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CANARY - DEPARTMENT � GITY OF SAINT PAITL `
BLjJE -�'fAAYOR File NO.
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Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul
hereby ratifies and approves the action of the Saint Paul
Board of Appeals and Review pertaining to the following
listed property and as shown by the portion of the Minutes
of said Baard of Appeals and Review dated November 27, 1973,
and marked as Exhibit A, and attached hereto and ma.de a part
hereof by ref erence:
Date of Board
Minutes Case No. Pro ep rty Appellant
11/27/73 59-73-B 1640 Hillcrest Irving W. & Annette
(Garage) K. Levine
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the City Clerk is directed to file a
certified copy of this resolution in the office of the Register
of Deeds
COUNCILMEIV
Yeas ��ler Nays Requested by Department of:
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Konopatzki _„� In Favor
Levine /
Meredith v Against BY
�mc Roedler
Tedesco
Mme.President �K IiuJ1'�
JAN 2 3 1974 Form Approved by City Attorney
Adopted by Council: Date - . �
Certif' a ed by C i tary BY
By
Approve M or: Date � Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
By BY
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?�INUTES OF THE P�EE�'I'�1G
ST. PAUL BOARD OF APpFA.LS A?VD P.EVIEj41
Tuesday, �iovember 27 , 1973
Count� Boar� P,00m
356 City Hall and Court �-Iouse
_ 1 : 30 n.m_
P�E1�.4BERS PRESENT: D. Donal� ?Nozniak, Chairman
Raymond n. Grove
A4itchell i�1. Kamin
P�irs , Estyr Bradley Pealce
'�rs . ?�lorma Sommerdorf
Arthur r-�. Tieso �
James D. Voigt
t•4E1`•1BERS A3SEI�1T: �1one
AGENCIES PRESENT: � Division o.f_ �-Iousi*�g and Buil3in� Code Enforcement :
,. Ronald DeTomaso, ?�ousing Code� Ins,�ector
( ' Steve Roy, Housing Code Insnector
� Richard �lmey, Building Ins�ector
Dan Person, Builcl_inu Insnector
QTHERS PRESE'_`:T: Thomas Stassen, l�nnellant for *'ir. Stens�ard
Julius �+�ilens7;y, Anpellant
and tVilliam �.T. '_Vicholas , F.ealtor, Rliod.es Comnany
.?ose;�Ii 0"_`deill , Attorney for A,nnellant Levine
Ed��rard Lafrombois , �'�pnellant �
Steve DeCosta
Doris L. Getsua, Executive Secretarv, Anneals Board.
r•leeting of t?ie �t . Paul Roard of Anneals and Review was called to order
at 1 : 30 p.M. by Chairman D. Donald �doznialc.
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Case No. Pronerty A��aellant
59-73-B 1640 Hillcrest (Garage) Irving !^'. �T Annette ?<. I,evine
by Josenh 0'1Veill , attorney.
"' SUBJECT :
Renuest waiver of requirement under Building Coc�e 4J. 00 - 1 .C. with
regard to garage extension.
APPEARA�`ICE :
�1r. Joseph 0'Neill , attorney for an�ellant .
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PROCEEDINGS :
P-1r. 0'11ei11 stated that the annellant , t�1r. Tevine , was unable to anvear,
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' because of having been called out of t'�e city. M.r. . 0'?deill stated
� that this case involved the matter of a corner lot on �?illcrsst Ave.
anc� r��acalester St . He said tTiat tIlere �nras no sidewalk on �tacalester
St . Exfiibitin� a diaaram, Mr , 0'Tleill nointed out the location on
�iacalester and Hillcrest. He sho�,ved that as ?.�acalester ran sotzth, the
street �was 60 �eet wide with no sidewalks at �ahere the a��ellant re-
sicied on tae corner. As the street trent down to the next block to
Boland Ave . , '�?acalestex narrot,red do�vn to 30 f.eet . As r-lacalester Gt .
follo�red �o�vn t� the next block, tfie street narrot,red down to 10 feet
and then came to the location of the Highla�c� Park Elementary School .
�Ie stated lie was nointing out that fact because it did become im�or. tant .
�n describing t�e sit�aation, `1r. O�Neill stated that in Sentember, 1973,
the apnellant, �-1r. Levine , decided to change h.is gara�e from a one car
to a t�ao car garage . Because of P�-�r. Levine T s heart conciition, it was
necessary to build`: an-_eye type door, in order to have a two-car garage. _
Mr. Levine received a nermit £rom the citv of St . Paul and nroceecl_ed. to
start construction. Ne was almost 85% or 90o comvleted when someone from
the city came by and sai�i, "I think you might be over the �ronertv
line -- you had better get a survey. " �
P�4r. 0'Neill stated tnat ��r. Levine , therefore , `�ad a survey made , co�v
of �ahich r�ir. O�Neill tllen ex�ibited to the �oard, i,�?zich showed r�ir. �
Levine's barage to be extending over the lot line , r�Ir. . Levine had
contacted ��r. 0''Veill , �rTio in turn contacted the City A_ttorney' s �ffice .
The City Attorney` s Office had advisec� ?�1r. O�Neill , "��ell , what you had
f better do, considering t?�e situation with the street here ancl th� very
`- . little use or nossibility of ever extending or ��ridenin.� t?i�t street ,
you cou]_d recommend for a vacation. '� �
�1r. O�Neill stated that he did so and he exhibited to the Board �•�embers
a copy of_ tIle �etition, wliich he ha�1 �resented to the City Council to
show that all or the peo-�le who lived on the f.our corners had joined in
this petition, because thev did not see it as any dif£iculty.
r�4r. 0":`deill stated that he had tallced to the members of the Council
when the matter ca.me before the Council , and they had indicated that
while they were of a liI:elihood to mak_e a grant , the �etition for vaca-
tion , tliey thought, would set a very bad nxecedent. They, therefore ,
had asked the City Attorney' s Office to meet with �-�r. �'?�eill to work
out some 1�:ind of a per.mit for the lif_e of. tne garage.
P,�r. 0'Neill stated that they tlien did meet and taorked out the situation
and that the matter was still �ending before the City Council Public
titi�orlcs Committee . P�1r. 0'�Veill stated that at the time that he had made
�� application before the City Council , he had asked for a variance on the
Building Code. The City Council had indicated that the matter was �ro-
�erly a case f.or the Zoning. Board. r�r. 0'Neill then nre�ared a netition
or the Zoning Board, and had sent in the ap�lication and r?oney for the
filing fee . FIowever, the anplication ti�as rejected with an in�icatian
that t�e pro?�er place f.or this matter was before the St . Paul Board o�
An�eals and Review. �
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� "So , i�1r. Chairman and mer�bers of. the Roard , . what we are doing� today
is asking you f_or a variance f,rom t?�e Legisi ative Btzilding Cod.e of the
City of St. Paul , 4Q . Q0 - l , C. , �rhich nrovides under this Section tfiat
garages loca_ted on tfie corner lots s�ould be set back for a distance o�
at least eight �8� feet f.rom the si3e lot Iine. "
�1r. 0'rIeill then nresented so:�e nictures of the area, and stated` that
the Department o.f. Public Safety had also examined the matter ar_d indi-
cated t?zat t:�ere was r.o safety problem. ?�4r. OtNeill also state�J. that
he thought �•4r, Donovan in the EngineerTs Of.fice , had felt that it
would set a bad �recedent and their of.f_ice had made a recommendation to
the City Council t�at t�e original petition be deniAd. P�r. 0'�•1eil� ,
hoi�iever, tliought tFiat tFie Council was of the mood that they were going
to grant the petition if i��r. O�:�eill could work something out with the
City Attorney' s Office .
P�Tr. 0'Neill summarized his �resentation by referring again to the ex-
hibits for the Board' s exar�inatzon -- the certificates of surve��, the
petition wi.th the signatuxes of the neighbors , a man of. the area, and
pictures of_ t'ne garage and premises and the streets� involvAd, incluciin�
the nictures ta�en by the Executive Secretarv o .f_ the Board.
i�7r. 0'Neill said he £elt the chances of the widening of r�acalester St.
�,rere a minimum. ?-ir. 0'Neill state;i that �?r. Segal of the City Attor�.ey 's
Office �acl sent Izim a letter w?�ich he thouc�ht containe� most ?.ikel.y
what the Council intended to do on the nroblem of tfie garage being on
� � public pro�erty. The Ie'tter state� that the Council ' s: nerr�ir could
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provide permission and authority:" . . . are hereby granted to the o�•aners
of tlie subject nronertv, to install and maintain a �ara�e as located on
the pronerty on plans a�nrove�. b� tfie Dent. o� public t{rorks , that the
permission and authority� to maintain a garage within the nub�ic street .
right-of-ti�ray, . t�rould continue f..or the life of the nresent garage , and furtlie
for the condition upon tl�e City CoLincilts retaining t?ie ri�ht to revoke
t.ie permit at any time i.he nublic necessity would reauire� upon nrior
written notice, thereto, t?�e owners of the property , an onnortunity of
a }iearing. It is co:iter�nlated that the permit would not be rev��:eci un-
less the nublic necessity required the use of the street for widening
of T�iacalester St . In that event , the owner of the nronerty would be
required to remove the gara�-e at his own cost an� expense. " r?r. 0"�1ei11
said he guessed that t;-�at likelihood ' =- -- - ��rould be very very remote.
�4r. Dan Person, Cliief Buil_ding Insnector of the �uilding De�t. , stated
he wanted to clarify one statement : That is , that Building Ins�ector,
I��Ir. Amey was out there , anci had renorte�. that�`the garage �vas almost
" done:` ?.Tr. Person said that was not true , that tne garage slab ha.ct not
even, been noured : yet when ��r. Amey '�ad insner�ted the garaae nroperty.
^�r. Amey• told the owners that it was built/o�er t?�e nublic nronerty.
H�wever, �he owner continued to build there even after t�eir cl_e�artment
iiad told him that he could not do so.
:�1r. Person said tI�at he could verify his rertarlcs with Inspector Amey; :
and P��r. 0'Neill stated he would have to have his client nresent also --
� � that there was a disnute over that matter. T�r. 0'rJeill stated t'iar it
was on Sept. 23 , 1973 , that the nermit was obtained fr�m the P>uil.cling
Dept . , and it �aas in the first part of r�ovember that notice was received
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�� that the o�Jners might nossibly be over the nronerty line. ��r. 0'Neill
stated he did not lcnow i�a?Zen that certificate of survey i,ras da�ed, but
it was shortly thereafter -- on the 21st of_ ?�lovember , 1972 , that thev
ti�ent out and got the survey.
Chairma:n Ydozniak aslced Building Inspector , }'erson , if the city rec�uired
a plot plan of garages to be submittec? for nermit nur�oses . r.2r. �?erson
stated no , that the city did not have this rec{uirement . Chairman i+lozniak
commented that it might �e because they tiaere too expensive to obtain.
Building Inspector Perso�. Said tnat nrobably t?�is was one of the
problems tI�at they had. Peo71e coi�l� go to tFle Ruil�ing Dent. and ob-
tain a Building Permit , ho�aever, they did not have ar.y idea where their
lot lines were and they got a �ermit , and then t?�ey would nroceed tivith
their construction. Then all of a sudden they would tind out that
they �aere over the property line and it did create a r�roblem.
"�Ir. Person stated that in one family or two family c�wellings the basic
contractor was reqtiired to be licensed for doin� the work. Jn this
event , A1r. Levine , as a fiome-owner , si.gned t�e ?�ermit , �icked un the
permit himself, and insQdoina , ?�e assumed the resnonsibility of the
garage�being in the prop�r place . The licensed mason contractors in
these instances , iaere aware of the location on the pro�ertv ?�rhere the
garage itself should be. Hor�rever, r�4r. Levine , took this resnonsibility
himself when he tool: out his own buildin� nerr�it.
�_ '4r. 0'Neill stated that he was sure that such was true , and that was
- tlle rea�on that the Board of �npeals was set un for the pur�oses of
tal:ing care of such situations wnich do develop on a hardshi.n basis .
!�1r. 0'Neill said he tieas sure it ti>>as l���r. Levine' s responsibilzty and that
ti•ras why they were before th� Board of Anpeals , because �1r. Levine Urent
ahead and had it done. Perhans , if there had been a masanxy contractor
or someone else , that ilould .iave been done the other tivay , but unfortiinate-
ly, the citizens could not always knotv all the rules and re�ulations.
Hopefully, that was �rhy we have the Board of Appeals .
There Ueing no further discussion on the case , Chairman '+!ozni�.l. asked
for a motion on the matter. r�r. Kamin i�10VED that the variance be granted
from the req_uirement under the St. Paul Legislative Buil�.inn Goae ,
40 . 0� - l . C. 1�1rs . Sommerdorf secon�ed the motion. TT�?� T40TI0'V i��AS
Cr1RRIED.
TfIE VOTE :
Ayes 7 ; Nayes 0 ; llbstentions 0 .
At t:�is .noint , Chairman T'lozniak had to leave the Boarc� �.leeting, in order
to attend another meeting . He asl:ed T;Zr. Tieso to tal:e over the Chairman-
shiP for the remainin� time.
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Case rdo. Pronertv An�ellant �e
59 - 73-B 1640 Hillcrest Gara ,e Irvina ?'l. � the
C � ) �T �lnnette ?.. Levine ro-
by �Tosenh 0'Veill , attorney. tion
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Renuest tivaiver of requirement under Building Code 4'J . 00 - l .C. with �t
re�ard to garag� extension.
APPEA�RA?`ICE :
�� �Ir, Joseph 0'Neill , attarney for an�ellant .
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r-Ir. 0'�Jeill stated ttiat the anpellant , T4r. Tevine , was unabl� to anvear,
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��So, ��1r. Chairman and menbers of. the Roarc� , . �shat we ar. e doir.g� today
is asking you for a variance f,rom t?�e Le�is�ative �i;zilding Code o�' the
City of St. Paul , 4o . Q0 - 1 . C. , �!hicIi �rovi�es under this Section that
ga?-a6es loca_ted on tIie corner lo±s shoul_d be set back for a disrance o�
at least eight �8) feet f.rom the si3e lot line , "
�1r. 0"�Ieill then nresented some nictur�s o_f the area, and stated that
the Department of. Public Safetv had also examined the matter ar_d indi-
cated that there was r.o safety problem. ?��r. Otrleill also stated that
h� thought '�-�r . Donovan in tY�e Enc�ineerTs �ffice , had felt that it
cti�ould set a bad �recedent and their off_ice had made a recor��nendation to
the City Council t�at t?se original netition be deniAd. �`ir. 0'"leill ,
]ioi•rever, thought tFiat ti�e Council_ i�ras of the mood that t�ey lvere going
to orant tFie petition if i�1r. 0�?�eill could worIc something out with the
City Attorney' s Office .
P1r. 0'Neill summarized his �resentation by referring again to the ex-
hibits for the Board' s exar:lination - - the certificates of surve•T, the
petition with t'�e si¢natures of the nei�hbors , a man o� the area, anci
pictures of t'ne garage and premises and t3ie streets involved , includinR
the �ictures tal-en by the Ex�cutive �ecretary of the ?�oard.
i•1r. 0'Neill said he felt the chances of the widening of_ rlacalester St .
�vere a minimum. ?-1r. 0'rdeill stated t}iat ?�r . Segal of_ the City Attorney ' s
Office �acl sent .Tiim a letter j�;TZicIi he thou�ht contained most 7 ikel_y
� i�r�at the Council intendeci �� c?.o on the nroblem of the Lara�e bein� on
`� . pix�:lic pro�erty. The l�tter stated t,'iat the Council ' s�. *�err�it could
j�Y•ovide permiss_w_on and auth�rity:" . . . are hereby granted to the o�aners
of r._,ie �ubject nro�ertv, to install and maintain a earage as Iocated on
the pranerty on plans a�nroved b;r the �ent . o� P�_iblic 1!rorks , that the
r�ermi ssion and authority to �naintain a Qarage �•TizIlin the nub�ic street ,
ri�ht-of-�;ray, would continue for t?�e life o E the nrese�t garage , a�� furt:
for the condition upon tlle City Council ' s retaining the ri��it to revoke
t'ie per.mit at any tim.e �'ie nublic necessity L,�ould require, unon nrior
tiJritten notice, t�iereto , t?�e qwners of the �ronert�� , an onnortunity of
a hearing. It is conter:nlated that the permit iaoul� not be revnl:ed un-
l�ss the nublic necessity reQuired the use of t?�e street for �aideni�g
of ��tacalester St . In that event , the o�vner of the nronerty T+IOl.IICl be
rec{uired to remove the �ara�e at his own cost an�? exnense. " r?r . 0"�leill
said iie guessed that tzat iikelihood - - -- - �rould be very very remote.
i%Ir. Dan Person, Cliief Bui]_ding Insnector of the ?�uilding ne�t . , stated
he wanted to clarify one sta.ter�ent : That is , that B�iilding I�s�ector ,
- P,1r. Amey was out there , an� had renorted t�at � the garage �vas almost
"' c?one :' ;-ir. Person said that was not trt�e , that the garage slab ha.� not
ever� been noured yet when '?r. Amey ?�ad insner�ted the garaQe nronerty.
��r. Amey� told t?ie owners t'�at it was buil�/over the nublic nronerty.
H����rever , the owner continued t� build t?�ere even after t�eir cle�artment
;iad told him that he could not do so .
'�ir. Person said that he could verify his remarIcs t�ith Insnector Amey, :
and I.1r. �J'Neill St�tP.C� �12 would fiave to have his client nresent also --
� . that there was a dis�ute over that matter . D�Ir. 0'rdeill stated that it
was on Sept . 23 , 1973 , that t�e nermit i-1as obtained �rom the Building
De�t. , and it ;ras in the first part of r�ovem�er that notice was received
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that the oiJners might nossibly be over t?�e nronerty line . �ir, �'Neill
/ stated he did not lrnow ��r?ien that certificate of survey rras dated, but
f' it ��ras sIlortly th�reafter -- on the 21st of ?�lovember , 1972 , that they
tiaent out and got tIle surve;�.
� Chairman �`Y'ozniak aslced �3uilding Inspector _ Person , if the city req�iired
a nlot plan of garages to be submitted for �ermit nur�oses . "�Ir. nerson
stated no , that the city di�.l not have this rec{uirement . Chairman �,iozniak
com�ented that it might be because t}ley �aere too exnensive to obtain.
Build_ing Inspector Perso� said t'nat nrobably t?iis ��Tas one o� the
nroblems tI�at they had-. Pe�-�le co��ld. go to tTle Ruilding Dent . and oh-
tain a Buildin� Permit , hoTlever, they did not have ar.y idea cahere thPir
lot lines were and they got a �ermit , ancl then they would nroceed i�rith
their construction. Then all of a sudden they would rind out that
they t,rere over tlie property line and it did create a nrabler�.
*Zr. Person stated tFiat in one family or two family dwellings t�le basic
contractor was rec{tiired to be licensed for doin� the w�rlc. 7n this
event , AIr, Levine , as a home-owner , s i.gned the r�ermit , *�icked un the
permit himself, and insodoinQ , �e assumed the resnonsibility of the
garagesbeing in the pro��r �lace . The licenseci mason c�ntractors in
t?�ese instances , were aware of the location on the nro�ert� ?lhere the
garag� itself should be . Ti�u�ever , r�4r. Levine , took this res?�ansibility
him�elf when Iie tool: out liis Oi�rn buildin� �err�it.
� _ 'ir. G';�e�i?�1 stated that he laas st�re tliat such i,�ras true , �nd t'zat was
� tlie -reason that the Boa.rd of �lnpea_ls was set un for the pur-�oses o�
ta':�:�g care of such sit�aations i�r'nicai do develop on a harctshin basis .
?tr. � '?��eill said he 1Jas sur� it ��ras i��Ir. Levine ' s resnonsibility and that
��ra.s �.Jrly they z�rere before the Board of Anpeals , because �ir. Levine ��rent
a'��:;�ci and had it done. Perhan� , if there had been a masonry contractor
01� so;nEOne else , that lJOUld hav�� been donc� the other tvay , bur u?zf�rtiinate -
ly , t'.�� citizer�s could not ali,�ays knoiJ all tlle rules a~�d re;�ulations .
Flop::fully , t�at was ti,rhy we have the Board of Appeals .
Thcre being no further discussion on the case , Chairman '.�rozn�al_ asked
for a motion on the matter. ?�r . Kamin ��tOVED tha* the variance be granted
from the req_uirement under the St. P�ul Legislative Buildin� Co��e ,
40 . 0� - l . C. I�1rs . Sornmerdorf seconded the motion. TTi�' Tt�TIOV Z�111S
Cr��'_'.IED.
TFiF VOTF :
�iyes 7 ; Nayes 0 ; nbstentions 0 .
At this .noint , Chairma.n l'lozniak had to leave t�ie Roard .�leeting, in order
to attend another meeting . He as':ed �1r . '?'ieso to talce over the Chairman-
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January 25� �974
Mr. Robert T. �ibbona
Reg�ster of Deeds
Room 155, City Ha�l
St. Paul, Minnesota
D�ar Sir:
Transmittad herew�th is s certified copy of C.F. No. �62966,
ratif�r�.ng a�d approving the action of the T3oard of Appeals and
Revie�+ pertaining to praperty at I.6�0 Hillcreet� owned by
Irv�.ng and Aru�ette Levl.ne.
Yc3uara v�ery trulY�
City Clerk
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