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01-365Council File # ol - 3� rj Q�I�i,J�L Presented Refened To Committee Date 1 BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the Apri13, 2001 2 decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer: 3 Propert�ppealed 4 1926 Crrand Avenue & 1764 Grand Avenue Appeliant Patrick Votel 5 Decision: Variance granted on non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming 6 doors are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors; 2) the building must othenvise be in 7 compliance. 8 604 Oakdale Avenue George Oxford 9 Decision: Variance granted onnon-confornung windows withthe following conditons: 1) whenthe non-conforming 10 window are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming windows; 2) the building must otherwise be in 11 compliance. 12 1079 Arkwrieht 13 Decision: Variance granted on non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming 14 doors are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors; 2) the building must otherwise be in 15 compliance. Requested by Department of: Adoption Certified by Council Secretary By: "U d' � — Approved by Mayor: Date r� � RESOLUTION CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Green Sheet # 106050 �� � Form Approved by City Attomey � Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council � � Adopted by Council: Date H,2Ji �� c '�Oa ` ---�—• i a�-�cs Council Offices 4-4-2001 GREEN SHEET No 105050 Gerry Strathman 4�266-8560 ININB9t FOR Rq1i91G TOTAL # OF SIGNATURE PACaES � ,. ,�.:,,�:, ❑ rnw„awar ❑ arcamc ❑ NYMCYLi�NICROR ❑ NMNCJI1Li ❑ wma�ae�swtwm ❑ (CL1P ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE), Approving the decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code Enforcement appeals for the following addresses: 1926 Grand Avenue, 1764 Grand Avenue, 1079 Arkwright, 604 Oakdale Avenue. PLANNING COMMISSION CIB COMMITTEE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION IFAPPROVED �Y) Hec thic D�� aver waked undet a conUaet far Nis tlepaMieM't YES NQ Hes Mi v�� eva heen a dty emqoyee9 YES NO Oces N's De�corufirm D�aeess a eqll no[ namelbPOSeessed bY anY arteM citY emPbYee7 YES NO b Mis D�� e taryeted ventloR VES I� tlain all vec eimv�eB a18eDafate iheet aM altech tu➢tacvl ahee[ �cuec� u�q ra Ho SOURCE ACTNITY NUMBER INFORMATION (EXPLAIN) Ol -�`S NOTES OF TF� PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING Tuesday, Apri13, 2001 Room 330 Courthouse Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing Officer STAFF PRESENT: Mike Urmann, Fire Prevention. 1926 Grand Avenue and 1764 Grand Avenue Patrick Votel, owner, appeazed and stated he is requesting a variance on non-confoiuiing fire rated doors. Mike Urmann stated Fire Prevention has no objections to granting a variance, with conditions, on the non-conforming doors. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance. 604 Oakdale Avenue George Oxford, owner, appeared and stated he has owned the property for ten years. The building was vacant when purchased. Before the property could be rented, a team inspection was completed by the City and passed. Mr. Oxford said he has had current inspections since then that have also passed. During the last inspection the inspector told Mr. Oxford that the windows in the bedrooms would haue to be replaced. Mr. O�ord said the windows do not have stops, they are removable. The windows can be removed by pulling them off of the tracks. In response to Mr. Strathman's question, what is the width and height of the windows, Mr. Oxford responded the windows aze 36 x 36, double hung. The windows weze place in the building in the early 60's. There are four units in the building. The e�terior of the building is stucco, therefor replacing the windows will be a major project. Mike Urmann reported the orders were written inwrrect. The orders should have stated that the windows openable area is 18 x 36. The total glazed area is 36 x 36. The minimum openable height of the bottom sili has to be 24 inches and the minimum openable width has to be 20 inches. You cannot obtain 20 inches and 24 inches and still t�ave a 5.7 foot glazed azea on existing windows. The windows are approximately a half of a foot short. Mr. Strathman asked if Fire Fighters would be able to get in the windows if there was a fire. Mr. O�ord responded the windows can be removed easily from the inside. Mr. O�ord said he spoke with City personnel aud was told there never has been a problem with this type of window. Fire Fighters will kick them out. Mr. O�ord said in his judgement he feels an average person could get out. Mr. O�ord does not believe the windows are a l�azard. o�-��s Property Code Enforcement Minuets 4-3-2001 Page 2 Mr. Urmann stated within the exiting code requirement, it is stated that there has to be a singie motion eacist for any egress window. To open and remove both window panes, to achieve the openable width, will not meet the requirements of the code. In similar cases the e�sting double hung window is removed and replaced with a window insert that cranks out. The openings in thid building aze big enough, however, the construction of the window does not meet the code requirement. An average person my be able to get out of the window but a Fire Fighter will never get in. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-confornung windows with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming windows need to be repaired or replaced, they will be replaced with conforming windows, 2) the build'mg must otherwise be in compliance. 10�9 Arkwright Avenue (No one appeared to represent the property) Mike Urmann stated Fire Prevention has no objections to granting a variance, with conditions, on the non-conforming doors. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-confornung doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance. The meeting was adjourned at 1:41 pm. sjw Council File # ol - 3� rj Q�I�i,J�L Presented Refened To Committee Date 1 BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the Apri13, 2001 2 decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer: 3 Propert�ppealed 4 1926 Crrand Avenue & 1764 Grand Avenue Appeliant Patrick Votel 5 Decision: Variance granted on non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming 6 doors are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors; 2) the building must othenvise be in 7 compliance. 8 604 Oakdale Avenue George Oxford 9 Decision: Variance granted onnon-confornung windows withthe following conditons: 1) whenthe non-conforming 10 window are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming windows; 2) the building must otherwise be in 11 compliance. 12 1079 Arkwrieht 13 Decision: Variance granted on non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming 14 doors are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors; 2) the building must otherwise be in 15 compliance. Requested by Department of: Adoption Certified by Council Secretary By: "U d' � — Approved by Mayor: Date r� � RESOLUTION CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Green Sheet # 106050 �� � Form Approved by City Attomey � Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council � � Adopted by Council: Date H,2Ji �� c '�Oa ` ---�—• i a�-�cs Council Offices 4-4-2001 GREEN SHEET No 105050 Gerry Strathman 4�266-8560 ININB9t FOR Rq1i91G TOTAL # OF SIGNATURE PACaES � ,. ,�.:,,�:, ❑ rnw„awar ❑ arcamc ❑ NYMCYLi�NICROR ❑ NMNCJI1Li ❑ wma�ae�swtwm ❑ (CL1P ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE), Approving the decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code Enforcement appeals for the following addresses: 1926 Grand Avenue, 1764 Grand Avenue, 1079 Arkwright, 604 Oakdale Avenue. PLANNING COMMISSION CIB COMMITTEE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION IFAPPROVED �Y) Hec thic D�� aver waked undet a conUaet far Nis tlepaMieM't YES NQ Hes Mi v�� eva heen a dty emqoyee9 YES NO Oces N's De�corufirm D�aeess a eqll no[ namelbPOSeessed bY anY arteM citY emPbYee7 YES NO b Mis D�� e taryeted ventloR VES I� tlain all vec eimv�eB a18eDafate iheet aM altech tu➢tacvl ahee[ �cuec� u�q ra Ho SOURCE ACTNITY NUMBER INFORMATION (EXPLAIN) Ol -�`S NOTES OF TF� PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING Tuesday, Apri13, 2001 Room 330 Courthouse Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing Officer STAFF PRESENT: Mike Urmann, Fire Prevention. 1926 Grand Avenue and 1764 Grand Avenue Patrick Votel, owner, appeazed and stated he is requesting a variance on non-confoiuiing fire rated doors. Mike Urmann stated Fire Prevention has no objections to granting a variance, with conditions, on the non-conforming doors. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance. 604 Oakdale Avenue George Oxford, owner, appeared and stated he has owned the property for ten years. The building was vacant when purchased. Before the property could be rented, a team inspection was completed by the City and passed. Mr. Oxford said he has had current inspections since then that have also passed. During the last inspection the inspector told Mr. Oxford that the windows in the bedrooms would haue to be replaced. Mr. O�ord said the windows do not have stops, they are removable. The windows can be removed by pulling them off of the tracks. In response to Mr. Strathman's question, what is the width and height of the windows, Mr. Oxford responded the windows aze 36 x 36, double hung. The windows weze place in the building in the early 60's. There are four units in the building. The e�terior of the building is stucco, therefor replacing the windows will be a major project. Mike Urmann reported the orders were written inwrrect. The orders should have stated that the windows openable area is 18 x 36. The total glazed area is 36 x 36. The minimum openable height of the bottom sili has to be 24 inches and the minimum openable width has to be 20 inches. You cannot obtain 20 inches and 24 inches and still t�ave a 5.7 foot glazed azea on existing windows. The windows are approximately a half of a foot short. Mr. Strathman asked if Fire Fighters would be able to get in the windows if there was a fire. Mr. O�ord responded the windows can be removed easily from the inside. Mr. O�ord said he spoke with City personnel aud was told there never has been a problem with this type of window. Fire Fighters will kick them out. Mr. O�ord said in his judgement he feels an average person could get out. Mr. O�ord does not believe the windows are a l�azard. o�-��s Property Code Enforcement Minuets 4-3-2001 Page 2 Mr. Urmann stated within the exiting code requirement, it is stated that there has to be a singie motion eacist for any egress window. To open and remove both window panes, to achieve the openable width, will not meet the requirements of the code. In similar cases the e�sting double hung window is removed and replaced with a window insert that cranks out. The openings in thid building aze big enough, however, the construction of the window does not meet the code requirement. An average person my be able to get out of the window but a Fire Fighter will never get in. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-confornung windows with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming windows need to be repaired or replaced, they will be replaced with conforming windows, 2) the build'mg must otherwise be in compliance. 10�9 Arkwright Avenue (No one appeared to represent the property) Mike Urmann stated Fire Prevention has no objections to granting a variance, with conditions, on the non-conforming doors. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-confornung doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance. The meeting was adjourned at 1:41 pm. sjw Council File # ol - 3� rj Q�I�i,J�L Presented Refened To Committee Date 1 BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the Apri13, 2001 2 decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer: 3 Propert�ppealed 4 1926 Crrand Avenue & 1764 Grand Avenue Appeliant Patrick Votel 5 Decision: Variance granted on non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming 6 doors are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors; 2) the building must othenvise be in 7 compliance. 8 604 Oakdale Avenue George Oxford 9 Decision: Variance granted onnon-confornung windows withthe following conditons: 1) whenthe non-conforming 10 window are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming windows; 2) the building must otherwise be in 11 compliance. 12 1079 Arkwrieht 13 Decision: Variance granted on non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming 14 doors are replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors; 2) the building must otherwise be in 15 compliance. Requested by Department of: Adoption Certified by Council Secretary By: "U d' � — Approved by Mayor: Date r� � RESOLUTION CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA Green Sheet # 106050 �� � Form Approved by City Attomey � Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council � � Adopted by Council: Date H,2Ji �� c '�Oa ` ---�—• i a�-�cs Council Offices 4-4-2001 GREEN SHEET No 105050 Gerry Strathman 4�266-8560 ININB9t FOR Rq1i91G TOTAL # OF SIGNATURE PACaES � ,. ,�.:,,�:, ❑ rnw„awar ❑ arcamc ❑ NYMCYLi�NICROR ❑ NMNCJI1Li ❑ wma�ae�swtwm ❑ (CL1P ALL LOCATIONS FOR SIGNATURE), Approving the decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code Enforcement appeals for the following addresses: 1926 Grand Avenue, 1764 Grand Avenue, 1079 Arkwright, 604 Oakdale Avenue. PLANNING COMMISSION CIB COMMITTEE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION IFAPPROVED �Y) Hec thic D�� aver waked undet a conUaet far Nis tlepaMieM't YES NQ Hes Mi v�� eva heen a dty emqoyee9 YES NO Oces N's De�corufirm D�aeess a eqll no[ namelbPOSeessed bY anY arteM citY emPbYee7 YES NO b Mis D�� e taryeted ventloR VES I� tlain all vec eimv�eB a18eDafate iheet aM altech tu➢tacvl ahee[ �cuec� u�q ra Ho SOURCE ACTNITY NUMBER INFORMATION (EXPLAIN) Ol -�`S NOTES OF TF� PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING Tuesday, Apri13, 2001 Room 330 Courthouse Gerry Strathman, Legislative Hearing Officer STAFF PRESENT: Mike Urmann, Fire Prevention. 1926 Grand Avenue and 1764 Grand Avenue Patrick Votel, owner, appeazed and stated he is requesting a variance on non-confoiuiing fire rated doors. Mike Urmann stated Fire Prevention has no objections to granting a variance, with conditions, on the non-conforming doors. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-conforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance. 604 Oakdale Avenue George Oxford, owner, appeared and stated he has owned the property for ten years. The building was vacant when purchased. Before the property could be rented, a team inspection was completed by the City and passed. Mr. Oxford said he has had current inspections since then that have also passed. During the last inspection the inspector told Mr. Oxford that the windows in the bedrooms would haue to be replaced. Mr. O�ord said the windows do not have stops, they are removable. The windows can be removed by pulling them off of the tracks. In response to Mr. Strathman's question, what is the width and height of the windows, Mr. Oxford responded the windows aze 36 x 36, double hung. The windows weze place in the building in the early 60's. There are four units in the building. The e�terior of the building is stucco, therefor replacing the windows will be a major project. Mike Urmann reported the orders were written inwrrect. The orders should have stated that the windows openable area is 18 x 36. The total glazed area is 36 x 36. The minimum openable height of the bottom sili has to be 24 inches and the minimum openable width has to be 20 inches. You cannot obtain 20 inches and 24 inches and still t�ave a 5.7 foot glazed azea on existing windows. The windows are approximately a half of a foot short. Mr. Strathman asked if Fire Fighters would be able to get in the windows if there was a fire. Mr. O�ord responded the windows can be removed easily from the inside. Mr. O�ord said he spoke with City personnel aud was told there never has been a problem with this type of window. Fire Fighters will kick them out. Mr. O�ord said in his judgement he feels an average person could get out. Mr. O�ord does not believe the windows are a l�azard. o�-��s Property Code Enforcement Minuets 4-3-2001 Page 2 Mr. Urmann stated within the exiting code requirement, it is stated that there has to be a singie motion eacist for any egress window. To open and remove both window panes, to achieve the openable width, will not meet the requirements of the code. In similar cases the e�sting double hung window is removed and replaced with a window insert that cranks out. The openings in thid building aze big enough, however, the construction of the window does not meet the code requirement. An average person my be able to get out of the window but a Fire Fighter will never get in. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-confornung windows with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming windows need to be repaired or replaced, they will be replaced with conforming windows, 2) the build'mg must otherwise be in compliance. 10�9 Arkwright Avenue (No one appeared to represent the property) Mike Urmann stated Fire Prevention has no objections to granting a variance, with conditions, on the non-conforming doors. Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the non-confornung doors with the following conditions: 1) when the non-conforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance. The meeting was adjourned at 1:41 pm. sjw