under a separate pernut review. The HPC denied the pernut application as proposed and based the decision on the staff report and public testimony. While stafing the morion to deny, the HPC member stated that the application is incomplete and what is complete is not in compliance with the guidelines. oa-i�sa ATTACHMENT 3(pages A3-33 to A3-35) The approved minutes of the August 22, 2002 public hearing meeting that addresses the hearing for 597 Holly Avenue. ATTACHMENT 4(pages A4-36 to A�1-49 ) The request for an appeal by Thomas Carretta, owner and appellant, is attached with supplemental information (NOTE: many of the attachments were repeated from the above information and was not included). AT7'ACHMENT 5 (page AS-50 ) Testimonies received in writing for the August 22 HPC meeting to supplement oral testunony. � Windows: �xi�ting windows and siding are defective R�:nove and replace with same size Entrances/doors: Remove and replace with same size Exteriorwall: Remove and replace Masonite siding with vinyl siding Porches: be repaired but retained as is Bead Board to be installed onporch ceilings CITY OF ST. PAUL HERITAGE PRESERVATION CQMMISSION tl0 OFFICE OF UCENSR A'SPECIIONS AMl ENVOtONMINfAL PApTECI'bN 350Si.PEfER5IREEl,SUlSE300 �. 5!. PAUL, MWNESOTASSIM-I5(0 W VJ W.CLSIYAULMN.OS�LIEP This application must be completed in addition to the basic building permit application if the affected property is an individually designated landmark or located within an historic districi. This application must be accompanied by three copies of plans, plus one reduced to 8 1/2" x 11" and photographs showing all affected facades of the building (no Polaroid pictures). Plans shall include a site plan, floor plans, and exterior elevations which note details for replacement of historic materials. For applications which must be reviewed by the Heritage Preservation Commission refer to the HPC Meeting schedule for meeting dates and deadlines. ADDRESS OF AFFECTED PROPERTY: 597 Hollv A ARCHITECT AND/OR CONTRACTOR: ��,�� CiSGV� I Nameoffirm:St. Croix Carpentry LLC a 5o N i co 1[eF �Vlcc�( Address (including zip): �l�/�, l �� ' �� sj 6� �` 722 3rd Street '�103, Hudson, Wis. 54016 � �yJ��j Contactperson: Tim Mather Daytimephone: ��5-760-1941 PROJECT DESCRIPTION: Will any federa] money be used in this project? YES NO�� Are you applying for Investment Tax credrts? YES_NO�� Briefly describe the overall changes to be made to the structure: See Attached- Summary- Remove and replace windows and siding Please describe how each of the following building elen:ents will be affected by the project. If there will be no change, please indicate. Use ptctures to i1la�strate the changes indicaterl below. (Attach additional sheets ifnecessary.) Roof: Foundation: Trim to No ChaNga No Change Decorative feamres: �o change Other (i.e.additions, new construction): No change I, the undersigned, understand that the Building Permit Application is limited to the aforementioned work to the affected property. I further understand that any additional exterior work to be done under my ownership must be submitted by application to the St. Paul Heritage Preservation Commission. Any unauthorized work will be required to be removed. � ir ,.� �?� G'Ko�ac �P�'lf+le•`� LLC / . Signature of Signature of owner: oa,- � 15« BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION �� ( � -___� FOR HPC USE ONLY FILE NO. Date received: Name of building: Tndividual/District: Contributing/Non-contributing/PivotallSupportive/ Typeofwork: Minor/Moderate/Major Supporting data: three copies of plans _photographs other documents Conformance with guidelines: � CITY OF ST. PAUL OFFICE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIQNS AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION 350 ST. PETER STREET, SUITE 300 ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA 55102-1510 GENERAL BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION oa-11 sa Visit our W eb Site at www.ci.stpaui.mn.uslliep State Buildin Contractors License Number if a licable: > MN 2 0 3 231 6 0 Number Sfreet Name St. Ave. Blvd. Etc. N S E W Suite/Apt Building Name Date PROJECT ADDRESS 597 Ho11y Avenue 8/6/02 COn VactO� ' AddIeSS (Petmit will be mailed W the ConKacmr's Addrus) phone }-� � csry 722 3rd St. #103 715 (InSlndeCon�actyPerson�Pentry LLC gtace,zip+a 381-0188 rroPerryowoer Thomas/Kian Carretta d ��1 Charles Lake Rd. Phone csry (IncludeContactPerson) s�ce,z;p+4-North Oaks MN 55127 651-483 Masonry Contractor Address PhOnC N A' Ciry, State Zip+4 Architect Address Phone N� A City, Smte Zip+4 New Structure Existing Structure Commercial Residential Estimated Value of the Total Project ❑ ❑ � Enter Number of > > > ' 2 Residentlai Units Add',Stion RemodGL�Alter Repair � Estimated Start Estimated Finish $ u U Dateo- a�23/0 atQ 10-23-02 $27�000 Descrip[ion of Project Applicant certifies that all infortnation is correct and that ali pertinent state regulations and city ordinances wili b 6�elplied with in perF in [he work for wh'ch is pe �s issued. Remove and replace windows, s'� G�-��x C�� w� remove and replace sidign ' i;xi �a1k..r , µeJ��ser A IicanPs Si naNre PLEASE COh1PLETE THIS SECTION ONLY FOR NEW SIRUCTURE OR ADDITION StiuCture Dimeusion5 (In FOet) 1s a Fire Suppression System Available? (i.e. - sprinkiers) Width Length Height Total Square Feet gasement? Srories Yes or No include basement ❑ ❑ Yes No Lot Dimensions In Feet Set Backs trom Property Liues Lot Wid[h Lot De th Front Back Side 1 Side 2 For O tce Use Onl Chan e/Ex ansion of Use? Yes or No Existing Primary Use Occupancy Group FAX IT? BUiI({ing Pe�7nit Fee g Proposed Rimary Use ConsWC[ion Type Would you like your plan Check Fee permit faxed to you? $ Zoning District: Plan Number Yes PLAN REVIEW REMARKS Na State Surcharge 8 If yes, enter your gpC I fax # > a Total Permit Fee s Permit# S.A.G Charge / Credi[ # ReviewedBy. Date: State Valuation $ — Payment may be made by Cred[t Card. PlEase compiete the foilowtng Informat(on. Cirde Approving Inspecrors Initials Badge of[nspecmr Assigned m Pertnit — Eyr _ ! _�_�_ _�— Account Number Master Card Explration Date: ViSa Month/Year y _ Please STgn & Date Below. Signawre ofCard Holder required for aIl charg r ers. __ � E� va-li5a, Guidelines This application takes into consideration the intent and purpose of the "Guidelines for Design Review-Saint Paul Historic Hill Heritage Preservation DistricP' (the "Guidelines'�. The files of the HPC/Saint Paul for 597 Holly Avenue disclose only that the home, built in 1983, met the new construcrion guidelines but was not designated as "Contributing". Other recent new construction is designated as "N/A" (157 Kent Street) with respect to "Contributing" or "Non-Contributing" to the historic District. Since the home is relatively simple and devoid of any distinctive architechual feariues and does not fit within the time frame used for_definiug a property as "Contributing", presumably 597 Holly Avenue would be considered as "Non-Conhibuting" or "N/A". Sunnlemental Summarv of Work to be Performed Windows: Remove all windows regazdless of current defects, and replace with a11 new Anderson brand similaz sized white wood vinyl clad casement windows in dimensions of the defective existing standard casement windows. Wood trim around windows will be retained and aligned with sills and not "boxed down" per the Guidelines as part of the defective trim replacement. The resultirig appeazance will match current existing structure. Entrances/doors: Replacement of existing glass and metal rear upstairs doors with new equivalent in size and style. The resulring appearance will match current existing structure. . Exterior walls: Removal of defective synthetic Masonite siding and replacement with Triple 3" Wolverine or equivalent brand vinyl siding designed for restorations. Existing wood trim work will be repaired and replaced with wood trim of matching size and profile. Wood trim will be repainted in combination of rosewood and cream. Existing plywood soffits will be replaced with restoration bead board vinyl material. Existing rosewood portion of roof fascia will be covered with rosewood aluminum trim, with any white trim work remaining and painted. The resulting appeazance will match current existing structure. Porches: No change except installation of bead boazd ceilings. Decorative features: All trim work will be retained and repaired as necessary to remove rotten trim, and replaced with wood to match original wood trim. Trim boards, fascia, frieze boards will be painted in complementary taupe color to base siding substantially the same as the sample attached below. The Home: 597 Holly Avenue is a duplex built in August 1983 by David VanLandshutt, of Jusrin Properties, a builder that built a number of identical or neaz identical buildings within and immediately adjacent to the historic district. The building is not designated as "Contributing", presumably due to its 1983 construction on a vacant lot. The building is designed primarily as a modest neo Victorian using Masonite type siding, a syntheric compressed wood fiber product as the original siding choice intended to mimic traditional siding, and Lincoln brand standard casement wood windows. The existing siding is t�l-3 ., �a-►��a "triple 3" and smooth. The casements aze painted wood. A number of other neo Victorian type buildings were built t�roughout the historic district in a like manner, many using vinyl clad casement or vinyl double hung windows and vinyl siding, ali with the intenfion of blending into the neighborhood taken as a whole, and in confomuty with the Guidelines. The Problem: . The Masonite siding used on these structures is approximately 3" compressed wood fiber and resin product formed in groups of tUree clapboards totaling exposed height of approximately 12", n,nning in`sheets approximately 12' to 16'long. Masonite type siding has several defects as a building material, primarily a resin leakage or bleeding problem and resulting "chalking" of the paint surface, as well as swelling and dimensional instability due to poor fabrication techniques and product composition. The defective nature of the product is well documented and the manufacturers have entered into massive class action lawsuit settlements or are engaged in ongoing lawsuits due to the defective chazacteristics of the siding material. See copies attached and websites: www.toolbase.or¢Jdocs/ToolBaseHome/TechNotes/2778 moisture�rob en�wood.hhn; www.masoniteclaims.com; www.rial.com%tiomeissues.htm; www.badsidine.com; The defects comprise resin/w� staining due to leaching, and the leeching causes the paint to "chalk" making the siding extremely poor for repainting and with a greatly shortened repainting life span, and with no cure for swelling. In the case of the subject structure, the siding's lack of water resistance has accelerated the degradation of certain of the trim boards that abut the siding product, resulting in damaged and rotten portions that require replacement. Please see attached materials for a description of settlements, pending actions, problem description with manufacturers of wood composite siding, a descriptive article regarding failure of these products, and "Google" search describing numerous articles and sources ofinformarion. A secondary problem is the exisring windows manufactured by a small window manufacturer. These casement windows and glass insert doors are double pane insulated glass products. The windows aze of poor quality and swell and contract when in contact with moisture, e.g. when a tenant leaves the windows open and rain soaks in. As a result the windows have sustained a 50% plus seal failure rate. In addition, due to the siding failure and poor manufacturing quality (5 yeaz warranty compared to current 10-20 yeaz minimum warranty), many of the lower windows sustained sill rot and dry rot in addition to sash seal failure. The result are windows that leak air and which trap moisture between the glass panes resulring in permanent "foggy�' as well as drafty windows. The Proiect and Solution: In order to bring the building up to the highest standazd, the project is comprised of retaining the existing structure components as close to the original, albeit a neo Victorian, while replacing siding and windows with like, but much better quality, replacements. In this respect the best solution is to replace the defective siding with a compazable replacement, repair existing trim work consistent with the original, and install new �i- y O�-i15a. windows consistent with the original. The solution includes upgrading the windows to Anderson clad casements of the approacimate same size. Their would be no "boxing down" since the windows are very closely sized ufilizing the same rough openings, and the existing wood trim would match the current and the new siding would then mate the trim. Window reveals will remain consistent with the existing, as the old siding will be removed completely to assure the best quality installation. As a rental property and as a general housing stock improvement, the maintenance free siding and clad windows will eliminate the bulk of maintenance and keep the building in a good state of repair and avoid an unsightly future appearance. The trim, and door&ames will remain as is, and paintable in an effort to allow flexible change should that be desired. This will allow havmg mulriple color schemes consistent with the exisring structure, inverted from current with white windows trimmed in msewood. The intent is to have at least four colors: • Taupebody • Rosewood trim azound windows, fascia, door frames, gazage service door "triangle" and Frieze boards • White trimmed windows �� • Cream painted corner boards • Taupe painted doors frames and rosewood painted doors. • Soffits in bead board The selected siding products, the "Restoration Collection" by Wolverine Siding Systems aze designed specifically for historical renovation and new construction seeking an authentic historic appearance. Please see attached brochure. Further attached is a Historical Renovarion Case Studies brochure pmduced by Wolverine that describes several historic renovations, including the Huntington Memorial Library. An actual sample of the siding is filed herewith of Triple 3" in smooth finish along with color samples, identified as prefened by the HPC. I would also like to add some gable vents at the rear of the house and both ends of the garage. As noted, numerous examples of homes using these materials aze present in the District. Of particular note, 157 Kent Street built in 1996, utilizes standard vinyl casement windows, vinyl siding products and vinyl trim in lieu of traditional wide wood trim at 597 Holly Avenue. This similazly located new construcrion building is noted as "N/A" in HPC records with respect to whether it is "Contributing" or "Non-Contributing". Alternative siding choices were considered but rejected due to excessively high costs and continual maintenance issues, whether traditional lap siding or new synthetic fiber cement siding designed to mimic tradirional lap siding (e.g. Hardiplank). In the case of Hardi lap that has been estimated by the manufacturer to be 60% of the cost of wood siding, the cost of Hardi plank as a replacement has been estimated by my contractor at over 50% more than vinyl siding. 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'. � . �` \ ';,e i . , � . ,�� '� 1 � � 1 i � �� , �� , s3 { �_ �- s �«. ' i ,� �� w. x �1— r, _ � a� ;: - _ _, c �:-._.. — `'=.�6- "�`�..�'..�� . _ f,, n "' S •� t '' � � '.: ]3Y' �% � _ � � .� \ \ \ �.< - . : `=;,' ° „r=' _ � :�c ' .. . �:f: -- -, � - � ....:8 �:. �• , : ... --_ �� - _ A `--. �; -r� . _.. _-_ - - � .�1 . — -- � ,., 9�._.�.'= ._ ... � ., i �b` ��, \ � �' . . .. . : ,H-,-', . . ST. CROIX CARPENTRY, LLC Timothy Mather, Member 722 3rd Street, #103 H�dson, Wisconsin 54016 (715) 381-0188 MlY LtC. #20323160 _ TO: TOm And Kian Carretta Qne Charles Lake Road North Qaks MN 55127 8 oa-��sa, PHONE DATE . � uio_�no_conc Q�2��a983 ;. .1 / O A1�SY- - - . . . �'�:�'i,;�:r�- �= 597 Holly,Ave. _ St.` �Paul "MN.K �� F '� � ...cY.�S- _. . :� -".,�u�«. . ,.. 1. Remove all existing horizontal masonite siding. 2. Repair any existing pine trim boards as rrecessary with like materials. 3. Prepare aPorementioned trim boards for primer and paint. 4. Prim and paint trim boards. 5. Remove fifteen existinq casement series windows. 6. Replace aforementioned windows with Anderson vinyl clad casement series windows to match existing sizes and profiles. 7. Install new interior oak trim, stain, seal, and varnish to match original on aforementionec windows. 8. Cover a11 existing sof£it with vinyl beaded wains coating. 9. Cover a11 existing fascia with aluminum cladding. 10. Replace removed horizontal masonite siding with vinyl horizontal siding. Profile and £inish will be best match to original. 11. Cau1k as necessary with tripolymer caulk. 12. Remove and replace two exterior doors with like match. Removal of all debris by St. Croix Carpentry. For the sum of'D 2 �� 0 0 0. 0 0 THIS ESTIMATE IS FOR COMPLETING THE JOB AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. IT IS BASED ON OUR EVALUATION AND DOES NOT IN- CLUDE MATERIAL PRICE INCREASES OR ADDITIONAL LABOR AND MATERIALS WHICH MAY BE REQUIRED SHOULD UNFORESEEN PROBLEMS OR ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS ARISE AFTER THE WORK HAS STARTED. � I ^ I � NOTE.Thisestimatemaybewith-' 09/02/02 tlrawn by us if no cepted by ESTIMATEDBY____L'__�,�;'s%V i ' ' Timothy Mather, Member c��n.r�.,,nn,m,;wvmu,,,o�.n�ii�FU�cincF caiv.�o�u��o.. n. � A ST. CROIX CARPENTRY, LLC Timothy Mather, Member 722 3rd Street, #103 Hudson, Wisconsin 54016 (715) 381-0188 M�Y LIC. #20323160 TO: Tom_ And Kian Carretta =0ne Charles Lake Road , _'ISorth.4aks NIlt 55127 JOB ESTIMAT� oa.ns� PHONE . � pq'(E � a' E��A a,�.?�ons k �. ' S97 Ho71y Ave. - St. Paul"MN '- 597 ;Eiollp,A:ie: 1. Remove all existing horizontal masonite siding. 2. Replace all existing trim boards with "�aines Hardy" lineal trim boards to match existing. 3. Paint aforementioned trim boards. ---- 4. Reiriove fifteen existing casement series windows. 5. Replace aforementioned windows with Anderson vinyl clad casement sezies windows to match existing sizes and profiles. 6. Install new interior oak trim, stain, seal, and varnish to match existing aforementioned removed windows. 7. Remove all existing soffit and fascia. 8. Replace aforementioned soffit and fascia with "Tames Hardy" materials £or best match. 9. Paint replaced soffit and fascia. 10. Remove and replace two exterior doors with like match. 11. Replace aforementioned removed siding with "James Hardy" siding. Pro£ile and finish will be best match to original. 12. Caulk with tripolymer caulk. 13. Paint siding to desired color. Removal of all debris by St. Croix Carpentry, LLC. THIS ESTIMATE IS FOR COMPLETINC� THE J08 AS DESCRIBEO ABOVE. IT IS BASED ON OUfl EVALUATION AND DOES NOT IN- CLUDE MATERIAL PRICE INCREASES OR ADDITIONAL LABOR AND MATERIALS WHICH MAY BE REQUIRED SHOULD UNFORESEEN PflOBLEMS OR A�VERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS ARISE AFTER THE WORK HAS STARTED. For the sum of' �' �, 1� $47,000 � � NUTE:Thisestimatemay ith-, 9/02/02 drawn by us if no c� ESTIMATED BY --_ Tfmothy Mather, Member AN APPEARANCE THAT SETS IT CLEARLY APART Time-Honored, Not Time-Worn Because of ics authencic finish and appearance, The Resroracion Collec�ion and ics Rescorationm Smooch finish are widely accepred by hiscoric commissions for hiscoric renovacions and specified by archireccs, builders and home- owners for such uses. IFyou ancicipare such a projecc, you may be interested in obtaining Historic Restoration e� Renovation, Tbe Cizre for The Restoration Collection°, Wolverine publication number WT103. While suitable for restoraxions, Rescoration Classic siding and Archicectural Elements are very much in demand for new, contemporary designs and construaion, even lighc commercial projeccs. The historically established profiles and eleganc finish have never gone ouc of fashion. oa-i rs�, � � Introducing a New Great Choice of Finishes Restora�ion Classic°' siding and Restoration Architectural Elements"' incroduced che authen- cic-looking, low-gloss Rescoration� Smoo�h finish on triple 3" and double 4.5" clapboard profiles. Now, Restoracion Classic"' offers a new contemporary Select The lou�-�lo.�s. =nroorli Rertorakon C�a�t� fz�ra/�. Gere in Shnle (810J iuith tr�im r�i S�rm� '800J, off'ers appeale:ag gooAlook; <r%rd laie mainten�ence for tmdrr: o;ial.ire� � o�eter�t j�or¢ry homes. ��, Cedar grain finish, on nvo ne.� prohle�. double 4" clapboard and double 4S" dutchlap. Wh�chz�er tinish and whacever profile you choose for your home, it «iIl have, and sustain, Res on /wsu Smaoth Fhuh � �� / '� G/ Renoranon CLuria Trzple3" ClapboarC Restaration Smooth �I �'� � Renoration CGunc Doub[e 45"CGepboard Ressorarion Smooth � � �` / �/ R0t0Y4h0/) C�OSSIf Doub[e 4"Clapboan! Se1e�t Cedtrgraiie an appealin� appearance chat �� i11 be so zas� m maintain. � � � RPSIO)QStOR CGIJS}C Doub[e 4S"Durtblap Sekct CeArtr grair: Tl�r r�td�tional, autbentic fni_/� er t r: feet frir remodeling l�i�ro� � ancl new /�o-��e;. Sbowra is Clas,ic D�. � ' �lapboard sideng in S/�.�.r �810). Corners mz�l t_dc :rrrrdam ared door �rn�or-arle m�e in contrasting .S9d020 �8�0�. �'r � V � Rertomtrore CGt=rn Se[ett Cedar o rrin Fn::;h -u Historic Renovation Case Studies The Wolverine Exterior Design System Wolverine� � Great Looks that last."" ��-19 �- :_ - �, --�� Y_. .. _. �d. – =–��—r� – =� _�_ _�-_. oa-� 15�., Virginia Victorian gets needed make-over Challenge: Res[ore this old-timer to iu turn-of-the-century appeal. The existing siding has been ravaged by weather over the years and cannot be saved. Most of the trim, however is salvageable. As neaz as feasible, the homeowners and their selec[ed contractor agree to "...follow the rules of hisroric rescoraxion as much as possible. Solution: The Wolverine Ex[erior Design System, wirh Wea[herstone� D5 dutchlap siding, Restoration� Beaded Sof&t and selected Architectural Elemencs'" trim. There's no question that "following the rules" made this projecc just that much more difficult But it was necessary to fulfill rhe azeas historic commission regulations. As the old siding was stripped from the structure, there were many deusions to be made as to "Rescue or replace?" (as had been anticipated). It was cleaz from the beginning [hat the siding was beyond rescue. Because the commission regulations favor siding thax "dosely matches che original and that on other neighborhood struaures," Weatherstone siding looked right and was chosen. To fit the surrounding color schemes, Wicker was selected as the coloc The majority of the [rim would be Snow, or white. As opposed to the siding, much of the historic uim was deemed recoverable. Saved were the brackeu under the eaves, as well as all the porch dewration, including columns, railings and balusters. Restoration Beaded Soffit replaced the sagging porch ceiling and was i�stalled vercically as a bandboazd between the second floor windows and the attic gable. It also replaced the old soffit under the eaves, accomplished without removing the newly renovated brackeu. Wolverine one- piece corners replaced the home's original wide comer posts. Resroration rules undisrurbed, the old V'iaorian conrinues ro serve iu owners we1L And they have the added benefiu of reduced mainxenance and a 50 year warranry. ��-7i� The windmo casings Snovi (900) alssminum coil smtk, in palyatervcoated white, as are marry af the demrative moldings Weather.runetiding clapboardprofiks, D4" and DS': Dutchlap u a DS"profile. All are availabk in 9popular colars and a low glars wood grain finirh. � \ I_ b// D�-IIS�.. A new chapter for a historic library Challenge: Preserve the original authentic beaury of an old library to meet historic commission requiremenu, as well as wmmercial needs for low-maintenance, quality and longevity. Solution: Install The Wolverine Exterior Design System induding siding, corners and soffit; repaint the original wood trim to maintain historic integrity. The Huntington Memorial Library was built as a private home in 1880. Mr. Huntington, the original owner, donated the home to the ciry to be used as a public library. When renovaring a hisxoric building, most hiscoric commissions insist on preserving special fearures [hat are azchiteaurally significant, and choosing siding that closely duplicates the original wood siding. Looking at all the siding choices available, Wolverine was selected for its historically correct styles and azchi[eaural integriry. The fac[ that Wolverine siding is made of low-maintenance vinyl is another bonus that is gready appreciated by historic preservaxionists. Mosc of the original trim was left intact and repainced. The old siding, corner trim and soffi[ were replaced with vinyl siding and trim to reduce the amount of repainting. The vinyl looks so much like freshly-painted wood, it's hazd ro tell where xhe wood stops and the vinyl begins. The result is a renovation that captures the spirit of the past with the advantage of long-lasting beaury. �c I — ZZ oa - lisd. s�„ r�,�, �sos� Trim.• Snow (800) Contracmr: The Pawell Camparry � Aluminum farcia finitbu a�the roofGne. Wolverine's one piece rornerpostp>ovides the necasary receiving pocket for the siding ruithout dutracteng fsom tbe bistoric ornrsmentatiorz Resm�ation� BeaAeC Soffz't is ured for typica! soffit appk2atian irz tbe eavet asul ovnhangl. Is also adds visual interest ar a vertical accrnc ter 5 A�I-Z3 � > Moisture-Related Problems with Engineered Wood Siding Page 1 of 3 oa-„s� ToolBase Services - The Home Building Yndustry's Technical Information Resource Programs & Ask an E- ToolBase Fiel Technoloav Services: ExaErt Cdews iV� sul`s Inveniorv_ Research Site Index: A-M, N-Z HE�P . . = � �S$�iVICE� Home» Niood Pramz Construaion � Enoi�eered 1MO�d Standard version of this oaae � J . �.,. June 2062 MOISTURE-RELATED PROBLEMS WITH ENGINEERED WOOD SIDING INTRODUCTION Engineered wood sidings are made from various cambinations of wood veneers, fibers or flakes, bound together with glues, resins, and/or waxes. Plywood, oriented strand board (OSB), and hardboard are basic engineered wood siding materials. Several difFerent types and brands of engineered wood siding have experienced moisture-related failures due to product or instailation defects, or improper maintenance. IDENTIFYING SIDTNG MANUFACTURERSjFRODUCTS . Look for names, logos, etc. on the back side of the siding. It may be possibie to see the �OCK irJii removiry i Siuii�y iii �idCES SiiCi3 8S Uilfii�i5 ydfaye5 vi diiiCS. Si S1U'iiiy is removed, it is best to remove a full-length piece to ensure that any markings printed on the back will be found. . Contact manufacturers or settlement claims websites/call centers for information on particular identifying characteristits. . Obtain The Siding Book: A Fieid Manual fo� Identification of Composrte Siding and Damage by Siding Solutions, Inc. (see Resources). • Consult a home builder, siding installer, building materials or siding supplier, home inspector, and/or siding consultant such as Siding Solutions, Inc. . Manufacturers or others may be of greater assistance if you can provide them with any or all of the fol3owing information: o Siding material: plywood, hardboard, OSB o Siding type: lap (horizontal baards) or panel {typica(ly start as 4 ft. x 8 or 4 ft. x 9 ft. sheets) o Front-side texturejpattern: smooth v. textured {e.g., wood grain, saw texture, etc.) o Back-side texture/pattern: smooth v. screen or wafffe pattern o Logos AJ--Z`f http://www.toolbase..Jtertiary�rintT.asp?TrackID=&CategoryID=1152&DocusnentID=277 7/23/2002 Moisture-Related Problems with Engineered Wood Siding Page 2 of 3 �a-,�5� o Manufacturing plant and/or association codes: e.g., AHA ##, where ## is a plant number. LEGAL ACTIONS Class action lawsuits (national- and state-Ievel} have been filed against several manufacturers. Settlements have been reached in some cases; others are pending or have been dismissed. Contact manufacturers, your state's Attorney General's o�ce� and the Defective Hardboard Siding Infarmation Center (see Resources) for up-to-date informatian regarding legal actions. ManufacturersJproducts having reached final legal satttements: . Louisiana-Pacific Inner-Seal brand of OSB (oriented strand board). Lap and panel products (earlier known as Waferwood). A claim for damages can be filed until January 1, 2003. Website: http:flwww.ipsidingclaims.com. . Masonite Lap and panel hardboard siding products; available in various external textures designed to resemble conventional lumber products. Typically identiPied by a stamp with the name "Masonite" andJor the number "X90". Final Settlement approval was granted on January 15, 1998, in the lawsuit known as Naef v. Masonite. The Settlement provides a program for eligible ciaimants to recover the costs assaciated with damage caused by the installation and incorporation of Masonite Hardboard Siding. If you own Masonite Hardboard Siding installed on a home or other structure between ]anuary 1, 1980 and December 31, 1989, you must file your claim(s) by ]anuary 15, 20Q5. If you own Masonite Hardboard Siding installed on a home or other structure between ]anuary 1, 1990 and ]anuary 15, 1998, you must file your claim(s) by January 15, 2008. Ciaims phone: 800-330-2722 Website: http:llwww.masoniteclaims.com. ManufacturersJproducts with pending or ongoing lawsuits or preliminary settlements: . Boise-Cascade Hardboard siding. A ciass action has been filed in Illinois. Check the [�e€ectsve Hardhoar� Siding_Informatian_CenteC websit� for more information. • Georgia-Pacific Jarrait and Catawba hardboard Iap or panel siding. R settlement, which has been preliminarily approved by the court, still must receive final court approvai (as of 8J18/98). Ciaims phone: 888-882-5246. . Wiasonite Omni-Wood OSB-based siding. Lap or panei siding, or trim product. On August 7, 1998, a settlement was granted preliminary approval. A final hearing was set for January 6, 1999. You must file by December 20, 1998, in order to be excluded from the settlement. Call 800-256-6990 for more information. . ABTCo (Abitib'sJAbitib's-Price} Hardboard siding manufactured by ABTCo is the subject of one or more class actian suits. The !aw firm handling the case in Alabama (potentialiy a nationai c(ass action} is Ezell & Sharbrough, 407 Conti Street, Mobile, AL 3660Z. Phone: 334-432-1413 �� ^Z � http://www.toolbase.../tertiary�rintT.asp?TrackID=&CategoryID=1152&DocumentID=277 7/23/2002 Moishxre-Related Problems with Engineered Wood Siding Fax: 334-432-5297. Page 3 of 3 Oa-I I 5a. . Jefferson SmurFit Corporation Cladwood siding product. following information quoted directly from the Defective Hardboard Siding Information Center website visited October 2, 1998: "lefFerson Smu�t Corporation and Smu�t Newsprint Corporatian, its wholly owned subsidiary ('SNC'), have been served in a purported class action entitled Carolyn Cave-Woods, et. ano. v. Jefferson SmurFit Corporation, et al, Na. 97-2-14958-ISEA (Washington Superior Court) afleging negligence, unfair trade practices and breach of express warranty regarding SNC's Cladwood siding product. On April 17, 1998, the Court in this case denied the plaintiff's motion seeking to certify a nationwide class, but did certify a class of all persons who own or have owned buiidings in Washington and Oregon with Cladwood siding. The Company and SNC intend to seek discretionary review of +h�,Tr., ,.r�� ..�.�la�'°��n,�f'6o��,... �:..., — � �� ra�� and �e defend �he ae�ien v-ige;e�r��y." . Weyerhaeuser Hardboard siding. State-levei dass actions exist in many states. Check the Defective Hardboard Siding_Snforma�ion Center website. RESOURCES s American Hardboard Association (AFIA) Website: http_flwww.hardboard.orgJ 1220 W. Northwest Hwy, Palatine IL, 60067-3607 Phone 847-934-8800 AHA can heip with identification of hardboard siding products aver the phone. Be sure to have aIl passible ID information as noted above available. . Defective Hardboard Siding Information Center (internet only) Website: http:JJwww.badsidin ,�coml Siding Solutions, Inc. vJeosite: nitp;jJwww.sidingsolutions.com_ 3535 SW Multnomah B(vd., Suite #104, Portland, Oregon 97219 Phone 503-244-6610 Fax 503-452-0653 Consultant and publisher of: The Siding eook: A Field Manual forZde�tification of Composite Siding and Damage :. . .. This document is designed to provide accurate and authoritative information in regard to the subject matfer covered. It is provided with the understanding that the NAHB Research Ceofer, lnc. is not engaged in rendering legal, accounting, or other professional service. if legal advice or other expert service is required, fhe services of a competent professional person should be sought. Want more information on this topic?,4sk an Experi at the ToolBase Hotline. Tool6ase Services Go NAHB Research Center 400 Prince Georges Blvd. Upper Marlboro, MD 20774 301249.4000 t 800.638.8556 www.taolbase ora � �:� �.. '� ��. �'^� http://www.toolbase.../tertiary�rintT.asp?TrackID=&CategoryID=1152&DocumentID=277 7/23/2002 � Masonite Hazdboard Siding Class Action Settlement Web Site Masonite� Hardboard Siding Class Action Settlement Official tiVeb Site Page 1 of 1 On January 15, 1998, the Circuit Court of Mobile County, Alabama, granted final approval to a Settlement in the lawsuit known as Naef v. Masonite, CV-94-4033. The Settlement provides a program for eligible claimants to recover the costs associated with damage caused by the uvstallation and incorporation of Masonite Hardboazd Siding. . For more information or to reeeive a Notice of Class Action Settlement and the claim form, _ „iP��P ,.an i _Qnn_�z�n-?��? � Masonite is a r.egistered irademazk of Masonite Corporation. CLICK E�ERE TO VIEW THE NOTICE T7us web s�te is maintained by the Claims Administrator, Rust Consulnng, Iuc. �� ^ � I http://www.masoniteclaims.coxn/masonite/index.hhnl 7/23/2002 � The Residential Inspector of America Before Louisiana Pacific siding was a known issue (5+ years ago), many inspectors called LP siding Masonite siding. M old inspection report naming the siding as Masonite could possibly be incorrect. Masonite siding can be identified by a series of markings printed on the backside of a piece of siding. You must have a piece removed to see these markings, and thus positively identify the siding. Here's a picture of the markings: �.f °° ��:� °` � �. X_LJ.Q m ::::_-.-�::-: Masonite siding has experienced many problems, and a class action suit has been filed against the manufactures of Masonite. Problems include: buckling, penetrating nail heads, swelling, fungus growth, and wax bleeding. The class action suit covers Masonite siding installed between January 1, 1980 and January 15, 9998. If the siding was installed between 198D-1989, the #iling deadline is January 15, 2005. If the siding was installed between 1990 and 1998, the filing deadline is January 15, 2008. To file a claim on Masonite Siding call 1-800-330-2722. `back t�.o top) Mold in the Home Because of the amount of information we have on mold growth, we've dedicated a whole page to it. Click Here jback �.o top) Page 5 of 5 oa- usa. Home Book OniineiPriceQuote Ins�ection Services Why We are the Best Insoector Profiles Homebuy@rlSelier issues Home Maintenance Freyuent Question§ Cp�tact Us important Links THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTOR OF AMERICA 770.476.4963 office 770.623.0650 fax Copyright of The Residential Inspector of America, 2002 �1 _ rV http://www.rial.cozn/homeissues.htm 7/23/2002 CITY OF SAINT PAUL Rnndy G Kel/y, Mnyor August 23, 2002 Tim Mather St. Croix Carpentry LLC 722 3r Street #103 Hudson, WI 54016 Re: 597 Holly Avenue, Hill Historic District File #B02-325, building permit Dear Mr. Mather: OFFICE OF L[CENSE, MSPECTIO�S AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIO` Roger G Cunis, Dvectar LOWRYPROFESSIONAL BUILD/.\'G Sr�ite 300 350 S�. Peter Street SnintPau[, Minnesota 55l01-I510 Telephone: 65/-266-9090 Facsimile: 651-266-9099 As you lrnow, the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) considered at its August 22, 2002 meeting your application to replace «indows, install vinyl siding and beadboard and to �vrap fascia in aluminum to the property listed above. The commission voted unanimously to deny your application. This decision �vas based on the discussion at the public hearing meeting, public testimony and the staff report. In addition to the motion, the Commission recognized that wood windows were replaced with vinyl windows without HPC approval or a building permit (Chapter 73, Section 73.06 describes Penalty for Violation of Preservation Ordmance). As part of the denial, the Commission moved to refer this case to the City Attomey's Office to take appropriate action. You or any aggrieved party has the right to appeal the Commission's decision to the Saint Paul Ciry Council under Chapter 73 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code. Such an appeal must be filed within 14 days of the date of the HPC's order and decision. Chapter 73 states: h) Appeal to ciry coe�ncil. The pennit applicant or an}' party aggrieved by the decision of the heritnge preservation canmission shnll, within fatrrteeit (!4) days of the date oJthe heritage preservation commission's order mid decision, have a right to appeal such order and decision to tke city council. The appeal shall be deemed perfected upon receipt by the �lirision ofplanning [LIEP] of�vo (2J copies ofa notice ofappeal and statement serting forth the grounds for the appeal. The division ofplamting [LIEP] shall transmit one copv of the notice of nppeal and stntement to the cig� coimcil nnd one copy to the herirage preservatian commissiat The commission, in air} }vritten order denying a perneit appl�cation, sha[I advise the applicant of the right to appeal to rhe ciry coiu:ci! and include this paragraph in all such orders You may also revise the proposed design in response to HPC rr�embers conczms. The next deadline for a permit review is September 11. Please feel free to cali me at 6� 1.266.9078 if you have any questions. Sincerely, Amy Spo� Historic Preservation Specialist cc: Steve Ubl, building inspector AZ �� File�' C(+:�oma5 Ca%rre-�f°--rawhe.— �9enda �m � File #B02-325 CITY OF SAINT PAUL C�1' �� Sa HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMNIISSION STAFF REPORT FILE NAME: 597 Holly Avenue DATE OF APPLICATION: August 8, 2002 APPLICANT: St. Croix Carpentry, LLC DATE OF HEARING: August 22, 2002 HPC SITE/DISTRICT: Hill Historic District CATEGORY: new conshuction CLASSIFICATION: building permit STAFF INVESTIGATION AND REPORT: Amy Spong DATE: August 15, 2002 A. SITE DESCRIPTION: 597 Holly Avenue is a two story wood frame structure constructed in 1983. The building is classified in the Hill Historic District as new construction which means that the HPC reviewed the proposal prior to its' construction and found the proposal complied with the Hill District Design Review Guidelines for New Construction. The original resolution showing a condition approval is included in the packet. The wood frame walls have Masonite siding and trim with wood casement windows and the two story front porch is open. The hipped roofhas asphalt shingles. B. PROPOSED CHANGES: The applicant is proposing the following changes to the structure: 1. To replace all Masonite siding with smooth triple-three Wolverine vinyl siding. 2. To cover existing wood fascia with aluminum. 3. To cover plywood soffit with vinyl beadboard. 4. To replace all windows with Anderson wood with vinyl clad casement windows. 5. To maintain and repair the Masonite window trim and comer boards 6. To install beadboard at the two porch ceilings, however, it was not noted with what material. C. GUIDELINE CITATIONS: Historic Hill District Design Review Guidelines New Construction A. General Principles: The basicprinciple for new construction in the Historic Hill District is to maintain the district's scale and quality of design. The Historic Hill District is architecturally diverse within an overall pattern of harmony and continuity. These guidelines for new construction focus on general rather than specifzc design elements in order to encourage architectural innovation and quality design while maintaining the harmony and continuity of the district. New construction should be compatible with the size, scale, massing, height, rhythm, setback, color, material, building elements, site design, and character of surrounding structures and the area. D. Materials and Details: Yariery in the use of architectural materials and details adds to the intimacy and i4Z- 3D oa-i i s a File #B02-325 visual delight of the district. But there is also an overall thread of continuity provided by the range of materials commonly used by turn-of-the-century builders and by the way these materials were used. This thread of continuity is threatened by the introduction of new industrial materials and the aggressive exposure of earZier materials such as concrete block, metal framing, and gZass. The purpose of this section is to encourage the proper use of appropriate materials and details. The materials and detaiZs of new construction should relate to the materials and details of existing nearby buildings. Preferred roof materials are cedar shingles, slate and tile; asphalt shingles which match the approximate coZor and texture of the preferred materials are acceptable substitutes. Imitative materials such as asphalt siding, wood-textured metal or vinyl siding, artificial stone, and artifcial brick veneer should not be used. Smooth four-inch lap vinyl, metal, or hardboard siding, when well installed and carefully detailed, may be acceptable in some cases. Materials, including their colors, will be reviewed to determine their appropriate use in relation to the overall design of the structure as well as to surrounding structures. Color is a signifzcant design element, and paint colors should relate to surrounding structures and the area as well as to the style of the new structure. Building permits are not required for painting and, although the Heritage Preservation Commission may review and comment on paint coZor, paint color is not subject to Heritage Preservation Commission approval. E. Bui[ding Elements: Individual elements of a building should be integrated into its composition for a balanced and complete design. These elements for new construction should compliment existing adjacent structures as well. 2. Windows and Doors. The proportion, size, rhythm and detailing of windows and doors in new construction should be compatible with that of existing adjacent buildings. Most windows on the Hill have a vertical orientation, with a proportion of between 2:1 and 3:1 (height to width) common. Individual windows can sometimes be square or horizontal if the rest of the building conveys the appropriate directional emphasis. Facade openings of the same general size as those in adjacent buiZdings are encouraged. Wooden double-hung windows are traditional in the Historic Hill District and should be the first choice when selecting new windows. Paired casement windows, although not historically common, will often prove acceptable because of their vertical orientation. Sliding windows, awning windows, and horizontally oriented muntins are not common in the district and are generally unacceptable. Vertical muntins and muntin grids may be acceptable when compatible with the period and style of the building. Sliding glass doors should not be used where they would be visible from the street. Although not usuaZZy improving the appearance of a building, the use of inetal windows or doors need not necessarily ruin it. The important thing is that they should look like part of the building and not like raw metal appliances. Appropriately colored or bronze-toned aluminum is acceptable. Mill finish (sliver) aZumi�aum should be avoided. D. FINDINGS: 1. The site is classified a newer construction to the Hill Historic District. 2 /�� J� oa-t�sa File #B02-325 2. The guidelines state that `Imitative materials such as asphalt siding, wood-textured metal or vinyl siding, artificial stone, and artificial brick veneer should not be used. Smooth four-inch lap vinyl, metal, or hardboard siding, when well installed and carefully detailed, may be acceptable in some cases. " The applicant is proposing a smooth four-inch lap vinyl siding which may be acceptable. 3. The Standards recommend against "Using substitute materials for the replacement part that does not convey the visual appearance of the surviving parts of the wood feature or that is physically or chemically incompatible. " 4. Wrapping wood with aluminum does not convey the same visual appearance, nor does vinyl beadboard convey the same visuai appearance as wood beadboard. 5. Wrapping all the wood fascia and adding vinyl beadboazd would adversely impact the architectural integrity of the house and historic district. 6. It seems appazent the front facade casement windows were recently replaced and without HPC approval or a building permit. The windows cleariy ha�e a different profile than the existing wood casement windows and the new windows have been `blocked down', which is evident from the unpainted, `infill' him around the new casements. This practice cleazly does not comply with the guidelines which state "Enlarging or reduczng window or door openings to fit stock window sash or new stock door sizes should not be done." 7. Detailed drawings for the proposed Anderson windows were not provided. E. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Based on the findings, staff does not recommend approval of the building permit as proposed. Staff would recommend approving a building permit for the following: 1. Installation of Wolverine smooth triple-three vinyl siding in an appropriate color. 2. Replacement of a rear metal and glass door with same. 3. All window and door trim, corner boazds, porch ceilings, soffits and fascia must remain wood or wood beadboard where applicable. (No vinyl beadboard or wrapping in aluminum). 4. There was not enough information provided regazding the profile and sash style of the new proposed windows and the new front windows do not comply with the guidelines. These issues should be dealt with under a separate permit review. f�Z- 3Z- � �1�V�v"e � da-�i5a NIINUTES OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMIVIISSION CIT`Y OF SAINT PAUL, NIINNESOTA Room 40, I.ower Level, City HalUCourt House August 22, 2002 Present: James Bellus (chair), Judith Benton, Susan Bartlett Foote, Lee Meyer, Ray Meyer, Dan Scott, Shari Taylor Wilsey Members Absent: Excused: 7oseph Errigo, Gaz Hargens, Paul Lazson, Richazd Murphy, Dudley Younldn Staff Present: Julie Hoff; John Sla�adski and Amy Spong I. CALL TO ORDER: 5:15 p.m. by James Bellus. II. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA - The agenda was approved as presented. III. PERMIT REVIEW/PUBLIC HEARING 432 Summit Avenue - for a building permit to construct a 6 foot balcony at the widow's walk on the roof. • Spong reviewed her staff report. • John Rupp, owner, presented. He reviewed the history of the project and stated that the HPC had denied a similaz request on July 25, 2002, but that this proposal is new and revised from the previous. Ae stated that the following changes have been made: • The deck is reduced to 6 feet. • The proposal will not affect the belvedere on the north side. • On the south side, the deck will be pulled out 6 feet and there will be flashing materials added to the south, west and east sides. Rupp showed the east and west elevarions. Rupp showed elevafion drawings for the east and west and some 1860's photos which had been altered with Photoshop to poriray the impact of the proposed deck. He stated that the photos demonstrate that the addition will not significantly alter the building. • Rupp then addressed some of the concerns raised by nearby residents. • Benton questioned if the deck will impact the building's use. Rupp stated that it will not affectthe use. • Paul Mohrbacher, 442 Sununit, spoke in opposition to the proposed deck. Mohrbacher questioned the proposed use of the deck and its impact on the historic character of the building. • Jennifer Windsor, 11 Summit Ct., spoke in opposition to the proposed deck. She stated that heritage preservation is the most critical issue, but that she will be affected by any acrivity that takes place on the deck. She stated that Suimnit Avenue is considered the best preserved Victorian street in the counhy and that it is crirical to preserve it. • Matt Watters wrote in favor of the proposed deck. • Tom Spence wrote in opposition to the proposal. • Allen and Sue Campbell, 12 Smnmit Court, wrote in opposition to the proposal. • Carol Barseness, wrote in opposifion to the proposal. • The public hearing was closed. • Lee Meyer made a motion to approve the staff recommendation. Wilsey offered a second. • Foote spoke in opposirion to the motion. She stated the home represents the Italian-villa �3- 33 �� Imow. • The applicant was not present. • Bellus opened the public hearing. • Lou Sudheimer, 439 Portland, stated that the HPC is here to preserve and that he is frustrated by people who claim they don't lrnow the laws and don't apply for permits. He urged the HPC to deny the pernut. • Scott made a motion to deny the permit WIIsey offered a second. • Benton asked about the history of the changes. Spong stated that she lmows that the Fire mazshal required the changes because the stairway was out of compliance with the fire code. • Spong stated that in discussions she had with the owner and the contractor that both stated that the fire marshal had required the changes. She also stated that the owner told her several times that the new was a great improvement over the former. • Foote asked if they would have needed a pernut no matter what, even if it wasn't in a preservation disirict. Spong stated that they did need a pernut no matter what. • Bellus stated that the changes are not something the HPC would have approved as proposed and that is the reason for the denial. • The motion carried unanimouslv. ��, 597 Holly Avenue - for a building permit to replace windows and doors, replace Masonite siding with vinyl siding and repair wood trim. • Skradski reviewed the staff report which recommended approval with condirions. • Benton questioned when the new windows were installed. Sla�adski replied that he did not laiow. • Jandeen Bcsh stated that she is representing the owner, who is out of town. She stated that the windows were replaced on an emergency basis because the exterior frames had rotted and some windows had even fallen in. When the project is complete, the new windows will be the same size as the previous windows and will be vinyl-clad, Anderson windows with wood interiors. • Ecsh reviewed photos of other homes that show use of similar materials. She stated that wood windows can be problemaric with western exposures and that they often do not hold-up well. • Scott asked if the applicant is ok with the staff recommendafion? She stated that he is comfortable with recommendations 1 and 2. • Tim Mather, project manager, stated that he recommended the vinyl-clad, casement windows. • Bellus stated that the windows will require a separate application because there is not enough information about them and that he prefers only to deal with the issues that the HPC will be approving today. • Mather stated that the owner would prefer to wrap the windows and door trim with vinyl and/or aluminum. • Lou Sudheimer, 439 Portland Avenue, stated that this home is only 20 years old and it is already falling apart. The owner should try using quality materials that will last. HE also stated that there are many new construcrion examples in the District where they are not an intrusion. • Brad Daniels, 575 Holly, stated that he is opposed to any use of vinyl siding; wood should be required. The owner needs to be encouraged to make the property better. • John Mercer, 596 Holly, stated that he is opposed to the pernut as proposed. He doesn't want the property to get any worse as he has worked hard to preserve his own property. He stated that the building has not been maintained since the owner moved out in the 80's. He is glad the owner is maldng some improvements, but that he needs to comply with the guidelines. He stated he is very concerned about the windows. .43 3`f � oa- i i5� • Art Tazenrite, 603 Aolly, stated that the owner moved out in 1987 and hasn't touched the property since he left. He stated he is an absentee landlord of the worst kind. He is opposed to the pernut as proposed. • Spong read a letter into the record from Jill and Randy Ross, opposing the project as proposed. • Bellus closed the public hearing. • L. Meyer made a motion to deny the permit because the application is incomplete and what is complete is inconsistent with the Hill District guidelines. Wilsey offered a second. • Benton asked if the owner had received a settlement of any ldnd for the failed Masonite siding. Spong stated not to her Imowledge. • Wilsey questioned what the HPC can do to enforce the HPC guidelines when people do work without permits. Spong stated that it would be a misdemeanor charge if the HPC chose to pursue it. Wilsey recommended pursuing misdemeanor charges. • Pwsuant to the guidelines, Scott agreed with Wilsey and stated that 597 Holly Avenue and 316 Maria Street should be referred to the city attomey's office for further investigafion. • R. Meyer questioned if the HPC would want to advise the applicant to use double-hung windows versus casement windows. In any event, the applicant should take this as a sign that a new proposal should adhere to the guidelines. • Bellus stated that he is concemed about continued exterior deteriorafion and that contrary to some of the comments made by members of the public, vinyl siding may be allowed in historic districts, on a case-by-case basis, and only if it is appropriately detailed. Bellus also stated that the proposal is incomplete and inconsistent with the guidelines. • Foote stated that the applicant may want to come in for design review. • Benton stated that all proposals in the past for vinyl siding have been hotly contested. • The motion to deny the permit was approved unanimously. • 449 Portland Avenue for a building permit to construct a 2'h story carriage house • Spong reviewed her staff report and recommended approval of the pernut as proposed. • Spong stated that plan review had some concerns about whether or not there are frost-free foorings beneath the existing two gazage walls. Plan reviewers had also expressed concern that the three french windows on the alley-side elevation may be large enough to require a guard rail. • Spong stated that the carriage house setback must comply with the same setback as the existing house or a variance would be required. The current proposal does not require any more variances. • The owner/applicant clarified some of the items on the staff report. He stated that the proposed structure is 20 feet lower than the existing house. He also stated that there is a carriage house of similar size immediately to the west of the proposed structure. In addition, he stated that the proposed structure is 42 feet wide, not 50 feet wide. • The applicant introduced Mervyn Hough, 436 Portland, to describe the project. Hough stated that he was the president of Old Town Restorations. He also stated he will check on the issues that plan review had raised, but that he is certain that the french windows are not to the floor, and therefore, should not require a guard rail. He also stated that the side yard setback needs to be the same as the garage or two feet. • Hough showed photos of neazby carriage houses. • Hough stated that the essence of the exisring home is its height - at 50 feet tall it is one of the taller homes, and is also narrow. • He stated that the storm windows haue paned glass, even those on the fourth floor. • He stated that some of the structure will be visible from Portland, but that the major impact will be on the alley. He also stated that the side yazd of the home immediately to the right, A3-3� od- ��Sa CITY OF SAINT CITY COUNCIL AND OFFICE OF LICENSE, INSPECTIONS AND ENVIRONIVIENTAL PROTECTION THOMAS F. CARRETTA, APPELLANT. NOTICE OF APPEAL AND STATEMENT SETTING FORTH THE GROi.JNDS FOR APPEAL OF THE DEr]IAL OF APPLICATION FOR IMPROVEMENT BY HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION Pursuant to the chapter 73 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code, the undersigned owner of 597 Holly Avenue appeals the denial of the application for replacement of defecrive windows, and siding and replacement of the same with new windows vinyl siding. STATEMEIVT OF AGGRIEVED PARTY This appeal is taken on the basis that the decision by the Heritage Preservation Commission ("F3PC") to deny all or any part of the application: is not consistent with the Heritage Preservation Commission Guidelines for Design Review: is not consistent with the staff report prepared for the HPC by the Historic Preservarion Specialist for the HI'C; and is inconsistent with the public testimony and materials presented at the hearing. Further, the decision to deny all ar any part of the application was made arbitrarily in a capricious manner in light of aliowed designs and materials use as stated in the Guidelines. The denial is adverse to stated City policy regarding the goal to improve existing rental housing stock, general promotion of energy efficiency, and is inconsistent with numerous instances of allowing vinyl siding, vinyl clad windows and aluminum fascia treahnent and installation within the District. PRELINIINARY INFORMATION The undersigned is the owner of the two-family residential property located at 597 Holly Avenue, Saint Paul (the "Propert}�'). The Properiy is located within the Historic Hill Heritage a�-3� oa-u5a Preservation District (the "DishicY'). The undersigned filed an application for the unprovement of the Property as set forth on Exhibit A attached hereto. The undersigned was represented at the August 22, 2002 meeting of the F31'C by the applicant St. Croi�c Carpentry LLC and 7andeen Esch. The City of St. Paul has within its boundaries a Dishict containing among the number of properties, many of noteworthy nahue in an area defined by geographic boundaries rather than individually designated structures. Within the District, the properties aze comprised of three classifications, "Contributing", "Non-Contributing" and "New Construction". The Property was built in 1983 and was noted as compliant "New Construction" when built. The Properiy is a frame shucture with simulated clapboard siding made from compressed wood fibers and resins and sold under the brand name "Masonite". The Property has wood casement windows throughout bordered by stock brick molding, and stock size wood trim. Masonite type siding is the subject of multiple national class action lawsuits. The undersigned is qualified as a claimant in these actions. Double pane windows with broken seals are also the subjects of much discussion concerning window seal failure resulting in leaky energy inefficient "foggy windows" (trapped condensation between the panes)? There is no dispute that the siding has failed and requires replacement, and that the windows have likewise failed and require replacement. The dispute therefore centers on the choice of materials, a matter that is not proper subject matter for ' Staff Report. z httu://www.energv.state.md.us/tips/windows.html indicating aluminum or vinyl clad windows are superior to all wood windows both from energy perfoxxnance and maintenance perspecrives; http://www.rebuildin�center.or¢/inventory/ a non-profit organization which accepts used building materials, except for windows with broken seals characterized by permanent condensarion fogging; The httn://www.efficientwindows.org/factsheets/minnesota.pdf Efficient Windows web site is a non-profit site sponsored by the Efficient Windows Collaborative (EWC) with support from the U.S. Department of Energy's Windows and Glazings Progam and the participarion of indushy members; regarding superior energy efficiency of a properly sealed and operating window 2 �t�-3� oa-�ESa dictarion by any neighboring property owners, when the choice of building materials meets the Guidelines standazds for the District. The undersigned has chosen materials that meet the Guidelines and have been approved in the District numerous tunes in the past. BASIS FOR APPEAL 1. The Decision By The Heritage Preservafion Commission To Deny Is Not Consistent With The Heritage Preservation Guidelines. The HPC oversees the nahxre of improvements within the District and applies the Guidelines adopted by the HPC. These Guidelines are designed to protect the overall character of the District, be flexible, and consider the expense of materials and economic impact on the property owner. The Guidelines expressly permit the design and improvement of property utilizing vinyl materials, particulazly in new construction. Guidelines at p. 28. Other types of siding materials have been used as well, such as aluminum siding (594 Ashland directly behind the subject properiy has aluminum siding and soffits). As for windows, while wood is the first choice under the Guidelines, it is not exclusive Colored vinyl and metal clad windows ha�e been used in many, many instances though out the Dishict, including the six New Construction units located at 608 to 618 Holly Avenue (vinyl) on the same block, and metal clad windows on the historically significant F. Scott Fitzgerald town home on Summit Avenue. Numerous District examples were cited in the application, and are now further cited in Exhibit The actions of the HPC were in disregard for the Guidelines and past practice, and were essentiaily reactionary to the public statements of John Mercer and a further neighbor whose concern was more for the time they spent painting, than on their own stated desire to have the exterior improved. This fact was noted by one of the HPC members. J. Esch Affidavit. The application contains numerous examples of New Construction wherein vinyl windows, vinyl siding and/or aluminum fascia were approved. Many ore are noted on Exhibit 2 In fact as noted a few examples of old homes using aluminum siding and vinyl windows are present on 604-606 Portland Avenue, and 525 Ashland uses vinyl windows and siding. �y - 38 oa-� r�d 2. The Decision By The Heritage Preservation Commission To Deny Is Not Consistent With Part of The Staff Report Prepared For The HPC By The Historic Preservation Specialist For The HPC and The Staff Report was Misleading. The staff report recommended the granting of the application insofaz as the vinyl siding. Wolverine siding is noted for its use in historical replacements. This is even more true where the siding being replaced is simulated siding in the first place. The staff report recommended against vinyl clad windows citing a lack of information. However, the application specified Anderson brand windows custom sized to match existing, including window reveal. Exhibit 1 page 3. See Exhibit 1 job estimates. It was further pointed out that brick molding would be added, an element missing from the front windows that were repaired due to damage and left to be restored with brick molding as part of the overall project. The current lack of use of brick molding creates the appeazance of "blocking down" and was intended as a temporary measure—hence no painting since it would be replaced with brick molding. This would result in a virtually identical appearance, a fact completely ignored by the HPC and staff. As for wrapping the fascia in aluminum, the staff issued a subject opinion without factual basis and in fact contrary to the current practice allowing such use. Exhibit 2. Sunilarly, aluminum soffits have been approved an installed in numerous homes and buildings within the District. The proposal was for restoration quality look vinyl soffits molded in traditional beadboard style. Eachibit 1. Modern style aluininum soffits are also present in the District. The Guidelines support the installarion of vinyl siding, vinyi windows, and aluminum fascia in new construction and have been in fact approved many times within the District. Exhibit 2. Given the obvious disregard by the HI'C for the Guidelines and numerous prior 4 AN - 39 oa• u�� approved projects of like nature, the application should be approved 3. The Decision By The Heritage Preservafion Commission To Deny Is Not Consistent With The Public Testimony. Public testimony was taken at the hearing. The individuals expressing disagreement with the granting of the application, neighbors John Mercer (604 Holly) and Art (6XX Holly) stated that the property was "not maintained". J. Esch Affidavit. However, Mr. Mercer himself contradicted this statement. In making these statements, Mr. Mercex aclmowledged that the selection of siding material was done by the original builder using cheap quality materials. This observation is correct and has been corroborated in settlements with some manufacturers and pending lawsuits with other manufacturers of Masonite type siding. Masonite type siding of that era is inherently defective in that resins leakage causes stauung and chalking which inhibits the proper adhesion of paint, which exacerbates the ability of the siding to withstand absorption of water, causing further swelling and deterioration. E�ibit 1. The siding failure fiirther hastened the rotting of the windows themselves as it allowed moisture behind the windows. In fact, when asked, Jolui Mercer aclrnowledged that he wanted the Property to be improved. J. Esch Affidavit. This is the very purpose behind the application in the first place. The only assertion, which is one of opinion and inconsistent with the Guidelines itself, is that he did not want vinyl siding since he had painted his home and had invested blood sweat and tears. The proposed investment by the undersigned likewise involves a lazge inveshnent of money and time. His basis for complaint, which the HPC apparently relied on, is misguided and inappropriate. The Guidelines and past applications have specifically permitted vinyl siding and vinyl clad windows within the District many many times in the immediate vicinity. Exhibit 2 �\� - `T � oa-�i�a 4. The Deniai By The HPC Was Arbitrary And Capricious In Light Of The Facts And Public Policy. The well published public policy of the City of St. Paul is to maintain and improve the housing stock. The Housing Action Plan 2001 approved by the City Councii (the "2001 Plan")specifically calls this policy out in Section 2.0 of the Plan. "Housing Action Plan 2001 2.0 Housing Plan Policies Emphasized in 2001 The Housing Plan outlines three distinct but highly inter-related--strategies. In each of the three strategies, certain policies or acrions are outlined. Below, as part of each strategy, is a list of the policies/actions that will be emphasized in 2001. The policies that will be emphasized in 2001 are briefly stated below each strategy, and are stated completely in the Housing Plan. 2.1 Strategy 1: Take Caze of What We Ha�e Continue and expand efforts to enhance the city's tradirional neighborhood design. Preserve historically and architecturally significant buildings and neighborhoods. Strategically focus efforts to stem deterioration and declining values. Improve management and maintenance of rental property. Priority will be given to projects that commit to the long-term affordability of housing units." The City of Saint Paul's 2002 draft Housing Production Plan ("Draft Plan") states in part: "As such, this plan provides important benefits to all of the people in our community. It is a solid workable plan and it will: • Significantly increase the supply of housing over the next four yeazs. . Increase our tas base. • Provide additional purchasing power for City businesses. . Allow us to maintain our population growth. • Maintain an adequate supply of housing at all income levels. . Revitalize Saint Paul's downtown and residential neighborhoods. • Keep our existing housing stock in good shape. 6 A�_�� oa-�� sa. • And maintain Saint Paul as an affozdable City.i The 2001 Plan and the Draft Plan provide public policy support for the granting of the applicarion. The unprovements sought by the undersigned are needed, and warranted by the undisputed showing of defective siding and windows and replacement materials consistent with the Guidelines. The neighborhood locally, and the City in general will benefit by improvement of the Property, a fact aclaiowledged by neighbor 7ohn Mercer himself in that he wants the Properiy improved. The improvements are consistent with the Guidelines and past approvals within the District by the HPC far each use of vinyl siding, vinyi clad windows and aluminum fascia as set forth in Exhibit 2. In denying the application, which appears driven solely by vocal opinion of two neighbors who disdain the condition of the Property exterior, understand it was designed and manufactured in a defective manner yet want the exterior repaired. Rather than base the application decision on stated Guidelines, the application itself, past granted applications of similar nature, and at least part of the HPC staff recommendation, the HPC voted to ignore this material and ignore the stated public policy of the City of Saint Paul. As a result, the HPC members acted in an arbitrary and capricious manner; it was an unreasonable action in disregard for the facts and rules applicable to the process and principles of the HPC itself. CONCLTJSION The HPC, is reviewing the application, failed to take proper consideration of the Guidelines that aliow the use of vinyi clad wood windows, vinyl siding and aluminuxn fascia. Numerous examples of New Consirucrion have been cited which do not differ in any material way. The application appears to have been reviewed in a cursory manner, and the HPC swayed by misguided public comments. This is an improper review and determination and the undersigned respectfully requests that the application be granted. 3 http://www.ci.stpaul.xnn.us/housing/02housingplan/ � �4 - '� Z- oa-�isa STATEMENT OF EXFIIBITS Appellant identifies the following documents as e�ibits for consideration by the City Council in this matter. The undersigned reserves the right to supplement the E�ibits at the hearing. 1 2 3 HPC Application/StaffReport Schedule of Properties using Vinyl Siding Windows and Aluxninum Fascia in the District Wolverine Restoration Products Brochure (Part of Application) 4. Anderson Windows Detail from Web Date: September 3, 2002. Thomas F. Carretta, Owner 1 Chazles Lake Road North Oaks, MN 55127 Telephone: 612.709-5306 8 ��( - �l 3 aa-� �5a E�ibit 1 Address Siding Tvpe Window Tvpe Fascia 608 to 618 Holly Ave Masonite Vinyl Clad Unlrnown (Same Block as Property) 583 Holly Ave Brick Metal Clad Brick 603 Snmmit Ave Stucco Vinyl Clad N/A 600 Block Ashland Ave Masonite Vinyl Clad Aluminum (Wilkins Town Homes) 594 Ashland Aluminum Unknown Aluminum Soffit Rear Neighbor) 525 Ashland Vinyl Wood Wood 552 to 566 Summit Ave Brick/Stucco Vinyl Clad Aluminum 604-606 Portland Ave Vinyl Vinyl Clad Unknown 589 Portland Ave Wood Vinyi or Metal Clad Wood 576 Portland Brick/Stucco Vinyl Clad Unknown 580 Portland Ave Vinyl Unknown Unknown 250 Selby Ave Brick Metal Clad Aluminum (Summit Place) 161 to 169 Nina Vinyl Vinyi Clad Aluminum 284 to 314 Selby Ave Vinyl Vinyl Clad Aluminum 162 to 170 Farrington Vinyl Vinyl Clad Aluminum 129 Virginia Wood Vinyl Clad Wood Hill Plaza Selby Ave Brick Metal Clad Unl�own 140 to 146 Mackubin Masonite Vinyl Ciad Unlmown 535A to 533 A Laurel Masonite Vinyl Clad Unknown 545 —549 Laurel Wood/Vinyl Vinyl Clad Aluminum The foliowing immediate adjacent properties have unpainted milled aluminum storm windows and are located on Holly Avenue. 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Carretta, owner of the property located at 597 Holly Avenue, St Paul. The meeting was held to diseuss the granting of a building permit to the owner so proposed improvements to the property could lie made. At the meeting, public statements were taken regarding the proposed improvements to the properry;,such statements consisted of the following, in relevant part: 1. John Mercer and Art _� neighbors of the above stated property spoke in opposirion to the granting of the buiiding pemut. 2. Ducing ]ris public statement, John Mercer told the committee the owner of the property was negligent in maintaining the property. 3. During his pubiic statement, John Mercer told the committee he wanted the owner of the property to maintain the property but to do so in the same manner that he and other neighbors had done, with "blood, sweat, and teazs". 4. During his public statement, John Mercer told the comcnittee he did not want the owner to be able to use vinyl siding as a replacement material. 5. One committee member reminded the committee and the public, one several occasions, that vinyl siding is an approved construction material for the neighborhood Dated:�^yI.1 •l 5, 4(/U7_ � �' ` °� Jandeen M. Esch STATE OF MINNESOTA) ) ss: COUNl'Y OF HENNEPIN ) On this, the Sth day of September 2002, the person laiown to me as 7andeen M. Esch being duly sworn, appeazed before me and certified by her signature that the above statements aze true and conect to the best of her recollection. Witness my hand and Notarial Seal this �� of Se ember, 2002. JlIDi7H E. ADAMS �'� t.a;£s.ry Public otary Public MinnesoM My CGnmilselon E�PI��n. - - �Jl�r''�/i �, l�fi,� Printed Name Iviy Comcnission Expires: � �' � �ty-y9 _ _.. - �� Am�ySpong-597holly.doc� � — __.�.. _ �_. .. _ __.. �.►� (��Page 1 August 22, 2002 Heritage Preservation Commission Chair City of Saint Paul Office of LTEP 350 Saint Peter Street — Suite 300 Saint Paul, MN 55102-1510 Re: 597 Holly Avenue - Building pemut to replace; windows, doors and replace Masonite siding with vinyl siding File # B02-325 Deaz HPC Chair; My husband and I aze the owners of 596 Ashland Avenue and have lived there for over 10 years. (Our property is behind 597 Holly.) As we are unable to attend this evenings meeting, please consider this letter as my personal statement. I request that you deny the application for vinyl siding for the following reasons; • The materials and details should relate to the materials and details of existing neazby buildings. There aze no other buildings with vinyl siding on this block. • Two houses have been moved on this block in the last 9 years. Both of these houses were required to maintain the harmony and continuity of the surrounding houses and the Historic Hill District. • Many guages have been built, on and around this block (and our continuing to be built) and they were all required to maintain the harmony of the neighborhood and were denied use of vinyl siding. I request that you deny the application of the existing `hew windows" that were put in last fall without HPC's approval (there are at least nine of them). I ask that you require the applicant to remove the new windows and replace the old windows, with windows of a suitable size and material. I also request that you require the applicant to include the gazage in his application to insure continuity on the property. In the recent years our block has seen significant improvements and rebirth. Please do not allow vinyl siding in our neighborhood. Thank you for your consideration, Jill and Randy Ross 596 Ashland Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55102 �S' S �