85-445 WHITE - CITV CLERK
PINK -�FINANCE I TY O F SA I NT PA LT L Council ��
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BtUE - MAYOR File NO.
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Cou cil Resolution
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Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
WHEREAS, Patr'ck Ca lone, 203 Forbes Avenue, Saint Paul,
Minnesota 55102, m de ap lication for an amended site plan revie
for a two-story wo d fra e residential structure which the appli
cant had moved on o pro erty located at 383 West Seventh Street,
Saint Paul, Minnes ta, a d which proposal was denied by the Plan ing
Administrator on J nuary 2, 1985; and
WHEREAS, Patr ck Ca lone duly filed for an appeal to the Ci y
Council from the d nial ade by the Planning Administrator; and
WHEREAS, The ity C uncil did conduct a public hearing on t is
appeal on Thursday Marc 7, 1985 wherein the Council heard fro
Chalres L. McGuire Prin cpal Planner, Patrick Carlone, Appellan ,
and Randall Tigue, attor ey for Patrick Carlone; and
WHEREAS, The ounci having heard from the respective parti s,
having considered he ev dence and arguments as submitted, and
based upon the tes imony and the record, does hereby adopt the
following findings conc usions and order:
FINDINGS OF FACT �
1. Sometime n Apr' l or May, 1984, Patrick Carlone notifi d
the City that he h d acq ired a house from the State of Minneso a,
the house being lo ated rom the High Bridge area, and that he
sought permission o mov the said structure to property he own
at Smith, Forbes a d Wes Seventh Streets in the City of Saint aul.
Mr. Carlone was ad ised o present a proposed site plan as a pr -
requisite to the i suanc of any permits.
2 . A site pl n rev'ew application was made on May 14, 198
with the Planning ivisi n.
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3. On May 1 , 198 the City Traffic Engineer replied as t
the proposed site plan hat it was unsatisfactory because of in
adequate parking nd ma euvering space.
4 . On May 2 , 198 Mr. Carlone was notified by the Planni g
Division that he ust s pply a floor plan for the structure so
that the Division would be able to determine what the off-stree
parking requireme ts wo ld be for the structure and the uses pr -
posed for the str cture.
5. Mr. Carl ne wa notified by letter dated June 5, 1984
that his applicat ' on fo site plan approval was rejected for th
following stated easons:
a) The shape and rea of the site is not adequate to
provide s ace or required off-street parking,
vehicula mane ering and a structure of the size
indicated in th proposal.
b) The lot a d bui ding dimensions provided on the plan
do not ap ear t be accurate. Further, the floor
plan for se of the structure does not provide
sufficien ly de ailed information about the pro-
posed use of a 1 floor areas. This data is neces-
sary to c mpute accurate parking requirements.
c) Our desig staf reviewer indicates that the struc-
ture whic you ropose to place on this site will
require a large site of more regular shape for
adequate iting It is our finding that your
proposal oes n t observe the provisions of the
Zoning Co e.
6 . On July 3 1984 Mr. Carlone re-submitted his plan whi h
was basically the ame a the previous plan with the exception at
it did not co.ntain the p oposed basement entrance shown on the
original plan.
7 . On July 1 th an based on the second submitted plan, th
Building and Zonin Code Division determined that a total of six
off-street parking space would be required based on the propose
retail area (three parki g spaces) , office area (one parking spa e)
and single family eside tial use of the upper floor (two parkin
spaces) .
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8. The Traf ic En ineer on July 25, 1984 indicated that h
would approve the submi ted plan with certain conditions to be et
first.
9 . The Plan ing Di ision notified Mr. Carlone by letter
dated August 3, 1984 th t the submitted site plan did not conta n
sufficient details whic must be supplied before the review cou d
be completed. The lette stated that the Division could approv
a site plan upon s tisfa tory resolution of the following eight
conditions and fil 'ng of a satisfactory performance bond:
(1) The ive f ot height above grade that you propase
for the firs floo is inappropriate and inconsistent wit
existing str cture along West Seventh. The proposed han i-
cap access, hen b ilt to code specifications, would nece -
sitate an un suall long ramp construction. Applicant
will present proof as to why structure cannot be placed
on a foundat' on 18 to 36 inches above present grade of
sidewalk. I prop sed height is determined to be neces-
sary, then a plica t must sub�nit elevation views of both
the building and t e ramp. Drawing must include dimen-
sions for he 'ght o foundation above grade and total
height of st uctur .
(2) Side alks nd curbs for entire site must be re-
constructed. Curb cut shall be moved to accommodate
vehicle mane verin s on property (see drawing) . All
work must be compl ted in accordance with city speci-
fications an unde a permit issued by the City Sidewalk
Section of t e Dep rtment of Public Works. Contact
Hartley Thom s at 92-6278 for further details.
(3) Boul vard reas, where applicable, shall be
sodded and i clude the planting of two Columnare Norway
Maple trees long mith Avenue, and two June Bride
Little Leaf inden trees along Forbes Avenue (see
drawing for pprox mate location af trees) . Applicant
must verify inal ocation of trees with City Forester.
The trees, a minim m of 2 ' 1/2" caliper trunk size, must
be planted u der a permit issued by the Forestry Mainten-
ance Section of th Department of Parks and Recreation.
Contact Ed O son a 4$8-7291 for further planting
instructions
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_ (4) Hed e Arb rvitae, planted as shown on drawing
and anaintai ed to height of 3 ' , shall act as a visual
screen to p event the headlights of vehicles using
the handica space fram shining into oncoming west-
bound traffi .
(5) The arki lot shall be paved with asphalt.
Bituminous c rbing or cement wheel-stops shall be
employed ar nd pe imeter of paved surface to prevent
vehicle enc achzne t into city rights-of-way and land-
scape areas. The arking lot must be striped according
to enclosed rawin .
(6) The ear a ea of the building alonc� ;F9r.bes must b
designated " o par ing" to allow vehicles to perform
entering and exiti g maneuvers on-site. Trash con-
tainers shal be 1 cated in this area along S�nith
Avenue but m st no hinder or obstruct vehicle move-
ments. A 6 ' wood bscuring fence shall enclose this
area along S ith a d Forbes (see attached drawing for
specifics) .
(7) The ix re uired off-street parking spaces are
based upon t e pro osed commercial use of the first
floor and th anti ipated residential use of the second
floor. The aseme t must be used for storage only. No
commercial o resi ential activities will be permitted.
(8) The uildi g "foot print" on the plan does not
confor�n to t at of the actual building. Plans must in-
clude an out ine o the building accurately drawn and
dimensioned.
10 . Mr. Car one s bmitted a plan to the city on August 6,
1984, but was advi ed by letter dated August 16, 1984 that the lan
was not adequate b cause it did not address the concerns and
conditions for aPp oval et forth in the August 3, 1984 letter f
the City.
11. August 1 , 198 Mr. Carlone submitted another revised
site plan which sh w�d s me of the requested conditions, such a
the handicap ramp ccess to the building.
12 . Mr. Carl ne wa notified �y letter dated August 23, 1 84,
from the Planning ivisi n that his site plan and building perm' t
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would be approved y the City subject to five specific conditio s,
including the mand te that the maximum height of the foundation
above the average ite g ade shall be limited to 2 feet 6 inche
to make the over-a 1 app arance of the structure consistent wit
�:tnes de�e;lQpmen.�t ir�, th� area.
13. Mr. Carl ne ag eed to the conditions set forth in the
August 23, 1984 le ter a d the site plan was approved and the C ty
permits issued whi h all wed Mr. Carlone to �nove the structure nto
the lot in questio .
14. After mo ing t e structure on to the site, Mr. Carlon
on October 5, 1984 wrote the Planning Division for permission t
revise the approve site plan stating as reasons that it was du
to hardship of his elder y and handicapped so he wants to use
ground level as th main floor of the building, and to install
one-stall garage u der t e building.
15. Mr. Carl ne wa notified by letter dated October 18,
1984, addressed to his a torney, that the amended site plan was
not acceptable bec use t e height of the structure was inapprop i-
ate, useable floor space was increased, and the proposed height of
the foundation vio ated he specific condition of his permit in
that it was in exc ss of 2 feet 6 inches.
16 . On Nove er 28 1984 Mr. Carlone again submitted
additional site pl ns an filed a new application for a site pl n
approval.
17 . On Janua y 2, 985 Mr. Carlone was notified that his site
plan was not appro ed be ause it proposed a 9 foot 6 inch foundation
above grade which as co trary to the approved condition allowin
the placement of t e str cture at this site, and the new plan wo ld
be inconsistent wi h the surrounding building arrangements. The
proposed building eight with a 9 foot 6 inch foundation above
grade would exceed the z ning height limitations.
18. Mr. Carl ne fi ed an appeal from this denial of site P an
on February 4 , 198 .
19 . Based on testi ony of Charles P�IcGuire and measurements
submitted by Richa d Tho pson, the Council finds that the height
of the structure, ith t e proposed 9 foot 6 inch foundation abo e
grade, would be 38 feet inches.
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20. All of t e adj cent properties on West Seventh Street
are developed for ommer ial use with one and two story masonry
commercial type st uctur s.
21. Better h ndica access to the structure may be provide
by reducing the pr posed height of the foundation by one or two
feet so as to requ 're a horter access ra�np than incorporated in
the approved site lan.
CONCLUSION
1. Section 6 . 103 ( ) of the Zoning Code prescribed applica le
building height li itati ns for all structures in B-3 zoning
districts to 30 fe t abo e grade plus a distance equal to the
minimum building s tback from all property lines.
2 . The minim set ack proposed by Mr. Carlone ' s site plan
is three feet.
3. Mr. Carlo e' s p operty is within the B-3 zoning distric .
4 . The maxim m bui ding height permitted by section 61.103 (e)
for Mr. Carlone' s truct re and setback is 33 feet.
5. The heigh of h s structure as proposed by his new site
plan exceeds 33 fe t.
6. Mr. Carlo e was made aware of the height limitations an
of the condition t at th foundation height may not exceed two
feet 6 inches prio to h s moving the structure onto the site, an
he accepted that c nditi n by his actions.
7 . The struc ure a proposed in the new site plan is incon is-
tent with the City s Com rehensive Plan, its Fort Road Guideline ,
and Zoning Code.
8. The Plann ng Ad inistrator did not make any error of
fact or law in den ing M . Carlone ' s site plan application.
9 . Any perce bed h rdship that Mr. Carlone may have is sel -
created, and the p opert may be �ut to reasonable uses if he is
required to co�nply with 11 af the conditions set forth in his
approved site plan and b ilding permits heretofore issued.
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WHITE - GITV CLERK
PINK wFINANCE (jI y OF SAINT PAUL Council /
CANARV - DEPARTMENT //�
BLU€ - MAVOR File NO. �`'�J
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C uncil Resolution
Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
ORDER
The Council of th City of Saint Paul does hereby deny th
appeal of Patric Carl ne for the above stated reasons, and do s
hereby order tha the onditions as set forth in the approved ite
plan #959 and bu ' lding ermit #182399 be complied with or the
building be remo d an the property be restored in accordance
with all applicab e ord 'nances and other laws.
Be it Furthe Orde ed, that a copy of this resolution be
mailed to Patrick Carlo e, the Planning Commission, the Zoning
Administrator and the B ard of Zoning Appeals.
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GEORGE LATIMER
MAYOR •
March 7, 1985
Mr. Ed Starr
City Attorney
Room 647, City Ha 1
Dear Sir:
The City Council today, fter public hearing, voted to deny the appeal
of Patrick Carlo e to c sider an administrative decision to deny a sit
plan located at 83 W. th Street, aka part of Lot 7, Blk. 5, Samuel Le ches
Addition, based n find'ngs l through 8 as set out in the report of the
Zoning staff. W 11 you please prepare the proper resolution approving
this action.
ruly urs
A bert B. Olson
City Clerk
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GEORGE LATIMER
MAYOR � ��
February 25, 1985 '
Albert Olson, City lerk
Room 386 City Hall
St. P aul , Minnesot 55102
RE: Site Plan #10 7
Cit Cou cil ublic earin : Februar 28 1985
PURPOSE: To consid r an a peal of an administrative decision to deny a si e
plan.
Dear Sir:
On August 23, 198 , the epartment of Planning and Economic Development
conditionally app oved s te plan #959 that proposed placing a 2 1/2 stor
structure on a fo ndatio two feet six inches above grade at 333 West 7t
Street. On Octob r 5, 1 84, the applicant submitted an amended site pl
proposing to elev te the structure an additional seven feet. On Octobe 18,
1984, the Planni Depar ment rejected the amended site plan advising t at the
file regarding t is site was closed and that all further proposals will
require a new si e plan.
On November 28, 984, t e applicant submitted a new site plan (file #10 7)
proposal to plac the 2 1/2 story structure nine feet six inches above rade.
On January 2, 19 5, the Planning Department notified the applicant tha the
site plan #1057 's unac eptable . The site plan was denied on the gro nds
that the propos 1 excee s building height limitations set by the Zonin Code
and that the pr posal is inconsistent with Comprehensive Plan policies
requiring that ew dev lopment be orderly and consistent with surround ng
building arrang ments.
On February 4, 985, P trick Carlone appealed the planning administra r's
decision conten ing th t 1) there is no legal basis for asserting tha a mix
of residential ood fr me and masonary commercial construction as set forth in
the site plan is unla ul , or in any way in violation of the state or city
building code; and 2) he restriction on height is arbitrary and capr cious,
given the fact that t e proposal is well within height limitations co tained
in St. Paul Le islati e Code Section 62.116.
The review of he afo ementioned case is now complete and I will pre nt a
full report at the Pu lic Hearing scheduled before the City Council n
February 28, 85 or efore the City Development Committee if that i the
wishes of the Council .
Sincerely, , ,
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Fred S. Haide
City Planner
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Attachments
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ZONIPJG STAFF REPORT
FI E # 9114
1 . APPLICANT: PATRI K CARL NE DATE OF HEARING: 2/28/85
2. CLASSIFICATION: dminis rative Review
3. LOCATION: 383 W. 7th (N rth side between Smith and Forbes)
4. LEGAL DESCRIPTION Ex. riangle for street, part NWIy of 7th Street of W.
42.945 of Lot 7, lock 5 Samuel Leeches Addition
5. PRESENT ZONING: -3 ZONING CODE REFERENCE: 64.300, Subd. 1, 64.206
6. STAFF INVESTIGATI & REP RT: DATE 2/14/85 BY Fred S. Hai er
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A. PURPOSE: To consi er an ppeal of an administrative decision to deny si e plan
approval . �
B. AREA & FRONTAGE: riangul r parcel with 100' fronting Forbes Avenue, 94'
�ronting�Smitfi�Ave e, and 132' fronting West 7th Street. The site inclu es
4,700 square feet of land rea.
C. SITE & AREA CONDITI NS: T e site is occupied by a 2 1/2 story residentia
structure�"parke�"� n supp rt beams. The foundation has been poured and oncrete
blocks are stored o the s te.
D. ZONING CODE CITATIO : Sec ion 64.300, Subd. 7 indicates : "The grant or enial
o��approvaT^�y the� lannin commission (or official designee) is subject o
appeal to the city ouncil in accordance with Section 64.206."
Section 64.206 gives the Ci y Council the power of administrative review t hear
and decide appeals ere it is alleged that there is an error in any order,
requirement, permit, decisi n, or refusal made by the Planning Commission r
other administrative offici 1 in carrying out any provision of the Zoning ode.
E. FINDINGS:
1 . On January 2, 19 5, Mr. Charles McGuire notified the appellant that si e plan
#1051 is unaccep able. The site plan was denied on the grounds that t e
proposal exceeds buildi g height limitations set by the Zoning Code an that
the proposal is inconsi tent with Comprehensive Plan policies requirin that
new development order y and consistent with surrounding building
arrangements.
2. Sectlon 61 .103(e) limits the helght of structures in a B-3 zone to 30' bove
grade plus a dist nce eq al to the minimum building setback from all pr perty
lines. The minim m setb ck proposed in site plan #1057 is 3 feet. The
maximum building eight llowed by code is therefore 33 feet.
3. Field investigati n of t e subject property by a building inspector and
zoning staff has erifie that the height of the building excluding
foundation is 28 eet. he placement of the building on 9'6" foundatio , as
proposed on site lan #1 7, would violate height restrictions of the Z ing
Code.
4. The intent and pur ose of the Zoning Code Section 60.101 states in part hat
the Zoning Code is adopte for the following purposes:
a. To regulate th locat on, construction, reconstruction, alteration, nd
use of buildin s, str ctures and land.
b. To fix reasona le sta dards to which buildings, structures and uses hall
conform.
c. To conserve pro erty v lues.
d. To promote and rotect the general welfare of the community.
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e. To prevent he ove crowding of land and buildings.
f. To protect 11 are s of the city from harmful encroachment by
incompatibl uses.
g. To provide enalit es for violations of the provisions of this co e or
amendment.
The administrat ve dec sion to withhold approval of site plan #1057 a pears
to be consisten with he intent and purpose of the Zoning Code.
5. Section 62.108, Subd. states in part that in order to approve the site
plan, the Planning Administrator shall consider and find that the sit plan
is consistent with the City's adopted Comprehensive Plan and project lans
for sub-areas o the City (i .e. , Fort Road Guidelines) and preserve t
historically si ifican characteristics of the City and environmental y
sensitive areas.
On August 21 , 19 4, Law ence Soderholm, Acting Planning Administrator,
reviewed site pl n #105 with the appellant and Charles McGuire to det rmine
the level of com liance with the City's Comprehensive Plan and local
development plan .
6. The Planning Adm nistra or has determined that approving site plan #10 7
would be contr ry to the City's Comprehensive Plan policy 4.2-7 which
promotes enforce ent of the Zoning Code and encourages businesses to m intain
the scale of sur oundin development.
The Planning Adm nistra or has also determined that site plan #1057 is
contrary to the istric 9 recommendation that West 7th commercial are s"
"respect the ex sting tyle of buildings" and "standardization... of facade
proportion.°
7. There is no evid nce tha any City official erroneously applied the co ,
acted in an arbitrary ma ner, or erred in procedure in the decision un r
review.
8. The City has appr ved a ite plan proposed by the appellant (#951). Th's
approval allows a reason ble reuse of the subject building and land. A y
hardship caused b the d nial of site plan #1057 appears to be self-cre ted
as a result of in ensify ng the use of the property.
F. SUMMARY: The Plannin Admin strator is charged with the responsibility to eview
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site p ans for compli nce wi h the Zoning Code and the City's Comprehensive Plan.
All evidence would in icate hat City staff diligently performed their
responsibility in thi case. Mr. Carlone's proposal would violate the sche ule
of regulations pertai ing to allowable building height as well as defy desi n
policies and guidelin s appr priately considered.
G. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Based on findings 1 through 8, staff recommends that the
aecision to�witfifioTa pproval of site plan #1057 be upheld.
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I TERDEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
February 13, 1985
T0: Fred . Haid r
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i FROM: Richa d Thom son
Building Ins ector
; RE: 383 N rth Smith; moved-in building
Confirming our con ersatio , the referenced building was inspected
this date and foun to hav the following dimensions :
19'-4" - Bottom f sidi g to bottom of soffits (measured)
5'-6" - Bottom f eave to midpoint of main roof area
(comput d, ass ming 9 on 12 roof pitch) ,
7'-8" - Bottom f eave to midpoint of highest dormer roof
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APPLICATION FOR APPEAL ZONING OFFICE USE ONLY
CITY OF SAINT PAUL
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Application is hereby mad for a Appeal to the .�-
under the provisions of C apter 4, Section ..���� , P ragrap of the on ng Code
to appeal a decision made by the Board ofi-Zoning Appeals
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Zoning Administrator (date of deci ion)
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C. GROUNDS FOR APPEAL (Us additi nal sheets if necessary. )
(Explain why you feel here has been an error in any requirement, permit, decision
or refusal made by an minist ative official, or an error in fact, procedure or finding
made by the Board of Z ning Ap eals or the Planning Comnission. )
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RANDALL D.B. TIGUE
ATTORNEY AT LAW
Nicollet Avenue Professional Building
' 2620 Nicollet Ave.South
Minneapolis,Minnesota 55408
Telephone:(612)874-9903 -
February 1, 18 85
Mr. Charles L. McGui e
Principal Plan er -- Zoning
St. Paul Depar ment f Planning and
Economic Dev lopme t �
Division of P1 nning
25 West 4th St eet
St. Paul, Minn sota 5102
RE: Cite P an Re iew No. 1057 --
Conver ion��.o an existing two (2) story
wood f amed esidential structure located
at 383 West th Street to a three (3)
story ixed esidential comm�rcial building �.
Dear Mr. McGui e:
Please con�ide this letter to be an administrative appeal
, to the City Co cil rom the decison of the planning depart ent,
' dated January , 198 , denying approval of Mr. Carlone' s
cite plan.
The basis of t e app al is the decision of the Planning Dep rtment
is arbitrary a d cap icious and has no support in fact or 1 w.
Specifically, e ap eal will allege the following:
l. The re is n lega basis for asserting that a mix of
residentia wood frame and masonry commercial construc ion
as set for h in e cite plan is unlawful, or in any wa
in violati n of e state or city building code.
2. The restri tion n height is arbitrary and capricious, �
given the act t at the proposal is well within height
limitation cont ined in St. Paul Legislative Code �62. 16.
Wherefore, Mr. Carlo e requests the St. Paul City Council t
re verse the de ision an d approve the cite plan as originall
submi tted.
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GEORGE LATIMER �
MAYOR
January 2, 19R5
Patrick Carlone
203 Forbes
Saint Paul , Minnesot 55102
RE: Site Plan Revie #1057 - Conversion of an Existing Two (2)
Story Wood Fram d Resi ential Structure located at 383 W.
1th Street to a Three (3) Story Mixed Residential Commercial
Buildinq
Dear Mr. Carlone:
Your request for app oval o the above referenced proposal is hereby denie . .
We find that the cur ent pr posal is inconsistent with the surroundina bui ding
arrangements and may dvers ly impact abutting property owners since the p oposal
you show in your pla appea to mix residential wood frame construction w'th
'masonry commercial c struction without any explanation of how these eleme ts
will be integrated t provid an appearance similar to that of adjacent st uctures.
Further, Item �#4 of r lett r to you dated August 23, 1984, specifically imits
height of the founda ion abo e grade to a maximum 2'6". Variations from t at
height limit�will ,no be per itted.
This denial is an ad 'nistra ive decision and may be appealed to the City ouncil
for a period of 3.0 da s from the date of this letter.
If you have any quest'ons, p ease call Larry Zangs at 292-1577.
Sincerely,
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Charles L. McGuire
Principal Planner - Z ning
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MAYOR
October 18, 1984
Mr. Randall B. Ti ue
2620 Nicollet Ave ue
Minneapolis, Minn sota 5408
RE: Site Plan Re iew #9 9 - Request for change to site plan for build ng
at 383 W. Se enth.
Dear Mr. Tigue:
The above referen ed pla submitted by Mr. Carlone on October 5, 1984 s
unacceptable for easons given below:
1 . The height of the st ucture above grade is inappropriate and �
impractical g'ven th limited site area. '
2. It appears th t this proposal would expand useable floor area whic
would require more o -site parking. The site cannot accommodate
additional pa king. �• ' , �
3. The file on t is sit is closed. All further proposals, regarding �
subject prope ty, wi 1 require a new site plan review. Applicant
must submit a new a plication and proper filing fee before th�s ma ter
is considered. ,
4. Item 4 of the lette to Mr. Carlone (dated August 23, 1984)
specifically imits height of the foundation above grade to a maxi um
2' 6". Varia ions f m that height limit will not be permitted.
For reasons give above, approval of this request for change is hereb
denied.
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Please note that this d cision may be appealed by anyone to the
City Council for a peri d of thirty (30) days.
If you have any uestio s , please call Larry Zangs at 292-1577.
Sincerely,
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To: St. Paul Planni g Depa tment Octo er 5, 19�4.
Attn: I,arry Zang
Dear Sir:
Enclosed is a revise plan f our construction building at 3g3 �r7est 7th. S . Pagl.
Due to the hardship f our lderly and handicapped we are using ground lev 1 as
our main flonr of th s buil ing (shown on plan. )
A7so, due to our lim ted p� king area, we are installing a one stall garag under
buildin� ( srown on 1an. )
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; correspondence to ou attor ey. Mr. Randall B. Tigue
2620 Nicollet Ave.
° Minneapolis, N�innesota 554�g•
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, GEORGE LATIMER
MAYOR
August 23, 1984
Patrick Carlone
203 Forbes Avenu
Saint Paul , Minn sota 5 102
RE: Site Plan R view # 59 - Relocation of an Existing �
Building to ite Lo ated at West Seventh and bounded by
Smith Avenue on the West and Forbes Avenue on the North
Dear Mr. Carlone:
We have received perfo mance bond in the amount of $4,000.00 to ensu e
completion of lan scapin improvements, construction of required obscu ing
fence and resurfa ing of parking area.
� We hereby approve the ab ve referenced site plan subject to the followi g
conditions:
1. The parking a ea sha 1 be resurfaced with an asphalt overlay.
Disturbed are s of t e parking lot, due to construction, shall be
properly prep red wi h appropriate base materials before asphalting
2. Landscaping s all be installed as shown on revised plan and include
three (3) Tec ny Hed Arborvitae, planted on corner of property
bounded by Wes Seven h and Forbes.
3. A 6' wood obsc ring f nce shall be constructed to enclose trash
recepticals an vehic e manuevering area. Wood fence shall be of
stockade type r roug sawn cedar (1" x 6" vertical board) .
4. The maximum he'ght of the foundation above the average site grade s all
. be limited to wo fee six inches (2'6") to make the overall appear nce
of the structu e cons stent with other development in the area.
5. The handicap r mp wil be redesigned in accordance with the reduced
foundation hei ht, mu t conform to all aspects of the building code nd
shall be consi tent w th Fort Road Guidelines. Consistency with the e
guidelines wil be de ermined by a designer from the Technical Servi es
section of the Develo ment Division of Saint Paul P.E.D. Call 292-1 77
and ask for Mr Dan B ewer for further information.
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CITY OF SAINT P�1UL
I TERDEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
DATE: August 21 1984
T0: Chuck McG ire
FROM: Larry Sod rholm
RE: Site Plan Review of Patrick Carlone' s Proposed House Move on We t
7th Stree
Yesterday you and I disc ssed the proposed house move while Mr. Carlone
and his housemove were t the zoning counter. We expect them to retur to
find out our deci ion ab ut the site plan today. For the record, I wan
to state the conc rns ab ut Mr. Car�one' s house move that I expressed t
you yesterday mor ing.
1. The aite plan aectio of the Zoning Code states that site plans sha 1
be approved i they onform with the City' s Comprehensive Plan and
development p ana fo sub-a�eas of the city.
The extraordi ary el vation (5 feet) of the proposed foundation for the
house does no confo m to several recommendations made in the city'
adopted Compr hensiv Plan. The citywide land use plan discusses
commercial la d uses along mixed-use strips on page 27. Policy 4.2 2
states that c mpatib e mixed uses along commercial strips will need
the developme t of d sign and performance controls. On the next pa e,
Policy 4.2-7 ays "t e City, through design controls, the zoning an
incentive pro rams, ill encourage businesses to: 1. maintain the
scale of surr unding development".
The preservat on of he historic character of Fort Road and the Wes
7 th Street co ercia strip is stated as policy in the District 9 P an.
On page 12 th plan ays the West 7 th commercial area should retain the
1890s commerc al fro ts directly on the street. On page 30 the pla
discusses des gn in ommercial areas. It says The Fort Road desig
study recomme ds res ecting the existing style of buildings and als
standardizati n of s ch things as colors, awnings, signage, set-bac
and facade pr portio ". (Emphasis added.) Recommendation number 11
says "complia ce wit the Fort Road design study quidelines should e
strongly enco raged henever changes are made on an old building or a
new one is bu lt". ecommendation number 12 says, "Merchants shoul
stress the th me of he historic Fort Road, Gateway to St. Paul, an
use the name ort Ro d instead of West 7 th."
Based on the bove c tations, I do not believe that the proposed he ght
of the founda ion fo Carlone' s house conforms to the Comprehensive
Plane of the ity of St. Paul.
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2. Another of th findi gs required for. site plan approval has to do w th
preservation f uniq e geologic, geographic or historically signifi ant
characteristi s of t e city and environmentally sensitive areas.
The city has pent m llions of dollars trying to improve the
environment o Fort oad based on its historic theme. The first
national hist ric di trict in the City of St. Paul was the Irvine P rk
� Historic Dist ict. t is only one block from the triangle of land n
��,West 7 th that Mr. Ca lone wants to move the house to.
3. '°'Mr. . Carlone as cla' ed to us verbally and in writing that the rea on
he wants the usual foundation is that the site has high limestone
bedrock that s hard to excavate and causes wet basements. In fact,
the building 's bein placed on the site of a large old commercial
building that was de olished years ago. It ha�, I'm told�a full� dee
basement. Mr. Carlo has begun excavation and so far (about 3 feet
deep) has dug up not 'ng but loose sandy fill. I can' t help but har or
the suspicion that Mr. Carlone really objects to building a conventi nal
foundation bec use it would make the basement harder to put to comme cial
or residential use so etime in the future.
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6/2-282-1577
GEORGE UTIMER ���S� ,/5
MAYOR Q Y
August 3, 1984
Patrick Carlone �
203 Forbes Avenu
Saint Paul , Minn sota
RE: Site Plan R view # 59 - Relocation of an Existing
Building to Site L cated at West Seventh and bounded
by Smith Av nue on the West and Forbes Avenue on the
North
Dear Mr. Garlone
The plans for th above referenced site are not sufficiently detailed
Further informat on wil be required before review can be completed.
Consideration of approv 1 will be contingent upon satisfactory resolu ion
of the following condit ons:
1. The five foo heigh above grade that you propose for the first floor is
inappropriat and i consistent with existing structures along Wes
Seventh. Th propo ed handicap access, when built to code specific�tions,
would necess tate a unusually long ramp construction. Applicant ill
present proo as to why structure cannot be placed on a foundation
eighteen to hirty- ix inches above present grade of sidewalk. I
proposed hei ht is etermined to be necessary, then applicant must submit
elevation vi ws of oth the building and the ramp. Drawing must i clude
dimensions f r heig t of foundation above grade and total height o
structure.
2. Sidewalks an curbs f or entire site must be reconstructed. Curb c t
shall be mov d to a comodate vehicle manueverings on property (see
drawing). All work must be completed in accordance with city
specificatio s and nder a permit issued by the City Sidewalk Sect'on of
the Departme t of P blic Works. Contact Hartley Thomas at 292-627 for
further details.
3. Boulevard areas, whe e applicable, shall be sodded and include the
planting of t o Colu nare Norway Maple trees along Smith Avenue, a d two
June Bride �i tle Le f Linden trees along Forbes Avenue (see drawi g for
approximate 1 cation of trees) . Applicant must verify final locat on of
trees with Ci y Fore ter. The trees, a minimum of 2' 1/2" caliper runk
size, must be plante under a permit issued by the Foresty Mainten nce
Section of th Depar ment of Parks and Recreation. Contact Ed Ols n at
488-7291 for urther planting instructions.
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4. Hedge Arborvit e, pla ted as shown on drawing and maintained to hei ht
of 3' , shall a t as a visual screen to prevent the headlights of
vehicles using the ha dicap space from shining into oncoming westbo nd
traffic.
5. The parking lo shall be paved with asphalt. Bituminous curbing or
cement wheel-s ops sh 11 be employed around perimeter of paved surf ce
to prevent veh cle en roachment into city rights-of-way and landsca e
areas. The pa king 1 t must be striped according to enclosed drawi g.
6. The rear area f the uilding along Forbes must be designated "no
parking" to al ow veh cles to perform entering and exiting manuever Qn-
site. Trash c ntaine s shall be located in this area along Smith A enue
but must not h nder o obstruct vehicle movements. A 6' wood obscu ing
fence shall en lose t is area along Smith and Forbes (see attached
drawing for sp cifics .
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7. The six requir d off- treet parking spaces are based upon the propo ed
comnercial use of the first floor and the anticipated residential u e of
the second flo r. Th basement must be used for storage only. No
commercial or esiden ial activities will be permitted.
8. The building " oot pr nt" on the plan does not conform to that of t e
actual buildin . Pla s must include an outline of the building
accurately dra n and imensioned.
If satsifactory re olutio of above conditions can be reached, applican
must submit a perf rmance bond in the amount of $22,000.00, or an irrev cable
letter of credit g od for two years in the amount of $27,500.00, to ens re
provision for land cape a d site improvements. The performance bond an
letter of credit f rms wi 1 be sent to you when this office is assured hat
submitted plans ar in ap rovable form.
If you have any qu stions, please call Lawrence Zangs at 292-1577.
Sincerely,
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25 West Fourth Street,Saint Paul,Minnesota,55102
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GEORGE LATIMER
MAYOR
August 16, 1984
Patrick Carlone
203 Forbes Avenue
Saint Paul , Minne ota
RE: Site Plan Re iew #9 9 - Relocation of an Existing
Building to ite Lo ated at West Seventh and bounded by
Smith Avenue on the West and Forbes Avenue on the North
Dear Mr. Carlone:
This letter serve to fu ther explain the required conditions for appro al
, of your site plan outlin d in the previous letter dated August 3, 1984.
Your latest revis d plan dated August 6, 1984, does not adequately add ess
these conditions.
Applicant must su mit de ailed drawings which show the following:
1. The plan must show a accurately dimensioned outline of the foundat'on
onto which th build ng will be moved, the distance of the foundati n
from all prop rty li es, and any areas where structure will extend
outside of th found tion line. No ortion of this structure shall
extend over a y ubl c property.
2. The floor pla , deta ling proposed main floor uses, shall be includ d
on the plan. Be sur to show room dimensions.
3. Submit south ide an east side elevation drawings, showing buildin
exterior (i .e , wind w and door locations) , and the handicapped acc ss
ramp construc ion in relationship to the building. This must be
dimensioned also. Th materials which will be used to construct the
ramp must be pecifi d on the plan. Please note that the Building ode
requires a fl t resting area for every 30" of rise above the site
grade. The r p its lf must be 48" wide and provided with handrail .
4. Parking stall must e dimensioned according to the following city
standards:
a. 8'6" x 18' for angular parking; and
b. 12' x 18' or han icapped parking.
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The parking a ea sha 1 be paved with a bituminous surface. Al1 par ing
stalls design ted on the site plan must be clearly marked with yell w
or white pain ed str ps. The area between Forbes and the building
, shall be clea ly str ped and marked to prohibit parking. These ite s
must also be learly indicated on the plan.
5. A six foot wo d obsc ring fence shall be constructed along the pro erty
lines on Smit and F rbes. This fence shall begin at the northwes
corner of the buildi g, proceed north to the property corner, and rom
there extend ast to a distance equal to the width of the building
The fence mus be op que when viewed from either street. The fenc
location must also b clearly marked on the site plan.
6. Landscaped ar as mus be clearly marked and dimensioned on the pla .
All grass are s must be sodded and all other plantings specified. The
total landsca ed are must be equal to a minimum of ten percent (1 �)
of the paved urf ace and protected from vehicular encroachment wit
either wheel- tops o continuously rolled bituminous curbing. The site
plan must indicate t e intended locations of all such improvements
Screen planti gs suc as lechy arborvitae or other suitable screen ng
must be provi ed to prevent headlight glare in the evening hours a the
� intersection of For es and West Seventh Street.
7. Grass areas, curbs nd gutters along Smith and Forbes must be rest red.
Integral cur and w lk, 12 feet in width, shall be constructed alo g
West Seventh All ork must be completed in accordance with city
specificatio s and nder a permit issued by the Sidewalk Section o the
Department o Publi Works. Contact Hartley Thomas at 292-6278 fo
' information bout p rmit requirements.
� 8. The improvem nts in city rights-of-way may be done by your own
� contractor, r the ity will issue an order to construct them and
'' assess your ropert for 100% of the improvement costs. Should yo
elect to do he wor yourself, the city will require a performance bond
to ensure th t the mprovements are constructed. The performance ond
will include both t e cost of improvements to public property and he
costs for pa ing an landscaping improvements to your property. T e
' amount of th bond equired would be $22,000.00. If you choose to have
the city con truct he sidewalks, the bond amount would be reduce
accordingly.
i If you have any uestio s, please contact Larry Zangs at 292-1577.
Sincerely,
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; harles McGuire
' Principal Planne - Zon'ng
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CITY O� 5AINT PAUL
(NT RDEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
DATE: Jul 2, 19 4
T0: Cou cilman Jarnes Scheibel
FROM: Charles L. McGuir����
RE: Car one's otique, Site Plan Review #959 and Paragraph 5
of arlone s presentation to the City Council on June 28, 1984
On h1ay 14, 1984, Mr. Patric A. Carlone applied to this section of the P1 nning
Division of P.E.D. f r a si e plan review or� property at 383 West 7th Str et
(Northside between F rbes a d Smith) . This site plan as all such plans s b-
mitted to our office for re ie�v, was sent to seven offices and the planni g
district council for review and comment on May 14 in spite of the fact th t the
information provided on the plan did not appear to be sufficient for thor ugh
evaluation.
On May 30, the revie er for the Design section of P.E.D. subm�tted writte com-
ments indicating his concer s about sight distance and visability, landsc ping
and appearance at th facad s of tPie proposed development. He also indic ted
verbally that it app ared t e structure was too large for a site of this ize
_ and shape. -
On May 17th, we rece ved co ments frorn the traffic engineer in the Depart ent
of Public Works stat"ng tha the plan was unacceptable, since the drivewa was
not properly placed nd it ould be necessary for vehicles to back into t e
street because room n the ite was not adequate to a11ow the car•s to tur around.
On P1ay 3� , the revie er for the Div?si�r. of Housing and S+aildin3 Cc�l� Enf rce-
ment and Inspections indica ed that 11 spaces must be provided for off-st eet
parking, or a varian e from the applicable code provisions souc�ht.
Internally, my staff and I ere concerned by the fact that Mr. Carlone's ite
plan indicated only 64 sq, ft. of a structure having a gross floor area f at
least 3500 sq. ft. w s to b provided with off-street parking space accor ing
to the data availabl for o r review. The structure to be moved to the s te
was a 2 story struct re and a foundation-baseme►�t �vas to extend 5 feet ab ve
grade according to i formation transmitted verbally to staff.
Based u on the abov infor ation an Q
an_y source, I wrote a lett r den in a roval of the site
�ee copy attached). Furt er, I have inquired of other staff known by me to
have been involved in this review as to whether or not they may have bee cor�-
tacted 6y you or an membe of your staff. Al1 have indicated that they ave
had no contact with our o fice concerning this or any other matter regar ing
review of site plan .
CLMcG/bq
cc: Peggy A. Reich rt
James J. Bellu
Lawrence Zangs
Dan Bre���er
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� 203 Forbes Avenue .
� Saint Paul , hiinne ota 55 02.
6 R�: Your request for re iew and approval of site plan for 383 t,�est 7 h St.-
; Reiocation o • 2-sto y struct�re - Our file SPR '�959: Request de ied.
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# We regret to info m you hat we�must deny your request for approval o the
� above referenced ite pl n. The request is denied for thz following
reasons:
1. The shape an area f the �site-is not adequate to' provide space f r
required �ff-street parking, vehicular: maneu��eriny and a structur
of the size indicat d in the proposal .
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2. The lot and uildin, dimznsions provided on the plan do not appea to
. be accurate. Furth r, the floor plan for use of the structure d s
nct provid� �ffici r.tly deta�'led ir.formation about the praposPd
uses of all loor a eas. This data is necessary to compute accu ate
� parking requ rement .
; 3. Our desiqn taff r viearer indicates that the structure wfiich ya propose
! to place on his si e will require a larger site af more regular shdpe
? for adequate siting It is our finding that your proposal does ot
s observe the rovisi ns of the Zoning Code.
� If you have any uestio s pursuant to this matter, please contact me a t
292-1577 ext. 31 .
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G���:��7,[�o��"��' � .
Charles L. McGui e
Principal Planne , toni g � �
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Dear Mr. Hozza:
11-� t-h` Council 1 ee�Lin of July 13 a request �,tas rnade -L-o this
ofii_ce to expla 'n the o�tions avai]_able to the Council in regard
to i_lie Fort Roa guid lines. I hav� -revie��r�d the guidelin s and
dei.`rrn:ined that t11ey � ffect or could afiect sev�ral diiier�.nt
orc�iiiailce.�s of t.} e C:it , i.nc] udi_ng: (1) the Zon?ng Ordinan e, (2}
� ti?: Si.��n O:rc3inat ce, c�_ d (3) the I3er.it������ Preservati.on Ordi ance_
33�c.;iu::�e of t.hc roacl mpact tliese guid�l:ines could have on the
existiiig or.dina ces, would recommend that they be referr d to
th� ll_i_vision of Planii ng for reco?nn�lendations as �o the bes way
oL i:nplem�nL-ing th� g idelirl�s. I'ur_�her, tlie guidelines w uld
ir�pact th� dist ict p �.ns tnat are bei.ng prc�par�d in the D' vision
of Planniiig and ought to be refe.rred to the distri_cts that are
involved sor th-ir in1uL.
1�ccordir_gly, I ave p epared a resolution ior th� Council fiirm-
ing the guideli es an referring tl�em to L-lie Pl�.l�ning llivision �or
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��TIiEREAS, Th ��Tc�st Seventh Stre�:t Area D�velopment Corp ration
has presented gu d�lin s for tlze coTru�n`rcial revitalization ffor-ts
� on ��1est Seventh i�reet called "Fort Road Guidelines" ; and
�91i1�R�;�5, Sa d gui elines are dc�signed to help busi.:Zess s and
residents preser e th� character oE ti•Jest Seventh SLreet and pro-
vide a st'rong, u ified st.reet environment; and
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T��ii-�LkFAS, Th guicl �l._i.nes atf:eci� cxis�tiiZg City ordinance , in-
cluding the Zoni g Ord nanc�, th� Sign Ordinance, ai�d -cl�e H r��.ac,��
Pres�rvat.?on Or.d nance no��, ��zL:r,rrf:o�:e, �� it
R'r�SOLVED BY THE C UNCIL OF T'tIr� C1':�Y 01' SAl�'`_t' PnliL:
1_ That th For t Road guidelines are hereb_y ericlorsed y the
Council;
2 . �I'hat th Fort Road guid�lin�s are hereby re�_e?-red ' o tti�
llivisi.on o.f 1'lani ing f r its considerat.ion ��s to ho�� best t im-
pl�rnent t.he c�uid li_nes in light oi the existing City ordinar ces;
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3. Th��t th - 1'ort P.oad gu.iclel_:in,�s are hereb:y ref�rr�d o th�
i Planizing Coui�cil for istricts 9 �nd 15 For thei_r cozlsid�r tion
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achieve the Fort R ad th me. They are not to discourage individual
� expression, but si ply t outline basic precautions which will prese e
� � a structure's char cter a d provide a strong unified street .environmen .
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; , 1 SHOP FR�J
' A. � Wh re sho fronts have been bricked in, they should b
ope ed up to their oriqinal design. Wooden bulkheads
sho ld be restored to two (2) feet above the sidewalk.
� Gla s sho ld extend six (6) to ten (10) feet from that
poi t, inc uding a clerestory. Frames ideally should be
' pai ted bl ck or with a color comPatible with the buil -
ing
� 2 WINDOWS
� . A. If riginal windows and doors cannot be restored, they
sho ld be replaced by units of the same size and type .
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as he ori inals. �
, B. All qlass anes should be clear except where documen -
j ed viden e shows the original use of colored glass;
� pla tic m terials should not be used in place of glass
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' C. Sto m win ows should resemble, in color and detail,
exi ting indows.
t � D. If ceili g has been lowered &om it's original height
� be ond th window head, the full height of the wind
sh uld be retained by sloping the ceiling up toward th
to of th window (like an inverted window well) in-
� st d of arrying the ceiling straight across and block
j in the w ndow. Painting the sloping or vertical space �
� ou , with a neutral gray will help conceal it from the
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E. Zb rotec g �
pro ective screens are encouraged which w�ould be attach
� abo e the torefront windo�vs.
3 AW�IINGS
A. Aw inqs s ould be of canvas and have side panels and
; edg skirt , they should be eight (8) feet above the s e-
� wal whe in thelr lowered posltion.
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� B. Aw ings a the second and third floor levels should no
be sed.
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A. Or lnal ornices should be restored. Wood and metal
co lces hould be painted and well maintained.
B. Co ices hould be applied to structures that are out
of harac er with the street and where there is a brea
in he co ice line between buildings.
5 MASONRY -
A. ' In epaint ng a brick structure careful considerakion
sh uld be given to selecting the color. Historic build �
ing that ave not been painted should not now be
� co ered.
B. Wa erproo ing or water repellant coatings should be
av ided.
C. Ne mort r should duplica te the original mortar in co -
po ition, olor and ioint profile. The same proportion •
of ime a d sand or other materials used in the origin 1
� mo ar sh uld be used in order to match the original.
D. Wh n mas nry must be replaced, color, texture, slze
an cours nq technique should match the original maso ry.
E. C1 ning hould be done with water or ioniza tion chem
ica s and a soft, non-ferrous brush. When using chem
ica s, ext eme care must be taken to avoid harming th
� ma onry, diacent materials and the environment. Sand
: bla ting s ould be avoided at all costs.
6 ROOFS
A. Ro s that have their original form should not be alter �
ed. Roofs should not be visible on buildings fronting
We t Sev nth. �
B. All archit tural features such as dormers, cupolas,
bra kets, himneys, etc. , should be preserved.
7 BUILDING EAR
A. Ne store fronts at the rear of the buildinq are evtden
wh n seve al buildings create a shopping environment.
! Spa e Eor elivery should be developed to allow room
! for pedest ains. Backs oE buildings should include slde
�, wal s, la dscaping, information and identification
° gra hics.
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� A. Th colo s to be used are: gray, dark brown, dark qr en,
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sh uld b avolded, with the exceptlon of their use on
th stre.e canopies.
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9 GRAPH IC ,
A. Si ns sh ld not be permltted above the sill of the
se ond fl or unless it reflects a difEerent occupant t an
th of th first floor. Projecting slgns should clear t e
si walk y at least eight (8) feet, and should be hor '
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; B. Sy bolic, three dimensional siqns are to be discourag d.
; Z`w dime sional symbolic graphics such as a shoe or
� ey glass ainted on the store front qlass are permitted.
� Pa er sig s should not be attached to store windows. ,
Tra emark , slogans, or symbols of brands of products
tha do n form the bulk of business should be dis- �
cou aqed. A1�Q, 'tQ�� ���'l��tlrt� ���a��r���� ��o���t� Q-
�11 type,� t�ould b� ��v�td�d.
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! be pplied or painted. Lettering styles should be of
i �� the perlod or modern simple styles are also approporiat .
Serl lette ng is recommended as a design base.
D. Col rs sh ld be compatible with the building and sur-
rou ding e vironment. Historic style lettering in store
fron glass should be in black or gold. More modern
; styl s can be in white. To maximize the effect of a
gra ic th number of colors should be minimal.
E. The type o fixture, light intensity, and light color �
sho ld be imilar to the period. Back-lighting, neon
sign , mo ng and Elashing signs should be avoided.
Indi ect an subdued light is recommended. The use of �
, a w rm col r light incandesant bulb is acceptable.
10 STREET. F RNIT RE
A. Stre t liqht ng should be representative of the period.
It s ould b consistant throughout the character zone,
but an var between the zones.
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in front rds oF residences that face West Seventh, o
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' si ewalk nd be in line with adjacent structure�. Res
� id nces s ould be set back at least twenty (20) feet om
"i th sidew lk to create a front yard.
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�j el ation and have a similar proportion (width to heiq t
r rat o) of he facades of adiacent buildings.
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i; 12 PARKING
� A. Pa llel p rking should remain on West Seventh.
a( • B. Tra secti
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�� int one ay streets with angle parking on one side,
f pr iding more efficient parking area.
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1 inc ease arking spots and provide a more convenient
�, pla e to' ark.
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ed unless they are temporary. All parking areas should �
be screen d from traffic and pedestrains. Screens shou d
�� be either wood fence,- masonry wall, or shrubbery.
�' Scr ening should be at least four (4) feet in height.
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UB IC MEA� iIVG NOTICE
ZONING `� �
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To: Property owner withi 350 feet; � , --�
Representative of P1 nning District 9 FIL E N O, g��
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PURPOSE ro onsider an appeal of an administrative decisio to
den a site plan.
LOCATION
383 . 7th
: Ia E T I T I O N E R pATR C K CARLONE
HEARING � �urs ay, � io:oa a.M.
Citv ouncil am ers, "i oor City Hall - Court H use
QU�STiONS Zonin 298-4154 (Fred Haider)
Contac the Zoning Section of the Planning and Econo ic
Develo ment Department, Room 1101, City Hall Annex,
25 W. th Street, St. Paul, Minnesota 55102
Legal escription: Ex. triangle for street, part NW y of 7th
St. of W. 42.945 of Lot 7, Blk 5
Samuel Leeches Add.
Notice aent 2-15-$5 --
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.ST. AUL CITY COUNCIL
PUB IC HEARING NOTICE
ZONING
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Td:�r P��p�'r���p�ir�+�r withi 350 feet;
' R2preser��a'ti ve of P1 nni ng Di stri ct 9 F I L E N 0. 9714
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P�JRPOSE To consider an appeal of an administrative decisio to
de a site plan.
LOCATION 383 W. �tn
PETITIONER pAT ICK CARLONE
HEARING Thu sday, F ruar 2g �9 lo:oo a.M.
Cit Council ��ambeyrs, �rd ��oor City Hall - Court ouse
QUESTIONS zan ng z98-4154 (Fred Haider)
Con act the Zoning Section of the Planning and Econ mic
Dev lopment Department, Room 1101, City Hall Annex,
25 . 4th Street, St. Paul, MinnesoLa 55102
Le a Descri tion: Ex. triangle for street, part ly of 7th
St. of W. 42.945 of Lot 7, Blk 5,
Samuel Leeches Add. �
Notice sent 2-15- 5
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RANDALL D.B.TIGUE
ATTORNEY AT LAW
Nicoltet Avenue Professional Building
2620 Nicollet Ave.South '
Minneapolis,Minnesota 55408
Telephone:(612)874A903 ,';'-�;,���
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MarCh I8r 1985 '
E< � 2 1 1985
Mr. Victor Tedesc
President
St. Paul City Coun il
St. Paul City Hall "
St. Paul, Minnesot 5510 �
RE: Patrick C rlone
Site Plan No. 1 57
Dear Mr. Tedesco: -
By this letter, Pa rick arlone hereby requests a rehearing of
the City Council' s ecis 'on of March 7, 1985, to deny the appeal
of the administrati e de ision to deny the site plan in the
above-described mat er.
It is our position hat t e City Council based its decision to
deny the site plan pon m sinformation presented to it by t:�a
glanning staff as t the eight of the building under Mr.
Carlone' s proposal. Spec fically, the council was advised in it
staff report that M . Car one' s building, under his proposed sit
plan, would be some 35 fe t, two inches tall, before it was even
placed upon his pro osed foot, 6-inch foundation, thus placing
the building out, of ompl'ance with St. Paul Legislative Code
Section 61.103 (e) .
Please find enclosed herei for the council ' s consideration, a
survey on the house repar d by Mr. J. Gary Ryan, a duly
registered land surv yor u der the laws of the State of
Minnesota, who, usin acce ted surveying techniques, plainly
established the dist nce b tween the bottom of a house and the
gable midpoint, whic the estimony at the council established
was the proper measu ement to be 24. 75 feet. If placed upon a 9
foot foundation, as r. Ca lone is willing to do, this will give
him a building with a heig t of 33. 75 feet. Given the 4-foot
setback which the sta f in icated Mr. Carlone had already
expressed a willingne s to o, this would put the total height of
the building at 33. 75 feet, plainly under the 34 feet legally
permitted under Secti n 51. 03(e) .
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Mr. Victor Tedesco �`—OJ ��
Page Two
March 18, 1985 '
On the basis of th' s inf rmation, Mr. Carlone requests a hearin _
before the City Co ncil, and a reversal of its decision of Marc
7, 1985.
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Randall Ti
Attorney Law - -
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Enclosure
cc Mr. Fred S. Aa'der
City Planner
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ATTORNEY AT LAW •
icollet Avenue Professional Building
2620 Nicollet Ave.South '
Minneapolis,Minnesota 55408
Telephone:(612)874-9903 _.-_,,-�:1����.�
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March 18, 1985 �
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Mr. Victor Tedesco
President -
St. Paul City Coun il
St. Paul City Hall
St. Paul, Minnesot 5510 -
RE: Patrick C rlone
Site Plan No. 1 57
Dear Mr. Tedesco:
By this letter, Pa rick arlone hereby requests a rehearing of
the City Council' s decis on of March 7, 1985, to deny the appea
of the administrat've de ision to deny the site plan in the
above-described ma ter. .
It is our position that he City Council based its decision to
deny the site plan pon isinformation presentc� to it by the
planning staff as t the height of the building under Mr.
Carlone' s proposal. Spe ifically, the council was advised in it
staff report that . Ca one' s building, under his proposed sit
plan, would be some 35 fe t, two inches tall, before it was even
placed upon his pro osed 9 foot, 6-inch foundation, thus placing
the building out of compl 'ance with St. Paul Legislative Code
Section 61.103(e) .
Please find enclose here n for the council' s consideration, a
survey on the house prepa ed by Mr. J. Gary Ryan, a duly
registered land sur eyor nder the laws of the State of
Minnesota, who, usi g acc pted surveying techniques, plainly
established the dis ance etween the bottom of a house and the
gable mid�ooint, whi h the testimony at the council established
was. the proper meas remen , to be 24. 75 feet. If placed upon a
foot foundation, as Mr. C rlone is willing to do, this will give
him a building with a hei ht of 33 . 75 feet. Given the 4-foot
setback which the s aff i dicated Mr. Carlone had already
expressed a willing ess t do, this would put the total height of
the building at 33. 5 fee , plainly under the 34 feet legally
permitted under Sec ion 6 .103 (e) .
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Mr. Victor Tedesco .
Page Two �
March 18, 1985 �
On the basis of thi info mation, Mr. Carlone requests a hearing _
before the City Cou cil, nd a reversal of its decision of March
7, 1985. .
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Randall Ti
Attorney Law
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Enclosure
cc Mr. Fred S. Hai er
City Planner
cc Mr. Patrick Car one .
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EGISL TIVE CODE �
Building. Any struct e, either temporary or permanent, having a
roof supported by c lumns o walls, and intended for the shelter
or enclosure of per ns,anim is,chattels,or property of any kind.
This shall include t nts, awn ngs, or vehicles situated on private
property and used f r the pu se of a building,
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the city of Saint Pa 1 under pter 33 of the Saint Paul Legisla-
tive Code.
Building height Th vertical istance measured from the estab-
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to the deck line of ansard oofs; and to the average height be-
tween eaves and rid e for ga le,hip, and gambrel roofs.Where a`
building is located o sloping rrain,the height may be measured
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Building line. A line rm by t e above grade face of the building,
and for the purpose of this c �e, a minimum building line is the
fsame as a front set ck line.
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goods, wares, or me chandise or the maintenance or operation of
� offices or recreation 1 or am ement enterprises,or the furnishing
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(Code 1956, as amend , @660.3 -60.314, 60.318;further amended: '
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City engineer.The so esignat city engineer of the department of
public works of the ity of Sa' t Fau1.
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Cluuc.An establishme t where uman patients who are not lodged
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group of physicians, entists, r similar professionals.
Club.An organization f perso for special purposes or for the pro-
mulgation of sports, rts, scie ces, literature, politics, or the like,
but not operated fo pro�t, cluding churches, synagogues, or
other houses of wors 'p.
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Buildin8• AnY stru ure, eith r temporary or permanent, having a
roof supported by olumns r walls, and intended for the shelter
or enclosure of pe ns,an' als,chattels,or property of any kind.
This shall include tents, a ings, or vehicles situated on private -
property and used for the p rpose of a building.
Building code.The 'nneso State Building Code as adopted by
the crty of Saint P ul under Chapter 33 of the Saint Paul Legisla-
tive Code.
Building height e vertica distance measured from the estab-
lished grade to th highest oint of the roof surface for flat roofs;
to the deck line o mansar roofs; and to the average height be-
tween eaves and ri ge for g ble,hip,and gambrel roofs.Where a`
building is located n slopin terrain,the height may be measured
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Building line. A lin form by he above grade face of the building,
and for the purpos of this ode, a minimum building line is the
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Busineas.The enga ng in the urchase,sale,barter,or exchange of `,
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o�ces or recreatio al or am ement enterprises,or the furnishing
of services for com nsation
(Code 1956, as ame d, @�60. 08-6D.314, F�.318;further arnended:
Ord. 16876, Jan 28 1982.)
60.203. C
i City engineer.The designat d city engineer of the department of
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! group of physicians dentists, or simitar professionals.
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� mulgation of sports arts, sci nces, literature, politics, or the like,
r but not operated f r pro�t, xcluding churches, synagogues, or
j other houses of wo hip.
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Cluster developmen A patte n of subdivision which places hous- �
ing units into conta groupin s while providing a network of com-
monly owned or de icated o en space.
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