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84-1482 WHITE - CITV CLERK PINK - FINANCE G I TY OF SA I NT PAU L Council ��_/�8,a CANARY - DEPARTMENT BLUE - MAVpR File NO. � _ � Council Resolution Presented B Referr d To Committee: Date Out of mmittee By Date WHEREAS, Dennis C. Kessler was the holder of a permit to carry a firearm�pursuant to St. Paul Legislative Code Section 225. 05� in the course of his employment as a security guard for Loomis Armored Car Service, Inc . ; and WHEREAS, on July 24, 1984, Police Chief William McCutcheon exercised his discretion, pursuant to S�. Paul Legisla�ive Code Section 225. 05, Subd. 1, by revoking in writing Dennis Kessler ' s aforementioned permit for the following violations of law which arose in an inciden� which occurred on June 11, 1984 : l . Dennis Kessler was not authorized by permit to carry a firearm for the purpose of responding to that par- 'ticular incident; 2 . Dennis Kessler committed a misdemeanor offense by discharging a firearm in the City of Saint Paul in violation of state statutes; and 3 . Dennis Kessler used deadly force in a circumstance in which it was not authorized; and WHEREAS, Dennis Kessler exercised his right, pursuant to St. Paul Legislative Code Section 225. 05, Subd. 4, to appeal the police chief 's determina�ion to Mayor George Latimer; and WHEREAS, Mayor La�timer, after review of �he police repor�s and the arguments set for'ch in writing by Dennis Kessler ' s attorney, notified Dennis Kessler by letter of his decision �o uphold Chief McCutcheon' s detcermination; and COUfVCILMEN Requested by Department of: Yeas Nays Fletcher Drew In Favor Masanz Nicosfa scneibei __ Against BY Tedesco Wilson Form Approved by City Attorney Adopted by Council: Date Certified Yassed by Council Secretary By t��il�- �° �rY�''""`L 1�'ZZ" '�� � gy, t#pproved by Mavor: Date _ Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council By _ gY . i �. • � ��/�'D;/�:'� 2nd /��'�r%`-'� lst � / _ J ,..w.� 3rd � %.� S Ado.pted /� � l "� T � -,���� ��„ �y.�.1 Yeas � NaYs ���-� �. . DREW - `',y ,. � �Lf 4:N y� ... . , . �i ��`�� V FLETCHER /i7 � �?� -117J G'✓ ;`{j��.� _ Ci ,;;3�,t MASANZ �7���' _ _°-.3:�:a^.�.�:�:._._ NICOSIA SCHEIBEL WILSON 1KR, PRESIDENT TEDESCO --\- - — _„�.,,�.�,.q�...,._ -k���':� � .��, j���.��. ���� a� 'ti'�-;� , � � ;� . � �.� �� {�C� � �i fJ��.�,:� . ' WHEREAS, Dennis Kessler appealed the Mayor' s decision to the City Council for the City of Saint Paul; and WHEREAS, the City Council considered Dennis Kessler ' s appeal on October 9, 1984 and again as the Legislation Committee meeting as a committee of the whole on October 22, 1984 ; and WHEREAS, the City Council heard testimony from both those who supported the Mayor and Police Chief ' s determinations and those who supported Dennis Kessler ' s appeal; and WHEREAS, the evidence established that Dennis Kessler discharged his firearm, not in defense of a victim of a crime, but rather, in pursuit of two suspects ; and WHEREAS, the Council engaged in extensive questioning of the witnesses and discussion of their testimony and based its determination on the overall weight of the evidence; and WHEREAS, the Council determined that Dennis Kessler vio- lated St. Paul Legislative Code Section 225.10 (1) which by the terms of Section 225. 05, Subd. 1 is a basis for revocation of a permit to carry a firearm; and WHEREAS, the Council voted 6 - 1 to uphold the Police Chief and Mayor ' s determinations and to deny Dennis Kessler ' s appeal; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED, that the Police Chief and Mayor' s decisions to revoke the permit issued to Dennis Kessler to carry a firearm in the course of his employment by Loomis is hereby upheld; and, be it FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Council ' s decision is effective upon publication of this Resolution; and, be it 2 . WMITE - CiTV CLERK PINK - FINANCE G I TY OF SA I NT PA U L Council /� CANARV - DEPARTMENT File NO. u �^ ` �" � BLUE - MAVOR � . . • Council Resolution Presented By Referred To Committee: Date Out of Committee By Date FINALLY RESOLVED, tha� the City Clerk is hereby directed to publish this Resolution after its approval by the Mayor, as required by the Charter. 3 . COUIVCILMEfV Requested by Department of: Yeas Nays �'F/y n r� Drew _� [n Favor Masanz Nicosia schetbe� __ Against BY Tedesco Wilson Adopted by Council: Date �CT � 0 198�+ Form Approved by City Attorney Certified Ya: d ouncil Se tary By ��� �` /�Y��/��:CNL �0 LZ'�f�— Appr by Ylavor: Dat NOV 2 — �98� Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council By BY PUBUSNED N O V 101984 , �q �� - ���� ``'! CITY OF ►.r7AINT PAUL �;� ���., r>� I ia' '` ' • OFFICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL �- „� ,.,.,.,. ` a���yaasnr d�� 'hfs�_7211�59` '�� _ . . i, ' .^9 ', � D a t e : October 22, 1984 �C,:. �.t� . �' �-• .t" . CO (�IM (TT � � RE PORT Frc�a - U'c; 1�' �I ��� �B� 7'O = �Q�n� Pc�ul Cit� Coc��cit fls �g . �►��iC1�4��'g {�F � � ;=:�.is �{� , F1C_ F� � � = Comt�ittee On LEGISLATION (Committee of the 'Wh��} C N A 1 R ; JOHN DREW Agenda Item 2 Appeal of Dennis Kessler to. an action involving the revocation of a gun permit. The Legislation Committee voted to deny the appeal of P1r. Kessler. CITY HALL SEVENTH FLOOR SAINT PAUI„ MINNESOTA 55IO2 ��,.+� " ! '/... . .. �.:.. . . .. .. . . . . .:�. ' . � .. ..l.. ' i ' ��.- .} . + � �/�( .I /a��_ ) . , . . � . i , ... , ; _ . ��, . � ' , .. , � ." ` , t . .. .. � i. . .' ./ l !' :� • ., i .: ' . � • , . 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I am writing pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 225 of the St . Paul City Charter and Legislative Code to request: tl ) your review of Chief McCutcheon' s decision Gnd reinstatement of Mr . Kessler' s permit; or, in the alternative , ( 2 ) a suspension of the action revoking the permit until such time as it is clear whethzr any misdemeanor proceedings will be commenced in this matter. Chief McCutcheon sets forth the reasons upon which he bases his decision in his letter to hir. Kessler. In light of the fact that �he Chief of Police expresses the opinion that hir. Kessler may have committed a misdemeanor, it is not appropriate for me to address specifically the comments made in the McCutcheon le�ter at �his time. I would only point _ out that Section 225. 10( 1 ) of the City Charter and Legislative Code permits the discharye of a firearnz ° [ i] n lawful defense of person or property against an unlawfuZ act . ° As you know, Mr. Kessler has full rights to contest the revocation of his permit. In view of the fact , however , that Chief McCu�cheon has stated " . . .you discharged a firearm in the City of St . Paul in violation of State Statutes , which is a misdemeanor offense ," it appears that there may be the possibility of misdemeanor proceedings in this situation . Until this question is resolved it is impossible for �. , �� -i��� The Honorab].e George' Latirner August 1 , 198� paye 2 i�lr. Kessler to exercise fully the rights granted to him under the City Charter and Legislative Code without compromi.sing his Fifth Amendment rights . Therefore , in the event you do not feel that you possess enough information at this time to act upon Atr . �essler' s appeal , I believe it appropriate for _ any further revocation proceedings or p�ocedures to be stayed until the misdemeanor question is finally resolved . Thank you for your consideration and I await your reply. Very truly yours , FUSTER & JENSEN Thoznas H. Jensen THJ/lk Enclosure cc : Dennis Kessler William McCutcheon Paul McCloskey , Esq. • � 4�- /��'a . � . _,::`R�iTr o��c�r • . ' . � CITY C?F SAiNT �AUL _`�° � ;•�; , �° �-�� �` DEPARTMENT OF POLlCE ; .� .u,u�nu�� ,; ;� �iin�qu! ,' `'' "= Wm. W. R1cCutcheon, Chief of Police , �... � ""�•U��'° ' 101 East 7enth Street Saint Paul,Min�esota 55101 GEORCE LATJMER 612-291-1111 MAYOR July 24, 1gg4 rir. Dennis Kessler 1029 Edmund St. Paul, Minnesota 55104 Mr. Kessler: Pursuant to Chapter 225.0�, Subd. i, the St. Paul Police Departmet�t is authorized to issue and revoke permits �o carry firearms. It is my understanding that you made application for a permit to carry a firearm in conjunction with your employment as a Loomis Security Guard. That permit was issued to Loomis. As you were told, a permit to carry a firearm is issued for your usage during employment and to and from employment and for no other purpose. On June 11, 1984, you apparently heard a woman scream outside yaur residence, "No! no! no!". You then observed two males fleeing from her presense. You assumed that a purse snatching had occurred. You apparently took your firzarm, a 38 caliber weapon, and proceeded to chase the two males you had observed fleeing from the woman's presence. During the course of the pursuit, you discharged two rounds from the weapon, later explaining that you did so either to stop the two males from fleeing or to utilize the noise from a discharge of the weapon to serve as some sort of an indirect means of summoning the police. There is no evidence available to suggest that you were, in any way, employed by the Loomis Company at the time you fired your weapon. Therefore, I have reached the conclusion that: 1. You are not authorized by permit to carry a firearm for the purpose of responding to this incident. 2. That you discharged a firearm in the City of St. Paul in violation of State Statutes, which is a misdemeanor offense. ,3. You utilized deadly force in a circumstance in which it is not authorized. Therefore, your permit to carry a firearm is revoked. Sincerely, bL?�+ G��J�1C��G*i.Gtt L.�, tvm. W. McCutcheon CHIF.F OF POLICE WMcC:ch • _ ......__._ __�x,... .._,._d,,.>,..d„_.�._,..,....v...._:..,�..:,:......��__:�..�.._.� - �. ��.,.,�._.>,.,�.�.�..,_....:_...__.. ,:�>:�...�..r� _._ ...,: � �-/��� � FOSTER& JENSEN ATTORNEVS AT lAW ROBERT J.FOSTER 754 NORWEST M�DLAND BUtLDING AREA CODE 612 TMOMAS M.JENSEN 401 SEGOND AVE.SOUTH TE�EaMONe 332-0337 MINNEAPOUS,MINiVESOTA 55401 September 7 , 1984 The Honorable George Latimer Office of the Mayor 347 City Hall • St . Paul , Minnesota 55102 Re: Mr. Dennis Kessler Appeal of Rev�cation of Perrnit to Carry Firearm. Dear Mayor Latimer: I have received Ms . Lee Ann Turchin' s letter of August 30, 1984 regarding the above matter. Ms. Turchin forwarded the police records concerning the above with her letter and invited me to supplement my letter to you of August 24 , 1984 after I reviewed the police reports. I believe the police records forwarded to me by Ms . Turchin basically substantiate the factual background set forth in my August 24, 1984 letter. It appears to me that Mr . Kessler' s actions can, at worst , be viewed as an excess of zeal in his attempt to come to the aid of a crime victim and apprehend two thiefs . Certainly, Mr . Kessler' s actions cannot be termed in any way malicious. As I have indicated in previous correspondence , it is our position that Mr. Kessler' s actions were authorized by relevant provisions of the Legislative Code. In any event , however, it seems that under the circumstances Chief McCutcheon' s revocation of Mr. Kessler' s permit to carry a firearm is unc�uly harsh. As you are aware , we are reques�iny that the Chief' s determination be reversed by you. However, 7 do suggest that in the event you conclude some action is warranted , the facts of Mr. Kessler' s case justify only a brief suspension of his permit rights . Thank you for your consideration. Very truly yours, FOSTER & JENSEN Thomas H. 3ensen THJ/lk � J cc : Dennis Kessler Paul McCloskey, Esq. William McCutcheon �`� '�I'.�.`�' Oi' ►,�'. AINT �AUL �� " /��'o� .�tsr oPV.,� �.:�R; Y�:\ � `'� �FFICE OF TI-fE �IAYOI'. �; � y;� j j '�} � •I:il3!11i11� . '�< 'ili i ��i ll s� . .{�A nCo �;� �e�� 5� 347 CITY FIALL �-z'="y SAINT Pe1UL, bfINNESOT�I SSla2 GEORGF, LATTIIER (612) 298-4323 1�fAYOR September 25, 1985 ' Mr. Thomas H. Jensen Foster and Jensen Attorneys At Law 754 Norwest P:idl«nd Buiiding 401 Second Avenue South Minneapolis, �iinnesota 55401 ' Dear Mr. Jensen: RE: DENNIS RESSLER APPEAL OF REVOCATION OF PERP�iIT TO CARRY A FIREARt�! I have now had the opportunity to revie:� the complete f ile and your arguments relative to the ���.:�is Kessler revocation. Based on tha� review, I support the revocation of the permit to carry a firearm as sta�ed in Chief P�lcCutcheon's letter of July 24, 1984. Sincerely, , . . ---� EOR LATIMER May r GL:drm / cc: Dennis Ressler v Paul P�cCloskey Chief l4cCutcheon City Council �, �.��e _ -__. ...._;,.,._ _.,..__,.___._..�..�..,....,� _ _ ._ �...______ _...___ . __ ..._.___.,,_._.�. _.. _ . �� j��a_ • ! �� ��� � " �,. , _ .;- �.. __ � - - ,s _ � =� . � .�.�D ���� � � `� � �ur��-�n�°�c� c�as�r � has un �rr�i�t �i���c� � ;..,-x +J � � . ��p .��. . By Karl J. Karison ��xvn rampant through the area," �fi�� - Staff Writer , Bessler,44,s�ia��aay. ��„��� �� '� �Ie`said:the suspect, who turned ��'��'�1 Out to be a 1?- ear-old out went # � St. Paul Fire Department Capt. Y� Y � �� ' Dennis Kessler figures his getting ' �wn an alley^�essler followed ������ involved as a good citizen will cost �• ��ey ran through the al..ey, ,•r4�- *°° him$6,000,or.$3,000 for each shot �essler.said he fired two shots iato � � tlie air. `-�r�._��::.:�.— he fired while chasing a purse , ; ' � snatcher Monday. �,`I fired to attract the cops. I St. Paul Deputy Police Chief"' �dn't shoot at the kid.I covld have � John 1�Iord says Kessler's actions �la�at wasn't my intention," he were dangerous to the: citizenry . and Tuesday revoked Kessler's Police, called by Kessler's wife permit to carry a gun. _ who had gone to the aid of the vic- Without the permit,Kessler said tim,did.arriqe and arrested the ju- ' Tuesday, he can't work part time venile. as a driver for Loomis Armored The 67-year-old victim's purse Car Service,a job he's had for sev- was recovered_ She was not in- eral months.He said he would have jured. earned $6,Q00 a year from Loomis qyiesday morning, I�essler said, ' and.now loses that amount. Nord called saying he was going to "They (police) spend a lot of revoke the twamonth-old gun per- tune trying to get people involved mit Kessler obtained when he � with neighborhood watches and started driving for Loomis. neighborhood assistance officers," Nord said he yanked the permit � said Bessler, a one-time candidate }�ause "I don't like people shoot- for the City Council."Revoking my ����ns in residential neighbor- i permit seems callous." hoods. Our police officers would Kessler said the whole thing noti'be allowed to use their guns as -- �started about 5 p.m. Monday as he Kessler did." � - - _ _ and his family were eating dinner. police departmen� policy limits They�heard a woman screaming �of a guq"deadly force" in po- outside. lice jargon, to situations in which. "She sounded:like she was get- an officer knows a crime of via ting killed," Kessler�said.,He ran lence has been committed and the� out to see an eiderly woman — su'spect is likely to,harm someone� "She reminded me of my grand- eLse. mother who raised me" -.ye�ling �The city ordinance covering gun .:T��, __ and a man runnmg away down'Oz- permits sayS they are to be issued _ _ � � ford Street between Edmund and by the chief of police and can be ;�,�,�x�s ° Tttomas avenues.- " . _ revoked for cause. ��,1: � >:. Bessler said he then got his.357- police Chief William ,��, �:�� - caliber Magnum Smith and Wesson McCutcheon said Kessler's permit � j '�� °-� � pistol and ran after the suspect. 'was to carry the weapon on his job. �K�`': } "The old people in our neighbor- �°We don't have any gun permits �l � ���� hood are getting set upon all the :: out there for self-protection or ?�i s :�'� � time. Kids like this think they can merely carrying: The permits we ' ' 3���• ` .. . 4 ��^ ". � <.issue extend only to employment, ,,. ��'- - ----- -�'��-�-'-� not packing a gun as you wander about the city:' McCutcheon said Ressler was clearly wrong in firing his weapon. "It was a.:.purse snatch. The woman was not hurt. Deadly force � was not an appropriate response to the situation,"McCutcheon said. � . _ ;;:; _ _ . .._.._ .�.. ._,.._. .__..�x :_>._.._._.�.... .. ,_ ._ � _ .- _ . _ _ ,.�,. _-.....,�,� �� /��� _ _ , . �. -. _ . , _ _ . w.... , . ,�. : ' �. ._, ._ -�•�:etters to the Editor ,, � i"� > . �. - .' ��� ����'� �"��������� ��� ���� .�:rJ. � , St. Paul Deputy�Police Chief John Nord into the air to summon assistance from my dren's hospitals hosted a workshop conf� revoked Fire Department Capt. Dennis neighbors and the police. ence for professionals working with chi�= Ressler's gun permit because he thought it dren recovering from head in t� was dan erous for Ca t. Kessler to shoot The subject of an issued g�n permit for _� _ - ��,, ,- � g p a second job is_unrelated to t.he use of a -- . ��� � - his gun into the air and rescue a screaming firearm taken from one's own home in hot '�s; elderiy lady from a 17-year-old purse p�wt of a robber who�assaults elderly , ''`���t � snatcher. - �.� a _ . ' - ladies. I feel that revocation is an eg- � .� Who's the criminal here, Kessler or the �emely callous response hy the police ad- ��` purse snatcher? Wha's side is Chief Nord ��ation. ` �� on?With this type of police mentality,it's � �{ ' I further submit that a different chain of .: �� ' ' � not surprising that S� Paul's streets are events would have occurred had the vic- . � ,�.:._._. teeming with thugs.If Nord and his associ- , '�-��`a�� tim s name been Nord or McCutcheon. ates were doing their jobs, we wouldn't «Not a crime of violence," "the woman need heroes like Kessler to do their jobs was not hurt," "this was only a purse � for them. RpY STOLTZMAN �atch,,' states Police Chief William A. McCutcheon. ����e �I take esception to the playing down of � � , . . . .'� this act of violence against this aad other , _ ` elderly persons. The woman faced these A 6T-year-old, 100'pound lady was set two thugs alone and was frightened to upon by two"qout�s."A description of the death. She very well could have sustain2d "youths" is in order. Suspect No. 1 was 5- �MOUS injury or been maimed, never to foot-9 and 150 pounds. Suspect No. 2 was return to her former state of health. 6-foot 4 and 230 pounds.That is not a mis- po we have to have a sequel to the drag- P��- � -. . ging death of the-woman in V�est St. Paul A 17-year-old; &foot-4, 230-pound line- to warrant interest by the pofise adminis- backer-tYPe P�3�g upon a 100-pound tration? :. . ` grandmother, exceptionally brave, these ' DENIVIS C.KESSLER SR. two young men. „� . - St.Paul . : ',.' ;� Ovr elderly and our children are being ',�t ;. attacked daily and-we must unite, and ,, _ �°; ,:.�. .�. stand on this issue.� ?� �. ._t - � �� - �� � - � � . .. ... � Avo�dir� - head in`ur _ .. 9� , . 1 Y „� ' � While attempting to apprehend the 6- _ _ foot-4.,230-pound suspect,I fired two shots Recently, Rainsey and GiIIette CP � :� . _ ..�.:.— � z��� ` � a. ..,. 1: ,� � �� '�+;•'. ' .���� _ � ' , , -1 � ��F� � ' `';` '���i��'a � Lr�. — ,_ ` ,.`, . %%�. !. + �l r�s��cr� _�� -1 ,,. . 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The severe topography and structural orientation COUIVCILMEN Requested by Department of: Yeas Nays Fletcher °re1"' In Favor Masanz Nicosia schetbel __ Against BY 7edesco Wilson Form Approved ity Attorney Adopted by Council: Date Certified Yassed by Council Secretary BY sy • Approved by Mavor: Date Approved by or for Submission to Council By - BY