87-1357 WHITE - CITV CLERK
PINK -�INANCE G I TY O F SA I NT PA U L Council �'���s7
Cl.YARV - DEPARTMENT
BLUE - MAVOR File NO.
Council Resolution
Presented By �
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
WHEREAS, The Metropolitan Surface Water Management Act of 1982 provides for
review of watershed management plans by all cities having territory within the
watershed, and states that any city which expects that substantial amendment
of its local comprehensive plan will be necessary in order to bring local
water management into conformance with the watershed plan shall describe as
specifically as possible, within its corr�nents, the amendments to the local
plan which it expects will be necessary; and
WHEREAS, The City's Planning Commission ordinance provides that the Planning
Commission shall serve as an advisory body to the Mayor and City Council on
municipal planning matters; and
WHEREAS, The Saint Paul Planning Corrrnnission has reviewed the proposed Central
Ramsey Watershed Management Plan for compliance with the Saint Paul
Comprehensive Plan and for issues of municipal planning concern; and
WHEREAS, The Planning Commission has found the proposed watershed management
plan to be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, That the Saint Paul City Council supports the
adoption of the proposed Central Ramsey Watershed Management Plan and
recommends forwarding the following comments to the Central Ramsey Watershed
Management Organization (WMO):
1.) the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan does not require amendment in
order to bring local water management into conformance with the
proposed Watershed Management Organization plan;
2.) proposed solutions to flooding problems should be based on 100-year
events and should provide adequate estimates of costs incurred by a
100-year event and equitable proposals for cost-sharing among
affected communities;
3.) sufficient data should be provided to enable public bodies to plan
for intercommunity flow of runoff;
COU[VCILMEN Requested by Department of:
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WNITE - CITV CLERK
PINK � FINANCE G I TY OF SA I NT PAIT L Council �7`/��
C�{1NARV - DEPARTMENT
BLUE . - MAVOR File NO.
Council Resolution
Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
4.) stormwater runoff management costs to affected public bodies should
be estimated where appropriate and a procedure should be developed
for sharing costs where intercommunity flows are involved;
5.) the Watershed Management Organization plan should be as specific as
possible in defining its standards for controlling and treating
various types of runoff;
6.) before finally adopting special requirements for stormwater
management plans in critical areas, the Watershed Management
Organization should make sure that the implementation of new
regulations is feasible and that both small and large developers
can readily obtain the engineering expertise needed to develop
stormwater management plans;
7.) the Watershed Management Organization should provide adequate
training for City inspectors and plan reviewers in enforcing
stormwater runoff and water quality management requirements;
8.) the City supports the retrofitting of existing conveyance systems
with settling basins when feasible, but recognizes potential
problems with obtaining suitable land and public acceptance;
9.) the City supports Watershed Management Organization studies to
determine what capital improvements are needed and how they will be
financed; and
FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, That the City Council 's recommendations be
transmitted to the Water Resources Board.
C�UNCILMEN Requested by Department of:
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W1130ri SEP 16 1987 Form Approve y City Attorney
Adopted by Council: Date
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b. Staff report; c: Copy of proposed C�ty Council resolution
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b. Staff repnrt; c. Copy of proposed City �ouncil resolution
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SAIN7' PAllL, MINNESOTA 55102
GEORGE LATIMER (612) 298-4323
MAYOR
August 19, 1987
, President John Drew and
Members of the City Co�ncil
713 City Hall
Dear President Drew and Members of the City Council:
The Metropolitan Surface Water Management Act of 1982 requires that water
management in the Twin Cities area be guided by watershed plans which
encourage intergovernmental cooperation. Each watershed is to have its own
plan, created by its watershed management organization or district. Cities
within each watershed participate in the creation and review of each plan.
When all applicable watershed plans have been adopted, each city must then
revise its plans and/or procedures to cc,nform to all applicable watershed
plans.
Saint Paul will be subject to five watershed management plans. One plan, the
Ramsey-Washington Metro District Plan, has already been adopted. The City has
now reached the stage of reviewing two additional plans, those of the Central
Ramse_y and Southwest Ramsey Watershed Management Organizations.
The Planning Commission has found each of these plans to be consistent with
the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan and has identified several issues of
municipal planning concern which should be forwarded to the respective
watershed management organizations. The areas of planning concern involve
ways in which the watershed management organization can be more helpful in
providing information and guidance to member communities.
I am pleased �o transmit to you the Planning Commission resolution and
accompanying staff report for each plan. I recommend that they be supported
and forwarded to the relevant watershed management organization and to the
Water Resources Board.
Very truly yours,
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Mayor
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planning commission resolution
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WHEREAS, the Metropolitan Surface Water Management Act of 1982 provides for
review of watershed management plans by all cities having territory within the
watershed, and states that any city which expects that substantial amendment
of its local comprehensive plan will be necessary in order to bring local
water management into conformance with the watershed plan shall describe as
specifically as possible, within its comments, the amendments to the local
plan which it expects will be necessary; and
WHEREAS, the City's Planning Commission ordinance provides that the Planning
Commission shall serve as an advisory body to the Mayor and City Council on
municipal planning matters; and
WHEREAS, the Saint Paul Planning Commission has reviewed the proposed Central
Ramsey Watershed Management Plan for compliance with the Saint Paul
Comprehensive Plan and for issues of municipal planning concern; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has found the proposed watershed management
plan to be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul Planning Commission
supports the adoption of the proposed Central Ramsey Watershed Management Plan
and recommends forwarding the following comments to the Central Ramsey
Watershed Management Organization (WMO) :
1. ) the Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan does not require amendment in
order to bring local water management into conformance with the
t proposed Watershed Management Organization plan;
2. ) proposed solutions to flooding problems should be based on 100-year
events and should provide adequate estimates of costs incurred by a
100-year event and equitable proposals for cost-sharing among
affected communities;
3. ) sufficient data should be provided to enable public bodies to plan
for intercommunity flow of runoff;
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4. ) stormwater runoff management costs to affected public bodies should
be estimated where appropriate and a procedure should be developed
for sharing costs where intercommunity flows are involved;
5. ) the Watershed Management Organization plan should be as specific as
possible in defining its standards for controlling and treating
various types of runoff;
6. ) before finally adopting special requirements for stormwater
management plans in critical areas, the Watershed Management
Organization should make sure that the implementation of new
regulations is feasible and that both small and large developers
can readily obtain the engineering expertise needed to develop
stormwater management plans;
7. ) the Watershed Management Organization should provide adequate
training for City inspectors and plan reviewers in enforcing
stormwater runoff and water quality management requirements;
8. ) the City supports the retrofitting of existing conveyance systems
with settling basins when feasible, but recognizes potential
problems with obtaining suitable land and public acceptance;
9. ) the City supports Watershed Management Organization studies to
determine what capital improvements are needed and how they will be
financed; and
FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission's recommendations be
transmitted to the Mayor and City Council for their consideration.
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; �;��„„ ; DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
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25 West Fourfh Sheet,Sainf Paui,Minnesota 55102
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612-22&3270
GEORGE UTIMER
MAYOR
STAFF REPORT
T0: Planning Commission
FROM: Mark Vander Schaaf 1"i- �/
SUBJECT: Planning Commission Review of the Central Ramsey Watershed
Management Plan
DATE: August 6, 1987
INTRODUCTION
The Metropolitan Surface Water Management Act of 1982 (Chapter 509, Minnesota
Statutes Section 473.875 to 473.883) establishes watershed management
organizations (WMOs) and directs each WMO to prepare and implement a watershed
management plan. Local units of government having territory within a
particular WMO are required to adopt a local water management plan, a capital
improvement program, and official controls as necessary to bring local water
management into conformance with each relevant watershed plan.
Six separate watersheds cover territory within Saint Paul's city limits.
Saint Paul is expected to conform with WMO plans for five of these watersheds.
The only land in Saint Paul included in the sixth watershed is Pike Island
(State-owned and undeveloped) ; thus, Saint Paul is not required to conform to
the WMO plan for this watershed.
Of the five t�'?��10 plans governing Saint Paul, only one has been adopted. The
plan for the Ramsey-Washington Metro Watershed District was approved by the
Water Resources Board and adopted by the District early in 1987. Plans for
the Central Ramsey and Southwest Ramsey WMOs are now being reviewed by member
municipalities. The plans for Saint Paul's other two watersheds have not yet
been released for review.
The following staff report addresses the draft Stormwater Runoff and Water
Quality Management Plan which the Central Ramsey Watershed Management
Organization transmitted to the City of Saint Paul for review and comment.
The Central Ramsey WMO includes portions of four municipalities in central
Ramsey County--Saint Paul, Roseville, Maplewood and Falcon Heights (see
attached map) . In Saint Paul, it includes all of Planning Districts 6, 7 and
17, and portions of Districts 4, S, 8, 10, 11, 13 and 16.
To conform to each WMO plan, Saint Paul may need to revise its Zoning Code and
its site plan review process. The Saint Paul Sewer Division will have the
primary responsibility for developing new City water management plan
requirements and new Zoning Code provisions. The Sewer Division, along with
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the Division of Housing and Building Code Enforcement, will also be
responsible for enforcing the new requirements through the building and site
plan review processes.
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AUTHORITY FOR REVIEW
The Metropolitan Surface Water Management Act of 1982 provides for review of
watershed management plans by all cities having territory within each
watershed. It further directs that any city which expects that substantial
amendment of its local comprehensive plan will be necessary in order to bring
local water management into conformance with the watershed plan shall describe
as specifically as possible, within its comments, the amendments to the local
plan which it expects will be necessary. The City's Planning Commission
ordinance provides that the Planning Commission shall serve as an advisory
body to the Mayor and City Council on municipal planning matters.
MANAGEMENT ISSUES AND STRATEGIES
The Central Ramsey WMO has identified four surface water management issues and
has devised strategies for dealing with each issue. The following summarizes
each issue and considers to what extent each corresponds to issues and
strategies identified in the Saint Paul Comprehensive Sewer Plan.
1. Combined Sewer Overflow
- Issue:
The City of Saint Paul's Comprehensive Sewer Plan--Part I, Stormwater
Management, March 1984, identifies where combined sewers are located and
what problems are associated with them. The City's plan also provides a
summary of proposed solutions and cost estirnates for these solutions.
A central component of Saint Paul's plan is a vigorous program to separate
sanitary and storm sewers. This program also requires separate sanitary
and storm interceptors (large sewer lines which collect sewage from a
number of trunk lines) . Currently, a major project involves the Trout
Brook interceptor which is currently a combined interceptor owned by the
Metropolitan Waste Control Commission (MWCC) . The MWCC is building a new
Trout Brook sanitary interceptor approximately parallel to the existing
combined interceptor. When the new interceptor is completed, the current
interceptor will be returned to the City of Saint Paul and will be used
only for stormwater drainage. The turn-back agreement for the old
interceptor has not yet been negotiated, however.
- WMO Management Strategy:
Support Saint Paul's effort; be aware of Saint Paul projects that may
benefit intercommunity stormwater management; assist in negotiating a
turn-back agreement for the Trout Brook interceptor.
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- Relationship to Saint Paul ComprEhensive Plan:
The City's Comprehensive Sewer Plan on stormwater management (March 1984)
recommends separate sewers in all new construction and a program of sewer
separation in areas of the city served by combined sewers (Recommendations
#1, 2, 3, 7, 9, 11 and 14; pp. 123, 124) . The same plan also makes other
recommendations regarding solutions to problems of combined sewer
overflow, including a roof drain disconnection program, a program for
developing regional stormwater ponding areas, and a program to minimize
stormwater runoff on construction sites (Recommendations #12, 13, 15 and
16; pp. 123, 124) . Finally, the plan recommends that the MWCC construct a
new Trout Brook sanitary interceptor and sell the existing facilities back
to Saint Paul (Recommendation #8, p. 123) .
An amendment to the Comprehensive Sewer Plan on stormwater management
(January 1986) establishes an accelerated ten year sewer separation
program funded at $15.4 million per year with Saint Paul's share fixed at
$4.8 million per year (p. 30) . This amendment was a result of new State
and federal mandates and funding commitments.
2. Intercommunity Stormwater Runoff Management
- Issue:
Four areas of inter-community drainage problems were identified using
HYDRO, a computer model developed by the City of Saint Paul to analyze
depth and volume of runoff and rates of peak inflow and outflow for minor
watersheds.
First, Godfried Pit in Roseville will generate excess runoff that floods
Larpenteur Avenue and some adjacent development, and will drain into Saint
Paul's sewer system. Water depths during a 100-year, 24-hour storm could
be as much as 10 feet in some apartments and homes on Larpenteur.
Second, McCarrons Lake in Roseville will cause flooding up to the edge of
Rice Street and runoff combined with this outflow will create a shallow
flow of water across Rice Street.
Third, there are three minor watersheds having no outlet for stormwater
runoff--one in Falcon Heights and two in Roseville.
Fourth, there are several entry points where the combined sanitary/storm
sewer capacity will be exceeded during a heavy storm, causing water to
collect at low points or flow on street surfaces to re-enter downstream
storm drains.
- WMO Management Strategy:
The WMO plan identifies alternative solutions for each of the four
problems mentioned above. It also recommends a specific alternative in
each case.
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August 6, 1987
Page Four
First, the plan recommends expanding Godfried Pit to provide adequate
storage for the 5-year, 24-hour storm.
Second, the plan recommends increasing the outlet capacity under Rice
Street to handle outflow from McCarrons Lake.
Third, the plan makes no recommendation concerning minor watersheds with
no outlet because these watersheds are within individual communities and
have not caused flooding problems in the past.
Fourth, the plan recommends the development of detention basins in
situations where there are entry point capacity problems.
- Relationship to Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan:
The City's Comprehensive Sewer Plan on stormwater management (March 1984)
recommends that Saint Paul seek the cooperation of the State of Minnesota,
the Metropolitan Waste Control Commission, the Metropolitan Council and
suburban communities in reaching the most beneficial solution to watershed
problems which affect numerous governmental agencies (Recommendation #4,
p. 123) .
3. Lake Management
- Issue:
Two lakes--McCarrons Lake (Roseville) and Lake Como (Saint Paul)--require
management to improve their water quality. For both lakes, the central
water quality concerns are water clarity and accelerated eutrophication
(excessive nutrients and lack of oxygen) . Under the Federal Clean Lakes
Program, water quality projects have been initiated for both lakes.
For McCarrons Lake, the City of Roseville was the cooperating agency in
developing a series of sedimentation basins and wetland treatment areas.
The Metropolitan Council has contracted with the City of Roseville for
post-project monitoring.
For Lake Como, a program has been initiated with Ramsey County as the
cooperating agency. This program will include two sedimentation basins, a
system for diverting stormwater drainage, and an aeration system. Ramsey
County will also be responsible for post-project monitoring.
- WMO Management Strategy:
The WMO will be a passive participant, reviewing and determining the
efficiency of remedial programs undertaken by local government units.
- Relationship to Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan:
Not specifically addressed in the City's Comprehensive Plan because the
Lake Como program is under federal direction with Ramsey County as the
cooperating agency.
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Page Five
4. Water Quality Management
- Issue:
Water quality should be protected in the protected waters and wetlands of
the watershed. Protected waters consist of Lake Como, McCarrons Lake,
Trout Brook and the Mississippi River. There are also three wetlands--two
in Roseville and one in Saint Paul (Loeb Lake in Marydale Park) .
- WMO Management Strategy:
Each city should develop plans for housekeeping, source controls and
construction site management.
- Relationship to Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan:
The City's Comprehensive Sewer Plan on stormwater management (March 1984)
contains numerous recommendations such as those made by the WMO, including
a roof drain disconnection program, the development of regional stormwater
ponding, development and redevelopment site requirements, the introduction
of new technologies to protect the environment, street sweeping and the
cleaning of catch basin sumps.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
The Saint Paul Sewer Division will have the primary responsibility for
developing and enforcing new city requirements to implement the watershed
district plan. Sewer Division staff has reviewed the proposed watershed
management plan and recommends that the City of Saint Paul support the
adoption of the plan. Specific Sewer Division recommendations are contained
in the attached memo from Roy Bredahl to Al Lovejoy dated July 27, 1987.
Planning Division staff also recommends that the City of Saint Paul support
the adoption of the proposed Central Ramsey Watershed Management Plan and
recommends forwarding the following comments to the Watershed Management
Organization:
1. The Saint Paul Comprehensive Plan does not require amendment in order to
bring local water management into conformance with the proposed Watershed
Management Organization plan.
2. Proposed solutions to flooding problems should be based on 100-year events
and should provide adequate estimates of costs incurred by a 100-year
event and equitable proposals for cost-sharing among affected communities.
3. Sufficient data should be provided to enable public bodies to plan for
intercommunity flow of runoff.
4. Stormwater runoff management costs to affected public bodies should be
estimated where appropriate and a procedure should be developed for
sharing costs where intercommunity flows are involved.
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August 6, 1987
Page Six
5. The Watershed Management Organization plan should be as specific as
possible in defining its standards for controlling and treating various
types of runoff.
6. Before finally adopting special requirements for stormwater management
plans in critical areas, the Watershed Management Organization should make
sure that the implementation of new regulations is feasible and that both
small and large developers can readily obtain the engineering expertise
needed to develop stormwater management plans.
7. The Watershed Management Organization should provide adequate training for
City inspectors and plan reviewers in enforcing stormwater runoff and
water quality management requirements.
8. The City supports the retrofitting of existing conveyance systems with
settling basins when feasible, but recognizes potential problems with
obtaining suitable land and public acceptance.
9. The City supports Watershed Management Organization studies to determine
what capital improvements are needed and how they will be financed.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ACTION
At its meeting of August 5, 1987, the Economic Development Committee discussed
a draft staff report and draft recommendations with Planning Division and
Sewer Division staff. The recommendations have been revised in accordance
with discussion at that meeting. The committee unanimously recommended
approval of the proposed resolution, as revised.
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CITY OF SAINT PAUL
INTERDEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
TO: A1 Lovejoy
Planning & Economic Development
1100 City Hall Annex
FROM: Roy Bredahl Rj �
Department of Public Works �`
700 City Hall Annex
DATE: July 27, 1987
SUBJECT: Central Ramsey and Southwest Ramsey Watershed Management
Plans �
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The Department of Public Works submits the following comments for your
staff report to the Economic Development Committee of the Planning
Commission:
General Observations
The plans provide a basic document for meeting the requirements of the
Metropolitan Surface Water Management Act. These Watershed Management
Organizations (WMO's) are admittedly loosely organized relying on the
individual member communities to perform most regulatory,
administration and construction functions. As planning organizations,
the WMO's set general guidelines for the local activities, provide
forums to settle disputes and oversee conformance with the plans.
In reviewing the plans, the Sewer Division tried to anticipate the
requirements of other agencies and certain city needs that have to be
addressed. Therefore, we submit the followinq recommendations:
These Watersheds have lost many wetlands to land development.
Therefore, the remaining water resources are particularly.precious.
Certain guidelines are needed to protect these resources in terms of
quantity and quality.
CENTRAL RAMSEY WATERSHED
Our comments center around Chapter V of the Plan.
1. Combined Sewer Overflows
The WMO is not directly involved in St. Paul's sewer separation
except as it relates to the management of intercommunity flows.
There should be a procedure for determining the cost sharing for
structures that serve intercommunity flows.
2. Intercommunity Stormwater Runoff Management
a. Solutions to the Godfried Pit overflow problem (P. V-10)
appear to be based on a 5-year storm design. This may not be
appropriate because normally such ponding areas are designed
for a 100 year event. This project could create hidden costs
to St. Paul if it results in more overflow from Lake Conio.
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b. The proposed solution to the McCarrons Lake overflow problem
may conflict with St. Paul's plan for the Arlington-Jackson
Pond and Trout Brook separation. It is unclear what would
happen during a 100 year event and unclear whether St. Paul
will be providing extra storage capacity in the pond for
additional overflow. Mention should be made of the role of
the Minnesota Department of Transportation. _
c. The discussion on the Arlington-Jackson Pond (P. V-18) should
mention cost sharing of a joint-used facility.
d. The section on Intercommunity Stormwater Runoff Management
(p.V-20) contains no section estimating the costs to the
Central Ramsey (WMO) .
e. The plan does not contain sufficient data for St. Paul to
design and plan for intercommunity flows.
3 . LAKE MANAGEMENT
It is true that the Clean Lakes Program for Lakes Como and
McCarrons are being controlled by others. The WMO should have an
active policy of monitoring the progress of these efforts.
4 . WATER QUALITY MANAGEMENT
a. The section on source controls of pollutants is vague. There
should be guidelines. St. Paul may not be in the position to
provide for the control and treatment of 1 year storm runoff
on new developments or redevelopments (p. V-23) . Is there
some minimum acreage limitation applicable to this standard?
b. It will be difficult to prepare a plan for control of road
deicing chemicals and construction site management to maintain
water quality (p.V-23) , unless reasonable guidelines are
established.
SOUTHWEST RAMSEY WATERSHED
Our comments center on Chapters V and VI of the plans.
1. Intermember Stormwater Runoff Management
The plan does not contain sufficient data for St. Paul to design
and plan for intermember stormwater flows (p. V-2) .
2. Combined Sewer Overflow
The WMO is not directly involved in St. Paul's sewer separation
except as it relates to the management of intercommunity flows
(p. V-16) . There should be a procedure for determining the cost
sharing for the St. Anthony Park facilities that serve several
members of this watershed.
3. Fairgrounds Runoff Water Quality
The plan indicates that a portion of the Fairgrounds will remain
served by combined sewers because of water quality problems
V-19) . This matter will have to be studied further. The
Metropolitan Waste Control Commission and the Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency should be involved in establishing these criteria.
St. Paul is concerned because the excessive inflow of stormwater
into existing regional sanitary interceptor could cause problems in
St. Paul's system.
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4 . Hidden Falls-Crosby Lake Regional Park
There should be a list of specific steps which the city should
take to perform the work required for Crosby to provide
recreational opportunities (to meet the 2B Classification P.V-24) .
Excessive runoff may not be the problem.
5. Water Quality Management
The section on source controls on pollutants is vague (p. V-27) .
There should be guidelines. This is especially important as it
relates to road deicing chemical control and construction site
management.
6. Chapter VI - Implementation
(Page VI-I - Item 2) The statement is made that the city should
meet guidelines relatinq to stormwater detention and treatment.
These guidelines have not been established in this report. The
Minnesota Department of Transportation is involved in this matter
also.
Also attached are some recommended changes to your memo to the
Planning Commission.
REB/RJH/ck
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Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
WHEREAS , on April 3, 1987 P.S.R. , Inc. was notified by
the City' s Building Inspection and Design Division, Department
of Community Services , �hat its use of the property located
at 840 Beech Street dia no� comply wi'th the zoning requirements
and that unless the Planning Commission determined that the
use of this property was similar to other uses permitted in
the RT-1 zoning district, such use must be discontinued; and
WHEREAS , P.S.R. , Inc. made applica-tion to the Planning
Commission for a determination of similar use pursuant to Section
62.113 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code and in said application
stated the following:
"P.S.R. , Inc . , is a for-profit 1�7innesota corporation operat-
an ernergency shelter which provides shelter and referral
services to temporarily displaced persons. Clients of
P.S.R. include �'amilies , single women with chilciren, and
other persons wno are experiencing an emergency that leaves
them without a safe and clean place to live temporarily.
Only persons referred to P.S .R. , Inc. by the Emergency
Social Service Division of the American Red Cross are
allowed to stay a� P.S .R. Some persons referred to P. S.R.
by the Emergency Social Service Division are capable of
paying their bill , but generally, Ramsey Coun'cy :-iuman
Community Services pays for the persons referred to P.S.R.
by E.S.S .
"P.S.R. has been in business since 1981 , and has served
over 4, 800 referrals. A typical stay at P.S.R. is between
three and six days. During the time persons stay at P.S .R. ,
they are referred to public and social service agencies
for assistance, and are assisted in attempting to locate
their own permanent housing. P.S .R, also assists individuals
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in finding employment and provides instruction in personal
money management and independent living skills .
"The building at 840 Beech Street is a five-unit apartment
building with a small office in the basement. Each apartment
can provide lodging with shared kitchen and bathroom facili-
ties for six persons . Laundry facilities are also available.
"P.S.R. is located on a bus line which allows easy access
to downtown Saint Paul . When persons are referred by
P.S .R. to agencies located downtown, P.S .R. provides individ-
uals with bus tokens to facilitate their getting to the
agencies that can provide the help they need.
"P. S .R. is in the process of finding a location closer
to downtown Saint Paul . Since P. S .R. requires a large
facility, it is anticipated that the search for a downtown
location for P.S.R. will be lengthy. P.S .R. anticipates
being in its present location for approximately three
years . "
WHEREAS , the application of P.S.R. was heard by the Zoning
Committee , a subcommittee of the Planning Commission of the
City of Saint Paul , on June 18 , 1987 at which time the applicant
and other persons were given an opportunity to be heard and,
following the public hearing, the Zoning Committee recommended
that the Planning Commission find and determine that P.S.R.
is most similar to a community residential facility which is
a use permitted in the RT-1 zoning district subject to complying
with specified conditions and restrictions and recommended
that the special condition use permit be denied to P.S.R. on
the grounds that the property did not meet the conditions as
specified in the RT-1 zoning district; and
WHEREAS , the Planning Commission of the City of Saint
Paul after considering the application, the evidence submitted
to its Zoning Committee and the recommendation of its Zoning
Committee , found and determined that the use made of the property
by P.S .R. at 840 Beech Street was most similar to a community
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residential facility and denied the granting of the required
special condition use permit for the community residential
facility at this location based upon the findings and conclusions
contained in the Planning Commission Resolution No. 87-71 dated
June 6, 1987 , some of the pertinent findings being as follows :
(1 ) The building at 840 Beech Street has legal nonconforming
status for five dwelling units , four two-bedroom and one one-
bedroom unit.
(2) P.S .R, moved its shelter from its previous location
on West Seventh Street to the present location on Beech Street
on April 1 , 1987 . P.S .R. provides a transitional living situation
for between three to six days for families and single women
with children and other single persons . Residents are those
who are referred to P.S.R. by the Emergency Social Service
Division of the Red Cross , or less frequently brought in by
a police call ; on average, 15 to 25 people a night are served.
According to the applicant, a maximum of 31 clients can be
accepted.
( 3) P.S .R. offers lodging, permanent housing assistance
and job referral , to its residents ; instruction in personal
money management and independent living skills may also be
available.
(4) Permitted uses in the RT-1 zoning district, in which
the subject property is located, include one and two-family
residences , schools , colleges , municipal buildings , churches
and similar places of worship, foster homes serving six or
fewer residents , community residential facilities and clustered
developments .
( 5) The use of the subject property by P. S .R. does not
meet any of the above defined and permitted uses in the RT-1
district and therefore the Planning Cornmission is authorized
to determine if a use is similar to other uses permitted in
that district and make the findings as specified in Section
62. 113 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code as follows :
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Clause A. The use of the property by P.S.R. is similar
in character to one or more of the principal uses permitted
in the RT-1 district. The residential use is most similar
to the residential use found in a community residential facility,
including supervision, some education and training and screening
of residents. It is dissimilar to a community residential
facility in that (1 ) it does not serve persons who are mentally
retarded, physically handicapped, mentally ill or chemically
dependent, (2) residents are not placed there by a court or
other correctional agency, ( 3) no rehabilitation or treatment
occurs on site, and (4) no state licensing is required.
B. That the traffic generated by this use is similar
to one or more of the principal uses permitted. A transitional
living residence for 15 to 25 persons , some of whom do not
own a vehicle and some of whom are children, will probably
generate traffic similar to a community residential facility
where clients leave in the day for treatment and return in
the evening for lodging.
C. The use is not first permitted in a less restricted
zoning district. A community residential facility serving
seven or more residents is first permitted in the RT-1 zoning
district.
D. That the use is consistent with the comprehensive
plan.
(6) The conditions and standards that must be met in order
for a community residential facility may be located in an RT-1
zoning district are not met by P.S .R. in the following partic-
ulars :
(a) A resident population of less than 16 persons is permitted
and the proposal is for housing up to 31 persons .
(b) A minimum lot size requirement for a facility with
25 residents is 10 , 700 sq. ft. and the 840 Beech Street
property has 5 , 209 sq. ft.
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(c) A minimum distance requirement of 1 , 320 feet between
community residential facilities is required and the
property at 840 Beech Street is located approximately
900 feet from Wicklough, a licensed program for mentally
retarded adults.
(d) Off-street parking is required at the rate of one
space for every two residents and with 25 residents
proposed, 12 off-street parking spaces would be required.
The property at 840 Beech has a parking lot for six
vehicles .
WHEREAS , acting pursuant to the provisions of Section
64.205 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code, P.S .R. , Inc. , duly
filed its appeal from this determination made by the Planning
Commission and requested that a hearing be held before the
City Council for the purpose of considering the actions taken
by the said Commission; and
WHEREAS , acting pursuant to Sections 64.205 through 64. 208 ,
and upon notice to appellant and other affected property owners ,
a public hearing was duly conducted before the Council of the
City of 5aint Paul on August 6 , 1987 and August 11 , 1987 , at
which time all interested parties were given an opportunity to
be heard; and
WHEREAS , the Council , having heard the statements made,
and having considered the application for determination of
similar use , the record of the hearing conducted by the Zoning
Committee , the findings and recommendation of the Zoning Com-
mittee , and the findings and determination made by the Planning
Commission of the City of Saint Paul , does hereby
RESOLVE , that the Council of the Saint Paul does hereby
affirm the decision of the Planning Commission in this matter
and does hereby find and determine that the Planning Commission
did not commit an error ; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Council of the City of Saint
Paul does hereby concur and adopt the findings and conclusions
made by the Planning Commission as set forth in its Resolution
No. 87-71 , dated June 26 , 1987 ; and, be it
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