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01-837��..: r.... ..�_ ��a:\� cN `t���o� RESOLUTION OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Presented Referred To aa Council File # p c_ g� rj Green Sheet # � ����� Committee Date 1 2 RESOLUTION SEEKING TO MAINTAIN TWO-WAY TRAFFIC AND PARKING ON BOTH SIDES AS PART OF THE KNAPP-HILLSIDE RSVP PROJECT 3 WHEREAS, neighbors on Scudder Street wish to maintain the current configuration of their neighborhood street, 4 and 5 WIIEREAS, neighbors have been unable to reach a desired resolution after many meerings with the staff of the 6 Public Works Department and the Fire Deparhnent, and 7 WHEREAS, neighbors would like to bring this matter before the City Council for its resolution of this matter; 8 therefore be it 9 RESOLVED, Scudder Street between Blake Avenue and Gordon Avenue will continue to have two-way traffic and 10 pazking will continue to be permitted on both sides of the street. Requested by Department of: � Form Approved by City Attomey F1�� l.�`�3 B y' hde�terJ by Council: Date �,}, . o�-� � GA � �.va.� A�e�tiex Certified by Council Secretary Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council By: �, � a- . � By: � Approved by Mayor: Date � 0�-8�� DATE INtT1AiFD GREEN SHEET No 110354 AGQJDA BY (DA"f� NUMBER FOR RWTING OROER TOTAL # OF SIGNATURE PAGES � �.,�„�. �� � �„� _ ❑ CIIYAiiORIEV ❑ CJtYCLEPN ❑ AN1YJ11L8EAYCF90Yl ❑ q1�11CJRt8ER'rt11CRC ❑ WYORI��MIiI ❑ (CLIP ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE) �� � �C'��%�� '_�%� PLANNING COMMISSION CIB COMMITTEE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION IFAPPROVED OF TRANSACTION S RSONALSERViCE CONTRACTS MUSTANSWER iHE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS: Has Nis persoNfi�m everworked untler a wMrect for fhis department� YES NO Hes this persoMrtn ever 6een a d[y employee? YES NO Does this persoNfirm possess a sltill not �rormallypossessetl bY �Y arrent city emploYeei YES NO Is �his personfirm a targeted vendor! YES NO �lain all ves answers on seoarate sheet and aMach to areen sheet COST/REVENUE 6UDGETED (CIRCLE ONE) YES NO SOURCE ACTNITY NUMBER INFOftMATION (IXPWN) DEPARTMENT OF FIItE qND SAFETY SERVICES CITY OF SAINT PAUL Norr`t Coleinan, Mayor August 15, 2001 Jay Benanav, Councilmember 310-D City Hall Saint Paul, MN 55102 Dear Councilmember Benanav, �mothy K Fuller, Fire Chief 100 East ELeventh Street Saiat Pau(, MN SSI07 61 Telephone: 65I -22¢7811 Facsimi[e: 65I -228-6255 This letter is to advise you of a decision I have made regazding on-street pazldng restrictions on Scudder Street. As you laiow, Public Works is in the process of maldng improvements to the street surface, curbing, and boulevazd. As is their practice, Public Works recognized a possible impact to the delivery of fire and emergency medical services based on street width and asked what we would require for safe and efficient operations. Our recommendation was to restrict pazking to one side of Scudder Street and we stated that in a letter to your office and informed Public Works officials the same. After issuing the recommendafion I received a call from a Scudder Street resident asldng to speak with me about the reshiction. On Thursday, August 2, 2001, I spoke with three residents by telephone on a conference call. They asked if I would reconsider my position and allow parking on both sides of the street. We had a very open discussion and I listened to their issues and ideas, but my position did not change. However, I did tell them I would speak with A1 Shetka, (Public Works Traffic and Engineering) about any alternatives that would allow for pazking on both sides of the street and still enable the fire deparnnent to perform safe and efficient emergency operations. I made two site visits to Scudder Street, the last with Mr. Shetka on Tuesday, August 14, 2001. Mr. Shetka discussed some options, including one suggested by Mr. Lambert Krinke — the creation of "firefighting zones" — none of them viable. The decision of the Department of Fire and Safety Services is to reshict pazking to one side of Scudder Street. I informed Mr. Shetka of my decision. Sincerely, � Fire Chief Tim Fuller cc: A1 Shetka, Public Works Assistant Chief Bataglia Deputy Chief, "A", "B", "C" shift .. . F��+ar'h G��r�f ���� `� � ���� � ot- 83�1 Scudder Street It Works! Don't Change It! These Saint Paul Sireets have Narrower Driving Lanes or the same as Scudder Street, with two-side parking: Street Driving Lane Width Wazd 1 Maiden Lane 2 feet Ward 2 Grand Hill 13 feet 9 inches Heather Drive-Dead End 14 feet Heather Place 15 feet Lawton 12 feet Kenwood Parkwa 12 feet i inch Linwood-East of Grotto 7 feet 9 inches Irvine-lower 5 feet 7 inches Irvine-upper 2 feet 4 inches Palmer Place 7 feet 6 inches Scheffer-between Orin & Victoria 12 feet 8 inches Snnunit Court- East-West 12 feet 7 inches Summit Court — North-South 12 feet Ward 3 Montrose 12 feet 4 inches (18 feet 4 inches in Winter) Ward 4 Brewster 14 feet Hythe 15 feet Scudder 15 feet Ward 6 DeSoto 13 feet 9 inches Petit 12 feet Wazd 7 Maury 13 feet "Driving lane width" is the full roadway width less the permitted parking, at 6 feet per parking lane. 9/26/O1 0 �-�3�I � cu er tre et t r � . o s. � on t an e � t. �` Lynnette Hansen 646-9650, Lambert Krinke 649-1730, Terri Peterson 647-9014 September 26, 2001 � Presentation to City Council Members Residents of Scudder Street between Gordon and Blake unanimously want parking retained on both sides. We want the support of the entire City Council to allow two-sided parking to continue. PROCESS We have been responsible citizens. We followed the City's process for deciding how a rebuilt Scudder Street would function. In March 2001 the City offered us: ■ One-way street, 27 feet wide, with parking on both sides, or, ■ Two-way street, 28 feet wide, with parking on one side We wanted it kept the way it was, but we unanimously selected: ■ One-way street, 27 feet wide, with parking on both sides • The City Public Works Department now has told us we "wouldn't like a one way," and the Fire Department intends to restrict parking to one side of the street. Many streets in St. Paul ha�e a narrower driving lane than Scudder with two-sided parking. The names of 20 of those streets are listed on the blue page in the presentation folders. If the Fire Department insists that it is critical to limit parking on Scudder, shouldn't parking be limited on all the streets in St. Paul that have a naN�ower driving lane than Scudder? CURRENT SITUATION Curbs were installed to a width of 26 feet (presumab1y75-85 • years ago.) Scudder Street has been repaved with a 27-foot curb- to-curb width. Much of the street is 6 inches wider than before. 1 September 26, 2001 • Parking on Scudder now uses approximately 60% of 2-side parking capaciry, according to Public Works parking surveys. Restricting parking to one side would mean actual parking would be more than 110% of one-side parking capacity. FIIZE DEPARTMENT The Fire Department wants to ban parking on one side of Scudder Street. The Fire Department has sent hook and ladder rigs several times onto Scudder and has never had a problem fighting a fire. Fire Department ambulances have had not access problems as several of us have been transported to hospitals in the last several years. The Fire Department will do whatever is necessary to put out a fire, or complete an emergency run. The Fire Department has told Scudder Street Neighbors they need: ■"... a minimum of 14 feet to deploy our ladder truck . outriggers..." (March 201etter from Chief Fuller to Councilmember Benanav) . •"We need a minimum of 15 feet 2 inches to set t�ie outriggers and maneuver around the truck." (meeting June 29 with Ted Vanderbeek) ■"... a minimum unobstructed access of 20 feet..." (September 11 letter from Ted Vanderbeek to City Council Members) ■ The Fire Deparhnent originally said a parking lane is 6 feet wide. Then, Public Works said 7 feet is needed for a parking lane. We measured cars actually parked on Scudder. They range from 5 feet 2 inches to 5 feet 6 inches wide. As Scudder Street Neighbors continued to oppose restricted parking, the Fire Department's needs seemed to grow. You received a copy of the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code from the � Fire Department. Exceptions to this Code are almost everywhere 2 September 26, 2001 i in the City of St. Paul. Even the City standard width residential street (32 feet) doesn't meet the Code, allowing the two 7-foot parking lanes Public Works says are necessary. If the Fire Department enforces the "20-foot" standard, every residential street in the Ciry of St. Paul must have parking banned on one side of the street. A roadway with "unobstructed access of 20 feet", plus the two 7-foot parking lanes Public Works says are necessary, tota134 feet, two feet wider than the City standard width. The Fire Department says they need to limit parking to one side so they can set up ladder truck outriggers. Outriggers are only needed to stabilize the ladder truck if aerial ladders are used. Fire Department line personnel have told us they often cannot use aerial ladders to fight fires on residential streets due to height of houses, their set-back from the street, utility wires, and boulevard trees. • Cars are parked randomly on both sides of Scudder, allowing 21- 27 feet of operating space for Fire. "Outrigger" access is also available from six driveways and a"T" intersection within one block. There is a full-width street behind the houses on one side of Scudder and a wide alley behind those on the other side. Fires can also be fought from Aity, Blake, and Gordon. A map of Scudder and the surrounding streets is in the folder. CQNSEQUENCES IF PARKING IS LIMITED TO ONE SIDE One sided parking would create a freeway-sized roadway on Scudder Street. We have handicapped, elderly and parents with pre-schoolers who would be forced to cross a 21-foot roadway of two-way traffic to get to their cars. My neighbor Marjorie Hess uses a walker to get to her car. Another neighbor, Elizabeth, works a shift that ends at midnight or ` later. There are several teenage or college age women who 3 September 26, 2001 u � frequently return home late, who can now park in front of their homes. These people would ha�e to park blocks away, increasing their risk of assault. Traffic speeds would increase, creating risk to pedestrians and reducing the calm we like in our village-like communiry. VJhen cars are parked solidly on one side, residents ha�e difficulty getting out of their driveways because cars are parked too close to the edge of the driveway aprons. Solidly parked cars on one side would decrease crossing visibility. CONCLUSION: The Fire Department is being arbitrary: ■ Scudder Street Neighbors chose unanimously to have a 27- foot-wide street, with parking permitted on both sides. Fire intends to restrict parking to one side. ■ There are at least 20 streets in St. Paul which have narrower driving lanes than Scudder. ■ The Fire Depaxtment's needs seem to continue to grow. The Fire Department is being unrealistic: ■ There has never been a problem taking care of an emergency on Scudder. � ■ If new curbs and sireets had not been installed on Scudder, two-side parking would have continued to be allowed. ■ Cars are randomly parked, and in many cases Fire has a full 27-foot width to fight a fire. By restricting parking to one side, the City would create daily safety hazards for residents on Scudder Street because of increased traffic speed and distant parking late at night. Thank you for your reasonable consideration and support on this issue. 0 DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS Thomas J. Eggum, Director C1TY OF SAINT PAUL Norne Coteman, Mayor February 26, 2001 Dear Saint Paui Property Owner: Larry Luerh, Consuuciion Engirtetr 25 W. Faurth Street 9U0 Ciry Xall Aenes Tdephorte: 651-266-6050 Saint Paul. MN SS102-I660 Facsimi/e: 651-292-6315 By now you should ali be aware of the Knapp-Hillside Residential Street Vitatity Program project scheduled for your neighborhood this summer. Qne of the issues that has been of particular concern to Public Works, and i know to the neighborhood also, is the street widths to be constructed. (Please note that this notice is intended to address issues that affect the area west of Raymond. If your property is east of Raymond and you've received this notice, please call me. There will be a separate notice, for a different public meeting, intended to address the concems of the residents east of Raymond. So if you got this notice in error, you won't get the proper notice uniess you call me.) The neighborhood task force that was working on ail sorts of issues relative to this project spent a lot of time talking amongst themselves, and with many others in the neighborhood, about the � widths. They then sent me a list of their recommendations, inciuding street widths. I now have a report from Greg Reese, the city's forester, with comments regarding how the planned street widths wiii affect boulevard trees. Witt� this information, I can now react to the task force recommendations on street widths. 1 met with the task force recently to discuss my response. For most of the streets in the area, 1 think we have identified a width that will satisfy the neighborhood and the engineering concerns. There are many factors to consider, including emergency access and the amount of on street parking, in addition to the boulevard trees. With a smaii number of the sireets, the decisions are a little more difficuit. On those streets, we are asking the adjacent property owners for their input. To do this, we are having a public meeting on Thursday, March 8, 2001. The format of the meeting will be a little different than previous meetings. We will talk about one street for the time segments shown below, and then we will move to the next segment. 1 will be strict about the time so that we finish everything we need to at the meeting. Everyone is welcome at ali the segments, but I will be most interested in hearing from the people who live on these street segments. After the specific segments, I wiii run down the planned street widths for the other streets, then we will open it up to general information or questions about the project. Lighting will not be discussed, except that at the end of the meeting people will be able to review a project map showing which blocks wili have o�d lights and which will have new lights. I expect that AI Shetka, Public Works' Traffic Engineer, and Greg Reese wili also be in attendance. The meeting wili be Thursday, March 8, in the mutti-purpose room at the Si. Anthony Park � Elementary School. The scheduie for the meeting will be as follows. Aiso listed are some optians to be discussed at the meeting. Responsive Services • Qualiry Focilities • Emptoyee Pride � n u 6:00 to 6:30 Commonwealth, lower section adjacent to the median park � One-way street (away from Cemo), narrow to 20', add approximately 5' to boulevards, maintain one side parking � One-way street (away from Como), narrow to 20', add approuimately 5' to median, maintain one side parking � Two-way street, widen to 28', remove approximately 3' from bouievards and/or median, maintain one side parking 6:3� to 7:00 Commonweaith, upper section adjacent to the median park � One-way streei (toward Como), 20' wide, maintain one side parking � Two-way street, move parking to bays (28' widej on the median side of sTreet, with 8' bumpouts around some trees to protect them 7:00 to 7:30 Scudder, between Biake and Como Between Gordon and Como, widen to 30' (May decide during co�struction to widen to 32' if won't damage trees. Wil1 work with forester in making the decision.) Between Blake and Gordon � One-way street, 27' wide, with parking on both sides � Two-way street, 28' wide, with parking on one side 7:30 to 7:45 Keston, between Commonwealth and Carter � One-way street, 27' wide, with parking on both sides � Two-way street, 28' wide with parking on one side 7:45 to 8:00 Gordon, between Scudder and Raymond � Two-way street, widen to 30' with parking on both sides. 8:00 to 9:00 Other street widths General issues if there's time Please join Public Works and your neighbors to discuss these issues at the meeting. If you have any questions that need io be answered i�eiore the meeting, please caft me at 65i- 266-6117. Sincerely, ��- ���' r Projecf Engineer .-:..� �: �' ��: w Ki.' :a � cc: Counciimember Benanav �' Scudder Street It Works! Don't Change It! , These Saint Paul Streets have Narrower Driving Lanes or the same as Scudder Street, with two-side parking: �J • Street Drivin Lane Width Ward 1 Maiden Lane 2 feet Wazd 2 Grand Hili 13 feet 9 inches Heather Drive-Dead End 14 feet Heather Place 15 feet Lawton 12 feet Kenwood Parkwa 12 feet 1 inch Linwood-East of Grotto 7 feet 9 inches Trvine-lower 5 feet 7 inches Irvine-upper 2 feet 4 inches • Palmer Place 7 feet 6 inches Scheffer-between Orin & Victoria 12 feet 8 inches Summit Court- East-West 12 feet 7 inches Sununit Court—North-South 12 feet Wazd 3 Montrose 12 feet 4 inches (18 feet 4 inches in Winter) Ward 4 Brewster 14 feet Hythe 15 feet Scudder 15 feet Ward 6 DeSoto 13 feet 9 inches Petit 12 feet Ward 7 Maury 13 feet "Driving lane width" is the full roadway width less the permitted parking, at 6 feet per parking lane. 9/26/01 • � �� \ � .` \ � � ��� \ '�''���i •=� : '�) . , h - ` x � � , � , ,,�,N � R : � . � 1 ` . �� w . r.:t�'��>>' � ��� ; %<<�� . �-��,��\ i :. �� �, � � ��� � � � r ""'.- ��� � ; .� . 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While that may seem odd, it takes local officials off the hook for having to make what could be contentious decisions. Unless otherwise posted, speed limifs in St. Paui are 30 mph. But the limit on some city streets fs 45 mph and even can reach 50 mph on some parts of Shepard Road. Bill Hagland of the St. Paul Public Worlcs Department said the department is inereasingly getting queshans and requests fcom neigh- borhoads looking to make Neir areas safer. As a result, the St. Paul CiTy Council last month asked the state Transportation Department to check on six stretches of road with the hope of reducing tLe speed limits. A1 Shetka of the Public Works Department said he expects to hear 6ack by early summer. If the state approves lower limits, the changes woWd 6e made as soon as signs can be posted. Shetka said the state �amines street widths, makes tra�c counts and does_speed checks to deter- mine appropriate limits for a spe- eific stretch of road. "They muld report back that no changes are needed, but we think for safety reasons these requests aze OK," Shetka said. Hagland said that because "traF fic calming" is a neighCorhood issue, residenLs should raise their concerns with t6eir Citize¢ Partic- ipation Council. "One person's request may not s3t well with another neighbor;' he said, so a neighborhood Aeeds to reach consensus before approach- ing Pu6lic Works with requests for elianges. The six areas undu study zre: ■ Sneliing Avenue from Taylor Source: Sv Paul Pu�ec Works Oepamnem Avenue {just south of the railroad overpass) to Hoyt Avenue. Tlte stretch of road has posted speed Iimits that vazy from 35 to 45 mph. The city wants a consistent speed of 35 mph. ■ Marshall Avenue from Victoria Street to the Mississippf Rivet. The eity wan[s to reduce the speed limit, wbich is now 35 mph. According to Pu61ic Works figures, there kiave 6een 225 accidents at the five Dusiest intersecfioat of this segment sinee 1995. • West Sevenih Street from Otto Avenue to Madison Street. $peed limits vary from 35 to 40 mph. The city would like [he speeds reduced to 30 to 35 mph because ttie high votume of [raffie creates a 6azazd for Wage attempting to tum. ■ East Seventh from Lafayette Road to Elchenwaitl Street (at the top of the Seventh Street hili). The speed limit on tLe stretch is 35 mph, but the city wauld like it reduced to 30 mph because of inereasing traffic in area neighborhoods and around Metropolitan State University. ■ Como Avenue between Daie SVeet and Gateway Ddve. The city D[��3� would like the speed limit of 35 mph reduced to 30 mph for pedes- trian safety and neig6borhood tiv- a6ility concems. ■ Arcade Street betwean Nevada and Larpenteur avenues (along tha west edge of Phalen Golf Course). The city would like the 40-mph Hmit reduced to 30 mph for safety reasons. Puplic Works figurRs show 12 injury accidents since 1995 on this short stretch of road, including a fatal crash last Novemher, when a van tha[ had stopped to turn left was struck from be6ind by a truck Hecause of the accident pote¢- tial of the azea, Shetka said that fL2 Clf}� WOUIa 2�50 11kE SO 1lISLdIl a turn lane down the center of Areade between Nevada and Lar- penteur. Tlils would provide five lanes, with the center lane for turns. His department has o0 money to do [hfs now, he said, but it may seek state funds because Areade is a trunlc highway. Narl 1. Narlson can Oe reachetl at kkatlson@ploneqrpress.cum o� (651) 2285260. 12outes for requested speed studies 1. Snelling Avenue from Taybr Avenue to Hoy[ Avenue. 2. Aroatle Street from Nevada to LarDenteur Avenue. 3. Como Avenue fmm Dale Street to Gateway Dnve. 4. Seventh Stree[ from Lafayene Road to Eichenwaltl Streei. 5. Marshall Avenue irom Victoria Street to the Missssippi River. 6. Sevenlh Street from Matlison Street to Otto Avenue.