89-804 WHITE - CITV CLERK COUIICII
PINK - FINANCE GITY OF S INT PAUL �J—�d��J'C
CA4JARV - DEPARTMEN7
BI.UE -�.{NAVOR . Flle NO.
. ounci esolution ���,
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Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
BE IT RESOLVED, That the o cil of the City of Saint Paul
hereby certifies and approves he action of the City of Saint Paul
Board of Appeals and Review pe t 'ning to the following listed
property and as shown by the E ce pted Minutes of said Board of
Appeals, dated February 14, 19 9 nd marked EXHIBIT A, and attached
hereto and made a part hereof y eference :
DATE OF BOARD
MINUTES CASE NO: PR P TY APPEALED APPELLANT
02 � 14 � 89 02-89-H 14 6 an Buren Ave. Laura M. Lundberg
Guardianship for
Ruth Bunch
BOARD ACTION: Granted a waiv r f the vacant building fees , with
the condition, t at the Health Department do an
inspection of h house and remove the Placard.
PROPERTY DESCRIPTION: Sy d' cate No. 5 Addition
Lo 0 Blk 5
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02 � 14 � 89 10-89-H 39 afond Ave. Gregory T. Ryan
BOARD ACTION: Granted a waiv r of the vacant building fees , with
the condition h t all requirements are met.
PROPERTY DESCRIPTION: Sm' t s Subdivision of Blks
2 and 8
Lo 8 Blk 8
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COUNCIL MEMBERS Requested by Department of:
Yeas Nays
Dimond
c.o�g in Favor
coswitz
Rettman B
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Sonnen
Wilson
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Adopted by Council: Date �� c/
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Approved by Mavor: Date Approv d May or miss' n to Counc'
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PUBLt�D ���I,�Y 2 ` 19
WHITE - C�TV CLERK
PINK - FINANCE COUACIl
CIiNARY - DEPARTMENT G I TY O A I NT PAU L
BLUE -�MAVOR File NO. G
Counc l esolution
Presented By
Referred To Committee: Date
Out of Committee By Date
DATE OF BOARD
MINUTES CASE NO: P O ERTY APPEALED APPELLANT
� , �02 � 14 � 89 07-89-H 2 4 urora St. Guang-Jong Jason Wei
BOARD ACTION: Refund the fi i fee of $10.00
PROPERTY DESCRIPTION: F or nce Addition to
S . aul
L t Blk 3
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02 4 � 89 14-8 F 4 6 he rd Rd. J n J. Kerwin
Nic let Restoration
BOARD ACT N: Granted an x en ion of t ' e until March , 1989 to
vacate the b ' ld ng.
PROPERTY DESCRI ION: R gi ration land rvey 441
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Dimond
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Gosw;tz
Rettman O
Sc6eibel A gai n s t BY
Sonnen
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ACTION REGUEBTED:
Resolution approving the actio s f the Board of Appeals & Review
RECO�AMENDATIONS:Mw'ow(N c►Reiect(R) COUNGL M EE/RESEARCFI REPORT
_PLANNINO COMM18810N _GVIL SERVICE COMMISSION ��� PHONE NO.
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SU�ORTS WHIC�H COUNpL 08JECTIVE7 �VIA�OR'S OF�ICE C�
INITIATINQ PROBLEM,188UE,OPPORTUNITY(Who,What,Whsn,Whsro,Wh»:
Approving the action of the Board of Appeals & Review of the meeting of
February 11, 1989 . 2 waiver f uilding fee
1 refund he filing .fee
1 extensi n f time
ADVANTAQE8 IF APPROVED:
Waivers, Extensions and refunds gr n ed to the property owner by the
Board will be ratified.
asnov,wr�s iF nP�+oveo:
None
DISADVANTAOES IF NOT APPROVED:
The action taken by the Board will e eturned to the Board by City Council
for further action, Council Research Center.
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TOTAL AMOUNT OF TRANSACTION = N�A T/REVENUE BUDQETED(GRCLE ONE) YES X NO
FUNDINO SOURCE N A A VITY NUMOER 3 3 2 6 3
FlNANCIAL INFORMA710N:(EXPWI�
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MEMBERS PRE��NT: Kon �_ assman. �hairman
r�aro � � K: ��tson
Uaviu �c ult�
Wif � i m . Tilton
Kober L . Vierina
MEMBER� ABSENT: Sean � arev
OTHERS PRESENT: �an Ga t rland. Buildinq Code Ufficer
5teve a card, Fire Marshail
Pat Fi h, Uept. of Fire Prevention
Hope A r s . Dept. ot Fir� Pr-evention
Jim Pr ii , Clivision of Public Health
�an ua te land, Citv Architect
Uick: A ey, Housinq & Building Code
-lhomas be ch , PEu
�awren � oderholm. PtG
�a CJOn hu Bev Ryan
Joel W xm n Alfiredo Cavetano
Rick i Patrick �uiiivan
�or�n J . K rw i n Esettv Moran
Kellie a ak Ms . Giibert
Richard T avis Mr. Brannan
5usan M r chalk D�vid Oison
Vre� O' rien
S7AFF : Jose�ni e . 13onaiovanni
Chairman Glassman cailed th meeting to order at 1 :30 p.m.
February 14, 1989. He wel om d the appellants and exp {ained the
procedures , stating that ha the board does is, recommends
action to the City Councii .
1 . Approval of the minutes o he January 1Q, 1989 meeting as
submitted in writina.
Motion made by David Sc ultz to approve the minutes of the
January 10, 19t39 as submi t in writing. Seconded by Harold
Knutson. MOTION CARRIED NA IMOUSLY.
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C.hairman Gi�ssman. rererred ta a ietter received trom
Councilmemeber Scheibel . thankina the Board for the request of
maybe chanying the name of tne Board fr-om "Board of Appeals &
Review" to "Code EnforcemEnts Appe� i5 Board. " �r� is wiii be sent to a
commifitee for review. AftPr that . C�uncilmember �cheibef wiii
-„�t �" r=,, tr,�? 1-;�7,�t"G� .
2 . CASE HEARINGS:
CASE NO: PROPERTY APPEALED APPELLANT
02-89-H 143� VanBuren Ave. Laura M. Lundberg
(Vacant Bldg? Vuardianship for
Ruth E . Bunch
APPEARANCE : Ed Donohue
SUBJECT: Appellant is requesting a waiver of the vacant building
fee of $ 100. U0, as per letter dated January 1 , 1989, because of
financial hardship.
PROCEEDINGS: Ed Donohue, representing Laura Lundberg. The owner
of the house is an elderly woman. wh� had a stroke and is in a
nursin� home. Ernest money has been put down on the home and
there is a g�od possik� ility that t1-�e house could b� sold in 3U
days .
E�i Donohue, stated that at the time Ms. Bunch had the stroke and
had to leave the house, it ha� to be placarded as "Not Fit for
Human Habitation" . There had to be extensive clean-up as Ms.
Bunch saved everythina and the place was a mess .
Jim Prill . from Department of Public Health stated that the place
is not boarded.
BOARD ACTION: Motion made by David Schultz to waive the fee if,
the place is inspected by the Heaith Department and the Placard
is lifted. Seconded by Bill Tilton. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
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03-89-H 398 Banfil St. Lucille E. Widing
(Vacant bldg)
APPEARANCE: Greg O'Brien
SUBJECT: Appellant is requesting a waiver of the vacant building
fee, because of financial hardship.
Greg O'Brien Co-owner, bought the house in April of 1988, stated
that he has been working on the house. Building has a new roof,
new wiring, and new furnace. Work has stopped since the building
has been red tagged. Appellant has spent about $12,000. 00 on the
house.
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�Y'P �OU1- 1-cn�,,!; rement� tr�a . he OW!lE'1- : S rc�7U ! ]-t� tO c�0 Uf1G1Pt' �t"??
nt-;3 i flc�'"!C° . W�l ! Cr"� dl"'E': a i I tt C i"�t�5 c3T'� i_�d ? +y . t'�K.? ��,lt � �E'T'fT11 t. .
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..� 1 fll h�i- ! � i stated Tnat i n n i C�5? Ltl2i-@ 1 S ar,ott�er factor . WC? ! `.f;
is . the re�air of tne buiidi a was not com�ieted bv Februarv iU .
A Cc�uncil nearina is sche ul d, considerina cJemolition. This � s �
separate issue from the f _es The buildinq neea=_ a iot more
work.
Biii iilton referred to a o e from Ms . Widin�a. which statecJ.
that prPSSUre has to be pu n Mr. O'Brien. A letter from the
�ort Road/West Street Fede a ian. which stated that " if the owner
is unable to afford th e or rehab work, an appropriate
de�osition of the house ia t be throuah the citv's Seiective
Clearance proqram. "
BOARD ACTION : Motion rnade y ili rilton to deny the request t=or
a wa i vei� of t!-�e vacar�t bu + i ci i g fees . �econdzd by Dav i d Schu 1 tz.
MOTIOiv CA�RIEU UNANIMOUSLY .
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lU-�39-H 390 �afond A e. Greqorv T. Rvan
tVacant Bld . ?
APPEA�ANCt : Beverly Ryan
SUBJECT: Appellent is requ st 'na a waiver of the vacant building
fee, as he is in the proc ss of rehabbin� the house and cannot
afford the extra expenses.
PROCEEDINGS: Ms. Ryan and he on purchased the property and are
trying to reF�ab the home. N uilding permits have been taken,
because it needs mostiy pain i g.
Jim Prill , from Division of u lic Health stated that there are
two different buildings on t e roperty. each in different
condition. The one referred t , is to the front of the lot (39G
Lafond) . Some of the window h d to be replaced. A permit for
electrical work was taken ou . Mr. Ryan paid the fees from
September thru December . Fe s wing are for first quarter (Jan
thru March 1989 plus penalit� es of ($120. OU} .
Ms. Ryan stated that there i a ad in the paper� hoping to rent the
house by the first of March.
BUARC Ai�"fION: Motion made bv Robert V � erin�a to waive tne vacant
bu i !d i na fee fr-om �an tnru Marcn . ��r-�`J 1 t�E'C1 d i + re��u i remenr_.s are
met . Seconaed cv Davi � Schu� t�.
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1 i-89-H 3 yU i i� Lafiond Ave. G�-e�o��v �. P.van
tVacant Bldg)
APPEARANCE : Beveriv kvan
5U8JECr: Appellant is reauesting a waiver of t'r�e vacant buiiding
fee, as he is in the pr�cess of rehabbing tr�c house and cannat
afrord the extra exr�enses.
PROCEEuINGS : The r�ouse to the rear of the iot { 390 1 /Z �afondi
rieeds a buildina permit. �ecause it needs extensive wc�rk to
retiab. Tr,e appe i ! ant w�u l d I i ke to use t'r�e money for rehab,
ratner thar� paY the vacant building f=ee.
BOARE� ACIiUN : Motion made bv Bi1I Tiit.on to denv the wa�iier of
tt-�e r�u i i d i n�� fee. 5econ�ied bv kobert V i er i n�. Mt�►"I c�iv C;Al�R I ED
UNANIi�uUSLY .
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07-89-i-1 �44 Aurora Ave. Guanq-Jon� J�s�n Wei
iL units)
SUBJECi: Appeliant is requestina the filing t=ee be refunded, as
he has been working with the inspector and was able to resolve
the violations .
BOARD ACTION: Motion made by David Schultz to refund the riling
fee. Seconded by Harold Knutson. MOTION �ARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
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04-89-F 65 E. Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul YWCA
(64 units) Joei Waxman
APPEARANCE : Joel Waxman
SUBJEC7: Appellant is requesting a variance on the removal of
the bars on the windows of all the rooms on floors 5th, 6th and
7th, because of the danger involved.
F�tOGEEDINU�: Mr. W��:m�n is r-r���r=.ti ��� t���t r_.f,� ���t�� r�err�i �� ���� �� I
rooms on the fifth, sixth & seventh floor , because of an accident
prior to having the bars installed in 1985. Mr . Waxman stated
that Mr. Joe McDonough an inspector from the City of St. Paul
Fire and Safety Services did concur with Mr. Waxman that the bar
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couid remain on the wind ws
Pat Fisn. firorn Fire Preve t on stated that Mr . Mc�7onouqh was the
oriqinal inspector for t e commercial part . and not tne
res i�ient i a 1 r�art of tt�e b i !d i ��. At the t i me of the acc i��ent ,
r i r : i-%r�;,�n i_ i r��r, � :`,�„���.ry. O f�l F_' F" i -1�_� ;t� i-�,=+r- = T r, h F. i n c;t� i i ��_t .
temporariiy. since then m r sleeping rooms have been addeci.
Pat Fish, also stated tha . -t the request of the Distrirt Chief.
in the area, who would be th responding, (Responsible Chief) for
the building. should a mergency occur. survey the building
to see what exists presen ly, at this point, the District Chief
from that area stated the Fi e Department hds na access to any oi=
the upper floors. Code a tu lly requires that one window in each
sleeping room be free of ar , probably referring to 96 rooms.
Pat Fish, stated that sh r quested the District Chief take
a look at the situation. e District Chief advised Ms . Fish that
in looking at the buildin , that the only windows that could be
iaddered, are the ones th t do not have a structure adjacent to
the building, which would be on the Kelloqg side. It was
suagested that two window n fiifth, sixth and seventh floors ,
southwest and soutneast c r ers be without bars , accessible to
Fire Uepartment.
BOARG AC:TION: Bill Tiiton m e the motion that the re�uest fo►- a
variance, pertaining to r mo ing the bars from slee�inq r�oms on
fifth. sixth and seventh fl ors be denied. Seconded by David
Schultz. Mc�TION CARRIED UN NTMOUSLY .
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Oti-89-F 168 Concord St Alfredo G. Cayetano
(2 1/Z units)
APPEARANCE : Alfredo Cayeta o
SUBJECT: Appellant is requ s ing a variance on existing ceiling
tiles. as per ietter dated a uary 4, 1989.
PROCEEDIN(iS: After much dis u sion, Steve Zaccard, Fire Marshall
suggested that the appellan rk with the Fire Department, then
maybe be able to come up wi h viable solution to the problem
regarding the ceiling.
BOARD ACTION: The Board gav t e Appellant a postponement of 30
days to try and work with th Fire Departrnent, to resolve the
problem of the ceiling tiles if not then return to the March
meeting.
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�J5-c3y-r 658 Davton Ave. riisrorit kenovations
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ANPEARA�v�t : K � ,:�k i ao
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dedc:lbo ! ts , ' as ��er � etter dai.:ed December t3 . 1 '�ti�s. .4ppe? i ant wou i p
iike to re� lace them as th�v become de*e�t + ve.
BUARU ACTION : Mution made by Ron Glassrnan to gra�t a variance on
the preser�t deadbolts , witt� the condit?on, that upon re�airing ar
ret�� iacing the deadbolts . that they be replaced with the one ir�ch.
Seconded bv David Schuitz. i�10TIUN CAhRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
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12-89-F 1544 Grand Ave. Patrick F . Sullivan
(5 units )
APPEARANCE : Patrick F . Suliivan
SUBJECT: Appei ! ant is appealing the Revocation of the
Certificate of Uccupancy.
PLEASE iVOTE : The Rev��cation of thz Certi *icate of OccuAancy is a
result of the tact that the appellant failed to comply with the
appiicable requirements in a reasonable amount of time without
appeal , as per � etter dated January 10, 1989 firom Firc
Prevention. The oriqinal orders were written Uecernber 198b.
PROCEEGINGS: Mr . Suilivan is the owr�er of the t,uildina at 1544
Grand. There is a Certificate af Uc�uGdncy c�n thz buil�in�,
Pat Fish. from Fire Prevention stated that the Certificate of
Occupancy was renewed March 6, 1987 for three �ears. What had
been good, with conditions , should have been corrected by
December 1987.
Mr. Sullivan said that the inspector never notified him that
there was to be an inspection. In January Mr. Sullivan received
a letter from Fire Prevention informing him that the Certificate
of Occupancy was revoked.
Pat Fish, from Fire Prevention stated that Mr. Sullivan did have
a problem with an inspector in 1987. At the request of Mr.
Sullivan, Ms. Fish met with Mr . Sullivan for an inspection. All
the corrections that the inspector did call were in line with
Fire Code at that time. Ms. Fish worked with Mr. Suilivan until
there was just a few outstanding corrections. Fire Prevention at
that time renewed the Certlfiicate wlth � tew vut�tandings
cc�r�rect 1 c�ns , th�t w?r�e �t� I 1 tr� ryc d��r►r, �tr-1 ��K�e�_t i r�r,� wrr~r
done in December 1988 and January 1989. At that time a notice
was sent to Mr. Sullivan, although, there seems to be some
probiem in Mr. Sullivan getting his maii . There was a citation
issued to Mr. Sullivan. which is still unresolved.
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'1s . �� � i bert and Ms . Nc, a . tenants i n r_ne bu i I d i na. as K.ect to
s�.�ea� tc� zhe b0�3?"C7. Tt'� .�! �resented a � � st or i t?ms }ha*� sr i i I
were n�.=,t com� ! E3tP_C.
;�ir , l� I �S'=�R�!l . 5�'-.3Ce?i! r.he�� tr a �Odf�!� _ -;i, � �� r��`,t r-i i � a ��n �h�a
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variance or extensions o Zime on corr�ections co be done. Mr� .
Giassman suanested that i a re-inspection r"rom tne � ire Departmer,= .
r"o��nd ali tne items. tha� we e not done oefore revocacion, ara in
fiact done. then Fire Pr ve tion probabiy would re-instate tne
certificate.
BOARD A(=,IiUN : Motion made bv Bill Tiiton to denv tr�e reauesc to
overrule the Revocation ot t e Certificate of Gccupancv.
Seconded bv David 5chultz.� OTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSL'Y.
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93-8�-H 30 E . 7th 5 . Worid Trade Centez-
and
37b Jackson St . Gaitier� Piaza
SU�JECi : ThiS case was be -or the boarci �n Gctober il . 1988.
an�l r�eq�.�est.e�a to b� pastpo ed l.a tne �e�r��ary meet i ng.
i�l-�e aQpe i 1 ant r equested a os panement *or 3li aays.
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i4-8y-F 436 5he��ard d Nicoliet REStaratior,
t 5 un i ts ) John ,� . Kerw i n
APPEARANCE : Jonn J . Kerwin
SUBJECT: Work required for a ety as ordered, has been completed.
City requested a Site F�ian n variance appiications in process
have been delayed primarily by City.
(Condemnation ] etter fr m ire Prevention dated January 26.
1989. Vacate date is eb uarv 25 . 1989. )
PROCEEDINGS: Mr. Kerwin s at d that he was before the board
October 11 , 1988. At tha t me Mr. Kerwin was to get permits .
and do some work on the pr e ty and continue with the Site
Plan review process. The wor s done. Ali new gas piping to ali
the furnaces. A second 60 m electrical service with wires run
to each furnace.
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Mr. 1;erwin - tne Site Plan w�s in �racess t.he lest time th�t Mr .
Kerwin was before the board. The reply to the Site Pian.
application arrived the same day lOctober 11 . 1988) . What the
city wanted was a Special Use Permit. Mr . Kerwin applied for a
Sr�ecial Use Permit on Decernber 9. 1988. At that time more plans
r�ei-E i CUUCSiC�.� t r' i dr"i i � i wt1 � Cti w�t-� :70t�e . . _ _ _ _
C.(le_-'rl 1 d��:-' I 1 CC.! tOT LIlC
Special Use Permit . According to the law, it is to go to the
Plannina Commission in 60 days . A reply was received in December
from Larry Soderholm. Finailv, I had a meeting with Larry ZangS
and a representative from the Mayors office on January 20, 19$9
to resolve certain items. Again, more plans were to be drawn
(Plan le) . These pians were completed on February 13 , 1989, so
that is were the process is at present. The Special Use Permit
application is in.
Mr. Kerwin - there is two points of reference, one - a meeting
requested by Jan Gasterland, the inspectors were around the
table i .e. mechanical , electrical , etc. and Mr. Gasterland had
not been involved before, and the fact came up that we were going
to do the work on the heatinq svstem and the electrical and then
get our plar►s together on the river front. One member at the
meeting made a statement (that sounds reasonable to me, get the
heating and upgrade electrical and if it takes a couPle ofi years
to get your plan together on the river front the building wili be
safe) I remember loaking at the gentleman and thinking, two
years! then my mind went to my other point of reference, and that
is - that I got involved in this projec:t five years ago.
Mr. Kerwin - The question is going to come up some where along
the road, about who is going to pay the water, sewer, etc. The
river front moneY that got released to the city, through the
Sewer Bond refunding. that carne through the 5tate Legislature. I
went to the State Legislature and made my case. We wanted to
redevelop this property. The author of that bill , that released
15 or 17 million dollars to the city of St. Paul had requested
that one-fourth of that amount be designated to this project.
Jim Scheibel has asked the Mayor to study the project. The Mayor
has since then come back with a moderately negative response.
Mr. Glassman - What negative response did you receive?
Mr. Kerwin - Well , the Mayor wrote a letter to Phylis Conn,
saying that (there is a lot of contention and some threaten
litigation with respect to this property and it is going to be
difficult to go ahead) . I woutd like my Special Use permit and
Site Plan reviewed.
Mr. Glassman - Why are you here, today?
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Mr. Kerwin - Because. aga 'n the Citv has come out to the property
without a phone call or a letter and placzd a "Condemnation
Notice" on the buildin . Without courtesv of anv contact.
Everytime that these noti es are �.� laced on the building. there is
a bia amount of disru��t. io .
5teve Zaccard, Fire Marsh ll - Over a year ago. Fire Prevention
was informed that this fo me f�ower plant was bEing used for
residential . The issue b fo e the board. is whether we had the
responsibility to again p st the building as "Unfit for Human
Habitation" . The action . Kerwin is referring to is not a new
Condemnation, it simply is r posting a Condemnation that was
posted in March 1988. At h t time, there was a hearing at which
the board granted an exten i n of tirne for some work that had tt�
be done. Then in August it a ain was posted with a
"Condemnation Notice" . Ano h r hearing was held in October 1988.
At that time the board aga n ranted an extension of time to do
some more work, with some on itions . Testimony can be provided
from our Building Offical , J n Gasterland, that the conditions
from the October meeting av not been done. As a result , we
simply again re-posted hi buiiding as "Unfit for Human
Habitation" because it oe not qualify for a Certificate of
Occupancy.
Mr. Glassman - Has he in f ct fixed the heating piant safely?
Mr . Zaccard - Since the Oct b r hearing, Yes.
Mr. Zaccard - The notice to m was that Mr. Kerwin had not
meet the conditions that th oard had established at the October
meeting, subject to the Lan se. We did serve Mr. Kerwin a
lawful notice to the addres , hat we had served him before.
Notice was served in March 98 , and August 1988 and again in
January 1989. for the same on emnation.
Mr. Schultz - I would like o sk a generai question? Can you
say to me today, that this ui ding meets all health, safety,
zoning. flood use, whatever co es? Is there any gaurantee, a 100%
certainity that he would ev r eceive approval of all the special
use and requirements that ar eing asked in the near future?
Larry Soderholm, from Planni g Division - In regard to zoning,
there is no guarantee, it is q ite doubtful that the proposal
that Mr. Kerwin has witl be p roved. Basically, we cannot allaw
residentail use of a buildin elow flood level . Industrial use
could continue, its a legal o -comforming use of a building. To
have it occupied residential y. even for Artist housing, it needs
to be either out of the floo plane, which 1s pos�tble, at best,
an alternative is to complet a dyke, which Mr. Kerwin says is
partially constructed eround th bu11d1ng, which-woul�i rb1 �� the
�►rc�perty out of the f l aod f i n e. Th i s wou l d change the F l ood
Plane.
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Mr. Schu 1 t� - Wc:u 1 d th�t have t�� be a�pr��ved by the G��r� �f
Fnaineers?
Mr . Soderholm Yes , Tnat. would have to have approvai of first ,
the Planning Commiss �on to do the filling ot tnE fi !ood fringe. ther�
i r Lt��aL werc cd�provet�, Lrien tr�c wor'k ��ou i � prv�eed drt2r Ct�e i'ev i ew
and approval ofi the UNR and the Corp of Engineers . If this is
completed and certified by the Corp, then the Federai Fmergency
Management Agency woul � approve it. Thc zoning ma�� w{aul�y
have to be changed to say, it is no longer in the flood fringe.
At this point, it could t,e used for Artist 5tudios, but it could
not be converted to apartments. Allow Artist Studios to operate
in Industrial zoning, where they are scupluring and paintinq. If
it were rezoned to residentiai then it could be converted to
regular apartments.
Mr . Schultz - I was the person who at the October meeting stated
that this project should not be allowed ta be continued. I
remain convinced of this. I did not think there was a
tikelihood that this project would ever get off the ground. The
last time we met , there were tenants here on your behalf.
At this point, my senses. for whoever is at fault, or whatever
intend, you may have had going into this pro.ject , I cannot in
conscious vote to continue this project. I do not see in the
near future this project ever receiving approval of being
converted into the kind of pro.ject that you want. I don't see
the existence of the tenants being in that property, which has
been used as a past excuse, as any excuse for the city to bank on
zoning or any type of health safety issues. Further, I don't see
your past action, or your past money, that you have put into the
pro_iect, any reason for our continuing to allow you to use a
project, that does not conform to existing code and probably never
will conform. My decision remains more firmer than last October.
The Board has been exceedingly reasonabte with you for the last
year on this project. I see no reason for this board to continue
to grant you any variances or extensions of time for this
project.
Mr. Kerwin - Mr. Soderholm has outlined how to get things done.
Mr. Glassman - Asked Mr. Kerwin, what really do you want?
Mr. Kerwin - We want to use the property. For some reason, 1
don't know what it is. This kind of building produces this kind
of emotional , tear it down, get rid of it or vacate it. We ran
into that almost from day one. We have met with the inspectors
and have done the work necessary for minuimum life safety. We are
following the process. We have not been allowed to get t� the
Planning Commission. We have been basicaily barred from getting
to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Schultz - What I am saying at this point is I don't care if
you continue the process. I just do not want tenants to be
living there. It does not meet Health safety codes in the full
sense.
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Mr. Kerwin - I have been e habbing buildings since 1968. I
started on Goodrich and Vic oria. There is alwavs a transition
from one occupancy to ano h r.
Mr . Knutson - The whole t i q stems from the fact that You put
�enan�s i n Li�i 5 ou i i d i ng. b� ror-e dny �� � ar� wa5 �u��fl i t.LCC�. Ti-�i rteen
plans were submitted. non w re approved. You are doing something
that you believe is ok, ut the city says no. I even went , so
far , as argue for you. t allow the tenants to remain if the
conditions were met. Thes w re only a temporary measure.
Larry Soderholm - We receive an application for Site Plan Review
back in August and sent M . erwin a letter about it and talked
with him on October 11 , 1 88 We explained what Mr. Kerwin had
to do. vne of the things Mr Kerwin had to do was to get
approval from the Plannin C mmission. Mr. Kerwin made
application to the Plannin ommission on December 9, 1988. On
C�ec.zmber l�, 19t3t3 we sent i a return 1 etter exp 1 a i n i ng that
his application was incomp e e. We itemized what additional
information would be neede nd that was January 2U, 1989. Today
in the mail we received a e appiication. One of the main
pieces that is stiil missi g, in this application is, engineering
studies , showing what has ee done on the levee, and if that
standard is up to the Corp of Engineers. Then we would know it
is reasonable to foliow th t line as a way of making the building
meet the zoning code. ha critical piece of information is
still missing from the a pl 'cation. We ask to have a cross
section of the building, so that we know where the floor level5
are in relation to the flo d evel . Mr. Kerwin said that he does
not want to have a new ra ings done on the project . The
drawings we have to the build ng seem to be the Historic cross
section of the building, I e ieve that this is dated 1925.
We have received a new applic tion, it does not have as good
information as we would lik o have.
Mr. Glassman - Let me ask uestions, He wants to continue
the project. How would you f el if we said. "Continue to work
on the project, but no one s llowed to live in the bufilding?"
Mr. Zaccard - This is exac ly what is being asked of this board
to consider. This building is Condemned, because it does not
qualify for a Certificate o O cupancy. Allow that Condemnation
to take force and effect, r su ting in the vacating of the
occupancy of that building. A lowing us to get approvais.
These approvals are done be r occupancy. The calibar of code
violations that occur there, t e occupancy of a building without
a Certificate of Occupancy. V rious contruction trades perform
in that building without the b nefit of any permits. We have
been working with Mr. Kerwin ince we discovered this, quite
by accident, over a year ago The Board has held out its hand
1 ong enough. I wou 1 d r�ape t e b�i�rc� w i 1 1 ����t�i n ti�i �
condemnation, and would allo s to enforce it and let Mr. Kerwin
have his remedies in court.
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. Mr . Glassman - During the Condemnation. Would Mr. Kerwin have
the right to work on the buiiding?
Mr . Zaccard - He has to start from the bottom up, which is, he
must get zoning approval before he qualifies for permits . There
7 �, � { ��l r-i� iy rl r K. i-hl�t ���I,..-..�..S -t-(� i��c' �_i�?r1�' .
Mr. Kerwin - I feel staff wants to shut us down. We think that
they talk to each othes- . We need tirne to get this to a legally
constituted board. I beg of you do not let the city bottie us
up.
Mr. Zaccard - We certainly welcome Mr. Kerwin to go to the
proper courts. We are not in the business to deny people
occupancy. We are in the business to approve occupancy.
Not one of us are a part and parcel of a conspiracy to deny Mr.
Kerwin the use of his property. It is our duty and roll to see
that it is used in conformance according to the code.
Jan Gasterland, Building Code Officer in the City - Let me echo
Steve' s remarks . We have met with Mr. Kerwin on numerous
occasions. We have gone the extra nine yards to help, in trying
to accommodate his needs in the way of construction. We are
continually put into a situation where we have to equate what is
going on in the buildinq, just as we do in any other building in
the city. We are aware as to what is going on in the building,
and we are a part of that liability. It is our professional
feeling that people should not be occuping that building. Based
on buildings that we have seen and our professional experience
that building is unsafe to occupy. It is, was and remains unsafe
to occupy. For the good of the people and the liability of the
city, those tenants should be out of that building until the work
is done and the approvals are granted.
Mr. Schultz - if the building is unoccupied, you of course are
willing to work with the owner?
Mr. Gasterland - Yes, that is correct.
Mr. Schultz - In order to have a Condemnation Placard removed,
making it fit for occupancy, there are certain processes
that have to followed. To your knowledge is the city willing
to help Mr. Kerwin!
Mr. Gasterland - Yes, that is correct.
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Mr. Tilton - When this w s efore the board a year ago, I got the
impression that Mr . Kerwi hought that the city had been
actively opposed to any d v lopment. Mr. Gasterland, you
distinctly gave me the im r ssion, that you were willing to work
with Mr. Kerwin. I want o hear if Mr. Kerwin disaarees with
tr�at. Mr . Kerwin do v u feel , that. Mr . (�ast�riand or other
people in the city have e n actively trying to prevent you from
making progress in gettin proval ?
Mr. Kerwin - I believe t at definitely is the case. On my
relationship and meeting ow at the city and we have had many
meetings. City staff has be n taking any possible route to
defeat the use of the buildi g.
Mr. Viering - Why are th y pposed to the project?
Mr. Kerwin- I really do n now. I guess its because anything
that has ever been planned, as never been build on the river.
Somethinq is wrong with th rocess.
Mr. Viering - It seems to e that any kind of development like
this, has a set of stages n must face. Hopefully, the bottom
line to all that is , that h building gets the Certificate of
Occupancy. What I don't un er tand is , that a person like you, who
has developed a number of uildings , and you are a professionai .
Why did you skip all th s eps, in going through all these
things, and then put peop e 'n the building, before you had the
Certificate of Occupancy?
Mr. Kerwin - Might I may s ggestion? The notice to vacate be
removed and stayed until t e lanning Commission has a chance to
review the 14th, 15th and 1 h plan and the City Council .
Mr. Viering - When will thi 11 happen?
Mr. Kerwin - I 'm not sure. One application last summer and one
application now.
Mr. Kerwin - The law on Con itional Use Permit is; within 60
days of the date of applica i for Conditional Use Permit. The
Planning Administrator shal s bmit the application together with
additional information to t e lanning Commission, it does not
say that they have to appro e 't. Mr. Chairman, they are going to
knit pick and find items fr m ow until eternity. It has got to
get to the Planning Commission and the City Council .
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Mr . iilton - Mv o�inio� is verv dif*erent ther� mv co? ieaque.
untortunate ! v. it comes *o tne �ame canciusio�. �ecause the
onlv issue, before this DOdrd is : car� people continue to iive
there? .4ii these feliows rrom the ciiv seem like noou auvs . �nv
Cdl'l�t t.Y?t� t-� I �r:^1 f1Q �omm' �5 ? O�I �P� d j 1 t.P ���! ! aW P ! dr! . reV i A�,y -
��fl�,? dr?��I"IJV� i l. . ..!J(1L f (I�_.1UC�-lt IJ�VI^I i dL'�'1"- d�.I�C�CVVd � ri lJf!1 r�le l.O?��' Vi
Enqineers . I �uess i fieel that some of the fauit iies wirh the
ci*v, and some of tt-�e fault lies with you , Mr . Kerwin. I 'm �oina
to vote against people living in tr�e building . because. that is
the issue before this board. When was the first pian submitted?
Mr . Kerwin - the first plan was submitted in 1y83 , we met with
F�ick Weiderhorn and PED. At that time, it was going to taKe 3
months, before approval , then it died. It turned into strong
opposition. At that time, we were toid to draw another plan,
which we did, that died also. Then we were told to form a
partnership with thz neighborhood. this we did, that died also.
It never did get to the F1anning Commision. We made application
to modify the flood way line. because there is a peninsula in
front of the h�uildir�4. that is part of the architectuai inter-face
with the river. We spend $ 10 , 00U . 00 with Th:DA to do a fiood way
studv of the r i ver . to st�ow that redraw i n�a t.he f 1 ood way 1 i ne
would be permissible. and that. was submitted to the city and
nothing happeneci. A year later , meanwhile the city renegeU on
it.s aQreCm�nt to bUy tne pro�erty. 81onq came an ltem befor� tFle
i�lanninq Commission and it was to redraw tt�e filood way line.
What thev r�ad done. was to come up with a proposai to rsdraw the
flood wav line, not around the peninsula. but squdshina it bac.k
aaainst our property. such that as a practical matter . we nave
iust about the only un-devel��pabie pro�erty. Un a for�r_y d��re
study we were excluded.
Mr. Suderholm - Speaking for the Plan�ing Givision, let me
comment, first, Mr . Kerwin has done plans and talked with city
staff about zhem. this does not mean he has gone for zoning
approval . He has talked to people in the development division to
try and set up a deal to see if we can get a pro.ject to work.
The first plan to be submitted for zoning review was submitted
last August, 1988. It was reviewed normally by the staff. This
took about a month. followed by a letter explainina what had ta
be done. So, the first application that was submitted to the
Pianning Commission was in December. 1988. We informed Mr.
Kerwin that it was incomplete and we wanted him to get the rest
of the information to the Planning Commission for their review.
As to what the Planning Commision did with the Fiood Way
designation at the time of the Zoning study, about where the
designation should go thru Mr. Kerwin's property. At the time it
was started there was 43% of his property, that was bullr�tat�le
At the end of the study 83% of his property was buildable. The
P 1 ann i ng Comm i s i an d��ub 1 zci ti-�e amc�unt at 1 enc�.
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Mr. Glassman - John, maybe th best thing for this board to do is
not to hear the appeal . L t ou go to District Court with this
issue.
Mr. Kerwin - My Attorney e ch nged letters with the Mayor about
two years ago. 7he Summon a d Compiaint is on the Attorney' s
desk getting ready for ser ic . I just thought, there really has
to be a better way to see i thing out over years and years.
What I am doing is exhausti g the administrative remedies, if
they are exhausted today, t e I will end up in Court. I do
think, however, before that t me, it is very important that we be
able to go before the Plannin Commission with a positive
proposal for the building.
Mr. Gtassman - The City is o stopping you from doing that, its
just that you had tenants i he building long enough.
BOARD ACTION: Motion made y David Schultz to deny the request
for lifting of the Placard n the Condemnation and amend the
vacate date to be March 31 , 1 9. Seconded by Harold Knutson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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There being no further busi es meeting adjourned 3 :30 p.m.
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