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1 WHEREAS, the Saint Paul City Council in File #98-83 adopted February 4, 1998 created a Legislative
2 Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs; and
4 WHEREAS, the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs submitted recommendations to the City
5 Council for changes in policies governing advertising signs in Saint Paul; and
6 WHEREAS, the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs were
7 presented to the Saint Paul City Council on October 7, 1998; now, therefore, be it
8 RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul City Council accepts the report of the Legislative Advisory Committee on
9 Advertising Signs; and be it
10 FURTHER RESOLVED, that the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising
11 Signs are hereby forwarded to the Saint Paul Planning Commission for consideration; and be it
12 FINALLY RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul City Council requests that the Planning Commission consider
13 the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs and recommend to the
14 City Council such changes in the Saint Paul Legislative Code as it deems appropriate.
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Requesting that the Planning Co�ission consider the recommendations of the Legislative
Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs and recommend�to the City Council such changes
in the Saint Paul Legislative Code as it deems necessary.
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Hon. Chrts Colemen
St. Peu1 C,yty Ccuncil
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St. Paul. Minnasota 55102
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Re: Legislativa Tesk For�e Report — Ou[door Advertising Signs
Deer Counollmen Coleman:
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Onr firm ropresents DeLjte Outdoor Advertising Company regarding ragutatory matters in tha City of
St. Paul, Micu�esota. DeL{te cunently is an applicant for permits to constcuct two (2) advartisiag signe
wlthin tha City. I am wrlting to object to stataments mada by City staff ln the coursa of prasanting the
Legiela6ve Task Force Report on Outdoor Advertising Sigas at lest week's City Cpuncll mcedng.
City staff has etatad thst the recommendations in the Report, regatding tha conditions under which signs
maY oonfinue to be buiit in the City, are supported by the industry. That ie not true. The Task Force
adopted the recommendations made by the dominant sign company in St. Paul, filler Media Company.
Those recommendations ere not (and were not) supported by my ctient, or by severat other small eign
oompanies who ara seeking to compete against Eller w9thin the City. Moreover, the Task Force Raport,
!f it bacomes law in the City, wiil lock-in the status quo and crsate a monopoly for the dominant
company, due to the leglslativa action of the City.
DeLita, end the other companies that compete against Eller, put fonverd a competing plan which would
have moro positFvely effacted the removal of neighborhood signs, while preserving the ability of tha
emalter eign campanies, including AeLite, to compete !n the City (see attachad).
My client looks forward to participating in the public hearings regarding this important mstter. We
condnue to believa that the City's Sign Ordinance can ba modified to promote tha removal of signs from
reaidentlal neighborhoods, without denying ptoperty zights, or establishing a monopoly in favor of the
dom�nant sign compaqy.
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• Alt ilibga! dgos� if any, muet bo removed,
• Consttt�odon of algq tttuatutes vviq be e11ow only !n the
lotlowJng oommerclal end induabrW yoned op�othu�lty
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• 1-94 &om the A+iindeepolia Clty LImita easG W Merlon
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• I-94 tkom the Lefbyotte grldge east to the Maplewood Clty
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• I-3SL� ti�om Crrove Street north to the Map2�wood City
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• U•S• Nighway S2 Coa[dor
• Steto Iilghwsy 2$0 Conidor
•. Stata Highway SI (Snelitag Avenue) fl�om $alby Stroot
north to the Falcon Helghte CIty Limite
• Statc Htghwqy S(West 9th Stcoet) ltom Sh�pe�d Road east
to I�eltogg Bouleverd '
• Unlvoraity Avenue ibm lilghway 280 east'to Rloe Street
Bxisttng slgn stcucturet may bo rcplaced In the bt�lbosrd
opponuhity dlatrtats, without a sigo oredit(s), at per �ho
exieting atgn orE{nance.
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reooa�huodon of exiedng 4I� ol�c�u� �u �� the defined
oppottunitY oo�rldpn.
• Outeide ofthe oppotteut(ty c��don, aefgh6orhood diatrlote
w'1q be proteoted i}om u�y � �� �velopment.
• 7'he `�uy Dcwn"pr��clon foc new st�u b r�telned whtoh
cnNoeA t�e romoval of nonoontbrmfn6 a�BRe !q the
nelgl�borhocd� end other d[�Wott out�lde of tha blliboard
oPPoi1'unity oo�rldors. .
The re(endon of the provJ�icn !a the ourront a l�n oidinanoe for �
the replaoement otextstln,� oo,��g 8�gna g�vea eeah
ltoensed tlBn compeny ia the C�ty the abjlity competo end
itay in bualnees. Thp proaenoe of thta provfato� atso protaota
the (,yty hom what othenvlse might be oonetdeted nurtud,�g
and encouraging t�a extatenoe of a knoivn monopoly.
My md et! iUega( slgns would have to 6e remqved fl�om tha
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Enclosed wjth thi� letter !a a proposel tbr ttruaturel refbrm of tha City of St. �aui'� advenistng slgn
ordintu►oe. 1'he propoee! rocognlzos thet tho baeto ottuoture of the exu8ng �tgn ordinanoe worke quite
we11. At the `p�e timo, the atgn industry reooga{zea tho City's dea(rs to galn moro oontrol over the
ptacament of aigns 1n sensitive uees of tho Clty. 1'6is propoeal wes developdd by and Is oupporied by
tho tbltowta� rlgn oompanles: _
• DeLtte Outdoor Adve�ttaing;
• , MlQweet Qutdoor Advertlaing;
• AQams Ou�dcorAdverttsing;
Piease dlaWbuta the enoloseQ propoaal to the membere of the Adv(sory Com�(ttco for use in tho
Comntittee'e dfsouae3on regarding options !or amenwpe�e
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Peter R6mes, Midwest Outdoox Advectleing
Dob Otdizigar, Adnms Outdoor Advartleing
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City of Saint Paul
City Council Investigation and Research Center
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
612 266-8589
INTER-DEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
DATE: October 1, 1998
TO: Counciimembers
FROM: Kenneth L. Smith, Policy Analyst ��
SUBJECT: Legisiative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs
Attached, please find committee materials for the discussion on advertising signs. If you have any
questions please feel free to call. Thank you.
cc. Gerry Strathman, Director
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Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs
Recommendations on
Billboards and Courtesy Benches
Billboard Recommendations
1. There will be no additional billboards pernvtted in the City of Saint Paul. New billboards
will be permitted only as replacements of existing billboazds. Their replacement will be at
a rate of 3 square feet of billboazd signage removed for each 1 square foot of new
replacement billboard signage allowed, counting each side of any billboard removed or
constructed separately.
Billboards that are removed should first come from the most residential sites on a city-
wide basis. Planning Districts on a district-by-district basis may create a list of high
prioriry signs for removal from each district. As an incentive to select and resnove signs
from the District Council's list, any sign on the list that is removed sha11 qualify for a
replacement biilboard at a rate of Z square foot of billboard sign removed for each 1
square £oot of replacement bi(Iboard.
2. Billboards shonld be pernutted along arterial streets (principal arterial and minor arterial
levels A& B as designated in the Comprehensive Plan) where there is continuous
commercial and industrial zoning of 1320 feet. Along freeways the commercial industrial
zoning should be measured a(ong one side of the roadway. Along surface-level arterial
streets, the commercial-industrial zoning should be along both sides. Table 1 in the
Zoning Code, which regulates size, spacing, and height of billboards should be revised to
have arteriai streets and size of zoning districts as its basis.
The required spacing from a church, school, and residential zoning district along the
roadway should be increased from 75 feet to 330 feet. The required spacing from a
parkway should be increased from 150 feet to 330 feet, The required spacing from a park
or recreation center shall be increased from 300 feet to 330 feet from the property line.
4. Advertising Device Control Segment No. 1 should be expanded to include both sides of
Shepherd and Warner Roads.
5. The inventory of billboard signs and their locations created by the Corrunittee should be
confirmed, maintained, and updated on a periodic basis by LIEP. Additional3y, LIEP
should establish standards for the maintenance and condition of billboards. Inspections
should be made annually to be sure the billboards within the City meet those standards.
Inspect all bill6oards annualiy. Issue permits each year for each biilboard (like state
requirement). Impose an annual pernut fee which fully covers all costs to the city of
administration and inspection of bi316oards.
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6. The Committee considered amortization of billboards in Saint Paul but feels that even if it
was legally possible, it is not warranted by the information provided to the Committee.
The issue of Advertising Signs be revisited five years atter any changes to the current law
are adopted by the City Council.
8. Impose a permanent moratorium on the erection of any new billboard (neighborhood or
highway) citywide.
9. Identify and remove all illegal billboards (neighborhood or highway). Illegal billboards
shall not be altered, nor variances given, so as to become legal.
10. Demand recovery of all money generated by such illegal billboards, with interest.
11. Enforce the ordinance.
Courtesy Bench Recommendations
12. Section 170.08(a) (signs on parkways restricted) of the Legislative Code of the City of
Saint Paul be amended such that the 150 foot restriction on advertising signs near parks
and parkways be removed. Furthermore, the committee advises that this recommended
change in the ordinance be placed before each District Council for their review.
13. The regulation of courtesy benches throughout the City be the responsibility of the City's
office ofLicense, Inspections and Environmental Protection (LIEP).
14. All Special Sign District and Historic Preservation plans be updated to address the issue of
courtesy bench advertising.
15. The Parks and Recreation Department review for approval or removal ail courtesy
benches and bus shelters in or on Saint Paul parks and parkways.
16. A courtesy bench may be rep]aced by a public bench or a non advertising bench.
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Dick Anfang
Brian Bates
Michael Cronin
Members of Legislative Advisory Committee on
Advertisin2 Si�ns
Saint Paui Building Trades
411 Main Street - Suite 206
Saint Paul, MN 55102
1985 Grand Avenue
Saint Paul, MN 55105
8809 West Bush Lake Road
Minneapolis, MN 55438
Litton S. Field Jr.
Litton S. Field & Company
P.O. Box 64016
Saint Paul, MN 55164
224-9445
690-9671
941-7487
941-2645 (fax)
- 699-0505 (hm)
227-8405 (wk)
Sheldon Johnson
2031 S. Howard Street 738-3143 (hm)
Saint Paul, MN 55119 298-5571 (wk)
Wendy Lane
License, Inspections, Environmental Protection
350 Saint Peter Street 266-9081
Lowry Professional Building, Room 300
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Larry Laumeyer
970 Raymond Avenue - Suite 103
Saint Paul, MN 55114 646-7921
Mark Moeller
R. F. Moeller Jewelers
2073 Ford Parkway
Saint Paul, MN SS ll 6 698-6321
Larry Soderholm
Planning and Economic Development 266-6575
25 West Fourth Street
City Hall Annex, 11�' Floor
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Tom Welna
The Covington Inn - Pier 1
Hamet Island, B-C
Saint Paul, MN 55107
Aeather Worthington
890 Cromwell Avenue
Saint Paul, MN 55114
298-0125 (hm)
292-1411 (wk)
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September 29, 1998
Gerry Strathman
Director
Council Investigation and Research Center
City of Saint Paul
15 West Keliogg Bivd.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Dear Mr. Strathman,
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We are writing to foilow up on your letter requesting comments from the Grand Avenue
Business Association about the special sign district and iYs influence on biliboards in
our area.
Our Association does not have the data you requested about the numbers of biliboards
before and after the Special Sign District legisiation. However, our Board of Directors
discussed the topic at our last Board meeting and concurred that the Special Sign
district for Grand Avenue has not had a noticeable impact on billboards on Grand
Avenue.
Thank you for including the Grand Avenue Business Association in your study of this
issue.
Sincerely,
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Char Mason
Executive Director
Grand Avenue Business Association
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O�GANIZATION
Mr. Gerry Strathman
Council Investigation and Research Center Directar
City Hall, Suite 310
15 W. Kellogg Blvd.
Saint Paul, MN 55102
September 23, 1998
Dear Mr. Strathman:
]27 West Winifred St. 7 r
St. Paul, MN 55107 ���
Phone (612) 293-1708 -
Fax (612) 293-0115
I am writing in response to your letter of September lst to Dave Engfer, President of WSCO. During
the Legislative Advisory Committee's work the West Side has experienced some changes in the
billboazd situarion. Although our response to you is late in coming, I hope you will be able to include it
in your report to the City Council. The following are changes we have seen since our special sign
district request was submitted:
1. Since our original inventory and count of 43 billboard faces, we have discovered an uncounted
sign. It is the same size as a commercial billboard, but looks handmade and it shorter than other
billboards. It is located on residential properry nearthe intersection of Livingston and Concord St. and
permanently advertises a siding company. With this addition, our billboard faces on the West Side total
44.
2. One billboard, on Eaton and Lafayette, was zehuilt after one of this summer's storms. This
reconstruction is in direct violation of our May 29th speciai sign district request which states that
billboards not be rebuilt if demolished. In addirion, we were norified by the Assistant City Attorney that
it was reconstructed without a permit and that the city was taking action against the company's
contractors 1lcense due to this and other alleged violations across the City. In response, WSCO wrote a
letter to Councilmember Chris Coleman asking him and LIEP to require the wmpany to remove the
billboard.
3. Incidentaily, due to the state tobacco lawsuit settlement, rivo super sized Marlboro billboard
posters have come down. Unfortunately they have been replaced by Miller beer posters, substituting a
cowboy theme with a macabre, sexually explicit, trashy theme.
We hope you �;rill find this information helpfui. If you have any questions regarding our responses,
please call me at 645-6887 during the day or 224-7308 at home.
Best V�'ishes,
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Environment Committee Chair
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ON A.DVET2TISING SIGNS
RESOLVED, that a legislative advisory committee is hereby established pursuant to
Section 3.01.8 of the Charter of the City of Saint Paul, subject to the limitations therein, to
undertake a study of issues surrounding the effectiveness of the provisions of Chapter 66 of the
Saint Paul Legislative Code which relate to advertising signs and any proposed amendments
ihereto, including chose contained in Council File No. 97-1447, and submit a report-thereon to
the City Council on or before August 1. 1998. The report of the committee shall contain the
following inventory of advertising signs, as well as consideration of, but not limited to, the
following issues:
(1) the effectiveness of Special Sign Districts;
(2) a complete inventory of all advertising signs in St. Paul, including location and
condition
(3) regulatory and enforcement considerations, such as annual permit fee and LIEP
staffing needs; and
(4) sign credit program — clazifications of existing credit program and consideration of
other models; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLV ED, that the membership of the committee sha11 consist of eleven
jl l� ten-{�$j members, appointed by the Council by resolution, and is intended to achieve a
balance of perspectives on these issues by including one (1) representative of the regulated
iadustry, one (i ) representative of organized labor (Building Trades), and one or more
representatives of neighborhood organizations and the business community; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the membership of such committee will be appointed as
follows:
(i) Each councilmember will recommend one member, having in mind the foregoing
Resolved clause;
(2) The Mayor may recommend a member, which recommendation the Council may in its
discretion accept; •
�) The Plannine Commission mav recommend a member which recommendation the
Council ma�in its discretion acceot:
(4) The LIEP Director is requested to appoint one LIEP staff inember with expertise in
regulation of advertising signs as a nonvoting member of the committee; and
(5) The Director of the Department of Planning and Economic Development is requested
to appoint one PED staff person with expertise in the regulation of advertising
signs as a nonvoting member of the committee; and, be it
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4 Research staff as necessary to complete its work; and, be it
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6 FINALLY RESOLVED, that upon comple6on of the committee report, the City Council
7 will transmit the committee's recommendarions for changes to the City's wning and sign
8 regulations relating to advertising signs, as well as the proposed auiendment thereto as contained
9 in Council File No. 97-1447, to the Saint Paul Planning Commission for their consideration and
10 study, for a report by such Pianning Commission back to the Council on or before November 1,
11 1998. It is the intent of the City Council that the recommendations of the committee established
12 herein shali be reviewed independently by the Planning Commission in addition to such other
13 studies and recommendations as the Commission may make regarding advertising signs.
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Committee Date
1 WHEREAS, the Saint Paul City Council in File #98-83 adopted February 4, 1998 created a Legislative
2 Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs; and
4 WHEREAS, the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs submitted recommendations to the City
5 Council for changes in policies governing advertising signs in Saint Paul; and
6 WHEREAS, the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs were
7 presented to the Saint Paul City Council on October 7, 1998; now, therefore, be it
8 RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul City Council accepts the report of the Legislative Advisory Committee on
9 Advertising Signs; and be it
10 FURTHER RESOLVED, that the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising
11 Signs are hereby forwarded to the Saint Paul Planning Commission for consideration; and be it
12 FINALLY RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul City Council requests that the Planning Commission consider
13 the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs and recommend to the
14 City Council such changes in the Saint Paul Legislative Code as it deems appropriate.
Requested by Department of:
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RESOLUTION
CITY OF SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
Green Sheet # 62285
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Requesting that the Planning Co�ission consider the recommendations of the Legislative
Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs and recommend�to the City Council such changes
in the Saint Paul Legislative Code as it deems necessary.
PLANNING COMMISSION
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INFORMAiION (IXPW�
LARKIN� HOAFMAN, DALY & LIND�REN, LTD.
A7TORNEYBATlAW
PE7ER J. COriE
Dllt. DIAL (Ot� �06121�
Octobor �4,1998
Hon. Chrts Colemen
St. Peu1 C,yty Ccuncil
IS W, Kellogg Boulevacd
St. Paul. Minnasota 55102
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1i00 7(EW(EB AY2NUE 80UTH
BLOOMINQTON, MINNEBOTA 66171.11M
TELEPI(ON � 1� {a6-DbOp
Fi1X e� eotl•
Re: Legislativa Tesk For�e Report — Ou[door Advertising Signs
Deer Counollmen Coleman:
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Onr firm ropresents DeLjte Outdoor Advertising Company regarding ragutatory matters in tha City of
St. Paul, Micu�esota. DeL{te cunently is an applicant for permits to constcuct two (2) advartisiag signe
wlthin tha City. I am wrlting to object to stataments mada by City staff ln the coursa of prasanting the
Legiela6ve Task Force Report on Outdoor Advertising Sigas at lest week's City Cpuncll mcedng.
City staff has etatad thst the recommendations in the Report, regatding tha conditions under which signs
maY oonfinue to be buiit in the City, are supported by the industry. That ie not true. The Task Force
adopted the recommendations made by the dominant sign company in St. Paul, filler Media Company.
Those recommendations ere not (and were not) supported by my ctient, or by severat other small eign
oompanies who ara seeking to compete against Eller w9thin the City. Moreover, the Task Force Raport,
!f it bacomes law in the City, wiil lock-in the status quo and crsate a monopoly for the dominant
company, due to the leglslativa action of the City.
DeLita, end the other companies that compete against Eller, put fonverd a competing plan which would
have moro positFvely effacted the removal of neighborhood signs, while preserving the ability of tha
emalter eign campanies, including AeLite, to compete !n the City (see attachad).
My client looks forward to participating in the public hearings regarding this important mstter. We
condnue to believa that the City's Sign Ordinance can ba modified to promote tha removal of signs from
reaidentlal neighborhoods, without denying ptoperty zights, or establishing a monopoly in favor of the
dom�nant sign compaqy.
S rety,
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LARKIN, HOFFMAN, DALY & LINDGR�N, Ltd.
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• Consttt�odon of algq tttuatutes vviq be e11ow only !n the
lotlowJng oommerclal end induabrW yoned op�othu�lty
corriddn:
• 1-94 &om the A+iindeepolia Clty LImita easG W Merlon
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• I-94 tkom the Lefbyotte grldge east to the Maplewood Clty
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• I-3SL� ti�om Crrove Street north to the Map2�wood City
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•. Stata Highway SI (Snelitag Avenue) fl�om $alby Stroot
north to the Falcon Helghte CIty Limite
• Statc Htghwqy S(West 9th Stcoet) ltom Sh�pe�d Road east
to I�eltogg Bouleverd '
• Unlvoraity Avenue ibm lilghway 280 east'to Rloe Street
Bxisttng slgn stcucturet may bo rcplaced In the bt�lbosrd
opponuhity dlatrtats, without a sigo oredit(s), at per �ho
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oppottunitY oo�rldpn.
• Outeide ofthe oppotteut(ty c��don, aefgh6orhood diatrlote
w'1q be proteoted i}om u�y � �� �velopment.
• 7'he `�uy Dcwn"pr��clon foc new st�u b r�telned whtoh
cnNoeA t�e romoval of nonoontbrmfn6 a�BRe !q the
nelgl�borhocd� end other d[�Wott out�lde of tha blliboard
oPPoi1'unity oo�rldors. .
The re(endon of the provJ�icn !a the ourront a l�n oidinanoe for �
the replaoement otextstln,� oo,��g 8�gna g�vea eeah
ltoensed tlBn compeny ia the C�ty the abjlity competo end
itay in bualnees. Thp proaenoe of thta provfato� atso protaota
the (,yty hom what othenvlse might be oonetdeted nurtud,�g
and encouraging t�a extatenoe of a knoivn monopoly.
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Enclosed wjth thi� letter !a a proposel tbr ttruaturel refbrm of tha City of St. �aui'� advenistng slgn
ordintu►oe. 1'he propoee! rocognlzos thet tho baeto ottuoture of the exu8ng �tgn ordinanoe worke quite
we11. At the `p�e timo, the atgn industry reooga{zea tho City's dea(rs to galn moro oontrol over the
ptacament of aigns 1n sensitive uees of tho Clty. 1'6is propoeal wes developdd by and Is oupporied by
tho tbltowta� rlgn oompanles: _
• DeLtte Outdoor Adve�ttaing;
• , MlQweet Qutdoor Advertlaing;
• AQams Ou�dcorAdverttsing;
Piease dlaWbuta the enoloseQ propoaal to the membere of the Adv(sory Com�(ttco for use in tho
Comntittee'e dfsouae3on regarding options !or amenwpe�e
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LARK[N, HOPFMAN� DALY 8c LINDORfiN, Ltd,
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Peter R6mes, Midwest Outdoox Advectleing
Dob Otdizigar, Adnms Outdoor Advartleing
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City of Saint Paul
City Council Investigation and Research Center
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
612 266-8589
INTER-DEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
DATE: October 1, 1998
TO: Counciimembers
FROM: Kenneth L. Smith, Policy Analyst ��
SUBJECT: Legisiative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs
Attached, please find committee materials for the discussion on advertising signs. If you have any
questions please feel free to call. Thank you.
cc. Gerry Strathman, Director
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Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs
Recommendations on
Billboards and Courtesy Benches
Billboard Recommendations
1. There will be no additional billboards pernvtted in the City of Saint Paul. New billboards
will be permitted only as replacements of existing billboazds. Their replacement will be at
a rate of 3 square feet of billboazd signage removed for each 1 square foot of new
replacement billboard signage allowed, counting each side of any billboard removed or
constructed separately.
Billboards that are removed should first come from the most residential sites on a city-
wide basis. Planning Districts on a district-by-district basis may create a list of high
prioriry signs for removal from each district. As an incentive to select and resnove signs
from the District Council's list, any sign on the list that is removed sha11 qualify for a
replacement biilboard at a rate of Z square foot of billboard sign removed for each 1
square £oot of replacement bi(Iboard.
2. Billboards shonld be pernutted along arterial streets (principal arterial and minor arterial
levels A& B as designated in the Comprehensive Plan) where there is continuous
commercial and industrial zoning of 1320 feet. Along freeways the commercial industrial
zoning should be measured a(ong one side of the roadway. Along surface-level arterial
streets, the commercial-industrial zoning should be along both sides. Table 1 in the
Zoning Code, which regulates size, spacing, and height of billboards should be revised to
have arteriai streets and size of zoning districts as its basis.
The required spacing from a church, school, and residential zoning district along the
roadway should be increased from 75 feet to 330 feet. The required spacing from a
parkway should be increased from 150 feet to 330 feet, The required spacing from a park
or recreation center shall be increased from 300 feet to 330 feet from the property line.
4. Advertising Device Control Segment No. 1 should be expanded to include both sides of
Shepherd and Warner Roads.
5. The inventory of billboard signs and their locations created by the Corrunittee should be
confirmed, maintained, and updated on a periodic basis by LIEP. Additional3y, LIEP
should establish standards for the maintenance and condition of billboards. Inspections
should be made annually to be sure the billboards within the City meet those standards.
Inspect all bill6oards annualiy. Issue permits each year for each biilboard (like state
requirement). Impose an annual pernut fee which fully covers all costs to the city of
administration and inspection of bi316oards.
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6. The Committee considered amortization of billboards in Saint Paul but feels that even if it
was legally possible, it is not warranted by the information provided to the Committee.
The issue of Advertising Signs be revisited five years atter any changes to the current law
are adopted by the City Council.
8. Impose a permanent moratorium on the erection of any new billboard (neighborhood or
highway) citywide.
9. Identify and remove all illegal billboards (neighborhood or highway). Illegal billboards
shall not be altered, nor variances given, so as to become legal.
10. Demand recovery of all money generated by such illegal billboards, with interest.
11. Enforce the ordinance.
Courtesy Bench Recommendations
12. Section 170.08(a) (signs on parkways restricted) of the Legislative Code of the City of
Saint Paul be amended such that the 150 foot restriction on advertising signs near parks
and parkways be removed. Furthermore, the committee advises that this recommended
change in the ordinance be placed before each District Council for their review.
13. The regulation of courtesy benches throughout the City be the responsibility of the City's
office ofLicense, Inspections and Environmental Protection (LIEP).
14. All Special Sign District and Historic Preservation plans be updated to address the issue of
courtesy bench advertising.
15. The Parks and Recreation Department review for approval or removal ail courtesy
benches and bus shelters in or on Saint Paul parks and parkways.
16. A courtesy bench may be rep]aced by a public bench or a non advertising bench.
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Dick Anfang
Brian Bates
Michael Cronin
Members of Legislative Advisory Committee on
Advertisin2 Si�ns
Saint Paui Building Trades
411 Main Street - Suite 206
Saint Paul, MN 55102
1985 Grand Avenue
Saint Paul, MN 55105
8809 West Bush Lake Road
Minneapolis, MN 55438
Litton S. Field Jr.
Litton S. Field & Company
P.O. Box 64016
Saint Paul, MN 55164
224-9445
690-9671
941-7487
941-2645 (fax)
- 699-0505 (hm)
227-8405 (wk)
Sheldon Johnson
2031 S. Howard Street 738-3143 (hm)
Saint Paul, MN 55119 298-5571 (wk)
Wendy Lane
License, Inspections, Environmental Protection
350 Saint Peter Street 266-9081
Lowry Professional Building, Room 300
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Larry Laumeyer
970 Raymond Avenue - Suite 103
Saint Paul, MN 55114 646-7921
Mark Moeller
R. F. Moeller Jewelers
2073 Ford Parkway
Saint Paul, MN SS ll 6 698-6321
Larry Soderholm
Planning and Economic Development 266-6575
25 West Fourth Street
City Hall Annex, 11�' Floor
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Tom Welna
The Covington Inn - Pier 1
Hamet Island, B-C
Saint Paul, MN 55107
Aeather Worthington
890 Cromwell Avenue
Saint Paul, MN 55114
298-0125 (hm)
292-1411 (wk)
292-7884
September 29, 1998
Gerry Strathman
Director
Council Investigation and Research Center
City of Saint Paul
15 West Keliogg Bivd.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Dear Mr. Strathman,
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We are writing to foilow up on your letter requesting comments from the Grand Avenue
Business Association about the special sign district and iYs influence on biliboards in
our area.
Our Association does not have the data you requested about the numbers of biliboards
before and after the Special Sign District legisiation. However, our Board of Directors
discussed the topic at our last Board meeting and concurred that the Special Sign
district for Grand Avenue has not had a noticeable impact on billboards on Grand
Avenue.
Thank you for including the Grand Avenue Business Association in your study of this
issue.
Sincerely,
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Char Mason
Executive Director
Grand Avenue Business Association
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. CITIZENS
O�GANIZATION
Mr. Gerry Strathman
Council Investigation and Research Center Directar
City Hall, Suite 310
15 W. Kellogg Blvd.
Saint Paul, MN 55102
September 23, 1998
Dear Mr. Strathman:
]27 West Winifred St. 7 r
St. Paul, MN 55107 ���
Phone (612) 293-1708 -
Fax (612) 293-0115
I am writing in response to your letter of September lst to Dave Engfer, President of WSCO. During
the Legislative Advisory Committee's work the West Side has experienced some changes in the
billboazd situarion. Although our response to you is late in coming, I hope you will be able to include it
in your report to the City Council. The following are changes we have seen since our special sign
district request was submitted:
1. Since our original inventory and count of 43 billboard faces, we have discovered an uncounted
sign. It is the same size as a commercial billboard, but looks handmade and it shorter than other
billboards. It is located on residential properry nearthe intersection of Livingston and Concord St. and
permanently advertises a siding company. With this addition, our billboard faces on the West Side total
44.
2. One billboard, on Eaton and Lafayette, was zehuilt after one of this summer's storms. This
reconstruction is in direct violation of our May 29th speciai sign district request which states that
billboards not be rebuilt if demolished. In addirion, we were norified by the Assistant City Attorney that
it was reconstructed without a permit and that the city was taking action against the company's
contractors 1lcense due to this and other alleged violations across the City. In response, WSCO wrote a
letter to Councilmember Chris Coleman asking him and LIEP to require the wmpany to remove the
billboard.
3. Incidentaily, due to the state tobacco lawsuit settlement, rivo super sized Marlboro billboard
posters have come down. Unfortunately they have been replaced by Miller beer posters, substituting a
cowboy theme with a macabre, sexually explicit, trashy theme.
We hope you �;rill find this information helpfui. If you have any questions regarding our responses,
please call me at 645-6887 during the day or 224-7308 at home.
Best V�'ishes,
� �� Sherii}'n Y��
Environment Committee Chair
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ON A.DVET2TISING SIGNS
RESOLVED, that a legislative advisory committee is hereby established pursuant to
Section 3.01.8 of the Charter of the City of Saint Paul, subject to the limitations therein, to
undertake a study of issues surrounding the effectiveness of the provisions of Chapter 66 of the
Saint Paul Legislative Code which relate to advertising signs and any proposed amendments
ihereto, including chose contained in Council File No. 97-1447, and submit a report-thereon to
the City Council on or before August 1. 1998. The report of the committee shall contain the
following inventory of advertising signs, as well as consideration of, but not limited to, the
following issues:
(1) the effectiveness of Special Sign Districts;
(2) a complete inventory of all advertising signs in St. Paul, including location and
condition
(3) regulatory and enforcement considerations, such as annual permit fee and LIEP
staffing needs; and
(4) sign credit program — clazifications of existing credit program and consideration of
other models; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLV ED, that the membership of the committee sha11 consist of eleven
jl l� ten-{�$j members, appointed by the Council by resolution, and is intended to achieve a
balance of perspectives on these issues by including one (1) representative of the regulated
iadustry, one (i ) representative of organized labor (Building Trades), and one or more
representatives of neighborhood organizations and the business community; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the membership of such committee will be appointed as
follows:
(i) Each councilmember will recommend one member, having in mind the foregoing
Resolved clause;
(2) The Mayor may recommend a member, which recommendation the Council may in its
discretion accept; •
�) The Plannine Commission mav recommend a member which recommendation the
Council ma�in its discretion acceot:
(4) The LIEP Director is requested to appoint one LIEP staff inember with expertise in
regulation of advertising signs as a nonvoting member of the committee; and
(5) The Director of the Department of Planning and Economic Development is requested
to appoint one PED staff person with expertise in the regulation of advertising
signs as a nonvoting member of the committee; and, be it
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4 Research staff as necessary to complete its work; and, be it
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7 will transmit the committee's recommendarions for changes to the City's wning and sign
8 regulations relating to advertising signs, as well as the proposed auiendment thereto as contained
9 in Council File No. 97-1447, to the Saint Paul Planning Commission for their consideration and
10 study, for a report by such Pianning Commission back to the Council on or before November 1,
11 1998. It is the intent of the City Council that the recommendations of the committee established
12 herein shali be reviewed independently by the Planning Commission in addition to such other
13 studies and recommendations as the Commission may make regarding advertising signs.
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1 WHEREAS, the Saint Paul City Council in File #98-83 adopted February 4, 1998 created a Legislative
2 Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs; and
4 WHEREAS, the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs submitted recommendations to the City
5 Council for changes in policies governing advertising signs in Saint Paul; and
6 WHEREAS, the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs were
7 presented to the Saint Paul City Council on October 7, 1998; now, therefore, be it
8 RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul City Council accepts the report of the Legislative Advisory Committee on
9 Advertising Signs; and be it
10 FURTHER RESOLVED, that the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising
11 Signs are hereby forwarded to the Saint Paul Planning Commission for consideration; and be it
12 FINALLY RESOLVED, that the Saint Paul City Council requests that the Planning Commission consider
13 the recommendations of the Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs and recommend to the
14 City Council such changes in the Saint Paul Legislative Code as it deems appropriate.
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St. Peu1 C,yty Ccuncil
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Re: Legislativa Tesk For�e Report — Ou[door Advertising Signs
Deer Counollmen Coleman:
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Onr firm ropresents DeLjte Outdoor Advertising Company regarding ragutatory matters in tha City of
St. Paul, Micu�esota. DeL{te cunently is an applicant for permits to constcuct two (2) advartisiag signe
wlthin tha City. I am wrlting to object to stataments mada by City staff ln the coursa of prasanting the
Legiela6ve Task Force Report on Outdoor Advertising Sigas at lest week's City Cpuncll mcedng.
City staff has etatad thst the recommendations in the Report, regatding tha conditions under which signs
maY oonfinue to be buiit in the City, are supported by the industry. That ie not true. The Task Force
adopted the recommendations made by the dominant sign company in St. Paul, filler Media Company.
Those recommendations ere not (and were not) supported by my ctient, or by severat other small eign
oompanies who ara seeking to compete against Eller w9thin the City. Moreover, the Task Force Raport,
!f it bacomes law in the City, wiil lock-in the status quo and crsate a monopoly for the dominant
company, due to the leglslativa action of the City.
DeLita, end the other companies that compete against Eller, put fonverd a competing plan which would
have moro positFvely effacted the removal of neighborhood signs, while preserving the ability of tha
emalter eign campanies, including AeLite, to compete !n the City (see attachad).
My client looks forward to participating in the public hearings regarding this important mstter. We
condnue to believa that the City's Sign Ordinance can ba modified to promote tha removal of signs from
reaidentlal neighborhoods, without denying ptoperty zights, or establishing a monopoly in favor of the
dom�nant sign compaqy.
S rety,
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LARKIN, HOFFMAN, DALY & LINDGR�N, Ltd.
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No more ifgne v,�ip ye oo��� � Ael��Zhood/raaldentiel
d�strio4a. .
• Alt ilibga! dgos� if any, muet bo removed,
• Consttt�odon of algq tttuatutes vviq be e11ow only !n the
lotlowJng oommerclal end induabrW yoned op�othu�lty
corriddn:
• 1-94 &om the A+iindeepolia Clty LImita easG W Merlon
Strbet
• I-94 tkom the Lefbyotte grldge east to the Maplewood Clty
Llnhits
• I-3SL� ti�om Crrove Street north to the Map2�wood City
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,, • T-35E flrom Weet 7th Stroot aouth tp the Migslseippl Rivor
• U•S• Nighway S2 Coa[dor
• Steto Iilghwsy 2$0 Conidor
•. Stata Highway SI (Snelitag Avenue) fl�om $alby Stroot
north to the Falcon Helghte CIty Limite
• Statc Htghwqy S(West 9th Stcoet) ltom Sh�pe�d Road east
to I�eltogg Bouleverd '
• Unlvoraity Avenue ibm lilghway 280 east'to Rloe Street
Bxisttng slgn stcucturet may bo rcplaced In the bt�lbosrd
opponuhity dlatrtats, without a sigo oredit(s), at per �ho
exieting atgn orE{nance.
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• T6e oont4uotton of tt�y aew al�n ttruotuce�, �nd tho
reooa�huodon of exiedng 4I� ol�c�u� �u �� the defined
oppottunitY oo�rldpn.
• Outeide ofthe oppotteut(ty c��don, aefgh6orhood diatrlote
w'1q be proteoted i}om u�y � �� �velopment.
• 7'he `�uy Dcwn"pr��clon foc new st�u b r�telned whtoh
cnNoeA t�e romoval of nonoontbrmfn6 a�BRe !q the
nelgl�borhocd� end other d[�Wott out�lde of tha blliboard
oPPoi1'unity oo�rldors. .
The re(endon of the provJ�icn !a the ourront a l�n oidinanoe for �
the replaoement otextstln,� oo,��g 8�gna g�vea eeah
ltoensed tlBn compeny ia the C�ty the abjlity competo end
itay in bualnees. Thp proaenoe of thta provfato� atso protaota
the (,yty hom what othenvlse might be oonetdeted nurtud,�g
and encouraging t�a extatenoe of a knoivn monopoly.
My md et! iUega( slgns would have to 6e remqved fl�om tha
City Limlts. ,
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Enclosed wjth thi� letter !a a proposel tbr ttruaturel refbrm of tha City of St. �aui'� advenistng slgn
ordintu►oe. 1'he propoee! rocognlzos thet tho baeto ottuoture of the exu8ng �tgn ordinanoe worke quite
we11. At the `p�e timo, the atgn industry reooga{zea tho City's dea(rs to galn moro oontrol over the
ptacament of aigns 1n sensitive uees of tho Clty. 1'6is propoeal wes developdd by and Is oupporied by
tho tbltowta� rlgn oompanles: _
• DeLtte Outdoor Adve�ttaing;
• , MlQweet Qutdoor Advertlaing;
• AQams Ou�dcorAdverttsing;
Piease dlaWbuta the enoloseQ propoaal to the membere of the Adv(sory Com�(ttco for use in tho
Comntittee'e dfsouae3on regarding options !or amenwpe�e
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Peter R6mes, Midwest Outdoox Advectleing
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City of Saint Paul
City Council Investigation and Research Center
Room 310 City Hall
Saint Paul, MN 55102
612 266-8589
INTER-DEPARTMENTAL MEMORANDUM
DATE: October 1, 1998
TO: Counciimembers
FROM: Kenneth L. Smith, Policy Analyst ��
SUBJECT: Legisiative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs
Attached, please find committee materials for the discussion on advertising signs. If you have any
questions please feel free to call. Thank you.
cc. Gerry Strathman, Director
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Legislative Advisory Committee on Advertising Signs
Recommendations on
Billboards and Courtesy Benches
Billboard Recommendations
1. There will be no additional billboards pernvtted in the City of Saint Paul. New billboards
will be permitted only as replacements of existing billboazds. Their replacement will be at
a rate of 3 square feet of billboazd signage removed for each 1 square foot of new
replacement billboard signage allowed, counting each side of any billboard removed or
constructed separately.
Billboards that are removed should first come from the most residential sites on a city-
wide basis. Planning Districts on a district-by-district basis may create a list of high
prioriry signs for removal from each district. As an incentive to select and resnove signs
from the District Council's list, any sign on the list that is removed sha11 qualify for a
replacement biilboard at a rate of Z square foot of billboard sign removed for each 1
square £oot of replacement bi(Iboard.
2. Billboards shonld be pernutted along arterial streets (principal arterial and minor arterial
levels A& B as designated in the Comprehensive Plan) where there is continuous
commercial and industrial zoning of 1320 feet. Along freeways the commercial industrial
zoning should be measured a(ong one side of the roadway. Along surface-level arterial
streets, the commercial-industrial zoning should be along both sides. Table 1 in the
Zoning Code, which regulates size, spacing, and height of billboards should be revised to
have arteriai streets and size of zoning districts as its basis.
The required spacing from a church, school, and residential zoning district along the
roadway should be increased from 75 feet to 330 feet. The required spacing from a
parkway should be increased from 150 feet to 330 feet, The required spacing from a park
or recreation center shall be increased from 300 feet to 330 feet from the property line.
4. Advertising Device Control Segment No. 1 should be expanded to include both sides of
Shepherd and Warner Roads.
5. The inventory of billboard signs and their locations created by the Corrunittee should be
confirmed, maintained, and updated on a periodic basis by LIEP. Additional3y, LIEP
should establish standards for the maintenance and condition of billboards. Inspections
should be made annually to be sure the billboards within the City meet those standards.
Inspect all bill6oards annualiy. Issue permits each year for each biilboard (like state
requirement). Impose an annual pernut fee which fully covers all costs to the city of
administration and inspection of bi316oards.
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6. The Committee considered amortization of billboards in Saint Paul but feels that even if it
was legally possible, it is not warranted by the information provided to the Committee.
The issue of Advertising Signs be revisited five years atter any changes to the current law
are adopted by the City Council.
8. Impose a permanent moratorium on the erection of any new billboard (neighborhood or
highway) citywide.
9. Identify and remove all illegal billboards (neighborhood or highway). Illegal billboards
shall not be altered, nor variances given, so as to become legal.
10. Demand recovery of all money generated by such illegal billboards, with interest.
11. Enforce the ordinance.
Courtesy Bench Recommendations
12. Section 170.08(a) (signs on parkways restricted) of the Legislative Code of the City of
Saint Paul be amended such that the 150 foot restriction on advertising signs near parks
and parkways be removed. Furthermore, the committee advises that this recommended
change in the ordinance be placed before each District Council for their review.
13. The regulation of courtesy benches throughout the City be the responsibility of the City's
office ofLicense, Inspections and Environmental Protection (LIEP).
14. All Special Sign District and Historic Preservation plans be updated to address the issue of
courtesy bench advertising.
15. The Parks and Recreation Department review for approval or removal ail courtesy
benches and bus shelters in or on Saint Paul parks and parkways.
16. A courtesy bench may be rep]aced by a public bench or a non advertising bench.
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Dick Anfang
Brian Bates
Michael Cronin
Members of Legislative Advisory Committee on
Advertisin2 Si�ns
Saint Paui Building Trades
411 Main Street - Suite 206
Saint Paul, MN 55102
1985 Grand Avenue
Saint Paul, MN 55105
8809 West Bush Lake Road
Minneapolis, MN 55438
Litton S. Field Jr.
Litton S. Field & Company
P.O. Box 64016
Saint Paul, MN 55164
224-9445
690-9671
941-7487
941-2645 (fax)
- 699-0505 (hm)
227-8405 (wk)
Sheldon Johnson
2031 S. Howard Street 738-3143 (hm)
Saint Paul, MN 55119 298-5571 (wk)
Wendy Lane
License, Inspections, Environmental Protection
350 Saint Peter Street 266-9081
Lowry Professional Building, Room 300
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Larry Laumeyer
970 Raymond Avenue - Suite 103
Saint Paul, MN 55114 646-7921
Mark Moeller
R. F. Moeller Jewelers
2073 Ford Parkway
Saint Paul, MN SS ll 6 698-6321
Larry Soderholm
Planning and Economic Development 266-6575
25 West Fourth Street
City Hall Annex, 11�' Floor
Saint Paul, MN 55102
Tom Welna
The Covington Inn - Pier 1
Hamet Island, B-C
Saint Paul, MN 55107
Aeather Worthington
890 Cromwell Avenue
Saint Paul, MN 55114
298-0125 (hm)
292-1411 (wk)
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September 29, 1998
Gerry Strathman
Director
Council Investigation and Research Center
City of Saint Paul
15 West Keliogg Bivd.
St. Paul, MN 55102
Dear Mr. Strathman,
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We are writing to foilow up on your letter requesting comments from the Grand Avenue
Business Association about the special sign district and iYs influence on biliboards in
our area.
Our Association does not have the data you requested about the numbers of biliboards
before and after the Special Sign District legisiation. However, our Board of Directors
discussed the topic at our last Board meeting and concurred that the Special Sign
district for Grand Avenue has not had a noticeable impact on billboards on Grand
Avenue.
Thank you for including the Grand Avenue Business Association in your study of this
issue.
Sincerely,
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Char Mason
Executive Director
Grand Avenue Business Association
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O�GANIZATION
Mr. Gerry Strathman
Council Investigation and Research Center Directar
City Hall, Suite 310
15 W. Kellogg Blvd.
Saint Paul, MN 55102
September 23, 1998
Dear Mr. Strathman:
]27 West Winifred St. 7 r
St. Paul, MN 55107 ���
Phone (612) 293-1708 -
Fax (612) 293-0115
I am writing in response to your letter of September lst to Dave Engfer, President of WSCO. During
the Legislative Advisory Committee's work the West Side has experienced some changes in the
billboazd situarion. Although our response to you is late in coming, I hope you will be able to include it
in your report to the City Council. The following are changes we have seen since our special sign
district request was submitted:
1. Since our original inventory and count of 43 billboard faces, we have discovered an uncounted
sign. It is the same size as a commercial billboard, but looks handmade and it shorter than other
billboards. It is located on residential properry nearthe intersection of Livingston and Concord St. and
permanently advertises a siding company. With this addition, our billboard faces on the West Side total
44.
2. One billboard, on Eaton and Lafayette, was zehuilt after one of this summer's storms. This
reconstruction is in direct violation of our May 29th speciai sign district request which states that
billboards not be rebuilt if demolished. In addirion, we were norified by the Assistant City Attorney that
it was reconstructed without a permit and that the city was taking action against the company's
contractors 1lcense due to this and other alleged violations across the City. In response, WSCO wrote a
letter to Councilmember Chris Coleman asking him and LIEP to require the wmpany to remove the
billboard.
3. Incidentaily, due to the state tobacco lawsuit settlement, rivo super sized Marlboro billboard
posters have come down. Unfortunately they have been replaced by Miller beer posters, substituting a
cowboy theme with a macabre, sexually explicit, trashy theme.
We hope you �;rill find this information helpfui. If you have any questions regarding our responses,
please call me at 645-6887 during the day or 224-7308 at home.
Best V�'ishes,
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Environment Committee Chair
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ON A.DVET2TISING SIGNS
RESOLVED, that a legislative advisory committee is hereby established pursuant to
Section 3.01.8 of the Charter of the City of Saint Paul, subject to the limitations therein, to
undertake a study of issues surrounding the effectiveness of the provisions of Chapter 66 of the
Saint Paul Legislative Code which relate to advertising signs and any proposed amendments
ihereto, including chose contained in Council File No. 97-1447, and submit a report-thereon to
the City Council on or before August 1. 1998. The report of the committee shall contain the
following inventory of advertising signs, as well as consideration of, but not limited to, the
following issues:
(1) the effectiveness of Special Sign Districts;
(2) a complete inventory of all advertising signs in St. Paul, including location and
condition
(3) regulatory and enforcement considerations, such as annual permit fee and LIEP
staffing needs; and
(4) sign credit program — clazifications of existing credit program and consideration of
other models; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLV ED, that the membership of the committee sha11 consist of eleven
jl l� ten-{�$j members, appointed by the Council by resolution, and is intended to achieve a
balance of perspectives on these issues by including one (1) representative of the regulated
iadustry, one (i ) representative of organized labor (Building Trades), and one or more
representatives of neighborhood organizations and the business community; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the membership of such committee will be appointed as
follows:
(i) Each councilmember will recommend one member, having in mind the foregoing
Resolved clause;
(2) The Mayor may recommend a member, which recommendation the Council may in its
discretion accept; •
�) The Plannine Commission mav recommend a member which recommendation the
Council ma�in its discretion acceot:
(4) The LIEP Director is requested to appoint one LIEP staff inember with expertise in
regulation of advertising signs as a nonvoting member of the committee; and
(5) The Director of the Department of Planning and Economic Development is requested
to appoint one PED staff person with expertise in the regulation of advertising
signs as a nonvoting member of the committee; and, be it
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4 Research staff as necessary to complete its work; and, be it
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7 will transmit the committee's recommendarions for changes to the City's wning and sign
8 regulations relating to advertising signs, as well as the proposed auiendment thereto as contained
9 in Council File No. 97-1447, to the Saint Paul Planning Commission for their consideration and
10 study, for a report by such Pianning Commission back to the Council on or before November 1,
11 1998. It is the intent of the City Council that the recommendations of the committee established
12 herein shali be reviewed independently by the Planning Commission in addition to such other
13 studies and recommendations as the Commission may make regarding advertising signs.
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