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RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
Green Sheet # 100401
Presented
Referred To
Committee Date
i BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the February 1,
2 200Q decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Properiy Code Enforcement Appeals for ffie following
3 address:
4 Propertv Appealed
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Ap lne lant
6 624 Suuiuiit Avenue. 576-578 Grand Avenue. 426 Pierce Street; Gwynne Evans
7 1986 St. Clair Avenue. 1765 Randol�h Avenue, 460 Pierce Street
8 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforniiug doors with the following conditions: 1) when the
9 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the
10 building must othenvise be in compliance.
I 1 1319 Grand Avenue Marie V. Heckel
12 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforming doars with the following condifions: 1) when the
13 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they wiil be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the
14 building must otherwise be in compliance.
15 1646 Selbv Avenue Sazah Close
16 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the
17 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2} the
18 building must otherwise be in compliance.
19 1585 Rice Street Patrick Donahue for Community Options
20 Decision: Variance g�anted on the nonconfornvng doors with the follownag conditions: 1) when the
21 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with confomung fire rated doors, 2) the
22 building must otherwise be in compliance.
23 550 Wheeler Street North Paul Huot for Huot Manufachu•uig Company.
24 Decision: The owner has until December 31, 2000, to replace the combustible storage containers with non
25 combustible storage containers above the top rack.
26 661 Lincoln Avenue Lany Rantapaa
27 Decision: Variance granted on the legal escape windows in both sleeping rooms of Unit #3 with the following
28 condition: when the building is under rehabilitation, the windows must be brought up to code.
29 906 Beech Street. Lower Unit Wendy Sawyer
30 Decision: Lay over to the Fabraary 15 Property Code Enforcement meering.
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Approved 6y Mayor: \ l ��1 � ��cs'(1
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Requested by DeparUnent of:
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Form Approved by City Attorney
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Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
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City Council Offices
Gerry Strathman, 266-8560
February 9, 2000
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Approving the decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code Enforcement
appeals for the following addresses: 624 Summit Avenue, 576-578 Grand Avenue, 426 Pierce
Street, 1986 St. Clair Avenue, 1765 Randolph Avenue, 460 Pierce Street, 1319 Grand Avenue,
1646 Selby Avenue, 1585 Rice Street, 550 Wheeler Street North, 661 Lincoln Avenue,
906 Beech Street, Lower Unit.
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NOTES OF T'FIE PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING
Tuesday, February 1, 2000
Room 330 Courthouse
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Heaziug Officer
The meeting was called to order at 132 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Mike Urmann, Fire Prevention; Sherry Wings, Fire Prevention
624 Summit Avenue, 576-578 Grand Avenue. 426 Pierce Street.1986 St. Clair Aveuue,
1765 Randolph Avenue. 460 Pierce Street
Gwymie Evans, owner, appeared and stated she is seeking a variance on the 20 minute fire rated
doors on all the addresses listed above.
Mike Urmann stated he has no objection to an appeal on the doors on all six addresses; however,
there aze outstanding items on the Summit, Grand, and Pierce buildings that would need to be
completed before the appeal comes into effect.
Ms. Evans stated 624 Sttmmit is a lazge Victorian building, and it is taking her longer to
rehabilitate it. She does good work and more than what the City asks her to do.
Mr. Strathman stated he is concerned about one of the items which calls for a smoke detector.
Ms. Evans responded that is done.
What is the condition of the building, asked Mr. Strathman. Mr. Urmann responded the last time
he saw it was a couple of months ago. The owner does beautiful work in the buildings.
Ms. Evans stated Mr. Urmann's intention is to close the building down. He has been difficult to
work with in especting work to be done in a particular tnne. Mr. Urmann responded he is
following the City ordinances, policies, and procedures in enforcing the code. This building's
status is under revocarion. That is not Ms. Evans fault because the building was in bad shape
when she purchased it. The only way Mr. Urmann can accept an appeal on the doors is if the rest
of the building is in compliance. His intention is not to close down the building down, but to
keep it in minimum code compliance as the City requires.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with confonniug
fire rated doors, 2) the buildings must otherwise be in compliance. He understands Mr. Urmann
to say that he will not take any action at this time in withdrawing the certificate of occupancy or
condeimiing the building.
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PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTES OF 2-1-2000 Page 2
1319 Grand Avenue
Bemazd Sieleni, representing Marie V. Heckel, appeared and requested a variance for fire rated
doors.
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal.
Cerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconfomung doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconfonunig doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
1646 Selby Avenue
(No one appeazed representing the property; however, tenant Sazah Close appeazed toward the
end of the meeting.)
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal and told the owner it was not necessary
to appear at this heazing.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconfotming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
1585 Rice Street
(No one appeared representing the properry.)
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
550 Wheeler Street North
Paul Huot, representing Huot Manufacturing Company, appeared and stated he has a 9,000
square foot warehouse attached to the manufacturing plant. It was built in 1966. It has 25 foot
high ceilings, and the lowest point under beam is 20 feet. There is racking in the building.
Metals parts aze stored there. (Mr. Huot showed an example of what is stored,) The top rack
bottom beam is 14 feet and they store above that steel beam. The inspector Sherry Wings cited
them for having storage without a sprinkling system above 12 to 15 feet. They have been
discussing ways to conect the situation: adding a sprinkler system or switching to non
flauunable containers above the 15 foot level. Mr. Huot would like to ask for a variance because
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the building has been there for a long time and the eapensive cost. The sprinkler system and the
pipes would be $82,000. The 440 electrical is not available in this area so he is not awaze of the
cost.
Gerry Strathman asked what kind of containers aze there now. Mr. Huot responded corrugated
and wood wire bound containers. The cost would be $22,000 to $32,000 plus revamping the
wazehouse. It would take 50 hours to move the materials azound. As for the sprinkler system,
there is not the water pressure on Wheeler Street to maintain a steady flow. Special pumping
would have to be installed.
Sherry Wings reported Mr. Huot asked for a yeaz estension, but her supervisor was more in favor
of a six month eatension. The owner feels he cannot make a six month time limit. And run the
business on top of that, added Mr. Huot.
Mr. Strathman asked about the fire risk. Ms. Wings responded these are non combustible
products, but they are in combustible containers on wood pallets on metal racking. Steel buckles
a lot better than wood when heat is transferred onto it. Packaging itself will spread the fire. T4ie
code allows for up to 12 feet; the top beam of the rack is at 14. There is a lot of paper there. It is
a moderate fire danger.
Would a fire in this situation be difficult to fight or normal, asked Mr. Strathman. Ms. Wings
responded it is a clean warehouse. It would be a moderate risk.
If he were to address some of the combusfible storage containers, that would go enough distance
towards addressing fire safety, asked Mr. Strathman. Ms. Wings responded yes, anything over
12 feet in noncombustible containers and noncombustible items would be okay. Mr. Huot stated
he would need the time to do this. This warehouse was just moved azound somewhat so he has
an idea of how long it takes to do these things. It will take ten weeks just to get the containers.
Gerry Strathman granted an extension to December 31, 2000, to replace the combustible storage
containers with non combustible storage containers above the top rack. The owner is committed
to addressing the problem and this does not appeaz to be an ea�tremely high hazard situation.
661 Lincoln Avenue
Larry Rantapaa, owner, appeazed and stated this is a three unit building. It was probably
originally a duplex. He has had the building since 1979, and the Third Floor has always been a
legai apartment. It has been through numerous certificate of occupancy inspections and has
always passed. During the last inspection, the inspector cited the sleeping rooms on the Third
Floor for not hauing legal size egress windows. The windows are original. They aze two sma11
windows side by side with a mullion in between. According to the inspector, he could comply
with the regulations by opening up 50% of the walls to make an alcove; however, that would
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destroy the look of the room. There aze legal egress windows in the apartment: five in the front,
two in the reaz.
Gerry Strathman asked could a person get out of the windows. Mr. Rantapaa responded he has
gotten out of the window. A firefighter with equipment may haue to use an ax to destroy the
mullion in beriveen.
Mike Urmann reported that opening up the wall by 50% would make it part of the room next to it
which has a legal escape window. The minimum height and width of the rivo windows side by
side sfill does not meet the size of a legal escape window.
Mr. Strathman stated if someone got out of this window, they could leap three stories or have a
firefighter get them out the window. Mr. Urmann responded that is correct. Mr. Rantapaa
responded in one case, the window goes out onto the roof. At another window, there would be a
drop to a second story porch; the rear window would be a drop to a porch roof. There is also an
escape from the third floor, which is a trap door ladder that goes down the sYairwell. Under the
windows in question, there is a straight drop. There is another building nest door; a firefighter
would probably try to enter &om the adjacent roof.
Did he consider installing a different window, asked Mr. Strathman. Mr. Rantapaa responded the
cost of doing that may be in the thousands.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the legal escape windows in both sleeping rooms of Unit
#3 with the following condition: when the building is under rehabilitafion, the windows must be
brought up to code. The Fire Department is conect, but he understands how the own�er does not
want to tear down interior walls. If firefighters needed to enter this, they would haue no trouble
getting in with equipment on hand. Also, a three story drop is not an appealing egress. The
aparhnent has hard wired smoke detectors and there is a sprinkler system in the basement, added
Mr. Rantapaa.
906 Beech Street, Lower Unit
Valerie Tremelat, Southern Mninesota Regional Legal Services, representing Wendy Sawyer,
appeazed and stated it is her understanding that Pat Fish had requested a layover of this matter.
Gerry Strathman laid over to the February 15 Property Code Enforcement meeting.
The meeting was adjoutned at 2:12 p.m.
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Council File # 00 • \\
0'R1G1NA�,
RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
Green Sheet # 100401
Presented
Referred To
Committee Date
i BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the February 1,
2 200Q decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Properiy Code Enforcement Appeals for ffie following
3 address:
4 Propertv Appealed
��
Ap lne lant
6 624 Suuiuiit Avenue. 576-578 Grand Avenue. 426 Pierce Street; Gwynne Evans
7 1986 St. Clair Avenue. 1765 Randol�h Avenue, 460 Pierce Street
8 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforniiug doors with the following conditions: 1) when the
9 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the
10 building must othenvise be in compliance.
I 1 1319 Grand Avenue Marie V. Heckel
12 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforming doars with the following condifions: 1) when the
13 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they wiil be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the
14 building must otherwise be in compliance.
15 1646 Selbv Avenue Sazah Close
16 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the
17 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2} the
18 building must otherwise be in compliance.
19 1585 Rice Street Patrick Donahue for Community Options
20 Decision: Variance g�anted on the nonconfornvng doors with the follownag conditions: 1) when the
21 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with confomung fire rated doors, 2) the
22 building must otherwise be in compliance.
23 550 Wheeler Street North Paul Huot for Huot Manufachu•uig Company.
24 Decision: The owner has until December 31, 2000, to replace the combustible storage containers with non
25 combustible storage containers above the top rack.
26 661 Lincoln Avenue Lany Rantapaa
27 Decision: Variance granted on the legal escape windows in both sleeping rooms of Unit #3 with the following
28 condition: when the building is under rehabilitation, the windows must be brought up to code.
29 906 Beech Street. Lower Unit Wendy Sawyer
30 Decision: Lay over to the Fabraary 15 Property Code Enforcement meering.
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Yeas Na s Absent
Blakey �
Coleman ✓
Harris �
Benanav �
Reiter
Bostrom �
L�m ✓
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Adopted by Council: Date ��� ,� �.,� O Z?
Adoption Ce fied by Council Secretary
BY� � �1 �..-$.,,�_��
Approved 6y Mayor: \ l ��1 � ��cs'(1
By:
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Requested by DeparUnent of:
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Form Approved by City Attorney
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Approved by Mayor for Submission to Council
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City Council Offices
Gerry Strathman, 266-8560
February 9, 2000
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Approving the decisions of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Property Code Enforcement
appeals for the following addresses: 624 Summit Avenue, 576-578 Grand Avenue, 426 Pierce
Street, 1986 St. Clair Avenue, 1765 Randolph Avenue, 460 Pierce Street, 1319 Grand Avenue,
1646 Selby Avenue, 1585 Rice Street, 550 Wheeler Street North, 661 Lincoln Avenue,
906 Beech Street, Lower Unit.
PLANNING CAMMISSION
CIB CAMMI'TTEE
CIVIL SERVICE CAMMISSION
117d•,1J:Z•1�iy�7
TRANSACTION
rlac mie persorvArm o.er ww�cea under a cowact m mie departrnem9
YES No
tias Mis cenoMrm e.er been a dty empbyx9 ,
YES NO
Dcea this persoMrm posceas a slall no[ nama��YY�eeseeU Dy �Y arteM dtY �nDbY�?
YES NO
Is Mis peraoNfinn a targetetl Ve1doY7
YES I�
� all ves answers an semiate aheet and attec� to oreen sheet
,b,�aQ�`w11 ����,��'S
6 £ 63 � � �85�U
COSTIREVENUE BUOGH7m (CIRCLE ONE)
YEE NO
ACTNITY NUMBER
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NOTES OF T'FIE PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING
Tuesday, February 1, 2000
Room 330 Courthouse
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Heaziug Officer
The meeting was called to order at 132 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Mike Urmann, Fire Prevention; Sherry Wings, Fire Prevention
624 Summit Avenue, 576-578 Grand Avenue. 426 Pierce Street.1986 St. Clair Aveuue,
1765 Randolph Avenue. 460 Pierce Street
Gwymie Evans, owner, appeared and stated she is seeking a variance on the 20 minute fire rated
doors on all the addresses listed above.
Mike Urmann stated he has no objection to an appeal on the doors on all six addresses; however,
there aze outstanding items on the Summit, Grand, and Pierce buildings that would need to be
completed before the appeal comes into effect.
Ms. Evans stated 624 Sttmmit is a lazge Victorian building, and it is taking her longer to
rehabilitate it. She does good work and more than what the City asks her to do.
Mr. Strathman stated he is concerned about one of the items which calls for a smoke detector.
Ms. Evans responded that is done.
What is the condition of the building, asked Mr. Strathman. Mr. Urmann responded the last time
he saw it was a couple of months ago. The owner does beautiful work in the buildings.
Ms. Evans stated Mr. Urmann's intention is to close the building down. He has been difficult to
work with in especting work to be done in a particular tnne. Mr. Urmann responded he is
following the City ordinances, policies, and procedures in enforcing the code. This building's
status is under revocarion. That is not Ms. Evans fault because the building was in bad shape
when she purchased it. The only way Mr. Urmann can accept an appeal on the doors is if the rest
of the building is in compliance. His intention is not to close down the building down, but to
keep it in minimum code compliance as the City requires.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with confonniug
fire rated doors, 2) the buildings must otherwise be in compliance. He understands Mr. Urmann
to say that he will not take any action at this time in withdrawing the certificate of occupancy or
condeimiing the building.
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PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTES OF 2-1-2000 Page 2
1319 Grand Avenue
Bemazd Sieleni, representing Marie V. Heckel, appeared and requested a variance for fire rated
doors.
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal.
Cerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconfomung doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconfonunig doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
1646 Selby Avenue
(No one appeazed representing the property; however, tenant Sazah Close appeazed toward the
end of the meeting.)
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal and told the owner it was not necessary
to appear at this heazing.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconfotming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
1585 Rice Street
(No one appeared representing the properry.)
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
550 Wheeler Street North
Paul Huot, representing Huot Manufacturing Company, appeared and stated he has a 9,000
square foot warehouse attached to the manufacturing plant. It was built in 1966. It has 25 foot
high ceilings, and the lowest point under beam is 20 feet. There is racking in the building.
Metals parts aze stored there. (Mr. Huot showed an example of what is stored,) The top rack
bottom beam is 14 feet and they store above that steel beam. The inspector Sherry Wings cited
them for having storage without a sprinkling system above 12 to 15 feet. They have been
discussing ways to conect the situation: adding a sprinkler system or switching to non
flauunable containers above the 15 foot level. Mr. Huot would like to ask for a variance because
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PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTES OF 2-1-2000 Page 3
the building has been there for a long time and the eapensive cost. The sprinkler system and the
pipes would be $82,000. The 440 electrical is not available in this area so he is not awaze of the
cost.
Gerry Strathman asked what kind of containers aze there now. Mr. Huot responded corrugated
and wood wire bound containers. The cost would be $22,000 to $32,000 plus revamping the
wazehouse. It would take 50 hours to move the materials azound. As for the sprinkler system,
there is not the water pressure on Wheeler Street to maintain a steady flow. Special pumping
would have to be installed.
Sherry Wings reported Mr. Huot asked for a yeaz estension, but her supervisor was more in favor
of a six month eatension. The owner feels he cannot make a six month time limit. And run the
business on top of that, added Mr. Huot.
Mr. Strathman asked about the fire risk. Ms. Wings responded these are non combustible
products, but they are in combustible containers on wood pallets on metal racking. Steel buckles
a lot better than wood when heat is transferred onto it. Packaging itself will spread the fire. T4ie
code allows for up to 12 feet; the top beam of the rack is at 14. There is a lot of paper there. It is
a moderate fire danger.
Would a fire in this situation be difficult to fight or normal, asked Mr. Strathman. Ms. Wings
responded it is a clean warehouse. It would be a moderate risk.
If he were to address some of the combusfible storage containers, that would go enough distance
towards addressing fire safety, asked Mr. Strathman. Ms. Wings responded yes, anything over
12 feet in noncombustible containers and noncombustible items would be okay. Mr. Huot stated
he would need the time to do this. This warehouse was just moved azound somewhat so he has
an idea of how long it takes to do these things. It will take ten weeks just to get the containers.
Gerry Strathman granted an extension to December 31, 2000, to replace the combustible storage
containers with non combustible storage containers above the top rack. The owner is committed
to addressing the problem and this does not appeaz to be an ea�tremely high hazard situation.
661 Lincoln Avenue
Larry Rantapaa, owner, appeazed and stated this is a three unit building. It was probably
originally a duplex. He has had the building since 1979, and the Third Floor has always been a
legai apartment. It has been through numerous certificate of occupancy inspections and has
always passed. During the last inspection, the inspector cited the sleeping rooms on the Third
Floor for not hauing legal size egress windows. The windows are original. They aze two sma11
windows side by side with a mullion in between. According to the inspector, he could comply
with the regulations by opening up 50% of the walls to make an alcove; however, that would
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PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTES OF 2-1-2000 Page 4
destroy the look of the room. There aze legal egress windows in the apartment: five in the front,
two in the reaz.
Gerry Strathman asked could a person get out of the windows. Mr. Rantapaa responded he has
gotten out of the window. A firefighter with equipment may haue to use an ax to destroy the
mullion in beriveen.
Mike Urmann reported that opening up the wall by 50% would make it part of the room next to it
which has a legal escape window. The minimum height and width of the rivo windows side by
side sfill does not meet the size of a legal escape window.
Mr. Strathman stated if someone got out of this window, they could leap three stories or have a
firefighter get them out the window. Mr. Urmann responded that is correct. Mr. Rantapaa
responded in one case, the window goes out onto the roof. At another window, there would be a
drop to a second story porch; the rear window would be a drop to a porch roof. There is also an
escape from the third floor, which is a trap door ladder that goes down the sYairwell. Under the
windows in question, there is a straight drop. There is another building nest door; a firefighter
would probably try to enter &om the adjacent roof.
Did he consider installing a different window, asked Mr. Strathman. Mr. Rantapaa responded the
cost of doing that may be in the thousands.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the legal escape windows in both sleeping rooms of Unit
#3 with the following condition: when the building is under rehabilitafion, the windows must be
brought up to code. The Fire Department is conect, but he understands how the own�er does not
want to tear down interior walls. If firefighters needed to enter this, they would haue no trouble
getting in with equipment on hand. Also, a three story drop is not an appealing egress. The
aparhnent has hard wired smoke detectors and there is a sprinkler system in the basement, added
Mr. Rantapaa.
906 Beech Street, Lower Unit
Valerie Tremelat, Southern Mninesota Regional Legal Services, representing Wendy Sawyer,
appeazed and stated it is her understanding that Pat Fish had requested a layover of this matter.
Gerry Strathman laid over to the February 15 Property Code Enforcement meeting.
The meeting was adjoutned at 2:12 p.m.
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Council File # 00 • \\
0'R1G1NA�,
RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
Green Sheet # 100401
Presented
Referred To
Committee Date
i BE IT RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint Paul hereby certifies and approves the February 1,
2 200Q decision of the Legislative Hearing Officer on Properiy Code Enforcement Appeals for ffie following
3 address:
4 Propertv Appealed
��
Ap lne lant
6 624 Suuiuiit Avenue. 576-578 Grand Avenue. 426 Pierce Street; Gwynne Evans
7 1986 St. Clair Avenue. 1765 Randol�h Avenue, 460 Pierce Street
8 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforniiug doors with the following conditions: 1) when the
9 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the
10 building must othenvise be in compliance.
I 1 1319 Grand Avenue Marie V. Heckel
12 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforming doars with the following condifions: 1) when the
13 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they wiil be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2) the
14 building must otherwise be in compliance.
15 1646 Selbv Avenue Sazah Close
16 Decision: Variance granted on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions: 1) when the
17 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming fire rated doors, 2} the
18 building must otherwise be in compliance.
19 1585 Rice Street Patrick Donahue for Community Options
20 Decision: Variance g�anted on the nonconfornvng doors with the follownag conditions: 1) when the
21 nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with confomung fire rated doors, 2) the
22 building must otherwise be in compliance.
23 550 Wheeler Street North Paul Huot for Huot Manufachu•uig Company.
24 Decision: The owner has until December 31, 2000, to replace the combustible storage containers with non
25 combustible storage containers above the top rack.
26 661 Lincoln Avenue Lany Rantapaa
27 Decision: Variance granted on the legal escape windows in both sleeping rooms of Unit #3 with the following
28 condition: when the building is under rehabilitation, the windows must be brought up to code.
29 906 Beech Street. Lower Unit Wendy Sawyer
30 Decision: Lay over to the Fabraary 15 Property Code Enforcement meering.
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appeals for the following addresses: 624 Summit Avenue, 576-578 Grand Avenue, 426 Pierce
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1646 Selby Avenue, 1585 Rice Street, 550 Wheeler Street North, 661 Lincoln Avenue,
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NOTES OF T'FIE PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING
Tuesday, February 1, 2000
Room 330 Courthouse
Gerry Strathman, Legislative Heaziug Officer
The meeting was called to order at 132 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT: Mike Urmann, Fire Prevention; Sherry Wings, Fire Prevention
624 Summit Avenue, 576-578 Grand Avenue. 426 Pierce Street.1986 St. Clair Aveuue,
1765 Randolph Avenue. 460 Pierce Street
Gwymie Evans, owner, appeared and stated she is seeking a variance on the 20 minute fire rated
doors on all the addresses listed above.
Mike Urmann stated he has no objection to an appeal on the doors on all six addresses; however,
there aze outstanding items on the Summit, Grand, and Pierce buildings that would need to be
completed before the appeal comes into effect.
Ms. Evans stated 624 Sttmmit is a lazge Victorian building, and it is taking her longer to
rehabilitate it. She does good work and more than what the City asks her to do.
Mr. Strathman stated he is concerned about one of the items which calls for a smoke detector.
Ms. Evans responded that is done.
What is the condition of the building, asked Mr. Strathman. Mr. Urmann responded the last time
he saw it was a couple of months ago. The owner does beautiful work in the buildings.
Ms. Evans stated Mr. Urmann's intention is to close the building down. He has been difficult to
work with in especting work to be done in a particular tnne. Mr. Urmann responded he is
following the City ordinances, policies, and procedures in enforcing the code. This building's
status is under revocarion. That is not Ms. Evans fault because the building was in bad shape
when she purchased it. The only way Mr. Urmann can accept an appeal on the doors is if the rest
of the building is in compliance. His intention is not to close down the building down, but to
keep it in minimum code compliance as the City requires.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with confonniug
fire rated doors, 2) the buildings must otherwise be in compliance. He understands Mr. Urmann
to say that he will not take any action at this time in withdrawing the certificate of occupancy or
condeimiing the building.
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1319 Grand Avenue
Bemazd Sieleni, representing Marie V. Heckel, appeared and requested a variance for fire rated
doors.
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal.
Cerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconfomung doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconfonunig doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
1646 Selby Avenue
(No one appeazed representing the property; however, tenant Sazah Close appeazed toward the
end of the meeting.)
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal and told the owner it was not necessary
to appear at this heazing.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconfotming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
1585 Rice Street
(No one appeared representing the properry.)
Mike Urmann reported he had no objection to an appeal.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the nonconforming doors with the following conditions:
1) when the nonconforming doors need to be replaced, they will be replaced with conforming
fire rated doors, 2) the building must otherwise be in compliance.
550 Wheeler Street North
Paul Huot, representing Huot Manufacturing Company, appeared and stated he has a 9,000
square foot warehouse attached to the manufacturing plant. It was built in 1966. It has 25 foot
high ceilings, and the lowest point under beam is 20 feet. There is racking in the building.
Metals parts aze stored there. (Mr. Huot showed an example of what is stored,) The top rack
bottom beam is 14 feet and they store above that steel beam. The inspector Sherry Wings cited
them for having storage without a sprinkling system above 12 to 15 feet. They have been
discussing ways to conect the situation: adding a sprinkler system or switching to non
flauunable containers above the 15 foot level. Mr. Huot would like to ask for a variance because
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the building has been there for a long time and the eapensive cost. The sprinkler system and the
pipes would be $82,000. The 440 electrical is not available in this area so he is not awaze of the
cost.
Gerry Strathman asked what kind of containers aze there now. Mr. Huot responded corrugated
and wood wire bound containers. The cost would be $22,000 to $32,000 plus revamping the
wazehouse. It would take 50 hours to move the materials azound. As for the sprinkler system,
there is not the water pressure on Wheeler Street to maintain a steady flow. Special pumping
would have to be installed.
Sherry Wings reported Mr. Huot asked for a yeaz estension, but her supervisor was more in favor
of a six month eatension. The owner feels he cannot make a six month time limit. And run the
business on top of that, added Mr. Huot.
Mr. Strathman asked about the fire risk. Ms. Wings responded these are non combustible
products, but they are in combustible containers on wood pallets on metal racking. Steel buckles
a lot better than wood when heat is transferred onto it. Packaging itself will spread the fire. T4ie
code allows for up to 12 feet; the top beam of the rack is at 14. There is a lot of paper there. It is
a moderate fire danger.
Would a fire in this situation be difficult to fight or normal, asked Mr. Strathman. Ms. Wings
responded it is a clean warehouse. It would be a moderate risk.
If he were to address some of the combusfible storage containers, that would go enough distance
towards addressing fire safety, asked Mr. Strathman. Ms. Wings responded yes, anything over
12 feet in noncombustible containers and noncombustible items would be okay. Mr. Huot stated
he would need the time to do this. This warehouse was just moved azound somewhat so he has
an idea of how long it takes to do these things. It will take ten weeks just to get the containers.
Gerry Strathman granted an extension to December 31, 2000, to replace the combustible storage
containers with non combustible storage containers above the top rack. The owner is committed
to addressing the problem and this does not appeaz to be an ea�tremely high hazard situation.
661 Lincoln Avenue
Larry Rantapaa, owner, appeazed and stated this is a three unit building. It was probably
originally a duplex. He has had the building since 1979, and the Third Floor has always been a
legai apartment. It has been through numerous certificate of occupancy inspections and has
always passed. During the last inspection, the inspector cited the sleeping rooms on the Third
Floor for not hauing legal size egress windows. The windows are original. They aze two sma11
windows side by side with a mullion in between. According to the inspector, he could comply
with the regulations by opening up 50% of the walls to make an alcove; however, that would
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destroy the look of the room. There aze legal egress windows in the apartment: five in the front,
two in the reaz.
Gerry Strathman asked could a person get out of the windows. Mr. Rantapaa responded he has
gotten out of the window. A firefighter with equipment may haue to use an ax to destroy the
mullion in beriveen.
Mike Urmann reported that opening up the wall by 50% would make it part of the room next to it
which has a legal escape window. The minimum height and width of the rivo windows side by
side sfill does not meet the size of a legal escape window.
Mr. Strathman stated if someone got out of this window, they could leap three stories or have a
firefighter get them out the window. Mr. Urmann responded that is correct. Mr. Rantapaa
responded in one case, the window goes out onto the roof. At another window, there would be a
drop to a second story porch; the rear window would be a drop to a porch roof. There is also an
escape from the third floor, which is a trap door ladder that goes down the sYairwell. Under the
windows in question, there is a straight drop. There is another building nest door; a firefighter
would probably try to enter &om the adjacent roof.
Did he consider installing a different window, asked Mr. Strathman. Mr. Rantapaa responded the
cost of doing that may be in the thousands.
Gerry Strathman granted a variance on the legal escape windows in both sleeping rooms of Unit
#3 with the following condition: when the building is under rehabilitafion, the windows must be
brought up to code. The Fire Department is conect, but he understands how the own�er does not
want to tear down interior walls. If firefighters needed to enter this, they would haue no trouble
getting in with equipment on hand. Also, a three story drop is not an appealing egress. The
aparhnent has hard wired smoke detectors and there is a sprinkler system in the basement, added
Mr. Rantapaa.
906 Beech Street, Lower Unit
Valerie Tremelat, Southern Mninesota Regional Legal Services, representing Wendy Sawyer,
appeazed and stated it is her understanding that Pat Fish had requested a layover of this matter.
Gerry Strathman laid over to the February 15 Property Code Enforcement meeting.
The meeting was adjoutned at 2:12 p.m.
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