01-639Council File # Q\� G 3q
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RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
Presented By
Referred To
Committee: Date
2 WHEREAS, Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, in HPC File No. 4078, made application
3 to the Heritage Preservation Commission (hereinafter the "Commission") for a building permit
4 for a"tree house" structure in the rear yard of their properiy which is located in the Summit
5 Avenue West Heritage Preservation District and is commonly known as 1376 Sununit Avenue,
6 legally described as noted in the referenced HPC file; and
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8 WHEREAS, on October 19, 2000, the Commission conducted a public hearing after
9 having provided notice to affected property owners. By its Resolution No. 4078 adopted October
10 26, 2000, the Commission moved to deny the building permit based upon the location of the
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structure for the following reasons:
1. The structure conforms to general guidelines which encourage architectural
innovation and quality design while maintaining the harmony and continuity of
the district.
2. The structure's form, materials, roofpitch and scare are differentiated fro the
main residence yet compatible.
3. The shucture's location does not take into consideration the scale of the spaces
between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space.
WHEREAS, the Commission then moved in Resolution No. 4078 to grant the building
permit "contingent upon moving the siructure so that its eastem wall is set back to a plane at least
as far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main residence."
WHEREAS, pursuant to Saint Paul Legislative Code § 73.06, Brian Engdahl and Raina
Eberly duly filed an appeal from the determination made by the Commission and requested a
hearing before the City Council far the purposes of considering the actions taken by said
Commission; and
WHEREAS, acting pursuant to Legfslative Code § 73.06 and upon notice to affected
parties, a public hearing was duly conducted by the City Council on May 23, 2001, where all
interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and
WHEREAS, the Council having heard the statements made, and having considered the
application, the report of staff, the record, minutes, and resolution of the Commission, does
hereby;
RESOLVE, to reverse the Commission's decision in this matter. The Council finds,
1 based upon all the files, information, and the testimony gathered at the public hearing, that the p � a
2 Commission erred in its fmdings contained in Commission Resolution No. 4078 in support of
3 granting the building permit subject to the condition that the shucture in question be moved
4 based upon the following:
6 1. While the tree house is visible from Summit Avenue, it is visible only briefly
7 depending on how fast one travels past the property. The fact that the tree house is
8 visible does not support a definitive finding that the tree house "does not take into
9 consideration the scale of the spaces between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to
10 open space" that requires that the tree house be moved. Other measures - short of moving
11 the tree house - can be taken to screen and otherwise soften the view of the tree house
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from Summit Avenue. Those measures include planting trees to screen the tree house
from view.
2. The Commission found that the architecture, materials and consriuction of the tree
house aze, in all other respects, compatible with the historic district.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the appeal of Brian Engdahl and Raina
Eberly be and is hereby granted; and be it
FINALLY RESOLVED, that the Council secretary shall mail a copy of Yhis resolution
to Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, the Zoning Administrator and to the Commission.
Requested by Department of:
By:
Form Approv d by City Attorney
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Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
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Adogtion Certified by Council cretary
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TOTAL;E OF SIGNATURE PAGES (CUP ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE)
CTION REQUESTED
Memorializing City Council action taken on May 23, 2001, granting the appeal o£ Brian Engdahl
and Raina Eberly from a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission regarding the con-
struction of a tree house at 1376 Summit Avenue.
RECAMMENDA ION Approve (A) w Reject (R) VERSONAISERVICE CANTRAGfS MUSTANSWER TNE iOLLOWING QUESTIONS:
1. Has this Pe�M�m everv.wketl under e coMract fa Mis dePa�meM7
PLANNINGCOMMISSION YES NO
CIBCOMMITTEE 2 HasttiispersmRrmererbeenacilyempbyee'7
qVIL SERVICE COMMISSION YES NO
3. Ooes Mis persoMrm P�� a sldli no[ nomiatlYGossessetl bY airy curte�R d[Y empioyee�
VES NO
4. Is tAie pe�soNfiim a tarpetedvendoR
YES NO
F�lain all Yes answe�s on seParate sheet anE attach W Hreen shec4
INITIATING PROBLEM ISSUE, OPPOR7UNITY (VJho, What, When, Where, Why) �
ADVANTAGESIFAPPROVED
DISAWANTAGES IF APPROVED
DISADVANTAGES IF NOT APPROVED
TOLLL AMOUNT OF TRANSACTION i COS7/FtEVENUE BUD6ETED (GRCLE ONq YES NO
FUNDMGSOURCE ACTNITYNUMBER
FlWWLW.INFORMATON (IXPLNI�
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norzn Colem¢rt, Mayor
Hand Deltvered
June 18, 2001
Nancy Anderson
Council Secretary
Room 310 City Hall
OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY
Claytorz M Robinson, Jn, Ciry Attorney O� � C' �
civitDivisioa
400 City�Ha[1 Telephone: 65] ?66-871Q
!S Wut Ke[Iogg Blvd. Facsimile: 6.i7 2985619
Saint Pau[, Minnesota »IO?
RE: Resolution memorializing the Council's decision to grant the appeal of Engdahl and
Eberly from a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission for the property at 1376
Summit Avenue. Conncil Action Date: May 23, 2001
Dear Nancy:
Attached please find a signed, original resolution memorializing the decision of the council in the
matter and on the date noted above. Please add this item to the CounciPs consent agenda at your
earliest convenience. If you have questions, do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
Y � �L/G�aY+Q�
eter W. Wamer
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OFF[CE OF LICbNSE, B3SPECTIONS AND
EN V IlZONMEN'CAL PYtOTECTION
Roger Curtis, Director
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N01ZCE OF POBIdC HEABIIiC:
CTfY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Colerrsan, Mayor
Apri123,2001
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Deaz Ms. Anderson:
LOWRYPR The Samt Paul City Coimdl wfll con- 090
Suite 300 duct a public hearing on Wednesday, May �099
350 St Pete 23, 2001, at 5:30 p.m., City Cound7 .
Saint Povl. Cl�ambecs; 3rd Floor GYty Hall. tn oonsider
fihe appeal of Brian Engdalil and Raina
Eberly of a Heritage Preservation
Commisstion (f�CJ decision approving a
building permit for conslruction of a tree
house [wnstructed wlthout a bwldin�+ per'
mit or T�C approval) with the condition
that the tree hwse be mwed so that its
eastern wall Is set tiack to a plane at least
as far.advanced the eastern lot llne as
the mafn residence at 1376 Summit
Avenue.
Dated: May 3, 2001 _
NANCYANDERSON �
- . Asslstant GYty Council Seeretary - ,
Qu1aY �
81:PAULIEGALlSDGBR
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I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday,
May 23, 2001 for the following heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s): Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
File Nuxnber: 4078
Purpose: Appeal of a Aeritage Preservation Commission decision approving a building
permit for construcfion of a tree house (constructed without a building pemut
or HPC approval) with the condifion that the tree house be moved so that its
eastem wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot
line as the main residence.
Location:
5taff
1376 Summit Avenue
No staffrecommendafion.
Commission : Approved with condition on a 6-1 vote. (Two motions were made: First was
to deny the p°rmit :or the `t.ee hoase' in its cur:er.� 1x»?ier., and secon�? ±o
approve the "building pernut confingent upon moving the structure so that its
eastem wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot
line as the main residence: ')
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Pat Harris. My understanding is that
this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your earliest convenience
and that you will publish norice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9078 if you l�ave any quesfions.
Sincerely L `
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Amy Spong
Historic Preservation Specialist
CC: Council Member Pat Harris
Renee Eberly, Brian Engdahl
SAIHS
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Coleman, Mayor
May 16, 2001
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paui, MN 55102
Deaz Ms. Anderson:
OFFICEOFLCENSE, INSPECTIONSAND
ENVIRONMENTi1L PROTECT/ON O � _` � °,
Roger Curtis, Disector
LOiPRYPROFESSIONALBUlLIDNG Telephone:611-166-9001
350 St Peter Street Facsimile: 612-266-9099
Suite 310
Saint Paul, Minnuota 55101-I510
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday, May 23
2001 for the foilowing heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s): Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
File Number: 4078
� Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission decision approving a building
pernut for construction of a tree house (constructed without a building pernut or
HPC approval) with the condition that the tree house be moved so that its eastem
wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastem lot line as the
main residence.
Locarion:
Staff :
1376 Sumnut Avenue
No staff recommendarion.
Commission : Approved with condirions on a 6-i vote. (Two motions were made: First was to
deny the pernut for the `tree house' in its current location, and second to approve
the "building permit contingent upon moving the structure so that its eastern wall
is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main
residence.")
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Pat Harris. My understanding is that this public
hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your eazliest convenience and that you will
publish norice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9078 if you have any quesrions.
Sincerely,
� Amy Spon��
Historic Preservarion 5pecialist
Attachments
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� LIST OF ATTAC�NTS:
Attachment A
Attachment B
Attachment C
Attaclunent D
Attachment E
Attachment F
Attachment G
Attachment H
Attachment I
� Attachment J
Photo copies of tree house
Copy of building permit dated September 28, 2000
Site plan and elevarions (provided by the applicant on 10l02(Ol)
Excerpt from October 5, 2000 HPC Minutes
Excerpt from October 19, 2000 HPC Minutes and notes transcribed from
meeting tapes
Conespondence from applicant read at October 19, 2000 HPC Meeting
Correspondence from HPC to applicant and HPC Resolution File #4078
Norice of appeal from applicant and statement on grounds of appeal
Board of Zoning Appeais Resolution #O1-180961 and excerpt from March
26, 2001 Board of Zoning Appeals meeting minutes
Letter from owner to 7olui Hardwick, LIEP, dated May 8, 2001, which
proposes to turn deck into covered porch
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Minutes
Saint Paui Heritage Preservation Commission
October 5, 2000
Commissioners in Attendance: Errigo, Nargens, Larson, Meyer, Murphy, Scott, Wilsey, Wolfgramm,
Younkin
CommissionersAbsent: Beflus, Benton, Foote, Mikos,
Staff Present: Lobejko, Riddering, Skradski
1. Cail to Order. 5:00 p.m. (Vice Chair Hargens).
2. Announcement Skradski stated committee reports would be tabled until the new heritage
preservation specialist begins on October 9, 2000.
3. Approvat of the Aqenda: Approved unanimously.
4. Oid Business
Skradski presented five projects in which action taken on them was not clear, in lieu of the
former HPC staff person's departure. Commissioners told Skradski to consult the
Commission in an informal manner after the meeting
5. New Business: Pubiic Heari�glDesign Review
A. 211 E. 4'-" Street: Skradski reported that sign Faces were installed without HPC
approval or proper permits and that existing signage was already noncompliantwith
district guidelines. Without the applicant in attendance, the HPC did not hear publlc
testimony nor take action.
B. 546 Hollv Avenue: Will Rossbach, Rossbach Construction, explained the proposal
which was to demolish existing side/rear porch and concrete steps and construct a
new covered porch with deck above. Motion to approve the project as proposed
(Scott) was seconded (Larson) and approved unanimously.
C. 732 Marqaret Street: Wayne Lundeen stated he wanted to remove existing driveway,
relocate the garage doors to the west side and install a stone paver driveway. HPC
members asked about door design, and the materials for both the garage and
driveway. Motion to approve the project as proposed (Younkin) was seconded
(Larson) and approved unanimously.
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D. 565 Marshail Avenue: Michaei Terries from Outdoor Renovations explained the type
of windows proposed to repface current, original windows. When asked by
commissioners if other types of windows were considered, Mr. Terries stated `no.'
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Motion to deny the project as proposed (Younkin) was seconded (Larson) and
approved unanimously.
E. 579 Ashland Avenue: After questions about fence height and design, the HPC
decided to move this onto HPC staff for review and possible approval.
691 Davton Avenue: Dave Schilier from the City of Saint Paul asked the HPC which
type of window is allowed for this type of structure (Queen Anne, construded in
1885). The HPC referred this to staff for review and possible approval.
G. 1815 Summit Avenue: Robert Lunning, architect for the owners, for a project to
renovate the front facade. Motion to approve the project (Murphy) was seconded
(Scott) and approved unanimously.
H. 1858 Summit'Avenue: Larson motioned approval of the projectwith two conditions: 'I}
brick set back by four feet from original building; 2) hvo or three double hung wood
windows, placed at will; Younkin seconded tbe motion. Motion approved
unanimously.
I. 382 Maple Street: The applicantwanted to lcno�.v which colors were approved,
according to Skradski; however, since the applicantwas not there, the HPC took no
adion.
J. 725-733 E. 7'-" Street: (Younkir was recused from discussion and decision.) Motion
to approve the project as proposed (Larson) was seconded (Meyer) and
approved unanimously.
K. 90 E 4'-" Street: Fran Golt presented revised plans for the Central Library renovation;
many of the p(ans were from previous HPC member inpuf. The HPC totd fhe
applicants iF the permit applications has the design presented tonight, tY�e HPC would
approve those plans.
� L. 1376 Summit Avenue: Skradski stated the applicant constructed a tree house withoe+t
_._ -_-_ a permit Brian Engdahl explained hQlalked to HPC last spring and was told_he did __
not need a permit. A resident at 1374 Summit Avenue stated opposition to the tree
house, since if significanfiy and negatively a(fered the view from Summit Avenue.
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forwarded to the next full HPC meeting on October 19, 2000.
6. Rdjournment
Vice Chair Hargens adjourned the meeting at 7:20 p.m.
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Minutes
Sainf Pau! Heritage Preservatlon Commiss6on
October 19 a000
Commissioners i� Attendance: Bellus, Foote, Hargens, Larson, Murphy, Wilsey, Wolfgramm
Commissioners Absent:
Staifi Present:
Benton, Errigo, Meyer, P✓�ikos, Scott, Younkin
�obejko, Riddering, Skradski, Spong
1. Ca!! to Order: 5:00 p.m. (Cfiair BelVus)
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2. Announcements: Belius introduced Amy Spong as LIEP's new heritage preservationspecialist.
3. Approval of the Agenda: Agenda approved
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—"—'� A. 1376 Summit Avenue: The owners/appiicants could not�ft„
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statement to the Commission, summarizi,n,g�points that fhe
project to canstruct a tree house inkhe�'�e��a�d� The ov✓r
Summit Avenue stated opposition to�`f�is Q��ee2;"based on
the visual gap from Summit,�ye�ue that th2tree�ioF�s�e;s,�
submitted a written
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;ighboring 1374
of the structure and
fiils. Ms. Foote
questioned why LBEP staff in;sfructed the applican#s°}Eh�'at;�ti�ey did not need a permit and
asked if documentation w�r� available'_to verify�{iis"i�`avhat occurred. Mr. Skradski
repeated the plan exar,n.In�r�s quest�oning process for permit applicants, claiming plan
examiners' would onk��erbally check with appiieants to determine it the project needed a
permit. Mr. Wofigratt�m stated �ig:Yhinks ihe;tree house added to the characier of the
district and would �ot'vote to den�.z�Othercommissioners agreed with Mr. Wolfgramm
regarding the.style;of the tree house�5iructure, but voiced a concern that it was readily
� uisible from$Su'�[i�t Avenue. Mr:;Ca�son staced the HPC should do two things: 1) vote on
'� the motion tn,de�xth� permii; 2) make a new motion with conditions. Motton to deny
. rpeoject as
I 6- 1(Woifgramm). Larson moved approval of the
of the tree house to the same plane as the house; the
). Mo4ion approved 6 ='1 (Beiius).
B:;;;- 565 NTa�sh` �aTvliehael Terries asked the Commission if it would reconsider its decision to
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deny tfie�r�o�ec#�z�?posed at its Oatober 5, 2000 meeting; no commissioner was willing tc
offer a motior��fo�¢consider. Mr. Terries proposed replacing the sash with aluminum or
wood, thea,;ezpiained the details. Hargens moved approval of replacement sashes,
giving discretion to the owner between aluminum and wood; Wilsey secanded.
Larson aslced about the condition of the casings; Ms. Spong suggested that the casings
�= t and triRia6e repaired; Mr. Terries told the Commission repairing would be very expensive.
� � � - Motaon approvec9 unanimously (7 - O).
�= -� 7��motion to approve wrapping the trim and sills (Larson) was seconded (Hargens)
° and approved unanimousfy (7 - 0). Mc Terries recommended the City give contractors
a fist of HPC districts and individual sites when renewing or applying for the city
contracting license.
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ST PAUL HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OCTOBER 19, 2000 •
NIINUTES
Present: Nfines. Foote, and Wilsey; Messrs. Bellus, Hazgens, Larson, Murphy, and Wolfgramm.
James Bellus, chaired the committee.
1376 SiJMMIT AVEI`TL1E, the owmer constructed a tree house without HPC (Heritage
Preservation Committee) approval.
Amy Spong stated that the owner constructed a tree house in the back yard wiYhout a building
permiY. Ms. Spong stated that they had denied the tree house at the previous HPC Hearing, but a
quorum was not present to make it official.
John Skradski provided photographs of the tree house and clarified that they that had built it
around a tree not attached to the tree as most tree houses.
Commissioner Bellus snggested that the Committee members read the letter sent by the property
orvner of 1376 Summit Avenue before proceeding with the hearing.
Kevin Leuthold, 1374 Summit Avenue, stated that he lives next door. Mr. Leuthold stated that
the tree house does not match either house and fills the gap between the two buildings.
Commissioner Foote, questioned whether the building was a reaP house or a child's play house. •
Commissioner Foote, questioned whether there was any documentation to prove that the owner
had tried to follow the proper procedure.
Mr. Skradski explained the Plan Examiners question process. He stated that the size of their
project and their location in the City are the fizst questions asked by the plan examiners, to
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F * d been in.o osition To the project at the previous
hearing. He thought that they had misrepresented the size of the project. The Commission
discussed the differences in pemut requirements for regular districts and Historic Districts.
Commissioner Wolfg�amm questioned what couId be more historic than a child's tree house. He
stated it adds to the city, adds to the character of a chitd's life and is well constructed and
designed. Mr. Wolfgramm stated thaY he is voting a�ainst the resolution. He stated that if they
denied the permit aT the zoning level it would be more appropriate, if the tree house violated the
zoning laws.
Commission Hargans questioned whether tl�eir reason for eitber granting or not granting
approval of the resolution was caused by lack of process or lack of historic compatibility.
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Commissioner Larson stated that he thought that it was a minor structure, and that the
commission's position had not required Yhat a minor structure match the house. However, he
noted that this case was the third case in four months, that was asking for approval after the fact.
Commissioner Larson stated that he wanted people to be notified in some way that perxnits aze
required in the historic district and that he wanted them to apply for the permits before they start
building projects.
Commissioner Wilsey stated that she agreed with Commissioner Larson. However, she would
not have a problem with the structure if it were behind the house and not visible from the street.
Commissioner Bellus stated that there were other reasons to deny or approve the proj ect other
than that they did not follow the process correctly.
Commissioner Wilsey stated that just because the structure was a kid's tree house, approving it
when they had denied other projects that could be seen from the street was not fair.
�ommissioner Hargens stated that the structure was on the cusp of what is considered a building.
The tree house is lazge enough and because they build it off the ground it has the appearance of a
. buildin�.
Commissioner Beilus stated that there were several options available to the Commission at this
point. He stated that the Commission could make a motion to deny the project and have a second
motion for approval subject to certain conditions. Commissioner Bellus stated such as moving it
further into the back yard and away from the lot line. He stated rather than waiting for the
Zoning Board to move it over two feet, the Commission could have them move it over ten feet so
iYasflushwith-thehouse. --__-___ ____ _
Commissioner Larson moved to deny the project, which passed 6-1(Wolfgramm).
Commissioner Lazson moved to approve the project subject to the condition that they move the
structure so the eastem wall is setback at least flush with the house. Commissioner Wilsey
seconded the motion.
Commissioner Hazgens stated he liked this move because it addresses the neighbor's privacy
concems and the tree house will no longer be seen from the front yard.
The motion passed 6-1 (Bellus).
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Deat Amy Spong:
Having zeccived notice of Th�usday night's meeting on Tuesday night, Lve are sorry but �i�e
cannut bc pres�nt. Below is a summary ofthe relevant points I discussed witn you today.
Rte bttih a garage that matchcs ihe house 18 yeats ago and 1i�e obtained HPC approval for an
addition to ouz house 7 years ago, so we are not unfamiliaz with HPC �.tidelines or the process.
6/I S('?) - biscussed with neighbozs (Robin Sydor, Kevin Leuthold, !3c Nancy Gan'ett) our
thoughts ofbitilding a tree house c4: the proposed pl�cement. They raised no
objections.
6/30 Called city for information on building requuemenis,ipermits. Brian �t�as told by a plazl
revieweX that a peznut was not needed as ]ong as fhe sknictiuc was under 120 sq. ft. &
the structure was in the back yard. He was advised to call the HPC liaison to see i�
review w�.s required.
7/6 or Called HPC & tall:ed to Aaran Rubenstein. Brian was told that it did not need to go
7(R through HPC review. We were advised to keep it under 120 sq.f t. & in the back yazd.
2nd wk. Met with neighbors to review plans, including footprint & placement o£ structure in
� of 7uly regard to fence and tree, Also 511owad ihezn color photos from a tTeehouse
construction book that iilustrafed fhe materials & colors in which �i�a planned to fuush
the exterior. They voSced no objections.
3rci �vk. Afrer 3 walls were erzcted, Nancy expressed concern that the sight line from the
tr2�house Li�indows would allo��� children to see into their bedroom, which has a
mirrored wall. \Ve went to tlie tree hoase so that slie could see �a�hat could l� seen & I
— -could understand ker concems. I assured her that the wiudows#acine-their property ---
would be covered in some manner.
7/25 - 8!6 On vacation
lG'k. of 8/28 - Tall:ed H2th Nancy about the idea of a tight-weave privacy pane] that thz iv}� could
grow up, which also wuuld provide privacy frotn the deck area, not just tha windo�vs.
She stated that she thought this was a good idea
9(U3 V�'e stopped at the liunbex yazd (�;�here we had seen the privacy panel) to buy it - it w�s
out of stock. �'Je checked many other lumber yards & they either didn't earry it or it
wa,a out of stock. l�Te had to wait until a new shipment eame In,
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Picked up the privacy panel.
A notice was recaived in the mail box that the building inspector had �2sited & needed
access to tree house.
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9126 Brian caIled th� buitding inspector (John Hegner). He stated'that an "inquiry" l�ad
been receiv�d & could see from the file that we had contACted ihe huilding uvpectiaai
departmeztt earliei. He ecune the same aftemoon. He said that if structuse
u�as imder 100 sq. ft. from "eave to eave," a permit & TIPC approval was not needed
since it �vas not a"pernutable^ structure. His measllrements showed that it was just
under 100 sq R.
9l27 - There was a notc left in the riailbox by Mz. Hegner that a building p�miit � required
& where we S�ould go to apply for one.
9/28 - Brinn went to City Hall to apply for a bu$ding permit, He was told that one was not
needed. He informed the staff that Mr. Hegner had directed him to get one. Tltey
took ihe appl9catiou & the check, & told him that they would noc cash the eheck until
the discrepancy was resolvzd. I�e was directed to John Skradski conceming F�PC
regul'ation. Sohn had just left for lunch. Brian left a massage for 7ohzi to call.
9/29 - Contact �F�th John Sl:rads'ki. l'��e were informed that we were on the agenda for the
101� HPC meeiing. He asked ihat we fax a draN�in� of bsek yard, supporting not more
than 3>% of the yard in structnres (in fact it is 16%), & t� bring Pictures.
9/30
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Notice ofHI'C meeting receiv�d. Backyard dimensions' ��ere faxed to Jolm Skradski.
Another building inspector c�*ne (John ?'?), to tal:a pictures before tlzz I�C meetuig,
hecause 7ohn Hegner had not had time to do so. He also took rough measurements.
I informed him that John Aeo er alrzady had taken fia:rly precise mzasuremevts from
tbe eave lines & said that the shucture was 95 sq. ft. & did not need a permit. Jvhn ??
did not pursue the matter further, saying t6at he u�outd go along with, Hegner's caII on
this. He also cammented #hat he atready had taken pictures fram the aIley & tke tre�
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7} The structure does not match their honse. -
2) It "fills the spaoe between the houses."
Onr response (not exgressed at the meeting):
1) The struCture fits u�Yh the a*chitecture of g� house, gara�e, & the home and
garage to the ti�esc.
2} The structure is set welt back into our back }'ard, is barely visible from the sidewa1lc
on tltz souih side of Sum.`nit Ave. and not visible a� from the sidewaLl' on the
north side of Sununit Ave.
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26 October 2000
Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
1376 Summit Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105-2218
Dear Mr. Engdahl and Mrs. Eberly:
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OFFiCE OF LSCENSE, INSPECTiOVS A?3D
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Suite 300 Fatsimile: 651-266-9099
3J0 St. Peler Streef
SainlPa:il, Mrnneso[a Si102-IS/0
As you know, the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) considered at its October 19, 2000
meeting your application for the `tree house' structure built on your property at 1376 Summit
Avenue. The commission voted to deny your application and then voted again to approve your
app]ication with the condition that the structure be moved behind the main residence. I have enclosed
a copy ofthe commission's resolution stating its findings and decision.
� You have the right to appeal the Commission's decision to the Saint Paul Ciry Council underChapter
73 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code. Such an appeal must be filed within 14 days of receipt of this
]etter. Chapter 73 requires that the following paragraph be included in a1l Ietters indicating denial of a
permit:
(h) Appeal to ciry council. The permit applicant or any party ag�rieved by the decision
of the heritage pzeservation commission shall, within fourteen (14) days of the date of
-- tiie heritage preservation"commission's order an8 decision; have a right to appeal such -
order and decision to the city council. The appeal shalt be deemed perfected upon
receipt by the division of planning of hvo (2) copies of a notice of appeal and statement
setting forth the grounds for the appeal. The division of planning shall transmit one
copy of the notice of appeal and statement to the city council and one copy to the
hexitage preservation commission. The commission, in any written order denying a
permit application, shall advise the applicant of the right to appeal to tbe city council
and include this paragraph in all such orders.
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I spoke with our zoning staff who indicated this structure, in its current location wiThin three feet
of the side properiy line, requires a zoning variance. The HPC based its findings on the historic
district guidelines and not zoning regulations. If you plan to appeal the Commission's decision to
the City Council, the Council would want to know the zoning issue has been resolved. Therefore,
the appeal of tl�e HPC's decision would be delayed until the Board of Zoning Appeals makes their
decision on whether or not to grant the sideyard setback variance. The appeal to City Council still
needs to be filed within 14 days of receipt of this ]etter even thou�h the pub]ic hea*ing would be
delayed until the zoning issue is resolved. Enclosed you tivi11 find a Board of Zonin� Appeals
Application and information about the zoning process.
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Please feel free to call me at 651.266.9078 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Amy Spong
Iiistoric Preservation Specialist
Enclosure
cc: John Hardwick, LIEP zoning staff
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HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION 12ESOLIJTION
FILE NUMBER 4078
DATE 26 October 2000
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) is authorized by Chapter 73 of the
Saint Pau] Legislative Code to review permit applications for exterior alterations, new construction or
demolifion on or within designated Heritage Preservation Sites or Heritage Preservation Disfricts; and
«'$EI2EAS, Brian Engdahl and Raina E6erly constructed a`tree house' sYructure on their property at
1376 Summit Avenue, located �vithin the Summit Avenue ��est Heritage Preservation District; and
W$EREAS, the owners, Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly applied for the building permit and HPC
approval after the structure �vas built; and
WHET2EAS, the exisTing structure on the site is the Rush $. �Vheeler House, a rivo and one half story
residence desig�ed by Clarence H. Johnston, Sr. and constructed in 1909; it has stucco walls and a
asphalt-shingled hipped roof; and
WHEREAS, the new structure is located in the rear yard hvo feet from the property fence.on the east;
the one story L-shaped structure is raised approximately seven feet off the ground.on wood posts; the
walls are sided with cedar shin�les ar�d The gabled roof has asphalt-shingles; and
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WHEREAS, the following is the citation in the City's Legislative Code concemin� HPC review of �
building permits for new construction:
Chapter 73, Heri[age Preservation Commission; Section 73.06, Review of permits;
Paragraph (i),Factors to be considered:
Before approving any permit application required under paza�raph (d) of this section to
be approved by the heritage preservation commission, the commission shall make
findings based on Yhe piogiatri For the preservation and arcfiifebturZ control for the —
herita�e preservation site in regard to the following:
{3) In the case of a proposed new building, that such building will not in itself, or
by reason of its location on the site, materially impair the architectural or historic
value of buildings on adjacent sites or in the immediate viciniry within the
historic preservation site.
WHEREAS, relevant portions of the Summit Avenue West District Heritage Preservation District
design review guidelines for neiv construction that per[ain to the new buildin� include the following:
Sea 7437. Netv construction. (a) General Principles: The basic principle for ne�i� construction in the
Summit Avenue West District is Yo maintain the scale and quality of design ofthe disfrict. The Summit
Avenue West District is architecturally diverse �vithin an overall pattern of harmony and continuity.
These guidelines for new construction focus on general rather than specifc design elements in order to
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File Number 4078
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encourage architectural innovation and quality design while maintaining the hannony and continuity of
the district New construction should be compatible with the size, scale, massing, height, rh}�thm,
setback, color, material, buiidin� elements, site design, and character of surroundin� structures and fhe
area.
(b) Massing and Scale: New construction should conform to the massing, volume, height, facade
proportions and scale of ex'ssting surrounding structures. The scale of the spaces betv✓een buildings and
the rhytlim of buildings to open space should also be carefully considered.
(c) Mnterials and Details: (1) Variety in the use of a�chitectural materials and details adds to the
intimacy and visua] delight of the district. But there is also an overall thread of continuity provided by
the range of materials commonly used along Summit and by the way these materials are used. This
thread of continuity is threatened by the introduction of new industria] materials and the aggressive
exposure of earlier materials such as concrete block, metal fcaming and glass. The materials and details
of new construction shou(d re]ate to the materials and details of existing nearby buildings.
(d) Building Elements: Individuai elements of a building should be integrated into its composition for a
balanced and complete design. These elements of new construction should compliment existing adjacent
structures as well.
• (I) Roofs. There is a great variety of rooi treatments along Summit, but gab]e and hipped roofs are most
common. The skyline or profile of new construction should re]ate to the predominant roof shape of
exisfing nearby buildings.
The recommended pitch for gable roofs is 9:12 (rise-to-run ratio) and in general the minimum
appropriate pitch is 8:12. Highly visible secondary structure roofs should match the roof pitch of the
main structure. A 6:12 pitch may be acceptable in some cases for secondary structures which are not
visible from the street.
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission, based upon the evidence presented at its
October 19, 2000 public hearing on said permit application, made the fo]]owing findings of fact
concemina the construction of the `tree house' structure:
1. The structure conforms to general guSdelines which encourage architectural innovation and
quality design while maintainin� the harmony and continuity of the d"astrict.
2. The structure's form, materials, roof pitch and sca]e are differentiated from the main residence
yet compatible.
3. The stnicture's location does not take into consideration the scale of the spaces between
buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that based on the above findings, the Heritage Preservation
Commission denies approval of the building permit for the `iree house' in its current location; and
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26 October 2000
BE TT F'Ul2THER RESOLVED, that based on the above findings, the Heritage Preservation
Commission grants approval of the building permit contingent upon moving the structure so that its
eastern �yall is set back to a pIane at least as far advanced from the eastem Iot line as the main residence.
MOVED BY Larson
SECOri'DED BY Wilsey
TN FAVOR 6
AGAINST 1
ABSTAIN 0
Dacisions of the Herifage Preservation Commission are final, subject to appeal to the City Council
within 14 days bp anyone affected by the decision. This resolution does not obviate the need for
meeting applicable building and zoning code requirements, and does not constitute approval for
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7 November 2000
Amy Spong
Lowry Professional Building
Suite 300
350 St. Peter Street
St. Paul, MN 55102-1510
Deaz Ms. Spong:
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This is to inform you that we do plan to appeal the heritage preservation commission's decision
concerning the tree house located at 1376 Summit Avenue. We also are working on resolving the
zoning issue, as instructed in your letter that we received on 30 October 2000. Enclosed are a
copy of a notice of appeal and statement of the grounds for the appeal. A second copy is being
sent to Ms. Nancy Anderson, as you instructed, along with a copy ofthe minutes ofthe heritage
preservation commission meeting.
Please call us at 651-690-3724 if we have omitted any necessary information or if you have
questions.
Sincerely,
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Brian En�ahl
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I�TOtice of Appeal and Statement of Crrounds for the Appeal - Structure at 1376 Summit Ave.
� We are appealing the heritage preservation committee's (HPC) decision concerning the "tree
house" located in the backyazd of our home at 1376 Suirimit (the building inspectors infonmed us
that they consider 3t to be a structure built around a tree). We proceeded with this project in
June/July 2000 entirely in good faith and we followed the instructions we were given by City of
St. Paul LIEP offcials.
We contacted LIEP and were told that we did not need a building pernut but were advised to be
sure the neighbors did not objeCt, and to contact the HPC liaison (Aaron Rubenstein at that time)
conceming the need for their review. Mr. Rubenstein told us that we did not need HPC review as
long as it was in the back yard (According to Amy Spong, she spoke with Mr. Rubenstein and
he does not recall what he told us, one way or the other). We discussed the project with the
neighbors at 1374 Suinmit on at least two occasions, showing them drawings of the structure, the
exact proposed placement, and colored photographs of how we planned to finish the exterior,
and they voiced no objections.
In September, when the project was nearly comp]ete, the neighbors at 1374 Siimmit, who
previously had not raised ob}ections, filed a complaint with the HI'C. Tkus became clear to us
only when they were the only neighborhood people who appeared at the HPC meeting to voice
objections. Mr. Hegner, a building inspector came, took measurements, and told us that we did
not need a building permit, but we would need a signed maintenance easement agreement. The
next day, we were le$ a note that we would need to apply for a building permit. When Brian
went to file the application, LTEP staff told him that he did not need a building permit and only
� took the application after he told them that he had been directed to apply for one. He also was
directed to someone in plans review who told him that we would need an easement agreement and
provided hun with a sample copy.
After the FIPC's meeting of 19 Octobez 2000, we then were instructed to apply for a zoning
variance. After consultation with John Hardwick, LIEP zoning stafF, he informed us that either an
easement agzeement or a zoning variance would be acceptable and we are in the process of
pursuing this. At this point we aze not certain that the structure in question is out of compliance
-- - withthe 3-foot setback requirement: The residents at 1374 �vho aze filed the HI'C-- —
complaint, removed the last lmown monument from a site survey we had done in the about 1983,
prior to having our garage built. Initial drawings submitted to HI'C and LIEP were based on our
recollection that our lot is 40 ft. wide. In the process of collecting infornaation to complete the
zoning variance application, we found that our lot may in fact be 41 ft. wide, based on the width
on which we aze assessed for tases foz sidewalk maintenance, etc. by the City of St. Pau1. 7ohn
Hardwick found nothing in our property's file that would definitively set our property boundaries.
Amy Spong found a gazage building permit application that cited a 40 $. wide lot, but no copy of
the property survey, based on an application subznitted by the property owners. We plan to
pursue the issue of an in detemiinaxrt property line by requesting that the owners of 1374 Si.�tumit
restore the survey monument mazker that they removed.
We further feel that the HPC's decision to grant approval contingent upon moving the structure
is unfeasible, given that the tree house is built around a tree and partially is anchored to two trees.
We fiuther find the HPC's comment that "the structure's location does not take into consideration
the scale of the spaces between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space" to be vague
� and open to subjective judgement. The structure is visible, in any part, for a distance of about 30
ft. from the front sidewalk, and primarily visible (i.e., the main structure - not just a glimpse of
eaue or deck) from only 10-I S ft. If the issue is one of visibility from the street, we believe that
means other than moving the structure could be taken to block the view.
In reviewing the HPC's charter, we notice that it is an advisory body, with authority to review
and approve/deny applications for buitding pernuts. Given that we were told by LIEP, on three
occasions, that this structure did not need a building pernut, a decision tt�at later was "reversed"
by the HPC, we aze left wondering if the applicaYion for a building permit was required solely to
provide the HPC with authority to review this project. If this is the case, we should have beer_
informed when we made the initiat inquiry.
Throughout this process we have been told three times that we did not need a building pemrit
and then had HPC instruct us otherwise, were toid we did not need HPC review (and later were
toid othercvise in response to a neighbor complaint), were told twice by LIEP stafF that we
needed an easement agreement and later told by HPC that we need a zoning variance, and had
one seY of neighbors reverse themselves on an agreement Yhat they had an opportunity to review
on at least two occasions. We have dealt with three different persons in the position of HPC
liaison. At this point, it appears tt�at we may need to pay $180 for an application for a zoning
vaziance for a structure for wluch we uutially were told we didn't even need a pernut and which
had the approval ofthe most affected neighbors (however, Mr. Hardwick assured me that we
would not be charged the additionat penalty of $225 for filing a zoning variance application for
building a structure wzThout a bnilding permit). We feel the City has some responsibility in the
current situation, given the number of times that we have been given either the wrong information
or the city officials reversed themselves on information that we had been given. Unfortunately,
when a citizen calls a city official for information or guidelines, apparently there is no record kept
by that official of what the citizen was advised ar told. When Mr. Hazdwick was asked about his
opinion about how a the issue of a child's tree house had escalated into such a"nightmaze," he
responded (paraphrasing), "this is not a situation that occurs often (a tree house), the buiiding
code is vague in this regard, and thus it is open to various interpretations".
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In ciosing, we would like to ask that the City Council back its city officials in their initial
interpretations of the building code and HPC guidelines. We also would like to put on record that
- — - all ofth�people with whomwe �ave deaitfromthe Lf�P have beenTesponsive to oisquestions —
and have treated us in a respectfiil, decent inaimer, in spite of providing conflicting informazion,
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have done the best they cou18 in this di�cult "grey" area.
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS RESOLUTION
ZONING FILE NiTMBER: Ol - 180961
DATE: March 26, 2001
WHEREAS, Brian Engdahi & Raina Eberly has applied for a variance from the strict application
of the provisions of Section 62.1Q6 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code pertainin� to the
construction of a tree house/play house structure in the rear yard in the R-2 zoning district at
1376 Summit Avenue; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Board of Zoning Appeals conducted a public hearing on March 26,
2001 pursuant to said application in accordance with the requirements of Section 64.203 of the
Legislative Code; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paui Board of Zoning Appeals based upon evidence presented at the
public hearing, as substantially reflected in the minutes, made the following findings of fact:
1. The property in question cannot be put to a reasonable use under the strict provisionns of the
code.
. The applicants appear to have followed all of the proper procedures priar to constructing the
tree house/play house. They checked on the permit requirements as well as the HPC
requirements and were given misleading information. They also discussed the project with
their neighbors and were given no indication that there would be any objections to the
psoposed structure. It is clear that there has been some confusion in LIEP over issues such as
this in a heritage preservation dish In August of 2000, the HPC staffperson at that time
sent a memo to various staff in LIEP, the City Attorney and the Executive Committee of the
HPC, in an effort to clarify exactly what types of work require a building permit and HPC
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approval. That memorandum clearly stated that a sfied of any size required a permit an�
HPC approval. However, it also left open for discussion if play equipment should be
included in the list of things that should require a permit and HPC approval. In November of
2000, the City Building Official drafted a clear written policy stating that any exterior
construction or alteration within a designated herita�e preservation district, other than
painting ar landscaping, requires a permit and HPC review. Unfortunately, this clarification
came too late to help the applicants.
The applicants wanted to construct a small, 10 foot by 10 foot tree house/play house for their
daughter in the rear yard. Play equipment for children is a xeasonable use for residential
property, whether it is the kind of equipment you can purchase with slides, swings, platforms
etc., or a custom built tree house/play house such as the applicants have constructed. The
only tree in their yard that would serve this purpose is located close to the eastem property
line. The play house, after incorporating the tree within the structure, ended up 1.24 feet
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away from the east property line. For zoning purposes, an accessory stracYure, requires a 3-
foot side yard setback when located in a rear yard. The applicants could not incorporate the
tree within the structure and still meet the required 3 foot setback.
2. The plight of tlze Zand owner is due to circun�stances unique to this property, and these
circumstances were not created by the land owner.
The location of the tree in the applicanfs' yard as well as the lack of a clear, written policy
concerning these type of structures at the time the tree house/play house was built, are
circumstances that were not created by the app2icants.
3. The proposed variance is in keeping with the spirit and intent of the code, and is consistent
wizh the health, safety, comfort, morals and welfare of the inhabitants of the Ciry of St. Paul.
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The desire to provide a tree house/play house for their daughter is a reasonabPe request. The
structure is approximately 10 feet by 10 feet. There are two small decks attached to the
structure which increase the size to about 12 feet by 12 feet. This is not an excessive size
regardless if it is considered a play house, play equipment or an accessory structure.
Accessory sfixctures, and/or play equipment, when located in a rear yazd are permitted uses
in residential districts. The relatively minor 20 inch variance, required because of the
location of the tree on the lot, is in keeping with the spirit and inTent of the code. •
4. The proposed variance wi11 not impair an adequate szepply of Zight and air to adjacent
property, nor will it alter the essential character of the surrounding area or unreasonably
diminish establisherl property values within tlze sur area.
The neighborin� property owner at 1374 Summit Avenue has expressed concem that the tree
-- - house will aitow the applicants' daughter and her friends to look into the rear windows of
their house. However, moving the structure 20 inches further away from the property line
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Preservation Association (SARPA) has submitted a letter in opposition to this variance
request statin� that the size, scale, materials, windows, doors, color, setback, and character of
the playhouse are incompatible with sunounding structures in the neighborhood. This is in
direct conflict with the findings ofthe HPC which found that the structure's form, materials
and scale, while differenY from the main residence, are compatible. The letter fram SARPA
further states that the entire width of the play house can be seen from Summit Avenue
disrupting the rhythm of buildings to open space. This statement is in agreement with the
findings of the HPC. However, when staff visited the site, only a portion of the tree
house/play house was visible from the streef and then onIy when directly in front of the
house. It was not visible from the alley due to the 6-foot obscuring fence sunoundin� the
rear yard of the property. 5taff considered recommending that the existing obscuring fence
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be raised across from the tree house/play house or that a new barrier attached directly to the
eastem side of the play house be constructed, in order to address the concems of the
neighbor. However, since the style and design of the tree house/play house has been
approved by the HPC, staff is reluctant to recommend any changes to the structure. We have
received 4letters of support for this request from the property owners of 1367 Grand Avenue,
across the alley from this property, 1382 Summit, 1390 Summit and 1364 Summit, who all
felt that the tree house/play house was exceptionally well built and was an asset to the
neighborhood .
When visiting the site, staff noticed that the neighboring property at 1374 Summit Avenue
has a shed that encroaches onto the applicants' property. Staff could find no permit for this
shed ar any ir�dication that it was ever approved by the HPC. The relatively minor 20 inch
setback variance requesfed will not significantly affect the supply of light or air to the
adjacent property nar given the existence of other noncomplying accessory structures in the
immediate area, will it aiter the character or the neighborhood.
5. The variance, ifgranted, would not permit any use that is not permitted under the provisions
of the cocie for the property in the district where the affected land is located, nor would it
alter or change the zoning c�istrict classifzcation of the property.
. Accessory structures and/or play equipment aze permitted in all zoning districts. The
proposed variance, if granted, will not change or alter the zoning classification of the
property.
6. The request for variance is not based pYimariZy on a desire to zncrease the value or income
potential of the parcel of land.
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NOW, TAEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Saint Paul Board of Zoning Appeals that the
provisions of Section 62.106 are hereby waived to allow a side yard setback of 1.24 feet; subject
to the condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate building and electrical permits for the
project. In order to construct a tree house/play house structure in the rear yard on property
located at 1376 Summit Avenue; and legally described as Wann's Additon To St. Paul Ex Ave
Lot 9 Blk 1; in accordance with the application for variance and the site plan on file with the
Zoning Administrator.
MOVED BY : Galles
SECONDED BY: 1v�orton
IN FA�OR: �
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AGAINST: o
MAILED: March 27, 2001
TIME LIMIT: No order of the Board of Zoning Appeals permitting the erection or
alterafion of a building or off-street parking facility shall be valid for a
period longer than one year, unless a building permit for such erection or
alteration is obtained within such period and such erection or alteration is
proceeding pursuant to the terms of such permit. The Board of Zoning
Appeals or the City Council may grant an extension nof fo exceed one year.
In granting such extension, the Board of Zoning Appeals may decide to hold
a public hearing.
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APPEAL: Decisions of the Board of Zoning Appeats are finai subject to appeal to the
City Council within 15 days by anyone affected by the decision. Building
permits shall not be issued after an appeal has been filed. If perauts have
been issued before an appeal has been filed, fhen the perraits are suspended
and construction sha11 cease until tLe City Council has made a final
determination of the appeal. .
CERTIFICATI01��: I, the undersigned Secretarq to the Board of Zoning Appeats for the City of
Saint Paul, DZinnesota, do hereby certify that I have compared the foregoing
copy with the orib nal record in my office; and find the same to be a true and
correct copy of said original and of the whole thereof, as based on approved
minutes of the Sa4nt Paul Board of Zoning Appeais meetiag held on
March 26, 2001 and on record in the Office of License Inspection and
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EnvironrrienfalProtection, 3�0 Sf. Peter Stree�, SaintYaul, Minnesota.
SAINT PAUL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
Debbie Crippen
Secretary to the Board
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 330 CITY HALL
ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA, MARCH 26, 2001
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• PRESBNT: Mmes. Maddox, and Morton; Messis. Duckstad, Faricy, Gailes, Kleindl, and Wilson of
the Board of Zoning Appeals; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mr. Hardwick and
Ms. Crippen of the Office of License, Inspection, and Environmental Protection.
ABSENT: Vince Courtney *
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The meeting was chaired by 7oyce Maddox, Chair.
Brian Enadahl & Raina Eberlv (lt01-180961) 1376 Summit Avenue: A side yard setback
variance in order to construct a play house/tree house structure in the rear yard. A setback of 3 feet is
required and a setback of 1.24 feetis proposed, for a variance of 1.76 feet.
The applicant was present. There was opposition present at the hearing.
Mr. Hardwick showed slides of the site and reviewed the staff report with a recommendation for
appioval, subject to the condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate building and electrical
permits for the project.
One letter was received in opposition to the variance request from SARPA (Summit Avenue Residential
Preservation Association).
Five neighbors sent letters in support of the variance: 1367 Grand Avenue, 1382 Summit Avenue, 1390
Summit Avenue, 1364 Summit Avenue, and 1396 Summit Avenue.
No correspondence was received regarding the variance from District 14.
Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, 1376 Summit Avenue. Ms. fiberly submitted an additional letter in
support of the variance and addifional photos of the backyard and tree house/play house. She staeed
that they built the tree house in the spring not in the fall as stated in the staff report. Ms. Bberly stated
---that the tree house could be-seen for 15-feet while walking-onxhe-front sidewalk. _-
Mr. Engdahl stated that they had always tried to cooperate with the neighbors and the Heritage
Commission during their 20 years of living in their home on Summit.
Laura Kochevar, 1390 Summit Avenue, stated that she lives two doors down from the tree house and
has a full view of it from her yard. She stated that when walking, biking, or driving on Summit
Avenue the tree house is not noticeable. Ms. Kochevar stated that they love the tree house and would
like to see it stay.
Robin Cider, 1374 Summit Avenue - Unit l, stated that she opposed the granting of the setback
variance to construct the tree house. She stated that there was a tree directly behind the house that
could be used for the tree house that would not encroach on the property line. Ms. Cider stated that
plans for tree house/play house plans considered a six foot by six foot structure large and the applicant
chose to build a very large ten foot by ten foot tree house/play house. She stated that the plans shown
to the neighbors did not reflect the final structure. Ms. Cider stated that the tree house was much
larger in width and height. The play houseltree house became a two-srory structure on the fence line
with windows, glass doors and electriciry.
�':le #01-180961
Minutes March 26, 2001
Page Two
Ms. Cider submitted photos of children in the tree house hanging off the safety railing and falIing to the �
ground into her yard. She sTated concerns abouT the liabiliTy issues regarding the children falling into
her yard and injuring themselves. Ms. Cider stated that they have noise, light and privacy
encroachments not supported by the proposed variance. She stated that the tree house blocks one third
of the air flow and light from their property on the west and significantly altexs the essential character
of the surronnding area. Ms. Cider stated that the tree house/play house violaYes The HisToric --
Preservation District Guidelines and HPC (Heritage Preservation Commission) has denied a variance
for this properry. She stated that the SARPA also supports the recommendation of the HPC to deny.
Ms. Cider stated that the FTPC resolved to approve the structure provided they move it in line with the
principle structure on the property. She stated that the neighbors support the decision eo deny the
structure in the present location. Ms. Cider stated that the HPC judgement regarding the visual
encroachment of Summit Avenue would take precedence due to the unique nature of the historic street.
She stated that the structure reduces the historic value of the neighboring properties and has disturbed
the neighborhood.
Nancy Garrett, 1374 Summit Avenue, stated that they thought that the variance request failed to meet
four of the six requirements of the Ciry Zoning Code. She stated that there was no reason that the tree
house/play house had to be placed on the property line when there is another tree in the cenier of the
yard. Ms, Garrett sta[ed that there were no unique circumstances related to the properry. Ms. Garrett
stated that the side yard setback Zoning Code is in piace to protect neighbors from issues such as light
pollution, noise pollution, and liability from neighbors actions and these are all concerns heze. She
stated that twice this spring she had seen kids climbing over the safery railing and hanging over her
yard. Ms. Garrett stated that on March 10, 2001 two kids had jumped into their yard and had they
been injured, she could be held accountable. She stated that the structure acts as a 15-foot fence .
blocking several hours of direct sunIight from her yard. Ms. Garrett stated that there are many doors
and windows facing her home causing a lack of privacy. She stated that the glass doors are placed
directly over her front yard and the kids constantly bang the doors. Ms. Garrett stated that her
bedroom is about 15 feet from the entry to the tree house. She stated that the electricity is an issue
because when the lights are on in the tree house, it also lights up her bedroom even with the blinds
closed. Ms. Ganett stated that there is also a built-in bed, with kids sleeping in the tree house there is
--- the potential for her sleep-to bedtsturbed: She stated-that during the building process they disttxbed -- - --
her sleep because they were working on the tree house after 9:00 p.m. Ms. Garrett stated that moving
- � re rivac and pzovide screening
from the other buildings and landscaping. She requested that ttte Board uphold the law and deny the
variance request Ms. Garrett stated that they had tried ofren to commnnicate their concerns during the
building process, but thought that their concerns had not been listened to.
Ms. Eberly, stated that they did not have rnany ckoices for the tree house/play house. She stated that
the tree behind the house was over the back sidewalk, and the tree further back in the yard has a pond
below it so it was not a good choice. Ms. Eberly stated that the two trees, the tree house/play house is
attached to is a better choice giving the tree house more stabiliry than a single tree would. She stated
- that because fhe doots they had found were bigger than they,wan[ed it_became necessary to allow more
room for the door to open. Ms. Eberly stated that they made the tree house/play house smaller and the
deck larger because of the trouble with the door.
Heating no further testimony, Ms. Maddox ctosed the public portion of the meeting.
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Minutes March 26, 2001
Page Threa
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� Mr. Galles moved to approve the variance and resolution based on findings 1 through 6, subject to the
condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate buiiding and electrical permits for the project.
Ms. Morton seconded the motion, which passed on a roll call vote of 7-0.
Submitted by:
7ohn Hardwick
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Approved by:
Jpn Duckstad, Secretary
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Brian Engdahl & Raina Eberly
i 1376 Summit Ave.
St. Paul, MN 55105
May 8, 2001
7ohn Hardwick, LIEP
350 St. Peter St., Suite 300
St. Paul, MN 55102-1510
Dear Mr. Hazdwick:
As mentioned in the telephone message, we have reached a compromise with our neighbor,
Robin Sydor, on the tree house. The revision essentially would turn the deck on the east side into
a covered porch. The view from the north (Suinmit Ave.) would not change much. Enclosed are
sketches of the cunent view from the east and the proposed view. We have agreed to do this if it
is approved by the City.
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
The Saint Paul City Council will conduct a public hearing on Wednesday, May 23,
2001, at 5:30 p.m., City Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City Ha11, to consider the
appeal of Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly of a Heritage Preservation Commission
(HPC) decision approving a building permit for construction of a tree house
(constructed without a building permit or HPC approval) with the condition
that the tree house be moved so that its eastern wall is set back to a plane at least as
far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main residence at 1376 Summit
Avenue.
Dated: May 3, 2001
Nancy Anderson
Assistant City Council Secretary
Council File # Q\� G 3q
Green Sheet # � ��� � �p
RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
Presented By
Referred To
Committee: Date
2 WHEREAS, Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, in HPC File No. 4078, made application
3 to the Heritage Preservation Commission (hereinafter the "Commission") for a building permit
4 for a"tree house" structure in the rear yard of their properiy which is located in the Summit
5 Avenue West Heritage Preservation District and is commonly known as 1376 Sununit Avenue,
6 legally described as noted in the referenced HPC file; and
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8 WHEREAS, on October 19, 2000, the Commission conducted a public hearing after
9 having provided notice to affected property owners. By its Resolution No. 4078 adopted October
10 26, 2000, the Commission moved to deny the building permit based upon the location of the
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structure for the following reasons:
1. The structure conforms to general guidelines which encourage architectural
innovation and quality design while maintaining the harmony and continuity of
the district.
2. The structure's form, materials, roofpitch and scare are differentiated fro the
main residence yet compatible.
3. The shucture's location does not take into consideration the scale of the spaces
between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space.
WHEREAS, the Commission then moved in Resolution No. 4078 to grant the building
permit "contingent upon moving the siructure so that its eastem wall is set back to a plane at least
as far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main residence."
WHEREAS, pursuant to Saint Paul Legislative Code § 73.06, Brian Engdahl and Raina
Eberly duly filed an appeal from the determination made by the Commission and requested a
hearing before the City Council far the purposes of considering the actions taken by said
Commission; and
WHEREAS, acting pursuant to Legfslative Code § 73.06 and upon notice to affected
parties, a public hearing was duly conducted by the City Council on May 23, 2001, where all
interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and
WHEREAS, the Council having heard the statements made, and having considered the
application, the report of staff, the record, minutes, and resolution of the Commission, does
hereby;
RESOLVE, to reverse the Commission's decision in this matter. The Council finds,
1 based upon all the files, information, and the testimony gathered at the public hearing, that the p � a
2 Commission erred in its fmdings contained in Commission Resolution No. 4078 in support of
3 granting the building permit subject to the condition that the shucture in question be moved
4 based upon the following:
6 1. While the tree house is visible from Summit Avenue, it is visible only briefly
7 depending on how fast one travels past the property. The fact that the tree house is
8 visible does not support a definitive finding that the tree house "does not take into
9 consideration the scale of the spaces between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to
10 open space" that requires that the tree house be moved. Other measures - short of moving
11 the tree house - can be taken to screen and otherwise soften the view of the tree house
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from Summit Avenue. Those measures include planting trees to screen the tree house
from view.
2. The Commission found that the architecture, materials and consriuction of the tree
house aze, in all other respects, compatible with the historic district.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the appeal of Brian Engdahl and Raina
Eberly be and is hereby granted; and be it
FINALLY RESOLVED, that the Council secretary shall mail a copy of Yhis resolution
to Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, the Zoning Administrator and to the Commission.
Requested by Department of:
By:
Form Approv d by City Attorney
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Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
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Adogtion Certified by Council cretary
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TOTAL;E OF SIGNATURE PAGES (CUP ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE)
CTION REQUESTED
Memorializing City Council action taken on May 23, 2001, granting the appeal o£ Brian Engdahl
and Raina Eberly from a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission regarding the con-
struction of a tree house at 1376 Summit Avenue.
RECAMMENDA ION Approve (A) w Reject (R) VERSONAISERVICE CANTRAGfS MUSTANSWER TNE iOLLOWING QUESTIONS:
1. Has this Pe�M�m everv.wketl under e coMract fa Mis dePa�meM7
PLANNINGCOMMISSION YES NO
CIBCOMMITTEE 2 HasttiispersmRrmererbeenacilyempbyee'7
qVIL SERVICE COMMISSION YES NO
3. Ooes Mis persoMrm P�� a sldli no[ nomiatlYGossessetl bY airy curte�R d[Y empioyee�
VES NO
4. Is tAie pe�soNfiim a tarpetedvendoR
YES NO
F�lain all Yes answe�s on seParate sheet anE attach W Hreen shec4
INITIATING PROBLEM ISSUE, OPPOR7UNITY (VJho, What, When, Where, Why) �
ADVANTAGESIFAPPROVED
DISAWANTAGES IF APPROVED
DISADVANTAGES IF NOT APPROVED
TOLLL AMOUNT OF TRANSACTION i COS7/FtEVENUE BUD6ETED (GRCLE ONq YES NO
FUNDMGSOURCE ACTNITYNUMBER
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norzn Colem¢rt, Mayor
Hand Deltvered
June 18, 2001
Nancy Anderson
Council Secretary
Room 310 City Hall
OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY
Claytorz M Robinson, Jn, Ciry Attorney O� � C' �
civitDivisioa
400 City�Ha[1 Telephone: 65] ?66-871Q
!S Wut Ke[Iogg Blvd. Facsimile: 6.i7 2985619
Saint Pau[, Minnesota »IO?
RE: Resolution memorializing the Council's decision to grant the appeal of Engdahl and
Eberly from a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission for the property at 1376
Summit Avenue. Conncil Action Date: May 23, 2001
Dear Nancy:
Attached please find a signed, original resolution memorializing the decision of the council in the
matter and on the date noted above. Please add this item to the CounciPs consent agenda at your
earliest convenience. If you have questions, do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
Y � �L/G�aY+Q�
eter W. Wamer
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OFF[CE OF LICbNSE, B3SPECTIONS AND
EN V IlZONMEN'CAL PYtOTECTION
Roger Curtis, Director
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N01ZCE OF POBIdC HEABIIiC:
CTfY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Colerrsan, Mayor
Apri123,2001
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Deaz Ms. Anderson:
LOWRYPR The Samt Paul City Coimdl wfll con- 090
Suite 300 duct a public hearing on Wednesday, May �099
350 St Pete 23, 2001, at 5:30 p.m., City Cound7 .
Saint Povl. Cl�ambecs; 3rd Floor GYty Hall. tn oonsider
fihe appeal of Brian Engdalil and Raina
Eberly of a Heritage Preservation
Commisstion (f�CJ decision approving a
building permit for conslruction of a tree
house [wnstructed wlthout a bwldin�+ per'
mit or T�C approval) with the condition
that the tree hwse be mwed so that its
eastern wall Is set tiack to a plane at least
as far.advanced the eastern lot llne as
the mafn residence at 1376 Summit
Avenue.
Dated: May 3, 2001 _
NANCYANDERSON �
- . Asslstant GYty Council Seeretary - ,
Qu1aY �
81:PAULIEGALlSDGBR
ozozie2s
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday,
May 23, 2001 for the following heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s): Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
File Nuxnber: 4078
Purpose: Appeal of a Aeritage Preservation Commission decision approving a building
permit for construcfion of a tree house (constructed without a building pemut
or HPC approval) with the condifion that the tree house be moved so that its
eastem wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot
line as the main residence.
Location:
5taff
1376 Summit Avenue
No staffrecommendafion.
Commission : Approved with condition on a 6-1 vote. (Two motions were made: First was
to deny the p°rmit :or the `t.ee hoase' in its cur:er.� 1x»?ier., and secon�? ±o
approve the "building pernut confingent upon moving the structure so that its
eastem wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot
line as the main residence: ')
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Pat Harris. My understanding is that
this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your earliest convenience
and that you will publish norice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9078 if you l�ave any quesfions.
Sincerely L `
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Amy Spong
Historic Preservation Specialist
CC: Council Member Pat Harris
Renee Eberly, Brian Engdahl
SAIHS
PAUL
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Coleman, Mayor
May 16, 2001
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paui, MN 55102
Deaz Ms. Anderson:
OFFICEOFLCENSE, INSPECTIONSAND
ENVIRONMENTi1L PROTECT/ON O � _` � °,
Roger Curtis, Disector
LOiPRYPROFESSIONALBUlLIDNG Telephone:611-166-9001
350 St Peter Street Facsimile: 612-266-9099
Suite 310
Saint Paul, Minnuota 55101-I510
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday, May 23
2001 for the foilowing heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s): Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
File Number: 4078
� Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission decision approving a building
pernut for construction of a tree house (constructed without a building pernut or
HPC approval) with the condition that the tree house be moved so that its eastem
wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastem lot line as the
main residence.
Locarion:
Staff :
1376 Sumnut Avenue
No staff recommendarion.
Commission : Approved with condirions on a 6-i vote. (Two motions were made: First was to
deny the pernut for the `tree house' in its current location, and second to approve
the "building permit contingent upon moving the structure so that its eastern wall
is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main
residence.")
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Pat Harris. My understanding is that this public
hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your eazliest convenience and that you will
publish norice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9078 if you have any quesrions.
Sincerely,
� Amy Spon��
Historic Preservarion 5pecialist
Attachments
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� LIST OF ATTAC�NTS:
Attachment A
Attachment B
Attachment C
Attaclunent D
Attachment E
Attachment F
Attachment G
Attachment H
Attachment I
� Attachment J
Photo copies of tree house
Copy of building permit dated September 28, 2000
Site plan and elevarions (provided by the applicant on 10l02(Ol)
Excerpt from October 5, 2000 HPC Minutes
Excerpt from October 19, 2000 HPC Minutes and notes transcribed from
meeting tapes
Conespondence from applicant read at October 19, 2000 HPC Meeting
Correspondence from HPC to applicant and HPC Resolution File #4078
Norice of appeal from applicant and statement on grounds of appeal
Board of Zoning Appeais Resolution #O1-180961 and excerpt from March
26, 2001 Board of Zoning Appeals meeting minutes
Letter from owner to 7olui Hardwick, LIEP, dated May 8, 2001, which
proposes to turn deck into covered porch
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Minutes
Saint Paui Heritage Preservation Commission
October 5, 2000
Commissioners in Attendance: Errigo, Nargens, Larson, Meyer, Murphy, Scott, Wilsey, Wolfgramm,
Younkin
CommissionersAbsent: Beflus, Benton, Foote, Mikos,
Staff Present: Lobejko, Riddering, Skradski
1. Cail to Order. 5:00 p.m. (Vice Chair Hargens).
2. Announcement Skradski stated committee reports would be tabled until the new heritage
preservation specialist begins on October 9, 2000.
3. Approvat of the Aqenda: Approved unanimously.
4. Oid Business
Skradski presented five projects in which action taken on them was not clear, in lieu of the
former HPC staff person's departure. Commissioners told Skradski to consult the
Commission in an informal manner after the meeting
5. New Business: Pubiic Heari�glDesign Review
A. 211 E. 4'-" Street: Skradski reported that sign Faces were installed without HPC
approval or proper permits and that existing signage was already noncompliantwith
district guidelines. Without the applicant in attendance, the HPC did not hear publlc
testimony nor take action.
B. 546 Hollv Avenue: Will Rossbach, Rossbach Construction, explained the proposal
which was to demolish existing side/rear porch and concrete steps and construct a
new covered porch with deck above. Motion to approve the project as proposed
(Scott) was seconded (Larson) and approved unanimously.
C. 732 Marqaret Street: Wayne Lundeen stated he wanted to remove existing driveway,
relocate the garage doors to the west side and install a stone paver driveway. HPC
members asked about door design, and the materials for both the garage and
driveway. Motion to approve the project as proposed (Younkin) was seconded
(Larson) and approved unanimously.
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D. 565 Marshail Avenue: Michaei Terries from Outdoor Renovations explained the type
of windows proposed to repface current, original windows. When asked by
commissioners if other types of windows were considered, Mr. Terries stated `no.'
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Motion to deny the project as proposed (Younkin) was seconded (Larson) and
approved unanimously.
E. 579 Ashland Avenue: After questions about fence height and design, the HPC
decided to move this onto HPC staff for review and possible approval.
691 Davton Avenue: Dave Schilier from the City of Saint Paul asked the HPC which
type of window is allowed for this type of structure (Queen Anne, construded in
1885). The HPC referred this to staff for review and possible approval.
G. 1815 Summit Avenue: Robert Lunning, architect for the owners, for a project to
renovate the front facade. Motion to approve the project (Murphy) was seconded
(Scott) and approved unanimously.
H. 1858 Summit'Avenue: Larson motioned approval of the projectwith two conditions: 'I}
brick set back by four feet from original building; 2) hvo or three double hung wood
windows, placed at will; Younkin seconded tbe motion. Motion approved
unanimously.
I. 382 Maple Street: The applicantwanted to lcno�.v which colors were approved,
according to Skradski; however, since the applicantwas not there, the HPC took no
adion.
J. 725-733 E. 7'-" Street: (Younkir was recused from discussion and decision.) Motion
to approve the project as proposed (Larson) was seconded (Meyer) and
approved unanimously.
K. 90 E 4'-" Street: Fran Golt presented revised plans for the Central Library renovation;
many of the p(ans were from previous HPC member inpuf. The HPC totd fhe
applicants iF the permit applications has the design presented tonight, tY�e HPC would
approve those plans.
� L. 1376 Summit Avenue: Skradski stated the applicant constructed a tree house withoe+t
_._ -_-_ a permit Brian Engdahl explained hQlalked to HPC last spring and was told_he did __
not need a permit. A resident at 1374 Summit Avenue stated opposition to the tree
house, since if significanfiy and negatively a(fered the view from Summit Avenue.
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forwarded to the next full HPC meeting on October 19, 2000.
6. Rdjournment
Vice Chair Hargens adjourned the meeting at 7:20 p.m.
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Minutes
Sainf Pau! Heritage Preservatlon Commiss6on
October 19 a000
Commissioners i� Attendance: Bellus, Foote, Hargens, Larson, Murphy, Wilsey, Wolfgramm
Commissioners Absent:
Staifi Present:
Benton, Errigo, Meyer, P✓�ikos, Scott, Younkin
�obejko, Riddering, Skradski, Spong
1. Ca!! to Order: 5:00 p.m. (Cfiair BelVus)
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2. Announcements: Belius introduced Amy Spong as LIEP's new heritage preservationspecialist.
3. Approval of the Agenda: Agenda approved
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statement to the Commission, summarizi,n,g�points that fhe
project to canstruct a tree house inkhe�'�e��a�d� The ov✓r
Summit Avenue stated opposition to�`f�is Q��ee2;"based on
the visual gap from Summit,�ye�ue that th2tree�ioF�s�e;s,�
submitted a written
;d as relevant to this •
;ighboring 1374
of the structure and
fiils. Ms. Foote
questioned why LBEP staff in;sfructed the applican#s°}Eh�'at;�ti�ey did not need a permit and
asked if documentation w�r� available'_to verify�{iis"i�`avhat occurred. Mr. Skradski
repeated the plan exar,n.In�r�s quest�oning process for permit applicants, claiming plan
examiners' would onk��erbally check with appiieants to determine it the project needed a
permit. Mr. Wofigratt�m stated �ig:Yhinks ihe;tree house added to the characier of the
district and would �ot'vote to den�.z�Othercommissioners agreed with Mr. Wolfgramm
regarding the.style;of the tree house�5iructure, but voiced a concern that it was readily
� uisible from$Su'�[i�t Avenue. Mr:;Ca�son staced the HPC should do two things: 1) vote on
'� the motion tn,de�xth� permii; 2) make a new motion with conditions. Motton to deny
. rpeoject as
I 6- 1(Woifgramm). Larson moved approval of the
of the tree house to the same plane as the house; the
). Mo4ion approved 6 ='1 (Beiius).
B:;;;- 565 NTa�sh` �aTvliehael Terries asked the Commission if it would reconsider its decision to
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deny tfie�r�o�ec#�z�?posed at its Oatober 5, 2000 meeting; no commissioner was willing tc
offer a motior��fo�¢consider. Mr. Terries proposed replacing the sash with aluminum or
wood, thea,;ezpiained the details. Hargens moved approval of replacement sashes,
giving discretion to the owner between aluminum and wood; Wilsey secanded.
Larson aslced about the condition of the casings; Ms. Spong suggested that the casings
�= t and triRia6e repaired; Mr. Terries told the Commission repairing would be very expensive.
� � � - Motaon approvec9 unanimously (7 - O).
�= -� 7��motion to approve wrapping the trim and sills (Larson) was seconded (Hargens)
° and approved unanimousfy (7 - 0). Mc Terries recommended the City give contractors
a fist of HPC districts and individual sites when renewing or applying for the city
contracting license.
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ST PAUL HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OCTOBER 19, 2000 •
NIINUTES
Present: Nfines. Foote, and Wilsey; Messrs. Bellus, Hazgens, Larson, Murphy, and Wolfgramm.
James Bellus, chaired the committee.
1376 SiJMMIT AVEI`TL1E, the owmer constructed a tree house without HPC (Heritage
Preservation Committee) approval.
Amy Spong stated that the owner constructed a tree house in the back yard wiYhout a building
permiY. Ms. Spong stated that they had denied the tree house at the previous HPC Hearing, but a
quorum was not present to make it official.
John Skradski provided photographs of the tree house and clarified that they that had built it
around a tree not attached to the tree as most tree houses.
Commissioner Bellus snggested that the Committee members read the letter sent by the property
orvner of 1376 Summit Avenue before proceeding with the hearing.
Kevin Leuthold, 1374 Summit Avenue, stated that he lives next door. Mr. Leuthold stated that
the tree house does not match either house and fills the gap between the two buildings.
Commissioner Foote, questioned whether the building was a reaP house or a child's play house. •
Commissioner Foote, questioned whether there was any documentation to prove that the owner
had tried to follow the proper procedure.
Mr. Skradski explained the Plan Examiners question process. He stated that the size of their
project and their location in the City are the fizst questions asked by the plan examiners, to
-- -- --- deternaine need for-a-huilding permit and any�pproval needed in�3istoricDistricts. __ __ __ __
F * d been in.o osition To the project at the previous
hearing. He thought that they had misrepresented the size of the project. The Commission
discussed the differences in pemut requirements for regular districts and Historic Districts.
Commissioner Wolfg�amm questioned what couId be more historic than a child's tree house. He
stated it adds to the city, adds to the character of a chitd's life and is well constructed and
designed. Mr. Wolfgramm stated thaY he is voting a�ainst the resolution. He stated that if they
denied the permit aT the zoning level it would be more appropriate, if the tree house violated the
zoning laws.
Commission Hargans questioned whether tl�eir reason for eitber granting or not granting
approval of the resolution was caused by lack of process or lack of historic compatibility.
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Commissioner Larson stated that he thought that it was a minor structure, and that the
commission's position had not required Yhat a minor structure match the house. However, he
noted that this case was the third case in four months, that was asking for approval after the fact.
Commissioner Larson stated that he wanted people to be notified in some way that perxnits aze
required in the historic district and that he wanted them to apply for the permits before they start
building projects.
Commissioner Wilsey stated that she agreed with Commissioner Larson. However, she would
not have a problem with the structure if it were behind the house and not visible from the street.
Commissioner Bellus stated that there were other reasons to deny or approve the proj ect other
than that they did not follow the process correctly.
Commissioner Wilsey stated that just because the structure was a kid's tree house, approving it
when they had denied other projects that could be seen from the street was not fair.
�ommissioner Hargens stated that the structure was on the cusp of what is considered a building.
The tree house is lazge enough and because they build it off the ground it has the appearance of a
. buildin�.
Commissioner Beilus stated that there were several options available to the Commission at this
point. He stated that the Commission could make a motion to deny the project and have a second
motion for approval subject to certain conditions. Commissioner Bellus stated such as moving it
further into the back yard and away from the lot line. He stated rather than waiting for the
Zoning Board to move it over two feet, the Commission could have them move it over ten feet so
iYasflushwith-thehouse. --__-___ ____ _
Commissioner Larson moved to deny the project, which passed 6-1(Wolfgramm).
Commissioner Lazson moved to approve the project subject to the condition that they move the
structure so the eastem wall is setback at least flush with the house. Commissioner Wilsey
seconded the motion.
Commissioner Hazgens stated he liked this move because it addresses the neighbor's privacy
concems and the tree house will no longer be seen from the front yard.
The motion passed 6-1 (Bellus).
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Deat Amy Spong:
Having zeccived notice of Th�usday night's meeting on Tuesday night, Lve are sorry but �i�e
cannut bc pres�nt. Below is a summary ofthe relevant points I discussed witn you today.
Rte bttih a garage that matchcs ihe house 18 yeats ago and 1i�e obtained HPC approval for an
addition to ouz house 7 years ago, so we are not unfamiliaz with HPC �.tidelines or the process.
6/I S('?) - biscussed with neighbozs (Robin Sydor, Kevin Leuthold, !3c Nancy Gan'ett) our
thoughts ofbitilding a tree house c4: the proposed pl�cement. They raised no
objections.
6/30 Called city for information on building requuemenis,ipermits. Brian �t�as told by a plazl
revieweX that a peznut was not needed as ]ong as fhe sknictiuc was under 120 sq. ft. &
the structure was in the back yard. He was advised to call the HPC liaison to see i�
review w�.s required.
7/6 or Called HPC & tall:ed to Aaran Rubenstein. Brian was told that it did not need to go
7(R through HPC review. We were advised to keep it under 120 sq.f t. & in the back yazd.
2nd wk. Met with neighbors to review plans, including footprint & placement o£ structure in
� of 7uly regard to fence and tree, Also 511owad ihezn color photos from a tTeehouse
construction book that iilustrafed fhe materials & colors in which �i�a planned to fuush
the exterior. They voSced no objections.
3rci �vk. Afrer 3 walls were erzcted, Nancy expressed concern that the sight line from the
tr2�house Li�indows would allo��� children to see into their bedroom, which has a
mirrored wall. \Ve went to tlie tree hoase so that slie could see �a�hat could l� seen & I
— -could understand ker concems. I assured her that the wiudows#acine-their property ---
would be covered in some manner.
7/25 - 8!6 On vacation
lG'k. of 8/28 - Tall:ed H2th Nancy about the idea of a tight-weave privacy pane] that thz iv}� could
grow up, which also wuuld provide privacy frotn the deck area, not just tha windo�vs.
She stated that she thought this was a good idea
9(U3 V�'e stopped at the liunbex yazd (�;�here we had seen the privacy panel) to buy it - it w�s
out of stock. �'Je checked many other lumber yards & they either didn't earry it or it
wa,a out of stock. l�Te had to wait until a new shipment eame In,
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Picked up the privacy panel.
A notice was recaived in the mail box that the building inspector had �2sited & needed
access to tree house.
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9126 Brian caIled th� buitding inspector (John Hegner). He stated'that an "inquiry" l�ad
been receiv�d & could see from the file that we had contACted ihe huilding uvpectiaai
departmeztt earliei. He ecune the same aftemoon. He said that if structuse
u�as imder 100 sq. ft. from "eave to eave," a permit & TIPC approval was not needed
since it �vas not a"pernutable^ structure. His measllrements showed that it was just
under 100 sq R.
9l27 - There was a notc left in the riailbox by Mz. Hegner that a building p�miit � required
& where we S�ould go to apply for one.
9/28 - Brinn went to City Hall to apply for a bu$ding permit, He was told that one was not
needed. He informed the staff that Mr. Hegner had directed him to get one. Tltey
took ihe appl9catiou & the check, & told him that they would noc cash the eheck until
the discrepancy was resolvzd. I�e was directed to John Skradski conceming F�PC
regul'ation. Sohn had just left for lunch. Brian left a massage for 7ohzi to call.
9/29 - Contact �F�th John Sl:rads'ki. l'��e were informed that we were on the agenda for the
101� HPC meeiing. He asked ihat we fax a draN�in� of bsek yard, supporting not more
than 3>% of the yard in structnres (in fact it is 16%), & t� bring Pictures.
9/30
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Notice ofHI'C meeting receiv�d. Backyard dimensions' ��ere faxed to Jolm Skradski.
Another building inspector c�*ne (John ?'?), to tal:a pictures before tlzz I�C meetuig,
hecause 7ohn Hegner had not had time to do so. He also took rough measurements.
I informed him that John Aeo er alrzady had taken fia:rly precise mzasuremevts from
tbe eave lines & said that the shucture was 95 sq. ft. & did not need a permit. Jvhn ??
did not pursue the matter further, saying t6at he u�outd go along with, Hegner's caII on
this. He also cammented #hat he atready had taken pictures fram the aIley & tke tre�
l�ousetvzs barely_visible.— —. — — -- -
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7} The structure does not match their honse. -
2) It "fills the spaoe between the houses."
Onr response (not exgressed at the meeting):
1) The struCture fits u�Yh the a*chitecture of g� house, gara�e, & the home and
garage to the ti�esc.
2} The structure is set welt back into our back }'ard, is barely visible from the sidewa1lc
on tltz souih side of Sum.`nit Ave. and not visible a� from the sidewaLl' on the
north side of Sununit Ave.
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26 October 2000
Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
1376 Summit Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105-2218
Dear Mr. Engdahl and Mrs. Eberly:
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OFFiCE OF LSCENSE, INSPECTiOVS A?3D
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RobeN F."essler, Direcror
LOWRYPXOFESSIONALBU/LDk�'G Telep7rorse:65]-266-9040
Suite 300 Fatsimile: 651-266-9099
3J0 St. Peler Streef
SainlPa:il, Mrnneso[a Si102-IS/0
As you know, the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) considered at its October 19, 2000
meeting your application for the `tree house' structure built on your property at 1376 Summit
Avenue. The commission voted to deny your application and then voted again to approve your
app]ication with the condition that the structure be moved behind the main residence. I have enclosed
a copy ofthe commission's resolution stating its findings and decision.
� You have the right to appeal the Commission's decision to the Saint Paul Ciry Council underChapter
73 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code. Such an appeal must be filed within 14 days of receipt of this
]etter. Chapter 73 requires that the following paragraph be included in a1l Ietters indicating denial of a
permit:
(h) Appeal to ciry council. The permit applicant or any party ag�rieved by the decision
of the heritage pzeservation commission shall, within fourteen (14) days of the date of
-- tiie heritage preservation"commission's order an8 decision; have a right to appeal such -
order and decision to the city council. The appeal shalt be deemed perfected upon
receipt by the division of planning of hvo (2) copies of a notice of appeal and statement
setting forth the grounds for the appeal. The division of planning shall transmit one
copy of the notice of appeal and statement to the city council and one copy to the
hexitage preservation commission. The commission, in any written order denying a
permit application, shall advise the applicant of the right to appeal to tbe city council
and include this paragraph in all such orders.
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I spoke with our zoning staff who indicated this structure, in its current location wiThin three feet
of the side properiy line, requires a zoning variance. The HPC based its findings on the historic
district guidelines and not zoning regulations. If you plan to appeal the Commission's decision to
the City Council, the Council would want to know the zoning issue has been resolved. Therefore,
the appeal of tl�e HPC's decision would be delayed until the Board of Zoning Appeals makes their
decision on whether or not to grant the sideyard setback variance. The appeal to City Council still
needs to be filed within 14 days of receipt of this ]etter even thou�h the pub]ic hea*ing would be
delayed until the zoning issue is resolved. Enclosed you tivi11 find a Board of Zonin� Appeals
Application and information about the zoning process.
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Please feel free to call me at 651.266.9078 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
L��,� P
Amy Spong
Iiistoric Preservation Specialist
Enclosure
cc: John Hardwick, LIEP zoning staff
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HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION 12ESOLIJTION
FILE NUMBER 4078
DATE 26 October 2000
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) is authorized by Chapter 73 of the
Saint Pau] Legislative Code to review permit applications for exterior alterations, new construction or
demolifion on or within designated Heritage Preservation Sites or Heritage Preservation Disfricts; and
«'$EI2EAS, Brian Engdahl and Raina E6erly constructed a`tree house' sYructure on their property at
1376 Summit Avenue, located �vithin the Summit Avenue ��est Heritage Preservation District; and
W$EREAS, the owners, Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly applied for the building permit and HPC
approval after the structure �vas built; and
WHET2EAS, the exisTing structure on the site is the Rush $. �Vheeler House, a rivo and one half story
residence desig�ed by Clarence H. Johnston, Sr. and constructed in 1909; it has stucco walls and a
asphalt-shingled hipped roof; and
WHEREAS, the new structure is located in the rear yard hvo feet from the property fence.on the east;
the one story L-shaped structure is raised approximately seven feet off the ground.on wood posts; the
walls are sided with cedar shin�les ar�d The gabled roof has asphalt-shingles; and
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WHEREAS, the following is the citation in the City's Legislative Code concemin� HPC review of �
building permits for new construction:
Chapter 73, Heri[age Preservation Commission; Section 73.06, Review of permits;
Paragraph (i),Factors to be considered:
Before approving any permit application required under paza�raph (d) of this section to
be approved by the heritage preservation commission, the commission shall make
findings based on Yhe piogiatri For the preservation and arcfiifebturZ control for the —
herita�e preservation site in regard to the following:
{3) In the case of a proposed new building, that such building will not in itself, or
by reason of its location on the site, materially impair the architectural or historic
value of buildings on adjacent sites or in the immediate viciniry within the
historic preservation site.
WHEREAS, relevant portions of the Summit Avenue West District Heritage Preservation District
design review guidelines for neiv construction that per[ain to the new buildin� include the following:
Sea 7437. Netv construction. (a) General Principles: The basic principle for ne�i� construction in the
Summit Avenue West District is Yo maintain the scale and quality of design ofthe disfrict. The Summit
Avenue West District is architecturally diverse �vithin an overall pattern of harmony and continuity.
These guidelines for new construction focus on general rather than specifc design elements in order to
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File Number 4078
26 October 2000
encourage architectural innovation and quality design while maintaining the hannony and continuity of
the district New construction should be compatible with the size, scale, massing, height, rh}�thm,
setback, color, material, buiidin� elements, site design, and character of surroundin� structures and fhe
area.
(b) Massing and Scale: New construction should conform to the massing, volume, height, facade
proportions and scale of ex'ssting surrounding structures. The scale of the spaces betv✓een buildings and
the rhytlim of buildings to open space should also be carefully considered.
(c) Mnterials and Details: (1) Variety in the use of a�chitectural materials and details adds to the
intimacy and visua] delight of the district. But there is also an overall thread of continuity provided by
the range of materials commonly used along Summit and by the way these materials are used. This
thread of continuity is threatened by the introduction of new industria] materials and the aggressive
exposure of earlier materials such as concrete block, metal fcaming and glass. The materials and details
of new construction shou(d re]ate to the materials and details of existing nearby buildings.
(d) Building Elements: Individuai elements of a building should be integrated into its composition for a
balanced and complete design. These elements of new construction should compliment existing adjacent
structures as well.
• (I) Roofs. There is a great variety of rooi treatments along Summit, but gab]e and hipped roofs are most
common. The skyline or profile of new construction should re]ate to the predominant roof shape of
exisfing nearby buildings.
The recommended pitch for gable roofs is 9:12 (rise-to-run ratio) and in general the minimum
appropriate pitch is 8:12. Highly visible secondary structure roofs should match the roof pitch of the
main structure. A 6:12 pitch may be acceptable in some cases for secondary structures which are not
visible from the street.
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission, based upon the evidence presented at its
October 19, 2000 public hearing on said permit application, made the fo]]owing findings of fact
concemina the construction of the `tree house' structure:
1. The structure conforms to general guSdelines which encourage architectural innovation and
quality design while maintainin� the harmony and continuity of the d"astrict.
2. The structure's form, materials, roof pitch and sca]e are differentiated from the main residence
yet compatible.
3. The stnicture's location does not take into consideration the scale of the spaces between
buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that based on the above findings, the Heritage Preservation
Commission denies approval of the building permit for the `iree house' in its current location; and
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Heritage Preserva[ion Commission Resolution •
File Number 4078
26 October 2000
BE TT F'Ul2THER RESOLVED, that based on the above findings, the Heritage Preservation
Commission grants approval of the building permit contingent upon moving the structure so that its
eastern �yall is set back to a pIane at least as far advanced from the eastem Iot line as the main residence.
MOVED BY Larson
SECOri'DED BY Wilsey
TN FAVOR 6
AGAINST 1
ABSTAIN 0
Dacisions of the Herifage Preservation Commission are final, subject to appeal to the City Council
within 14 days bp anyone affected by the decision. This resolution does not obviate the need for
meeting applicable building and zoning code requirements, and does not constitute approval for
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7 November 2000
Amy Spong
Lowry Professional Building
Suite 300
350 St. Peter Street
St. Paul, MN 55102-1510
Deaz Ms. Spong:
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This is to inform you that we do plan to appeal the heritage preservation commission's decision
concerning the tree house located at 1376 Summit Avenue. We also are working on resolving the
zoning issue, as instructed in your letter that we received on 30 October 2000. Enclosed are a
copy of a notice of appeal and statement of the grounds for the appeal. A second copy is being
sent to Ms. Nancy Anderson, as you instructed, along with a copy ofthe minutes ofthe heritage
preservation commission meeting.
Please call us at 651-690-3724 if we have omitted any necessary information or if you have
questions.
Sincerely,
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Brian En�ahl
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I�TOtice of Appeal and Statement of Crrounds for the Appeal - Structure at 1376 Summit Ave.
� We are appealing the heritage preservation committee's (HPC) decision concerning the "tree
house" located in the backyazd of our home at 1376 Suirimit (the building inspectors infonmed us
that they consider 3t to be a structure built around a tree). We proceeded with this project in
June/July 2000 entirely in good faith and we followed the instructions we were given by City of
St. Paul LIEP offcials.
We contacted LIEP and were told that we did not need a building pernut but were advised to be
sure the neighbors did not objeCt, and to contact the HPC liaison (Aaron Rubenstein at that time)
conceming the need for their review. Mr. Rubenstein told us that we did not need HPC review as
long as it was in the back yard (According to Amy Spong, she spoke with Mr. Rubenstein and
he does not recall what he told us, one way or the other). We discussed the project with the
neighbors at 1374 Suinmit on at least two occasions, showing them drawings of the structure, the
exact proposed placement, and colored photographs of how we planned to finish the exterior,
and they voiced no objections.
In September, when the project was nearly comp]ete, the neighbors at 1374 Siimmit, who
previously had not raised ob}ections, filed a complaint with the HI'C. Tkus became clear to us
only when they were the only neighborhood people who appeared at the HPC meeting to voice
objections. Mr. Hegner, a building inspector came, took measurements, and told us that we did
not need a building permit, but we would need a signed maintenance easement agreement. The
next day, we were le$ a note that we would need to apply for a building permit. When Brian
went to file the application, LTEP staff told him that he did not need a building permit and only
� took the application after he told them that he had been directed to apply for one. He also was
directed to someone in plans review who told him that we would need an easement agreement and
provided hun with a sample copy.
After the FIPC's meeting of 19 Octobez 2000, we then were instructed to apply for a zoning
variance. After consultation with John Hardwick, LIEP zoning stafF, he informed us that either an
easement agzeement or a zoning variance would be acceptable and we are in the process of
pursuing this. At this point we aze not certain that the structure in question is out of compliance
-- - withthe 3-foot setback requirement: The residents at 1374 �vho aze filed the HI'C-- —
complaint, removed the last lmown monument from a site survey we had done in the about 1983,
prior to having our garage built. Initial drawings submitted to HI'C and LIEP were based on our
recollection that our lot is 40 ft. wide. In the process of collecting infornaation to complete the
zoning variance application, we found that our lot may in fact be 41 ft. wide, based on the width
on which we aze assessed for tases foz sidewalk maintenance, etc. by the City of St. Pau1. 7ohn
Hardwick found nothing in our property's file that would definitively set our property boundaries.
Amy Spong found a gazage building permit application that cited a 40 $. wide lot, but no copy of
the property survey, based on an application subznitted by the property owners. We plan to
pursue the issue of an in detemiinaxrt property line by requesting that the owners of 1374 Si.�tumit
restore the survey monument mazker that they removed.
We further feel that the HPC's decision to grant approval contingent upon moving the structure
is unfeasible, given that the tree house is built around a tree and partially is anchored to two trees.
We fiuther find the HPC's comment that "the structure's location does not take into consideration
the scale of the spaces between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space" to be vague
� and open to subjective judgement. The structure is visible, in any part, for a distance of about 30
ft. from the front sidewalk, and primarily visible (i.e., the main structure - not just a glimpse of
eaue or deck) from only 10-I S ft. If the issue is one of visibility from the street, we believe that
means other than moving the structure could be taken to block the view.
In reviewing the HPC's charter, we notice that it is an advisory body, with authority to review
and approve/deny applications for buitding pernuts. Given that we were told by LIEP, on three
occasions, that this structure did not need a building pernut, a decision tt�at later was "reversed"
by the HPC, we aze left wondering if the applicaYion for a building permit was required solely to
provide the HPC with authority to review this project. If this is the case, we should have beer_
informed when we made the initiat inquiry.
Throughout this process we have been told three times that we did not need a building pemrit
and then had HPC instruct us otherwise, were toid we did not need HPC review (and later were
toid othercvise in response to a neighbor complaint), were told twice by LIEP stafF that we
needed an easement agreement and later told by HPC that we need a zoning variance, and had
one seY of neighbors reverse themselves on an agreement Yhat they had an opportunity to review
on at least two occasions. We have dealt with three different persons in the position of HPC
liaison. At this point, it appears tt�at we may need to pay $180 for an application for a zoning
vaziance for a structure for wluch we uutially were told we didn't even need a pernut and which
had the approval ofthe most affected neighbors (however, Mr. Hardwick assured me that we
would not be charged the additionat penalty of $225 for filing a zoning variance application for
building a structure wzThout a bnilding permit). We feel the City has some responsibility in the
current situation, given the number of times that we have been given either the wrong information
or the city officials reversed themselves on information that we had been given. Unfortunately,
when a citizen calls a city official for information or guidelines, apparently there is no record kept
by that official of what the citizen was advised ar told. When Mr. Hazdwick was asked about his
opinion about how a the issue of a child's tree house had escalated into such a"nightmaze," he
responded (paraphrasing), "this is not a situation that occurs often (a tree house), the buiiding
code is vague in this regard, and thus it is open to various interpretations".
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In ciosing, we would like to ask that the City Council back its city officials in their initial
interpretations of the building code and HPC guidelines. We also would like to put on record that
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS RESOLUTION
ZONING FILE NiTMBER: Ol - 180961
DATE: March 26, 2001
WHEREAS, Brian Engdahi & Raina Eberly has applied for a variance from the strict application
of the provisions of Section 62.1Q6 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code pertainin� to the
construction of a tree house/play house structure in the rear yard in the R-2 zoning district at
1376 Summit Avenue; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Board of Zoning Appeals conducted a public hearing on March 26,
2001 pursuant to said application in accordance with the requirements of Section 64.203 of the
Legislative Code; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paui Board of Zoning Appeals based upon evidence presented at the
public hearing, as substantially reflected in the minutes, made the following findings of fact:
1. The property in question cannot be put to a reasonable use under the strict provisionns of the
code.
. The applicants appear to have followed all of the proper procedures priar to constructing the
tree house/play house. They checked on the permit requirements as well as the HPC
requirements and were given misleading information. They also discussed the project with
their neighbors and were given no indication that there would be any objections to the
psoposed structure. It is clear that there has been some confusion in LIEP over issues such as
this in a heritage preservation dish In August of 2000, the HPC staffperson at that time
sent a memo to various staff in LIEP, the City Attorney and the Executive Committee of the
HPC, in an effort to clarify exactly what types of work require a building permit and HPC
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approval. That memorandum clearly stated that a sfied of any size required a permit an�
HPC approval. However, it also left open for discussion if play equipment should be
included in the list of things that should require a permit and HPC approval. In November of
2000, the City Building Official drafted a clear written policy stating that any exterior
construction or alteration within a designated herita�e preservation district, other than
painting ar landscaping, requires a permit and HPC review. Unfortunately, this clarification
came too late to help the applicants.
The applicants wanted to construct a small, 10 foot by 10 foot tree house/play house for their
daughter in the rear yard. Play equipment for children is a xeasonable use for residential
property, whether it is the kind of equipment you can purchase with slides, swings, platforms
etc., or a custom built tree house/play house such as the applicants have constructed. The
only tree in their yard that would serve this purpose is located close to the eastem property
line. The play house, after incorporating the tree within the structure, ended up 1.24 feet
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away from the east property line. For zoning purposes, an accessory stracYure, requires a 3-
foot side yard setback when located in a rear yard. The applicants could not incorporate the
tree within the structure and still meet the required 3 foot setback.
2. The plight of tlze Zand owner is due to circun�stances unique to this property, and these
circumstances were not created by the land owner.
The location of the tree in the applicanfs' yard as well as the lack of a clear, written policy
concerning these type of structures at the time the tree house/play house was built, are
circumstances that were not created by the app2icants.
3. The proposed variance is in keeping with the spirit and intent of the code, and is consistent
wizh the health, safety, comfort, morals and welfare of the inhabitants of the Ciry of St. Paul.
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The desire to provide a tree house/play house for their daughter is a reasonabPe request. The
structure is approximately 10 feet by 10 feet. There are two small decks attached to the
structure which increase the size to about 12 feet by 12 feet. This is not an excessive size
regardless if it is considered a play house, play equipment or an accessory structure.
Accessory sfixctures, and/or play equipment, when located in a rear yazd are permitted uses
in residential districts. The relatively minor 20 inch variance, required because of the
location of the tree on the lot, is in keeping with the spirit and inTent of the code. •
4. The proposed variance wi11 not impair an adequate szepply of Zight and air to adjacent
property, nor will it alter the essential character of the surrounding area or unreasonably
diminish establisherl property values within tlze sur area.
The neighborin� property owner at 1374 Summit Avenue has expressed concem that the tree
-- - house will aitow the applicants' daughter and her friends to look into the rear windows of
their house. However, moving the structure 20 inches further away from the property line
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Preservation Association (SARPA) has submitted a letter in opposition to this variance
request statin� that the size, scale, materials, windows, doors, color, setback, and character of
the playhouse are incompatible with sunounding structures in the neighborhood. This is in
direct conflict with the findings ofthe HPC which found that the structure's form, materials
and scale, while differenY from the main residence, are compatible. The letter fram SARPA
further states that the entire width of the play house can be seen from Summit Avenue
disrupting the rhythm of buildings to open space. This statement is in agreement with the
findings of the HPC. However, when staff visited the site, only a portion of the tree
house/play house was visible from the streef and then onIy when directly in front of the
house. It was not visible from the alley due to the 6-foot obscuring fence sunoundin� the
rear yard of the property. 5taff considered recommending that the existing obscuring fence
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be raised across from the tree house/play house or that a new barrier attached directly to the
eastem side of the play house be constructed, in order to address the concems of the
neighbor. However, since the style and design of the tree house/play house has been
approved by the HPC, staff is reluctant to recommend any changes to the structure. We have
received 4letters of support for this request from the property owners of 1367 Grand Avenue,
across the alley from this property, 1382 Summit, 1390 Summit and 1364 Summit, who all
felt that the tree house/play house was exceptionally well built and was an asset to the
neighborhood .
When visiting the site, staff noticed that the neighboring property at 1374 Summit Avenue
has a shed that encroaches onto the applicants' property. Staff could find no permit for this
shed ar any ir�dication that it was ever approved by the HPC. The relatively minor 20 inch
setback variance requesfed will not significantly affect the supply of light or air to the
adjacent property nar given the existence of other noncomplying accessory structures in the
immediate area, will it aiter the character or the neighborhood.
5. The variance, ifgranted, would not permit any use that is not permitted under the provisions
of the cocie for the property in the district where the affected land is located, nor would it
alter or change the zoning c�istrict classifzcation of the property.
. Accessory structures and/or play equipment aze permitted in all zoning districts. The
proposed variance, if granted, will not change or alter the zoning classification of the
property.
6. The request for variance is not based pYimariZy on a desire to zncrease the value or income
potential of the parcel of land.
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NOW, TAEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Saint Paul Board of Zoning Appeals that the
provisions of Section 62.106 are hereby waived to allow a side yard setback of 1.24 feet; subject
to the condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate building and electrical permits for the
project. In order to construct a tree house/play house structure in the rear yard on property
located at 1376 Summit Avenue; and legally described as Wann's Additon To St. Paul Ex Ave
Lot 9 Blk 1; in accordance with the application for variance and the site plan on file with the
Zoning Administrator.
MOVED BY : Galles
SECONDED BY: 1v�orton
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MAILED: March 27, 2001
TIME LIMIT: No order of the Board of Zoning Appeals permitting the erection or
alterafion of a building or off-street parking facility shall be valid for a
period longer than one year, unless a building permit for such erection or
alteration is obtained within such period and such erection or alteration is
proceeding pursuant to the terms of such permit. The Board of Zoning
Appeals or the City Council may grant an extension nof fo exceed one year.
In granting such extension, the Board of Zoning Appeals may decide to hold
a public hearing.
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APPEAL: Decisions of the Board of Zoning Appeats are finai subject to appeal to the
City Council within 15 days by anyone affected by the decision. Building
permits shall not be issued after an appeal has been filed. If perauts have
been issued before an appeal has been filed, fhen the perraits are suspended
and construction sha11 cease until tLe City Council has made a final
determination of the appeal. .
CERTIFICATI01��: I, the undersigned Secretarq to the Board of Zoning Appeats for the City of
Saint Paul, DZinnesota, do hereby certify that I have compared the foregoing
copy with the orib nal record in my office; and find the same to be a true and
correct copy of said original and of the whole thereof, as based on approved
minutes of the Sa4nt Paul Board of Zoning Appeais meetiag held on
March 26, 2001 and on record in the Office of License Inspection and
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SAINT PAUL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
Debbie Crippen
Secretary to the Board
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 330 CITY HALL
ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA, MARCH 26, 2001
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• PRESBNT: Mmes. Maddox, and Morton; Messis. Duckstad, Faricy, Gailes, Kleindl, and Wilson of
the Board of Zoning Appeals; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mr. Hardwick and
Ms. Crippen of the Office of License, Inspection, and Environmental Protection.
ABSENT: Vince Courtney *
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The meeting was chaired by 7oyce Maddox, Chair.
Brian Enadahl & Raina Eberlv (lt01-180961) 1376 Summit Avenue: A side yard setback
variance in order to construct a play house/tree house structure in the rear yard. A setback of 3 feet is
required and a setback of 1.24 feetis proposed, for a variance of 1.76 feet.
The applicant was present. There was opposition present at the hearing.
Mr. Hardwick showed slides of the site and reviewed the staff report with a recommendation for
appioval, subject to the condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate building and electrical
permits for the project.
One letter was received in opposition to the variance request from SARPA (Summit Avenue Residential
Preservation Association).
Five neighbors sent letters in support of the variance: 1367 Grand Avenue, 1382 Summit Avenue, 1390
Summit Avenue, 1364 Summit Avenue, and 1396 Summit Avenue.
No correspondence was received regarding the variance from District 14.
Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, 1376 Summit Avenue. Ms. fiberly submitted an additional letter in
support of the variance and addifional photos of the backyard and tree house/play house. She staeed
that they built the tree house in the spring not in the fall as stated in the staff report. Ms. Bberly stated
---that the tree house could be-seen for 15-feet while walking-onxhe-front sidewalk. _-
Mr. Engdahl stated that they had always tried to cooperate with the neighbors and the Heritage
Commission during their 20 years of living in their home on Summit.
Laura Kochevar, 1390 Summit Avenue, stated that she lives two doors down from the tree house and
has a full view of it from her yard. She stated that when walking, biking, or driving on Summit
Avenue the tree house is not noticeable. Ms. Kochevar stated that they love the tree house and would
like to see it stay.
Robin Cider, 1374 Summit Avenue - Unit l, stated that she opposed the granting of the setback
variance to construct the tree house. She stated that there was a tree directly behind the house that
could be used for the tree house that would not encroach on the property line. Ms. Cider stated that
plans for tree house/play house plans considered a six foot by six foot structure large and the applicant
chose to build a very large ten foot by ten foot tree house/play house. She stated that the plans shown
to the neighbors did not reflect the final structure. Ms. Cider stated that the tree house was much
larger in width and height. The play houseltree house became a two-srory structure on the fence line
with windows, glass doors and electriciry.
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Ms. Cider submitted photos of children in the tree house hanging off the safety railing and falIing to the �
ground into her yard. She sTated concerns abouT the liabiliTy issues regarding the children falling into
her yard and injuring themselves. Ms. Cider stated that they have noise, light and privacy
encroachments not supported by the proposed variance. She stated that the tree house blocks one third
of the air flow and light from their property on the west and significantly altexs the essential character
of the surronnding area. Ms. Cider stated that the tree house/play house violaYes The HisToric --
Preservation District Guidelines and HPC (Heritage Preservation Commission) has denied a variance
for this properry. She stated that the SARPA also supports the recommendation of the HPC to deny.
Ms. Cider stated that the FTPC resolved to approve the structure provided they move it in line with the
principle structure on the property. She stated that the neighbors support the decision eo deny the
structure in the present location. Ms. Cider stated that the HPC judgement regarding the visual
encroachment of Summit Avenue would take precedence due to the unique nature of the historic street.
She stated that the structure reduces the historic value of the neighboring properties and has disturbed
the neighborhood.
Nancy Garrett, 1374 Summit Avenue, stated that they thought that the variance request failed to meet
four of the six requirements of the Ciry Zoning Code. She stated that there was no reason that the tree
house/play house had to be placed on the property line when there is another tree in the cenier of the
yard. Ms, Garrett sta[ed that there were no unique circumstances related to the properry. Ms. Garrett
stated that the side yard setback Zoning Code is in piace to protect neighbors from issues such as light
pollution, noise pollution, and liability from neighbors actions and these are all concerns heze. She
stated that twice this spring she had seen kids climbing over the safery railing and hanging over her
yard. Ms. Garrett stated that on March 10, 2001 two kids had jumped into their yard and had they
been injured, she could be held accountable. She stated that the structure acts as a 15-foot fence .
blocking several hours of direct sunIight from her yard. Ms. Garrett stated that there are many doors
and windows facing her home causing a lack of privacy. She stated that the glass doors are placed
directly over her front yard and the kids constantly bang the doors. Ms. Garrett stated that her
bedroom is about 15 feet from the entry to the tree house. She stated that the electricity is an issue
because when the lights are on in the tree house, it also lights up her bedroom even with the blinds
closed. Ms. Ganett stated that there is also a built-in bed, with kids sleeping in the tree house there is
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her sleep because they were working on the tree house after 9:00 p.m. Ms. Garrett stated that moving
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from the other buildings and landscaping. She requested that ttte Board uphold the law and deny the
variance request Ms. Garrett stated that they had tried ofren to commnnicate their concerns during the
building process, but thought that their concerns had not been listened to.
Ms. Eberly, stated that they did not have rnany ckoices for the tree house/play house. She stated that
the tree behind the house was over the back sidewalk, and the tree further back in the yard has a pond
below it so it was not a good choice. Ms. Eberly stated that the two trees, the tree house/play house is
attached to is a better choice giving the tree house more stabiliry than a single tree would. She stated
- that because fhe doots they had found were bigger than they,wan[ed it_became necessary to allow more
room for the door to open. Ms. Eberly stated that they made the tree house/play house smaller and the
deck larger because of the trouble with the door.
Heating no further testimony, Ms. Maddox ctosed the public portion of the meeting.
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� Mr. Galles moved to approve the variance and resolution based on findings 1 through 6, subject to the
condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate buiiding and electrical permits for the project.
Ms. Morton seconded the motion, which passed on a roll call vote of 7-0.
Submitted by:
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Brian Engdahl & Raina Eberly
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St. Paul, MN 55105
May 8, 2001
7ohn Hardwick, LIEP
350 St. Peter St., Suite 300
St. Paul, MN 55102-1510
Dear Mr. Hazdwick:
As mentioned in the telephone message, we have reached a compromise with our neighbor,
Robin Sydor, on the tree house. The revision essentially would turn the deck on the east side into
a covered porch. The view from the north (Suinmit Ave.) would not change much. Enclosed are
sketches of the cunent view from the east and the proposed view. We have agreed to do this if it
is approved by the City.
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
The Saint Paul City Council will conduct a public hearing on Wednesday, May 23,
2001, at 5:30 p.m., City Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City Ha11, to consider the
appeal of Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly of a Heritage Preservation Commission
(HPC) decision approving a building permit for construction of a tree house
(constructed without a building permit or HPC approval) with the condition
that the tree house be moved so that its eastern wall is set back to a plane at least as
far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main residence at 1376 Summit
Avenue.
Dated: May 3, 2001
Nancy Anderson
Assistant City Council Secretary
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2 WHEREAS, Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, in HPC File No. 4078, made application
3 to the Heritage Preservation Commission (hereinafter the "Commission") for a building permit
4 for a"tree house" structure in the rear yard of their properiy which is located in the Summit
5 Avenue West Heritage Preservation District and is commonly known as 1376 Sununit Avenue,
6 legally described as noted in the referenced HPC file; and
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9 having provided notice to affected property owners. By its Resolution No. 4078 adopted October
10 26, 2000, the Commission moved to deny the building permit based upon the location of the
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structure for the following reasons:
1. The structure conforms to general guidelines which encourage architectural
innovation and quality design while maintaining the harmony and continuity of
the district.
2. The structure's form, materials, roofpitch and scare are differentiated fro the
main residence yet compatible.
3. The shucture's location does not take into consideration the scale of the spaces
between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space.
WHEREAS, the Commission then moved in Resolution No. 4078 to grant the building
permit "contingent upon moving the siructure so that its eastem wall is set back to a plane at least
as far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main residence."
WHEREAS, pursuant to Saint Paul Legislative Code § 73.06, Brian Engdahl and Raina
Eberly duly filed an appeal from the determination made by the Commission and requested a
hearing before the City Council far the purposes of considering the actions taken by said
Commission; and
WHEREAS, acting pursuant to Legfslative Code § 73.06 and upon notice to affected
parties, a public hearing was duly conducted by the City Council on May 23, 2001, where all
interested parties were given an opportunity to be heard; and
WHEREAS, the Council having heard the statements made, and having considered the
application, the report of staff, the record, minutes, and resolution of the Commission, does
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RESOLVE, to reverse the Commission's decision in this matter. The Council finds,
1 based upon all the files, information, and the testimony gathered at the public hearing, that the p � a
2 Commission erred in its fmdings contained in Commission Resolution No. 4078 in support of
3 granting the building permit subject to the condition that the shucture in question be moved
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6 1. While the tree house is visible from Summit Avenue, it is visible only briefly
7 depending on how fast one travels past the property. The fact that the tree house is
8 visible does not support a definitive finding that the tree house "does not take into
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22
from Summit Avenue. Those measures include planting trees to screen the tree house
from view.
2. The Commission found that the architecture, materials and consriuction of the tree
house aze, in all other respects, compatible with the historic district.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the appeal of Brian Engdahl and Raina
Eberly be and is hereby granted; and be it
FINALLY RESOLVED, that the Council secretary shall mail a copy of Yhis resolution
to Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, the Zoning Administrator and to the Commission.
Requested by Department of:
By:
Form Approv d by City Attorney
B ���✓�/�-�-� 6-/�-v�
Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
BY� �� � I ,-i� By:
Approved by Mayor: Date VI! /� b�/
By'
Adopted by Council: Date �-�� ���\
Adogtion Certified by Council cretary
Ol.L1el
DEPARTMINiroFFI(�ICOUNCIL onie wmnim " _ - �
CITY COUNCIL .r„ne zo zoo� GREEN SHEET No ���766
c�nACr a�zs� & a � +or �L66-8630 �` ""�"
Councilmember Hasris � oa,,mr�rwuaa, arrcarra
MUSi BE ON COUNCIL AGHIQ4 BY (04Tq ❑ ❑
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June 27, 2001 (Consent) ��� a,r.,,oeEr a,raau
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TOTAL;E OF SIGNATURE PAGES (CUP ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE)
CTION REQUESTED
Memorializing City Council action taken on May 23, 2001, granting the appeal o£ Brian Engdahl
and Raina Eberly from a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission regarding the con-
struction of a tree house at 1376 Summit Avenue.
RECAMMENDA ION Approve (A) w Reject (R) VERSONAISERVICE CANTRAGfS MUSTANSWER TNE iOLLOWING QUESTIONS:
1. Has this Pe�M�m everv.wketl under e coMract fa Mis dePa�meM7
PLANNINGCOMMISSION YES NO
CIBCOMMITTEE 2 HasttiispersmRrmererbeenacilyempbyee'7
qVIL SERVICE COMMISSION YES NO
3. Ooes Mis persoMrm P�� a sldli no[ nomiatlYGossessetl bY airy curte�R d[Y empioyee�
VES NO
4. Is tAie pe�soNfiim a tarpetedvendoR
YES NO
F�lain all Yes answe�s on seParate sheet anE attach W Hreen shec4
INITIATING PROBLEM ISSUE, OPPOR7UNITY (VJho, What, When, Where, Why) �
ADVANTAGESIFAPPROVED
DISAWANTAGES IF APPROVED
DISADVANTAGES IF NOT APPROVED
TOLLL AMOUNT OF TRANSACTION i COS7/FtEVENUE BUD6ETED (GRCLE ONq YES NO
FUNDMGSOURCE ACTNITYNUMBER
FlWWLW.INFORMATON (IXPLNI�
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norzn Colem¢rt, Mayor
Hand Deltvered
June 18, 2001
Nancy Anderson
Council Secretary
Room 310 City Hall
OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY
Claytorz M Robinson, Jn, Ciry Attorney O� � C' �
civitDivisioa
400 City�Ha[1 Telephone: 65] ?66-871Q
!S Wut Ke[Iogg Blvd. Facsimile: 6.i7 2985619
Saint Pau[, Minnesota »IO?
RE: Resolution memorializing the Council's decision to grant the appeal of Engdahl and
Eberly from a decision of the Heritage Preservation Commission for the property at 1376
Summit Avenue. Conncil Action Date: May 23, 2001
Dear Nancy:
Attached please find a signed, original resolution memorializing the decision of the council in the
matter and on the date noted above. Please add this item to the CounciPs consent agenda at your
earliest convenience. If you have questions, do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
Y � �L/G�aY+Q�
eter W. Wamer
e �—�
OFF[CE OF LICbNSE, B3SPECTIONS AND
EN V IlZONMEN'CAL PYtOTECTION
Roger Curtis, Director
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N01ZCE OF POBIdC HEABIIiC:
CTfY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Colerrsan, Mayor
Apri123,2001
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Deaz Ms. Anderson:
LOWRYPR The Samt Paul City Coimdl wfll con- 090
Suite 300 duct a public hearing on Wednesday, May �099
350 St Pete 23, 2001, at 5:30 p.m., City Cound7 .
Saint Povl. Cl�ambecs; 3rd Floor GYty Hall. tn oonsider
fihe appeal of Brian Engdalil and Raina
Eberly of a Heritage Preservation
Commisstion (f�CJ decision approving a
building permit for conslruction of a tree
house [wnstructed wlthout a bwldin�+ per'
mit or T�C approval) with the condition
that the tree hwse be mwed so that its
eastern wall Is set tiack to a plane at least
as far.advanced the eastern lot llne as
the mafn residence at 1376 Summit
Avenue.
Dated: May 3, 2001 _
NANCYANDERSON �
- . Asslstant GYty Council Seeretary - ,
Qu1aY �
81:PAULIEGALlSDGBR
ozozie2s
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday,
May 23, 2001 for the following heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s): Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
File Nuxnber: 4078
Purpose: Appeal of a Aeritage Preservation Commission decision approving a building
permit for construcfion of a tree house (constructed without a building pemut
or HPC approval) with the condifion that the tree house be moved so that its
eastem wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot
line as the main residence.
Location:
5taff
1376 Summit Avenue
No staffrecommendafion.
Commission : Approved with condition on a 6-1 vote. (Two motions were made: First was
to deny the p°rmit :or the `t.ee hoase' in its cur:er.� 1x»?ier., and secon�? ±o
approve the "building pernut confingent upon moving the structure so that its
eastem wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot
line as the main residence: ')
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Pat Harris. My understanding is that
this public hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your earliest convenience
and that you will publish norice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9078 if you l�ave any quesfions.
Sincerely L `
�.�
r �i
Amy Spong
Historic Preservation Specialist
CC: Council Member Pat Harris
Renee Eberly, Brian Engdahl
SAIHS
PAUL
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
Norm Coleman, Mayor
May 16, 2001
Ms. Nancy Anderson
City Council Research Office
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paui, MN 55102
Deaz Ms. Anderson:
OFFICEOFLCENSE, INSPECTIONSAND
ENVIRONMENTi1L PROTECT/ON O � _` � °,
Roger Curtis, Disector
LOiPRYPROFESSIONALBUlLIDNG Telephone:611-166-9001
350 St Peter Street Facsimile: 612-266-9099
Suite 310
Saint Paul, Minnuota 55101-I510
I would like to confirm that a public hearing before the City Council is scheduled for Wednesday, May 23
2001 for the foilowing heritage preservation case:
Appellant(s): Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
File Number: 4078
� Purpose: Appeal of a Heritage Preservation Commission decision approving a building
pernut for construction of a tree house (constructed without a building pernut or
HPC approval) with the condition that the tree house be moved so that its eastem
wall is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastem lot line as the
main residence.
Locarion:
Staff :
1376 Sumnut Avenue
No staff recommendarion.
Commission : Approved with condirions on a 6-i vote. (Two motions were made: First was to
deny the pernut for the `tree house' in its current location, and second to approve
the "building permit contingent upon moving the structure so that its eastern wall
is set back to a plane at least as far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main
residence.")
I have confirmed this date with the office of Council Member Pat Harris. My understanding is that this public
hearing request will appear on the agenda of the City Council at your eazliest convenience and that you will
publish norice of the hearing in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Thanks!
Please call me at 266-9078 if you have any quesrions.
Sincerely,
� Amy Spon��
Historic Preservarion 5pecialist
Attachments
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� LIST OF ATTAC�NTS:
Attachment A
Attachment B
Attachment C
Attaclunent D
Attachment E
Attachment F
Attachment G
Attachment H
Attachment I
� Attachment J
Photo copies of tree house
Copy of building permit dated September 28, 2000
Site plan and elevarions (provided by the applicant on 10l02(Ol)
Excerpt from October 5, 2000 HPC Minutes
Excerpt from October 19, 2000 HPC Minutes and notes transcribed from
meeting tapes
Conespondence from applicant read at October 19, 2000 HPC Meeting
Correspondence from HPC to applicant and HPC Resolution File #4078
Norice of appeal from applicant and statement on grounds of appeal
Board of Zoning Appeais Resolution #O1-180961 and excerpt from March
26, 2001 Board of Zoning Appeals meeting minutes
Letter from owner to 7olui Hardwick, LIEP, dated May 8, 2001, which
proposes to turn deck into covered porch
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Minutes
Saint Paui Heritage Preservation Commission
October 5, 2000
Commissioners in Attendance: Errigo, Nargens, Larson, Meyer, Murphy, Scott, Wilsey, Wolfgramm,
Younkin
CommissionersAbsent: Beflus, Benton, Foote, Mikos,
Staff Present: Lobejko, Riddering, Skradski
1. Cail to Order. 5:00 p.m. (Vice Chair Hargens).
2. Announcement Skradski stated committee reports would be tabled until the new heritage
preservation specialist begins on October 9, 2000.
3. Approvat of the Aqenda: Approved unanimously.
4. Oid Business
Skradski presented five projects in which action taken on them was not clear, in lieu of the
former HPC staff person's departure. Commissioners told Skradski to consult the
Commission in an informal manner after the meeting
5. New Business: Pubiic Heari�glDesign Review
A. 211 E. 4'-" Street: Skradski reported that sign Faces were installed without HPC
approval or proper permits and that existing signage was already noncompliantwith
district guidelines. Without the applicant in attendance, the HPC did not hear publlc
testimony nor take action.
B. 546 Hollv Avenue: Will Rossbach, Rossbach Construction, explained the proposal
which was to demolish existing side/rear porch and concrete steps and construct a
new covered porch with deck above. Motion to approve the project as proposed
(Scott) was seconded (Larson) and approved unanimously.
C. 732 Marqaret Street: Wayne Lundeen stated he wanted to remove existing driveway,
relocate the garage doors to the west side and install a stone paver driveway. HPC
members asked about door design, and the materials for both the garage and
driveway. Motion to approve the project as proposed (Younkin) was seconded
(Larson) and approved unanimously.
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D. 565 Marshail Avenue: Michaei Terries from Outdoor Renovations explained the type
of windows proposed to repface current, original windows. When asked by
commissioners if other types of windows were considered, Mr. Terries stated `no.'
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Motion to deny the project as proposed (Younkin) was seconded (Larson) and
approved unanimously.
E. 579 Ashland Avenue: After questions about fence height and design, the HPC
decided to move this onto HPC staff for review and possible approval.
691 Davton Avenue: Dave Schilier from the City of Saint Paul asked the HPC which
type of window is allowed for this type of structure (Queen Anne, construded in
1885). The HPC referred this to staff for review and possible approval.
G. 1815 Summit Avenue: Robert Lunning, architect for the owners, for a project to
renovate the front facade. Motion to approve the project (Murphy) was seconded
(Scott) and approved unanimously.
H. 1858 Summit'Avenue: Larson motioned approval of the projectwith two conditions: 'I}
brick set back by four feet from original building; 2) hvo or three double hung wood
windows, placed at will; Younkin seconded tbe motion. Motion approved
unanimously.
I. 382 Maple Street: The applicantwanted to lcno�.v which colors were approved,
according to Skradski; however, since the applicantwas not there, the HPC took no
adion.
J. 725-733 E. 7'-" Street: (Younkir was recused from discussion and decision.) Motion
to approve the project as proposed (Larson) was seconded (Meyer) and
approved unanimously.
K. 90 E 4'-" Street: Fran Golt presented revised plans for the Central Library renovation;
many of the p(ans were from previous HPC member inpuf. The HPC totd fhe
applicants iF the permit applications has the design presented tonight, tY�e HPC would
approve those plans.
� L. 1376 Summit Avenue: Skradski stated the applicant constructed a tree house withoe+t
_._ -_-_ a permit Brian Engdahl explained hQlalked to HPC last spring and was told_he did __
not need a permit. A resident at 1374 Summit Avenue stated opposition to the tree
house, since if significanfiy and negatively a(fered the view from Summit Avenue.
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forwarded to the next full HPC meeting on October 19, 2000.
6. Rdjournment
Vice Chair Hargens adjourned the meeting at 7:20 p.m.
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Minutes
Sainf Pau! Heritage Preservatlon Commiss6on
October 19 a000
Commissioners i� Attendance: Bellus, Foote, Hargens, Larson, Murphy, Wilsey, Wolfgramm
Commissioners Absent:
Staifi Present:
Benton, Errigo, Meyer, P✓�ikos, Scott, Younkin
�obejko, Riddering, Skradski, Spong
1. Ca!! to Order: 5:00 p.m. (Cfiair BelVus)
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2. Announcements: Belius introduced Amy Spong as LIEP's new heritage preservationspecialist.
3. Approval of the Agenda: Agenda approved
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—"—'� A. 1376 Summit Avenue: The owners/appiicants could not�ft„
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statement to the Commission, summarizi,n,g�points that fhe
project to canstruct a tree house inkhe�'�e��a�d� The ov✓r
Summit Avenue stated opposition to�`f�is Q��ee2;"based on
the visual gap from Summit,�ye�ue that th2tree�ioF�s�e;s,�
submitted a written
;d as relevant to this •
;ighboring 1374
of the structure and
fiils. Ms. Foote
questioned why LBEP staff in;sfructed the applican#s°}Eh�'at;�ti�ey did not need a permit and
asked if documentation w�r� available'_to verify�{iis"i�`avhat occurred. Mr. Skradski
repeated the plan exar,n.In�r�s quest�oning process for permit applicants, claiming plan
examiners' would onk��erbally check with appiieants to determine it the project needed a
permit. Mr. Wofigratt�m stated �ig:Yhinks ihe;tree house added to the characier of the
district and would �ot'vote to den�.z�Othercommissioners agreed with Mr. Wolfgramm
regarding the.style;of the tree house�5iructure, but voiced a concern that it was readily
� uisible from$Su'�[i�t Avenue. Mr:;Ca�son staced the HPC should do two things: 1) vote on
'� the motion tn,de�xth� permii; 2) make a new motion with conditions. Motton to deny
. rpeoject as
I 6- 1(Woifgramm). Larson moved approval of the
of the tree house to the same plane as the house; the
). Mo4ion approved 6 ='1 (Beiius).
B:;;;- 565 NTa�sh` �aTvliehael Terries asked the Commission if it would reconsider its decision to
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deny tfie�r�o�ec#�z�?posed at its Oatober 5, 2000 meeting; no commissioner was willing tc
offer a motior��fo�¢consider. Mr. Terries proposed replacing the sash with aluminum or
wood, thea,;ezpiained the details. Hargens moved approval of replacement sashes,
giving discretion to the owner between aluminum and wood; Wilsey secanded.
Larson aslced about the condition of the casings; Ms. Spong suggested that the casings
�= t and triRia6e repaired; Mr. Terries told the Commission repairing would be very expensive.
� � � - Motaon approvec9 unanimously (7 - O).
�= -� 7��motion to approve wrapping the trim and sills (Larson) was seconded (Hargens)
° and approved unanimousfy (7 - 0). Mc Terries recommended the City give contractors
a fist of HPC districts and individual sites when renewing or applying for the city
contracting license.
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ST PAUL HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OCTOBER 19, 2000 •
NIINUTES
Present: Nfines. Foote, and Wilsey; Messrs. Bellus, Hazgens, Larson, Murphy, and Wolfgramm.
James Bellus, chaired the committee.
1376 SiJMMIT AVEI`TL1E, the owmer constructed a tree house without HPC (Heritage
Preservation Committee) approval.
Amy Spong stated that the owner constructed a tree house in the back yard wiYhout a building
permiY. Ms. Spong stated that they had denied the tree house at the previous HPC Hearing, but a
quorum was not present to make it official.
John Skradski provided photographs of the tree house and clarified that they that had built it
around a tree not attached to the tree as most tree houses.
Commissioner Bellus snggested that the Committee members read the letter sent by the property
orvner of 1376 Summit Avenue before proceeding with the hearing.
Kevin Leuthold, 1374 Summit Avenue, stated that he lives next door. Mr. Leuthold stated that
the tree house does not match either house and fills the gap between the two buildings.
Commissioner Foote, questioned whether the building was a reaP house or a child's play house. •
Commissioner Foote, questioned whether there was any documentation to prove that the owner
had tried to follow the proper procedure.
Mr. Skradski explained the Plan Examiners question process. He stated that the size of their
project and their location in the City are the fizst questions asked by the plan examiners, to
-- -- --- deternaine need for-a-huilding permit and any�pproval needed in�3istoricDistricts. __ __ __ __
F * d been in.o osition To the project at the previous
hearing. He thought that they had misrepresented the size of the project. The Commission
discussed the differences in pemut requirements for regular districts and Historic Districts.
Commissioner Wolfg�amm questioned what couId be more historic than a child's tree house. He
stated it adds to the city, adds to the character of a chitd's life and is well constructed and
designed. Mr. Wolfgramm stated thaY he is voting a�ainst the resolution. He stated that if they
denied the permit aT the zoning level it would be more appropriate, if the tree house violated the
zoning laws.
Commission Hargans questioned whether tl�eir reason for eitber granting or not granting
approval of the resolution was caused by lack of process or lack of historic compatibility.
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Commissioner Larson stated that he thought that it was a minor structure, and that the
commission's position had not required Yhat a minor structure match the house. However, he
noted that this case was the third case in four months, that was asking for approval after the fact.
Commissioner Larson stated that he wanted people to be notified in some way that perxnits aze
required in the historic district and that he wanted them to apply for the permits before they start
building projects.
Commissioner Wilsey stated that she agreed with Commissioner Larson. However, she would
not have a problem with the structure if it were behind the house and not visible from the street.
Commissioner Bellus stated that there were other reasons to deny or approve the proj ect other
than that they did not follow the process correctly.
Commissioner Wilsey stated that just because the structure was a kid's tree house, approving it
when they had denied other projects that could be seen from the street was not fair.
�ommissioner Hargens stated that the structure was on the cusp of what is considered a building.
The tree house is lazge enough and because they build it off the ground it has the appearance of a
. buildin�.
Commissioner Beilus stated that there were several options available to the Commission at this
point. He stated that the Commission could make a motion to deny the project and have a second
motion for approval subject to certain conditions. Commissioner Bellus stated such as moving it
further into the back yard and away from the lot line. He stated rather than waiting for the
Zoning Board to move it over two feet, the Commission could have them move it over ten feet so
iYasflushwith-thehouse. --__-___ ____ _
Commissioner Larson moved to deny the project, which passed 6-1(Wolfgramm).
Commissioner Lazson moved to approve the project subject to the condition that they move the
structure so the eastem wall is setback at least flush with the house. Commissioner Wilsey
seconded the motion.
Commissioner Hazgens stated he liked this move because it addresses the neighbor's privacy
concems and the tree house will no longer be seen from the front yard.
The motion passed 6-1 (Bellus).
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Deat Amy Spong:
Having zeccived notice of Th�usday night's meeting on Tuesday night, Lve are sorry but �i�e
cannut bc pres�nt. Below is a summary ofthe relevant points I discussed witn you today.
Rte bttih a garage that matchcs ihe house 18 yeats ago and 1i�e obtained HPC approval for an
addition to ouz house 7 years ago, so we are not unfamiliaz with HPC �.tidelines or the process.
6/I S('?) - biscussed with neighbozs (Robin Sydor, Kevin Leuthold, !3c Nancy Gan'ett) our
thoughts ofbitilding a tree house c4: the proposed pl�cement. They raised no
objections.
6/30 Called city for information on building requuemenis,ipermits. Brian �t�as told by a plazl
revieweX that a peznut was not needed as ]ong as fhe sknictiuc was under 120 sq. ft. &
the structure was in the back yard. He was advised to call the HPC liaison to see i�
review w�.s required.
7/6 or Called HPC & tall:ed to Aaran Rubenstein. Brian was told that it did not need to go
7(R through HPC review. We were advised to keep it under 120 sq.f t. & in the back yazd.
2nd wk. Met with neighbors to review plans, including footprint & placement o£ structure in
� of 7uly regard to fence and tree, Also 511owad ihezn color photos from a tTeehouse
construction book that iilustrafed fhe materials & colors in which �i�a planned to fuush
the exterior. They voSced no objections.
3rci �vk. Afrer 3 walls were erzcted, Nancy expressed concern that the sight line from the
tr2�house Li�indows would allo��� children to see into their bedroom, which has a
mirrored wall. \Ve went to tlie tree hoase so that slie could see �a�hat could l� seen & I
— -could understand ker concems. I assured her that the wiudows#acine-their property ---
would be covered in some manner.
7/25 - 8!6 On vacation
lG'k. of 8/28 - Tall:ed H2th Nancy about the idea of a tight-weave privacy pane] that thz iv}� could
grow up, which also wuuld provide privacy frotn the deck area, not just tha windo�vs.
She stated that she thought this was a good idea
9(U3 V�'e stopped at the liunbex yazd (�;�here we had seen the privacy panel) to buy it - it w�s
out of stock. �'Je checked many other lumber yards & they either didn't earry it or it
wa,a out of stock. l�Te had to wait until a new shipment eame In,
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Picked up the privacy panel.
A notice was recaived in the mail box that the building inspector had �2sited & needed
access to tree house.
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9126 Brian caIled th� buitding inspector (John Hegner). He stated'that an "inquiry" l�ad
been receiv�d & could see from the file that we had contACted ihe huilding uvpectiaai
departmeztt earliei. He ecune the same aftemoon. He said that if structuse
u�as imder 100 sq. ft. from "eave to eave," a permit & TIPC approval was not needed
since it �vas not a"pernutable^ structure. His measllrements showed that it was just
under 100 sq R.
9l27 - There was a notc left in the riailbox by Mz. Hegner that a building p�miit � required
& where we S�ould go to apply for one.
9/28 - Brinn went to City Hall to apply for a bu$ding permit, He was told that one was not
needed. He informed the staff that Mr. Hegner had directed him to get one. Tltey
took ihe appl9catiou & the check, & told him that they would noc cash the eheck until
the discrepancy was resolvzd. I�e was directed to John Skradski conceming F�PC
regul'ation. Sohn had just left for lunch. Brian left a massage for 7ohzi to call.
9/29 - Contact �F�th John Sl:rads'ki. l'��e were informed that we were on the agenda for the
101� HPC meeiing. He asked ihat we fax a draN�in� of bsek yard, supporting not more
than 3>% of the yard in structnres (in fact it is 16%), & t� bring Pictures.
9/30
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Notice ofHI'C meeting receiv�d. Backyard dimensions' ��ere faxed to Jolm Skradski.
Another building inspector c�*ne (John ?'?), to tal:a pictures before tlzz I�C meetuig,
hecause 7ohn Hegner had not had time to do so. He also took rough measurements.
I informed him that John Aeo er alrzady had taken fia:rly precise mzasuremevts from
tbe eave lines & said that the shucture was 95 sq. ft. & did not need a permit. Jvhn ??
did not pursue the matter further, saying t6at he u�outd go along with, Hegner's caII on
this. He also cammented #hat he atready had taken pictures fram the aIley & tke tre�
l�ousetvzs barely_visible.— —. — — -- -
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7} The structure does not match their honse. -
2) It "fills the spaoe between the houses."
Onr response (not exgressed at the meeting):
1) The struCture fits u�Yh the a*chitecture of g� house, gara�e, & the home and
garage to the ti�esc.
2} The structure is set welt back into our back }'ard, is barely visible from the sidewa1lc
on tltz souih side of Sum.`nit Ave. and not visible a� from the sidewaLl' on the
north side of Sununit Ave.
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26 October 2000
Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly
1376 Summit Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105-2218
Dear Mr. Engdahl and Mrs. Eberly:
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Suite 300 Fatsimile: 651-266-9099
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SainlPa:il, Mrnneso[a Si102-IS/0
As you know, the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) considered at its October 19, 2000
meeting your application for the `tree house' structure built on your property at 1376 Summit
Avenue. The commission voted to deny your application and then voted again to approve your
app]ication with the condition that the structure be moved behind the main residence. I have enclosed
a copy ofthe commission's resolution stating its findings and decision.
� You have the right to appeal the Commission's decision to the Saint Paul Ciry Council underChapter
73 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code. Such an appeal must be filed within 14 days of receipt of this
]etter. Chapter 73 requires that the following paragraph be included in a1l Ietters indicating denial of a
permit:
(h) Appeal to ciry council. The permit applicant or any party ag�rieved by the decision
of the heritage pzeservation commission shall, within fourteen (14) days of the date of
-- tiie heritage preservation"commission's order an8 decision; have a right to appeal such -
order and decision to the city council. The appeal shalt be deemed perfected upon
receipt by the division of planning of hvo (2) copies of a notice of appeal and statement
setting forth the grounds for the appeal. The division of planning shall transmit one
copy of the notice of appeal and statement to the city council and one copy to the
hexitage preservation commission. The commission, in any written order denying a
permit application, shall advise the applicant of the right to appeal to tbe city council
and include this paragraph in all such orders.
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I spoke with our zoning staff who indicated this structure, in its current location wiThin three feet
of the side properiy line, requires a zoning variance. The HPC based its findings on the historic
district guidelines and not zoning regulations. If you plan to appeal the Commission's decision to
the City Council, the Council would want to know the zoning issue has been resolved. Therefore,
the appeal of tl�e HPC's decision would be delayed until the Board of Zoning Appeals makes their
decision on whether or not to grant the sideyard setback variance. The appeal to City Council still
needs to be filed within 14 days of receipt of this ]etter even thou�h the pub]ic hea*ing would be
delayed until the zoning issue is resolved. Enclosed you tivi11 find a Board of Zonin� Appeals
Application and information about the zoning process.
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Please feel free to call me at 651.266.9078 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Amy Spong
Iiistoric Preservation Specialist
Enclosure
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION 12ESOLIJTION
FILE NUMBER 4078
DATE 26 October 2000
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) is authorized by Chapter 73 of the
Saint Pau] Legislative Code to review permit applications for exterior alterations, new construction or
demolifion on or within designated Heritage Preservation Sites or Heritage Preservation Disfricts; and
«'$EI2EAS, Brian Engdahl and Raina E6erly constructed a`tree house' sYructure on their property at
1376 Summit Avenue, located �vithin the Summit Avenue ��est Heritage Preservation District; and
W$EREAS, the owners, Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly applied for the building permit and HPC
approval after the structure �vas built; and
WHET2EAS, the exisTing structure on the site is the Rush $. �Vheeler House, a rivo and one half story
residence desig�ed by Clarence H. Johnston, Sr. and constructed in 1909; it has stucco walls and a
asphalt-shingled hipped roof; and
WHEREAS, the new structure is located in the rear yard hvo feet from the property fence.on the east;
the one story L-shaped structure is raised approximately seven feet off the ground.on wood posts; the
walls are sided with cedar shin�les ar�d The gabled roof has asphalt-shingles; and
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WHEREAS, the following is the citation in the City's Legislative Code concemin� HPC review of �
building permits for new construction:
Chapter 73, Heri[age Preservation Commission; Section 73.06, Review of permits;
Paragraph (i),Factors to be considered:
Before approving any permit application required under paza�raph (d) of this section to
be approved by the heritage preservation commission, the commission shall make
findings based on Yhe piogiatri For the preservation and arcfiifebturZ control for the —
herita�e preservation site in regard to the following:
{3) In the case of a proposed new building, that such building will not in itself, or
by reason of its location on the site, materially impair the architectural or historic
value of buildings on adjacent sites or in the immediate viciniry within the
historic preservation site.
WHEREAS, relevant portions of the Summit Avenue West District Heritage Preservation District
design review guidelines for neiv construction that per[ain to the new buildin� include the following:
Sea 7437. Netv construction. (a) General Principles: The basic principle for ne�i� construction in the
Summit Avenue West District is Yo maintain the scale and quality of design ofthe disfrict. The Summit
Avenue West District is architecturally diverse �vithin an overall pattern of harmony and continuity.
These guidelines for new construction focus on general rather than specifc design elements in order to
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encourage architectural innovation and quality design while maintaining the hannony and continuity of
the district New construction should be compatible with the size, scale, massing, height, rh}�thm,
setback, color, material, buiidin� elements, site design, and character of surroundin� structures and fhe
area.
(b) Massing and Scale: New construction should conform to the massing, volume, height, facade
proportions and scale of ex'ssting surrounding structures. The scale of the spaces betv✓een buildings and
the rhytlim of buildings to open space should also be carefully considered.
(c) Mnterials and Details: (1) Variety in the use of a�chitectural materials and details adds to the
intimacy and visua] delight of the district. But there is also an overall thread of continuity provided by
the range of materials commonly used along Summit and by the way these materials are used. This
thread of continuity is threatened by the introduction of new industria] materials and the aggressive
exposure of earlier materials such as concrete block, metal fcaming and glass. The materials and details
of new construction shou(d re]ate to the materials and details of existing nearby buildings.
(d) Building Elements: Individuai elements of a building should be integrated into its composition for a
balanced and complete design. These elements of new construction should compliment existing adjacent
structures as well.
• (I) Roofs. There is a great variety of rooi treatments along Summit, but gab]e and hipped roofs are most
common. The skyline or profile of new construction should re]ate to the predominant roof shape of
exisfing nearby buildings.
The recommended pitch for gable roofs is 9:12 (rise-to-run ratio) and in general the minimum
appropriate pitch is 8:12. Highly visible secondary structure roofs should match the roof pitch of the
main structure. A 6:12 pitch may be acceptable in some cases for secondary structures which are not
visible from the street.
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Heritage Preservation Commission, based upon the evidence presented at its
October 19, 2000 public hearing on said permit application, made the fo]]owing findings of fact
concemina the construction of the `tree house' structure:
1. The structure conforms to general guSdelines which encourage architectural innovation and
quality design while maintainin� the harmony and continuity of the d"astrict.
2. The structure's form, materials, roof pitch and sca]e are differentiated from the main residence
yet compatible.
3. The stnicture's location does not take into consideration the scale of the spaces between
buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that based on the above findings, the Heritage Preservation
Commission denies approval of the building permit for the `iree house' in its current location; and
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26 October 2000
BE TT F'Ul2THER RESOLVED, that based on the above findings, the Heritage Preservation
Commission grants approval of the building permit contingent upon moving the structure so that its
eastern �yall is set back to a pIane at least as far advanced from the eastem Iot line as the main residence.
MOVED BY Larson
SECOri'DED BY Wilsey
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AGAINST 1
ABSTAIN 0
Dacisions of the Herifage Preservation Commission are final, subject to appeal to the City Council
within 14 days bp anyone affected by the decision. This resolution does not obviate the need for
meeting applicable building and zoning code requirements, and does not constitute approval for
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Amy Spong
Lowry Professional Building
Suite 300
350 St. Peter Street
St. Paul, MN 55102-1510
Deaz Ms. Spong:
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This is to inform you that we do plan to appeal the heritage preservation commission's decision
concerning the tree house located at 1376 Summit Avenue. We also are working on resolving the
zoning issue, as instructed in your letter that we received on 30 October 2000. Enclosed are a
copy of a notice of appeal and statement of the grounds for the appeal. A second copy is being
sent to Ms. Nancy Anderson, as you instructed, along with a copy ofthe minutes ofthe heritage
preservation commission meeting.
Please call us at 651-690-3724 if we have omitted any necessary information or if you have
questions.
Sincerely,
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Brian En�ahl
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I�TOtice of Appeal and Statement of Crrounds for the Appeal - Structure at 1376 Summit Ave.
� We are appealing the heritage preservation committee's (HPC) decision concerning the "tree
house" located in the backyazd of our home at 1376 Suirimit (the building inspectors infonmed us
that they consider 3t to be a structure built around a tree). We proceeded with this project in
June/July 2000 entirely in good faith and we followed the instructions we were given by City of
St. Paul LIEP offcials.
We contacted LIEP and were told that we did not need a building pernut but were advised to be
sure the neighbors did not objeCt, and to contact the HPC liaison (Aaron Rubenstein at that time)
conceming the need for their review. Mr. Rubenstein told us that we did not need HPC review as
long as it was in the back yard (According to Amy Spong, she spoke with Mr. Rubenstein and
he does not recall what he told us, one way or the other). We discussed the project with the
neighbors at 1374 Suinmit on at least two occasions, showing them drawings of the structure, the
exact proposed placement, and colored photographs of how we planned to finish the exterior,
and they voiced no objections.
In September, when the project was nearly comp]ete, the neighbors at 1374 Siimmit, who
previously had not raised ob}ections, filed a complaint with the HI'C. Tkus became clear to us
only when they were the only neighborhood people who appeared at the HPC meeting to voice
objections. Mr. Hegner, a building inspector came, took measurements, and told us that we did
not need a building permit, but we would need a signed maintenance easement agreement. The
next day, we were le$ a note that we would need to apply for a building permit. When Brian
went to file the application, LTEP staff told him that he did not need a building permit and only
� took the application after he told them that he had been directed to apply for one. He also was
directed to someone in plans review who told him that we would need an easement agreement and
provided hun with a sample copy.
After the FIPC's meeting of 19 Octobez 2000, we then were instructed to apply for a zoning
variance. After consultation with John Hardwick, LIEP zoning stafF, he informed us that either an
easement agzeement or a zoning variance would be acceptable and we are in the process of
pursuing this. At this point we aze not certain that the structure in question is out of compliance
-- - withthe 3-foot setback requirement: The residents at 1374 �vho aze filed the HI'C-- —
complaint, removed the last lmown monument from a site survey we had done in the about 1983,
prior to having our garage built. Initial drawings submitted to HI'C and LIEP were based on our
recollection that our lot is 40 ft. wide. In the process of collecting infornaation to complete the
zoning variance application, we found that our lot may in fact be 41 ft. wide, based on the width
on which we aze assessed for tases foz sidewalk maintenance, etc. by the City of St. Pau1. 7ohn
Hardwick found nothing in our property's file that would definitively set our property boundaries.
Amy Spong found a gazage building permit application that cited a 40 $. wide lot, but no copy of
the property survey, based on an application subznitted by the property owners. We plan to
pursue the issue of an in detemiinaxrt property line by requesting that the owners of 1374 Si.�tumit
restore the survey monument mazker that they removed.
We further feel that the HPC's decision to grant approval contingent upon moving the structure
is unfeasible, given that the tree house is built around a tree and partially is anchored to two trees.
We fiuther find the HPC's comment that "the structure's location does not take into consideration
the scale of the spaces between buildings and the rhythm of buildings to open space" to be vague
� and open to subjective judgement. The structure is visible, in any part, for a distance of about 30
ft. from the front sidewalk, and primarily visible (i.e., the main structure - not just a glimpse of
eaue or deck) from only 10-I S ft. If the issue is one of visibility from the street, we believe that
means other than moving the structure could be taken to block the view.
In reviewing the HPC's charter, we notice that it is an advisory body, with authority to review
and approve/deny applications for buitding pernuts. Given that we were told by LIEP, on three
occasions, that this structure did not need a building pernut, a decision tt�at later was "reversed"
by the HPC, we aze left wondering if the applicaYion for a building permit was required solely to
provide the HPC with authority to review this project. If this is the case, we should have beer_
informed when we made the initiat inquiry.
Throughout this process we have been told three times that we did not need a building pemrit
and then had HPC instruct us otherwise, were toid we did not need HPC review (and later were
toid othercvise in response to a neighbor complaint), were told twice by LIEP stafF that we
needed an easement agreement and later told by HPC that we need a zoning variance, and had
one seY of neighbors reverse themselves on an agreement Yhat they had an opportunity to review
on at least two occasions. We have dealt with three different persons in the position of HPC
liaison. At this point, it appears tt�at we may need to pay $180 for an application for a zoning
vaziance for a structure for wluch we uutially were told we didn't even need a pernut and which
had the approval ofthe most affected neighbors (however, Mr. Hardwick assured me that we
would not be charged the additionat penalty of $225 for filing a zoning variance application for
building a structure wzThout a bnilding permit). We feel the City has some responsibility in the
current situation, given the number of times that we have been given either the wrong information
or the city officials reversed themselves on information that we had been given. Unfortunately,
when a citizen calls a city official for information or guidelines, apparently there is no record kept
by that official of what the citizen was advised ar told. When Mr. Hazdwick was asked about his
opinion about how a the issue of a child's tree house had escalated into such a"nightmaze," he
responded (paraphrasing), "this is not a situation that occurs often (a tree house), the buiiding
code is vague in this regard, and thus it is open to various interpretations".
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In ciosing, we would like to ask that the City Council back its city officials in their initial
interpretations of the building code and HPC guidelines. We also would like to put on record that
- — - all ofth�people with whomwe �ave deaitfromthe Lf�P have beenTesponsive to oisquestions —
and have treated us in a respectfiil, decent inaimer, in spite of providing conflicting informazion,
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have done the best they cou18 in this di�cult "grey" area.
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS RESOLUTION
ZONING FILE NiTMBER: Ol - 180961
DATE: March 26, 2001
WHEREAS, Brian Engdahi & Raina Eberly has applied for a variance from the strict application
of the provisions of Section 62.1Q6 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code pertainin� to the
construction of a tree house/play house structure in the rear yard in the R-2 zoning district at
1376 Summit Avenue; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Board of Zoning Appeals conducted a public hearing on March 26,
2001 pursuant to said application in accordance with the requirements of Section 64.203 of the
Legislative Code; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paui Board of Zoning Appeals based upon evidence presented at the
public hearing, as substantially reflected in the minutes, made the following findings of fact:
1. The property in question cannot be put to a reasonable use under the strict provisionns of the
code.
. The applicants appear to have followed all of the proper procedures priar to constructing the
tree house/play house. They checked on the permit requirements as well as the HPC
requirements and were given misleading information. They also discussed the project with
their neighbors and were given no indication that there would be any objections to the
psoposed structure. It is clear that there has been some confusion in LIEP over issues such as
this in a heritage preservation dish In August of 2000, the HPC staffperson at that time
sent a memo to various staff in LIEP, the City Attorney and the Executive Committee of the
HPC, in an effort to clarify exactly what types of work require a building permit and HPC
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approval. That memorandum clearly stated that a sfied of any size required a permit an�
HPC approval. However, it also left open for discussion if play equipment should be
included in the list of things that should require a permit and HPC approval. In November of
2000, the City Building Official drafted a clear written policy stating that any exterior
construction or alteration within a designated herita�e preservation district, other than
painting ar landscaping, requires a permit and HPC review. Unfortunately, this clarification
came too late to help the applicants.
The applicants wanted to construct a small, 10 foot by 10 foot tree house/play house for their
daughter in the rear yard. Play equipment for children is a xeasonable use for residential
property, whether it is the kind of equipment you can purchase with slides, swings, platforms
etc., or a custom built tree house/play house such as the applicants have constructed. The
only tree in their yard that would serve this purpose is located close to the eastem property
line. The play house, after incorporating the tree within the structure, ended up 1.24 feet
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away from the east property line. For zoning purposes, an accessory stracYure, requires a 3-
foot side yard setback when located in a rear yard. The applicants could not incorporate the
tree within the structure and still meet the required 3 foot setback.
2. The plight of tlze Zand owner is due to circun�stances unique to this property, and these
circumstances were not created by the land owner.
The location of the tree in the applicanfs' yard as well as the lack of a clear, written policy
concerning these type of structures at the time the tree house/play house was built, are
circumstances that were not created by the app2icants.
3. The proposed variance is in keeping with the spirit and intent of the code, and is consistent
wizh the health, safety, comfort, morals and welfare of the inhabitants of the Ciry of St. Paul.
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The desire to provide a tree house/play house for their daughter is a reasonabPe request. The
structure is approximately 10 feet by 10 feet. There are two small decks attached to the
structure which increase the size to about 12 feet by 12 feet. This is not an excessive size
regardless if it is considered a play house, play equipment or an accessory structure.
Accessory sfixctures, and/or play equipment, when located in a rear yazd are permitted uses
in residential districts. The relatively minor 20 inch variance, required because of the
location of the tree on the lot, is in keeping with the spirit and inTent of the code. •
4. The proposed variance wi11 not impair an adequate szepply of Zight and air to adjacent
property, nor will it alter the essential character of the surrounding area or unreasonably
diminish establisherl property values within tlze sur area.
The neighborin� property owner at 1374 Summit Avenue has expressed concem that the tree
-- - house will aitow the applicants' daughter and her friends to look into the rear windows of
their house. However, moving the structure 20 inches further away from the property line
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Preservation Association (SARPA) has submitted a letter in opposition to this variance
request statin� that the size, scale, materials, windows, doors, color, setback, and character of
the playhouse are incompatible with sunounding structures in the neighborhood. This is in
direct conflict with the findings ofthe HPC which found that the structure's form, materials
and scale, while differenY from the main residence, are compatible. The letter fram SARPA
further states that the entire width of the play house can be seen from Summit Avenue
disrupting the rhythm of buildings to open space. This statement is in agreement with the
findings of the HPC. However, when staff visited the site, only a portion of the tree
house/play house was visible from the streef and then onIy when directly in front of the
house. It was not visible from the alley due to the 6-foot obscuring fence sunoundin� the
rear yard of the property. 5taff considered recommending that the existing obscuring fence
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be raised across from the tree house/play house or that a new barrier attached directly to the
eastem side of the play house be constructed, in order to address the concems of the
neighbor. However, since the style and design of the tree house/play house has been
approved by the HPC, staff is reluctant to recommend any changes to the structure. We have
received 4letters of support for this request from the property owners of 1367 Grand Avenue,
across the alley from this property, 1382 Summit, 1390 Summit and 1364 Summit, who all
felt that the tree house/play house was exceptionally well built and was an asset to the
neighborhood .
When visiting the site, staff noticed that the neighboring property at 1374 Summit Avenue
has a shed that encroaches onto the applicants' property. Staff could find no permit for this
shed ar any ir�dication that it was ever approved by the HPC. The relatively minor 20 inch
setback variance requesfed will not significantly affect the supply of light or air to the
adjacent property nar given the existence of other noncomplying accessory structures in the
immediate area, will it aiter the character or the neighborhood.
5. The variance, ifgranted, would not permit any use that is not permitted under the provisions
of the cocie for the property in the district where the affected land is located, nor would it
alter or change the zoning c�istrict classifzcation of the property.
. Accessory structures and/or play equipment aze permitted in all zoning districts. The
proposed variance, if granted, will not change or alter the zoning classification of the
property.
6. The request for variance is not based pYimariZy on a desire to zncrease the value or income
potential of the parcel of land.
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NOW, TAEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Saint Paul Board of Zoning Appeals that the
provisions of Section 62.106 are hereby waived to allow a side yard setback of 1.24 feet; subject
to the condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate building and electrical permits for the
project. In order to construct a tree house/play house structure in the rear yard on property
located at 1376 Summit Avenue; and legally described as Wann's Additon To St. Paul Ex Ave
Lot 9 Blk 1; in accordance with the application for variance and the site plan on file with the
Zoning Administrator.
MOVED BY : Galles
SECONDED BY: 1v�orton
IN FA�OR: �
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AGAINST: o
MAILED: March 27, 2001
TIME LIMIT: No order of the Board of Zoning Appeals permitting the erection or
alterafion of a building or off-street parking facility shall be valid for a
period longer than one year, unless a building permit for such erection or
alteration is obtained within such period and such erection or alteration is
proceeding pursuant to the terms of such permit. The Board of Zoning
Appeals or the City Council may grant an extension nof fo exceed one year.
In granting such extension, the Board of Zoning Appeals may decide to hold
a public hearing.
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APPEAL: Decisions of the Board of Zoning Appeats are finai subject to appeal to the
City Council within 15 days by anyone affected by the decision. Building
permits shall not be issued after an appeal has been filed. If perauts have
been issued before an appeal has been filed, fhen the perraits are suspended
and construction sha11 cease until tLe City Council has made a final
determination of the appeal. .
CERTIFICATI01��: I, the undersigned Secretarq to the Board of Zoning Appeats for the City of
Saint Paul, DZinnesota, do hereby certify that I have compared the foregoing
copy with the orib nal record in my office; and find the same to be a true and
correct copy of said original and of the whole thereof, as based on approved
minutes of the Sa4nt Paul Board of Zoning Appeais meetiag held on
March 26, 2001 and on record in the Office of License Inspection and
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EnvironrrienfalProtection, 3�0 Sf. Peter Stree�, SaintYaul, Minnesota.
SAINT PAUL BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
Debbie Crippen
Secretary to the Board
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 330 CITY HALL
ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA, MARCH 26, 2001
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• PRESBNT: Mmes. Maddox, and Morton; Messis. Duckstad, Faricy, Gailes, Kleindl, and Wilson of
the Board of Zoning Appeals; Mr. Warner, Assistant City Attorney; Mr. Hardwick and
Ms. Crippen of the Office of License, Inspection, and Environmental Protection.
ABSENT: Vince Courtney *
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The meeting was chaired by 7oyce Maddox, Chair.
Brian Enadahl & Raina Eberlv (lt01-180961) 1376 Summit Avenue: A side yard setback
variance in order to construct a play house/tree house structure in the rear yard. A setback of 3 feet is
required and a setback of 1.24 feetis proposed, for a variance of 1.76 feet.
The applicant was present. There was opposition present at the hearing.
Mr. Hardwick showed slides of the site and reviewed the staff report with a recommendation for
appioval, subject to the condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate building and electrical
permits for the project.
One letter was received in opposition to the variance request from SARPA (Summit Avenue Residential
Preservation Association).
Five neighbors sent letters in support of the variance: 1367 Grand Avenue, 1382 Summit Avenue, 1390
Summit Avenue, 1364 Summit Avenue, and 1396 Summit Avenue.
No correspondence was received regarding the variance from District 14.
Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly, 1376 Summit Avenue. Ms. fiberly submitted an additional letter in
support of the variance and addifional photos of the backyard and tree house/play house. She staeed
that they built the tree house in the spring not in the fall as stated in the staff report. Ms. Bberly stated
---that the tree house could be-seen for 15-feet while walking-onxhe-front sidewalk. _-
Mr. Engdahl stated that they had always tried to cooperate with the neighbors and the Heritage
Commission during their 20 years of living in their home on Summit.
Laura Kochevar, 1390 Summit Avenue, stated that she lives two doors down from the tree house and
has a full view of it from her yard. She stated that when walking, biking, or driving on Summit
Avenue the tree house is not noticeable. Ms. Kochevar stated that they love the tree house and would
like to see it stay.
Robin Cider, 1374 Summit Avenue - Unit l, stated that she opposed the granting of the setback
variance to construct the tree house. She stated that there was a tree directly behind the house that
could be used for the tree house that would not encroach on the property line. Ms. Cider stated that
plans for tree house/play house plans considered a six foot by six foot structure large and the applicant
chose to build a very large ten foot by ten foot tree house/play house. She stated that the plans shown
to the neighbors did not reflect the final structure. Ms. Cider stated that the tree house was much
larger in width and height. The play houseltree house became a two-srory structure on the fence line
with windows, glass doors and electriciry.
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Ms. Cider submitted photos of children in the tree house hanging off the safety railing and falIing to the �
ground into her yard. She sTated concerns abouT the liabiliTy issues regarding the children falling into
her yard and injuring themselves. Ms. Cider stated that they have noise, light and privacy
encroachments not supported by the proposed variance. She stated that the tree house blocks one third
of the air flow and light from their property on the west and significantly altexs the essential character
of the surronnding area. Ms. Cider stated that the tree house/play house violaYes The HisToric --
Preservation District Guidelines and HPC (Heritage Preservation Commission) has denied a variance
for this properry. She stated that the SARPA also supports the recommendation of the HPC to deny.
Ms. Cider stated that the FTPC resolved to approve the structure provided they move it in line with the
principle structure on the property. She stated that the neighbors support the decision eo deny the
structure in the present location. Ms. Cider stated that the HPC judgement regarding the visual
encroachment of Summit Avenue would take precedence due to the unique nature of the historic street.
She stated that the structure reduces the historic value of the neighboring properties and has disturbed
the neighborhood.
Nancy Garrett, 1374 Summit Avenue, stated that they thought that the variance request failed to meet
four of the six requirements of the Ciry Zoning Code. She stated that there was no reason that the tree
house/play house had to be placed on the property line when there is another tree in the cenier of the
yard. Ms, Garrett sta[ed that there were no unique circumstances related to the properry. Ms. Garrett
stated that the side yard setback Zoning Code is in piace to protect neighbors from issues such as light
pollution, noise pollution, and liability from neighbors actions and these are all concerns heze. She
stated that twice this spring she had seen kids climbing over the safery railing and hanging over her
yard. Ms. Garrett stated that on March 10, 2001 two kids had jumped into their yard and had they
been injured, she could be held accountable. She stated that the structure acts as a 15-foot fence .
blocking several hours of direct sunIight from her yard. Ms. Garrett stated that there are many doors
and windows facing her home causing a lack of privacy. She stated that the glass doors are placed
directly over her front yard and the kids constantly bang the doors. Ms. Garrett stated that her
bedroom is about 15 feet from the entry to the tree house. She stated that the electricity is an issue
because when the lights are on in the tree house, it also lights up her bedroom even with the blinds
closed. Ms. Ganett stated that there is also a built-in bed, with kids sleeping in the tree house there is
--- the potential for her sleep-to bedtsturbed: She stated-that during the building process they disttxbed -- - --
her sleep because they were working on the tree house after 9:00 p.m. Ms. Garrett stated that moving
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from the other buildings and landscaping. She requested that ttte Board uphold the law and deny the
variance request Ms. Garrett stated that they had tried ofren to commnnicate their concerns during the
building process, but thought that their concerns had not been listened to.
Ms. Eberly, stated that they did not have rnany ckoices for the tree house/play house. She stated that
the tree behind the house was over the back sidewalk, and the tree further back in the yard has a pond
below it so it was not a good choice. Ms. Eberly stated that the two trees, the tree house/play house is
attached to is a better choice giving the tree house more stabiliry than a single tree would. She stated
- that because fhe doots they had found were bigger than they,wan[ed it_became necessary to allow more
room for the door to open. Ms. Eberly stated that they made the tree house/play house smaller and the
deck larger because of the trouble with the door.
Heating no further testimony, Ms. Maddox ctosed the public portion of the meeting.
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� Mr. Galles moved to approve the variance and resolution based on findings 1 through 6, subject to the
condition that the applicants obtain the appropriate buiiding and electrical permits for the project.
Ms. Morton seconded the motion, which passed on a roll call vote of 7-0.
Submitted by:
7ohn Hardwick
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Approved by:
Jpn Duckstad, Secretary
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Brian Engdahl & Raina Eberly
i 1376 Summit Ave.
St. Paul, MN 55105
May 8, 2001
7ohn Hardwick, LIEP
350 St. Peter St., Suite 300
St. Paul, MN 55102-1510
Dear Mr. Hazdwick:
As mentioned in the telephone message, we have reached a compromise with our neighbor,
Robin Sydor, on the tree house. The revision essentially would turn the deck on the east side into
a covered porch. The view from the north (Suinmit Ave.) would not change much. Enclosed are
sketches of the cunent view from the east and the proposed view. We have agreed to do this if it
is approved by the City.
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
The Saint Paul City Council will conduct a public hearing on Wednesday, May 23,
2001, at 5:30 p.m., City Council Chambers, 3rd Floor City Ha11, to consider the
appeal of Brian Engdahl and Raina Eberly of a Heritage Preservation Commission
(HPC) decision approving a building permit for construction of a tree house
(constructed without a building permit or HPC approval) with the condition
that the tree house be moved so that its eastern wall is set back to a plane at least as
far advanced from the eastern lot line as the main residence at 1376 Summit
Avenue.
Dated: May 3, 2001
Nancy Anderson
Assistant City Council Secretary