269040 WH17E - CITV CI.ERK COUIICll ��
PINK - FINANCE GIT OF SAINT PALTL � �
CANARV - DEPARTMENT
BLU E �t- M�R � File N O.
cil,Resolution
Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Council of the City of Saint Paul
hereby ratifies and approves the action of the City of Saint Pau1
Board of Appeals and Review pertaining to the following listed prop-
erty and as shown by the Excerpted Minutes of said Board of Appeals
and Review, dated April 12, 1977, and marked EXHIBIT A, and attached
hereto and made a part hereof by reference: � �
DATE OF BOARD
MINUTES CASE N0. PROPERTY APPELLANT
4/12/77 09-77-H 234 - 238 Bates Robert J. Foley
(16 units)
BOARD ACTION: Granted Waivers of Saint Pau1 Legislative Code require-
ments pertaining to venting of bathroom fixtures and
pressure of water service until such time as the prop-
erty might be sold or any other right, title or interest
be transferred, on condition that all other items
designated in 2/7/77 Survey Letter be completed on a
time schedule specified by the Board and in a manner
approved by the Saint Paul Housing and Building Code
Enforcement Division.
Property Description: Wilder & Dodge ' s Subd. of B1k. 48, Lyman
Dayton' s Addn. , Lots 11 and 12, B1ock 2.
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COUNCILMEN
Yeas Nays Requested by Department of:
Butler In Favor
Hozza
Hunt
Levine _ Against BY
Roedler
Sylvester
Tedesco
Form Approved by City Attorney
Adopted by Council: Date
Certified Passed by Council Secretary BY
By
Approved by 1Hayor: Date Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
BY . BY
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� DATE OF BOARD
MINUTES CASE N0. PROPERTY APPELLANT
4/12/77 10-77-H 1907 Feronia Anton A. Wicklander
(six units)
BOARD ACTION: Granted Waiver of Saint Paul Legislative Code pro-
visions pertaining to basement occupancies, on
condition that window area be enlarged and made
accessible for use as emergency exi�s , in Apts. ##5
and #k6, and that mechanical ventilation be installed
in bathroom not presently so equipped.
Property Description: Hunkel' s Second Amendment to Union Park,
Lots N and 0.
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4/12/77 13-77-H 668-674 E. Fourth St. Clarence A. Lindeke
(13 units)
BOARD ACTION: Granted Waivers of Saint Paul Legislative Code,
Section 54.11 (b) and Section 54.11 (a) , pertaining
to location of lavatory in same room with water closet,
and prohibition of shared bathrooms, respectively,
Property Description: Lyman Dayton' s Addition, Lots 22 and 23,
Block 32.
4/12/77 16-77-H 1857 Carroll Niels B. Fruhst�ck
(four units)
BOARD ACTION: Granted Waiver of Saint Paul Legislative Code provi-
sion pertaining to basement occupancies, with reference
to basement sleeping room unit, on condition that
Appellant' s plans, to be submitted in writing, meet
the approval of' the Saint Paul Housing Code Enforcement
Division.
Property Description: Merriam Park, Ex. N. 41.5 ft. , Lots 11 and 12,
Block 13.
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WH17E - CITV CLERK COI1flC11 /�f�I���
BLUE �- MI.�R E GITY OF SAINT PAITL File NO.
CANARV - DEPARTMENT ��Aa{ �
Council Resolution
Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
DATE OF BOARD
MINUTES CASE N0. PROPERTY APPELLANT
4/12/77 17-77-H 1844 Grand Avenue Edward E. D'Heilly,
(five units) on behalf of Vida D'Hei11y
BOARD ACTION: Granted Waiver of Saint Paul Legislative Code require-
ments pertaining to basement occupancies, with reference
to Apt. ##5, provided all other violations, as designated
in Survey Letter of 3/21/77, are corrected.
Property Description: Rosedale Park, Ex. a11ey, Lot 1, Block 4.
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4/12/77 18-77-H 1554 Fulham Robert and Karen Hoy1e
(proposed duplex
construction)
BOARD ACTION: Granted Waiver of Saint Paul Legislative Code require-
ments pertaining to basement occupancies, with reference
to building plans for future construction of duplex, on
condition that each room in proposed basement level
apartment be provided with one window of sufficient
size to comply with lighting and ventilation specifi-
cations of the Housing and Building Code for basement
occupancies.
Property Description: St. Anthony Park North, Lot 23, Block 7.
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and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, That the City Clerk is hereby authorized and
directed to transmit a copy of this resolution for recording to the
Ramsey County Office of the Register of Deeds.
COUNCILMEN
Yeas Nays Requested by Department of:
Butler
� In Favor
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Levine _ Against BY
Roedler
Sylvester
T � NlAY t � �
Form Approved by City Attorney
Ado by Council: Date •
d Pa y Cou �1 Sec;etar BY
By
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Appr v d by Mayor: Dat MAY 12 197.7. Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
By BY
QuB�isH€� MA� 21 �
EXI�flI3 � T A
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CASE N0. PROPERTY APPELLAVT� ��n��O
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09- 77-H 234-238 Bates Robert J. Foley
(16 units)
SUBJECT: ' �
ReQuest Waiver of St. Paul Legislative Code req_uirements pertaining to
certain plumbing deficiencies , as designated in Survey Lett�r af 2/?/77,.
so as to obtain Certificate of Occupancy, because of financial hardship.
APPEARA:'�I'CE: .
Robert J. Foley
' PROCEEDINGS:
l�ir. Foley related to the Board an account of the extensive work he had
done on h.is apartment building since his previous anpeal in 1975, at -
which time he had been allowed to retain the 8 first floor apartments
sharing four baths, but had been directed to convert 16 apartments an
the second and third floors to eigh.t. Si:nce that time , the city- fiad
made another more detailed inspection and had found a11 the batFiroom
plumbing inadequately vented and tlie water service in need of upgradin�. _ _
He said there were other items found in violation of code, but these
were not major. However, he hesitated to spend th.e money to repair them
if he was going to be required to tear out alI the b athrooms and install
new water service as well, because the cost of these two items were
beyond his means , making ownership of the building unfeasible .
� Chairman i�tozniak remarked that Mr. Foley had exper�.enced a difficult
situation; being told i� 1973 by city inspectors that there were only
six itiems needing correction; but after inspection in 1976, � the number
of violations had increased to 13S items, most of which must have been
present at the time of the original inspection. Had he known. of them
at the time of his appeal in 1975, he might not have undertaken the
expensive project of converting the building fram 24 apartments to 16,
and might have instead given up his interest in the building. Chairman
. �Yozniak asked Mr. Foley how much time he would need ta complete work
required by the letter of 2/7/77.
Mr. Foley responded that it was not time he needed as much as money.
He was unable to obtain further loans because of the large amount he
owed already on loans outstanding. He asked that the venting requi.re-
ments on the I6 b athrooms be waived, as well as the installa�ion af a
new water service . If these could be waived, he fe3t he coul d manage
to complete all other items , but could not proceed ti,rith the lesser items
witFiout suc�i a waive r. �
Mr. Staffenson pointed out the urgency of repairs on rustinu soilstacks
and tfi.e need for correction of siphoning in some plumbing i:.stallations .
He also empFiasized tFie need for providing easier exit from first floor
windows as a means of egress in a fire emergency.
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BOARD ACTION: '
Chairman titi'ozniak moved that a 90-day Extension of Time be granted for
tlie con�pletion of Items �'o . 1 through I1 as listed on the 2�7/77 Survey
Letter. If city inspectors find the lI items not completed, A�pellant
shall be requested to appear before the Boarc� witfi an explanation. If
the inspectors find the �,rork completed, a further 90-day Extension of
Time is granted to proceed ti��ith the remaining items , except far the
venting of plumbing and installation of a ne��r water service, t��hich iterris
shall be waived for the period of Appellant ' s oi�rnershin if satisfactory
progress is reported at the end of the sec�nd 90-day time extension .
: Appellant shall be scheduled for hearing before the Board and be nrepared �
to advise the Board of his rehabilitation plans for items not completed
at that time . h1r. Glassman seconded. hiC3`TION CARRIED AND Sa ORDEREB.
THE VOTE:
Ayes - 5 Nayes - 4 - Abstentions - Q
(l�ir. Heider Fiad arrived during the first few minutes of the hearina on
tfiis case . ) .
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i�1INUTES OF THE I��ETI�rG
ST. P�1UL BOARD OF ?,PPEALS � REVIE�ti'
Tuesday, April IZ , I977
City Council Committee Raom 7Q7
City Hall and Court House
1 : 30 n.m.
�IEAiBERS PRESENT: D. Donald titi'ozniak, Cfi.airman
_ Arthur l�i. Tieso
Estyr Bradle� Peake
Ronald Glassman
David Heider
�1EI�IBER ABSENT: James Voi,gt
.4GENCIES PRE.SENT: Department of Community �ervices - Division of
of Iiousing and Bui.lding Code Enforcement:
Prank Staffenson, �upervisor, F�Iousing Code Inspection
Gary Eichele, Housing Code Inspector
St. Paul Fire Prevention Bureau:
Dan Norxgran, Assis.tant Fire riarshal
Jim Tuckex
OTHERS PRESENT: Robert J. Foley, Appellant
Belle Miller, Anpellant
Rabbi Solomon Niiller, Appellant .
C. A. Lindeke, Apnellant
. Joseph Stein, Appellant
� Edward E. D'Keilly, Appellant _
Anton A. �iicklander, Appellant
Karen Hoyle, Appellant
� Robert Hayle, Appellant
: Eldon Morrison, Architect
. Niels Fruhstuck, . Appellant
Thomas M. Mooney, Appellant . ,
STAFF PRESENT: Patricia Moxness, Secretary, Appeals Board
The meeting was called to order at 1 : 40 p .m.
The minutes of the meeting of blarch 8, I977, ��ere anproved as mailed
out to tfie Board members .
Chairman Wozniak reported that a renlacement had not yet been made ta .
fill the Board membership vacancy created by Norma Sommerdorf's resig-
nation .
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10- 77-H 1907 Feronia An.ton A. ��Iicklander .
(six units) -
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Request Wa.iver of St. Paul Legislative Code provisions pertaining to
cellar occupancies, with 'ieference to tz,ro .apartments , as designated in
Survey Letter of 2/16/77, so as to obtain Certificate �of Occupancy,
because of financial hardship.
APPE�IRANCE: Anton A. Wicklander �
• PROCEEDINGS:
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�Mr. iYicklander explained that he had purchased the property from his
grandfather. In checking back thrvugh previous recards of ownership,
. he had learned that one basement apartment, #5 , had been nut in in 1957,
. and Apt. #6 in 1960 .
. Frank Staffenson stated that Apt . #5' s bedroom window was very small
and situated about 6 ft. off the basement floor, and in its present
size and placement it could not be used as an exit, but this could be
corrected. As for Apt. #6, it was 44 ft. from the nearest exit, and
the bedroom windows were the standard 34 X 23 basement type, which made
its use as an exit practically impossible .
Mr. jVicklander said that an inspector had come out to measure the windot�s
and had explained exactly �ahat i�ras needed. P.Ir. tiVicklander had then �
purchased new 5 X 5 sliding windotJS which he «ould install less than
four feet above the basement floor. They tiaould be easily accessible
for exit use, especially �1ith the larger window-well that ZJOU1d be
constructed. Apt. #6 , which was 44 ft. away from the stairway exit,
would have two of these windows installed, so there �aould be two emergency
exits in addition to the rather distant stairway.
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PROCEEDINGS : (continued)
Mr. Staffenson agreed that this tisould bring the exiz situati����0
satisfactory compliance .
l�ir. Tieso asked if there would be sufficient ventilation for �ach of
: the apartments .
�Tr. Nicklander replied that there was a mechanical ventilator in the
bathroom of one unit, and the bathroom of the other unit had ventilation
througli th.e chimney.
- I�ir. Staffenson recommended that a mechanical ventilating fan be instalZed
in tfie batFiroom not noti,r having one , and Aixa ��icklander agreed to do this .
Mr. �+Ticklander said he would have the new sliding ivindows compl�tely
installed fiy fall of I977, and for tfie remaining s�rork, he felt tfi.e city
Fiad allowed Iiim sufficient time, allo��ring until ��iarch 16, 1978.
B"O�ARD �ACTI ON:
Mr. Tieso moved that a waiver of St . Paul Legislative Code provisions
proh.ibiting cellar occupanices be granted, on condition that Iarger,
easily accessifile windows be installed in .Apts . #5 and #6 and th..at
mechanical ventilation be installed in the batTiroam unit not now sa
equipped. Ch.airman Wozniak seconded. MOTION CARRIED AND SO ORDERED. :
THE �T�TE:
Ayes - 5 Nayes - 0 � Abstentions - 0
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1�1INUTES OF THE r�ETI�;G
� ST. PAUL BOARD OF �PPEALS � REVIE►�
Tuesday, April 12 , I977
City Council Committee Room 7Q7
City Hall and Court House
1 : 30 n .m.
� D�IE?�iB�RS PRES�ENT: D. Donald j�'ozniak, Cfiairman
Arthux I�i. Tieso
Estyr Bradle� Peake
Ronald Glassman
David Heider
D�IBER ABSENT: James Voigt
AGEVCIES� PRESE:�T: Department of Community Services - Division of
of I�ousing and Building Code Enforcement: -
�rank Staffenson, Supervisor, Housi.ng Code Inspectia�
Gary Eichele, Housing Code Ins�ector
St . Paui Fire Prevention Bureau:
Dan Norrgran, Assistant Fire bZars haI
Jim Tuckex
OTHERS PRE�ENT: Robert J. Foley, Appellant
Belle Miller, Anpellant
Rabbi Solomon Miller, Appellant
C. A. Lindeke, Apnellant
Joseph Stein, Appellant
� Edward E. D'F-Ieilly, AppeTlant
Anton A. T�tlicklander, Appella.ri.t
Karen Hoyle, Appellant
� Robert Hoyle, Appellant
� . Eldon Morrison, Architect
. Niels Fru�stuck, . Appellant
Thomas M. Mooney, Appellant
STAFF PRESENT: Patricia Moxness, Secretary, Appeals Board
The meeting was called to order at 1: 40 p .rn.
The minutes of tFie meeting of March 8, 1977, were anaroved as mailed
out to the Board members . �
Chairman Wozniak reported that a reolacement had not yet been made to
fill the Board membership vacancy created by Norma Sommerdorf' s resig-
nation .
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18- 77-H 1554 Fulham Robert � Karen Hoyle
(Construction plans for
proposed duplex)
SUBJECT: Request Waiver of St. Paul Legislative Code , Seetion 54. I3 Cd) .
pertaining to basement sleeping space , because substantia� costs of
planning already incurred and loan commitments obtained e�roul:d be a
fin ancial hardship if plans are not approved for vranosed construction.
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APPEAR4NCE : Karen and Robert Hoyle �
Eldon Tiorrison, Architect
PROCEEDINGS:
hlr. i�forrison displayed a model of the home which the Hoyles proposed
to build, explaining that, initially, it �sould be built as a sinole
family residence, with the possibility of later finishing the basement
into an apartment. Since the lot was sloping, the b ack section of the
basement would be more than SO% beloza grade , but the front area was a
walkout with many windows . The Iot was slightly undersized for a
: duplex in meeting zoning requirements , so with the approual of the
neighboring residents, they had appealed for a variance with the Zoning
Board and t�iis was granted. Fin ancing had then been obtained from a
. lending institution on the basis of the proposed p1 an. In the course
of securing building permits from the city of St. PauZ, it tvas found _
th.at tl�e plan did not conform to city code provisions pertaining ta
basement occupancies and the Hoyles fiad been advised to seek a waiver
of thnse requirements. In consultation with the city building depart-
ment, some minor changes were made, one change being the addition of steps
in �rindow �rells to make th.em easy to use as exits in case of emergency.
Th.ese tizexe situated in tfie rear area of the basement where it was planned
to make tra�o �edrooms if and wFien an apartment was finished. Mr. b4orrison
said tIie city� s only concern after all had agreed on the suggested modi-
��cations �ras that a variance be obtained on basement occunancy.
Mrs. Peake felt tfie city should not approve such plans in new construction,
even though subject to the granting of a variance by the Board of Appeals ,
�rhen they r�rere telling owners of buildings with basement apartments
�rfi.icIi had been in existence for many years that they could no longer
rent tFieYa.
CFiairman tlTozn3ak said it was his thought that the city wanted people
to proyide Tietter, safer living standards in basement accammodations_.
. At one time, a cellar was just a cellar when a house was constructed,
and as th.e years went by, sometimes it was converted to an apartment �
but with many sani.tary and health deficiencies because sucfi. use was never
meant to be. �
Frank Staffenson stated that the plan was in violation of Chapter 54 in
- t�,ro t�rays: �1J Insufficient light and ventilation in the kitchen, where
- tFiere was no �rindow, and �2� It �ras a basement occupancy. The plan could
not pa�s tFirougTi plan review if there wa�s a violation of the code-.- _ ` :
it was necessary to obtain a variance from the .Bo ard.
BOARD ACTION:
Chairman Wozniak moved that the waiver of basement occupancy be granted.
Mr. Heider seconded. b10TI0N FAILED TO CARRY.
THE VOTE:
Ayes - 2 (`Yozniak, Heider) Nayes - 3 (Glassman, Peake , Tieso)
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� FURTHER PROCEEDI:�'GS :
hir. Glassman explained that his reason for the neg�tive vote �Jas that
the �roposed home i�rould be ne�� construction, and he felt it would be
better to chande the plans now to comnly z��ith the code . �ie said he
<<as more sympathetic to basement occupancies t�here they have been in
existence for many years , j�here people have purchased such pro�erty in
good faith based on the amount of income generated and later faund them
to be illegal . Vacating an apartment in these circumstances could be
a real financial hardship.
Chairman ��'ozniak said the only basis of the appeal is that it is a
� basement occupancy. The main �roblem ta be considered in such areas
� is the matter of fire safety, provision of sufficient accessible e?cits .
I�h.at i�ith ne��� construction and the use o� modern materials, there ��auZd
be no h.ealth. �iazard. He felt the Board iJas created primarily to dea2
��ith situations ��rfiere it considered the code too inflexible , and, in his
opinion, tfiis was such a situation.
hir. Glassman inquired why the plan could not be redesigned as a split
foyer, or if the grade level could not be changed by- leveling the Iand
deeper into the hillside area.
b1r. Morrisonsaid this could not be done �+rithout detracting from the
appearance of t�ie fi ouses and it would also mean a steep bank on eithe r
side dropping from the grade o� tlle homes adjoining it. It was planned:
to �it in witFi tFie ne 'ighiiori.ng older Iiomes.
Mr. Hoyle remarked that another consideration was that their fin ancial
commitment was obtained in March at a rate of 8�% , but if it was necessary
to renegotiate , the current rate on home loans was 9� , which meant a
substantial difference to them. Not only that, but he had already spent
nearly $3,000 in architectural fees and other expenses in just the plan-
ning of their dream house . .
Mr. Glassman said he would be willing to change his vote if the Hoyles
` would make a few changes in their plans ta supply more light to the
` � back area of the basement.
. Chairman Wozniak asked if someone from the prevailing side on the
previous motion (one of those who voted against granting the waiver)
cared to make a motion to reconsider.
Mr. Glassman asked if it would be possible to put a window in every
� room proposed for a basement apartment, and Mr. Morrison said it would
be .
Mr. Tieso said he could change his vote to the affirmative with this
change in the plans .
. BOARD ACTION:
D1r. Tieso moved that the motion denying the appeal be reconsidered.
I�1r. Glassman seconded. MOTION CARRIED AVD SO ORDERED.
� THE VOTE : Ayes - 4 Nayes - 1 (Peake1 Abstenti.ons - U
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� FURTHER BOARD ACTION:
l�ir. Tieso moved that the t�•aiver of basement occupancy requirements be
granted, provided additional iaindows are installed in the basement level
apartment area to comply with St. Paul code requirements so as to increase
lighting and ventilati.on in those areas considered basement occupancies .
bir. Heider seconded. MOTION CARRIED AvD SO ORDERED.
THE VOTE:
Ayes - 4 Nayes - 1 (Peake) Abstentions - 0
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� i�1I:�TUTES OF THE ;���ETI�TG
� ST. PAUL BOARD OF APPEALS � REVIE�ti
Tuesday, April I2 , 1977
City Council Committee Room 707
City Hall and Court House
1 : 30 p .m.
� hlEriB�RS PRES�ENT: D. Donald j•�'ozniak, Ch.airman
Arthur I�i, Tieso
Estyx Bradle� Peake
Ronald Glassman
David Heider
MEMBER ABSENT: James Voigt
AGENCTES� �R�SENT: Department of Community Services - Division of
of Hous-ing and Building Code Enforcemen.t:
Frank Staffenson, Sunervisor, Housing Code Inspectiort
Gary Eichele, Housing Code Inspectar
St. Paul Fire Preven.tion Bureau:
Dan Norrgran, Ass istant Fire 1�larshal
Jim Tuckex
OT�iERS PRE�ENT: Robert J. Foley, Appellant
$elle Miller, Anpellant
Rabbi Solomon Mi11er, Appel2ant
C. A. Lindeke, Apnellant
Joseph Stein, Appellant
� Edward E. D'I-�eilly, Appellant
Anton A. k�icklander, Appellant
, Karen Hoyle, Appellant
� Robert Hayle, Appellant
- . Eldon Morrison, Architect
. Niels Fruhstuck, . Appellant
Thomas M. Mooney, Appellant
STAFF PRESENT: Patricia Moxness , Secretary, Appeals Board
The meeting was called to order at 1 : 40 p.m.
The minutes of the meeting of March 8, 1977, were apnroved as mailed
out to tFie Board members . �
Chairman Wozniak reported that a replacement had not yet been made to
fill the Baard membership vacancy created by Nor�na SommerdorfTs resig-
nation .
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13- 77-H 668-674 E. 4th St. Clarence A. Lirideke
(13 units) dba The Cherokee Co.
SUBJECT:
i2equest Waiver of St . Paul Legislative Code provisions requiring:
(1) Hand sinks in two b athrooms , (2) Installation of complete new bath-
room facility where two apartments now share one b athraom, and (3) Fire-
rated doors at a11 front entrances. Also, request Extension of Time �
from March 1, 1978 to October l, 1978, to complete i,rark on remaining
items designated in Survey Letter of 3/1/77, sa as to obtain Certificate
of Occup ancy. -Both requests made on grounds of finan cial h ardship.
APPEARANCE: C1 arence A. Lindeke
PROCEEDINGS :
Mr. Lindeke said the only apartments to share a bathroom facility are
two small apartments which are always rented to single people . In the
case of the two bathrooms where a handsink is required, he said there
was no space available , but in each instance the�kitchen sink was very
nearby and could be used for handwashing.
Chairman Wozniak asked if all the other work had been done .
Mr. Lindeke replied that all the plumbing, electrical and heating work
had been done, but some of the general mainten ance type items were sti13
in process because of inability to enter all the apartments at all times .
He currently had a full-time painter working there , four or five neta
bathroom floors had been installed, and a new roof h ad been put on.
He said the third item he was asking the Board to waive ��xas the require-
ment of firedoors and enclosed stairiaells . He explained that there i�rere
four entrances and each entrance served three apartments , and there ��ras
no place at 668 or 670 to install them.
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, PROCEEDIN.GS : (continued) ��`���
Frank Staffenson said that Dan Person, Senior Building Inspector, <<rould
be i�illing to s}io�� A1r. Lindeke how it could be done. He stressed the
impartance of fire doors and stairivell enclosures to life safet;� ichen
a fire occurs . He said his department �aould be agreeable to a ��aiver
of the handsink installations and the shared bathroom problem, but not
to the fire safety requirements .
BOARD ACTIOV:
l�ir. Glassman moved that waivers be granted on the hand sink requirement
: and the shared bathroom situation involving the two small apartments .
�Ir. Tieso amended the motion to add that the two small apartments be
restricted to orie tenant in each. hlr. Glassman maved to include i�
his motion that the matter of the installation of fire doars and stai.r��•ell
enclosures be laid over until the I�7ay meeting, to allow time for the
Appellant to meet with a re�resentative of the city building depart-
ment to work out a plan for such instaZlations or to ascertain if �t
can be done . T1r. Heider seconded. MOTION CARRIED AND SO ORDERED. -
THE VOTE:
Ayes - 5 Nayes - 0 Abstentions - �0
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�1INUTES OF THE �IEETI\jG
ST. PAUL BOARD OF APPEALS � REVIEit
Tuesday, April 12 , I97?
City Council Committee Room 7Q7
City Hall and Court House
1 : 30. n.m.
i•IEr�iB�RS PRESENT; D. Donald bVozniak, Ch.airman
Arth.zir i�i. Ti.eso
Estyr Bradle�r Peake �
Ronald Glassman
David Heider
D�IBER ABSENT: James Voigt
AGENCIES PR�SE:�T: Department of Community Services - Division of
of �-Iousing and Building Code Enforcement:
Frank Staffenson, S�unervisor, Houszng Code Inspectian
Gary Eichele, Housing Code Inspector
St. Paul Fire Prev�ntion Bnreau:
Dan Norrgran, Assi�tant Fire biars hal
Jim Tuckex
OTHERS PRESENT: Robert J. Foley, Appellant
$elle Miller, Anpellant
Rabbi Solomon Miller, Appellant -
C. A. Lindeke, Apnellan't
Joseph Stein, Appellant
- Ed��rard E. DtHeilly, Appellant
Anton A. �Vicklander, �ppellant
Karen Hoyle, Appellant
� Robert Hoyle, Appellant
: Eldon Morrison, Architect
_ Niels Fruhstuck, . Appellant
Thomas M. Mooney , Appellant
STAFF PRESENT: Patricia Moxness , Secretary, Appeals Board
The meeting was called to order at 1 : 40 p.m.
The minutes of tFie meeting of March 8, 1977, t�ere av�roved as mailed
out to tfie Board members .
Chairman �Vozniak reported that a renlacement had not yet been made to
fill the Board membership vacancy created by Norma Sammerdarf's resig-
nation .
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16-77-H 1857 Carroll Ave. Niels B. Fruhstuck
_ (six units) .
SUBJECT:
Request Waiver of St. Paul Legislative Code provisions pertaining to
basement occupancies , so as to obtain Certificate of Occupancy for
one basement unit, because added income is needed.
APPEARANCE : Niels B. Fruhstuck
� PROCEEDINGS:
. NIr. Fruhstuck explained that he had worked out plans to overcome the
. city' s objections to his previous request to use a room in the basement
as a sleeping room rental. He planned to install larger windotias that
� would swing open, rather than be pushed up, to make a more easily
accessible exit to the outside. He would remove the s.pace heater and
� run hot water heat to a radiator in the unit.
Frank Staffenson said that his department had requested Mr. . Fruhstuck
to supply plans on paper to be sure they were adequate and met fixe
safety requirements , but so far none had been received. He said Dan
Person had been out to see the building and that Mr. Fruhstuck was
combining the tz�ro basement rooms and a bathroom a�d providing large-
sized windows . If I��r. Fruhstuck would now supply written plans to
the Code Enforcement Division, the latter ti�ould be iailling to see a
variance granted on basement occup ancy. He said a double wall of 5/8"
� sheetrock was also reQuired on the wall that faced on the boiler room.
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rlr. Glassman moved that a 1�,'aiver be granted on basement occupancy for
one unit , subject to approval of i��ritter� nlans sup�lied by the A��sellant
to the Code Enforcement Division . �1r . Tieso seconded. MOTION CARRIED
A\D SO ORDERED.
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TIINUTES OF THE :�IEETI\tG
� ST. PAUL BOARD OF APPEALS F� REViEr�
Tuesday, April 12 , 1977
City Council Committee Room 707
City Hall and Court Hause
1 : 30 n .m.
�IEAIBERS PRES�ENT: D. Donald ti�'ozniak, Chairman
Artluzr l�i. Tieso
Esty�r Sradle� Peake :
Ronald Glassman
David Heider
MEMBER ABSF��IT: James Voigt
AGEVCIES` PRESENTt Department of Community Services - DiYiszart of
of Housing and Building Cade Enforcemen�:
�rank Staffenson, �unervisor, Housing Code Inspection
Gary Eichele, Housing Code Inspector
St. Paul Fire Prevention Bureau:
Dan Norrgran, Ass.is.tant Fire Marsh.al
Jim Tuckex�
OTHERS PRESENT: Robert J. Foley, Appellan�
Belle Millex, Anpellant
Ratibi Solomon Miller, Appellant
C. A. Lindeke, Apnellant -
Joseph Stein, Appellant -
� Edward E. D'�Ieilly, Appellant
Anton A. kYicklander, Appellant
Karen Hoyle, Appellant
� Robert Hoyle, Appellant
. Eldon Morrison, Architect
. . Niels Fruhstuck, .-Appellant
Thomas M. Mooney , Appellant .
STAFF PRESENT: Patricia Moxness , Secretary, Appeals Board
The meeting was called to order at 1 : 40 p.m.
The minutes of the meeting of March 8, 1977, were anp roved as mailed
out to tfie Board members . �
Chairman Wozniak reported that a renlacement had not yet been made to
fill the Board membership vacancy created by Norma Sommerdorfts resig-
nation .
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1i- 77-H 1844 Grand Avenue Edward E. D`Heilly ` �
(5 units) an behalf of Vida A'Hei�ly, .
SUBJECT: . _
Request j�laiver of St. Paul Legislative Code requiremerits pertaining �o
basement occupancies, so as to obtain Certificate of Occupancy far -
basement apartment, because of financial hardship_ � _ -
APPEARA.'�TCE : Ed�aard E. D�F-Teilly : .
PROCEEDINGS : � -
;�1r. D'Hei11y stated that the basement apartment of �he building ot��ned
by his 83-year-o1d mother was more than SQg below grade, and it z�ras _
this requirement he was ask3:ng tFie Board to waive.� There i,texe other
minor deficiencies s�-�icFi would be correc-Ced, provided the grade 2evel
requirement i�tas not going to profiibit continued rental of the apar�ment..
Frank. Stafferison said the� windoti,rs were somez�rhat short of requirements
for light and ventilation and were about S ft. 5 in� from the flaor, .
but were close enough to code to allow them to remain as they are,
� since there are already two means of egress to satisfy fire �safety -
standards. He asked about ventilation arrangements �in the bathroom, - �
and Mr. D�Heilly replied that mechanicaz ventilation was nr�vi:ded. -
BOARD ACTION: . � -
Mr. Tieso moved that a waiver be granfied so as to alla� basement occu-�
� pancy for, Apt. #5, provided all other requirements Iisted in Su�vey -
Letter of 3/21/77 are met. Mrs. Peake seGOnded. MOTION CARRIED A.ND
SO ORDERED. ' _ -
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fi1INUTES OF THE 1�IEETItiG
ST. PAUL BOARD OF APPEALS � REVIEtti`
Tuesday, April 12 , 1977
City Council Committee Room 707
City Hall and Court House
1 : 30 p.m.
�1E?�iB�RS PRESENT: D. Donald ��rozniak, Ciiair�an
Arthux I�1. Tieso
Hstyx Bxadle� Peake
Ronald Glassman
David Heider
A��iBER ABSENT: James Voigt
AGEVCIES PRESENT: Department of Community Services - Division of
of Housing and Building Cade Enforcement:
Frank Staffenson, Sunervisar, Housing Code Inspection
Gary Eichele, Housing Code Inspector
St. Paul Fire Preverition Bureau:
Dan Noxrgran, Assi�tant Fire hiars haI
Jim Tuckex
OT�IERS PRESENT: Robert J. Foley, Appellant
$elle Millex, Anpellant
Rabbi Solomon Miller, Appellan t
C. A. Lindeke, Apnellant
Joseph Stein, Appellant
Edward E. D'�-Ieilly, Appellant
Anton A. t�iicklander, Appella.nt
. Kaxen Hoyle, Appellant
. � Robert Hayle, Appellant
; Eldon Morrison, Architect
. Niels Fruhstuck, .�Appellant
Thomas M. Mooney , Appellant
STAFF PRESENT: Patricia Moxness , Secretary, Appeals Board
The meeting was called to order at 1: 40 p.m.
The minutes of tFie meeting of h7arch 8, 1977, were apnroved as mailed
out to tFie Board members .
Chairman Wozniak reported that a renlacement had not yet been made to
� fill the Board membership vacancy created by NorFaa Sommerdorf's resig-
nation . :