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The Council of the City of Saint Paul has conducted a public hearing upon the above improvement, due notice
thereof having been given as prescribed by the City Charter; and
WHEREAS, The Council has heard all persons, objections and recommendations pertaining to said proposed improve-
ment and has fully considered the same; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the Council of the City of Saint Paul does hereby order that the above-described improvement
be made, and the proper City officers are hereby directed and authorized to proceed with the improvement; and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, That upon the completion of said improvement, the proper City officers shall calculate
all expenses incurred therein and shall report the same to the City Council in accordance with Chapter 14 of the City Charter.
COUNCIL PERSON Adopted by the Council: Date
JAN 1 3 1987
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OFFZCE OF TH� CITY COIINCIL
JANICE RETTMAN
Councilperson �M�RANDUM
January 5, 1987
T0: Don Nygaard � �
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FROM: Janice Rettmar��and Joe Collins
RE: Dale/Hoyt Separated Sewer Area
At the outset, Don, we would like to thank you for spending time with us this
morning to survey and review the internal dynamics of how the separated sewer project
area will work.
The Dale/Hoyt Separated Sewer Area encompasses a thriving business (Linder`s Green-
house) , which would be adversely impacted without intricate planning and scheduling;
a cemetery, which must protect the rights of those families, and people who have
relatives or friends buried .there; a very active Maternity of Mary Church and School, �
which has a tremendous parking need; Ideal Hall, which also has a parking impact
need; and numerous other neighborhood concerns that we were able to share with you.
Additionally, we are dealing with two bus routes with above-average ridership '
(especially Monday through Friday) . Together, we must address a safe, but efficient,
traffic flow which is workable for the riders and residents.
As we stated this morning, this memo is to review the areas of concern which we
viewed together. (I am very grateful that over 150 peopl� attended the meeting at
Maternity of Mary. Some of these concerns were addressed there--some were called
in to us.)
1. Linder`s Greenhouse, both wholesale and retail, bounded by Larpenteur Avenue
and Wheelock Parkway.
A meeting should be held with you, our office, Peter White, Dick Williams,
Short Elliott Hendrickson Inc. , Tom Lynch, etc. , to address the complex nature
of the interfacing of the sewer, drainage, high volume of traffic and business,
etc. This meeting should be held during the month of January. The bid
specifications should include any agreements reached.
2. Trees for the entire area should be ordered as part of the bid specification
through the Division of Parks and Recreation, with fall planting, and
confirmation sent to the District Planning Councils and this office.
3. Water problems that have appeared in and around 478 West Arlington Avenue,
the Harold Hebl residence, should be addressed so that sinking holes, both in
the boulevard and street area, and in the actual yard, do not continue to occur.
Confirmation should be sent via the Water Department and Public Works Department
to the Hebls' . A meeting should be arranged with the Hebls' , the Water Department,
CITY HALL ROOM NO. 704 SAINT PAUL, MINNFSOTA 55102 612/298-5289
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Memo to Don Nygaard
Re: Dale/Hoyt Separated Sewer Area
January 5, 1987
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and Public Works Department, to determine the problem and the long-term
solutions. (As you know, in the Maryland/Galtier area, there was a similar
situation. A neighborhood resident brought this concern to the attention of
our office and, subsequently, to the Public Works Department. Her concern
was well-founded and resulted in lower capital improvement costs and labor
costs.)
4. Maternity of Mary parking, Ideal Hall parking.
Since a high concentration of parking occurs both in the parking lot and on
all major streets and side streets, a detailed parking plan should be developed
and shared with all of those involved. As you know, Maternity of Mary has a
school and a very active congregation; mass times and school times should be
taken into consideration. The Ideal Hall has seven (7) weekly bingo occasions,
plus weddings and/or parties which should also receive proper time and attention
so that negative impact will not be felt in the residential area. It should be
noted that both properties are surrounded by streets that will have sewer
construction work. This construction, in the past, has required longer
reconstruction down-time. '
5. As you know, we stopped by the Ray Schmidt residence at 1376 North Dale Street.
Mr. Schmidt was one of the original property owners in this area. To establish
his sewer connection, Mr. Schmidt was assessed for a sewer connection from his
house to Wheelock Parkway (about one block long) . Because this would have been
a high assessment, we are concerned that Mr. Schmidt would again be assessed for
the first-time storm sewer charge. I am requesting that the situation be
reviewed and a recommendation be made regarding this additional charge. Also,
a visit should be made by you, or one of your designees, to address his concerns
of having to potentially relocate his plumbing, cesspool, sump pump, etc. Not
being engineers, we did not want to represent a complete knowledge of what the
separated sewer would entail for this property; however, we do feel that Mr.
Schmidt should be given a good understanding of what, indeed, would be happening
on his property. Equally, we feel that no assessment, or minimal assessment,
should be made.
6. Near the area where Mr. Schmidt lives is one block of Danforth (Wheelock Parkway
to Cottage) ; one of the concerns addressed is the street grading. It was our
understanding, from Mr. Bredahl, that those concerns could be addressed.
7. Bus routes.
I am concerned about the impact of the sewer construction on the neighborhood
bus routes. As you know, the ��12 (Arlington) bus has high ridership and is
used frequently on a daily basis. Additionally, the 4�6 (Dale) bus line also
is a major bus route for the neighborhood. A comprehensive plan is necessary
in order to facilitate the current ridership and the sewer separation program.
I am requesting that proper notification be sent to neighborhood residents
regarding any changes with the bus routing. This notification could be developed
by the Public Works Department, MTC, or the Public Works consultants.
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Memo to Don Nygaard
Re: Dale/Hoyt Separated Sewer Area
January 5, 1987
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For your information, the ��12 (Arlington) bus turns off Hoyt onto Grotto north,
east on Iowa, south on Dale, east on Arlington to Rice. The Dale Street bus
(4�6) runs north and south on Dale Street.
8. As we noted together, there are no alleys for Iowa or Hoyt from Dale Street to
Alamada. Since both are due for sewer construction work and/or street paving,
it is mandatory that ingress/egress needs are maintained open at all times.
9. As in the Maryland/Galtier area, there are numerous handicapped and special
needs in the area. As those come to light, the same consideration given in
the Maryland/Galtier area would be greatly appreciated. Ambulance service
and paramedic service must be able to reach any and all. It would be helpful
to have residents notify Public Works of their special needs in any official
publication; this notification could be done by the consultants.
10. There has been a request that stop signs need to be placed as part of the
separated sewer area on the alleys that run north/south, paralleling Dale,
between Hoyt, Iowa, California, Larpenteur. It is being used basically as a ,
thoroughfare rather than getting on Dale Street. Please contact our office
for further details, but those stop signs are increasingly important for the
protection of the children of the neighborhood; the Tom Thumb, located on �
Larpenteur and Dale, is accessed by said alleyways.
11. It has been noted at a couple of the District 6 Planning Council meetings that
the Sheehy Construction area on Larpenteur has negatiVely impacted the bluff
area. We would like to see complete bluff reconstruction as part of the j
separated sewer cleanup area (Idaho, Cumberland, Arundel, Western area) .
12. At the meeting at Maternity of Mary, and i_n subsequent conversations, the
following streets would like to be added if they are not a part of 2ny o.�her
drainage areas. It would be just a matter of completing a block or two to
hit natural boundary line streets:
Nebraska: Alameda to Grotto.
Hoyt: Alameda to Grotto.
Iowa: Alameda to Grotto.
California: St. Albans to Grotto.
Alameda: Hoyt to California.
Danforth: Wheelock to Cottage.
Additional streets that have shown some interest but have not been noticed
properly and would need an additional two weeks for proper notice by the
Finance Department are the following:
Kent: Wheelock to Cottage.
Schletti: Wheelock to Cottage.
Mackubin: Wheelock to Cottage.
Cohansey: Wheelock to Nebraska.
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Memo to Don Nygaard
Re: Dale/Hoyt Separated Sewer Area
January 5, 1987
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Arundel: Wheelock to Hoyt.
Cumberland: Arlington to Nebraska.
Western: Arlington to Nebraska.
Nebraska: Mackubin to Wheelock.
As we noted together, the Arundel/Nebraska area includes the new housing
development that was constructed on the old Arlington school site. The
sidewalks are done, the trees are up. It is amazing that the streets were not
done at that time.
13. It should be noted that there are several apartment complexes on Larpenteur,
between Mackubin and Marion. Special consideration should be given, and
specifications made, in order to accommodate the high density parking and
ingress/egress needs.
14. Regarding Kent Street (from Nebraska to Arlington) , the neighbors have
expressed a concern about the street grade. (You may want to have your staff
contact Mr. Reno Rossini, 1461 Kent Street, for the spe�ific neighborhood
concerns.)
Again, we appreciate you accompaning us on a visit to the Dale/Hoyt area. I am
pleased you found it to be as lovely an area as it is. I hope that, as you have
stated, we will learn from our first year of the separated sewers, and have an
alternate plan so that all strengths are matched and keep going in the same
direction at the same time. As we told you, the response in this area has been
favorable. As you noted in our tour, this neighborhood has a strong housing base
and a strong community pride. I am confident that the comprehensive combined
sewer separation and street paving program would enhance the neighborhood quality
of life. With this effort, the Dale/Hoyt area will remain strong into the 21st
century.
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_____ OILED STREETS TO BE PAYED IN '87' 3.7 HILES
OILED STREETS -- PAYIN6 DEIAYED 0. 1 MILES
■��.� SEWER CONSTRUCTION
ON OILED STREETS 1.2 MILES
ON 'NON-01LED' STREETS 1.7 MILES
i/6/87
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CITY OF SAIITT PAUL J niceNRettman��
�ui�Iiio � Joha DrewaAli
OFFIC� OF THE CITY COIINCIL � �
� Date: January 7, 1987
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To: Saint Paul City Council �
From: Committee on Public Works
Chris Nicosia, Chair
The Public Works Committee at its meeting of January 7, 1987 took the
followinq action:
1 .Hear i n.g_Date
1-8-87 FINAL OR�ER: Improving OTI5 AVENUE from Eustis to Pelham
B)vd. with an ornarnental street liqhting system, grading
and pavinq, constructinq concrete curb and gutters, catch
basins, concrete driveway aprons, reconstructing sanitary
sewer, constructinq sanitary, storm and water connections,
if requested by property owners and an area storm sewer
system bounded by Eustis Street on the west; on the north
by 135 feet MOL southwest of Desnoyer Ave; Pelham Blvd.
and 530 feet MOL south of Beverly Ave; on the east 622
feet MOL east of Pelham Blvd. , on the south 755 feet MOL
north of Marshall Ave, Round Lane. along Mississippi River
Blvd. 135 feet MOL) .
Recommended approvat .
2. 1-13-87 FiW�4� OROER: DA�E/H(��'� STREE� paving and lighting
pro,}�ct, area storm sewer pro,ject (bounded by Larpenteur
` , on the north, Arlington between Grotto and St. Albans,
�� Ccattaqe between St. Albans and Dale and Wheelock Parkway
/1: mare-or-less on the south and east and Grotto more-or-
R�' � less on the west) . Also constructing sanitary, storm and
0 water +eo�thections if requested by property owners. (Amended
order to foltow for street paving and lighting projet} .
Recommended appt�o+��l, Wt°� �mendmeats.
3. l-13-87 FINAL ORDER: Decidinq the operating costs for the above
stan�9r�i �tr�et 1 fahtir�� �v�t�rr�� f��t� t�-�r m��r��tt�� ��f Jar�����-v
� thru December, 1987:
A. Ford-Cleveland Area
B. Selby-Western Area
C. Lowertown Area
D. Grand-Dale Victoria Area
E. N. Wabasha Area {July thru December, 1987}
F. Grand Avenue West Area, and
G. Grand Avenue East Area.
Recommended approval .
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Iri the Matter of consEructit� the p�{�;y • ,. ` �- .:;
Ebounded by Larpe�teur Avenue on �:Stort7p�'.Sq�y� �;,�,
�►?��tl��n:
Albans.Cottage betwee��:A3b�as q�d�e�yod.� ����'���`�"�`°
an the sot�th aad east,and Grdtto-mfl�.o�.�, �`��°�'�� -
T'he Conncil oi the Citp,oi Saiat;�'sitl hg �����Y�RB Ward 5:. � `
upon the above impruvement, and �a �����'�"�'�"
resolves: ���� seid�s+�l;�
; 1. That the said rel�aort an@ tl�e=�ame'is " � . r iJ ;
alternatives,and that the�timated c`o� � $�� ��''�'
: assessments�183,700; State and Federal�G���'�����'
� Storm Sewer Service Charge$189,300. �".090 e� �-,
2. That a Public hearing be had o� saiB impaao�`emerit dA tYie
J��ry, 1987 at 1 . '
- a an ou ouse uildin � �in th�y,Coumcfl Charh�ers bf i� .
3• �at n,otice of said public he� ���t������� f
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inanner provided by the Charter�ta�'t 8��e� to tlie;pers� �n t�e .
the nature of th�im ��;�ime an�i�Tsc,���g�
grovemest and tbe totaI,cost}.herecf a�estit�aEed. : ,
File No. 18441
Adopted by tfie Counci'I Naven��eT I8,�1�6. ;`'a
ApPxoved Noveinber 29;19e6: -- .- ' -'+,
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. g, Other Business. RESOLUTION: authorizing agreement between
the City �of St. Paul and Minnesota Department of
Transportation for construction, operation and maintenance
of traffic siqnal at intersection of Snelling Ave.
(T.H.SI ) and Midway Pkwy. - Commonwealth Avenue.
Recommended approval .
lU. RESOLUTION: approvinq plans, special provisions and
specifications for the improvement of Snelling Avenue,
Trunk Nwy. 125, renumbered as Trunk Hwy. 51 , from Como
Avenue to No. Corp. limits.
Recommended approval .
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