269875 WHITE — CITV CLERK COUflCll ��98`�5
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CANARV — DEPARTMENT GITY OF SAINT PAUL
BLUE — MAVOR File NO.
ouncil Resolution
Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
WHEREAS, A petition requesting a referendum on Council File No.
269169 - Ordinance No. 16319, entitled "An Ordinance amending
Section 308.23 of the St. Paul Legislative Code pertaining to regu-
lations prohibiting certain sexual conduct in premises licensed to
sell intoxicating liquor" has been filed with the City Clerk, a
copy of which petition is attached hereto; and
WHEREAS, A petition for a referendum requires signatures of `
registered voters equal in number to eight percent of thos�,rwho
voted for the office of Mayor in the last election; and 70, 305 votes `
were cast for the office of Mayor in the last ele�tion, eight per- '
cent of which number is 5,624 votes; and
WHEREAS, The office of the City Clerk Bureau of Elections, has
checked the 6,657 signatures on the petition against the signatures
on registration cards in the Bureau of Elections and rejected #�y-6��g►-
signatures for the reasons given in the attached report; and �
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WHEREAS, The Bureau of Elections has found that only �-.-��, "�
signatures were those of persons who were residents of 5aint Paul
and registered to vote at the address given on the petition; now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the Council of the City of Saint Paul, having ;#:
reviewed the report of the office of the City Clerk, hereby deter�
mines that the foregoing petition is insufficient under Chapt�r; 8 _°-r . �.;:, -
of the City Charter and directs the City Clerk to return a �copy of
the petition to the person or persons from whom it was received,
together with a written statement of its defects.
COUNCILI�EN
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Received of City Clerk's Office a copy of petition for referandwm filed
against Council File No. 269169 - Ordinance No. 16319 entitled, "An
Ordinance amending Section 308.23 of the St. Paul Legislative Code
pertaining to regulation prohibiting certain sexual condnat in premisis
licen�ed to s�ll intoxica.ting liquor". I agree that receipt of a eapy
of the petition at this time satisfies the requirement of the Chaxter
that directs the City Clerk to deli`ver a capy of the petition to the
petitioners a�`ter it is declared sufficient or insuf`Picient by the City
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Rose Mix ����.�� Walter A. Bell
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OPfICE OP THE CITY CLlRK
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
EUREAU OF ELECTIONS
33 City Hall
St.Paul,Minnesota SS102
To the Members of the City Council
A petition for a referendum on Council File No. 269169 - Ordinance
No. 16319 entitled "An Ordinance amendin� Section 308.23 of the St.
Paul Legislative Code pertaining to regulations prohibiting certain
sexual conduct in premises licensed to sell intoxicating liquor" has
been checked by this office.
The petition consisted of 296 pages wit.h 6,657 names. Of these, the
following were rejected for the reason given;
55 names rejected - duplicate signature
33 �� " - signature appears si�ned by someone else
155 " " - no address given
20 " " - si�nature of woman using husband� s first name
2687 " " - not registered at address given
1527 " " - outside city or printed signature
208 " " - identification of signa.ture with initials not
sure
�+ " " - petitioner witnessed own signature
�bS� total re�ected
We found that 1,968 na.mes were valid registered voters . 70,305 votes
were cast for Mayor at the last City Election with 8� totaling 5,624.
V�ry truly yours,
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Rose Mix
City Clerk
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THOMSON, NORDBY & PETERSON
LAWYERS
JACK 5. NORDBY
. MINNEAPOLIS OFFICE
(6�2) 339-8646 �
SUITE 1530 �
FIFTY-FIVE EAST FIFTM STREET
SAINT PAUL, MiNNESOTA 55101
(6i2) 227-0856
October
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1 9 7 7
TO: MEMBERS OF THE ST. PAUL CITY COUNCIL:
On behalf of the petitioners in support of a referendum
on Section 308. 23 of the Legislative Code, I respectfully request
the Council to take the following action:
I. Disapprove the City Clerk' s determination as to
certain signatures for the following reasons, on the grounds that
there is no authority for disallowing signatures for those reasons:
A. Signatures which appear to be signed by someone
else.
B. Signatures of women using husband' s first name.
C. Printed signatures.
D. Signatures using initials.
IS. As to signatures by persons "not registered at address
given" , to direct the City Clerk to check these signatures in the
alphabetical voter files to determine if the persons signing are
registered at some other address and of those who are to approve
the signatures.
III. To direct the City Clerk to take action as above
outlined both as to signatures on the petitions already filed and
as to signatures upon any petitions which may be £iled hereafter
in this matter. Names of any persons appearing on the petitions
at whatever address should be approved if those persons appear in
any file of the Bureau of Elections as registered voters.
IV. To place the amendr.lent to Ordinance 308.23 upon the
ballot in the next election at the Council's own option.
Respect.ful y submittedr
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OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY
October 6, 1977 HARRIET LANSING
Saint Pau1 City Council
City Hall
Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
Re: Referendum on Section 308.23 of the Legislative Code
rlembers of the Council:
This letter is in response to Mr. Jack Nordby' s letter of
October 4, and based upon a meeting between Mr. Nordby and
our office. Mr. Nordby urges that the Council disapprove
the following five bases which the Office of the City Clerk
used to reject signatures on the petition:
A. Signatures which appear to be signed by someone else;
B. Signatures of women using their husband' s first name or
initials;
C. Printed signatures;
D. Signatures using initials where identity of voter cannot
be reasonably ascertained; and
E, Signatures of persons who are not registered at the
address given.
The rationale for these categories shall be discussed in the
order given above.
A. Signatures appear to be signed by someone e1se.
There were thirty-three (3) signatures rejected for this reason.
Where there was any doubt about a signature, it was resolved
City Hall, Saint Paul, Minnesota 55102
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in favor of the validity of the signature. We are confident
that the Election Bureau exercised good judgment in rejecting
names for this reason. If Council members have any concern about
this category, the Election Bureau has available for inspection
today a xerox copy of the voter registration cards of the per-
sons who did not appear �to sign the petition themselves. With-
ou.t this basis for rejection, people could go through the phone
book and write others' names and addresses.
B. Women using husband' s first name or initials.
Signatures of women using their husband' s name, as in "Mrs.
John Jones" have historically been rejected from petitions upon
the advice of this office on the basis that they were not sign-
ing their le al name. However, we recognize that the Charter �
does not necessarily require "legal" names and that many women
are known socially by their husbands' names. Moreover, in order
to be consistent with the acceptance of signatures where ini-
tials are used if the identity can be ascertained, we have de-
termined that these signatures should be accepted if it can be
ascertained that the women are registered voters. At our di-
rection, the Election Bureau has rechecked the 20 signatures in
this category. Four of the addresses were found to be outside
the city, and three of the names were not at the address given.
However, thirteen names appeared to correspond with registered
voters, and this number should be added to the total of valid
signatures.
C. Printed signatures.
There were approximately one dozen of these signatures. In all
cases the Election Bureau did pull the voter registration card
and compare signatures. If the signatures appeared similar, the
signature was considered valid even though printing was used.
This is only reasonable since, to ensure against fraud there must
be a means of ascertaining the identity of the person signing the
pztition. The only practical means is comparison with voter
, registration cards.
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October 6, 1977
D. Signatures using initials. �-
Two hundred and eight signatures were rejected where initials
were used. However, in all cases where identity of th� individua].
could be ascertained, the signature was considered valid. Thus,
if the initial was the first letter of the name of the registered
voter and the last name and address matched up and the writing
appeared similar, these names �were counted valid. A large num-
ber of signatures in this group were rejected because na one by
that name was registered at that address. Thus, it was not the
use of the initials which caused the rejection of the signatures.
E. Not registered at address given.
The City Clerk and Election Bureau, upon the advice of this �
office, have rejected signatures on petitions where, upon a check
of the ward-precinct file, no person by the name sought is reg-
istered at the address given. We continue to find that this is
a valid position. It is possible that some of the 2,687 persons
whose signatures were rejected in this category may have been
previously registered at another address within the city. Thus,
their names might be in the alphabetical file in the Election
Bureau and their signatures on file at other addresses. However,
- it is our position that these persons are no longer "registered.
' voters. " The Charter requires signatures of registered voters.
Pursuant to Minn. Stat. � 201.061, one may only register to vote
in the precinct in which one lives. Moreover, pursuant to Minn.
Stat. S 201.071, upon receipt of a new registration indicating
a change of address, the cld registration card is cancelled. In
addition to the technical legal argument, policy considerations
militate in favor of rejecting these signatures. Some of the
reasons for requiring signatures of registered voters are ease
of identification of the person signing and prevention of fraud.
Only if both the signature and address match up can it be ascer-
tained whether or not the person whose name appears on the peti-
tion actually signed it and whether that person lives within the
City of Saint Paul. Even if the Election Bureau were to go to
the alphabetical file, they probably could not ascertain iden-
tity without the same address. Moreover, in many cases, the
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October 6, 1977
signatures on the petition are so difficult to read that it could
not be determined what name to look up in the alphabetical file.
Conclusion.
Due to the legal and policy considerations stated above, we rec-
ommend that the Council accept the report of the City Clerk with
the amendment of twenty signatures as indicated above and make
a finding that the petition is insufficient. Revising the
figures in the original report of the City Clerk with the figures
_ ______ discussed in (B) above results in the following:
55 names rejected - duplicate signature
33 names rejected - signature appears signed by someone
else� �
155 names rejected - no address
2,690 names rejected - not registered at address
1, 531 names rejected - outside city or printed signature.
208 names rejected - identification of signature with ini-
tials not sure
4 names rejected - petitioner witnessed own signature
4,676 Total Rejected.
The above computation results in 1, 981 valid signatures, which
is 3,643 short of the number required for a valid petition. �
Res ectfully submitted,
,
'HARRIET LANSING
City Attorney
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BERYL A. NORD
Assistant City Attorney
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cc:Jack S. Nordby, Attorney at Law
Rose Mix, City Clerk
Walter Bell, Election Bureau